I've been keeping a secret from you | BREAKING NEWS WITH FOXY ROXY
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2024
- Hi folks!
Breaking News with Foxy Roxy 🤭. I have a few general updates to share, but also a bit of an announcement that I'm seeking your advice on. I have a plan in the works and looking for a few recommendations from those of you with experience on this!
As of now, the 'polar vortex' has passed, thank goodness cuz it was mighty cold 🥶 . Now, we've got heaps of snow, which is great, but also always presents challenges for us. Winter in the Canadian mountains is just a different ball of wax!
Little update on the pets, a few bloopers, and I'll see you next week out at the cliff!
Thanks for watching and hope you all are doing well!
M 💕
(for those of you wanting to know what was in her glass - it was diet ginger ale 😝)
On the size of your shop, just consider that in 40 years of building garages, shops, etc., NEVER ONCE have I ever heard the complaint, “I wish I had built a smaller shop!” So, add 10 ft to whatever size you think you need. Just my opinion of course.
Building a workshop is like buying a safe - always go larger than you think you'll need because you'll quickly fill it up and run out of space.
Based on my past experience, make your shop bigger now. 16 x16 is pretty small. By the time you store your tools and supplies you'll be close to using half of the square footage. And... it's always nice to have a big rolling workbench that can be moved to the middle of the shop for projects. You won't regret making it larger and you will probably wish you went even bigger!!! LOL.
Truly. You'll ACTUALLY want to consider something more along the line of 20X40. Again, you WILL fill it up pretty fast and the key is that you WILL need room to work within it, hint, hint. hint. Consider a wood stove too so you can heat it during those Brrrr months and work long hours; and put out more vids! 😉
Agree, 16 x 16 is pretty small. I have a double car garage 18 x 20. I would love to have at least a three car garage.
Yes, plan on building it the size of a Walmart and negotiate on downsizing. At the very least make it 20x16 with the rafters running the 20 ft span, and room to extend the length of the building in the future if needed
My helpful hint for the woodshop is to make all your worksurfaces the same height as your table saw so they can be used for infeed, outfeed, and workpiece support. Also, double doors in front and dutch doors in the back, lower half same height as table saw, so you can run long board through.
Can confirm. I have two benches on opposite ends of my small shop and all my other surfaces are at this same, exact height. It comes in very useful when processing all manner of long-ish pieces.
Michy, The new work shop will be a boon for all of your furture projects. Don't forget to add a "Green Room" for Foxy's guest interviews. She will also need a proper dressing room, with full length mirror and bar plus a personal assistant to help prepare for future on air broadcasts. One thing I will suggest is build the workshop as big as you can with a covered area off the front so that projects can be spread out and worked on in all weather. I love your creativity so much. Ya make me laugh girl!
Nancy!!! How did you know I wanted to have a separate room for all my skits!!?! 😂
Agree - a large covered area outside (with I’m thinking a garage door) so that I can work outside as often as possible 👍👍
Is it feasable to move the sawmill closer to the shop?
As far as shop size. I have seen some small shops. The owners were constantly putting away one tool just to make room to setup the next one. Lots of nonproductive time amd effort.
Imo for a diy personal shop I wouldn’t go any smaller than 20x20 or 24x24. Gable, mansard, or gambrel style roof is a must for attic storage.
I added an overhang to a small shop I had and it was wonderful. It gave me somewhere to work on messy projects (i.e. planing, routering, etc.) even when it was raining.
Our biggest regret is location! Plan that WELL! And of course size… this is our 3rd workshop build and of course it still isn’t big enough. lol it never is
Good luck
I've had a few woodworking shops and I'll always advocate for high ceilings. Moving an eight foot plywood panel or any long boards can be an issue with any standard height ceiling. I'd opt for at least ten feet but prefer twelve.
A built-in work bench around at least two walls with windows everywhere.
Outlets every few feet at the workbench level.
Dust collection and air filtration are important.
I had dust collection ports between every power outlet on my wraparound workbench.
A large overhead garage door for moving in lumber and projects out.
Lots and lots of lighting.
A separate finishing room that is as dust-free as possible for your painting and finishing needs.
I could go on!
I'm so jealous too but am happy to know you're finally going to build a shop. 🎉
My recommendation is to layout your shop with tools in an open area and then try to use them. That will quickly tell you what space you need. Ex. A thickness planer needs 22-23 feet just to plain a short 10ft board ( also have 2 opposing doors inline with the planer for longer boards). Lastly long and narrow is better than a big square. For the reasons above and it makes for much simpler roof trusses.
