The Devil May Cry Iceberg Explained
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- Who knew there would be so much to say about the wacky woohoo pizza games?
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0:00 Intro
2:11 Vergil is Nero's Father
3:23 Inertia
4:48 Tony Redgrave
5:30 Bayonetta Connections
6:40 FEATURING
7:24 DMC3 Mission Numbers
8:03 Majin Devil Trigger
9:36 DMC4: Deadly Fortune
10:41 Visions of V and Before the Nightmare
11:34 "It's been nearly a year..."
12:30 Guard Flying
13:12 DMC3 Co-Op
14:10 Japanese Hard, Western Normal
16:12 Timeline Retcon
17:03 Gilver Canon?
19:22 Dante is Depressed
22:10 Everyone is Super Sentai
24:05 RangerStop 2015
25:27 DMC was RE4
26:37 Sparda's ACTUAL Sword
28:24 DMC: Pinnacle of Combat
30:39 DMC The Movie(s)
31:45 DMC in Viewtiful Joe
33:37 Lady May Cry
34:25 Sengoku Basara Stage Play
35:40 DMC5' Secret Park
36:24 The Canadian Comics
39:03 Hyne and Joker
40:06 Drama CDs
41:29 DMC1 Terra Sword
42:35 Trish in the Logo?
43:05 DMC2 Source Code Leak
44:30 The Musical
45:38 Keiji Inafune and DmC
49:01 Dominique Tereshkova
49:56 Who Directed Devil May Cry 2?
51:04 Devil May Cry Wii Prototype
52:12 The Java Trilogy
55:24 The Devil May Cry PSP Game
1:02:31 Outro
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Tom Holland: reveals minor detail about Spider-Man
Dan Southworth: reveals Devil May Cry 5, after years of radio silence from Capcom and a shitty reboot
Luckily he didn’t get in trouble because it was slightly played off as a joke.
reboot was pretty good. About 6-7/10 balls. I love it's music and visual style, but gameplay... actually better than 2018 God of War
@@kittenfrompicture i've played the reboot and i agree with that. Despite that awful story (Foxnews and CocaCola are spawn of satan + Mundus controls the world through IMF bank debt is just too much for me lmao), i like most of the visuals (the health bar in the street art grafitti style is a nice touch) and the gameplay is not as bad as i thought.
And yeah, i never played GoW 2018, but from all the gameplay i saw.......yeah this DMC Reboot somehow has a more engaging combat compared to GoW 2018
@@kittenfrompicture honestly yeah
Story wise GoW 2018 is better
But playstyle wise... Honestly the dmc reboot was a whole lot better
@@sarahboucher2517 000000000000000000
fun fact: the old director of dmc2 is solely responsible for the tonal shift in dante's personality cause he personally didnt like wiseass, joke cracking characters like dante
Well apparently, and this is just hearsay so take it with a grain of salt, DMC2 was supposed to be a different game, it would have supposedly been a sort of Tomb Raider clone. It’s possible that the original protagonist got turned into Dante or even Lucia was the original protagonist and a side character became Dante, although that’s just speculation.
It’s a good thing he’s alone in that opinion
Not fun didn't enjoy
Was his name Tameem Antoniades?
@@shun-li8204 nope it was Tsuyoshi Tanaka,the man that would also produced DMC3 and original Monster Hunter.And he's also the guy who suggest a diesel collab in DMC2.
My favourite quote from the Deadly Fortune translation:
„After the puppy is a fish... you are a beastmaster...“
~Dante
I’ve read this whole novel twice and I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. I’m really tempted to make my own translation though....
@@sarahboucher2517 My theory is, that during the fight against Agnus, when you play that uhrg dice game with Nero for a second time, Agnus sends basilisks and cutlasses after you. It might've got mixed up with Dante vs Agnus and the line is supposed to mean something like "first the puppies and now the fish? You are a beastmaster(?)!". But the translation is way better :D
@@WasserLemone ah! That makes more sense!! Thank you!
That’s the most Dante quote of all time
This is a passage I'm fond of from that terrible translation.
Agnus hates this woman. Originally, Agnus hated women as a creature, not to mention that Gloria was very exposed. The long skirt showed her chest, back and thighs. People couldn’t help but ask what kind of clothes they used. And this attitude of using himself as a woman as a weapon makes Agnus feel sick when he sees it.
Me: *sees a DMC iceberg video on my recomended and it's an hour long*
Also Me: "The time has come, and so have I."
The time has come, and so have I
The time has come, and so have I.
The time has come, and so have I.
@@primesuspect8567 the time has come, and so have I!
The time has come, and so have I.
"Devil May Cry 3D" is the embodiment of "We have Devil May Cry 3 at home"
I agree with 1up, Lady is a VERY WELL DESIGNED character
Yes, very well designed...
