My Experience of being Sectioned | Mental Health Matters
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- Опубликовано: 14 апр 2019
- Today I've got another video for you as part of my mental health series where I talk about my experiences of being sectioned and admitted to a psychiatric hospital. It was obviously a very difficult time and there may be some triggering content in this video, so please do be careful if you are currently in a very bad place.
But I wanted to talk about this because I feel like it's important to be open about mental illness and the things associated with us, in the hope we can break the stigma and misunderstandings around it. Plus, I know when I was sectioned, I had never heard about it before and hadn't spoken to anyone about what it involved. So I hope this might help people who have been sectioned themselves or are looking at the prospect of being sectioned. But also I hope it helps to raise awareness more generally so people don't feel scared of mental health problems and can talk about mental illness openly.
If, after watching this, you have any questions or comments, please do let me know. And if there are any other videos you would like to see me make - either about sectioning, mental illness or anything else, please do tell me, as it really helps to know what sorts of things you would like to see.
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re: Sectioning. People are getting sectioned far too easily by social workers. There is an increasing number of foreign people (mamy who are african), with strong accents, hard to understand, who work in social care, that are illegally getting away with sectioning people who are not a risk to themselves or others. The 's.w.' does not even get to know the person, the person is not even consulted before being sectioned (a crime, & is not how anyone can be sectioned). And the people that have this done to them so easily, the ones who slip in the net, ordinary normal people, get abused with being held against their will, meds they should not even have since there is no evidence that they even need them. BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING, they do not even get to know the person. There should be a way that one can easily have a witness with them, e.g. family or friend, when taken to see the clinician. But even before that, they should be listened to, especially when a grave mistake is being made in sectioning them. For the silliest reasons this has happened, e.g. calling the call centre due to a break-in, the s.w. comes round & mistakenly takes the person away. THIS HAS HAPPENED. Another one, using a private dr, had a good diagnosis. However, nurse causes probs as not happy that the person is not using the nhs. S.W.'s are only too quick to rush in & take the person away. What's worse, is that they will deliberately lie about the person, clinician included, & the lies r so obvious. e.g. saying that someone from their family made a complaint about them (when in actual fact that never happened). The upsetting thing is that the person is held, & languishing, not given any days out. No advocate in their offices. And the clinician makes a whole lot of assumptions & guesswork, without even discussing with the person. And based on this, they proceed to give dangerous meds. This has happened too many times. And so, only when the person is discharged, a letter later comes with all the lies the clinicians said about the person. The poor person is not able to even address all these things & make their defence. They r only too glad to get away from the trauma. But these things must be addressed & their must be a way that they can indepdently state what happened to them (on some open website), and at the time, easily come out of being wrongly sectioned. YET, there is no easy way. THIS IS SUCH A CRIME, will never happen in any court of law. And is hurting a lot of normal ordinary folk, & damaging many!!
Have a look at what happened to this lady & many others she interviews, plus.... her name is Ramola D., her video: ruclips.net/video/CBl7dkZbXAE/видео.html.
ruclips.net/video/b1nfn3WEcN4/видео.html. ONE VIDEO THAT IS EYE OPENING. ruclips.net/video/ImjczN908Mo/видео.html. ANOTHER GOOD VIDEO, a real must see!
THIS ONE, just came across Mental Health Hospital Indicted For Holding Patients 'Involuntarily And Illegally', video: ruclips.net/video/KDNNTUvGkQI/видео.html. Happening a lot locally, & in UK
Deaths in the dark: last video: ruclips.net/video/QXFefdQ9Jfw/видео.html.
Sorry for the late reply. Sorry to hear about this happening. There are definitely improvements that need to be made to the process xx
The same thing happened to me in 2019. I had mold toxicity and mast cell activation (MCAS) I found out 2 1/2 years later. I got very sick, couldn’t eat bc of pain and having allergic reaction to everything. Kept going to ERs cuz breathing was difficult and throat would swell. Went to several specialists. No test results, wouldn’t believe me. No test results at hospital so they told me I was delusional and psychotic. It’s a very long story but very similar to yours. Got committed to a psychiatric hospital against my will. Had to go back to medical hospital to get NG tube cuz I weighed 77 lbs. Kept telling them the whole time it was a physical illness not a mental illness. They wouldn’t listen. Anyway I just sent my complaint letter to the medical board and both hospitals requesting they learn about my Illnesses so this doesn’t happen to anyone else like me and requesting disciplinary action against 2 of the psychiatrists. Will send the letter also to district attorney, state and federal psychiatric associations and anyone else I can think of. The psychiatrists have way too much power. And it’s an absurd and horrible state of affairs what they do to people.
