THE PERFECT MID HANDICAP WEDGE - CLEVELAND CBX2 WEDGE REVIEW
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- Опубликовано: 14 фев 2021
- CLEVELAND CBX 2 WEDGE REVIEW
In this video I will be reviewing the Cleveland CBX 2 wedges.
Over the years Cleveland have made some fantastic wedges which many players of all abilities have put their trust into.
We have been given access to review the new wedges by Cleveland and we will be setting up a challenge between myself ( Dan Hendriksen PGA Pro) Lester Barnes (Scratch Handicap) & Lee Whittaker (13 Handicap) .
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I love these wedges. Honestly best purchase for my golf bag I've ever made
Mr Bernie is quality, his dry humour and what he gives to this channel is superb.
I believe you are underselling the CBX2. The majority of average golfers have cavity back irons - therefore it makes sense to have cavity back wedges with some "forgiveness"
Always enjoy your guys thought on new products. Will def give them a swing
I’ve had these for three years now they’re brilliant 👍
Love my original cbx wedges and love them great vid boyz
Great Vid guys- watched this after seeing morning show- love Lester and the comments- better being honest and his face didn't lie 😁
Good to see Lester's enthusiasm, #getmeoutofhere
Love seeing this side of Lester and even funnier listening to Dan trying to get Lester to be more positive and say the right things 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 100% funny.
Come on lads. Even if you dont like the look of the wedge it deserves a decent review.
3 shots each around the green and you dont even take it to the studio to check the numbers.
Other than tech-talk there is not much help here for players who are searching for new wedges.
Thanks for your feedback Steffen, I will look at how this review was done and learn from it. After re-watching the video a number of times and reading a mixture of positive but also a more than normal negative response I can only apologise if you felt it was not to our normal standard. Thanks again Steffen 👍
Thanks for this, skipped the video.
Thank you for your honest opinion on this wedge, very interesting to see three players of different ability give the club a try and hear your feedback on the results. I prefer lower spin around the green and use a lot of bump and run technique in my short game. That’s how I learned to play and for me it works.
Put a couple of these in my bag a few months ago, love them. Even replaced my Mizuno set PW with a 46 CBX.
Hi all hope your keeping well. I have had vokeys for years, and love the looks yet I spent more time hitting the bottom grove. I now have a CBX2 in 58 and am just finding my short game. It’s definitely been a good move for me a mid handicapper. 😍
I have 50, 54 and 58 in the CBX2 and love them, really struggle with my chipping and pitching so they are giving me loads of confidence, so hopefully one day I can go back to a traditional wedge!!
Lester 'Bunker Expert'. Love the banter😄
I have the 58 degree full face CB2. It is excellent to get out of sand. I rarely use in any other situation. I chip mostly with a 50 degree gap or iron. My needs are more like Lee's and I could care less what it looks like if it works.
Great video.
As a cheaper alternative how would the Wilson sole grind harmomized wedges compare?
This was obviously pre Paul’s lesson for cack handed lester
I got 46 and 52 CBX Zipcore yesterday to add to my 58 CBX2. Rotex graphite shafts. Off a softish mat the spin and control is fantastic. Around the practice green again feel and control was superb, even with cut up practice balls.
Hit a few from 6" deep wet rough with enough spin and height to one bounce on the green. Amazing so far. Yet to try 46 and 52 from sand....
Great thin from Lee - who needs grooves?? Classic.
Good review, not something I personally would game but I’ve seen players that struggle use these kind of game improvement wedges before and they can really help
Lester looks well happy! a. doing the review and 2. actually having to swing the club!
I've played the CBX over a year now and they have helped my game and confidence for sure. I did not see enough difference in the CBX 2 to buy them. I will look at the CBX3 when they come out to see if there is enough to give up the original.
I play this wedges ..... love them 👍
i definitely gotta look into this wedge. i struggle hard with full shots on my 50-52 degree but my specialist wedges are fine in the 55-60
That 12 bounce is really high for those English “no sand” bunkers. I personally love the sole on that club. Tempting.
I play blades and now a 52 and 56 in this. Enjoying it so far. Once you have used it a few times you forget the looks 😆. Has helped with my occasional visits to chunksville.
Lee is the most financially astute and was just preserving the resale value of the club by avoiding the grooves.
