At this point , wouldn't vergil just be walking around aimlessly while his body is slowly decaying like it was implied that this was all he did ever since dmc 1 ?
...I'm pretty nero should be dead based on where his head pops out... The sword literally hit his skull. Demon blood or not, dante can't stand Yamato damage, so neither can nero...
@@pedroportela6476 My personal headcanon is that after the events of DMC1 Vergil (now released from his Nelo Angelo form) was stuck in Hell and wandered around there, constantly battling, not getting a moment of rest, to the point that his body started to break apart. He didn't have the Yamato, so most of his fights were with either his fists or improvised weapons, constantly relying on his Devil Trigger to the point that his human side couldn't handle anymore. Since he didn't have the Yamato, he couldn't get out either by using its portal powers... Then, in DMC4, they use the Yamato to open the Hell Gate and Vergil senses this. He manages to escape Hell through one of the Hell Gates and looks for the Yamato, but in the chaos (and with his body being at its limit) he can't find it in time. He wanders around on foot, his connection to the Yamato basically acting as a beacon, and being driven by his sole purpose to regain his strength. His human body can't handle it anymore and breaks apart (which is why he looks like a half-Thanos snapped husk when we see him in DMC5) and just when he's about to die, Nero isn't on a mission, at home, taking care of the DMC Mobile Unit Van, and Vergil can reclaim his weapon and save himself. It mirrors the lyrics in "Bury the Light", which goes over Vergil's journey from the end of DMC3 all the way to DMC5 (and potentially beyond).
@@MercuryAlphaInc Wow we have the same theory as well, probably yours are more flesh out and much better with you mentioned Vergil able to go to the human world by sensing his Yamato being used for opening portal. Cool story bro.
@@tylerself9198 well Virgil is Nero's Father and all so having Virgil's demonic blood in Nero's veins makes sense for that "father like son" or whatever the quote was.
Nero: CAN YOU PLEASE TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY!? Dante: Well, since you asked so nicely; ROYAL GUARD! Nero: *Swings Red Queen* Did he just say... Spherehunter: *Gasp* ROYAL GUARD! Wait, Royal Guard... Dante: *Parries* Spherehunter and Nero: OH SHIT!
Developing games must have been a lot harder back then. Back in the day, game graphics and the technologies used were changing pretty fast. The graphical changes from ps1 to ps2 to ps3 were insane. So Capcom must have spent a lot of money catching up to the newest stuff. Resident Evil 5 came out a year after DMC 4. It looked amazing for the time, although it was incredibly boring compared to the previous entry. So that must have been so much money down the drain. I'm just glad that today there are way cheaper and faster tools to make games. A small group of people can develop amazing games with cheap tools. Which is why we see so many indie companies bringing better games than the giants that existed for decades.
@@DatLazyBoi RE4 set a really high standard before. The game does look cool, has great graphics and a nice initial setup. But it kind of feel a bit underwhelming when compared to the fourth. Just my feeling about the game.
After hearing "Dante, Will we meet again?" And having "DMC" released... I feared Devil May Cry was dead forever... Devil May Cry 5 was a fucking blessing, God I love this franchise
@@wanderingmarshadow Not really, they added a few nods but nothing substantial from DmC was added, the gameplay was nothing like it and a continuation of 4, the story's closest nod was just giving Vergil Doppleganger but even that works differently, then you've got close ups for a final kill. A lot of elements would be things that would substantially change the game experience if they were missing, and those little details, really wouldn't.
@@mustang4636 well, patty's 18 in dmc5, and dante met her when she was like 11 or something, meaning if anyone would have his personal number, it'd be her or morrison...Notice how patty called the rotary phone that dante has on the front counter? im p sure thats his actual phone which is so dante
Me: *standing in front of big ben* Also me:*walks away from poster revealing I am on a island* Me again: it appeared I was some where I actually am not that is thanks to the power of nord vpn (Idk why I made this)
There's actually a book that takes place after dmc4. Basically, Nero opens his own devil hunting shop and dante shows his support by sending a copy of the Devil May Cry sign above his shop. I really like how Dante and Nero kept interacting between DMC 4 and DMC 5
@@gordonfeetman445Idk what he's talking about, but the Visions of V manga, takes place before and during DMCV, from V's perspective. It gives SO much context to characters, like how Nero lives before the game, what happens directly after the first cutscene, and what goes through V's thoughts during the game. The manga turned V from a weird story gimmick, to one of my favorite characters, and what made Vergil my favorite character in basically all of fiction
@Z390 Funnily enough, the end scene with Lady even points out that their pay got heavily docked because things wouldn't have escalated to this level if it wasn't for Trish handing them what they needed on a platter lol. For the second point, the order already had Yamato. They only lost it because Nero absorbed it remember.
I read long ago that Nero was meant to absorb each demon boss' soul into his devil bringer to give him new weapons and move sets like his devil breakers in DMC5. Like the Yamato appears on his right hand? Berial's sword would appear like a Buster sword with heavier hits and give Nero fire damage. And Dante was definitely meant to have his own bosses names after the devils arms he acquires. Story wise a lot of what ended up in the novels, was meant to be in the game, like more background on Nero, and the Vergil's son revelation was supposed to have more scenes where Dante gives Nero his own Neon sign and some dialogue with Trish (if I'm not mistaken) to their suspicion to Nero's parentage, which would be a reveal that players would be like "ah we were right. No wonder he has demonic powers and quotes the legend himself".
Man how much would I love to see a remade DMC 4, there's so much potential for a great game and DMC 5 made Nero such a likable character. A DMC 4 with a complete Dante campaign and devil arms that increase Neros play style
@@snapchatsnacks3154 yeah they count more key items. I remember first time playing and seeing that being all excited for a new devil arm.... then nothing lol
@@chatyxd6078 I think one of life's small tragedies is DMC4 never have been allowed to be finished. I think everything like gameplay, mechanics and lore being able to be completed would've given us way better product for sure.
In DMC4, the Church frequently condemns Nero for having the power of a Demon, while being full on Demons themselves and using their Demonhood to hurt people. I remember being a closeted kid in the bible belt during the Catholic Church Scandals, and I think this game ment more to me because of that experience.
@@FuraFaolox actually, angels do not exist in this universe. They are simply another type of demon who have tricked humanity into believing they are servants of god.
@@FuraFaolox Angels are in DmC : Devil May Cry but the OG universe it's all demons baby 😈 Kind of like how angels are classified as a race of demons in the SMT games.
That is correct, DMC universe is connected with baonetta and that game you fight angels too.... But they ultimately fall under a different category of demon.
@@eldridgecharles1313 "Meta" ? You actually had me go check the meaning of that word. And I gotta say : seems kinda legit here (I do insist on the "kinda")
@@eldridgecharles1313 Yeah. I guess this one is more like a pun, whereas the actual "meta", from what I got, sounds quite synonymous with "mise en abyme", if you know this concept.
DMC4 gets a lot of hate but it such a solid title. Nero is 1 of the best additions to the cast. And while Dante's gameplay was somewhat stifled due to the levels being tailored to his nephew. It taught the devs a lot and we ended up getting completely different level designs for 3 characters in DMC5. Back then my expectations were extremely high because DMC3 was a coarse correction that I really enjoyed. And I just wanted to see where they were gonna go with Dante. Looking back in hindsight I can honestly say I don't mind that the focus was mainly on Nero. Itsuno and his team put a lot of work into his awesome combat.
Honestly if 5 was never released, I still feel it ended overall solidly~ The game is polish shine, and gameplay is insane fun while at the same time perfect difficulty, so the only thing I'd ever want an answer, was to where lady went... And the big elephant thought staring at nero dt, why was it vergil
Nero reminds me of Raiden from MGS2 where they introduced a new protagonist that made us confused at first. But at least Nero is, for me, more fun to play as than Dante because of Buster and Max-Act
@@carltasticdrew9633 But in MGS2, solid snake is only playable for the prologue for which is why DMC4 avoided this same controversy by having Dante playable for most of the second half of DMC4. You can thank Hiroyuki Kobayashi (producer for DMC4) for pushing for playable Dante.
Nero is without a doubt, my favorite DMC character. Especially with DMC5 showing us more of his personality outside of a bad case of the "KAGOMEEE"s I love that hes the most emotional character. while Dante has had his grown, hes always felt like he was made for an audience. like hes trying to be cool for whoever is watching. while Nero feels like hes trying to be cool for himself. Hes just....NICE.... and its charming as heck and makes me root for him way more than any of the others.
yes!! god this is nice to see because i've seen people on other dmc videos make comments saying nero doesn't have any character depth and it's refreshing to see people that can see just how much personality and depth he really has 😊😊😊
DMC 4 is the definition of a flawed masterpiece for me. Rushed development really messed up what could've easily been one of the best video games ever made. Even through all its flaws I can confidently say that DMC 4 has the most satisfying gameplay to ever grace that console generation.