Wow! Scary, but glad that you send those letters. I don't think that enough people do it! And that's why this continues to happen. also, I think that there should be independently run study done about how many people have been found to be physically ill and diagnosed later on. Because that could make a difference to the policies!
Sorry for the late reply - I haven’t been able to post/film for quite a while due to health. I’m so sorry you’ve had a similar experience. It’s really scary that we can be physically ill but if we’re not listened to or believed we can be locked up against our will. It’s good that you’re sending letters, as I think it’s important these things are challenged. Hopefully they will listen to your letters and that some change will be made xx
So many EDS patients who have been ignored and gaslighted end up with mental health issues. GP s must become more aware of their role in causing mayhem. And doctors must become more aware of the voice of their patients when they say something is wrong. Even if they cannot discover it.
Sorry for the late reply - I haven’t been able to post/film for quite a while due to health. Yes I’ve definitely noticed that mental health issues are, understandably, common in EDS patients who have been ignored and gaslit. I agree it would be good if doctors could become more understanding of their role and also really listening to their patients when we say something is wrong xx
EDS?
Hi Jenny, your story is very similar to what happend to me when i was a child. It is horrible when you are told over and over you are not unwell when you clearly are; in my case i was told i had ibs for two years and had munchausens by proxy when in actuality i had a chronic appendicitis with complications.
Of course when you are physically ill your mental health is affected.
You are not alone in how you feel and i cant say you will ever get over what happend but you were right.
You acted extreamly normal in an extremely abnormal situation x
This was so brave, telling your story. You are an amazing person
Thank you that's very kind of you x
You make a difference ❤
That was absolutely incredibly brave, and I know how fuckiny hard mental health issues can be. But I would never have this level of bravery and resolve. Very best of luck
Thank you for your comment. Sorry this reply is so late - I've been struggling to keep on top of things with my health, but am getting there slowly! Ah that's very kind of you - I just hope by sharing my story it will help other people to feel less alone :)
@@JennyCole1988 hi l have mild bipoler.
And l was very ill for 9 yrs
I had to take medication every day.
As l was really bad
But lm better now.
Thank you for sharing your experience, very open and brave. I hope you are continuing to be well/manage. Be safe
Thank you for sharing your story. You have been so courageous. You should be so proud of how far you’ve come. Your a great inspiration. 🌈
Nobody will ever know what it’s like until they go through it themselves.
Thank you so much for sharing your story. I thought it was incredibly heartfelt, clear, brave, and also very revealing about the ups and downs you've been through. I think it's also clear the mental health system in the UK has some major issues - of course, there are great staff but the general process, premises, treatment seem to lack empathy and compassion.
In short, the mental health assessment system seems to be quite bad for mental health.
Robert you are correct.
No empathy, crumbling buildings. locked doors and medicines.
That's all.
Robert, so glad to hear your response. When one is wrongfully d'd, it's horrific! I have so much to tell. What's your knowledge of the system?
Thank you for posting this.
Like many suddenly having to try and cope with a very poorly person, and mental health act and the normal concerns of hospitalisation when we don’t know anything about it is truly frightening.
Mental health really needs better support . I hope you are keeping as well as possible.
Having experienced hospital and CMHT ‘ care’ it has been quite traumatic. I’m so glad your family support you
Thank you for your comment Emma. I'm so sorry it's taken me so long to reply. My health hasn't been brilliant, so it's taking me a lot longer than I'd like to get things done, but I really appreciate you taking the time to leave a comment.
I'm so glad my video was helpful. I'm sorry it's something you have had experience of as well. Mental health absolutely needs better support (particularly better funding!) I hope you're doing as well as possible at the moment xx
Thank you so much for sharing about your mental health journey along side your physical health journey. 💛 It’s so difficult to get both talked seriously simultaneously. Almost like people think you can have one or the other, but not both or it cancels out your physical health struggles. We need more videos like this to raise awareness for and normalize the two not being mutually exclusive.
