Definitely a great video, as the above commenter said. I really like this analysis, especially considering its logical perspective. I also very much enjoy videos about personal preference, but objective perspectives are less common.
@@TommoMcCluskey How is it a shame!? He is mediocre. Here is the best way to evaluate a driver’s value. Ask yourself, what other teams are falling over themselves to hire said driver? If the answer is no one, then guess what the driver is pointless. The only reason Lance has a job is because Papa owns the team. Without that Lance would have been sacked years ago.
@@SirSneakerPimp It is a shame that you call yourself a f1 Fan. You mad at drivers cause you think you could do it better, but you cant. When you think you didnt make it to f1 cause you are not rich, are you not right. (Best example ist Ocon)
"...but that day doesn't come often enough." That really says everything about Lance's weakness in the field. He's great on his day, the upper echelon around him (Max, Charles, Carlos, Lando, Lewwis, Fernando, Oscar, etc.) seem to tap an extra skill to make the absolute MOST of every day they are on the track.
Personally, I think the smart move for Haas would have been for Gene to stand aside, become a silent owner, and elevate Steiner to CEO. Steiner was more a Zak Brown type leader in the end anyway. Without Steiner I have a hard time seeing Haas picking up sponsors
I literally used to support Haas coz of Gene, I literally have no other reason to support them (other than a mild curiosity about Nico’s usually outstanding performance)
Williams could have turned out so differently had they made John Williams TP. He had gone to F2 and built a winning team from scratch without help from Williams. He was set to take over but Toto, who was an influential minority investor at that point, blocked his appointment and insisted on Claire. No idea what his agenda was. Bringing in the best F2 TPs should be more frequent. Not necessarily directly into the head role.
@@SirSneakerPimp maybe not within the next few years, but i would be suprised that hes changing teams. redbull and him are a great combo and i dont think theyll let him go to any other team and he doesnt want to go to any other team. theyll stick until he retires
Alex is one of my favorite drivers, but he’s still got a lot to prove + he didn’t gel w/an ultra pointy car. He needs to continue to grow w/Williams. Following the Mika formula of growing w/a single team until it gives him a contender = his best chance.
10:58 Renne is honestly one of the best Team Principals in all of motorsport, he’s taken over 40 drivers to championships and won 32 constructors championships since the team was founded in 1983. The only reason I could see him not wanting to leave PREMA is A. The sentimental attachment, and B. The unstoppable success they always achieve year in year out, they entered the WEC back in 2022 and won both the teams and drivers titles in the European Le Mans Series… in their debut season, dipped from the series after winning it and are planning an Indycar team for 2025. As much as Renne is him, I think he’d value winning and continuing probably the most successful racing team in global motorsport instead of becoming Alpine’s next victim
@@mclarenm1 this is true, like you said F1 is F1, and like Sainz said when he joined Ferrari, when Ferrari calls you don’t say no. This would apply to literally any other team principle bar maybe Trevor Carlin and Renne, but I feel the due to the personal factor of the team literally being his in every way possible, I don’t think F1 would sway him that easily
Wolff out Vowels in is absolutely Merc’s plan, it’s just a matter of when. But I hadn’t considered Wolff just moving to a Zak Brown role while Vowels comes in as TP, but I don’t think Vowels would have enough authority in that scenario.
Fernando enjoys being a mentor at this stage in his career. What an opportunity for a team to give a talented prospect a chance to develop. Alonso is famous for his work ethic. Lance the opposite. A waste of an opportunity.
I don't see Fernando as a mentor. Just because he was sprouting about the brake bias or somesuch over the radio? I think Fernando is ultra competitive and he'll never be happy if a team mate threatens his position.
@@dougerrohmer I agree. He’ll mentor someone who isn’t closely threatening him. But I think he’d mentor someone who was good, especially if he is leaving or retiring soon. Also, simply being in the team with someone like him will teach you a lot if you’re just smart enough and motivated enough to study him and all the data.
@@The_ZeroLine Except he's never gonna willingly retire. Like you say, the only way to learn from him is to study the data (as a team mate you should have more access than the opposition has) and I would add that you should ignore every word he says because he might just send you on a wild goose chase.
@@dougerrohmer He definitely will retire willingly if he thinks his performance is slipping. He would never want to compete at what he felt was a diminished capacity. As he has said himself, if he’s not great at something he simply won’t even compete in it.
Finally someone recognises the actual stability and improvement at Ferrari that hasn’t been seen for like a decade. They look good, and have the best trajectory they’ve had. Which of course means they will crash and burn and fuck it all up come race 3. Half joking (I’ve been hurt too many times)
The stability and improvement of running illegal cars in USA and crashing out on the formation lap at Brazil? They have to abandon their current aero concept for next year as well. And strategy wise? Where is the stability when Charles and Carlos are fighting each other every single race for dumb shit like being the first car out in quali. The team is a mess, there is conflict between the drivers, and the team principal is a joke.
@@TommoMcCluskey I think they have “potential” it’s just wether Fredrick is allowed the tools and freedom to extract it, and isn’t interfered with by corporate middlemen like Vigna or Elkann
Haas doesn't have sponsers because Gene doesn't want others having a say in his team. There are reports Ryan Reynolds and that group approached Haas first before going to Alpine, because Gene turned them down.
I heard Magnussen say in an interview that the wheel guns at Haas are from 2016. I think it's lack of investment, rather than leadership, that's holding them back.
You are getting better and better every time. Your verbal skills get stronger, more melodic, better timed, the cadans is catching and you pull your audience along. I’ve noticed that you are the only monologist with whom I am never attempted to step out half way. I do that regularly with Peter Windsor, with Cameron, Alda’s and even Kym Illman who is a sleek a very catching salesman (actually he is a photographer/publicity entrepreneur. So dear Tommo you have come far by just TALKING. 😊Cheerio, Jerome, Amsterdam
I agree. For me, Tommo gives ”hes one of us” vibes. Doesent pretend anything, is in front of us as himself and it makes these videos very comfy to watch!
You’re 1000% right about Mercedes. Toto should focus more on the business end and they have an actual Team Principal. James would be a great fit there!