I just ordered a 52 and a 56. Love Cleveland wedges
Has lester got out the wrong side of the bed.!! Chin up dude.. back playing soon . Great vid guys xx
i had the sm7 for a long time and i couldn't get out of bunkers or chip the distance i wanted, but soon as i put cleveland cbx 2 in to use i got better from bunkers and and a bit better in chipping which in turn gives confidence 54/58 deg
I have a Cleveland wedge ( RTX-3 , in Satin Black 56 deg ) in my bag and I really enjoy it for shots under 60 yrds, I find it's head weight really comfortable and it very versatile. This new CBX2 wedge looks like something I would use to Till the soil for rows of corn , It's bloody massive . :)
Great video Dan, question for you, I have a set of Cleveland CBX Launcher Irons including the 50 degree D Wedge as part of the set. Looking at a CBX2 to complete the top end and wondered whether I should go for 56 or 58 as I am only planning to have this specialist wedge plus the Pitch and the 50 from my set. Any advice would be appreciated. Thx Jon
To be honest Jon, you should get away with the 56, it will keep your gapping a bit better, just learn to open it up around the greens 👍
Perhaps could have done this as a comparison with the Callaway Mack Daddy cavity back wedges ? (Which I confess I prefer and have been custom fitted for)
Only a very small percentage of players are scratch, and any club that offers confidence, versatility, playability and at a reasonable price, should be welcomed by those of us who struggle with chip shots, bunker shots or pitching it in from 80yds. Good review.
Great review boys, you gain more and maintain confidence with a club by liking the way it looks and performs and they go hand in hand.
I just went from 52 & 58 SM5 to 54 & 60 SM8's with less bounce and love them. They do want I need them to do and with some more regular practicing on the chipping green I will keep getting them closer to the pin and stopping or running as required
I did try a 60 CBX that I came across. It work fine with the sole given lots of help with the bounce, but it was too much bounce for my style so I gave it to a older mate who is 36 handicapper and he loves and gets him out of the bunker when he needs to. Horses for courses
The original owner of the wedge didn't think much off it, after having some trouble getting out a bunker he threw it over the fence into work compound were I was repairing the sewer 😂😂😂😂😂
I am not sure not Paul H could have fixed his short game 😂😂😂😂😂
Looks like a started set club, grips it like someone who's never held a club before 🤦 love you really lester!
love when Dan say "nicely played" after Lester flubs a chip.
That golf grip though. 🤯
Have been playing a 50* and 60* CBX in the original design and both are amazing for their consistency from the fairway and short game specialties. I play a 56* in the zip core for a smaller grind profile. The 60* is the best wedge ever for attacking pins
Good review. The benefits of this wedge is seen more on the longer shots, not so much the greenside stuff. I've switched to these from the Mizuno T20 and difference on 60-120 yard shots is really noticeable. Miss hits on bladed wedges are punished and these are way more forgiving.
I use the Callaway version of this in 50deg and it does stop on short chips in bounces about twice and stops. On long hits it does stop quickly. I am just back after a 20 year break and I like it for the long hit. But I use a normal wedge for bunkers
Just taken the custom fit purchase of a 52 wedge. Tried it out on the back garden, just waiting now for ranges and coursss to open
I’ve got the CBX2 50degree and really like it. I’ve already asked my pro for the 54 to replace my i20 sandwedge
Hi Dan, I currently game Mizuno jpx 921 HM irons, the PW is 44°, I have had to purchase an additional GW that is 48° because my Cobra MIM wedges are 52°, 56° & 60°. Now I have a consistent 4 yard gapping. I also own a set of CBX2 wedges in 54°, 56° & 58°. Like Lee says the 58° is great from the Bunkers.
Nice video, what are your views on the Cleveland RTX ZipCore wedges - would make an useful video
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7 handicapper and I play 3 of these. 58 54 50. Fit perfect great out of the rough chipping full shots. Very confident producing! Miss hits still get there which for your avg golfer is huge!
How do these compare with their Smart Sole wedges?
I used from CBX to the Mack Daddy CB and much preferred them
Id like to see u test the Callaway cb to see if that is any better different or anythin vs the cbx2
Does he have his left hand on the bottom of the club, but hitting right handed?
Howdy from Victoria, Australia. Back in lock down again and not even a golf course open :-(
Lee’s bump and run shot after all that chat 😂
Hey Dan! I was fitted 2 degrees flat for my irons, should my wedges be the same? Thanks in advance and love the channel!
I am 2 flat also and then I go 2 flat in 54 & 3 flat in 58 for the softer shots 👍
Thx! Much appreciated! 😎
I have a similar 60 degree wedge which works well out of the bunker,( mostly), but is best out of wet rough around the greens, just needs a bit of trust to swing it hard enough.
Dan please review the Mizuno Es 21 wedges . Funky look
But at address they look nice and more in line with other wedges .
