A detailed review with even more information: hobbylasercutters.com/sculpfun-s30-pro-max-vs-atomstack-a20-x20-pro/ Sculpfun S30 Pro Max: Official store: shrsl.com/40y0q Geekbuying: bit.ly/3CAyQbb ( Coupon NNNSS30PROMAX (PL) SCULPFUNS30PM (CN) ) TomTop: bit.ly/3rRQann Aliexpress: bit.ly/3T1Vfp1 Banggood: bit.ly/3EMVkZz Amazon: amzn.to/3D6h3dG Atomstack A20 X20 Pro: Lasercome: bit.ly/3CAMM5e ( use coupon LAX20PRO for 100$ discounted price 949$!) Ships from USA, CZ, DE, CN) FREE Shipping! This is where I got my x20 from! Banggood: bit.ly/3VFmxDx TomTop: bit.ly/3g9Wl3t Amazon: amzn.to/3CWUoAg
Thank you very much, great video very detailed and technical, I would like to know if the test file you see in the video can be downloaded. A thousand thanks
Hello, I would like to know how I can access the electrical diagram of the laser board connected to the diodes because some components have burned and I want to replace them. my model is the S20 Atomstack
15mm plywood is too thick. This plywood has too many layers of glue and can't be cut reliably. To cut it in one pass, you will need 10 times more expensive machine.
@@adrianz8728 no. It will get very charred and you will need 20+ passes. Check the review of the XTool D1 Pro 20W where I tried cutting 18mm Poplar plywood which is the easiest wood to laser cut. And it didn't work.
That was a very informative video comparing these 2 especially the automatic air pump. Thanks for that, because I have been wondering whether I should get one.
Those are 2 good machines but S30 haven't got the most essential for me :a touch screen with SD card reader that X20 got, putting files on SD card and engraving outside or in the garage is better for smell and smoke ( and eventually for house fire ...) However, X20 haven't got a large size extension option (480x850) as the S30 (905x935) and seems to be a little under the S30
Understanding diode and focusing lense technology concepts along with manufacturing tolerances, I believe the focus spot size could very quite a bit between two machines of same brand and model. Making a comparison imprecise using only one from each brand. Remember these are Chinese made and affordable, so quality control likely takes a hit. I bet a lot of you have experienced these quality control issues with other things and understand the nature of the game. However this was a very informative and useful demonstration of the two and gives us a real world example of the two. Just remember "your results may vary" Thanks!
If the Sculpfun S30 Pro is a clear winner in this case. Can you please make a video comparing it to the Xtool D1 Pro 20w. We are all wondering if the Xtool machine is worth the extra money or if the Sculpfun is better than the Xtool and is better quality for price. Or maybe could you just tell us which machine you think is better to buy? The Xtool D1 Pro 20w or the Sculpfun S30 Pro Max 20w?
@@JTMakesIt I'm also interested in seeing the direct comparison of the D1 Pro and S30 Pro Max. It seems like D1 is far superior in terms of mechanical precision. What S30 is great at is smaller focus size (0.15x0.10 vs 0.15x0.15) and better focus length. Is that about it? To me, mechanical precision is much more important, given that the focusing mechanism of the D1 allows for half-thickness adjustment, etc.
got to be honest your attention to detail is incredible! from one geeky laser nerd to another. I salute you .. time to trade in my S9. that S30 pro max is on another level..
Thank you for a very great and helpful video! Would be interesting to see a comparison between the atomstack x30 and the Sculpfun S30 Ultra, which are both latest 33Watts lasers.
@@rsorez329Not yet, I got busy with other things and had to forget about lasers for a while, I forgot I wanted a laser engraver. Now I'm already choosing a less powerful laser, a 10 watt module will do. The choice is between the Sculpfun S10 and the recently released Atomstack A10 V2, very nice and neat, but there are no reviews or delivery to my country yet.
The cutting test can be manipulated by adjusting the air flow. If you release the air less, then the number of passes will increase. If you use it to the maximum, then they will decrease by cutting this way faster! Connected to an external compressor, I cut 8mm mdf with X20 in 7 passes with 95% power and 300mm/min. It came out slightly burnt on the edge. With 100% power, the number of passes would change.