As they say, “Nutty as a fruitcake!” But what a great lifestyle. With the area you have to play with, at least 16’x16’, good heating in the winter, and good open access in the summer. What a great project.
The snow is so beautiful! "Steve doesn't want to get rid of them. I'll work on that." Hilarious! 🤣
Definitely go bigger than you ever imagine using. Atleast 24 by 16. Leave one door plenty big so you can work partially outside when the weather is nice. Having a cement floor really helps in moving equipment around when space is limited. Try and get enough electricity to supply 240v. Theres a lot of equipment that requires 240v. This will really be exciting for you. Cant wait to see how it goes.
Size of the workshop kind of depends on what you plan to do in it, and what tools you intend to populate it with. Mine is 24x24, my big tools are a table saw, a band saw, and a drill press. I also wanted decent storage and enough space to park a vehicle in to work on out of the weather if needed.
Happy birthday to Steve and what a sweet thing for a viewer to pay for your tire!
A couple of additional considerations - First you can use dry sawdust and small cuttings in a cylindrical metal stove for space heating. You keep a round post with a stub loosely strapped 90 degrees to it in the shop to use as a tamping-form around which to pack in the sawdust. The post gets seated into the bottom of the stove, the stub strap gets placed high around the vertical post at the level of the flue exhaust port, and sawdust gets poured and tamped around the post stub.
Remove the post then the stub and a two-inch right-angle cylindrical channel remains. Start the fire at the bottom of the channel and it will thoroughly burn the sawdust from the inside out. Used to be very common in some European areas having lots of forest & woodworking.
Second, an overhead crane can be extremely useful at times. Best thing to move and support heavy material under complete control by yourself.
If you plan to use it extensively (which you will), insulate and heating/cooling. World of difference having a reasonably comfortable shop to work in without waiting an hour to warm up
I live on a Homestead myself in the middle of nowhere. My tip from me is to go 24 x 24 because you’re going to use this not only as a Wood work shop but also a repair shop for all your equipment / home projects and all your things that need fixing. This way you can bring a vehicle/trailer/2wheeler/Just use your imagination anything that needs to be worked on when needed to be fixed or upgraded! Bigger is always better👍You will run out of room sooner than you believe. But keep it simple, all tables same height as your tablesaw and everything on rollers if you can. And always put in more outlets than you think you’ll need. Good lighting also! I built my dream workshop about six years ago and it hasn’t ended. You will love it.!! Have fun with it and take your time! And, oh yes, don’t forget a stove👍👍👍😎🇨🇱🇺🇸
Hi Michael,
I’m David from Argent imagination Jewelry.
Love your content.
Your shop should be a least 12’x16’ with 6” studs and a 10’ ceiling. Have a roof overhang on the 16’ side of 4’. It will keep your stored lumber dry. Install a 9’x9’ garage door and a 36” steel entry door. Make sure you have a vapor barrier under the slab so your tools won’t rust. Install a wood stove to burn scrap wood for heat.
The realism of the BTS / shivering at the end, was priceless!!
Somebody should probably send a memo to Foxy Roxy, letting her know she's wielding a paint scraper, not a microphone. The mix-up is almost Grammy-worthy! I'm anticipating the Michygoss workshop, I read that someone suggested 24x24, If it were me 20x30.
Michy...16x16 is the smallest I would go. Consider your tools and supplies, then figure on room for tripods and lighting etc, You'll want room to move around safely. Once you get a good Table Saw, you'll want to add other tools as well (jointer, planer, sander, grinder, drill press, workbench) it starts taking up floor space pretty quickly! Don't forget plenty power outlets and good LED Lighting. And Please Stay Safe!
I worked in a 12’x24’ basement shop for years and was constantly moving equipment around to be able to use it. I now have a 30’x30’ shape and still wish it was bigger. I’ve got a full sized cabinet saw, bandsaw, jointer, surface planer, drum sander, drill press, dust collector, chop saw woodworking bench and lathe and I’m still moving things around. Don’t forget that your wood stove will need clearance from combustible materials and you’d appreciate an assembly table for your projects. I do cabinetry and furniture and I wired my shop with 10 220v outlets and probably 25 120v outlets. More is better 😊
I built a little 9'x12' in the backyard (limited by HOA) but what I always hear from buddies who have more land is to Increase the build by 50-100% no matter what. 16'x16' will fill up quicker than you would ever imagine. Don't plan on it being too tall as not much work ever gets done in the lofted areas. It just turns into storage...or a Phil&Buster AirBnB.
Excited to see what's in store!