Sorry for the late reply - I haven’t been able to post/film for quite a while due to health. Thank you I’m so glad you found my video useful. Absolutely, I think it’s so important that people understand that you can have both physical and mental health problems at the same time. You’d think it would be common sense that they can affect each other! xx
Jenny Yes I understand your feelings about being scared all the time. Your instincts were serving you correctly , you have every right to be scared. You would find the population is made up of an odd mixture of people with mental illness , people with personality disorders and a smaller minority of people who are just "escaping justice" with a slight shade of crossover between all sets. I say this because I have been sectioned on a male ward on two occasions , both times misdiagnosed but I won't go into that here other than to say that one of my problems was head injury and PTSD. So it can be a bit frightening when your walking down a corridor and someone walking down the other way punches their first at your face and then stops it just at the last momentl Or you have to eat dinner with someone you know is a very violent criminal. Or you can see some people with such bad disorders , they bang their heads against a door all day and night and nobody does anything to stop it. But as for being frightened , I wasn't because I was in such deep trouble, that occupied 99% of my thoughts. Like where you had family to care for you , I only had one wicked relative who , ss luck would have it ,would greatly benefit from me being locked away for life , which he tried his utmost to do. I do feel scared now although I am out but still under tight dupervision for something that happened 15 years ago. My major concern is that if there is any glitch , like losing my benefits or becoming homeless I will find myself in a secure hospital or prison as I warrant no treatment and my relative still does not like me. If you are interested in some of the events that happened in there in just one 3 month span see "Inside of a UK Mental Hospital Documentary VLOG" and read my comment there. One thing I advise any one not to do is to make friends inside a mental hospital and meet up on the outside , the results can be at times disastrous.
Thank you for sharing. You are so brave! Keep fighting❤️
Thank you for watching Alyssa - that's very kind of you x
Very powerful video Jenny, thank you for sharing your experience.
Thank you Molly xx
Thanks for you story. Here in the states we call it involuntary commitment. I was just diagnosed with lupus last in October after living with pain for at least three years. One doctor almost laughed me out her office when I asked about being put on disability (welfare). I was under threat of eviction and am not in financial distress. I came very close to giving up. But I’m still here.
Sorry for the late reply. Sorry to hear you’ve suffered so long without a diagnosis - it’s so hard not being listened to or believed. I’m glad you’ve finally got answers and I hope it means you’re able to access the right treatment. I’m so sorry you were laughed at by a Doctor when you asked about being on Disability. It’s awful that some doctors can be so unkind. I’m really glad you’ve managed to keep going and still be here - it’s a hard task but you deserve to be here and happy xxx
Hi Jenny! Thank you for sharing your experience ❤🙏
Stumbled onto your video and I also have Ehlers Danlos! Thanks for sharing your experience.
Sorry I've been so terrible at replying to comments on my videos the last few months - I'm trying to catch up now so I can then hopefully keep on top of them! Thank you for watching my video - it's nice to 'meet' another person with EDS! I hope you're doing as well as possible xx
Can relate constantly in pain my tummy can’t eat and effecting my mental health now as like you Jenny they can’t find anything g wrong and think I am making it up
Good luck for the future and thank you for sharing video
Thank you for this my friend has been sectioned ..well a couple of weeks ago now and I'm not really sure what to do. Honestly it doesn't seem as though he wants to know me anymore but up until 2 months ago we were talking everyday then he just sort of said he didn't want to talk after years of being friends. Just want to be there for him really and help if I possibly can as he's one of the few people I actually like (well I like most people but you know what I mean) suppose the thing is unless you've been through it you can't really understand and when someone's not thinking straight whilst you may want to try and talk and reason with them sometimes it just needs time I guess? Anyway. Thanks again very informative video really hope you are keeping well now [:
Sorry for the late reply. I’m really sorry to hear your friend was sectioned. Hopefully they’re at least now getting the help and support they need. It can be really hard to know what to do, especially when someone is trying to push you away. My advice would be to just keep being there for them in a gentle way, so they don’t feel too overwhelmed. And hopefully with time and as they hopefully get better, they will see just how good a friend you are to them and start to feel like their old self again. Do look after yourself too, as it’s really hard to see a loved one going through mental illness and feeling rejected by them. Just know that you are a good friend and that it’s not your fault that they’re rejecting your friendship at the moment. Time is a great healer so hopefully with time you will get your friend back again xxx