Especially in DMC4
Yep, in character and looks
@@idfkimaclown best Lady design
@@saulgoodmansfingerr8527 DMC5 Lady face + DMC4 Lady clothes and body = godtier Lady when
Figured I'd throw in a few pieces of trivia here, in case anyone's curious!
-Devil May Cry 1 was originally going to have quick-time events, but the dev team had to beg Kamiya not to include them due to already working to the bone on the game. (Source: Devil May Cry 3-1-4-2 Graphic Arts, Page 201)
-Daigo Ikeno, Capcom artist and character, enemy and stage designer for Devil May Cry 2, revealed several tidbits about the game's development: That it was mostly scrapped together through the staff of Capcom's Arcade Division, given the greenlight by Capcom before DMC1 had even finished production, and that the decision to make Dante more taciturn was due to the producer of the game not liking Dante's wisecracking personality in DMC1. (Source: Devil May Cry 3-1-4-2 Graphic Arts, Page 204)
-The Devil May Cry 3-1-4-2 Art Book was re-released in Japan a few months prior to DMC5's release. It was updated to include DMC4SE artwork and some concept art from DMC5, as well as the inclusion of crossover content from the last few years, such as Dante's appearance in Marvel VS Capcom Infinite, and his costume in Monster Hunter World in the "Extras" section, and some new interviews. It was released a few weeks prior to Capcom officially changing the timeline's order to 3-1-2-4. The original printing of the book was also recently rereleased in a hardcover form. (Source: www.amazon.co.uk/Devil-Book-Graphic-Japanese-Version/dp/4862464351)
-A playable version of Vergil was found in the base version of Devil May Cry 5 shortly after release. It was only the boss version with the Yamato moveset, and Matt Walker would later go on to confirm that this was left in the game for testing the boss moveset (Source: www.siliconera.com/capcoms-matt-walker-talks-about-devil-may-cry-5-vergil-lady-and-trish-dmc5se/)
-Other features found in the files included an unused taunt for Nero (Source: ruclips.net/video/bXrWMaGZ3ng/видео.html), an unfinished version of Vergil's World Of V; called "Kiss Of Death" (Sources: ruclips.net/video/35d8S5gHv0k/видео.html and devilmaycry.fandom.com/wiki/Removed_content#Moves), Clear Artwork for the Dante battle in Mission 20 (Source: ruclips.net/video/w8O8Hk7MfdE/видео.html), and text files relating to, among other things, Nero's Deluxe Edition Breakers, the Super Costumes for Dante, Nero and V, items relating to Goliath, Artemis, Geryon and Gilgamesh that are otherwise acquired via cutscenes, and text for an unused Co-Op Bloody Palace Mode. (Source: devilmaycry.fandom.com/wiki/Removed_content#Files)
-In addition to various gameplay tweaks, DmC Definitive Edition changed several cutscenes. (All sources will be via this video: ruclips.net/video/jloVwdf9aNc/видео.html) Examples include, but might not be limited to:
-The shortening of Lillith's "The world is at last your bitch, as am I," line. The original version had her continue with; "Nothing left but to grab it by the hair, bend it over and fu-," before she's cut off by Mundus. (1:40)
-Perhaps the most well known, the removal of Vergil's fedora in the Mission 2 cutscenes (20:03)
-A new cutscene prior to Mission 16 was added (2:08:25)
-Rather than zooming in onto Dante's demonic eyes, the final shot of the game has Dante and Kat walk away before Dante grabs Kat's ass. (2:45:27)
-The manual of DMC2 includes mention of Easy Automatic Mode, in spite of it not actually being in the game. (Source: Devil May Cry 2 Manual, Page 16)
-Speaking of DMC2's source code, when the leak dropped, people went through in an attempt to modify parts of the game, only to find out changing even one value of the code causes the game to not start at all. So much for modding it into something better. (Source: arch.b4k.co/v/thread/534659332/#534665835)
-The infamous "dark soul with liiiight" line from DMC1 actually had multiple takes done of it. The chosen take was picked by Kamiya himself as he felt the voice crack made the scene more emotional. (Source: ruclips.net/video/OrPHNvgncpI/видео.html)
That DmC cutscene where he grabbed kats ass made me cringe so hard. Would've really preferred they just had the original cutscene or just had them walking away.
@@tobykassulke2385 same
I'm actually a bit surprised about the DMC 2 source code. I heard development was messy, but I had no clue the source code was that unstable.
@@KnoxCarbon I really wished dmc 4 was finished, the game literally could be amazing
@@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099 Im so glad, lady and dante are only friends
Oh shit, he actually does know what sex is.
Absolute chad in the end.