Why would Sauber want to sign Bearman? They for one don't have any close ties to Ferrari anymore so they won't sign Bearman unless he leaves the Ferrari Academy which he probably won't do and secondly it would immediately kill the Sauber Academy. If you don't want to give your academy driver and F2 winner which is still very young a seat, you can close your academy. Especially because the Sauber Academy isn't that big / doesn't have the same funds as the ones from the top teams so having the F2 champion in your ranks is a huge win. If they don't sign drivers for the Audi project already, it will be Hulk and Bottas or Pourchaire and Bottas for 2025. Anything else doesn't really make sense as Hulk is not really an upgrade over Bottas and really wasn't that great in the second half of last season anyway. Also Bottas' experience is more interesting for a team than Hulk's.
Well why did hulk get worse? Haas did exacttly one big Upgrade which was totally shite, while everyone Else on the grid got better. Also hulk is german, so the german Brand Audi would for sure live to have a german driver in their squad. And based on potential and results this season, hulk would be a massive Upgrade over bottas
@@martinlinke2084 He was clearly better than Magnussen in the first half of the season, especially in Quali. After the summer break Hulk wasn't really that much faster anymore and hadn't really any weekend where he could show anything special. Magnussen at least scored a point once after the break. Yes the Haas upgrade was shit but Hulk also didn't really drive it which was also kinda weird especially because the upgrade was meant to pave the way for the 2024 car. And how exactly was Hulk so much better than Bottas? Hulkenberg had one outstanding race weekend in Austria and gets praised because of it as if his whole season was amazing. Both drivers had bad cars in the end and made the best out of it by being at least better than their teammate. Again, pretty equal for me but i'd choose Bottas over Hulk because of experience in top teams and for the fact that he will be with the team for three years at that point and has probably a lot of insights.
@@SirZuri he had 9 Q3 appearances in that Haas. He was very good in Australia aswell. I dont see the point tbh, because the alfa atleast had 3 Circuits where it was seen to be good being Hungary, Bahrain and Qatar. Haas was consistently shit and Hülkenberg made wayyyyy more out of it. Bottas seemed most race weekends (for his standard, i highly appreciate this guy, even though it maybe wasnt comprehended as such) underwhelming. So for me, i would take him as a german car manufacturer.
I mean in 2022 Bottas really showed up Zhou, he had like 40 points on him in a car that probably shouldn’t have been able to get that many points… But yeah in 23 he didn’t do that anymore. Edged out Zhou, but not in a convincing way. P.S.: God, I hope Ferrari doesn’t make the same mistake with Bearman that they did with Mick and stick him with Haas
Finally, a RUclipsr who's given a fair assessment of the improvements Ferrari has made, rather than just rolling with the memes. The memes are funny, don't get me wrong, but if making those jokes come at the expense of turning a blind eye towards their improvements in the last season, it just seems unfair.
Gunther was never the Problem. The problem is they are divided between Three locations and have not enough Budget 😅 Now they lost the most popular Character in F1. So their Sponsors get less exposure for their money. Maybe they will decide to leave and then its over for Haas.
Komatsu drew the short straw there. Haas still use the old facilities from Marrusia because Gene doesn't want to invest the money the team needs. They can't get high value personnel from a top team because Gene doesn't want to invest the money. Doesn't matter for what reason Stroll bought Force India, but he actually gets the investment into the team that it needs with brand new facilities and hiring away top talent from the front runner teams.
The problem with Redbull is that Max will destroy any teammate no matter who, so the best is a Daniel in that seat knowing that he can race for fun without pressure and get some good results.
I don't think it's unreasonable for somebody to be able to average a couple of tenths off Max. And that's ideal for RB. They've just got to find the driver that'll accept that.
@@BeyondTheLizzy thats like saying theyre going to put Yuki in that seat. It just aint happening. Daniel is washed and literally is nothing but marketing material to RB😂
That rework on the Tommo outro text is top tier. You always make the smallest changes to keep formatting fresh and trust me it doesn't go unnoticed. Great vid as always, keep up the good work boyo!
Given that they’ve already sacked Rueda, and apart from Silverstone and COTA the strategies were pretty good this year, I think Ferrari are good to go tbh
@@TommoMcCluskey Definitely some part of the strategy team needs to change as even in 2023, the team made the wrong call. They shouldn't be asking the drivers for the strategy.
Vowels becoming TP at Williams feels like when a Merc Junior starts F1 at Williams. Get experience of the new job at the smaller team before you step up to the big team when the space opens.
I do think the loss of Steiner is going to cost Haas a lot in the short term. A lot of their popularity came down to the funny "he do not fok smash my door" team principal
IMO there's one change Ferrari should make: Lecerc's race engineer Xavier Padros should go. just way too much miscommunication between him and Leclerc for that to be the ideal relationship.
@@TommoMcCluskeyIt won't happen as Lewis isn't the driver he was in 21 and Mercedes won't beat Red Bull especially when they are thinking about RB 21 already. If he stop being as crashy as he became since 2019 and don't put a driver to have a serious injury. .
@@seanonraet8327 I think hes talking about max's 51G crash in Silverstone, but to be honest I dont think you can call Lewis "crashy", he's one of the best on the grid right now, I'm convinced he could have taken p2 in the championship
If Alpine want a team principal to take charge but we don’t want to see Rosin leave his fathers team Prema I think Alpine should look at ART team principal Sebastien Phillippe. Phillippe took over from Vassuer and has had consistent success with ART, Winning the constructors in 2023 and I think now is the perfect time to move onto F1 for him
Interestingly, while Prema don't seem to have any F1 aspirations, they have supposedly been weighing up an IndyCar entry, which I think could have some interesting impacts if it happened.
Mate what about Theo Pourchaire in Sauber? I personally think he has much more potential than Bearman, however I am open to a change of mind if Bearman wins it all (or comes a close second) this year, cuz you gotta remember that Theo was 5th in F2 in 2021, then 2nd in 2022 and won it all this year.
Carlos Sainz to Red Bull 2025? This is something I have fell in love with lately. He's got the relationships from his Toro Rosso days and who knows how long Max will drive for. Feel like Carlos knows that he won't ever been the "number 1" driver over Charles, and he would prefer to place his trust into Red Bull over Ferrari. And if Red Bull is able to tell him Max's timetable and that would make him a number 1 driver within 2 or 3 years, why would you?