@@JennyCole1988 thank you for the reply 🧡 I think they might be getting better, well they've recently been allowed home from hospital is all I know. Had limited contact with their mum - and whilst she doesn't tell me much I'm kind of glad and reckon she's doing the right thing. Because at the end of the day they are an adult ..and I don't like having to be 'sneaky' in that sense (though I've told my friend I've spoken with their mum if they've read any of my messages) and if they more than likely don't trust me it seems off talking to their mum doesn't it. But yes 5 months on I've not heard a thing and have been blocked. No idea what happened honestly all I can put it down to is that ..well to them I am obviously better off ignored / out of their life. Hard to not take it personally in a way isn't it and hard not to get frustrated - do sometimes. But then I just try to think that what they have been through / are possibly going through will have been extremely hard - and well - if someone doesn't want to know someone they don't want to. Was texting and calling weekly or so sometimes a bit more sometimes a bit less - but nothing ever went through so reluctantly messaged from another number recently asking them to get in touch, heard nothing back from that so I'm going to try to leave it. As you say ..being there for someone is important isn't it but after a point it starts to feel more like harassment and could end up causing more stress for someone. Life is very confusing sometimes! Sorry for this long rant-y reply though the whole thing has been on my mind a lot people seem to be saying the best thing to do now though is to move on. Very good advice in the reply though it's good to hear from someone who has experienced similar hardship I hope you are doing okay nowadays and managing to keep fairly well mentally? ..Hopefully the future will be good for us even if life is hard 🌞
I think you’re an incredibly strong woman. It’s like you’re reading my life story. It’s taken years to be diagnosed with m.e/cfs and even now they have no care for how I get by day to day. Cfs me needs so much more awareness. So does Tds. I am worried now about seeing my gp incase they section me because I am so underweight. How much did u weigh can I ask when u was sectioned? X
You are amazing babe, well done
Hi Jaelle,
Thank you for your comment - sorry it's taken me so long to reply - I've been struggling to get on top of things recently with my health not being great. But I really appreciate you taking the time to comment. It was really kind of you to leave such a lovely comment, thank you! xx
Thank you Jenny for sharing this, it is tough and emotional to watch.
As you may know, it is a very similar story to what we experienced. Even though you say, it was probably what you needed or at least aided in your recovery, the process for sectioning is very flawed, and more so when the staff in the psychiatric hospital don’t have the right knowledge and experience of eating disorders.
Are you OK for me to share this on my social media sites?
Graham Foxwell
Hi Graham - apologies for only just replying. Thank you for your comment. Whenever I think about that time, I often think about your family's experiences too, as I spoke with T quite a lot before I was sectioned and she was able to help me a lot using her experiences of the situation. I completely agree that there are so many flaws in the system. Yes absolutely happy for you to share on your social media, thank you
I have been asked to go to Adult Acute Psychiatric Admission and Assessment Ward tomorrow for a "chat" so I am hell anxious about that but thank you for your video!
So sorry for the delay in replying. How did your chat go? I really hope it was a positive and helpful experience for you xx
Thanks for sharing your story. it's great u got to go to a day patient clinic afterwards. How long did that last x
Thank you for watching. Yeah I was lucky that after a lot of fighting (mainly from my parents) I was able to access day patient treatment. I think I was a day patient for around 6-7 months (although it's all a bit hazy, so I can't remember exactly) before I was moved to a less intensive programme where I attended twice a week during the day xx
Thank you for sharing x
Hearing what you said about the hospital not believing you is exactly what is happening with me too the point that im having anxiety attacks when I have too go into hospital for treatment for my blood disorder i cant get the blood and my hemoglobin level is dangerously low to the point im having chest pains but I dont trust the drs
I feel being treated the same Jenny very brave of you totally dismissed but have pain in tummy all the time can’t eat either they say nothing So many tests and nothing comes back wrong. Did they find anything wrong in the end so interesting thank you
Very brave thanks for sharing. how did you improve your mental health x
Thank you, and thank you for watching. It's definitely been a long journey and things are still pretty wobbly unfortunately. But I think a combination of medication, therapy and trying to find distractions when I'm really struggling. And just taking it a day at a time. Some days are awful and I still struggle a lot, but I try not to beat myself up if I relapse/have a blip and start afresh the next day. Sorry it's not a more straightforward answer, but I hope it helps a bit x
Mental Health Act should be Dismantled
❤ I was first diagnosed with schizophrenia back in may 1978 but it was changed to bipolar after my father intervened. Am now in my own bungalow in Norfolk with 24/7 care on a section 117 but will reduce that in a few weeks. Thanks for your insight, how do I enrol in the college?
