STOP Updating Your Scan Tool NOW! Don't Risk Losing Features!

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  • Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025

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  • @RANDOMFIX
    @RANDOMFIX  Месяц назад +5

    ▶ Email address to each scan tool company
    Autel: ussupport@autel.com
    Xtool: support@xtooltech.com
    Thinkcar: support@mythinkcar.com
    Launch: support@launchtechusa.com
    Otofix: support@otofixtech.com
    Foxwell: support@foxwelltech.com
    Ancel: support@ancel.com
    Innova: customercare@innova.com
    Snap-on: diagnostics_support@snapon.com
    Harbor Freight: cs@harborfreight.com
    ▶ Here is the contact information for the National Automotive Service Task Force (NASTF):
    Address: 4501 Harlan St., Wheat Ridge, CO 80033
    Phone Number: 855-636-2783
    General Support Email: support@nastf.org
    Vehicle Security Registry Support Email: support@nastfsecurityregistry.org
    Website: wp.nastf.org/
    ▶▶▶ ▶▶▶ My current scan tool favorite for home DIY ruclips.net/video/hE6pRJ6n9M4/видео.html
    ▶ DIY Key Programming using Autel based scan tool ruclips.net/video/D5TMb4PupOk/видео.html
    ▶DIY Key Programming using XTOOL based scan tool ruclips.net/video/7UmNijyj0c0/видео.html

  • @DavidPetrisor
    @DavidPetrisor Месяц назад +11

    Even if u don’t update the options won’t work the server needs accessing so even without updating u still loose the features ive tried it

    • @johnny4713ify
      @johnny4713ify Месяц назад

      Did you try it with this specific scan tool? I do know Launch and Autel have started taking that feature away unless you have NASTF credentials. Launch even has short videos about it really sucks! From what I've researched Thinktool so far has no plans, but who knows.

  • @only1hollywoodjacko
    @only1hollywoodjacko Месяц назад +10

    So you lost immo function on the Thinkscan 689bt? You can try to use a vpn on your laptop that connects to an ip address not in North America and turn on hotspot then connect your scan tool to the laptop WiFi hotspot, this method works on the autel km100 and brings back the all keys lost function that was taken away a couple months ago.

    • @RANDOMFIX
      @RANDOMFIX  Месяц назад +4

      I didn’t lose it on mine as I’m not updating, but it’s happening to users that updates.
      I don’t know if the laptop idea would work as it maybe vin specific. Check the links I provided as they have all the makes what are on board. It’s up to us to protect our devices and keep servicing our vehicles.

    • @only1hollywoodjacko
      @only1hollywoodjacko Месяц назад

      @ launch push an update a week ago with notification pop ups on launch devices stating it needs NASTF credentials log in or immo security functions will be restricted.

    • @RANDOMFIX
      @RANDOMFIX  Месяц назад +1

      Sorry I have been meaning to shoot the video, I hope others can avoid it.

    • @LegolasD
      @LegolasD Месяц назад +1

      @@RANDOMFIX can you recommend a scan tool that doesn’t do these updates

    • @johnny4713ify
      @johnny4713ify Месяц назад +1

      Do you happen to have a scan tool that has been locked, with this workaround being effective? I saw on a RUclips video that as long as you register your tool in the settings portion in an Asian market (not US, Canada, or the UK) and use a VPN, you won't lose certain functions. The video doesn't mention a specific manufacturer. The creator also said this method could unlock additional features that aren’t available when connecting without a VPN🤷‍♂️

  • @Splashfun2000
    @Splashfun2000 7 часов назад

    about last June I used my Launch 919e to program a new remote for my 2015 Hyundai Santa Fe, worked fine, in November I needed a new remote for my 2013 Kia Optima, thinking to myself it worked on my Hyundai should work on my Kia, didn't work. I did do an update, do you know if you can rollback any updates ?

  • @stevestadnik9206
    @stevestadnik9206 Месяц назад +2

    In Canada, you can go do Chrysler dealership parts department with ownership and Id and they will give you PIN.

    • @RANDOMFIX
      @RANDOMFIX  Месяц назад +4

      Thanks for sharing, that is very helpful. I find it very challenging to get the dealer to do anything for free, at least in the in states. It feels like we are walking backwards.

    • @leometcalfe9049
      @leometcalfe9049 Месяц назад

      Same here in the UK go to the dealer with the V5 ownership papers and receive the code for free

  • @burnjack291
    @burnjack291 9 дней назад

    I was going to get the scanner but need it to ask: What apps are gone now if you update the scanner?