Kyrie might catch some flack for not being a badass like everyone else, instead playing the damsel role, but I appreciate her serving as a reminder of what regular humans are like in the DMC world.
yeah she probably would've felt like another lady if she fought which isn't necessarily a bad thing but she's an important character... for nero's development at least... so i kinda get the complaints that she only exists to elevate him but alas, unfinished game
Dante said he wanted to keep the Yamato in the family.. then seconds later left it with Nero. And he leaves it with him at the end of DMC4 with a bunch of significant looks and big uncle energy. The reveal that that Nero is Vergil's son was a decade in the making. That's crazy.
Nero is basically a mixture of Dante and Vergil personality, he's got cocky personality like Dante and Vergil's Silent and calm mind, also he's got a thing for having a gun and sword
I really like how they struck a mix between Dante and Vergil for his personality, but they also have him some individual flare so he isn’t some predictable 50/50
Agreed. DmC was idealized and released during Capcom's Dork Age of the years 2010 to 2016. We didn't ask for a Western-developed reboot of the series. It took us 11 years to get a REAL, JP-developed DMC 5! And the wait was well worth it in the end.
White-Van Helsing I agree DmC is a pretty solid game but it didn’t improve the formula at all it just gave us weaker characters and worse gameplay elements than DMC4 or even DMC3
@@snark4611 I don't know if you and I played the same DmC Devil May Cry. He just kind of looked like Dante to me. Granted in the reveal trailer he looked like a junkie, but that was always meant to change. Which it did.
I was starting to get worried about not seeing a new devil Suzi design through the video, but that art at the end is just perfect. The devil bringer look suits you really well.
God, that scene when the blizzard finally breaks and you can see off into the distance..........perfection! I agree with all of this video. The game as so many flaws, it has no business being so damn good. The characters are awesome, and the combat is deep enough that you could play this for years and still find new techniques. I expected not to like this one when I first rented it, but I ended up falling in love with it.
"In separating and regaining my human soul, I've realized the gravity of the crime I've committed. I've realized how important everything was... everything I've thrown away in my pursuit for power". - V
Something I noticed: the move Nero attempts to use on Dante during their second fight, that being disarming him of Rebellion and trying to impale him with Yamato is the *exact* same maneuver Vergil did to Dante in DMC3 atop Temen Ni Gru. The fact Dante seems to be prepared for this move, countering it so effortlessly, shows how much he thinks about his past battles, and how to improve. Implied character development at it's best!
DMC 4 is one of the games that kept me playing video games for a longest time. Getting S ranks in Dante Must Die difficulty helped me get better in other games. DMC in general also has some awesome ost's, along with the badass gameplay.
I remember me at 8 years old, sitting down to watch my 11 year old Sister play DMC4, and we both _loved_ it. She'd replayed and replayed until she had every single mission at S rank. But she'd get on old Gaming forums and see everyone shitting on Nero just because he wasn't Dante. And then when I was 13 and she was 16, we sat down to play DmC: Devil May Cry together. And we hated it, not the gameplay, which we thought was pretty fucking sweet, but the core story just felt like an edgy 12 year old's fever dream. Poor Kat was absolutely choked as far as any potential character development (Seriously, being able to walk around Limbo freely should've been like a chekov's gun, but it was wasted) and we both sat there at the end like :/
Me at 13-14 unable to finish the game -,- (granted I didn't have that much motivation to as I going thru puberty and started having interest in... other things Also that first boss took me like 30 times to beat!)
@@madmaxim3965 which one? Reboot or 4? Because if we’re talking freaky vagina face baboon, he ain’t that hard. Berial however, he’s *mean* for a first boss.
Good point. Somehow being tortured by Bald Generic Evil Dude wasn't enough to trigger her abilities to escape to limbo. Her foster father should've been the real villain of the story then xddd
I thought Kyrie was a breath of fresh air to DMC. I love strong women protagonists, but Kyrie is strong in a different way. She is portrayed as a saint like human being who’s kindness is her true power, not actual bodily strength. She’s the angel to Nero’s devil and wouldn’t harm a fly. I’m glad you appreciate Nero so much like I do 😭 he’s my favorite boy and fav DMC character for a lot of reasons
My favorite thing about Nero, in DMC 4 AND 5, is that he is THE quintessential "Son of Sparda". (I know, technically grandson, but bear with me) Vergil despised his weak humanity, believing that demonic power was all that mattered, and was all that was needed. He wanted to obtain power to prevent the tragedy of his mother's death from ever happening again, but in doing so, he falls into the belief that might is right. Dante, on the other hand, initially rejected his demonic heritage. Throughout most of his life that we see of him, he's always obnoxious, carefree, and quick with a joke, but that to cover up that he's hurting on the inside, knowing that half of his blood is the same as those that took away his mother, and eventually brother as well. He hates demons, to the point that he seems to even hate himself. Nero, however... Nero understands that he is who he is. He's not a demon, he's not a human. He's just Nero, and that's all he needs to be. Yes, he seeks power like Vergil, but unlike Vergil, Nero is willing to give up that power once he is finished using it to protect those he cares about. Nero is essentially the closest we will get to seeing Sparda's ideology first hand; The desire to protect, through justice, not vengeance. Another thing that I love about DMC 4 is that, during the song "Never Surrender", There's a spot where you'll hear two voices, one human and feminine, the other demonic and masculine, speaking as if they were announcing their vows. It is my solid belief and headcanon that these voices are meant to be those of Sparda and Eva themselves, reciting their wedding vows.
Cool and important extra detail about that comparison, Nero seems close to, but is ultimately unable to reach that revelation because of the persecution he faces both from the church and himself for most of the game. It's only through Kyrie's reassurance that he's able to truly accept himself and her love for him, up until that point he seems hesitant to be close with her, especially considering his arm. If he acts as a good analog for Sparda, being the balance between human and devil, then I think it's safe to say that Kyrie is probably a lot like Eva. It's also one of the few actual things Kyrie does in the story besides get kidnapped, so I think it's important to recognize her place in Nero's arc.
I have never heard someone describe the release of Resident Evil 4 as a "life changing event" before but the more I think about it... Yeah, you're pretty much right.
@句丹句句と 尺ヨ尸卞丹尺 Yeah it's sick as fuck. Love the game. For me Persona 3 and Silent Hill 2 changed a good bit about my life. Those two games are basically what got me interested doing creative things myself.
It was. People just like to hate on it now but in fact it was what jump started all these bandwagon wannabe fans that have flooded the community. RE4 is legendary and influenced every big game that came after it for many years.
DMC4 is not perfect, but it's still a damn good game. It'd probably be more well-received had it not followed up the masterpiece that was the third game. However, a few problems stand out to me that weren't mentioned in the video: 1. While the game is normally good at bringing new players up to speed, as mentioned, it forgets to do this when you first play as Dante. You're suddenly given a massive and new movelist, and the mission's on a time limit so you have to learn as you go. While I'm sure this was fine for returning players, it's quite jarring for a new player. I myself started with DMC4 (I was mostly a PC player, so I had the choice of DMC4 or the horrid port of DMC3), so I got stuck on this level for a while until I adjusted through the trial by fire. 2. The enemy design in many places feels a bit too limiting in some areas. Rather than enemies that leave you free for expressive and stylish combos, many (most irritatingly the Blitz) require you to follow a specific formula to defeat, which always brings down the game when you encounter them. The enemies don't always feel like they suit a DMC game as a result. Despite all this, the game is still solid, and I especially love the Special Edition with its added playable characters (even if they occasionally have issues with the game not feeling designed for them). And Dante and Nero's appearances here laid the groundwork for the absolutely incredible DMC5.
I really disagree with point 2. The only enemies I can think of that are restricting are the Chimera and Blitz, outside of that the roster in DMC4 is probably the most solid it's ever been in the series
@@Dantarn what about Fausts and Mephistos? They're pretty annoying because you need to shoot them to make them vulnerable, or counter attack a specific move. That's what's frustrating about a significant fraction of enemies in this game. There's at least 3-4 enemies that you need to shoot in order to "lower their shield" so you can actually melee them. This becomes very apparent in bloody palace when you're doing 3 rooms in a row that are full of Blitzs, Chimeras, and Mephistos
@@NickyPoundhers Fausts are rough because the cloak has so much damn health but a single Rainstorm will take down Mephisto shroud even on DMD. As for Nero his Charge Shot is a fucking Resident Evil Rocket Launcher so he's fine there. But yeah, Fausts suck a fat one.
