I think you guys should clarify what you mean when you say if you play a cavity back iron you should play a cavity wedge. 97% of the market plays cavity irons. Cavity wedges are aimed at game improvement players. People gaming players irons should be looking at the tour style wedges.
Understood, we'll make the point in any future video, cavity back irons with slightly lighter weight shafts are the target audience for cavity back wedges. They are still a good starting point for all though.
What are you talking about? Cavity back anything is for game improvement. So when they say if you play cavity back irons, then play cavity back wedges. They’re obviously saying to stick with the more forgiving option of clubs if that’s what you’re buying.
@@D8W9Smith P7MC and ZX7 are players cavity irons with multiple major wins each. They're probably good enough for most of us. As far as players cavity wedge, Ping and and TM Hi Toe are the main ones that come to mind. Everyone can use a larger sweet spot, really.
Thanks for the great video. Very useful. I had one question, if the shot area is so big for the MG4 and especially the SM10 why are they so good/ popular? I would have thought for scoring clubs that’s a very important stat?
i was struggling with my CBX (contact and distance control issues) and i went to Titleist center for a test and maybe a fitting. I wasn't expecting the result, my CBX hadn't the rigth shaft balance for me neither the right sole shape, getting Vokey SM9 with a perfect fitting (EVER PARTS customized ZERO of the shelves) changed my life, not perfect feeling (it is blades after all) but it delivers, i don't knife the balls anymore and what i set is what i get. The most surprising is that for example i have a lob wedge with a bounce (low) and a sole shape (versatile) that i though was for the best players. Not at all it depends of your swing. Fitting is mandatory in my opinion whatever the brand but a genuine fitting pro, not a regular shop with a seller.
I just went with all stealth irons 5 - PW , AW , SW and i love them had cleveland wedges before and taylormade which were all fine and had the PXG sugar Daddies which i think were over priced a wee bit lol great review guys as usual keep safe and be well cheers from Canada
Just went to the golf show ,wedhes around 209 Canadian ,ping g430 demo druver 750 wow ! When i started golfing we would open stance and blade of a 9 iron I still use a half set I enjoy using clubs for multiple shots ,also yes I still have a day job but enjoy the minimal.
Hi guys! Out of the Titleist Vokey, Taylormade MG4 and Ping S159 which 2 out of the 3 wedges seem to have a little more forgiveness and consistency? Thanks, Joe
Considering buying either ping s159 or titleist sm10 50 degree gap wedge. Did you find anything in your testing with full shots that would tip the scale towards one of these?
Good stuff Guys. Thanks. I want to like the cbx but it came off the face so hot and the rollout for me chipping and pitching green side with a prov1 was tremendous. Not sure why. I believe the high bounce they offer was too high for my sweeping swing on the firm turf i am on too. I have a glide 4.0 that bites and holds. Are the glides and s159 considered cavity backs? I am going to look into those mizuno wedges because i am trying to find a cavity back with low bounce. Any suggestions?
The Glide are a really good half way step between cavity back and blade. The S159s are much more blade like. There aren't too many options but the Mizuno S23 would be well worth a look. Hope that helps.
Too many variables and off a Matt not a true test for a wedge either ...but a good vid nonetheless....cav wedges and cav irons mmmmmmmmmm not sure I agree lads 👍
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Vokey or Wilson for me. Never get on with Cleveland but they look great. Most prices are sky high though
Agreed on the prices Paul.
I think you guys should clarify what you mean when you say if you play a cavity back iron you should play a cavity wedge. 97% of the market plays cavity irons. Cavity wedges are aimed at game improvement players. People gaming players irons should be looking at the tour style wedges.
Understood, we'll make the point in any future video, cavity back irons with slightly lighter weight shafts are the target audience for cavity back wedges.
They are still a good starting point for all though.
What are you talking about? Cavity back anything is for game improvement. So when they say if you play cavity back irons, then play cavity back wedges. They’re obviously saying to stick with the more forgiving option of clubs if that’s what you’re buying.
@@D8W9Smith P7MC and ZX7 are players cavity irons with multiple major wins each. They're probably good enough for most of us. As far as players cavity wedge, Ping and and TM Hi Toe are the main ones that come to mind. Everyone can use a larger sweet spot, really.
Thanks for the great video. Very useful.
