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Ranking Every Percy Jackson LGBT+ Character || Can Rick Riordan Write Gay Characters?
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2024
- Hello, and welcome to another video! In the Percy Jackson universe you either die straight or live long enough to become a part of the LGBTQ+ community, which I love to see. So today, in the spirit of pride month, we're comparing all those characters, pitting them against each other and ranking them! In the spirit of pride month of course :)
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Zeus is the type of guy to say "It's not gay with socks on"
Your not wrong
He turned Ganymede into a god just because he loved him
Real he thought he was hot and was like “imma grab this guy real quick”
LITERALLY
Right, but don’t forget in mythology it is said that Ganymede was kidnapped between the ages of 12-16, depends on the myth really. So I guess he’s also a pedophile, not that that’s very surprising at this point.
When describing Loki, I usually say he’s every single letter in the LGBTQIA, except the A.
I love that
No literally tho, like loki is shifting between the genders, being with women, being with men, fucking horses. Like he is everything
That is so true, even in the marvelverse he is canonicly bisexual
“Clearly he has they/them pronouns-“ *processing sentence*
I think my mind was checked out hahaha, I almost hurt myself from rolling my eyes too hard at myself while editing the video
@@Unclaimeddemigod lmao
Everone just casually coming out after nico
percy was everyone’s gay awakening 😭😭
@@whos.abb13 he was
@@whos.abb13
Remember when Will had the bike ride with Percy??
Yeah
@@normpe2851what bike ride? Which book is it in?
and when we say everyone it truly means EVERYONE
Thalia being lgbt is a popular fan theory similar to those that think Percy is bi.
I guess Thalia's seems closer to canon because of the whole Hunters of Artemis thing
I see how yall see that but what kinda makes me doubt is that in The Titans Curse she says Apollo is hot.
@@Sam-tw6lv Bi are also LGBT
@@Unclaimeddemigod But isn't it forbidden to be a couple even with a woman? In TOA I thought it was just an exception with the ex-hunters
@@toshirohitsugaya857aroace is also lgbtq+
The age old debate: Are they gay, or just Greek?
Haha
lol
Reminds me of the "gay or european" thing
@@BlueCookies1116 I mean Greece IS in Europe. And the people of ancient Greece are just naturally slightly fruity
@@BlueCookies1116 OMGS YES
I can’t with the “ARTEMIISSSS!” every time
it's the only way to say that name
As an AroAce person, Artemis is my Icon. My idol. My queen. She's the best AroAce Arrow Ace. My love for her is infinite.
Same
But what about Merida? She’s an amazing AroAce Arrow Ace
@@jastro. Love her, but I mainly hyperfixate on Greek mythology based books/games
Apollo in the original myths was a bisexual menace and we love that.
Reading through the myths,you can see Artemis only falls in love with one person,a hunter called Orion who she was already very close to,so I think she’s demiromantic (which is on the Aro spectrum)
And Hestia is an aroace icon because she shows that we can love our family and be caring and kind people so she is just unbelievably awesome.
It's up in the air as to whether or not Άρτεμις (Artemis) fell in love with Ὠρίων (Orion) or not
SOLANGELO FOREVER!!!! 🖤💛🖤💛🖤💛
yup yup yup
Yesss 💛🖤💛🖤💛🖤💛🖤
Solangelo was the ship that made me bi... ❤😂
FAIR.ENOUGH.
The reason there’s a difference between gay and attracted to men is that he could be bi/pan/etc and we don’t know his specific sexuality; just that he’s not straight
Edit: same with attracted to men and women because she could be bi/pan/omni/etc
fair
For women it’s Sapphic but why do men not have it?
@@Lemonade-Tree They do, it's called Achillean (I wonder where that came from)
14:11 "You're hot, so I don't care if I didn't remember who you were"
Me getting back into a fandom be like
tooo true
Reyna kind of did come out though that one time when Lester tried to get together with her and she revealed what Aphrodite said to her. I love that scene purely because she laughed in Apollo's face
i think the reason that athena is marked as alloromantic is because if you say that someone is asexual that is often taken to mean aromantic as well, so saying that she is alloromantic specifies that she is ace but not aro, without specifying who she is romantically attracted to
fair but in my opinion unnecessary
@@Unclaimeddemigod
You are right it should be unnecessary. But as I see it most people outside the LGBT+ community and even a good amount of people in it do not get that Asexual doesn't automatically mean Aroace. I am very open about being Asexual/Nonbinary and most people I meat just assume that means that I wouldn't want to date like ever. I think putting Alloromantic there gives people a distinction (also giving an explainatio. for being a maiden goddess while still having biological children).