@@Dantarn The Chimera and Blitz were the two main enemies I was thinking of, but they stand out so much to be worth mentioning. In a normal game they're mostly tolerable. However, the Special Edition worsens these problems by adding characters the game is absolutely not designed for. A Blitz goes from a pain in the ass for Dante and Nero to an absolute slog for Vergil. Meanwhile, Lady's focus on firearms mean she often makes short work of enemies that other characters struggle with. All that said, these enemies aren't enough to ruin the game. But as someone who frequents the Bloody Palace, they are as big a problem as the re-used areas in story mode. They lead to fights where I'm just glad things are over instead of feeling like a badass, something that I do not find as frequent in DMC3 or 5's enemy rosters.
@@MikhailKutzow I just don't like 5's roster because none of the enemies are really that fun or engaging to fight. Sure you don't have any huge stinkers like Chimera but you don't have anything near the quality as fighting a pack of DMC4 Angelos
DMC IV was a humbling surprise. The lore, world, characters, and atmosphere. The story though takes so many turns, and the voice acting is top notch. Plus the music is an epic rollercoaster ride. Simply amazing, love this series. And excellent coverage of this installment 😊
@@SteveRudzinski Indeed the backtracking part was a choice that opens up a parallel journey. Dante literally closing the chapter, on defeating those bosses, and utilizing their skillsets.(just like past entries) Plus it looks amazing, especially 4SE, the visuals still have that majestic look, character designs are sharp, and literally jump off the screen, and each environment is colorful, not bland, but multi-layered. There is so much depth within 4, it's worth revisiting.
_“Well, that’s the only kind of gift worth giving”_ is one of the quotes I hold close to my heart. Very nice video! I like your insight, expertise, and style! Keep rockin' on! :3
This was my first dmc game, played in 2014. It was a blast. 2019 I bought the hd collection and learn about the story (and got better overall). Seeing key cutscenes from dmc4 again, with all the knowledge from earlier games really add up to the experience. The voice echoing when Nero got Yamato... Gave me the shivers
I remember seeing the trailer for this game and when I heard my favorite power ranger voicing Nero my instant reaction was "gotta get it". Definitely one of my favorite games of the series from the gameplay mechanics to the characters even the theme (Shall never surrender) captivated me
The die also follows a set pattern I believe, so it is predictable what it lands on. Doesn't make it any less of a nuisance to go through. Great video as always, and I look forward to more.
Cascade Persona Not exactly a set pattern, but more if you hit it with the one you want face up, it’d land on it. (So like if I wanted snake eyes, i’d hit the dice when snake eyes showed up and id get it.)
@@RikuVA By set pattern they mean like as it rotates across the numbers, its fixed what the next number to appear at the top is, like, 1 > 5 > 4 > 6 > 3 > 2 > 1 > 5 > 4...... which is true (not that exact numbering, but you get what im saying)
38:49, I would like to open a small parenthesis regarding the weapons that Dante obtains once the major demons that are linked to the Hell Gates have been beaten. I want to start by saying that during the first meeting between Nero and Agnus, the latter explained to the boy that he used powerful demonic weapons to energize the copies of the original Hell Gate that he himself created. In the novel "Devil May Cry 4 - Deadly Fortune", it is said that Gloria (Trish) did not carry only the sword Sparda into the hands of the Order, but the woman also brought three demonic weapons which she first stole from Dante (which turn out to be Gilgamesh, Pandora and Lucifer), and consequently helping Agnus with his goals. Practically, in this game Dante doesn't get any demonic weapons from the souls of the bosses he defeats (as for example happens in DMC3), but he will simply take back his old weapons which he obtained in the past by defeating the related demons and which were taken away from him! This also explains why the various weapons appear from the Hell Gates and not from the major demons! In any case, it was very enjoyable to watch this video, and the time passed very quickly! Good job! I know very well that this is not a perfect game and that it will certainly not be a truly complete product either, but as a kid it was for me one of the most important games (along with DMC3SE) ever! I have literally spent many years watching any kind of video about this game, also knowing many people who shared my same passion! I also remember that I was always delighted while watching the videos of those people who completed the missions doing "S Rank No Damage", not to mention how incredulous I was and got very excited while watching the "Combo MAD" videos that people like Tizza, cedrus0511, his1nightmare, Brea, donguri990 and many others published showing us their incredible combos! For me they were really beautiful moments, to which I learned a lot of things and that will always be part of me! P.S.: I really ask forgiveness for my bad English, but sadly it's not my main language!
I still love how Dante just let's Nero wail on him for a bit before confusing him and then leaving. I always just Headcanon that Dante goes back to this moment and just thinks how he's just introducing Nero into the family through the tradition. That is of not talking things out and just fight eachother. And also the world being in danger because of their family problem. Best Uncle.
Truly an uncle (likes to mess with his nephew) and trying to prepare him for Vergil ig by teaching him about the tradition (/j) What makes it kinda sad is that after the events of DMC4 he kept his distance from Nero because he thought involving him too much in Sparda family stuff would lead him to getting hurt.
@laz kar the thing is.... I don't see the need to have each and every single female in this franchise be a, as you called 'demon-slaying badass', variety of characters allows for variety of tastes. I remember when Nico was introduced and was slightly criticized for not being an 11/10 Super Hot Model demon killer. And I was loving her since the very first trailer announcement. Seeing Dante going up and down with two girls, seems to me that Itsuno wanted to even the score with Nero haha
I think Kyrie's character grew a lot stronger in DMC5 even though she got less screen time. Although she did not help Nero's fight directly like Nico did, when Nero feels lost and uncertain of himself, she is the one who he turns to. And with just few words and showing mental support, she make Nero find the determination to do what's right. It's clear that Kyrie plays an important role on making Nero the man he become.
As much of a trope what's-her-face is, Nero is such an awesome character, with an amazingly emotive voice actor and model, that he carries every scene for her. He is so obviously dedicated to her, and that shows every single time. I legit get chills and everything everytime I see it.
One thing I always loved about DMC4 was how Nero's struggle and Kyrie's "damsel in distress" ordeal reminded me of BLEACH with Ichigo and Orihime, and the fact Johnny voiced both Nero and Ichigo made it all the more ironic haha made for some dope mashup AMVs back 2010 onwards
This was my first DMC game and I absolutely loved it. I went back and played the other 3, DMC, and 5. This game holds a dear place in my heart. Can’t wait for 6!
This game is very special to me, when it came out it was days b4 or after my birthday, can’t recall exactly. Here in Wisconsin it was a crazy blizzard that night and my mom and dad drove out to get me a copy and drop it off to my house as a suprise. At that time things were going bad in my marriage, I was a new dad to a perfect little girl and struggling to pay all the bills especially the rent on the house my wife at the time NEEDED to move into. I’ll never forget seeing the headlights growing brighter against the snow watching out the front room picture window. It was my parents car and out ran my mom, trudging thru the quickly rising snow. It was after 9pm so it was completely dark out. It was so silent outside the only sounds were from the wind gusts and snow hitting the windows and siding. I opened the door to greet her I could hear the crunch of the snow under her feet in every step. She was bundled up but glowing with anticipation of giving me my suprise birthday gift. I get emotional just thinking about it as I write this. My parents have always gone to great lengths to make me and my sisters happy and I now I do the same for my own daughter. The game has it flaws but for me…it’s absolutely perfect.
Recently been playing DMC 4, I never gave it enough credit, I never realized how much fun it was and how deep the combat is. Since then I've been LOVING this game, despite it's flaws. I'm gonna be taking a break from DMC 5 to get acquainted and spend more time with 4, cause man, it is a BLAST! Also, since beating DMC 5, Nero has become my personal favorite character in the franchise
Sphere I hope you get to read this message. My family and I got bad news about my big brother and being in Afghanistan trying to come home. Even though we are all sad and upset, when I listen and watch your videos, your soothing voice lifts my spirits. Thank you. 💯
Suzi, you're vids are like THE most relaxing thing ever for early mornings and late nights with a bit of hot chocolate. Great narration as always. Stay awesome
DMC 4 was the first Devil May Cry game I really remembered playing. I remember playing the first level of the original game a few times and rage quitting as a kid at Phantom. I beat Devil May Cry 2 but it wasn't really a game I remembered well and I never even tried 3. 4 however was a game I rented a few times and I loved it a lot. The gameplay was satisfying, the story was interesting and I loved the interactions between Nero and Dante. The music was kick-ass too. I never got the hate for this game, as to me, it was one of the best action games on the PS3/Xbox.
Such a great game breakdown and explanation into the magic of what DMC4 brings to the table. Well done as always. No title is perfect, but perfections are always present and should be appreciated. I love your perceptions and judgements of titles.