Incorrect impossible inconceivable
Demonic p-p-propaganda! SEX DOES NOT EXIST!
na- nani? bakana!
in the manga he cant do it cuz of trauma lol
He may know but he never had any
Wouldve been cool to mention that in exchange for Dante being in SMT Nocturne, Kazuma Kaneko, the artist for the Megami Tensei franchise, designed the Devil Triggers from DMC 3, its why he's credited in every game where they use Dante's DMC 3 design like Marvel vs Capcom n shit.
Hee ho
I’m surprised you didn’t mention that “Majin” translates to English as “devil”. So Majin Devil Trigger means Devil Devil Trigger.
I love when shit like that happens because it’s so funny. Like how Los Angeles has a baseball team called The Angels. Los Angeles is spanish, and when translated the team name is “The Angels Angels”.
Or furthermore- Devil may cry: Devil may cry
The Los Angeles Angels
The The Angels Angels?
Not really. Maji/magi is the root word for Majin. It's the same word that gives us Magician/Wizard.
that mobile dmc 3d game looked cute tho lol
I played it it was fun for what it was
A 3D Java mobile game is impressive as hell too
*Fun fact:* When Itsuno arrived in DMC2 production, he asked the team what they had done, and they only had (that weak ass) stinger move done.
Rumors says the team originally wanted a Tomb Raider clone when creating the "original DMC2", which explains the gameplay mechanics and Lucia as MC. When Capcom demanded a DMC sequel, the game turned into DMC and Capcom placed the unknown director in it, which infuriated Kamiya.
The old Devil May Cry books now being Canon makes DMC way more insane
The one with Gilver and that?
Another dmc light novel was the one before 2 which had Dante going to another universe and teaming up with Vergil's army against Mundus
That settles the argument of whether Dante is a virgin (actual argument in a comment section) as if the DMC1 novel is canon, he had kids.
@@bladedgambit3158 Which one is that?
@@yapflipthegrunt4687 Wonder if that means ether why he’s always in debt, or if that means Vergil’s a better father than Dante 😅
Damn no one seems to know about the Vergil clone created by mundus that’s just chilling somewhere in the dmc universe
Because associating that idea with ‘clone’ isn’t worth thinking about to most people.
The clone idea is stupidly complicated, considering Dante hadn’t run back into Vergil by that point, why would Mundus have the ability to clone Vergil when he didn’t have Vergil, and why Vergil at that point, and a final why, why would that be associated with Vergil and not as a ‘clone of Dante’ that would have actually made some sense in the clone idea.
Also, again, Dante thought Vergil was dead before running into him in prequel events just before DMC 3, so how on earth would he recognize and grown up version of his brother? They were kids were they separated, they hadn’t even gone through puberty, people tend to change drastically between cute little kids and grown up adults, even with them been teens then, I’m just saying, he wouldn’t have been able to identify Vergil based solely on his looks.
Writing all of that off as a clone just turns it into an annoying mess.
Besides, it’s more fun to think of Vergil as a lightweight by canon, that his idea of a ‘perfect disguise’ was to wrap his head full of bandages. I think that, save the one, horrible incident (stupidest argument I heard for clone was “Nuuuuu Vergil CAN’T be Gilver because Dante would never forgive him for Nell!!” Like…. He just killed quite a lot of people with that tree, and who knows who else with that tower…. But the gunsmith…. that’s what would have crossed the line???) Gilver would actually team with Dante for the jobs before revealing his master plan.
It flows a bit better than “clone cuz clone” at least. Could much easily be explained by he made a one time deal, in yet another desperate search for power, than how and why they would have made a clone.
Also Majin DT appear in DMC3 manga, when Alice is draining Dante's power, he goes majin devil trigger.
1:47
As someone named Alex that shit fucking gave me a heart attack.
Same hahaha
Same. It’s the middle of the night I had to check the comments to not freak out
Same
@@Djamp_htx same here smh
Same
Surprised there isnt a part about the Devil May Cry Netflix anime. Wonder if that's in development Hell?
I'd put that one on a bonus iceberg. I considered it for this one but I'm not sure what there is to say. It isn't an old enough announcement to be vaporware, and I haven't heard anything about the production. Maybe it could still happen? Who knows.
I've heard rumors that capcom is having trouble with the casting because Netflix wants a different voice for Dante
@@billyboleson2830 🤨
@@billyboleson2830 imagine having the balls to tell capcom you want someone other than Reuben Langdon to voice Dante. So fucking stupid. I don't want to see anyone Voice him but Reuben
@@gensteps923 yeah that's really stupid " hey let's change something about a iconic character because it worked so well the last time we tried to change him just like with Frank West" like wtf they want people to watch it right?
13 year old me was a badass. Beat DMC3 and just found out there was an easy mode.
I thought I was a badass until I realized I grew up on the Special Edition, where the difficulties are fixed. What’s even worse is I still died a lot lol
@@southofheck SAME 🤣
The easy mode is just there to mock you. Don't get too excited
played this on a shitty laptop in a ps2 emulator cuz the pc version was laggy asf
I got my ass kicked by curbueuse
Damn...you know you're insanely deep in a fandom when you know 95% of the iceberg list already.