Haas needs to sell a majority stake to Andretti if not entirely. All the beef they may have outside of f1 isn’t big enough that they can’t both succeed. There is an opportunity for Andretti to bring up Haas as a team/product with the potential GM is capable of.
about your Olli bearman to Sauber point, Ferrari don't have influence over the 2nd seat at sauber anymore and haven't had for 2 years. its fully up to Sauber to decide who comes in now
Alright, hear me out. Bottas to Red Bull. Don't tell me he's not the perfect number 2 driver, just ask Lewis. In no way do I think this will happen, not sure if Bottas would even take that chance if offered. But I know a part of him wants to win a couple more races. He'd do a better job than Perez, that's for sure. (VB 100% Q3 rate with Mercedes, SP 79% Q3 rate with Red Bull) I don't know what's happening at Sauber, maybe he's not motivated enough to give it his all in a car that's as bad as it is, maybe he's happy just beating his teammate for once.
Julie berg is, in my opinion, the far and away BEST option for RB atm as the main struggle with Checo is his quali pace and Nico is a Saturday Guy. He would also be easy to nab as he doesn’t want to continue on with Haas.
People severely underestimate how dog shit that Sauber was last year. They had 3 different races where Valtteri's pace dropped out of nowhere and still to this day they don't have an answer as to why it happened. The only thing we've seen of Bottas in a decent car was the first half of 2022 and he killed it. He was almost always leading the midfield. Recency bias is crazy in F1. That man didn't miss Q3 in 5 years at Mercedes, even in 2017 and 2018 when Ferrari had the faster car on average. Bottas is criminally underrated, anyone worth their word can see that.
Honestly, Haas should get either Drugovich or Gabriel Bortoleto (if he does well i F2) to the team because of Oakberry and it could really help with Brazilian sponsorship money and marketing (with other brazilian brands joining in)
As a Brazilian, I have to desagree with you. Haas already have one Brazilian driver and they have never gave a chance to Pietro Fittipaldi, who is coming to Indy this year 'cause he needs and wants to drive somewhere else (wich is almost every driver wants to do: drive). If Haas bring Drugovich and Bortoletto to the team, they will probably have their careers to an and soon, 'cause in my opinion, Haas will not get better untill Geene Haas sells the team (for Andretti, for exemple) or put some more of his own money into the team. And also, Brazilian money doesn't value as much as some people may think, just compare our Real with Euro or Pounds for exemple. So our sponsors don't value so much right now for the teams and the sponsors themselves don't have this huge amount of money to invest in our drivers, unfortunally. 😢 So, Drugovich, for now, I think is better for him to stay at Aston Martin, even if he needs to wait a little more if no other team wants to hire him next year. And Bortoletto is already part of the MacLaren Academy, so I think he will have a main seat in the team in the next few years.
@@walover165 To be honest, I really don't know why! And in my opinion, both Brazilian drivers are better than Mick, but in saying that I'm not saying he is a terrible driver ok? He was pretty consistent in his years in F2 and deserved his F2 title. And I totally agree with you about what Haas have made with Mick's career. I trully wish him an excelent year at WEC with Alpine and, who knows, maybe in the future he comes back to F1 again and on top! 🤗
How about getting a Guenther/Binotto management team somewhere? Guenther swearing and cursing and getting the brands onto Netflix, and Binotto just geniusing in the background. And they're neighbours and buddies.
I think Ferrari needs new race engineers, i understand that a lot of the information given to the drivers goes through the team before getting to the drivers, but i feel like both Leclercs and Sainzs engineers have been lacking initiative to move forward from the pit they are in
Regarding Ferrari: Leclerc’s race engineer needs changed. Far too soft with him. It’s like a father son relationship where Charles is the father, but it should be the other way round.
there are inconsistincies If you take Mclaren's marketing director out of Mclaren's business, you should find sb who will fill her shoes, you cannot say no change If you take Williams' executive director out of Williams' business, you should find sb who will fill his shoes
You left out Liam Lawson. IN' 'bleep' everyone else he deserves a drive. Any of the low-mid teams would be lucky to have him. He's the one driver that could really improve with a season of F1.
Would it make sense for Haas to incorporate the Stewart-Haas sponsors? Most of them might be too small to sponsor the F1 team (Mahindra Tractors and SunnyD) and Annheuser-Busch left but they still have Mobil1 and Monster. Would be nice to see Tony Stewart get a job at Haas F1 but he's too busy.
I'd ditch Xavi at Ferrari, so indecisive and seems genuinely incompetent. Lest we forget the Monaco impeding of Noris in quali? Or what about Monaco the year before: "ACTUALLY STAY OUTT NO NO STAY OUT"
The question is what is Haas gonna be without Steiner who made his team known via Drive to Survive and who got sponsors to ensure the team's existence, because Gene Haas made it clear that he is not gonna invest a whole lot more. For me Steiner never seemed very professional in his conduct, but he really did make a lot happen and was basically the heart of the team. The thing with Toto is, he basically *is* Mercedes F1. He owns a third of it, he was the team principal when all the success was happening, he is the head of the operation, he has that big trusting relationship with both of his drivers, I don't think replacing him would do the team any good. Bringing Vowles back as team principal would be great, but I can't see a world in where that happens anytime soon. I also don't think Toto would be content with suddenly not being the team principal anymore and he would probably wanna have a say in everything since it's what he has been doing for over a decade now. After a decade of eating the full cake you will never be satisfied with only eating half of it all of a sudden, that's not how life works. Imagine Toto judging every tiny move Vowles makes, it would be very difficult.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Josh Revel was also thinking along the same lines for Aston Martin, Lance, and the WEC program. To me, Lance just doesn't seem hungry enough to WANT to have those better performances as of late, and Lawrence ain't stupid. I think Lance's petulance in interviews from the back half of 2023 is a sign that he's getting a bit of heat for his lack of results from closer to home... If any moves do happen with Lance, they'll likely happen when the facilities are improved enough to be a valuable asset, Lawrence will likely make a business decision and sell up, likely to pour more resources into a WEC campaign with his son in the lineup. I'm not fully sold on it being at the end of 2024, just seems too soon. Then again, selling off to new owners right before 2026 regs probably DOES make 2024 the year...