So this was my first Sphere Hunter video, and afterwards I've now gone back and watched most of the back catalogue. Just gotta say I love the content put out here and am excited for anything new in the future
Kyrie is in 11 cutscenes in dmc4 the only 2 where she isn’t being saved is when she is singing at the start of the game and when she gives Nero the red queen
Amazing, This is the kind of honest review that I have always been looking for but couldn't quite put my finger onto. I still enjoy the heck out of the special edition to this day. You have mentioned all the details I wanted to address when talking about this entry, and your cool attitude had done well for this title in the best possible way. I really felt like I analyzed this series entry with a best friend over a drink. Thank you so much for putting all of this detailed care into this specific review, for reasons of my own this entry also holds a special place in my heart in spite of it all.
DMC4 was my first ever introduction the series. I remember seeing the cover and thinking Nero (Who I thought at the time was Dante) as the coolest character I had ever seen. It would be years until I played it, but man this game is amazing. I know you covered this years ago but this is a great watch!
After the series retcon that placed DMC4 after the events of DMC2, Dante's cold, get-it-done personality in the beginning makes much more sense. Then when Nero comes in and holds his own against Dante, Dante starts to slip back into his wacky woohoo pizza man personality from 3 (plus a little more seriousness thanks to DMC1) due to having the hunch that he's Vergil's son, and thus, one of Dante's own family.
Thank you so, so much for that tip with the dice. I got a friend of mine into Devil may Cry thanks to 5 and she wanted to see 4 as well to know more about Nero. I went through it, but the last level cost me nearly half an hour because I didn't know that trick. Now am actually motivated to show her how Lady and Trish play like!
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“But I thought it meant a lot to you.”
“Well, that’s the only kind of gift worth giving.”
DANTE WHY ARE YOU SO RIGHT
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@@adimark42 chad move, buddy
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Dante: shoots Yamato to get it back to Nero
Vergil: *Muffled, annoyed screaming from beyond the grave*
At this point , wouldn't vergil just be walking around aimlessly while his body is slowly decaying like it was implied that this was all he did ever since dmc 1 ?
...I'm pretty nero should be dead based on where his head pops out...
The sword literally hit his skull.
Demon blood or not, dante can't stand Yamato damage, so neither can nero...
@@pedroportela6476 My personal headcanon is that after the events of DMC1 Vergil (now released from his Nelo Angelo form) was stuck in Hell and wandered around there, constantly battling, not getting a moment of rest, to the point that his body started to break apart. He didn't have the Yamato, so most of his fights were with either his fists or improvised weapons, constantly relying on his Devil Trigger to the point that his human side couldn't handle anymore. Since he didn't have the Yamato, he couldn't get out either by using its portal powers...
Then, in DMC4, they use the Yamato to open the Hell Gate and Vergil senses this. He manages to escape Hell through one of the Hell Gates and looks for the Yamato, but in the chaos (and with his body being at its limit) he can't find it in time. He wanders around on foot, his connection to the Yamato basically acting as a beacon, and being driven by his sole purpose to regain his strength. His human body can't handle it anymore and breaks apart (which is why he looks like a half-Thanos snapped husk when we see him in DMC5) and just when he's about to die, Nero isn't on a mission, at home, taking care of the DMC Mobile Unit Van, and Vergil can reclaim his weapon and save himself.
It mirrors the lyrics in "Bury the Light", which goes over Vergil's journey from the end of DMC3 all the way to DMC5 (and potentially beyond).
@@MercuryAlphaInc Wow we have the same theory as well, probably yours are more flesh out and much better with you mentioned Vergil able to go to the human world by sensing his Yamato being used for opening portal. Cool story bro.
Mr Wholegrain Vergil: Damn you Dante!!!!
DMC4 Nero: “This arm was made for sending guys like you back to hell”
DMC5 Nero: Losing that arm and hell is unleashed on Earth.
Lmao facts 💯😂
I guess he wasn't kidding
Guess Nero Demonic Arm (Devil Bringer) is capable of restoring his father (Vergil) sword, The Yamato.
Meaning "Nero is Vergil only uprising."
@@tylerself9198 well Virgil is Nero's Father and all so having Virgil's demonic blood in Nero's veins makes sense for that "father like son" or whatever the quote was.
OMG hahahaha
Spherehunter: *gasp* I used that attack in dmc 3
Nero: IM DYING
Spherehunter: yeah yeah that's great *gasp* DID HE JUST SWITCH STYLES
Nero: CAN YOU PLEASE TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY!?
Dante: Well, since you asked so nicely; ROYAL GUARD!
Nero: *Swings Red Queen* Did he just say...
Spherehunter: *Gasp* ROYAL GUARD! Wait, Royal Guard...
Dante: *Parries*
Spherehunter and Nero: OH SHIT!
Honestly that was me in Yakuza 4 when you have to fight kiryu as saejima
"Why was the game rushed."
"Because the team didn't get enough time."
The floor is made of floor.
Developing games must have been a lot harder back then. Back in the day, game graphics and the technologies used were changing pretty fast. The graphical changes from ps1 to ps2 to ps3 were insane. So Capcom must have spent a lot of money catching up to the newest stuff. Resident Evil 5 came out a year after DMC 4. It looked amazing for the time, although it was incredibly boring compared to the previous entry. So that must have been so much money down the drain.
I'm just glad that today there are way cheaper and faster tools to make games. A small group of people can develop amazing games with cheap tools. Which is why we see so many indie companies bringing better games than the giants that existed for decades.
to kill the cyberdemon shoot at it until it dies
@@rumplstiltztinkerstein What was boring about RE5?
@@DatLazyBoi RE4 set a really high standard before. The game does look cool, has great graphics and a nice initial setup. But it kind of feel a bit underwhelming when compared to the fourth. Just my feeling about the game.
@@rumplstiltztinkerstein agreed, but co op was great
After hearing "Dante, Will we meet again?" And having "DMC" released... I feared Devil May Cry was dead forever...
Devil May Cry 5 was a fucking blessing, God I love this franchise
Indeed. DMC5 and DMC4 SE was the JP team's way of giving Ninja Theory's reboot a giant F**K YOU.
@@JSGirl09able
Even though they ultimately included a lot of elements from the reboot into 5.
@@wanderingmarshadow Not really, they added a few nods but nothing substantial from DmC was added, the gameplay was nothing like it and a continuation of 4, the story's closest nod was just giving Vergil Doppleganger but even that works differently, then you've got close ups for a final kill.
A lot of elements would be things that would substantially change the game experience if they were missing, and those little details, really wouldn't.
@@theworstcatholic7247
You're making it sound like I was exaggerating about elements being added. Bleh, whatever I guess.
Same!!
Suzi: Tries to sell Dante a VPN
Dante: still owns a rotary phone.
@@mustang4636 he still had one in may cry 5
@@mustang4636 well, patty's 18 in dmc5, and dante met her when she was like 11 or something, meaning if anyone would have his personal number, it'd be her or morrison...Notice how patty called the rotary phone that dante has on the front counter? im p sure thats his actual phone which is so dante
You have a curse pfp
Dante can't afford to pay for electricity and water. There's no way he even has internet.
Is that supposed to be bald Vergil?
TheSphereHunter: *starts talking about NordVPN*
Dante: *hangs up* I’m beginning to think I’ve got rotten luck with women.
Hey! At least is not rAiD sHaDOw LeGEnD!!
Oh ark knights
Me: *standing in front of big ben*
Also me:*walks away from poster revealing I am on a island*
Me again: it appeared I was some where I actually am not that is thanks to the power of nord vpn
(Idk why I made this)
As someone who plays Raid: Shadow Legends I have to say, you're a massive a**hole who doesn't know what they're talking about
@@DarthVraak oh nice, how much you got paid?
There's actually a book that takes place after dmc4. Basically, Nero opens his own devil hunting shop and dante shows his support by sending a copy of the Devil May Cry sign above his shop. I really like how Dante and Nero kept interacting between DMC 4 and DMC 5
what's the book called
@@gordonfeetman445
The world may never know.
@@gordonfeetman445Idk what he's talking about, but the Visions of V manga, takes place before and during DMCV, from V's perspective. It gives SO much context to characters, like how Nero lives before the game, what happens directly after the first cutscene, and what goes through V's thoughts during the game.
The manga turned V from a weird story gimmick, to one of my favorite characters, and what made Vergil my favorite character in basically all of fiction
@@gordonfeetman445I think the book is called "before the nightmare"
Cool pizza uncle and his cool nephew :)
I just realized that if Dante kept the Yamato, the events of DMC5 could have been completely prevented.
should have given the other sword
@Z390 The story was just half the criteria
👀
@Z390 Funnily enough, the end scene with Lady even points out that their pay got heavily docked because things wouldn't have escalated to this level if it wasn't for Trish handing them what they needed on a platter lol.