  • @tigresdelsur
    @tigresdelsur Месяц назад +1

    Did they do that to the xtool d8s?

    • @RANDOMFIX
      @RANDOMFIX  28 дней назад +1

      I haven't heard from Xtool yet but viewers are saying the Xtool is still working, I will find out as I have two Xtool units coming next week

  • @underthedrone2735
    @underthedrone2735 Месяц назад +1

    I wish I had seen this 2 days ago!

  • @weloveups831
    @weloveups831 Месяц назад +7

    Crooks and thieves always will find a way to steel cars. This is just to screw the little guy.

    • @RANDOMFIX
      @RANDOMFIX  Месяц назад +2

      Yeah you are spot on!

  • @Elangeluxhn
    @Elangeluxhn Месяц назад +2

    Hi there,
    What updates are you referring to? System in general or just the maintenance immo special function software?

    • @RANDOMFIX
      @RANDOMFIX  Месяц назад

      Great questions, I would stay away from immobilizer and vehicle specific updates for any vehicle you may want to make a key for in the near future. Each make is different and honestly it’s much easier to avoid all updates. I know for a shop that it’s is had to do but for home diy it should not be a big issue.

  • @Splashfun2000
    @Splashfun2000 7 часов назад

    secondary to my other comment, I read a comment on some automotive website that says the NASTF agreement is not applicable in Europe and if you have a VPN on your home WIFI, set your VPN so it's shows that it's coming from outside of the US and then the scanner doesn't flag it and ask for security codes when you try to do keys, anybody heard anything like that or know if that is correct/works ?

  • @stevedebeukelaer1424
    @stevedebeukelaer1424 29 дней назад +2

    Hi can i ask you something abouth thinkscan 689 BT what are capabilities off immobilizer can it read pin code , create masterkey , all key lost , etc or is not avle to do that?

    • @RANDOMFIX
      @RANDOMFIX  28 дней назад +2

      This is the response I got from ThinkCAR in regards to this video. "We at THINKCAR are not removing the IMMO feature (nor will we in future updates) and hopefully you will make that clear on the video. But for the key code, we usually can't read it directly to get it, the customer enters it themselves. If their vehicle turns out to be unreadable, then it's not a problem with our tool."

    • @stevedebeukelaer1424
      @stevedebeukelaer1424 28 дней назад +1

      @RANDOMFIX ok thank you i know the xtool has the function to read the pincode also vdiagtool has it

  • @diydantex6150
    @diydantex6150 Месяц назад +3

    Thanks for the Information. I doubt that it will cut down on car theft much. Crooks find a way to get around things like this.

    • @RANDOMFIX
      @RANDOMFIX  Месяц назад +1

      Yeah you right, we know that and we consumers are not technically as crooks so we will still pay the price. Ultimately, The consumer burdens all cost.

  • @MD-on2wv
    @MD-on2wv Месяц назад +1

    Can the updates be rolled back or do a factory rest on the scanners?

    • @boydlittou9446
      @boydlittou9446 Месяц назад

      @MD-on2wv
      If I remember right my old launch had the ability to roll back the updates.

  • @boabas
    @boabas 23 дня назад

    So do you think I shouldn’t update XTOOL D8S for the first time when arriving since I order D8S and I should get it this Friday.. should I update it when I get it or NO, And does this apply to scan tool in Canada or just USA ?
    Please let me know

  • @boydlittou9446
    @boydlittou9446 Месяц назад

    What about all the kc501 and xp400 units xtool and autel has sold? It would make them useless as well.

  • @elliebalid9005
    @elliebalid9005 Месяц назад

    This is offtopic from the video, but do you if they have updated the thickscan 689 bt to see the car battery in the screen. If yes can i see a picture of it?

    • @RANDOMFIX
      @RANDOMFIX  Месяц назад

      I jut tried a few days ago and the vehicle’s battery information was not there? I don’t know what to say, others have said that they have the car battery information but I only get the scan tool battery charge level. The wired version has no issues.

  • @saudsh3774
    @saudsh3774 Месяц назад +1

    Hey, i have mercedes s500 2006, and s500 1998, and a bmw 740li 2014, i want a device that can be used at home i want to fix the cars myself, whats the best device that could be comprehensive and has all the features needed, thanks.

    • @RANDOMFIX
      @RANDOMFIX  Месяц назад

      There is such scan tools that can do everything across all makes but this ruclips.net/video/hE6pRJ6n9M4/видео.htmlsi=mz0NNVDgxJCjfLx2 is what I would get diy as it’s pretty good and doesn’t break the bank. In case there is an issue that this scan tool can not handle you will have money saved to pay a professional that has very expensive scan tool or oem software for the fix. Remember that most scan tools charge anywhere from 199 to 299 per year for the software. The one I recommended has lifetime updates.