When they win year after year Toto is an absolute genius who can perfectly bridge the gap between owner and principle. They become the most dominant team of all time with him at the helm and yet after two bad seasons ( still won the constructors mind and was robbed for the drivers) everyone starts calling for his head as principle whilst completely ignoring all the years that it worked. The law of averages still still favours him, and would do if he lost the next five seasons 😂
What I would change (improve) in Ferrari: the Ferrari Driver Academy. They've had some questionable decisions since Charles was promoted to Sauber in 2018. They pushed Mick and Gio too much between 2019-2021 and in those years, drivers like Ilott and Shwartzman got left out of contemption for the F1 seat at Haas and Alfa Romeo when they clearly deserved a shot. Also, since 2021, Shwartzman has barely raced (now will compete with Ferrari in WEC) and it's not a realistic choice for the future. Right now in the academy, the star is clearly Bearman but if he fails next year, then there are not really many "future WDC" in the FDA. Dino Beganovic is not F1 future WDC, neither is Rafael Camara, Arthur Leclerc (now fired), James Wharton (fired too), Maya Weug, Aurelia Nobels...
I don't understand the Charles hype train. Last year he beat his teammate 2 times, but Carlos ended up winning a race. Charles had 3 DNFs 1 more than Carlos. Charles also had a DQ. I'm no hating on Charles but Carlos is also really good and he's a majority of time in the cards for a podium.
Regarding Singapore, I'm not sure if you heard the convo between Leclerc and his radio engineer, but Leclerc was told to slow down and increase the gap between himself and Sainz multiple times... I wouldn't really consider Sainz winning that race anything special, especially considering the fact that Red Bull basically took the weekend off lol. Also Leclerc having 1 DNF and 1 DSQ more than Sainz makes Leclerc look even better, as Leclerc ended up finishing ahead of Sainz in the standings anyway. Just my opinion!
imo Albon's best bet is probably Ferrari at this point. I can see him poaching Sainz's drive and beating Leclerc at his own game given Alex's recent quali prowess and (imo) superior race pace to Charles. It would be a close battle for sure but I think Alex can do it. Also what a hell of a story it would be to get outright sacked from RB, build up from a slower team, then beat Max. That would be a fantastic title win though it would most likely cause civil war at RB
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First video of 2024! Hope you had a lovely Christmas & New Year. WE'RE BACK.
Tommo (f1 RUclips goat) taking an idea from James Lawrence Alcott (football RUclips goat) proves game recognises game
Another great video idea from you sir🫡
Definitely a great video, as the above commenter said.
I really like this analysis, especially considering its logical perspective. I also very much enjoy videos about personal preference, but objective perspectives are less common.
LOU IS NOT FOR SALE. HANDS OFF, TOMMO. 😠
Lou to Ferrari. Then also swapping drivers. You get the smooth operator back and we gets Lando 😉
LOL
NAHH NO WAYY
McLaren marketing team has been off a perk lately🤣🤣
Never expected the real McLaren channel to watch Tommo's vids xD
"Lance Stroll: A great driver on his day, but that day doesn't come often enough" is probably the most accurate way I've heard anyone describe him
Ti's a shame
@@TommoMcCluskey
How is it a shame!? He is mediocre.
Here is the best way to evaluate a driver’s value. Ask yourself, what other teams are falling over themselves to hire said driver? If the answer is no one, then guess what the driver is pointless. The only reason Lance has a job is because Papa owns the team. Without that Lance would have been sacked years ago.
@@SirSneakerPimp It is a shame that you call yourself a f1 Fan. You mad at drivers cause you think you could do it better, but you cant. When you think you didnt make it to f1 cause you are not rich, are you not right. (Best example ist Ocon)
"...but that day doesn't come often enough." That really says everything about Lance's weakness in the field. He's great on his day, the upper echelon around him (Max, Charles, Carlos, Lando, Lewwis, Fernando, Oscar, etc.) seem to tap an extra skill to make the absolute MOST of every day they are on the track.
@@LH_447
You, can’t handle the truth.
Personally, I think the smart move for Haas would have been for Gene to stand aside, become a silent owner, and elevate Steiner to CEO. Steiner was more a Zak Brown type leader in the end anyway. Without Steiner I have a hard time seeing Haas picking up sponsors
I don't think that's a bad shout y'know!
I literally used to support Haas coz of Gene, I literally have no other reason to support them (other than a mild curiosity about Nico’s usually outstanding performance)
Williams could have turned out so differently had they made John Williams TP. He had gone to F2 and built a winning team from scratch without help from Williams. He was set to take over but Toto, who was an influential minority investor at that point, blocked his appointment and insisted on Claire. No idea what his agenda was. Bringing in the best F2 TPs should be more frequent. Not necessarily directly into the head role.
Very interesting! I mean these are the TPs facilitating the next generation at the end of the day. Their knowledge would surely be very helpful.
@@TommoMcCluskey To me, it’s no different their drivers. Showing talent and ability to deliver results.
That team would have scored a lot back then
I think John had a fight with Frank Williams about something so he decided to make Claire the tp and John became the head of Williams heritage.
I assume we're just gonna omit the "get Adrian" possibility as that would theoretically be everyone's number one goal.
True 😅
I believe that Adrian is at his last team. He is going to retire within the next few years.
@@SirSneakerPimp No way really!!??
@@SirSneakerPimp maybe not within the next few years, but i would be suprised that hes changing teams. redbull and him are a great combo and i dont think theyll let him go to any other team and he doesnt want to go to any other team. theyll stick until he retires
@@SirSneakerPimp I dont think hel retire, but do what byrn is doing at Ferrari (and what Newey did around 2015-2017) and step back a bit
Alex is one of my favorite drivers, but he’s still got a lot to prove + he didn’t gel w/an ultra pointy car. He needs to continue to grow w/Williams. Following the Mika formula of growing w/a single team until it gives him a contender = his best chance.
I'd like that
McLaren could really do with an elite head of strategy. Hannah Schmitz would be a dream.
Good shout!