For the second point, the order already had Yamato. They only lost it because Nero absorbed it remember.
Lol there will be no DMC 5
The menu music in this game is criminally underrated
the entire album is underrated and still gets you hyped to kick ass and I love how it's actually aged pretty well.
Do you guys know what the song is called at 47:43?
Cyanyde yeah it really did
@@weepop8291
I believe it is la vita nuova dmc4
@@weepop8291 original song is shall never surrender
The best moment is when Dante defeats Nero by countering the exact move that Vergil impaled him with in 3.
Joe Wright Finally someone brought this up
Another one who realized that moment. Good :)
@Zark Well. It's Dante. He loves messing with others :)
I too would do so for fun
WTF?!
Also when Dante is at the dice minigame part and he cuts the dice in half and skip the whole minigame.
Dante never hung up. She just continues the whole video with him listening.
Mister Sauce omg... that just added a whole lot of depth to the video
Who'd hang up on Suzi?
😠Still an asshole move in DMC5😆
@@bradl.602 Not me. She's the Sphere Waifu.
I do what in. Few years?
I read long ago that Nero was meant to absorb each demon boss' soul into his devil bringer to give him new weapons and move sets like his devil breakers in DMC5. Like the Yamato appears on his right hand? Berial's sword would appear like a Buster sword with heavier hits and give Nero fire damage.
And Dante was definitely meant to have his own bosses names after the devils arms he acquires.
Story wise a lot of what ended up in the novels, was meant to be in the game, like more background on Nero, and the Vergil's son revelation was supposed to have more scenes where Dante gives Nero his own Neon sign and some dialogue with Trish (if I'm not mistaken) to their suspicion to Nero's parentage, which would be a reveal that players would be like "ah we were right. No wonder he has demonic powers and quotes the legend himself".
He actually does absorb demon parts in the story but it doesn't factor into combat and it is really lame.
Man how much would I love to see a remade DMC 4, there's so much potential for a great game and DMC 5 made Nero such a likable character. A DMC 4 with a complete Dante campaign and devil arms that increase Neros play style
@@snapchatsnacks3154 yeah they count more key items. I remember first time playing and seeing that being all excited for a new devil arm.... then nothing lol
@@chatyxd6078 I think one of life's small tragedies is DMC4 never have been allowed to be finished. I think everything like gameplay, mechanics and lore being able to be completed would've given us way better product for sure.
In DMC4, the Church frequently condemns Nero for having the power of a Demon, while being full on Demons themselves and using their Demonhood to hurt people. I remember being a closeted kid in the bible belt during the Catholic Church Scandals, and I think this game ment more to me because of that experience.
well, they're angels. they do have access to demonic power, though. they only use the demons to make themselves look better.
@@FuraFaolox actually, angels do not exist in this universe. They are simply another type of demon who have tricked humanity into believing they are servants of god.
@@FuraFaolox Angels are in DmC : Devil May Cry but the OG universe it's all demons baby 😈 Kind of like how angels are classified as a race of demons in the SMT games.
That is correct, DMC universe is connected with baonetta and that game you fight angels too.... But they ultimately fall under a different category of demon.
@@FuraFaolox not really? they're all demons. Credo's "Angel Form" is the only one that resembles an angel but even his features imply demonic nature.
I like how she's calling, and in Dante's mind, he's like:
"Lady, how the hell am I gonna use VPN on a house phone?"
It was actually Lady who called him at that moment?
@@megapulsar9244 That's Meta, but it's still the same problem!
@@eldridgecharles1313 "Meta" ? You actually had me go check the meaning of that word. And I gotta say : seems kinda legit here (I do insist on the "kinda")
@@megapulsar9244 Lol, meant it as like a twist. Dante answered to lady, when he knows "Lady"
@@eldridgecharles1313 Yeah. I guess this one is more like a pun, whereas the actual "meta", from what I got, sounds quite synonymous with "mise en abyme", if you know this concept.
DMC4 gets a lot of hate but it such a solid title. Nero is 1 of the best additions to the cast. And while Dante's gameplay was somewhat stifled due to the levels being tailored to his nephew. It taught the devs a lot and we ended up getting completely different level designs for 3 characters in DMC5. Back then my expectations were extremely high because DMC3 was a coarse correction that I really enjoyed. And I just wanted to see where they were gonna go with Dante. Looking back in hindsight I can honestly say I don't mind that the focus was mainly on Nero. Itsuno and his team put a lot of work into his awesome combat.
I love your videos about DMC and transformers.
Honestly if 5 was never released, I still feel it ended overall solidly~
The game is polish shine, and gameplay is insane fun while at the same time perfect difficulty, so the only thing I'd ever want an answer, was to where lady went... And the big elephant thought staring at nero dt, why was it vergil
Nero reminds me of Raiden from MGS2 where they introduced a new protagonist that made us confused at first. But at least Nero is, for me, more fun to play as than Dante because of Buster and Max-Act
Nero's combat is another innovative history of the series
@@carltasticdrew9633 But in MGS2, solid snake is only playable for the prologue for which is why DMC4 avoided this same controversy by having Dante playable for most of the second half of DMC4.
You can thank Hiroyuki Kobayashi (producer for DMC4) for pushing for playable Dante.
"I thought he was supposed to be Dante's son."
WELL
Almost there
Genetically speaking he would be.
@@henrydrago Identical twins have the same DNA so a paternity test would identify both Dane and Virgil as Nero's father.
@@Twiska I don't think that's entirely true
@Alvi Syahri where?
PSA: The Donguri footage displayed isn’t sped up at all, inertia really is that wild, and Donguri’s channel is a goldmine for footage like that
I mean... It technically is sped up if you count turbo mode
Nero is without a doubt, my favorite DMC character. Especially with DMC5 showing us more of his personality outside of a bad case of the "KAGOMEEE"s
I love that hes the most emotional character. while Dante has had his grown, hes always felt like he was made for an audience. like hes trying to be cool for whoever is watching. while Nero feels like hes trying to be cool for himself.
Hes just....NICE.... and its charming as heck and makes me root for him way more than any of the others.
yes!! god this is nice to see because i've seen people on other dmc videos make comments saying nero doesn't have any character depth and it's refreshing to see people that can see just how much personality and depth he really has 😊😊😊
Kagome? is that a inuyasha reference
@@eldergod4817 darn tootin'
I love Nero. And he consistently has had the best VA, in my opinion (JYB is a beast).
@@carbonatedcosmo7665tbh being more emotional then other characters is not character depth
DMC 4 is the definition of a flawed masterpiece for me. Rushed development really messed up what could've easily been one of the best video games ever made. Even through all its flaws I can confidently say that DMC 4 has the most satisfying gameplay to ever grace that console generation.
I share the same sentiments wendy
I believe one of the original plans was 20 missions each for Nero and Dante.
40 whole missions. Think about that.
DMC 4 and KotOR 2 both fit this category perfectly.
That's about as well as it could be said. However, it is still one of the greatest games ever made considering how bad everything has been since then.
Hell, if it wasn't for DMC5, DMC4 would still have the title of best combat system.
Kyrie might catch some flack for not being a badass like everyone else, instead playing the damsel role, but I appreciate her serving as a reminder of what regular humans are like in the DMC world.
Lady isn't a regular human?
@@Pedro_eqw Supposedly yes, but not really.
@@Pedro_eqw She is just a plain human but quite a badass demon killing one.
@@rell.3130 I would've liked if they expanded on the priestess bloodline thing
yeah she probably would've felt like another lady if she fought which isn't necessarily a bad thing but she's an important character... for nero's development at least... so i kinda get the complaints that she only exists to elevate him but alas, unfinished game
I remember catching SO much hate for being so into DMC4 all the homies thought it was trash lol. Neros been my psn Avatar for the last like 5 years :)
Quick question, did you buy the avatar, or did you use the ps mobile app to use a custom profile pic?
Nero was my xbox avatar for several years too
Yeah I too liked Nero more
@Jayson Rivera I hope you updated it to DMC V nero
Dante said he wanted to keep the Yamato in the family.. then seconds later left it with Nero. And he leaves it with him at the end of DMC4 with a bunch of significant looks and big uncle energy. The reveal that that Nero is Vergil's son was a decade in the making. That's crazy.
Nero is basically a mixture of Dante and Vergil personality, he's got cocky personality like Dante and Vergil's Silent and calm mind, also he's got a thing for having a gun and sword
In other words (at least according to the DMC wiki) he's more like Sparda then even his sons are
I really like how they struck a mix between Dante and Vergil for his personality, but they also have him some individual flare so he isn’t some predictable 50/50
21:51 The entire Fanbase when Capcom announced DmC: Devil May cry
Ikr
@White-Van Helsing Go home Tameem.