You are so amazing Jenny. How did you find getting Dr's to take your gastro symptoms seriously post section? Xxx
Thank you, that's really kind of you. When I was sectioned, all the doctors just seemed to focus on my mental health and blamed my gastro symptoms on them. It took a few years of me improving my mental health before anyone would really take me seriously again. I think after that, getting diagnosed with Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome was the big changing point, as once I had that diagnosis confirmed, my gastro symptoms were taken more seriously. But it was definitely a long old journey unfortunately x
Dr are Horrible addressing gastric problems I been to 20 doctors and all of them were useless
in 2006 my friend took his own life i was turning 16 that year thats how i developed scitzophrenia i hear voices but im better as long as i take my meds im good, tho i sustinctly remember the doctors wanting to section me twice the first time i bolted out of the hospital at 1 in the morning and ran to my grandmothers house about a mile away it was scary
Sorry for not replying sooner - I’ve been struggling with my health. I’m so sorry to hear about your friend. That must have been awful to experience. I’m glad your medication helps you. Sorry to hear you’ve been close to being sectioned. It’s a really difficult thing to go through. I hope you’re doing OK at the moment xx
@@JennyCole1988 yeah i'm great now i attend a wee mental health day centre up the road about2 or 3 miles away from my house at the moment its a gd thing lol thank you xx
You are a brave woman
Sorry I've been so terrible at replying to comments on my videos the last few months - I'm trying to catch up now so I can then hopefully keep on top of them! Thank you that's really kind of you to say
Hiya Jenny. Just seen your excellent video. How are you keeping.
it might be in your head what you see on this point it is essential the carer explains the trespass on your property ?
It's as if I'm TALKING TO MYSELF rather than the fucking other person, and they might as well be speaking a different language to me!!
Bitterness - Why It Is a Real Psychological Concern: youtube.com/@MindWebteam:
I'm not wanting to asking any questions anymore these days because I'm always afraid of them coming out as stupid questions and then resulting in negative responses from family members!! My parents becoming depressed because of being affected by my mental issues is what is causing my frustration!! So from now on I'll simply snap at the people on this forum and continue writing nasty things on Facebook until I'm able to get help!!
Sorry for not replying sooner - I’ve been struggling with my health. Sorry you don’t feel able to ask questions for fear of them seeming stupid. That must be really difficult. Sorry to hear it’s causing you frustration that your parents are becoming depressed. I really hope you’re able to get the help you need soon xx
I wonder if they prescribed you antidepressants or some pills?
I can't believe you would even ask that and would rather you didn't post any comments at all!!
Yes they prescribed some medication for me x
I met you in the arsenal stay vacation, Sonia
Please can someone who has self sectioned help me. Please
and what public scrutiny is their and does that mean i can launder money by sectooning some1 that has no idea about other than every one as new cars new stuff like money is falling out the sky ??
Good looking girl with beautiful white teeth. Wish you well.
i got sectioned in virginia, usa.
Sorry for the late reply. I’m sorry to hear you were sectioned. I hope you’ve managed to get the help you needed and that you’re doing as well as possible at the moment xxx
Vlll. Ye shall not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Yet these were the exact circumstances about my section.
Be carefull of what you see
One and one does not always add to 3.
That was absolutely incredibly brave, and I know how very hard mental health issues can be. But I would never have this level of bravery and resolve. Very best of luck
Are you British ? Because this sounds so similar to several hospital admissions in Lincolnshire, for lupus
Yep I'm British - I'm from down in Hampshire. I've heard so many people with chronic illnesses who have been through similar things. It's sad that if the answer isn't straightforward, it is often just put down to mental health rather than investigating further xx
Hi there it's Sept 2020 ~ I just clicked on to "Jenny Cole" and found a boring old lady using your name... Will the REAL Jenny Cole please stand up? (the interesting one i.e. YOU)
Thank you for your comment - I really appreciate you taking the time to leave one . Sorry it's taken me so long to reply - I've been struggling to keep on top of things with my health, but getting there slowly! Ah thank you - there must be another person with the same name as me out there! xx
The police just mentioned that the victim's cause of death was ruled as suicide by multiple self-inflicted stab wounds to their neck as a result of severe mental health issues!!
What do you mean multiple self-inflicted stab wounds?!?! You can't be saying stuff like that without even listening!! You clearly haven't been listening - neither has ANYBODY ELSE for that matter!!
All very interesting. You have a history of eating disorders having been admitted to a adolescent unit in the past. Later on in life you started complaining about your physical health, you had test after test that did not produce any significant results so medics thought you were faking symptoms. You then stopped eating until the point you had be to sectioned as you were so malnourished. The shock of being sectioned and your liberties restricted made you start eating until you reached a healthy weight. You were then discharged from the hospital and accepted into an eating disorder clinic. A treatment option you were offered previously. I hope psychological therapy has helped identify the cause of your eating disorder and you are now more in control of your life. Best wishes.