  • @philmann691
    @philmann691 Месяц назад

    While the PIN retrieval feature is still active on the scanner, can we simply display the PIN code and write it down for future refereence if/when we need it? Does the PIN code change, or is it a fixed value over the life of the vehicle?

    • @RANDOMFIX
      @RANDOMFIX  Месяц назад +1

      Yeah you can read the PIN code and write down but they may disable the feature going forward. Trust I can see a whole black market full of scan tools that don’t comply and they should not have to. We are not doing anything wrong.

  • @MrSamPhoenix
    @MrSamPhoenix Месяц назад +3

    Oh boy… I ordered the one you have in this video. And now they’re taking away features.

    • @RANDOMFIX
      @RANDOMFIX  Месяц назад +1

      It’s all the scan tools not just this one.

  • @jimr549
    @jimr549 Месяц назад

    Can you still code a module such as an ECM after one of these updates?

    • @geecrawdad
      @geecrawdad Месяц назад

      From what I've read, it applies to any procedure security/immobilizer-related. But they decide what that means.

  • @rplagas
    @rplagas День назад +1

    tried x tool email it wont work

    • @RANDOMFIX
      @RANDOMFIX  День назад

      Maybe because it’s around the Chinese New Year’s?

  • @degklump1999
    @degklump1999 Месяц назад +1

    From what I've seen, today's scantools don't work well without internet and then it updates automatically?

    • @RANDOMFIX
      @RANDOMFIX  Месяц назад

      Some scan tools need to connect to internet every 28 days but you are asked whether or not you want to install the update.

  • @K_Shea
    @K_Shea Месяц назад +1

    Annoys the tar out of me but still very, valuable information. None of their business what I do or what car I drive.

    • @RANDOMFIX
      @RANDOMFIX  Месяц назад +1

      I agree and I wish there were more people like you! We need to vote with our wallets and speak out. Before we know there will a non government task force for every aspect of live.
      What’s next? HISTF home interior task force and they will be in charge of home 🔑 and the moto will be “ keeping your home safe”
      I hate control

  • @AllenNix-iz6ev
    @AllenNix-iz6ev Месяц назад +1

    I just reprogrammed a key for a 2012 GMC terrain with no problems ...

    • @RANDOMFIX
      @RANDOMFIX  Месяц назад +2

      Awesome, which scan tool? And was it fully updated?

    • @AllenNix-iz6ev
      @AllenNix-iz6ev Месяц назад

      @@RANDOMFIX xtool d8 bt and Yes it's updated ...

  • @berdiesjourney
    @berdiesjourney Месяц назад +6

    Oh no. I purchased the same scantool for key programming then they will may subscription fees? That is not good. My scan tool will be useless. Thinkscan 689bt please dont support this NASTF. Please please please.

    • @RANDOMFIX
      @RANDOMFIX  Месяц назад +4

      They stated in an email to me earlier today “We at THINKCAR will not remove the IMMO feature, hopefully you will make that clear on the video. But for the key code, we usually can't read it directly to get it, the customer enters it themselves. If their vehicle turns out to be unreadable, then it's not a problem with our tool.”
      So I think you will be okay, hopefully all the scan tool companies do the same!

    • @josephhettiger2711
      @josephhettiger2711 22 дня назад

      Just got mine a week ago

  • @certautotech
    @certautotech Месяц назад

    I just programmed a key for a 2017 Nissan Altima with no issues using thinkcar.

    • @NextLevelAutoDiagnosticsLLC
      @NextLevelAutoDiagnosticsLLC Месяц назад +1

      Which tool exactly?

    • @RANDOMFIX
      @RANDOMFIX  Месяц назад +1

      @NextLevelAutoDiagnosticsLLC could be all, I just wanted to warn everyone now.

    • @certautotech
      @certautotech Месяц назад

      @@NextLevelAutoDiagnosticsLLC thinkcar 689bt

  • @ashash8842
    @ashash8842 Месяц назад

    Mines already updated. Does it affect me in the uk?

    • @geecrawdad
      @geecrawdad Месяц назад

      No, so far just US as far as I know.