Agreed. DmC was idealized and released during Capcom's Dork Age of the years 2010 to 2016. We didn't ask for a Western-developed reboot of the series. It took us 11 years to get a REAL, JP-developed DMC 5! And the wait was well worth it in the end.
White-Van Helsing I agree DmC is a pretty solid game but it didn’t improve the formula at all it just gave us weaker characters and worse gameplay elements than DMC4 or even DMC3
@@vergil_6707 gave us a pretty good soundtrack though
i am a huge DmC fanboi
Dante: Mother
Vergil: *Power*
DmC Dante: HaRd FuCkIn DrUgs
Nero: KYYYYRRRRRRRIIIIIEEEE, LET HER GOOOOOOOO, AAAAAAAAAAAAA
More like "sister" for Nero.
"HEY, KID"
What's the whole DmC Devil May Cry Dante drug thing about?
@@Brandon_Powell well the dude looks like he's one bad trip away from going insane
@@snark4611 I don't know if you and I played the same DmC Devil May Cry. He just kind of looked like Dante to me. Granted in the reveal trailer he looked like a junkie, but that was always meant to change. Which it did.
Jyb really makes the game for me, and nothing sets the tone of a game like Nero dropkicking Dante right in the face lol
*kick* "MY GAME!!"
43:55 - 44:03 For people who's first DMC game was 5, they have no idea how much that moment impacted us for years.
They don't have a clue what the entire series means to us!
Nero: Will we meet again?
Dante:...
*11 years later*
Dante: Get out of my way Nero you're just dead weight!
I was starting to get worried about not seeing a new devil Suzi design through the video, but that art at the end is just perfect. The devil bringer look suits you really well.
God, that scene when the blizzard finally breaks and you can see off into the distance..........perfection! I agree with all of this video. The game as so many flaws, it has no business being so damn good. The characters are awesome, and the combat is deep enough that you could play this for years and still find new techniques. I expected not to like this one when I first rented it, but I ended up falling in love with it.
Hey Avalanche, love your videos!
DMC retrospective???
14:34 Bayonetta one year before Bayonetta
"In separating and regaining my human soul, I've realized the gravity of the crime I've committed. I've realized how important everything was... everything I've thrown away in my pursuit for power". - V
Something I noticed: the move Nero attempts to use on Dante during their second fight, that being disarming him of Rebellion and trying to impale him with Yamato is the *exact* same maneuver Vergil did to Dante in DMC3 atop Temen Ni Gru. The fact Dante seems to be prepared for this move, countering it so effortlessly, shows how much he thinks about his past battles, and how to improve. Implied character development at it's best!
DMC 4 is one of the games that kept me playing video games for a longest time. Getting S ranks in Dante Must Die difficulty helped me get better in other games. DMC in general also has some awesome ost's, along with the badass gameplay.
Getting a S rank on DMC4 isn't much of a challenge. Especially how easy it is with Nero.
Bah gawd you're everywhere
I never thought about it before, but this is spot on. This game really kept me motivated.
Yes that’s good and all but do you click EVERY video that shows up in your recommended cause this is becoming ridiculous
A DMC4 Video*
The fanbase: The Time has Come and so have I
Dante: "Nice telemarketing, but I can barely keep my water running. I can't buy a VPN."
I remember me at 8 years old, sitting down to watch my 11 year old Sister play DMC4, and we both _loved_ it. She'd replayed and replayed until she had every single mission at S rank. But she'd get on old Gaming forums and see everyone shitting on Nero just because he wasn't Dante. And then when I was 13 and she was 16, we sat down to play DmC: Devil May Cry together. And we hated it, not the gameplay, which we thought was pretty fucking sweet, but the core story just felt like an edgy 12 year old's fever dream. Poor Kat was absolutely choked as far as any potential character development (Seriously, being able to walk around Limbo freely should've been like a chekov's gun, but it was wasted) and we both sat there at the end like :/
Me at 13-14 unable to finish the game -,- (granted I didn't have that much motivation to as I going thru puberty and started having interest in... other things
Also that first boss took me like 30 times to beat!)
@@madmaxim3965 which one? Reboot or 4?
Because if we’re talking freaky vagina face baboon, he ain’t that hard. Berial however, he’s *mean* for a first boss.
Good point. Somehow being tortured by Bald Generic Evil Dude wasn't enough to trigger her abilities to escape to limbo. Her foster father should've been the real villain of the story then xddd
@@proximityclockworkx1572 fr, if “Muhnduhs” wasn’t enough to make her run away to limbo then what the FUCK did her foster dad do to her???
"Shitting on Nero just because he wasn't Nero."
Sure.
I loved DMC5 but there's something about DMC4 graphics that captivated me, characters design are just perfect my favorites of the series i must say.
Agreed they’ve got such a nostalgic touch to them for the ps3/360 era and the character designs were so charming, honestly really disliked dmc5s nero
36:08 Somebody's got a crush... Oh who am I kidding? LADY'S SO HOT!
EDIT: Can someone tell me the link of that "Devils Never Cry" Remix?
Someone who appreciates lady is instantly a hero and cultured
@@samuelkibunda6960 that's a lady gaga quote, I'm sure!
Puberty hit Lady HARD
@@samuelkibunda6960 indeed like her design in DMC4 is the hottest she has looked so far.
Dante: Do I look like I know what a VPN is?
"I just want a picture of a got dang pizza!"
Dante: what the hell is the 'inter-net?'
I guess Dante doesn't use protection
Dante: Hackers are the one thing I can't Royal Guard.
11:18 exactly one frame of sphere hunter admiring some booty.
30:37 same here
Oooooh I thought that was an editing error
@@nrthe2videos514 Yehp saw that one too haha.
Rawr
As they say, "There is no heterosexual explanation for this"
I thought Kyrie was a breath of fresh air to DMC.
I love strong women protagonists, but Kyrie is strong in a different way. She is portrayed as a saint like human being who’s kindness is her true power, not actual bodily strength. She’s the angel to Nero’s devil and wouldn’t harm a fly. I’m glad you appreciate Nero so much like I do 😭 he’s my favorite boy and fav DMC character for a lot of reasons
My favorite thing about Nero, in DMC 4 AND 5, is that he is THE quintessential "Son of Sparda". (I know, technically grandson, but bear with me)
Vergil despised his weak humanity, believing that demonic power was all that mattered, and was all that was needed. He wanted to obtain power to prevent the tragedy of his mother's death from ever happening again, but in doing so, he falls into the belief that might is right.
Dante, on the other hand, initially rejected his demonic heritage. Throughout most of his life that we see of him, he's always obnoxious, carefree, and quick with a joke, but that to cover up that he's hurting on the inside, knowing that half of his blood is the same as those that took away his mother, and eventually brother as well. He hates demons, to the point that he seems to even hate himself.
Nero, however... Nero understands that he is who he is. He's not a demon, he's not a human. He's just Nero, and that's all he needs to be. Yes, he seeks power like Vergil, but unlike Vergil, Nero is willing to give up that power once he is finished using it to protect those he cares about. Nero is essentially the closest we will get to seeing Sparda's ideology first hand; The desire to protect, through justice, not vengeance.
Another thing that I love about DMC 4 is that, during the song "Never Surrender", There's a spot where you'll hear two voices, one human and feminine, the other demonic and masculine, speaking as if they were announcing their vows. It is my solid belief and headcanon that these voices are meant to be those of Sparda and Eva themselves, reciting their wedding vows.
Cool and important extra detail about that comparison, Nero seems close to, but is ultimately unable to reach that revelation because of the persecution he faces both from the church and himself for most of the game. It's only through Kyrie's reassurance that he's able to truly accept himself and her love for him, up until that point he seems hesitant to be close with her, especially considering his arm.
If he acts as a good analog for Sparda, being the balance between human and devil, then I think it's safe to say that Kyrie is probably a lot like Eva. It's also one of the few actual things Kyrie does in the story besides get kidnapped, so I think it's important to recognize her place in Nero's arc.
I have never heard someone describe the release of Resident Evil 4 as a "life changing event" before but the more I think about it... Yeah, you're pretty much right.
RE4 is for sure not only one of the best Resident Evil titles but one of the best games of all time man
I never get tired of replaying it
@@higoralves3132 You have a point.
@句丹句句と 尺ヨ尸卞丹尺 Yeah it's sick as fuck. Love the game. For me Persona 3 and Silent Hill 2 changed a good bit about my life. Those two games are basically what got me interested doing creative things myself.
It was. People just like to hate on it now but in fact it was what jump started all these bandwagon wannabe fans that have flooded the community.