I'm late, but
Tony Redgrave also appeared in the DmC reboot as a achievement after you kill lots of demons with guns.
Just thought that in DMC5, The 'Sin' in SDT makes a lot of sense as Vergil and Dante both had to essentially try to kill themselves with their weapons, and the "sinful" act of suicide places you in the 7th Circle of Hell where your soul becomes a gnarled tree making up a huge forest, and since the Qliphoth is a giant demonic metaphor for the Sparda family tree you battle your way around, up, and back down again..? Might have just talked myself out of this vague connection actually XD
A few other miscellaneous theories,
I remember one theory floating around before DMC5 launched was that Kryie was pregnant and that was the reason they didn't show her in game model before the game's release. Doesn't hold up very well since we never see her anyway but I still think it's a possibility.
Berial (DMC4 boss) being Mundus' son. I don't remember any actual evidence but multiple other people I've talked to have at least heard this theory.
Nero's "Fuck you" and Dante saying "Think you can beat me? Not in a million years" during Vergil's fights in DMC5 are jabs at DmC.
Arkham was a librarian in Fortuna which is where he meets Vergil before DMC3. This explains Arkham's knowledge of Sparda and ties Vergil's opening scenes from 3 and 4 together.
Olives. I think it's in one of the novels that says Dante exclusively orders his pizzas with pepperoni and olives despite actively disliking them.
Vergil's having Beowulf in DMC5 is canon. It's been stated that Dante always sells his devil arms after a mission and that's why he doesn't have them in the next game. During Vergil's years after being Nelo Angelo he actively sought out his old weapons and managed to find Beowulf. He then reclaimed Yamato at the beginning of 5 but was never able to reclaim Sparda obviously because it was in the possession of Dante and Trish. This is why he uses the Mirage Edge instead.
Along with the last one, Before the Nightmare shows Trish using the Artemis against Urizen, which is why it's kind of weird that Lady ends up as Artemis' power source instead.
Berial being connected is peak head Canon. Maybe if the game was finished we would have gotten more info
@@billyboleson2830 maybe if the game was finished or if they actually did something in the Special Edition, I wouldn't have to hold myself back from destorying a laptop
*Sees the ammount of adds in the video*
"LET'S FUCKIN' GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-"
33:05 that line is an Easter egg for the ending cutscene when you beat DMD in DMC1, right when Dante and Beatrice (Trish) escape Île Mallet on that biplane. It surprised me as well after just barely beating DMD --with-- using over one hundred yellow orbs, over ten Untouchables, and a whole bunch of patience. Protip: holy waters are broken
"As far as DMC3 was concerned, he said you don't even have to explicitly say it's a parallel world."
So...is this another hint that Kamiya only cares about the DMC canon he made?
What a beast of a video.
Although I am a casual DmC fan, I'm surprised I didn't know like 95% of these things. Not that I'm complaining, it's really interesting to see these games and the game's universe in a new perspective. Great job, Spartan. I hope more people will see this.
Thank you!
Same here and that's cause i played the game series for the first time with DMC3 the American release that had that insanely hard difficulty 😂
"How do you pronounce Hyne?"
I'd pronounce it as Hine, a single syllable word.
Or maybe pronounce it like “HEE-ney” or “HEE-NEE”.
HI-NE duhhh
ひね
For anyone interested on the other ways the Sengoku Basara franchise met with Devil May Cry, here's a little fun fact list
-SB has a history of joke weapons and additional silly costumes being obtainable throughout the game ; in Sengoku Basara 4 Masamune can wear a Dante costume as mentionned in the video, and in Sengoku Basara the first™ his joke weapon is suspiciously looking like a DMC sword
-Katakura Kojuro, Masamune's retainer, is voiced by the same VA as Dante in japanese
-Character designer Makoto Tsuchibayashi worked on the first Devil May Cry game as well as Sengoku Basara first three main games and I would def recommand checking out his concept arts bc they look sick
-DMC 4 producer, Hiroyuki Kobayashi, also produced almost all the games from the Sengoku Basara franchise, the only exception being the very last one, Yukimura-den
Sengoku Basara is a bigger franchise in Japan that it is in western countries, with only two games localized, and only one of those two (Sengoku Basara Samurai Heroes) with the original names and with no gameplay alteration
Footage in the video is from Sengoku Basara Samurai Heroes (or Sengoku Basara 3)
Seeing translations of DMC4 light novels makes me feel like I'm playing am H game
I can imagine Gilver returning and acting as kind of a rival in a future DMC game. Especially if the whole demon replica thing is true. Imagine a Vergil focused DMC where he's stalked by his twisted mirror image. Shit sounds sweet.
nero being vergil's son is as much of a plot twist as revealing that buzz is a toy and not a space ranger.