Nothing will replace my Bob Vokey SM8’s
Had them in the bag for 6 months love them . At address look the same as the rtx. Sometimes feel like I am cheating as some shots that have no right to still end up a good shot
Just purchased the 54 and 58 degree wedge. For a high handicapper they do the job.
I've been using a 54 and 60 all summer long. These are the only cubs that I can make the ball check up on the green or even get back spin. Will likely replace my A wedge next year that came with my Callaway iron set with a CBX 2 48. Size wise, I find them in line with most other wedges from other brands.
You know that may be a hell of an idea. I have Srixons ZX4’s with a 49 degree A (gap) wedge. I just got them and since they are very similar in build, sole and design to these Cleveland wedges, I might want to replace the ZX4 A wedge with a 48 CBX 2 to match the 54 I have and really like. Good take.
I struggle with wedges, so might chuck one of these in the bag and see if it helps. Looked like Lester really did not want to be doing this video!
I bag them in a 52 and a 56, and i love them...
I have the 52.10 and 56.12. I think the "forgiveness" that Cleveland touts for these is really in full shots. But they're great around the greens. Just point and shoot. I'm a 5 hcp and I've seen them in the bags of a lot of lower handicap players. The wide sole is no good for bunkers that have packed, wet sand, though. Just the wrong tool for the job there. When the sand is nice and has some give, they work great.
I bought the 54 and 58 CBX2 wedges at the beginning of last year. I love them so much I’ve now gone for a full set of UHX irons. Just need Boris to let me out to use them! 🙄
Spin is not the only thing to look for. I have a range of these and found the 54 & 56 to be the most extreme. However they are great and a great idea. I am sure that as Vokey through have such an extensive range they will certainly have their equivalents and they might suit people more, however Vokey is a more expensive option. I have to say that for me they are good looking.
13.49 RUclips gold right there! Pre shot hype about spin and the grooves on grooves on grooves and it ended up thinner than Kate Moss 🤣
Good wedge, i prefer this sort over the titleist that has the smallest sweetspot ever!! regards
I'm a 17 HC... on the way up from a 15 because i haven't been playing enough to maintain my game around the greens. I recently switched from RTX4s to the CBX2s (50, 54, 58) and have already noticed a big improvement. The forgiveness is a lot higher... especially on full shots. Around the green, I have noticed a bit less ability to manipulate the face... but i'd rather have consistency (aka forgiveness) than versatility at this point.
Decent looking wedge. Oddly enough, bunker play is the one area I tend not to have issues with. I don’t try to do anything too ambitious and just get good lift and usually succeed.
CBX2 is favourite to win Shovel of the Year, well done SRI(XON) & Cleveland
Hopefully this was filmed before his lesson with Paul. I’d hate to hear that he’s gone back to left hand low technique. Lester is too talented for those shenanigans!
This is an older video
Yeah filmed before the lesson Video 👍
TXG did a full swing test of these versus the RTX wedges and it higher spin (1000 rpm) than the RTX. I have little wedge skill and have inadvertently backed the 58 degree full face wedge up on a full shot.
Don’t know if I’d trust it of a very hard lie with that sole, would maybe go for the new mizuno as sole has been shaped better
We can’t all hit the “perfect” wedge short . I was known to fat thin and duff but do it much less and I am happy to carry two CBX2 52&58 .Tried and bought after your last review with that Mark chap on another channel..
You really need to test a 58-60 cbx2 as well, the bounce on a 58-60 is 10 and C grind, better for your hard sand and cold testing environment. The 54 is for soft sand and deep rough more due to the high bounce. The cavity back alone for full shots will give the average golfer the best confidence compared to other wedges, something you did not consider or test.
I have the 56 & 60 in the Full Face CBX2 Wedges. I am a 10Hcp and these are the best wedges I have played. Very easy to use and they spin quite nicely. I get people not liking the shape but it is a very easy trade off for an improved short game.
are you in the UK ive been looking for the cbx2 fullface wedge and cant find it anywhere
@@stevepeachey100 - no I am in the states. They are awesome.
there was an RTX-3 with a small cavity which was the perfect blend
Never heard so much dribble in my life
Cbx2 are great wedges in the hands of someone with a good short game
Worst review of any club I have seen on YT
@@relaxnchill9335 I agree mate those guys should be embarrassed about that rubbish
I do enjoy watching there course vlogs bit of fun
You should look into the Edison wedges.
The problem Barnsey is slot of people in bunkers get anxious about deliberately missing the ball...but I agree with you it looks the size of a double decker bus.