RE4 is legendary and influenced every big game that came after it for many years.
DMC4 is not perfect, but it's still a damn good game. It'd probably be more well-received had it not followed up the masterpiece that was the third game. However, a few problems stand out to me that weren't mentioned in the video:
1. While the game is normally good at bringing new players up to speed, as mentioned, it forgets to do this when you first play as Dante. You're suddenly given a massive and new movelist, and the mission's on a time limit so you have to learn as you go. While I'm sure this was fine for returning players, it's quite jarring for a new player. I myself started with DMC4 (I was mostly a PC player, so I had the choice of DMC4 or the horrid port of DMC3), so I got stuck on this level for a while until I adjusted through the trial by fire.
2. The enemy design in many places feels a bit too limiting in some areas. Rather than enemies that leave you free for expressive and stylish combos, many (most irritatingly the Blitz) require you to follow a specific formula to defeat, which always brings down the game when you encounter them. The enemies don't always feel like they suit a DMC game as a result.
Despite all this, the game is still solid, and I especially love the Special Edition with its added playable characters (even if they occasionally have issues with the game not feeling designed for them). And Dante and Nero's appearances here laid the groundwork for the absolutely incredible DMC5.
I really disagree with point 2. The only enemies I can think of that are restricting are the Chimera and Blitz, outside of that the roster in DMC4 is probably the most solid it's ever been in the series
@@Dantarn what about Fausts and Mephistos? They're pretty annoying because you need to shoot them to make them vulnerable, or counter attack a specific move.
That's what's frustrating about a significant fraction of enemies in this game. There's at least 3-4 enemies that you need to shoot in order to "lower their shield" so you can actually melee them.
This becomes very apparent in bloody palace when you're doing 3 rooms in a row that are full of Blitzs, Chimeras, and Mephistos
@@NickyPoundhers Fausts are rough because the cloak has so much damn health but a single Rainstorm will take down Mephisto shroud even on DMD. As for Nero his Charge Shot is a fucking Resident Evil Rocket Launcher so he's fine there.
But yeah, Fausts suck a fat one.
@@Dantarn The Chimera and Blitz were the two main enemies I was thinking of, but they stand out so much to be worth mentioning. In a normal game they're mostly tolerable. However, the Special Edition worsens these problems by adding characters the game is absolutely not designed for. A Blitz goes from a pain in the ass for Dante and Nero to an absolute slog for Vergil. Meanwhile, Lady's focus on firearms mean she often makes short work of enemies that other characters struggle with.
All that said, these enemies aren't enough to ruin the game. But as someone who frequents the Bloody Palace, they are as big a problem as the re-used areas in story mode. They lead to fights where I'm just glad things are over instead of feeling like a badass, something that I do not find as frequent in DMC3 or 5's enemy rosters.
@@MikhailKutzow I just don't like 5's roster because none of the enemies are really that fun or engaging to fight. Sure you don't have any huge stinkers like Chimera but you don't have anything near the quality as fighting a pack of DMC4 Angelos
DMC IV was a humbling surprise. The lore, world, characters, and atmosphere. The story though takes so many turns, and the voice acting is top notch. Plus the music is an epic rollercoaster ride.
Simply amazing, love this series. And excellent coverage of this installment 😊
I used to just like DMC games. DMC4 made me love the series. Total surprise in how great it did everything, even with the back tracking levels.
@@SteveRudzinski Indeed the backtracking part was a choice that opens up a parallel journey. Dante literally closing the chapter, on defeating those bosses, and utilizing their skillsets.(just like past entries) Plus it looks amazing, especially 4SE, the visuals still have that majestic look, character designs are sharp, and literally jump off the screen, and each environment is colorful, not bland, but multi-layered.
There is so much depth within 4, it's worth revisiting.
_“Well, that’s the only kind of gift worth giving”_ is one of the quotes I hold close to my heart.
Very nice video! I like your insight, expertise, and style! Keep rockin' on! :3
This was my first dmc game, played in 2014. It was a blast. 2019 I bought the hd collection and learn about the story (and got better overall). Seeing key cutscenes from dmc4 again, with all the knowledge from earlier games really add up to the experience. The voice echoing when Nero got Yamato... Gave me the shivers
37:39
“I know the tech is called guard flying, but I personally like to call it... god flying.”
*Que Jotaro’s Theme*
y a r e y a r e
You know Jotaro's a big deal and an awesome protagonist when his theme is mentioned in a DMC video.
34:02 RIP these beautiful cutscenes forever tied to a pachinko game.
At least that wasn't the last new content we got to see of the classic characters anymore.
Capcom at least is making games
And fuckonami are not
Me: Kinda have some flashback of a certain true boss
*sees Donguri's footage
Me: Yep, that one....
the true god
I remember seeing the trailer for this game and when I heard my favorite power ranger voicing Nero my instant reaction was "gotta get it". Definitely one of my favorite games of the series from the gameplay mechanics to the characters even the theme (Shall never surrender) captivated me
Nero flipping Dante the bird in that scene made me smile way too much.
The die also follows a set pattern I believe, so it is predictable what it lands on. Doesn't make it any less of a nuisance to go through.
Great video as always, and I look forward to more.
Cascade Persona Not exactly a set pattern, but more if you hit it with the one you want face up, it’d land on it. (So like if I wanted snake eyes, i’d hit the dice when snake eyes showed up and id get it.)
If you Buster the dice when the top face is the numver you want it will land as that number.
@@RikuVA By set pattern they mean like as it rotates across the numbers, its fixed what the next number to appear at the top is, like, 1 > 5 > 4 > 6 > 3 > 2 > 1 > 5 > 4...... which is true (not that exact numbering, but you get what im saying)
@@MiriRyllis I'm having PTSD of when I was trying to S rank mission 6. I had that shit memorized. So frustrating.
34:03 We interrupt DevilMayCry 4 to bring you Final Fantasy XV.
20:15 God that was beautiful...
thank you
38:49, I would like to open a small parenthesis regarding the weapons that Dante obtains once the major demons that are linked to the Hell Gates have been beaten.
I want to start by saying that during the first meeting between Nero and Agnus, the latter explained to the boy that he used powerful demonic weapons to energize the copies of the original Hell Gate that he himself created. In the novel "Devil May Cry 4 - Deadly Fortune", it is said that Gloria (Trish) did not carry only the sword Sparda into the hands of the Order, but the woman also brought three demonic weapons which she first stole from Dante (which turn out to be Gilgamesh, Pandora and Lucifer), and consequently helping Agnus with his goals. Practically, in this game Dante doesn't get any demonic weapons from the souls of the bosses he defeats (as for example happens in DMC3), but he will simply take back his old weapons which he obtained in the past by defeating the related demons and which were taken away from him! This also explains why the various weapons appear from the Hell Gates and not from the major demons!
In any case, it was very enjoyable to watch this video, and the time passed very quickly! Good job!
I know very well that this is not a perfect game and that it will certainly not be a truly complete product either, but as a kid it was for me one of the most important games (along with DMC3SE) ever! I have literally spent many years watching any kind of video about this game, also knowing many people who shared my same passion! I also remember that I was always delighted while watching the videos of those people who completed the missions doing "S Rank No Damage", not to mention how incredulous I was and got very excited while watching the "Combo MAD" videos that people like Tizza, cedrus0511, his1nightmare, Brea, donguri990 and many others published showing us their incredible combos! For me they were really beautiful moments, to which I learned a lot of things and that will always be part of me!
P.S.: I really ask forgiveness for my bad English, but sadly it's not my main language!
Thank you for this context, its really appreciated
@@wornGuardian1 I'm glad you appreciated! Thanks!
"Hey, Dante. Will we meet again?"
Ten years later: queue Devil Trigger.
Thank god they didn't let the series die with crack head Donte
I'm still sad Gloria isn't her own character.
I know right such a let down
you didn't play the special edition and unlock the gloria skin?
@@skaven969 I think they wanted Gloria to be her own thing seprate from trish
@@ChrisTheSaiyanhog I can literally load up dmc4 special edition on ps4 and play as a gloria skin
@@skaven969 We're not talking about a Gloria skin. we're talking about her own character instead of just being Trish in disguise.
"After we defeat THE WINDOW"
I just love the cynical tone you used there.
"NordVPN? Heh, sorry kid. I don't buy that nerd crap." (hangs up)
StupidJellyfish Legit that sounds like something Dante would’ve said lmao
But have you heard of Raid shadow legend?
I still love how Dante just let's Nero wail on him for a bit before confusing him and then leaving.
I always just Headcanon that Dante goes back to this moment and just thinks how he's just introducing Nero into the family through the tradition. That is of not talking things out and just fight eachother. And also the world being in danger because of their family problem. Best Uncle.