I have a feeling that, If the Devil Sword Dante and Yamato does fuse together then Nero is going to be the one who will wield it since both brothers has to give up both of their swords and powers, just to craft the most powerful sword in the entire universe. Most likely to be used against the new form of Mundus or some other powerful demon we haven't heard about. DMC6 anyone?
Weirdly, I've never really internalized Vergil being Nero's father until DMC 5 confirmed it because it seemed such a hackneyed idea to me, especially since it came out of nowhere and wasn't expanded upon in DMC 4.
Some people did the math on Vergils and Neros age and the implications just seem out of tone with DMC. At least DMC5 did something with it, so all's well that ends well I guess.
What did the math come out to? What, was he like 15-17?
If so, I mean, he was a kid when he was left alone. He didn’t get advantage of guidance, so it wouldn’t surprise me if it happened like that.
@@Norinia Vergil was 18 during the DMC3 manga, he was probably the same age when he visited Fortuna City and hooked up with that lady.
Very interesting video and very well researched. Did you think of adding the similarly rumored Dante in Soul Calibur 3? it seems because his inclussion in SMT3 it was popular to guess Dante would be added to whatever random game on the PS2 era.
This is an interesting comment. I did consider for a second talking about that, but Stumblebee made such an excellent video debunking that rumor that I thought "Why bother". I probably should have at least brought it up for a second and linked that video though; I know there are still people that believe the rumor.
I don't know if you're still interested, but in regards to Gilver, what the wiki says is basically true. In the Before the Nightmare novel, it's stated that Mundus took battle data from Sparda, Dante, and Vergil to make "Black Knights" that wore armor made by Machiavelli, and sent them after Dante and Vergil. However, it's never said outright that this was Gilver. It's just implied since Gilver was stated to be wearing armor in the DMC1 novel, and would explain the Vergil similarities. It's really just the only thing that makes sense and fits with canon since Gilver is somewhat still seemingly implied to have existed. The implication comes from Morrison reminiscing about the events of the DMC1 novel in his first respective chapter of the BTN novel. This includes everything Gilver did, even if again, Gilver is never directly named.
It's possible that it's not outright stated to be Gilver because of the perspective we get in this section of the novel. This is in the Trish chapter of the novel, and since Trish didn't exist at this point in time, and therefore wasn't involved, it makes sense that she would only have general knowledge. As for why Morrison never named Gilver, Morrison never knew Gilver was behind things. He wasn't present for most of the Gilver related incidents, so it again makes a sort of sense that he wouldn't name him. Still, it's all vague enough that if you *really* wanted to argue against this, you could.
To source all this, you can read the summery of the Trish chapter here:
drive.google.com/file/d/1sehBInbkahYDqQ3NzV3nyHPKljIdLysp/view
or read this broken translation of the novel here:
ia801006.us.archive.org/25/items/cr4theoriginaldevilmaycry/Devil%20May%20Cry%205%20-%20Before%20The%20Nightmare%20-%20EN.pdf
It's easiest to just CRTL+F Trish's name to find the chapter.
Also, while it's not like you asked for it, there's a small fact about the location of Dante's office that could be fun to add that I haven't seen talked about anywhere else except in a reddit post from back in December. In the DMC5 art book (Japanese release only), there's an image of the deed to Dante's office. This deed has Tony Redgrave's name on it, and implies that the office is located in Redgrave.
This location gets a little weird when you think about it though, so personally idk if it should be taken as canon.
Here's the link to the reddit post: www.reddit.com/r/DevilMayCry/comments/jfma3r/in_the_dmc5_art_book_theres_this_piece_of_concept/
but if you wanted to double check for yourself, you can download the artbook and look at page 312 here (though the legality of that is mmm): originaldmc.github.io/DivinityStatue/Downloads.html
Also fun is that this artbook has further proof that Dante pawns off his weapons to Enzo as there's three pawn tickets in there.
@@Adroit_Maelstrom That's really cool. Thank you for your comments. I'll be looking over this stuff.
@@UtterSpartan Of course! And I forgot to say it but nice vid! I love stuff like this, and I remember looking for one of these vids a couple months ago. Was disappointed that there wasn't one, but now there is! Glad to see someone tackled it, and did such a good job with it. Really appreciate that you actually took the time to properly research all this stuff, and then bothered to cite your stuff. Shows you care.
@@Adroit_Maelstrom Thank you!
*sees 900 ads*
“Eh, this guy deserves the revenue”
I did not know I wanted this video but boy am I glad that the youtube recs got me here. Watched this in one go, super well researched and highly entertaining.