RB is never letting her go
@@TheMissiIewell obviously 🥴, I think they mean mclaren need someone like her
Toto is staying he sighed
Bring in Badgerman, problem solved (if you know, you know :p)
10:58 Renne is honestly one of the best Team Principals in all of motorsport, he’s taken over 40 drivers to championships and won 32 constructors championships since the team was founded in 1983. The only reason I could see him not wanting to leave PREMA is A. The sentimental attachment, and B. The unstoppable success they always achieve year in year out, they entered the WEC back in 2022 and won both the teams and drivers titles in the European Le Mans Series… in their debut season, dipped from the series after winning it and are planning an Indycar team for 2025. As much as Renne is him, I think he’d value winning and continuing probably the most successful racing team in global motorsport instead of becoming Alpine’s next victim
Serious numbers those.
but formula 1 is formula 1...if it calls...you can't deny the oppurtunity
@@mclarenm1 this is true, like you said F1 is F1, and like Sainz said when he joined Ferrari, when Ferrari calls you don’t say no. This would apply to literally any other team principle bar maybe Trevor Carlin and Renne, but I feel the due to the personal factor of the team literally being his in every way possible, I don’t think F1 would sway him that easily
Wolff out Vowels in is absolutely Merc’s plan, it’s just a matter of when.
But I hadn’t considered Wolff just moving to a Zak Brown role while Vowels comes in as TP, but I don’t think Vowels would have enough authority in that scenario.
Is Toto prepared to delegate and relinquish some of that control, that's the question.
They probably let him go to Williams, so he learn how to handle the TP job.
Fernando enjoys being a mentor at this stage in his career. What an opportunity for a team to give a talented prospect a chance to develop. Alonso is famous for his work ethic. Lance the opposite. A waste of an opportunity.
Drugovich would get so much value from that.
I don't see Fernando as a mentor. Just because he was sprouting about the brake bias or somesuch over the radio? I think Fernando is ultra competitive and he'll never be happy if a team mate threatens his position.
@@dougerrohmer I agree. He’ll mentor someone who isn’t closely threatening him. But I think he’d mentor someone who was good, especially if he is leaving or retiring soon. Also, simply being in the team with someone like him will teach you a lot if you’re just smart enough and motivated enough to study him and all the data.
@@The_ZeroLine Except he's never gonna willingly retire. Like you say, the only way to learn from him is to study the data (as a team mate you should have more access than the opposition has) and I would add that you should ignore every word he says because he might just send you on a wild goose chase.
@@dougerrohmer He definitely will retire willingly if he thinks his performance is slipping. He would never want to compete at what he felt was a diminished capacity. As he has said himself, if he’s not great at something he simply won’t even compete in it.
Nice timing with the Ferrari option
Finally someone recognises the actual stability and improvement at Ferrari that hasn’t been seen for like a decade. They look good, and have the best trajectory they’ve had. Which of course means they will crash and burn and fuck it all up come race 3. Half joking (I’ve been hurt too many times)
Hahaha! It's looking good, but "potential" is a dangerous word.
The stability and improvement of running illegal cars in USA and crashing out on the formation lap at Brazil? They have to abandon their current aero concept for next year as well. And strategy wise? Where is the stability when Charles and Carlos are fighting each other every single race for dumb shit like being the first car out in quali. The team is a mess, there is conflict between the drivers, and the team principal is a joke.
@@TommoMcCluskey I think they have “potential” it’s just wether Fredrick is allowed the tools and freedom to extract it, and isn’t interfered with by corporate middlemen like Vigna or Elkann
Haas doesn't have sponsers because Gene doesn't want others having a say in his team. There are reports Ryan Reynolds and that group approached Haas first before going to Alpine, because Gene turned them down.
I heard Magnussen say in an interview that the wheel guns at Haas are from 2016. I think it's lack of investment, rather than leadership, that's holding them back.
You are getting better and better every time. Your verbal skills get stronger, more melodic, better timed, the cadans is catching and you pull your audience along. I’ve noticed that you are the only monologist with whom I am never attempted to step out half way. I do that regularly with Peter Windsor, with Cameron, Alda’s and even Kym Illman who is a sleek a very catching salesman (actually he is a photographer/publicity entrepreneur. So dear Tommo you have come far by just TALKING. 😊Cheerio, Jerome, Amsterdam
Very kind of you Jerome, thank you! 🫡
I agree. For me, Tommo gives ”hes one of us” vibes. Doesent pretend anything, is in front of us as himself and it makes these videos very comfy to watch!
You’re 1000% right about Mercedes. Toto should focus more on the business end and they have an actual Team Principal. James would be a great fit there!
Checo to Williams makes sense like you said but if Alex beat him that would be the absolute end of Sergio's F1 career more than it already is.
I think it'd be close, don't get me wrong. Like Checo has been with all his Teammates, except Max ofc. And Button I suppose.
Imagine if we get a "Fernando is faster than you" to a Felipe remake 14 years later
Or maybe "Felipe is faster than you"
Would be quite hilarious.
0:57 well… uh about that…
25:16 are they?
For Haas I would have gone “Gene out, Andretti in”
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@@TommoMcCluskey Bro the fuck you mean "😬" it's ABSOLUTELY The way to go
That Gran Turismo 3 soundtrack in the background gives me the FEELS.
The Hamilton move wrecks the first part of this video hahaha
Why would Sauber want to sign Bearman? They for one don't have any close ties to Ferrari anymore so they won't sign Bearman unless he leaves the Ferrari Academy which he probably won't do and secondly it would immediately kill the Sauber Academy. If you don't want to give your academy driver and F2 winner which is still very young a seat, you can close your academy. Especially because the Sauber Academy isn't that big / doesn't have the same funds as the ones from the top teams so having the F2 champion in your ranks is a huge win. If they don't sign drivers for the Audi project already, it will be Hulk and Bottas or Pourchaire and Bottas for 2025. Anything else doesn't really make sense as Hulk is not really an upgrade over Bottas and really wasn't that great in the second half of last season anyway. Also Bottas' experience is more interesting for a team than Hulk's.