Truly an uncle (likes to mess with his nephew) and trying to prepare him for Vergil ig by teaching him about the tradition (/j)
What makes it kinda sad is that after the events of DMC4 he kept his distance from Nero because he thought involving him too much in Sparda family stuff would lead him to getting hurt.
"Nero's combat is a bit flow charty."
After all these years, that's the best description I heard of DMC 4 Nero.
"Devil May cry 4 still rocks, despite of it all." Hell yeah it does. Preach!
Yup. Can't say the same thing about NT's sorry reboot!
Calling Kyrie "cute" is an incredible understatement.
I love her so much! She's my favorite girl from the series!
@laz kar the thing is.... I don't see the need to have each and every single female in this franchise be a, as you called 'demon-slaying badass', variety of characters allows for variety of tastes. I remember when Nico was introduced and was slightly criticized for not being an 11/10 Super Hot Model demon killer. And I was loving her since the very first trailer announcement.
Seeing Dante going up and down with two girls, seems to me that Itsuno wanted to even the score with Nero haha
I'd say pure and innocent
Kyrie should be like Eva in this generation.
I think Kyrie's character grew a lot stronger in DMC5 even though she got less screen time.
Although she did not help Nero's fight directly like Nico did, when Nero feels lost and uncertain of himself, she is the one who he turns to. And with just few words and showing mental support, she make Nero find the determination to do what's right.
It's clear that Kyrie plays an important role on making Nero the man he become.
As much of a trope what's-her-face is, Nero is such an awesome character, with an amazingly emotive voice actor and model, that he carries every scene for her. He is so obviously dedicated to her, and that shows every single time. I legit get chills and everything everytime I see it.
One thing I always loved about DMC4 was how Nero's struggle and Kyrie's "damsel in distress" ordeal reminded me of BLEACH with Ichigo and Orihime, and the fact Johnny voiced both Nero and Ichigo made it all the more ironic haha made for some dope mashup AMVs back 2010 onwards
This was my first DMC game and I absolutely loved it. I went back and played the other 3, DMC, and 5. This game holds a dear place in my heart. Can’t wait for 6!
I swear you should read audio books, such a relaxing and professional speaking voice.
i agree
This game is very special to me, when it came out it was days b4 or after my birthday, can’t recall exactly. Here in Wisconsin it was a crazy blizzard that night and my mom and dad drove out to get me a copy and drop it off to my house as a suprise. At that time things were going bad in my marriage, I was a new dad to a perfect little girl and struggling to pay all the bills especially the rent on the house my wife at the time NEEDED to move into. I’ll never forget seeing the headlights growing brighter against the snow watching out the front room picture window. It was my parents car and out ran my mom, trudging thru the quickly rising snow. It was after 9pm so it was completely dark out. It was so silent outside the only sounds were from the wind gusts and snow hitting the windows and siding. I opened the door to greet her I could hear the crunch of the snow under her feet in every step. She was bundled up but glowing with anticipation of giving me my suprise birthday gift. I get emotional just thinking about it as I write this. My parents have always gone to great lengths to make me and my sisters happy and I now I do the same for my own daughter. The game has it flaws but for me…it’s absolutely perfect.
Recently been playing DMC 4, I never gave it enough credit, I never realized how much fun it was and how deep the combat is. Since then I've been LOVING this game, despite it's flaws. I'm gonna be taking a break from DMC 5 to get acquainted and spend more time with 4, cause man, it is a BLAST! Also, since beating DMC 5, Nero has become my personal favorite character in the franchise
Using Jotaro's theme for the God Flying segment was fucking PERFECT
Sphere I hope you get to read this message. My family and I got bad news about my big brother and being in Afghanistan trying to come home. Even though we are all sad and upset, when I listen and watch your videos, your soothing voice lifts my spirits. Thank you. 💯
Suzi, you're vids are like THE most relaxing thing ever for early mornings and late nights with a bit of hot chocolate. Great narration as always. Stay awesome
7:18 - "Think of it as perma DT to limb"
**thinks about DMC5** Yeah, that seems about right xD
In the words of jontron "this did not age well"
That sneaky move of yours at 11:17
15:04 too XD
And lastly 30:37.
DMC 4 was the first Devil May Cry game I really remembered playing. I remember playing the first level of the original game a few times and rage quitting as a kid at Phantom. I beat Devil May Cry 2 but it wasn't really a game I remembered well and I never even tried 3.
4 however was a game I rented a few times and I loved it a lot. The gameplay was satisfying, the story was interesting and I loved the interactions between Nero and Dante. The music was kick-ass too. I never got the hate for this game, as to me, it was one of the best action games on the PS3/Xbox.
dmc 2 was bad at the time(i don't now if its now i bet it is ) , 3 was the best,1 is ok , i dont play the 5 yet but it looks good
That 'Out of Darkness' bit was interrupted by an Audible ad when Nero was about to grab Kyrie and I nearly burst out laughing
WoW that ad placement actually caught me off nice job with ad placement
I love Nero’s design in this game. It’s my favorite design in the series.
I prefer his Prototype outfit in SE but his DT in 4 is hands down the coolest design yet, even if it's just a Stand.
Girlfriend: DMC5 looks cool, which one should I play before I start 5?
Me: The time has come and so have I
>Girlfriend
And then you're wake up.
You: it's going to be a bit jarring, but bear with me.
Jotaro theme music for Dante? You are the greatest human being for this video even more now.
Such a great game breakdown and explanation into the magic of what DMC4 brings to the table. Well done as always. No title is perfect, but perfections are always present and should be appreciated. I love your perceptions and judgements of titles.
I’m glad Dante learned how to zip his coat up, going by that original design in the DMC4 tga reveal, but it’s a cool design nonetheless.
Sphere: “Hello, Mr. Dante?”
Me: “Ehhh....”
Sphere: “Did you know that nowadays, inter-“
Me: “EHHHHHHH!!!!”
Love ya Sphere, great video.
nichijou reference, nice
I laughed way too hard at “weird Lady Gaga mom” lmao
So this was my first Sphere Hunter video, and afterwards I've now gone back and watched most of the back catalogue. Just gotta say I love the content put out here and am excited for anything new in the future
That moment when you realize that Lady's DMC 4 outfit takes elements from DMC 3 Dante's
Jotaro's theme with dante flying is so good
The flying guards fit the rhythm of the song too.
Devil May Cry 4 has the best intro in the entire series, "I shall never surrender" is such an amazing song and fits perfect with the visuals
The intro song is "Out of Darkness" if you mean when Kyrie is singing.
@@zeroattentiongaming820 the song is shall never surrender even the chorus repeats till the very end of it
@@zeroattentiongaming820 you are talking about the prologue, that's a great song too I forgot about it
The load screen meant so much to me finishing 123 just before playing 4 for the first time
Personally, I'm really fond of the new protagonist literally drop-kicking the old one out of frame
"MY GAME!"
no matter how many times i play this game, i'll always cry from all the sad moments (i love my bby Nero so much)
Kyrie is in 11 cutscenes in dmc4 the only 2 where she isn’t being saved is when she is singing at the start of the game and when she gives Nero the red queen
Sphere Hunter: Kyrie
Captions:
Kid EA
Kitty 8
K DA
Key D yeah
Makes sense
I just watched through all your DMC videos last night, so seeing this in my subscriptions was a welcome surprise.
Amazing, This is the kind of honest review that I have always been looking for but couldn't quite put my finger onto. I still enjoy the heck out of the special edition to this day. You have mentioned all the details I wanted to address when talking about this entry, and your cool attitude had done well for this title in the best possible way. I really felt like I analyzed this series entry with a best friend over a drink. Thank you so much for putting all of this detailed care into this specific review, for reasons of my own this entry also holds a special place in my heart in spite of it all.
DMC4 was my first ever introduction the series. I remember seeing the cover and thinking Nero (Who I thought at the time was Dante) as the coolest character I had ever seen. It would be years until I played it, but man this game is amazing. I know you covered this years ago but this is a great watch!
After the series retcon that placed DMC4 after the events of DMC2, Dante's cold, get-it-done personality in the beginning makes much more sense. Then when Nero comes in and holds his own against Dante, Dante starts to slip back into his wacky woohoo pizza man personality from 3 (plus a little more seriousness thanks to DMC1) due to having the hunch that he's Vergil's son, and thus, one of Dante's own family.
Thank you so, so much for that tip with the dice. I got a friend of mine into Devil may Cry thanks to 5 and she wanted to see 4 as well to know more about Nero. I went through it, but the last level cost me nearly half an hour because I didn't know that trick.
Now am actually motivated to show her how Lady and Trish play like!