The pachinko OSTs are godlike
And something I like to always say about the DMC movie is that it already exists. Versus 2000 was a movie that apparently helped inspire Dantes character but Ive yet to see a source to confirm this, the movie itself is amazing and its basically the best live action DMC movie we will ever get. Also Inafune is responsible for doing the same fk Ninja Gaiden as well, and apparently DMC2 being a Lucia game at first I find interesting
Another fun tidbit about that; Yûji Shimomura, the cutscene director for DMC3, 4 and 5, was also the action director for Versus, so that's got a lot to do with why it feels so DMC.
@@Sonicfan4467 and he would also do MGS: The Twin Snakes.
Always wondered why it felt more like a DMC game.
Iirc the director of Versus also did Godzilla Final Wars
Thanks for making such a great video! It is so cool to get to know so many of these things and to see you mention so many that I got to experience over the years! Anyway, I'll be looking forward for more videos like this!
21:33 it's kinda crazy how that's the only time we ever saw Dante with alcohol in his hand, like not even the games showing Dante gets drunk
Yeah you’re right. Always has bottles of whiskey all over the place though I’d never seen him drink…ate plenty of pizza though!
@@frankreynolds4413 yeah, i always thought that Dante is more of "Smoking and Alcohol ain't cool, kids"-types of guy so seeing him in a more depressed state is shocking (to me at least)
@@ShatteredGlass916 the way i see it is he just has a glass every day or something like that
he doesn't smoke for sure tho, Kamiya specifically said that he designed to be a character "too cool to smoke"
Thank you for calling out Jojo Wifi. He and RandomBlackGamer have been a plague on RUclips for DMC "content", given that they feel the need to make entire videos covering a sentence that someone from Capcom uttered offhandedly, or some random message a DMC fan dropped, and then spin speculation on it like it's monumental in the future of DMC projects and lore. Typically their videos begin by repeating the title of their video, followed by begging for followers and ways for them to earn money, then spending a few minutes talking about whatever the subject is with absolutely zero credible proof or sources on the matter.
If they want to talk about their own personal ideas, that's perfectly fine. But they need to stop dressing it up as breaking news or confirmations from official sources when it couldn't be farther from that.
Still waiting for that crazy Netflix berserk adaptation RandomBlackGamer
Dante: Wohoo, yeah! Crazy...
Depressed Dante: ...crazy how I still havent ended it all.
Maybe that’s why he keep buying pizza and milkshakes it’s the only thing that gave him happiness back then
What a great video I see! Thank you for this,there's very few people who talk of Devil May Cry beside the gameplay. Good job, king.
hey I've been meaning to comment on this video for like a week; this is a really well made video! It flows really well, from what I can tell you did a lot of research into the topics, and I especially like how the layers are all style rankings. I love when media does that!
Incredibly well put together video and I'm very happy that you linked all of the sources so I can go down a seperate rabbit hole on my own
Found this by chance in my recommendations and this was awesome!! Good job with all that research!!
Huge, Mundus-sized missed opportunity to call it the "Devil May Criceberg"
That Ninja Theory PowerPoint presentation will never not be funny.
Curious enough, i'm from LATAM and in the spanish text of DMC5, "Sin Devil Trigger" is translated to "Devil Trigger Real", so for LATAM we call it "True Devil Trigger". I think that it was a detail worth mentioning after seeing the video
At least Dante proposed to something... even if it was just a mop. Lookin’ at you, *Vergil.*
Cool video, covered a lot of great stuff on here. Also that translation for Deadly Fortune is amazing, I never read either of those.
One other notes about the difficulty change in 3 though is that is apparently wasn’t even the first time they did that. In DMC1 on PS2 in the west on normal and hard you did 20% less damage and took 20% more damage on all difficulties. I didn’t know about that until very recently so it’s interesting how we got the harder version of these games twice. Also DMC3 vanilla here didn’t even have the good grace to give you any yellow orbs when you started like 1 did, you had to buy them all.
Also I had no idea there was so little info about the PSP game. I legitimately thought the whole Dance Of Sparda subtitle was true so thanks for debunking it.
Yeah about that Sparda True sword, its kinda explains how sparda died, his power was only a third of his full power, maybe he died warding of the first Mundus wave of demons, the second one cost eva.
i hope if DMC 6 ever happenned they will dig deeper into that, maybe involve Nero via time travel or something, Maybe meeting Nero will trigger Sparda interest in modern weaponry by seeing this strange fella with robot arm and a magnum hence creating Luce & Ombra.
It was a really great video thanks for that i didnt know an iceberg video could be made about DMC, theres a lot of content i didnt know it was fascinating
I checked out the first bit of that play. It was actually kinda sick how they were showing off Royal guard and judgement cuts on stage
RIP the Vergil actor
Interesting thing to note about the "Majin" form is that the naming convention wouldn't even make sense in the Japanese version, as Devil Trigger is called Majin (as that literally means demon).