Thank you for your comment and for your best wishes. Sorry this message is a bit lengthy - I just wanted to clarify/expand on a few of your comments, as perhaps I hadn’t made them clear in the video. My physical health problems came first - I’ve been having problems with my physical health since birth, but they had never been joined together/given a name. At the age of around 15, my physical health significantly declined (years later we now understand why, but at the time none of my doctors spotted what was wrong). It was only after I had been having problems with my physical health for quite a while that my mental health (and therefore eating disorder) were triggered. It was a year or two after that, that I went into an adolescent unit to try and help with my mental health (mainly my depression, although in the later months they gave a bit of eating disorder support).
With regards to being sectioned, my mental health and eating disorder had been pretty stable for a number of years while I continued to struggle with my physical health. In 2012, my digestive symptoms really flared up and despite continuing to try and eat and to get help for those physical symptoms, I was losing weight, in a lot of pain etc. After various tests didn’t give us a diagnosis, I was admitted to a general hospital to be exclusively tube fed, as my gastroenterologist hoped that by giving my digestive system a break (by having what is essentially a pre-digested feed), it might help things to settle down a bit and basically ‘re-set’ things. As soon as I was admitted to hospital, the ward staff (not the doctors) were treating me like I was making it all up (they would often openly talk amongst themselves about my situation so I could hear them). Whilst in hospital, they did a couple more tests that didn’t bring any results, and so decided they would just take the tube out and send me home. I had barely gained any weight on the tube and was still unwell with my physical symptoms. Spending years struggling with my physical symptoms and being treated like I was making it all up understandably had a huge affect on my mental health, including triggering my eating disorder again. Sadly it’s a story I have heard so many times among people with harder to diagnose chronic conditions. A year or so later, my gastroenterologist said that they hadn’t meant for me to feel that they thought I was making it up, and that she should have explained that what they meant was, that they just hadn’t found/didn’t have access to the right test to identify the problem.
I stopped eating (technically I hadn’t started eating, as I was being exclusively tube fed) because I had a mental breakdown. I was already incredibly malnourished due to months of my digestive problems flaring up and just couldn’t face going on any more knowing I wasn’t being believed. I wanted to die. This is when I was sectioned. And yes, it was a wake-up call - mainly because I saw what me not fighting to keep going was doing to my family. I started trying to push through the physical symptoms by eating very small amounts of puréed foods (under direction from a Dietitian, as you can’t just start eating normally and also my digestive symptoms were still making things very difficult). I didn’t reach a healthy weight while I was sectioned. When my mental health was a bit more stable, I was able to be discharged home and go to a day patient eating disorder programme. This was incredibly difficult because my physical symptoms weren’t taken into account, so I had to deal with being physically more unwell while I used a mixture of food and nutritional drinks to try and gain some weight. I knew no one would take my physical health problems seriously while I was under treatment for an eating disorder/severe depression (my doctors said as much), so I knew I needed to try and gain a bit of weight and deal with the symptoms until things were a bit more stable mentally. The only time the eating disorder clinic had been mentioned was when I was still being tube fed (and they were discussing taking it out) and was told they would only take me if I started eating completely normally before I went. At that point in time, I was already slipping into a deep depression because I felt so unwell physically and felt I wasn’t being listened to, couldn’t think clearly due to being very malnourished and was being given no support (either physically or mentally) to go from being exclusively tube fed to eating normally. If communication had been better in hospital and they had been able to give more physical and mental health support to try and transition from the tube to a mixture of food and nutritional drinks, then perhaps I wouldn’t have reached the point of needing to be sectioned. But I don’t personally feel there’s much point in thinking of ‘what ifs’ as they won’t change anything.
After stabilising my mental health, I was transferred to a new GP, who pretty much immediately realised what was wrong with me and did the necessary referrals. I was diagnosed with a genetic condition called Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, and after this, was referred to a professor in London who did a couple of different tests, which showed I have delayed gastric emptying and intestinal Dysmotility (very common in people with EDS and explained the digestive symptoms I’ve been struggling with for years). After reading my medical notes, we found out that, when I was a baby, the paediatrician I had been referred to had written that they believed I had a connective tissue disease, however this was never communicated to my parents and so was never investigated. Again, if they had been made aware of this when I was a baby, and I’d received an early diagnosis, my mental health may not have got in the state it did (but again, it is what it is and we got there eventually).