Very good informative video. Despite that Think that I'm going to wait for next gen, I think speeds are too low for 10mm thickness, I need semi pro speeds.😀
Hi Bro, How is the performance of these machines to cut and engrave clear and other types of Acrilic (without painting it black). We know that black Acrilic can be cut easily but how about cutting and engraving other colours?
Red, green, yellow works well, but they need more power or more passes for the same effect. Blue does not work well as it is the same color as the laser beam.
Obviously the sculpfun is the better machine but I was looking for stats and the Atom Stack comes out better on webpage and when I was having problems with my current Atomstack P7 they had a very good customer service how is the Sculpin customer service?
Offline operation is a huge plus! When the unit is mounted in a location away from the design computer, sneaker netting a file to the laser makes life a lot simpler.
Another great video made by you helped me choose between the X20 and the S30 pro max. Do you know which one I chose? I am delighted to watch all your movies. Regards from Poland Artur
@@JTMakesIt what if i can get a s9 pro from a friend for 250 though? Is the s10 that much better? or could i get by with the s9? again I wanna do some cutting and burning for sure. Appreciate your quick response!
All machines I have tested so far have a larger focus spot than advertised. This is why I test this :) i think it could also vary from the machine to the machine.
Very impressive video. This comparison video help a lot for me to decide which one I really want to go for. Not too many people out there are making video like this so thanks gor all the efforts. Two thumbs up.
Hola tengo atomstack a 20 y tengo problemas con corte de mdf y contrachapado de 9 mm ya que el corte no lo hace bien o no lo hace cual es el problema que tengo para el corte agradesco tu respeuesta
The protective lens is a neat feature. I wish all laser module adapted this as a laser module lenses can be easily be damage and brick easily than expected. Anyway do you have any plan to cover the NEJE E40 Laser module? It will be an interesting comparison to the Sculpfun since it's claim to have a thinner and longer focus size. It's also have this weird temperature module adapter and air tube which is pretty interesting to check out.
Me encanto tu video y las pruebas bastante precisas, lo mejor es que no apoyaste a ninguna solo hiciste las pruebas y es decisión de los clientes decidir, excelente! Saludos
@@JTMakesIt Thank you. But I meant a concise list of all the lasers you've tested so far. Received the Jinsoku LC-40 with the compresses laser last week and am quite disappointed. they promise 0.05*0.08 but I'm getting closer to 0.12*0.30.
You never know the author's reasons for using it. Some people have speech difficulties, or don't like the sound of their own voice, or maybe don't like having to record multiple takes to fix mistakes. Over time, the text to speech voices will continue to improve.
A detailed review with even more information: hobbylasercutters.com/sculpfun-s30-pro-max-vs-atomstack-a20-x20-pro/
Sculpfun S30 Pro Max:
Official store: shrsl.com/40y0q
Geekbuying: bit.ly/3CAyQbb ( Coupon NNNSS30PROMAX (PL) SCULPFUNS30PM (CN) )
TomTop: bit.ly/3rRQann
Aliexpress: bit.ly/3T1Vfp1
Banggood: bit.ly/3EMVkZz
Amazon: amzn.to/3D6h3dG
Atomstack A20 X20 Pro:
Lasercome: bit.ly/3CAMM5e ( use coupon LAX20PRO for 100$ discounted price 949$!) Ships from USA, CZ, DE, CN) FREE Shipping! This is where I got my x20 from!
Banggood: bit.ly/3VFmxDx
TomTop: bit.ly/3g9Wl3t
Amazon: amzn.to/3CWUoAg
Hi!
Have you tested the Sculpfun S30 Ultra 33W?
Many thanks for your videos.
@@eloym8506 Soon!
Sinceramente hay algo en las maquinas de atomstack que no me terminan de gustar, acabo de comprar mi s30 pro máx 😊
Hello how is it working??
Great video. I really loved it. Thanks much
Thank you very much, great video very detailed and technical, I would like to know if the test file you see in the video can be downloaded. A thousand thanks
It can be. Check the website hobbylasercutters.com in the video description
Thx for the real informative vídeo.
Hello, I would like to know how I can access the electrical diagram of the laser board connected to the diodes because some components have burned and I want to replace them. my model is the S20 Atomstack
There is no electrical diagram available. Send me an email and I can look it up for you on my machine
Bonjour avez-vous réalisé se comparatif xtool d1 20 vs sculpfun s30 pro merci
Check my other videos, I have also tested the xTool D1 20W just recently
can you use a normal compressor ?