  • @NextLevelAutoDiagnosticsLLC
    @NextLevelAutoDiagnosticsLLC Месяц назад +2

    Thanks very much for this PSA

  • @robertfrancisco1193
    @robertfrancisco1193 Месяц назад +1

    ya i have seen this from time to time. roll the dice 50/50 chance if you update/

    • @RANDOMFIX
      @RANDOMFIX  Месяц назад

      50/50?
      Just don’t update if you are planning making programming a key, if you don’t program keys, then just update

  • @bdeloney
    @bdeloney Месяц назад +1

    The nra should be contacted and a class action lawsuit should be filed. The is no different than outlawing guns

    • @bdeloney
      @bdeloney Месяц назад

      If they get away with this our guns could be next

  • @boydlittou9446
    @boydlittou9446 Месяц назад +1

    If they force updates then whats going to happen when free updates stop?? They going to give the updates to ya? Because i dam sure wont be paying them for them if they're taking things away.

    • @RANDOMFIX
      @RANDOMFIX  Месяц назад +2

      I am just the messenger and I wish I had more answers but the same tool I showed in the video, the thinkcar 689 has commented in the last 24 hours that they will not be removing the immobilizer and it comes with free updates. I am not sure if they got a lot emails from the viewers as the video only has 2300 views but I at least we know of one company that is saying no to this bs.

  • @wallebo
    @wallebo Месяц назад +5

    Big brother really is watching. Disgusting.

    • @RANDOMFIX
      @RANDOMFIX  Месяц назад +1

      They can watch but let use program our own keys!

    • @wallebo
      @wallebo Месяц назад

      @@RANDOMFIX Exactly!

  • @rowelquiroz217
    @rowelquiroz217 Месяц назад +2

    Im from asian country and i have same scanner thinktool 689bt will it affect the tool if i update it or is it applicable usa or canada only,
    Is there an option to unable the update for immobilizer only ?
    Thanks merry Christmas 🎄

    • @RANDOMFIX
      @RANDOMFIX  Месяц назад +1

      I think it will only affect the usa market but I could be wrong so until you find out don’t update. Are you working on usa based vin number vehicles (vehicles that were originally sold the usa)?
      Merry Christmas 🎁

    • @geecrawdad
      @geecrawdad Месяц назад +1

      You have to do the system updates before others, at least on my Autels, so they could disable security features with those I suppose.

  • @josephhettiger2711
    @josephhettiger2711 22 дня назад +1

    Always someone trying to step in and be an authority

  • @stlyns
    @stlyns Месяц назад

    All thanks to car theives and keyless start systems.

  • @allenmclaughlin5283
    @allenmclaughlin5283 12 дней назад

    rip off is it only in the USA

  • @dtnel
    @dtnel Месяц назад

    Funny my tools program keys.
    They’re not tracking scan tools. Just making sure those developing the technologies are getting paid.
    I bet Mr Random Fix would think differently if he was told a thief stole his car, using a scan tool because there wasn’t security protocols in place
    When you look families in the face whose lives have been wrecked daily, and you’re having explained to them that you provide a service, for a fee, have proper training, have INSURANCE ensuring that if you screw up their vehicle that they have a legal recourse
    Look at all the hacks out there, whether you’re one or not they go out there thinking they know everything about these cars, get on the cars, screw the computers up and then walk away from the customer cost in the customer sometimes thousands of dollars that’s almost like the guys that steal cars because they weren’t regulated either with the scan tools
    It’s just ensuring that criminals aren’t out there stealing YOUR CAR!

    • @RANDOMFIX
      @RANDOMFIX  Месяц назад +1

      Seriously?
      You think this about criminals and for consumer protection?
      It’s all about the money. If it wasn’t then there would be an option upload a driver’s license and registration and get access to our vehicle features. Follow the money, not the sheep’s.

  • @Tony_Ey_O_Badabing
    @Tony_Ey_O_Badabing Месяц назад

    I just bought that scan tool. I guess I'm disabling auto-update. WTF, this is bullshit.

    • @Elangeluxhn
      @Elangeluxhn Месяц назад

      Sorry to tell you but is not possible to disable auto updates in the Thinkscan 689bt. I have tried in mine since I found that every time Thinkcar release an update for any brand the system deletes the one I had installed.
      The only way to avoid updates is by deleting the Wi-Fi network.

  • @dtnel
    @dtnel Месяц назад

    Maybe if you were so smart, you would go to the dealer, with your drivers license, with your registration or title, pay the money and they’ll give you the pin code as well
    I know it sucks having to pay taxes on money that you earned out there and it being able to be tracked while you make RUclips videos and all that but I mean what’s the big deal you pay the taxes on the money you make and you get to keep it the government can’t take it anymore

    • @RANDOMFIX
      @RANDOMFIX  Месяц назад +1

      If I had this attitude I would be working just to survive not live.
      No white flags HERE

  • @DavidPetrisor
    @DavidPetrisor Месяц назад +1

    NASTF has been around for over 20years just fyi it’s not new

    • @RANDOMFIX
      @RANDOMFIX  Месяц назад

      Thanks for letting me know! What for? Why are they trying to flex 💪🏻 their power now?