And I think that's also why it's easier to see Hestia a a queer Icon compared to Athena and Artemis.
Athena's brain children are something not possible for us mere mortals.
And Artemis whole stick is that you have to take an oath (that is clearly not dependent on being Aroace).
Meanwhile Hestia is just like I am staying a Maiden and Zeus is like ok, I guess? (At least if I remember the Percy Jackson, Greek Gods book right)
@@Drag_on_king you're remembering right. Tons of gods were going "I want to marry 'Εστία (Hestia)" "No, I want to marry her" and Έστία just went "I'm going to be a maiden" and everyone went "okay!"
My Friends: Who's your favorite PJO/HoO/TOA/SaS character
Me: Nico Di Angelo
Them: Why
Me: That little guy needs a hug, a sister and a therapist, thankfully, I'm the whole package
Beautiful
me fr
Loki’s also Alex’s MOM 😂 (spelling mum American hurt me 😭)
Imagine Sam, Alex and a another demigod discussing they’re parentage
Nobody : ... is my father
Sam : my father is loki
N (to alex): is your father also loki
Alex : Nah, loki is mi mom
Hynthacius' story with apollo literally was my gay awakening so sad he's not in gay icon or rolling with the lgbt
Athena is aromantic and asexual in Greek myths. She's known to be one of the only gods Aphrodite has no power over and literally only cares about war and strategy. Rick may have dropped her being aro for PJO, but she's still asexual.
I think the entire Apollo cabin may be LGBTQ+ as Apollo is bi in Greek mythology and that may have leaked into their characteristics, as Apollo had a child with man so anything is possible with Apollo at this point
12:44 THATS A TROG?! OMG ADORABLE
Edit: I’m so sorry I need to control myself this is too many comments 😭
I really really hope that when they cast will solace that he looks/dresses like book Percy
That would be hilarious!
that would be funny, but to me it'd be even funnier if Will just looks exactly like Percy
Both would be funny
Not show Percy now being Nico’s type. So making will look like book Percy would just be hilarious. 😂
That would be funny but I’d hate it cause all the solangelo art would look like Percio😭😭😭
How Ganymede became a god was being kidnapped by Zeus cause he was pretty
a literal nightmare
22:40 I am not attracted to men (lol) but a guy being attracted to man can also mean he is Bi, pan, omni, and others. The ‘proper’ term is Achillean (the mlm equivalent to sapphic 25:08 also here)
There are other identities than gay, straight, and bi, so when you don’t know the most canon sexuality, it is actually a good way to put it in my opinion.
Imagine someone out there ships Hades and Apollo 💀
NO 💀💀
I mean... It's just the adult version of solangelo
But yeah I agree 💀💀
No😭
There is. I had the dumb idea to find out
@@justanonbinarynerd-ne9tt 😭😭😭
Arospec ace here, and I'm ehhh on the Artemis being good aroace rep as well, because the main reason she's considered aroace is because that's assumed to be the deal with the Hunters but some, but we also know of multiple Hunters who at least experience romantic attraction, so it's clearly not a criteria (not to mention the whole Orion thing). I would personally just love if Rick Riordan could clarify that she chose to start the Hunters because she's aroace and not the other way around, because it's definitely unclear in the text as of right now, and having her or the other Hunters choose to identify as aroace because they're in the hunt is not good rep.
Also I definitely believe Athena as asexual because it says that she falls in love with men after being intellectually attracted to them, which implies to me that she doesn't experience sexual attraction rather than just choosing not to act on it. I do agree in principle that being a maiden goddess doesn't automatically make a character ace though, because you run into the same issue where abstinence is a choice and asexuality isn't.
Yep, what you said about Artemis is how I view the hunters as ace rep. Also since Jo and Emmie prove the hunters aren’t always ace.
@@themythosarchives7520I think it applies to the hunters in general as well, I was just thinking more about Artemis when I wrote the comment. Jo and Emmie could theoretically be asexual lesbians though, unless there's something in the books that implies they're not (I haven't read TOA). I don't think being asexual is a prerequisite to join the hunt regardless, I'm just hoping for more ace rep lol.