Yes
Great video!!! Do you know if it’s posible to cut 15mm plywood?? No need to cut it in one pass 😉
If so, a video will be very appreciated 😄
Thanks!
15mm plywood is too thick. This plywood has too many layers of glue and can't be cut reliably. To cut it in one pass, you will need 10 times more expensive machine.
But, is it posible to cut it with more than 1 pass?
@@adrianz8728 no. It will get very charred and you will need 20+ passes. Check the review of the XTool D1 Pro 20W where I tried cutting 18mm Poplar plywood which is the easiest wood to laser cut. And it didn't work.
Got it! Thank you for your comments 👍🏻
Don’t get it. All these 20 W lasera can cut up to 20 mm thick wood in one pass? Isn’t ? there are plenty videos.
Thank you so much sir very knolagefull information i repit ones agen thanks and subscribe you chnnel🎉🎉🎉
Thank you!
This would be a good channel if you used a real voice.
That was a very informative video comparing these 2 especially the automatic air pump. Thanks for that, because I have been wondering whether I should get one.
Thank you for the laser dot details, and deep comparisons. Truly helpful
This is a great review! This helps me narrow it down to my next Quad Laser
Those are 2 good machines but S30 haven't got the most essential for me :a touch screen with SD card reader that X20 got, putting files on SD card and engraving outside or in the garage is better for smell and smoke ( and eventually for house fire ...)
However, X20 haven't got a large size extension option (480x850) as the S30 (905x935) and seems to be a little under the S30
Understanding diode and focusing lense technology concepts along with manufacturing tolerances, I believe the focus spot size could very quite a bit between two machines of same brand and model. Making a comparison imprecise using only one from each brand. Remember these are Chinese made and affordable, so quality control likely takes a hit. I bet a lot of you have experienced these quality control issues with other things and understand the nature of the game.
However this was a very informative and useful demonstration of the two and gives us a real world example of the two.
Just remember "your results may vary"
Thanks!
Best details comparison ... I wonder it can cut ss steel
Hi im from the UK. Im looking for a laser cutter for wood with big sizes from 1 meter, at a deacent price.
Check the link in the description for Sculpfun. You get also the extension kit to almost 1 meter square
This side by side comparison review, has been the best review I've seen. Thank you
Thank you, I appreciate it 😊
Thnx JT for this, yet again, another awesome detailed review! Your work helps me a lot!
If the Sculpfun S30 Pro is a clear winner in this case. Can you please make a video comparing it to the Xtool D1 Pro 20w. We are all wondering if the Xtool machine is worth the extra money or if the Sculpfun is better than the Xtool and is better quality for price. Or maybe could you just tell us which machine you think is better to buy? The Xtool D1 Pro 20w or the Sculpfun S30 Pro Max 20w?
I have already tested the xTool D1 Pro 20W. Check my other videos.
@@JTMakesIt I'm also interested in seeing the direct comparison of the D1 Pro and S30 Pro Max. It seems like D1 is far superior in terms of mechanical precision. What S30 is great at is smaller focus size (0.15x0.10 vs 0.15x0.15) and better focus length. Is that about it? To me, mechanical precision is much more important, given that the focusing mechanism of the D1 allows for half-thickness adjustment, etc.
@@arttosborvorn I i also have a video of the xTool D1 Pro 20W test. I did similar test so you can directly compare
Thank you for this review. This help me a lot on what to get.
got to be honest your attention to detail is incredible! from one geeky laser nerd to another. I salute you .. time to trade in my S9. that S30 pro max is on another level..
Thanks! 👍😁
I sold my Sculpfun S9 recently, was with me for 6 months. Bought it for $290, sold it for $281) Eventually I want to buy the S30 Max
Atomstack has a new laser engraver: Atomstack X30 Pro 160W 6-core Laser with a optical power of 33 Watt .
Thank you for a very great and helpful video!
Would be interesting to see a comparison between the atomstack x30 and the Sculpfun S30 Ultra, which are both latest 33Watts lasers.
I plan to test at least one if not both
I will buy THIS ONE. Only for the lense
If you have any questions, you can contact me anytime😊
thanks for your great video...how to try a Hogardeco honeycomb laser bed ?