Great video! Also, 33:05 not exactly a new line. It's a cut down version of the line Dante says when you beat the first Devil May Cry on DMD mode. I'm surprised that's not on the iceberg, not a lot of people know about it since you'd normally skip the cutscenes
Awesome video dude. Love me some hour long dmc content.
Kinda feel like if we delve into that dmc2 source code we might find the original director or at least some interesting stuff about how the game was developed.
Fun fact: if you dig around forums where programmers talk about J2ME emulation DMC 3D is usually brought up because of how hard it is to emulate, I think only recently someone managed to get the graphics running properly.
Also the odd mission structure was just the approach Capcom had at that time when adapting games to phones, Resident Evil the Missions 3D is very similar.
That's some cool info. Appreciate it. Do you have any links to where I could find them talking about this game?
@@UtterSpartan it wasn't so much as talking about the game itself as it was asking if someone got DMC 3D or the Fishlabs' Abyss engine games running properly, as they used a not so common approach to the Mascot Capsule 3D implementation that's not particularly well documented. I'm not an expert in the subject, I just took a dive in reading about it one day about a year or two ago because I was curious about why some of the 3D J2ME games didn't run in any of the two or three good emulators out there.
I started researching it because I remembered playing DMC 3D back in the day and wanted to see if the game was as awkward to play as I remembered.
BTW I have no links to the discussions, I didn't bother to save them at the time, my mistake.
glad to see you throw in a shout out to Woolie and the Super Best friends, their DMC3 & 4 Lps are the ones I replay the most XD
It's time for your channel to blow up in subscriber count. You videos are awesome.
The proposed DS version of the surely nonexistent Dance of Sparda is probably in reference to the initials of the game being "DS". Capcom did this before with Resident Evil Deadly Silence, a DS remake of Resident Evil 1.
Dance of Sparda was clearly a dancing side game for the series in the vein of persona 4 dancing all night.
Why'd you think that
Amazing effort, you done a ton of research for this video!
Great video as someone who's getting into the DMC series/fandom this was a fun watch.
>mentions Keiji Inafune
>puts X6 music when talking about DmC
you absolutely KNEW what you were doing
Good video, gameplay related topics were a bit bare which is honestly what needs the spotlight the most but other than that well done.
Heads up about Jojo Wifi though. He's been known to harass other members of the DMC community. Him and John Fleer have practically made a business off posting clickbait videos with distinctly false information like what you said about his video on the Sparda PSP game but that's not the only one. They've also publicly attacked and insulted community members and DMC5 modders blaming them for 5SE not getting a PC release. They both have very defensive fanbases and use them aggressively to dox and spam anyone who called them out on their BS.
During my research I came across a number of things that I didn't include on this iceberg. This is my first video over an hour and tbh it felt like it would take forever while I was making it.
But with all that extra info I was thinking about making a bonus iceberg of sorts. And I would definitely try to fit in more gameplay info. Thanks for the feedback.
As for Jojo Wifi, I knew next to nothing about him to be straight. I mostly saw his videos come up while I was researching the Pinnacle of Combat game. I haven't seen much from him besides those and the Sparda video of course. From an outsider's view he looked decently professional. It isn't easy to make motion graphics, keep up an upload schedule, and make it all look consistent. Not to mention focusing on limited topics can be exhausting in a way (that might be just me). A lot of his videos looked click-baity, but if the info is legit it doesn't really bother me. After what I saw though I don't currently trust him to be factual. I've since looked at a few John Fleer videos and I think everything I just said applies there too. Looks nice; but slim on facts.
If what you're saying about him and Fleer is true, that's a damn shame. There seems to be a lack of Devil May Cry "discussion" channels. Which sucks because I do think there is actually stuff worth talking about. I hope I was able to demonstrate that in this video. Jojo Wifi and John Fleer seem to be like the big names so if they're harassing people then that definitely doesn't make me feel good.
However, I don't really have an interest in canceling anybody. If I had the opportunity to talk to them, I'd want nothing more than to be cordial. My primary concern is keeping misinformation from spreading, and if they can clean that up then I'll be happy. I mostly just want to focus on my own videos. Thanks for informing me.
@@UtterSpartan Yeah wasn't saying you should cancel him just saying to be careful cause he has done that and probably will again.
As for some Discussion channels, Millz does a podcast talking with several well known high level players in the DMC community. VashTSB hasn't been active for awhile on youtube but he's also a really chill guy and knows his DMC. DelusionaryKiller has also put out several combo videos, tutorials and explanations behind mechanics in the games and a really detailed video on why the lack of Inertia and Reversals hurts DMC5 in the long run.
Love the iceberg breakdown, especially the info about the other material I haven't read on before. 👍 Random question: What kind of storyline would you like to see for the franchise? A Sparda spin-off/prequel? (I'd love that, personally.) A continuation? Etc.?
Was waiting for someone to make this thank you :)
Bro. I watched this entire video presuming it was a big but niche channel like super eyepatch wolf.