The young justice clips were perfect, I love that show
that's the sound I hear in my head every time I say Artemis
@@Unclaimeddemigod Valid
@@Unclaimeddemigodsame lol
@@Unclaimeddemigod I mean, to be fair, that is definitely a scene that sticks with you. (That whole episode is pretty traumatic)
idk how it is in original but in polish translation, the way Leo describes Will in Lost Hero is giving twink actually 😏🦶
Why is there a feet emoji 😭
@@Hibubbles0315 👁️🦶👁️
@@wiktoriaturbo123 *fears aestethically*
Honestly, for me, Piper being bi just felt like it came completely out of nowhere. I don't have any issue with her being bi, but she never seemed to show any interest in girls/women until that scene at the end of Trials of Apollo. Also, the main reason she broke up with Jason (at least, as far as I remember) was because he pulled away after learning that one of them would die. And her reaction at the end of the Burning Maze tells me that she clearly still loved him.
Side Note: I loved the Miss Martian "ARTEMIS!" clip being used.
26:52 I mean, Poseidon and Nerites (a minor sea god, who was a son of Nereus, "the old man of the sea") are the parents of Anteros, the God of Requited/Mutual Love.
31:45 Personally, I'd put Zeus as Pansexual. He'll sleep with anything that moves, so long as they're even remotely attractive. (I do agree that he is the absolute worst.)
As an aro/ace myself I had no ideia we had such representation... I never thought the goddesses were ace (maybe Artemis?).
PS: I mean, this is so random, but when you said that Percy and Annabeth are blue and grey I remembered "Blue & Grey" which is a really, really sad BTS song hahaha I love it, but not Percabeth vibe at all.
4:55 but we shouldn’t assume that’s the default. We’ve started trying to stop assume everyone’s straight so I think we should stop assuming everyone’s allromantic
Ik that Thalia has some fan based ideas, but it was confirmed that her and Luke were lovers at one point, and she called Apollo hot.
I’m not sure about her completely but I think she’s straight based off what I know.
Where was it confirmed? I remember it was implied in the Demigod Dairies that Luke liked her, but never confirmed it was mutual. I ship them and need to find where it is canon. Please please please
In Demigod diraires we know that Like obv did, but throughout titans curse you can pick up on little hits here and there ESPECIALLY during Luke vs Thalia. I get the ‘but they were besties’ but, Thalia showed signs of heartbreak over and over when talking abt Luke, and my best friend (who had a bf) showed almost identical sign when he dumped her. Also, putting the information together, I’m pretty sure Rick did confirm it a long time ago. While typing this, I just did a quick google search just in case to check just in case Google was like “oh yes” or “hell no”.
This is a copy paste for ‘who did Thalia Grace love’ (or like)
“ Luke Castellan: A love interest while she was a runaway. Luke had promised her and Annabeth they would all a happy family. This changed after Luke's evil actions in Percy Jackson and the Olympians, and after she became a Hunter of Artemis”
I truly belive that Luke’s betrayal drove Thalia to the hunters bc originally in the titans curse she hated them but after the Luke vs Thalia she swapped to them. Luke vs Thalia had some GREAT little hints especially when she starts crying a little. It shows that she once loved him but now that was gone because she saw the monster he became.
Not to mention she ALMOST joined Kronoses army when Luke asked her to, but when she was thinking about it, he threw his sword at her, causing Thalia to end up throwing him off the cliff
I hope this helps!!!!
11:35 she’s an icon a legend and she is the moment
2:58 If anyone says they hate Apollo I will throw hands 🤭
Same! No Apollo slander allowed in this house
for some reason the quote about some people thinking pansexuality is fake threw me way off. I know people think that but that's such an unhinged take 😭
(Magnus gives pan vibes in the loudest, biggest way possible)
I'm just going off of the Bisexual manifesto
“ and it doesn’t matter who he is it just matters that HE IS GAY “
truer words have not been spoken
Yes this is the highest form of truth and enlightenment, also thank you sooooooooooooooo much for responding I'm super happy!
Everyone says that Will makes his first appearance in The Last Olympian, but he does appear firstly in The Battle of the Labyrinth when Kronos's army comes thru one of the tunnels
Love the content please🙏🏻 keep up the good work. ROAD TO 20k!!!