Thnx JT for great info,need to sell my S9 and get the S30 pro max 😁😅
I sold my Sculpfun S9 recently, was with me for 6 months. Bought it for $290, sold it for $281) Eventually I want to buy the S30 Max
@@Director_Youtuba and i did buy S30 pro max 😁😁
@@Director_Youtuba Did you buy it eventually?
@@rsorez329Not yet, I got busy with other things and had to forget about lasers for a while, I forgot I wanted a laser engraver. Now I'm already choosing a less powerful laser, a 10 watt module will do. The choice is between the Sculpfun S10 and the recently released Atomstack A10 V2, very nice and neat, but there are no reviews or delivery to my country yet.
Looks like the Sculpun is best. Note that one link below shows $772 while rest are about $850+
Thanks for the video. Helped me to decide to buy a laser engraver ❤
The cutting test can be manipulated by adjusting the air flow. If you release the air less, then the number of passes will increase. If you use it to the maximum, then they will decrease by cutting this way faster!
Connected to an external compressor, I cut 8mm mdf with X20 in 7 passes with 95% power and 300mm/min. It came out slightly burnt on the edge. With 100% power, the number of passes would change.
I use full air assist power for cutting tests. The flow depends on the pump
Like how do your review
Excellent review. Seems we are on the cusp of amazing diode laser progress.
My experience is that every few months a big breakthrough happens both in price and technology.
I am looking at the atomstack x20 pro so we will see in the future
Just so cool
Just the comparison I was looking for. I am curious about the metal color marking comparison.
Very good informative video. Despite that Think that I'm going to wait for next gen, I think speeds are too low for 10mm thickness, I need semi pro speeds.😀
I also like that you give winner from comments.
This is assisting my research for a laser cutter immensely... Thanks
.........THANKs .......what is the best and cheapest way for cutting Steel with 5mm?
There is no cheap way of cutting steel. Laser like this will cost 10k-50k
Hi Bro,
How is the performance of these machines to cut and engrave clear and other types of Acrilic (without painting it black). We know that black Acrilic can be cut easily but how about cutting and engraving other colours?
Red, green, yellow works well, but they need more power or more passes for the same effect. Blue does not work well as it is the same color as the laser beam.
Great video
So which do you like better, the xToll D1 Pro or the Sculpfun Pro???
I have also reviewed the xtool D1 Pro 20W and 40W. YOu can watch all videos and decide which one is best for your type of work.
Obviously the sculpfun is the better machine but I was looking for stats and the Atom Stack comes out better on webpage and when I was having problems with my current Atomstack P7 they had a very good customer service how is the Sculpin customer service?
From my experience they are pretty good. They also have a very nice and active facebook group
Please test the Atezr P20 plus against these two lasers.
many greetings from Germany. I have not yet been able to decide which of those two devices I should order. You have made my decision easier. 🙂
Glad I could help!
Thanks very informative. Amazing how fast these are evolving now.
Hi, can I cut transparent ,gold or other color acrylic with this machine ?
Transparent and white definitely not. Blue also not very well. I have tested green, red, yellow and black with good results.
these machines are getting crazy
The development escalated very quickly in the last year!
Offline operation is a huge plus! When the unit is mounted in a location away from the design computer, sneaker netting a file to the laser makes life a lot simpler.
I have been very happy with my x20
Cual de las dos es mas rapida en el grabado?
great video , I'm on the purchase off one diod laser , one more choice in the pack.
thanks
Then you should definitely check my website 😉
Hi!
Have you tested the Sculpfun S30 Ultra 33W?
Many thanks for your great videos
Coming soon!
@@JTMakesIt looking forward to watching it. Cheers
Another great video made by you helped me choose between the X20 and the S30 pro max. Do you know which one I chose? I am delighted to watch all your movies. Regards
from Poland
Artur
Which one have you chose?
@@erhardr.3693 s30 pro max
@@arturf.2216 Satın aldınız mı
Wow il like the s30 pro max
Hi JT. Please give me some guidance on which laser engraver in this price range would be best suited to use for engraving photos on wood? Thanks.
Sculpfun S30 Pro Max or the xTool D1 Pro 20W (I also reviewed it)
@@JTMakesIt thanks, appreciate it.