As for grooves on grooves I think Cleveland will be disappointed that 2 of you didn't want to use them 🤣
I’d have a look at the TXG review to see the spin profile on these in general and vs a specialist wedge rather than the scabby shots that were hit here.
I have a 60 degree CBX 2, and have played it for a whole season now. I consider myself a "fair to middlin" bunker player, I mean, I don't fear them, and don't have trouble getting out at least. I hit a number of bunker shots with the CBX2 that were better than what I would normally expect.
Around the green, from various lies and positions, it's really hard to tell, there's just too many variables, along with the fact that I don't have a great short game. So, I can't say that it hurt or helped.
On full shots I'd take the CBX over a blade 60 every time. It's just easier for me to hit a full shot and get the expected yardage with the CBX. Especially if the ball is sitting up a bit in the rough.
He doesn’t like Cleveland wedges does he, old Lester!😂 I do love a Cleveland wedge and will test this one. As a relatively high handicapper I am also interested to see how helpful this club will perform on full shots of say 90-110 yards and if it provides a lot of help/forgiveness for someone like me
I just compared my Vokey SM5 54 degree wedge to my new 56 degree CBX2 wedge. They look very close in size. Could you please compare your new Vokey wedges and give us accurate measurements vs. Feelings. Would watch the yoga channel if i wanted feelings. 😂
Lester should have his own equipment review channel..... All the main manufacturers would be clambering to send him all the latest gear for him to heap scorn upon and generally seem absolutely disinterested in.
Perhaps if the CBX 2 came with a tub of ‘Celebrations’ he’d show some enthusiasm 😀
😂😂😂😂
Dan, did you not like the club in the bunker because the sand was hard pack?
I knew that if I opened the club up a little the sole would bounce off the sand causing me to thin it out, so I closed the face down to take off the bounce and get the leading edge to dig in 👍
Oooooh someone’s tired, hey Lester 😂😂
Thanks Dan. Good review as we've come to expect. Personally, I think it looks ugly as sin but I can see its' merits for people who struggle. I'd have to look at it from behind a cushion it's that ugly.
16:58 I actually did this lol. 54 with this wedge then a 58 vokey K grind and a 60 low bounce lob wedge.
Dan, did Lester have his coffee yet? Maybe he needs a Snickers bar. 😁
Use a CBX2 60 for bunkers, it’s great. You just play a straight club and it pops out.
Can someone by Lester a happy pill😂😂
I bought one of these and i hit it less distance than my old adams tom watson sw, with a full stroke, I do get more spin however. Out of a bunker it hasn't been ideal either as i find i over hit them, again though i get spin, if I'm in a bunker i prefer my 60 deg. Chipping wise, I'm not a fan of too much loft so 9i is my go to, so it doesn't really tick any boxes for me. Having said that my bunker technique is not very reliable so maybe i could be taught to use it better. Realistically i should have left it on the rack.☹
52 CBX2 kicked my RTX4 out of the bag. I still carry a mid-bounce RTX4 58 but I've found I hate pulling it. The CBX2 has been great for everything.
The 52 grind is different from the 54 and IMO makes it more versatile. Easy to open or close.
Bernie, Cleveland are on the phone and want to know if you are interested in being a brand ambassador hahaha. Now I may have struggled with reading between the lines but I’m not totally sure you were a fan of that club or doing that review (I was cracking up)
I have a cbx full face and I struggle in the sand with it, the course I play most has really hard almost packed sand and I can’t get the wedge under the ball to save my life because the soul is so thick and raises the face up. Great for full shots but not good it hard sand. If I played more soft sand courses it would be brilliant
Try hooding the club slightly, it will allow the club to dig in more 👍
Was this filmed after Bernies chipping lesson with Paul? Why has he gone back to cack handed chipping again??
Filmed before the lesson video 👍
I was wondering exactly the same thing. This explains it though...
Lee took “use the bounce” a little too literally 😂
Seriously considering the 50 and the 56
I play with a 56 cbx2 and a 52 cbx. Both have improved my short game. This test needed to be directly compared against what you currently use to have any relevance. Lester’s normal RUclips charm had deserted him and there was an all round complacency to this review. I am a big fan of you the work you guys produce but this one should have been better.
Lester is a teenager in a middle aged mans body....." no i don't like it"..."No no I don't like it"
...it's like he makes up his mind before he's even seen a shot....
He's extreamly funny but could get a bit tiresome...with the "I'm tired ....I'm not enjoying this....I don't like it " sketch...
Lighten up man ....your work is our hobby !!
That's not saying I don't love him when he's on form.....Sunday shows are some of his best