Thanks you so much @bunnthebunny 💙💙💙
Nico coming out was everyone’s gay awakening
21:34 “And he goes through such good character development throughout not one, not two, not three, but three series”
Oh my gosh, I love Nico and Will they’re so damn cute together
Lmao percy and leo are iconic bromance
I'm pretty sure that in one of the books (it might've been The Demigod Files or smth?), it was implied that Paolo had a crush on Valentina Diaz, which is probably why he's labeled as being attracted to men rather than gay.
PAOLO IS IN THE DEMIGOD FILES?!?!?
@@Unclaimeddemigod I think so lol
WAIT WHY DID I JUST NOTICE THE KIWI ON YOUR SHELF OMG CUTE, KIA ORA LIL KIWI!
from my trip to New Zealand this past winter (summer in NZ hahaha)
31:23 genuine question do u think they’ll do a heroes of olympus live action 😭 i wanna know if i’m being delusional or if they might continue after the first series live action
As long as it's not the (/cough/ live action movie /cough/)
12:07 I agree I think Hestia is the TRUE aroace maiden goddess
For those who are wondering which page Will tells Nico about all the people he’s helped come out, it’s page 219 of The Sun and The Star
I appreciate that even though you got the non binary person’s pronouns wrong a few times (I don’t remember their name I haven’t kept up with the riordanverse) you corrected yourself once you realised
I was kicking myself while editing the video, I don't know why I had such a hard time with it a clip :/
I just noticed your teen titans comics in the background, I love those books
I love the Teen Titans characters, those comics unfortunately aren't my fave (Damian feels complitely OOC)
Greek being a category✋
I think the "unknown, attracted to men" means something like "we know that this person is attracted to men, but might also be attracted to woman/non-binary" people or something like that
Thalia possibly biromantic idk that’s her vibes
I'm sorry you did not do mah boy Jason like that 😭😭😭
THEY LOOK SIMILAR
4:55 "why did they even mention this character is straight? That's stupid, if you don't mention that, it's the default"
Or, alternatively, "why is the word 'cis' a thing? If you just don't mention the word trans, that is the default"
When she said that they're a child of Nyx my Hozier fan brain thought of his only intrumental called "Son of Nyx" so I had to pause the video an listen to the song 😂
31:11 I wonder if they’ll even have Will in the show. He appears once in the series and it’s an offhand mention when Percy scoops him up to go heal Annabeth. I kinda do hope we get Will tho
I think we'll definitely have Will in season 5, we might even get to see him interacting with Nico!
yes heartstopper in the background👌
always
I onestly think his majestei has a little cruch on nico but its more a random headcanen
7:32 ok so basically in Greek mythology, Zeus one day saw Ganymede and realized that the under aged man he was looking at was attractive, so like any sane person, he abducted and forced Ganymede to become eternally young and immortal to be the cup bearer of the gods on Olympus. Because he was “in love”
posting friday yay
first
POSTING FRIDAY
omg Ice dat u? 😨
@@Giaschannel2012 YE
HI GIA
@@daicecreambowlHII
@@Giaschannel2012 HIIII
“Sneaky Rick” had me laughing
he really is though
Connor is cannonly gay or bi right?
my fav is Nico and Will
popular opinion
Hyacinthus is best ❤ (In Greek mythology, Hyacinthus was a Spartan prince of remarkable beauty and a lover of the sun god Apollo. He was also admired by Zephyrus, the god of the West wind, Boreas, the god of the North wind and a mortal man named Thamyris. Hyacinthus chose Apollo over the others.)
I WAS FLABBERGASTED ABOUT SOME OF THE CHARACTERS AND THEIR SEXUALITY- 😭
me reading the wiki list for the first time hahaha
@@Unclaimeddemigod lmao
i see simon snow in the background therefore i love you 😁‼️
that is very sound logic
Nah cuz Rick HAD to have thought of Nico like this:
Rick: “y’know what these books need?”
Fans:”what”
Rick:” A GENDER-BENT THALIA! BUT…”
Fans:” but what”
Rick: “gay.”