Well why did hulk get worse? Haas did exacttly one big Upgrade which was totally shite, while everyone Else on the grid got better. Also hulk is german, so the german Brand Audi would for sure live to have a german driver in their squad. And based on potential and results this season, hulk would be a massive Upgrade over bottas
@@martinlinke2084 He was clearly better than Magnussen in the first half of the season, especially in Quali. After the summer break Hulk wasn't really that much faster anymore and hadn't really any weekend where he could show anything special. Magnussen at least scored a point once after the break. Yes the Haas upgrade was shit but Hulk also didn't really drive it which was also kinda weird especially because the upgrade was meant to pave the way for the 2024 car. And how exactly was Hulk so much better than Bottas? Hulkenberg had one outstanding race weekend in Austria and gets praised because of it as if his whole season was amazing. Both drivers had bad cars in the end and made the best out of it by being at least better than their teammate. Again, pretty equal for me but i'd choose Bottas over Hulk because of experience in top teams and for the fact that he will be with the team for three years at that point and has probably a lot of insights.
@@SirZuri he had 9 Q3 appearances in that Haas. He was very good in Australia aswell. I dont see the point tbh, because the alfa atleast had 3 Circuits where it was seen to be good being Hungary, Bahrain and Qatar. Haas was consistently shit and Hülkenberg made wayyyyy more out of it. Bottas seemed most race weekends (for his standard, i highly appreciate this guy, even though it maybe wasnt comprehended as such) underwhelming. So for me, i would take him as a german car manufacturer.
I mean in 2022 Bottas really showed up Zhou, he had like 40 points on him in a car that probably shouldn’t have been able to get that many points…
But yeah in 23 he didn’t do that anymore. Edged out Zhou, but not in a convincing way.
P.S.: God, I hope Ferrari doesn’t make the same mistake with Bearman that they did with Mick and stick him with Haas
Finally, a RUclipsr who's given a fair assessment of the improvements Ferrari has made, rather than just rolling with the memes.
The memes are funny, don't get me wrong, but if making those jokes come at the expense of turning a blind eye towards their improvements in the last season, it just seems unfair.
Gunther was never the Problem. The problem is they are divided between Three locations and have not enough Budget 😅 Now they lost the most popular Character in F1. So their Sponsors get less exposure for their money. Maybe they will decide to leave and then its over for Haas.
Moving Guenther to a less involved, but more public facing role would've been shrewd from Gene.
Komatsu drew the short straw there. Haas still use the old facilities from Marrusia because Gene doesn't want to invest the money the team needs. They can't get high value personnel from a top team because Gene doesn't want to invest the money.
Doesn't matter for what reason Stroll bought Force India, but he actually gets the investment into the team that it needs with brand new facilities and hiring away top talent from the front runner teams.
Welcome to 2024 Tommo. Looking forward to the content this year, u are killing it!❤
Buck up Barba!
The problem with Redbull is that Max will destroy any teammate no matter who, so the best is a Daniel in that seat knowing that he can race for fun without pressure and get some good results.
I don't think it's unreasonable for somebody to be able to average a couple of tenths off Max. And that's ideal for RB. They've just got to find the driver that'll accept that.
keep dreaming daniel will never get it
@@ishannage248Yeah~ Red Bull totally didn't bring Daniel in as 3rd driver for RB and put him in AT because they didn't want him in that 2nd RB seat
@@BeyondTheLizzy thats like saying theyre going to put Yuki in that seat. It just aint happening. Daniel is washed and literally is nothing but marketing material to RB😂
I love the Albon Shout, Not expecting him to take the fight to max but he's a different driver from his first stint, would do bits.
The driver pairing one aged well 😂
That rework on the Tommo outro text is top tier.
You always make the smallest changes to keep formatting fresh and trust me it doesn't go unnoticed.
Great vid as always, keep up the good work boyo!
Surely Ferrari's strategist needs to be replaced.
Given that they’ve already sacked Rueda, and apart from Silverstone and COTA the strategies were pretty good this year, I think Ferrari are good to go tbh
Even now, with the recent changes?
@@TommoMcCluskey Definitely some part of the strategy team needs to change as even in 2023, the team made the wrong call. They shouldn't be asking the drivers for the strategy.
i genuinely think Vowels back to merc but as TP would be absolutely mint, but is vowels x williams that strong that he'd not want to go back? 🤔
Maybe! That'd be a lovely story, him bringing them back to the top!
Vowels becoming TP at Williams feels like when a Merc Junior starts F1 at Williams. Get experience of the new job at the smaller team before you step up to the big team when the space opens.
@@selder_7 Exactly that was my thought as well!
99,9% sure thats the Gran Turismo 3 menu soundtrack. So many memories! Great vid!
It is! Love when people include it as background music!
I do think the loss of Steiner is going to cost Haas a lot in the short term. A lot of their popularity came down to the funny "he do not fok smash my door" team principal
The new graphics mate 😍🎯
Bang on!
Much appreciated!
IMO there's one change Ferrari should make: Lecerc's race engineer Xavier Padros should go. just way too much miscommunication between him and Leclerc for that to be the ideal relationship.
the gran turismo music is so fire, thanks for another great vid!
If Lewis somehow wins the championship this season, I'd love to see Albon replace him at Merc in 2025
Bold that!
Lewis is still one of the goats but idk if both merc and Lewis are at title winning levels yet
but would love to see albon in a merc
@@TommoMcCluskeyIt won't happen as Lewis isn't the driver he was in 21 and Mercedes won't beat Red Bull especially when they are thinking about RB 21 already. If he stop being as crashy as he became since 2019 and don't put a driver to have a serious injury. .
@@evonne_o?? Who has Lewis seriously injured?
@@seanonraet8327 I think hes talking about max's 51G crash in Silverstone, but to be honest I dont think you can call Lewis "crashy", he's one of the best on the grid right now, I'm convinced he could have taken p2 in the championship
Ferrari: No change.
hm
If Alpine want a team principal to take charge but we don’t want to see Rosin leave his fathers team Prema I think Alpine should look at ART team principal Sebastien Phillippe.
Phillippe took over from Vassuer and has had consistent success with ART, Winning the constructors in 2023 and I think now is the perfect time to move onto F1 for him
Also he’s French which we know the team wants to pursue
Got to love a Tommo upload! Feels like we are fast approaching the start of the 2024 season!!
We back!