Since getting my physical health problems diagnosed, and speaking to my doctors and a therapist, my mental health has been a lot more stable. We all agree that my physical health problems and not having the correct diagnosis for so many years definitely contributed to triggering my mental health problems. Would I still have had the eating disorder, depression etc if I’d got my early diagnosis? It’s impossible to say, but getting the right diagnoses now and seeing the right doctors has drastically improved my mental health. Don’t get me wrong, I still struggle with it and have to be careful if my digestive problems get bad and cause me to lose weight, because I know that can then trigger my eating disorder. But I’m now not under any mental health services and am reducing my psychiatric medications. And am, instead, now able to focus on managing my physical problems knowing I’m getting the right care and support. Hope that helps expand on things a bit, but happy to answer any questions
@@JennyCole1988 Hey, I think that the video do cut short in not explaining that later on you got real diagnosis for physical illness and how long it took.
maybe you can add a little part to the end of the video to clarify it or add it as a text to the video. I think it would clear out it to people who do not know anything else about your story, but only see this video.
You are awesome btw!!! ❤❤❤
@@JennyCole1988 Your video made it very clear that you were diagnosed with EDR.
I am not as gracious as you. @David Hawkins I am glad you aren’t a doctor. Your empathy and listening skills are lacking somewhat.
Jenny, thank you for sharing your story and how a physical illness affects you mentally especially when your voice isn’t heard.
I hope your health is better now. 🌟❤️
I'm not keen on living in any house or apartment anymore because of how much being on the autism spectrum gets in the way of life and everything in it. I don’t get why life has to be so unbearable and unpleasant for someone with my mental condition. After I find myself in a residential mental health care facility, I just hope I don't end up becoming a burden to special needs care nurses or a danger to myself later on in life - especially as someone who is too mentally fragile to cope with life.
I'm so sorry you feel that way and that your condition is making things so unbearable for you. I do hope you're getting the support you need xx
@JennyCole1988 What does your SEVERE DEPRESSION have to do with ANYTHING?!?! I asked a question, the dude gave his view!! You've just tried to make it ALL ABOUT YOU - a very sad way of thinking that will only lead you FURTHER DOWN A DARK PATH!!
SUICIDE PREVENTION AND MENTAL HEALTH AWARENESS!!!!!!!!: All I’ve done is try to change the subject and talk about something else!! Anyway, I’m not going to argue with any of the fucking people on this mental health forum or start any FIGHTS here, because I’m going through ENOUGH in my fucking personal life!! I would prefer to just stay out of everyone's way and not bring up ANY SUBJECT AT ALL!!
My severe depression has caused me to lose complete interest in the activities I once enjoyed, I find myself not being in the mood for anything at all and have a habit of experiencing this inability to cope with life let alone feel any pleasure.
I am considering checking into a mental health hospital and having mental health staff section me under the Mental Health Act. The plan is to spend a long time in mental health care and have a mental health support team.
So sorry for the delay in replying. I'm so sorry to hear your depression is making things so difficult for you. It's such a hard place to be. Definitely reach out to your GP to ask for some help, as it sounds like you could really benefit from some support xx
Bitterness - Why It Is a Real Psychological Concern: I am considering being referred for mental health support after I leave home and start living away from my family. It's best I
look into residential rehabilitation centres for those with severe depression and other severe mental health issues where I will have access to mental health care facilities and therapeutic intervention programmes. I'm not even keenly on living in any house or apartment because of being too mentally fragile to cope in any environment. I just hope I don't end up becoming a burden to my mental health team by raising mental health concerns because one day I won't be able to cope with life anymore.
Bitterness - Why It Is a Real Psychological Concern: Your personal issues have nothing to do with your mental health team, though, so why burden them with what you are going through in your personal life?!
Sorry that you worry about becoming a burden to your mental health team. I don't think that could happen though, as it's literally their job to help people with mental illness, so you should never be a burden to them. I guess I would disagree that your personal issues don't have anything to do with your mental health team. It's so important to talk to your mental health team about what's going on for you in your life, as that's how they are able to help people to recover. I hope you can get the mental health support you're looking for when you need it xx
Is it considered morbid for someone with severe depression and other severe mental health issues to have brutal thoughts of suicide, regardless of how much of a troubled soul that person is?