I had one question, if the shot area is so big for the MG4 and especially the SM10 why are they so good/ popular? I would have thought for scoring clubs that’s a very important stat?
i was struggling with my CBX (contact and distance control issues) and i went to Titleist center for a test and maybe a fitting. I wasn't expecting the result, my CBX hadn't the rigth shaft balance for me neither the right sole shape, getting Vokey SM9 with a perfect fitting (EVER PARTS customized ZERO of the shelves) changed my life, not perfect feeling (it is blades after all) but it delivers, i don't knife the balls anymore and what i set is what i get. The most surprising is that for example i have a lob wedge with a bounce (low) and a sole shape (versatile) that i though was for the best players. Not at all it depends of your swing. Fitting is mandatory in my opinion whatever the brand but a genuine fitting pro, not a regular shop with a seller.
Couldn't agree more Benoit, fitting is absolutely essential in such a crucial area of the game.
Nice to track practice sessions but real game changer is if it could also track results. Maybe integrating your launch monitor results.
I really like a full face on my lob wedge mainly for those green side bunkers but my gap and sand wedge I love a traditional face
A decent number of people would agree with your thinking Samuel.
I just went with all stealth irons 5 - PW , AW , SW and i love them had cleveland wedges before and taylormade which were all fine and had the PXG sugar Daddies which i think were over priced a wee bit lol great review guys as usual keep safe and be well cheers from Canada
Great stuff Addict, enjoy those Stealth irons.
CBX4 vs Set Sand wedge? (game improvement irons like hot metals) would be very interesting to see a set wedge in the test?
Nice idea, leave it with us, we'll see what we can do.
Just went to the golf show ,wedhes around 209 Canadian ,ping g430 demo druver 750 wow ! When i started golfing we would open stance and blade of a 9 iron I still use a half set I enjoy using clubs for multiple shots ,also yes I still have a day job but enjoy the minimal.
Wedges
Golf is an expensive game for sure Steve.
Hi guys! Out of the Titleist Vokey, Taylormade MG4 and Ping S159 which 2 out of the 3 wedges seem to have a little more forgiveness and consistency?
Thanks, Joe
Hi Joe, they're all very close, to try and chose between them for forgiveness really is splitting hairs.
Hope that helps.
Just ordered my s159 in 54 (s grind) and 58 (h grind) in the midnight finish. Love Ping wedges!
Great stuff, Simon has played Ping iWedges for 12 years and struggled to move on from them.
Considering buying either ping s159 or titleist sm10 50 degree gap wedge. Did you find anything in your testing with full shots that would tip the scale towards one of these?
No Jamie, both are seriously good models.
If you can, sit them side-by-side to see the profiles, that might help you decide one way or the other.
thanks gents awesome stuff
Thanks for taking the time to say so. 👍
I have Mizuno 245 irons. being hollow body u suggest cavity or blade? 13 handicap assume cavity
If you can accept cavity wedges they are a great place to start.
@ I have S23 now you like those?
@@BruceOglevie Very nice Bruce, we've had some good spin numbers with them.
I would like to know if Performance Golf ONE Wedge is pga approved.
Good stuff Guys. Thanks. I want to like the cbx but it came off the face so hot and the rollout for me chipping and pitching green side with a prov1 was tremendous. Not sure why. I believe the high bounce they offer was too high for my sweeping swing on the firm turf i am on too. I have a glide 4.0 that bites and holds. Are the glides and s159 considered cavity backs? I am going to look into those mizuno wedges because i am trying to find a cavity back with low bounce. Any suggestions?
The Glide are a really good half way step between cavity back and blade. The S159s are much more blade like.
There aren't too many options but the Mizuno S23 would be well worth a look.
Hope that helps.
Very helpful. Like all your videos. Thank you. Definitely going to try out a Mizuno s23. It sounds like it could be a match made in heaven for me.
Good video, but shame you didn't mention which were forged or not and price
Thanks for the feedback, there aren't many forged wedges out there these days, will try to include prices next time around. 😃😃😃
How do you not have cobra snakebite X on top or near the top?
Why would they be?
Because they are very good?
@@atfinthehouse8631 Based on?
What’s that bag
Too many variables and off a Matt not a true test for a wedge either ...but a good vid nonetheless....cav wedges and cav irons mmmmmmmmmm not sure I agree lads 👍
Thanks for your feedback Pete, appreciate you taking the time.
Hi, you state rust gets more spin? All the data I’ve read totally disagrees with this….was this a mistake or is there proof of your findings? Cheers
Rust=friction
More friction=more spin