A brilliant video and this has helped me decide on the S30 Pro Max. Can you recommend a cost-effective base for a laser this powerful?
Do you mean a honeycomb? Otherwise you put the laser on the table. It comes with a steel sheet for protecting the table.
@@JTMakesIt Thanks. I couldn't tell if it had a base with it or not.
great comparison.
I am new to burning and such, for around 500 what machine would you suggest that can cut well and do decent burning?
ruclips.net/video/OHDOBGLB4pU/видео.html
@@JTMakesIt what if i can get a s9 pro from a friend for 250 though? Is the s10 that much better? or could i get by with the s9? again I wanna do some cutting and burning for sure. Appreciate your quick response!
Great video JT!
It's a pleasure to watch your tests.
The Atomstack claims to have the laser spot of 0.08*0.1mm on their website instead of 0.2*0.15 in this video. Did they updated the machine recently?
I don't think so. There is usually quite a difference between advertisement and reality. So it sounds reasonable to me.
All machines I have tested so far have a larger focus spot than advertised. This is why I test this :) i think it could also vary from the machine to the machine.
Very impressive video. This comparison video help a lot for me to decide which one I really want to go for. Not too many people out there are making video like this so thanks gor all the efforts. Two thumbs up.
Hola tengo atomstack a 20 y tengo problemas con corte de mdf y contrachapado de 9 mm ya que el corte no lo hace bien o no lo hace cual es el problema que tengo para el corte agradesco tu respeuesta
Focus properly, find the right speed. If anything doesn't work, then the wood you have is not suitable
gracias por tu aporte
Awsome Review ! love your videos :D
Wow i like the ss stree chatting .. i think i can do some design from it .. whats the price of this machine
Check the video description
If you have any questions, you can contact me anytime
The protective lens is a neat feature. I wish all laser module adapted this as a laser module lenses can be easily be damage and brick easily than expected.
Anyway do you have any plan to cover the NEJE E40 Laser module? It will be an interesting comparison to the Sculpfun since it's claim to have a thinner and longer focus size. It's also have this weird temperature module adapter and air tube which is pretty interesting to check out.
I will check it out
wow amazing
Me encanto tu video y las pruebas bastante precisas, lo mejor es que no apoyaste a ninguna solo hiciste las pruebas y es decisión de los clientes decidir, excelente! Saludos
Thanks!
puedes decirme cuál fue mejor,no entiendo inglés y no lo traduce al español.
Great video!
The extension to get 900 by 900 for the sculpfun is that 2 sets
I think it should be separate set, but it is not for sale yet.
Damn
Want the complete set. 😁
Just wanted to say you make good videos. Did you by any chance also make a list of the focus spot size? can't find it on your website.
hobbylasercutters.com/sculpfun-s30-pro-max-vs-atomstack-a20-x20-pro/#anodized-aluminium-engraving--focus-spot-size-and-accuracy-test
@@JTMakesIt Thank you. But I meant a concise list of all the lasers you've tested so far. Received the Jinsoku LC-40 with the compresses laser last week and am quite disappointed. they promise 0.05*0.08 but I'm getting closer to 0.12*0.30.
@@matheokoning4456 Yeah, everyone advertises smaller spot than it really is. I don't have a single list, you need to check each individual review.
@@JTMakesIt Yes apparently. If it had been a little more it wouldn't be a big deal but almost 0.3 is very misleading if they advertise with 0.05*0.08
@@matheokoning4456 This is why I do these tests
I can't stand videos that use text to speech for all the voice work! 👎
You never know the author's reasons for using it. Some people have speech difficulties, or don't like the sound of their own voice, or maybe don't like having to record multiple takes to fix mistakes. Over time, the text to speech voices will continue to improve.
and.... Which one is the BEST laser engraver?
You should decide for yourself depending on what you want to do with it and what you saw in this video :)
Can you say if it is possible to engrave in Gold Materials? I mean jewerly, 18K...Thank you
No. Blue lasers can't engrave metals other than stainless steel. You need infrared laser for that: ruclips.net/video/clK4vajlSAc/видео.html
@@JTMakesIt Thanks a lot
How about mounting a laser cutter machine on the wall and try to make it work with a raspberry pi just like a 3d printer 😉
Good idea, but you are missing one axis :)