Interestingly, while Prema don't seem to have any F1 aspirations, they have supposedly been weighing up an IndyCar entry, which I think could have some interesting impacts if it happened.
Mate what about Theo Pourchaire in Sauber? I personally think he has much more potential than Bearman, however I am open to a change of mind if Bearman wins it all (or comes a close second) this year, cuz you gotta remember that Theo was 5th in F2 in 2021, then 2nd in 2022 and won it all this year.
Kings Back! Damn 30 minute banger I Will throughly enjoy :)
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"Ferrari... No change". LH disagrees 😂
Ferrari: No Change
mmmm
Carlos Sainz to Red Bull 2025? This is something I have fell in love with lately. He's got the relationships from his Toro Rosso days and who knows how long Max will drive for. Feel like Carlos knows that he won't ever been the "number 1" driver over Charles, and he would prefer to place his trust into Red Bull over Ferrari. And if Red Bull is able to tell him Max's timetable and that would make him a number 1 driver within 2 or 3 years, why would you?
As an Albon fan and a Tommo Fan i well knew that Albon would be going into RB in this vid!
Ferrari aged well...
Haas needs to sell a majority stake to Andretti if not entirely. All the beef they may have outside of f1 isn’t big enough that they can’t both succeed. There is an opportunity for Andretti to bring up Haas as a team/product with the potential GM is capable of.
about your Olli bearman to Sauber point, Ferrari don't have influence over the 2nd seat at sauber anymore and haven't had for 2 years. its fully up to Sauber to decide who comes in now
I get the Bearman shout, but no Pourchaire seems harsh on him no? He is a Sauber Junior after all.
Alright, hear me out. Bottas to Red Bull. Don't tell me he's not the perfect number 2 driver, just ask Lewis. In no way do I think this will happen, not sure if Bottas would even take that chance if offered. But I know a part of him wants to win a couple more races. He'd do a better job than Perez, that's for sure. (VB 100% Q3 rate with Mercedes, SP 79% Q3 rate with Red Bull)
I don't know what's happening at Sauber, maybe he's not motivated enough to give it his all in a car that's as bad as it is, maybe he's happy just beating his teammate for once.
I'm happy Formula 1 videos are popping up again. Cheers Tommo!🎉
Ya this video format has ALOT of potential across many forms of media and entertainment.
The Valkyrie program isn't linked in any way to the F1 AM program and Lawrence Stroll said his F1 drivers won't go there
Julie berg is, in my opinion, the far and away BEST option for RB atm as the main struggle with Checo is his quali pace and Nico is a Saturday Guy. He would also be easy to nab as he doesn’t want to continue on with Haas.
I saw that ollie bearman teaser at 21:15 ! Excited for the video tommo
People severely underestimate how dog shit that Sauber was last year. They had 3 different races where Valtteri's pace dropped out of nowhere and still to this day they don't have an answer as to why it happened. The only thing we've seen of Bottas in a decent car was the first half of 2022 and he killed it. He was almost always leading the midfield. Recency bias is crazy in F1. That man didn't miss Q3 in 5 years at Mercedes, even in 2017 and 2018 when Ferrari had the faster car on average. Bottas is criminally underrated, anyone worth their word can see that.
Isn't Pourchaire a Sauber Development driver?
Wouldn't it make more sense for Bearman to go to Haas?
1:56 I love the Gran Turismo 3 Dealership music here!
4:00 And Arcade mode music here ❤
Honestly, Haas should get either Drugovich or Gabriel Bortoleto (if he does well i F2) to the team because of Oakberry and it could really help with Brazilian sponsorship money and marketing (with other brazilian brands joining in)
As a Brazilian, I have to desagree with you. Haas already have one Brazilian driver and they have never gave a chance to Pietro Fittipaldi, who is coming to Indy this year 'cause he needs and wants to drive somewhere else (wich is almost every driver wants to do: drive). If Haas bring Drugovich and Bortoletto to the team, they will probably have their careers to an and soon, 'cause in my opinion, Haas will not get better untill Geene Haas sells the team (for Andretti, for exemple) or put some more of his own money into the team. And also, Brazilian money doesn't value as much as some people may think, just compare our Real with Euro or Pounds for exemple. So our sponsors don't value so much right now for the teams and the sponsors themselves don't have this huge amount of money to invest in our drivers, unfortunally. 😢
So, Drugovich, for now, I think is better for him to stay at Aston Martin, even if he needs to wait a little more if no other team wants to hire him next year. And Bortoletto is already part of the MacLaren Academy, so I think he will have a main seat in the team in the next few years.
Why would anyone wish that awful team on Drugovich or Bortoleto? Schumacher is a better driver than Drugovich and Haas wrecked him.
@@walover165 To be honest, I really don't know why! And in my opinion, both Brazilian drivers are better than Mick, but in saying that I'm not saying he is a terrible driver ok? He was pretty consistent in his years in F2 and deserved his F2 title. And I totally agree with you about what Haas have made with Mick's career. I trully wish him an excelent year at WEC with Alpine and, who knows, maybe in the future he comes back to F1 again and on top! 🤗
I think that Bottas would be reliably clear of Hülkenberg. Bottas + Hülk could be a good combo though.
How about getting a Guenther/Binotto management team somewhere? Guenther swearing and cursing and getting the brands onto Netflix, and Binotto just geniusing in the background. And they're neighbours and buddies.
Ferrari should replace Charles Race Engineer.
Funny the first thing I've learned from this video was that Mazepin was a test driver for Racing Point.
I'd argue Ricciardo's best season was 2020, he absolutely wiped the floor with Ocon.
2014, he beat 4-time WC at his first season in RB
Gotta love the grand turismo sound in the background
I think Ferrari needs new race engineers, i understand that a lot of the information given to the drivers goes through the team before getting to the drivers, but i feel like both Leclercs and Sainzs engineers have been lacking initiative to move forward from the pit they are in
Checco winning, Verstappen wont let that happen
Regarding Ferrari:
Leclerc’s race engineer needs changed. Far too soft with him. It’s like a father son relationship where Charles is the father, but it should be the other way round.
there are inconsistincies
If you take Mclaren's marketing director out of Mclaren's business, you should find sb who will fill her shoes, you cannot say no change
If you take Williams' executive director out of Williams' business, you should find sb who will fill his shoes
'One transfer EVERY F1 team should make..'