NO HATE I JUST RANDOMLY THOUGHT OF THIS WHEN SHE WAS LIKE ‘is Thalia straight or what? Cuz in my eyes she’s not.” :D
I literally just watched young justice and i saw artemiiiiiiiis i was dying 😂
Apollo is my favorite character in all of Fiction
wow
@@Unclaimeddemigod YES His story help ME when my DAD died
In Greek mythology, Hyacinthus was a Spartan prince of remarkable beauty and a lover of the sun god Apollo. He was also admired by Zephyrus, the god of the West wind, Boreas, the god of the North wind and a mortal man named Thamyris. Hyacinthus chose Apollo over the others. Boreas got mad that Hyacinthus chose Apollo over him, so Boreas hit him in the head with a discus. Hyacinthus died and somehow later was turned into a flower.
1:54 YESSSSS MY DAD MY GUY MY FAVE
DID YOU JUST COMPARE THE QUEEN TO JOJO SIWA?
YES I DID
22:10 You stay mad at your friend as you should be.
I think it says "Unknown, Attracted to men" Instead of gay because we don't know if they are _only_ attracted to men, or if they are bisexual
ARTEMIIIIIISSSS!!!!!!
ARTEMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS
I’m sorry but responding to an offer of immortality with “I’m too gay for that” make Lavinia an icon in my book
I don't remember this at all but it's cementing the fact that I NEED a re-read
What is that William DeFoe quote from 😂
it's one of my favorite quotes, apparently it's "a clip of actor Willem Dafoe discussing his character Paul Smecker in the movie The Boondock Saints during an interview in early 2019"
Hemithia and Jo are the GOAAATTS!!! (I can't spell names btw)
same bestie
12:14 ayyyy
fair ENOUGH
Apollo literally had a demigod son with a man in Trials of Apollo
It’s his daughter Kayla
Piper, my beloved
I LOVE LAVINIA
5:56 *they
Edit: I see you noticed that yourself 😂
I was kicking myself while edition omg
Athena’s kids are born from the mind or something like that, so that’s why Athena is asexual
the thing is, you can choose to not have sex and still not be asexual, so that's why it's unclear
@@Unclaimeddemigod idk the gods can probably chose their sexuality or smth
4:27 meanwhile Pallas and Chariclo 🤭 (not confirmed obv, just hc)
As another member of the Ace community, the way you talked about it felt a little... idk, dismissive and invalidating? Like allo being "the default" and not a label that needs mentioning. "Choosing" a celibate lifestyle meaning someone's not really ace, because abstinence must always imply underlying attraction, ig? And needing to give off ace vibes for your sexuality to actually be believed as valid. Idk, probably not what you meant to say, but that's how it came off to me at least. There's so many "not ace enough" arguments out there that seeing it come from one of our own, feels a little icky.
You can be ace and choose abstinence, what I meant to say is that *choosing* abstinence is NOT a sign of being ace
As for the rest, I only talked about it in such a superficial or dismissive way because they’re fictional characters (not to mention historical) so it’s more black and white than in real life aaaaaaand ✨vibes✨ are all I have to go off of (since nothing is stated clearly in the text)
Hope this clears things up 💜🤍🩶🖤
29:04 real, even though I know Thalia is asexual, she just gave me lesbian vibes
9:46 IT DID AND LETS ALL THANK MARK OSHIRO FOR THAT 🙇🏻♀️🙇🏻♀️🙇🏻♀️
I think the reason people say Athena is asexual is because she doesn’t have sex with humans I think. She makes mind babies or something. For me, I like the 4 type romantic model of attraction: sensual (touch), aesthetic (looks), romantic (emotional) and sexual (literally just sex). Sorry if you already knew that, it’s just something I like talking about. cause for me, using the two type model (romantic and sexual) wasn’t helpful cause sexual attraction basically included aesthetic sensual and sexual attraction. And even though I have aesthetic and sensual attraction I have no sexual attraction. So if you separate that, it’s possible she’s asexual imo
Artemisssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ARTEMIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSS
7:59 I was so sad his title of god if homosexuality didn’t come up in Chalice of the Gods 😭😭
Yayayay
thanks for watching!
20:31 YES NICO!!! THE EMO GAY BOY
“She must have liked him at least a little cus what female character doesn’t?”
Lesbians /nm /lh lmao
I feel like Greek is pretty gay 🤣
11:29 Hestia is Bestia -the mythology guy
If you want a cheese hat they are quite common in my state Wisconsin
... I need one now that I know they exist
30:54 the journey this fandom has gone through 😂
Thalia from here missing is sad
As a member of the bisexual community I officially kick Zeus out and put him into homophobia except on Fridays. (If this is offensive i am so sorry)