Bitterness - Why It Is a Real Psychological Concern: LIVING WITH SEVERE DEPRESSION AND DAMAGED MENTAL HEALTH [231201-000000]:
I'm not sure any amount of professional counselling or mental health therapy will help at this point - even when I start living in a residential mental health care facility and getting involved in suicide prevention programmes after having been referred to a mental health team. I already see myself becoming bitter and psychologically damaged later on in life and then looking back on this time with BITTERNESS ten years from now! What if I end up taking out my severe depression on others and ruining innocent lives by carrying out a mass shooting such as at a mental health hospital?! What if I end up with other severe mental health issues such as schizophrenia and then end up unaliving myself in the most brutal way as a result of not being able to cope with life?! For someone like me, life is unpleasant and not worth living!
Bitterness - Why It Is a Real Psychological Concern: ruclips.net/user/MindWebteam: Someone from Mencap fucking mentioned that his sister with DOWN'S SYNDROME died a few months ago at the age of twenty-two, I simply snapped at this person, because I wasn't interested. "What does that have to do with ANYTHING at all?!" was my acid tongue response.
From now on I've decided not to bother asking any questions anymore. Mum is always saying that I like to ask funny questions, although I don't. I'm afraid of asking questions and prefer not to ask any type of question at all, because I don't want people giving me funny looks and then staring at me oddly.
And also I would appreciate it if you didn't share any of your personal life stories on here, I'm not coming out with this to be nasty towards you. I wish people would keep their personal experiences to themselves.
Sorry for the late reply. Sorry that you don’t feel able to ask questions any more because you worry people will give you funny looks.
A lot of people find it helpful to share personal experiences with others and learn from other peoples’ experiences. But if you’d prefer not to see my content you can unsubscribe so it doesn’t come up on your feed xx
@Jenny Cole I wasn’t being immature or causing any offence! All I ever said was that I find it UPSETTING when other people are laughing at me because it is considered very cruel for someone like me to be laughed at! All I ever want is to be treated in the same way I see other fellow human beings being treated. At times I see life as meaningless and not worth living.
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People shouldn’t laugh at someone on the autism spectrum, because it is considered very cruel and upsetting - especially when other fellow autistics are laughing at me and the support workers point this out. That is why I've been having thoughts of unaliving myself, even though this scares people.
Also, I find the other comments on this forum to be immature and worthless, such as mentioning that euthanasia should be an option for the severely mentally disabled and those with severe mental health issues. I would prefer not to be part of the human race because of how messed up human beings are!
What YOU said in front of these people was rather immature as well - and very rude! That you would prefer to not be part of the human race because of how messed up human beings are! Especially when you yourself are psychologically messed up!
I wasn’t being immature or causing any offence! All I ever said was that I find it UPSETTING when people are laughing at me because it is very cruel for someone like me to be laughed at!
Sorry for not replying sooner - I’ve been struggling with my health. I’m not sure if you meant to write this somewhere else, as this isn’t a mental health forum and I’m not sure what situations you’re referring to. But I hope you can get the help you’re looking for xx
@@JennyCole1988 RE: Bitterness and Severe Depression: I don't get your response to this messed up comment! What is the point of even responding in the first place?!
Bitterness - Why It Is a Real Psychological Concern: You bringing money to that place and someone stealing it - that's extremely TOUGH!! OKAY?!?! I'm not coming out with this to be nasty towards you OR the people at the Mind Mental Health Charity - you have to understand that other people have got enough problems of their own and are going through ENOUGH in their personal lives!
Sorry I'm not quite sure what you're referring to as I didn't talk about having money stolen?
Bitterness - Why It Is a Real Psychological Concern: LIVING WITH SEVERE DEPRESSION AND DAMAGED MENTAL HEALTH [231201-000000]: OKAY!!!! But you fucking started it by pouring out your personal life woes on a public mental health forum!! You shouldn’t have mentioned your severe depression and other personal issues in the first place!!
The people on this mental health forum need to stop being dramatic for crying out loud when sharing their mental health struggles. I am not trying to sound nasty or anything.
Sorry for not replying sooner - I’ve been struggling with my health. I’m not sure which mental health forum you’re referring to I’m afraid. I guess everyone experiences their mental health differently, so it may seem dramatic to one person but to another is how they experienced things xx
Jenny don’t worry about Anne
You have told your story and inspired many
Sending more love ❤
@@channietheo8365 You really are one nasty piece of work, AREN'T YOU?!?!
@channietheo8365 But it doesn't really make ANY sense, though, DOES IT?!?! You responding to this random message out of nowhere!! I just wish you and everyone else would stop!! Anyway, I'm not going to argue with any of the people on this mental health forum or start any FIGHTS here, because I'm going through ENOUGH in my fucking personal life!!