Ferrari: None
Me: -.-
If I'm an investor in Aston Martin and Lance has a 2024 driver's seat, I'm pulling out.
You left out Liam Lawson. IN' 'bleep' everyone else he deserves a drive. Any of the low-mid teams would be lucky to have him. He's the one driver that could really improve with a season of F1.
Agreed getting Toto out. Since Mercedes fall from grace he’s been desperate and making bad sound bites.
Would it make sense for Haas to incorporate the Stewart-Haas sponsors? Most of them might be too small to sponsor the F1 team (Mahindra Tractors and SunnyD) and Annheuser-Busch left but they still have Mobil1 and Monster.
Would be nice to see Tony Stewart get a job at Haas F1 but he's too busy.
Tommo you can’t be serious. Bearman in at Sauber over Pourchaire? Theo is basically guaranteed that seat for 2025 already.
Ferrari, Audi & Sauber all have their own prerogatives at the end of the day.
I think Drugovich is underrated. Like a lot.
But I like your suggestions. Seems well researched and convincing.
I'd ditch Xavi at Ferrari, so indecisive and seems genuinely incompetent. Lest we forget the Monaco impeding of Noris in quali? Or what about Monaco the year before: "ACTUALLY STAY OUTT NO NO STAY OUT"
Really interesting call on bringing in Rene for Alpine, I like that.
The question is what is Haas gonna be without Steiner who made his team known via Drive to Survive and who got sponsors to ensure the team's existence, because Gene Haas made it clear that he is not gonna invest a whole lot more. For me Steiner never seemed very professional in his conduct, but he really did make a lot happen and was basically the heart of the team.
The thing with Toto is, he basically *is* Mercedes F1. He owns a third of it, he was the team principal when all the success was happening, he is the head of the operation, he has that big trusting relationship with both of his drivers, I don't think replacing him would do the team any good. Bringing Vowles back as team principal would be great, but I can't see a world in where that happens anytime soon.
I also don't think Toto would be content with suddenly not being the team principal anymore and he would probably wanna have a say in everything since it's what he has been doing for over a decade now. After a decade of eating the full cake you will never be satisfied with only eating half of it all of a sudden, that's not how life works. Imagine Toto judging every tiny move Vowles makes, it would be very difficult.
Massive points for using the old-school Gran Turismo backing music. Love it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Josh Revel was also thinking along the same lines for Aston Martin, Lance, and the WEC program.
To me, Lance just doesn't seem hungry enough to WANT to have those better performances as of late, and Lawrence ain't stupid. I think Lance's petulance in interviews from the back half of 2023 is a sign that he's getting a bit of heat for his lack of results from closer to home...
If any moves do happen with Lance, they'll likely happen when the facilities are improved enough to be a valuable asset, Lawrence will likely make a business decision and sell up, likely to pour more resources into a WEC campaign with his son in the lineup.
I'm not fully sold on it being at the end of 2024, just seems too soon. Then again, selling off to new owners right before 2026 regs probably DOES make 2024 the year...
Gran turismo music at the start ^^
I think you’re onto something with your suggestion for Mercedes. It makes sense. Allison stays on tech director, Vowles as principal 👍
When they win year after year Toto is an absolute genius who can perfectly bridge the gap between owner and principle. They become the most dominant team of all time with him at the helm and yet after two bad seasons ( still won the constructors mind and was robbed for the drivers) everyone starts calling for his head as principle whilst completely ignoring all the years that it worked. The law of averages still still favours him, and would do if he lost the next five seasons 😂
What I would change (improve) in Ferrari: the Ferrari Driver Academy. They've had some questionable decisions since Charles was promoted to Sauber in 2018. They pushed Mick and Gio too much between 2019-2021 and in those years, drivers like Ilott and Shwartzman got left out of contemption for the F1 seat at Haas and Alfa Romeo when they clearly deserved a shot.
Also, since 2021, Shwartzman has barely raced (now will compete with Ferrari in WEC) and it's not a realistic choice for the future. Right now in the academy, the star is clearly Bearman but if he fails next year, then there are not really many "future WDC" in the FDA. Dino Beganovic is not F1 future WDC, neither is Rafael Camara, Arthur Leclerc (now fired), James Wharton (fired too), Maya Weug, Aurelia Nobels...
Tuuka Taponen dominating Formula Regional Middle East
@@bsylvester713 I didn't say anything about Tuukka. I have faith in him, but he is still far from F1.
Id suerly put theo to sauber as hes allready sauber junior
I am surprised to not see Pourchaire get mentioned for Sauber - isn’t he their academy driver?
New team radios for AM would be like "Felipe, Fernando is faster than you, that's the message, do you understand? Fernando is faster than you"
Love the Gran Turismo music!
I don't understand the Charles hype train. Last year he beat his teammate 2 times, but Carlos ended up winning a race. Charles had 3 DNFs 1 more than Carlos. Charles also had a DQ. I'm no hating on Charles but Carlos is also really good and he's a majority of time in the cards for a podium.
Regarding Singapore, I'm not sure if you heard the convo between Leclerc and his radio engineer, but Leclerc was told to slow down and increase the gap between himself and Sainz multiple times... I wouldn't really consider Sainz winning that race anything special, especially considering the fact that Red Bull basically took the weekend off lol. Also Leclerc having 1 DNF and 1 DSQ more than Sainz makes Leclerc look even better, as Leclerc ended up finishing ahead of Sainz in the standings anyway. Just my opinion!
imo Albon's best bet is probably Ferrari at this point. I can see him poaching Sainz's drive and beating Leclerc at his own game given Alex's recent quali prowess and (imo) superior race pace to Charles. It would be a close battle for sure but I think Alex can do it.
Also what a hell of a story it would be to get outright sacked from RB, build up from a slower team, then beat Max. That would be a fantastic title win though it would most likely cause civil war at RB
THAT GRAN TOURISMO SOUNDTRACK LESGO
Anyone know what the song that plays throughout is
My heart wishes that Laim Lawson would go race with McLaren it would be a good fit. But id say that, im a Kiwi. lol.