With great surprise I reached the end and saw your subscriber count and I was shocked! I will share this with everyone, you deserve to be known!
39:40
Unconfirmed, like you said, but just to make it an even safer guess:
The achievement you get for defeating Arkham in the HD Collection version of 3, is called "Asylum".
aw damn, beat me to the punch! I was planning on making one of these myself, but I guess I was too late lol. amazing job though man!
30:00 I'll be waiting for you to *сum*
Man, wise words... 😔
So happy i found a dmc iceberg!!! Been waiting forever for it
Finally, an iceberg i care about! great video!
"Gilver is Nelo's clone" was briefly mentioned in Before the Nightmare, though it's confusing even there
I powered through all the adds to watch this video, I followed this Saga since 2007 after I discovered DMC3 and still found such good information, man I still remember how hard was to find anything about the game with the then limits of the internet so getting all of it in just one nice video is awesome, amazing work, BTW DMC2 novel is lie, we all know Dante is a 40 year old virgin, Vergil is the real Chad here
I would adore a Prequel game based around Sparda and the whole War, maybe even some references to Bayo with Eva as an Umbra Witch and such, maybe even with said Eva playable, a nice mix of how Trish, Bayo or Dante play.
You're inspiring me to do one of these about Quake 1, great video dude.
Thanks. I'd love to hear more about deep Quake knowledge. I've played the original a ton but I admit I know very little about it in comparison to Doom.
Fun Fact one of the writers for DMC did Kamen Rider Noboru Sugimura , he pass away in the mid 2000'S
I'm glad I clicked on this because I didn't know about the optional player Co-Op during the doopleganger ability or Arkham fight with Vergil, until I saw this.
Though to be fair I could've learned it from Matt, Pat, and Woolie's let's play video. But since I haven't beaten Nevan yet, I didn't want spoilers.
Yes you "Alex"
Me, sitting in a lawn chair spitting out my soda "GHW-"
Well, that last part isn't out of character for Jojo Wifi. He loves to spread misinformation, and has been stealing content from community members for a long time. To the point that people legitimately put warnings and watermarks calling him out on it. Hitchhiker is responsible for making some of the most popular DMC5 mods out there and he's personally barred Jojo Wifi from putting footage of them on his channel. Trust me, he's well known.
I'm actually kinda surprised there hasn't been a prequel where Sparda is the main character and we play through the backstory we know+ the reason why a demon wants to protect the humans. Ofc because of Eva but how did they meet? Stuff like that.
Just seems like easy money to me haha
Thanks for the info..Didn't know that there were hidden gems in the dmc iceberg
6:49 thanks for coming back for me man. Had no clue lol
I was hoping that the WII DMC would've been a prototype with motion controls. That would've been so cool
Bruh vergil is neros father and yet they look the same age lmao. In fact it seems dantes the only one who actually looks older
I think his age was preserved due to dying and coming back so often or something
I’ve played all of 1,3,4,5 most of 2 and just a little bit of the reboot. I’m ready to watch
Honestly since you've mentioned Dante been depressed over losing Vergil hit hard but im glad Dante and Vergil are together now so neither are alone anymore
Really really great video! Love from Italy.
I've dreamt of this video for a little while and I randomly found this while rewatching your Doom videos.
Whole ass hour when u can summarize dmc in 1 word
Get good kid
I remember getting majin devil trigger by accident in dmc2 against those damn heads
But I could’ve sworn I activated it against Mundas too in Dmc1, activating it the same way as in dmc 2
45:48 oh trust me, reading up gaming histories and trivias was like, how I would spend most of my free time as a kid.
I can't imagine that in a Devil May Cry Iceberg I would discover why Dreamwave have ended up
One thing I remember about the DMC PSP game the original idea it was going to be a game about the legendary Dark Knight Sparta
22:50 - Oh hey, he was one of my faves in Jungle Fury.
In a Devil May Cry 3 Previz video Reuben Langdon uploaded on his RUclips, he listed Adam D Clerk as Hyne/Joker
That wii footage hurts my elbow just looking at it
Rather than Dante, electing to go to demon world with Vergil, is that Vergil went WITH Dante. Dante went cause he knows what havoc demons with wreck in human world when they run rampart. Vergil on the other hand went with Dante because of what he experienced himself in demon world so he goes there to protect his little brother. Vergil once said that he needs more power in order to protect himself from what happened once. And what happened was that his family was wiped out. He also though that they are dead, he just wasn't lucky enough to be found by Morrison like person. Vergil deeply cares about his brother, far more than Dante ever cared for him. In dmc3 he had many opportunities to kill Dante yet he still didn't. That's only because he wanted to protect him. With Vergil comeback now reuniting with his son, and about to meet his grandchild, we can expect nothing more than ultra fast Kratos style transformation from abandoned broken man into family loving man.