  • @WarpedSpeed
    @WarpedSpeed 17 дней назад

    as always if your honest you end up being to one that has to pay.

  • @personalimpressions4749
    @personalimpressions4749 Месяц назад +4

    FYI the OEMS have come out and told manufacturers of scan tools they “must remove certain key functions” or risk losing the use of diagnostic software, due to not following user end agreement between the two company’s. Which means tool companies would have to reverse engineer each module to use with scan tool. If they do that it those tools would be thousands of dollars leaving diyers unable to afford a scanner. This is not NASTF making the rules! Unfortunately auto theft is up significantly and these tools make it to easy to steal cars. The right to repair act in the USA does not include security functions.

    • @glenforehand
      @glenforehand 9 дней назад

      They sure jumped on the opportunity to profit from it. The executive makes a quarter million a year so it might be a nonprofit organization but the people operating it are making a lot of money. I know board members etc so I’m not just spouting bs. I’m a tech myself affected by this bs. Yes we should make money but it’s a case of limiting people from their own property that I’m against.

  • @JP-hm7jw
    @JP-hm7jw Месяц назад +1

    that stuff should be for professionals only. Can't have people stealing cars and making keys who are not licensed, insured, and approved. I am glad they are taking to steps to get rid of all the clowns and pretenders. And FYO, this video is bad advice because they will force you to update the tool so there is no way to avoid it. Get licensed and isured and pay all the costs to be the boss.

    • @RANDOMFIX
      @RANDOMFIX  Месяц назад +3

      You don’t need to update if you plan on making a key, I have just scan tools for years without updates. Making a copy of key should be for professionals only? I should be allowed to make a key for a vehicle I own.

    • @jeffcamm5707
      @jeffcamm5707 Месяц назад

      Pure Foolishness! The thieves make up 5 percent. The other 95 percent are legitimate owners!
      Do you see them banning alcohol because of the amount of DUI crashes? I can tell you this, the percentage is way more than stealing cars!
      So your argument holds no weight and is actually very FOOLISH!
      It's like you are grouping everyone as criminals!
      Everyone has the right to legally own anything as long as they don't break the Law!
      Those that break the laws, get their consequences.
      Your comment here is very very foolish.
      FYI. This Video is EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO SEE! 💯

    • @boydlittou9446
      @boydlittou9446 Месяц назад +4

      Car thieves aren't using scan tools to steal cars. You honestly think a car thief brings his scan tool and goes thru the procedures to program and make keys before stealing a car? Setting there all that time to get caught. I don't think so. It's a control money grab is what it is. Maybe if dealerships would stop screwing people for a key it would help. Who ever is responsible for this should be more concerned about the criminals that crossed the border. Maybe they are steeling cars.

    • @adaneshade
      @adaneshade Месяц назад +1

      You still have to have a working key to program a backup using a scan tool. If a thief already has the working key the whole point is moot.

    • @sorensengolf5907
      @sorensengolf5907 Месяц назад

      @@adaneshade jep 👍

  • @clive3076
    @clive3076 Месяц назад

    Ive sent email lets see what happens as ive purchased thinkcar 689bt

    • @johnny4713ify
      @johnny4713ify Месяц назад

      Please let us know what they tell you. Tx

    • @clive3076
      @clive3076 Месяц назад

      @johnny4713ify do you have an email address I can forward it to you cheers Clive

  • @dtnel
    @dtnel Месяц назад

    Funny my tools program keys.
    They’re not tracking scan tools. Just making sure those developing the technologies are getting paid.
    I bet Mr Random Fix would think differently if he was told a thief stole his car, using a scan tool because there wasn’t security protocols in place
    When you look families in the face whose lives have been wrecked daily, and you’re having explained to them that you provide a service, for a fee, have proper training, have INSURANCE ensuring that if you screw up their vehicle that they have a legal recourse
    Look at all the hacks out there, whether you’re one or not they go out there thinking they know everything about these cars, get on the cars, screw the computers up and then walk away from the customer cost in the customer sometimes thousands of dollars that’s almost like the guys that steal cars because they weren’t regulated either with the scan tools
    It’s just ensuring that criminals aren’t out there stealing YOUR CAR!