Happy Bday, Steve.
Dave - What a guy!
The storage above may save her from stuff on the floor. Every time I built a workshop, my significant other puts all her stuff in it for storage. That's happened 4x and I don't have a shop. But all the saddles and bicycles, etc, are cozy.
Plan a sound insulated closet to house your dust collection and air compressor. Run air & dust collection lines overhead to connect to all tools. Give yourself a few overhead retractable power drops as well. These come in handy when you need to use a tool in a location you hadn't planned on.
Build a curb around the floor so that you can spray things down and not worry about damaging your walls.
Yeah, I can help you out. Two things to keep in mind, you will be handling a lot of lumber. You will be constantly stubbing boards into the walls. Better to have a 10x20 than a 16x16 shop. Better yet, a 16x20! Put a double door in the end so you can easily move materials and projects in and out. Keep in mind overhead room as well. Hope this helps.
As most everybody has said, make it as large as you can. My suggestion would be to build it where you have room for a shed over the sawmill and make the roof eave high enough to load logs on it with your equipment. Handy to be able to saw no matter the weather.
What is not to love about Foxy Roxy? Hey looking forward to seeing the new workshop build!
I'm glad that you're going to have a shop. Two data points: 1) many woodworkers use a single garage which measures about 12 x 20 feet. 2) My shop is smaller in my basement at 8 x 22 feet with the door on the small end. It does open into my garage, so that's helpful. I can make just about anything that I want in this space. The only power tool that I don't have is a jointer, which I don't need. You may want one if you will mill your own boards. I personally think that length is more important than width (so that you can handle long boards). Rectangular spaces seem to just work better, in my opinion.
Since you'll be providing your own lumber and using salvaged roofing, I would go MUCH bigger than 16x16.
- If you are dead set on 16x16, at the very least plan so that it will not be a hassle to expand on to your workshop - say to add an 8x16 addition.
- If you have your table saw, chop saw, drill press, and band saw, measure them and draw a diagram of where they would go.
- Better yet, use lined graph paper and make to-scale cutouts of your big tools. Play around with how you could station them in your workshop.
- Excess wood and scrap wood storage is my next biggest space user.
- You'll need a good-sized workbench. Mine is not big enough, so I go back and forth from my table saw to my workbench - but then my workshop is 15x12. If you are planning to use your workshop to do craft projects that require lumber, etc. make sure your workbench is large enough to lay things out on. A 2-foot wide by 7-foot long workbench is NOT a good idea (I speak from experience). You'll want it wider - by at least a foot.
- Factor in open shelves or cabinets to store the endless number of screws, nails, etc.
- Don't forget pegboards to hang tools from.
- Be very sure that you provide an outlet that has enough power for your big voltage tools. The last thing you'll want to do is reset the breaker when you are using your table saw.
- Think about dust collection. Chop saws and to a lesser extent table saw produce a crap ton of sawdust.
- If you build in a dust collection system - even just the skeleton for a system you'll get around to installing later, you'll be thankful you did.
That's all I can think of for now.
My input, for your consideration, Michy would be build your workshop a big as possible because you never have enough space. Think about, and plan, the internal layout benches, power outlets etc with as much thought and care as the overall structure before you commence your build. Incorporate as much natural light as possible. Finally, think about a back up power supply; wind, solar, generator etc.
Thanks for posting this. Bringing in the top brass like Foxy Roxy can't be cheap! I'm glad to hear you're building a shop, looking forward to seeing the process. If I could offer a suggestion - make part of the roof south facing in case you want to install solar some time in the future.
I built a 12' x 18' workshop back during COVID lockdown...I have a workbench the entire length on one wall with my axial glide mitre saw in the middle and I also have a band saw, table saw router table and dust extraction....I wish it could be bigger but it is perfectly big enough for what I need! Good Luck!
My advice would be: 1) build it as large as you can. - you will always wish you had more room when its full of stuff. 2) insulate it as well as you can afford. - makes heating and working it in easier.
I work in a small basement shop. I have found that wall space is at a premium for hanging storage, balanced by the need for lots of natural light. Walls should be wood so you can hang anything anywhere. Another way to maximize space usage is to either use rafter ties as loft area or actually build a loft for dry lumber, jigs and other items only used occasionally. Once the building is enclosed, the first projectshould be a solid workbench with multiple ways to hold your work (leg vise, bench hooks, plane stops, holdfasts, etc are inexpensive options). You can put drawers in the base for protected hand tool storage. All other projects will be easier if you have a good bench
No matter what size shop you have, be sure you have enough electricity run to it. Also you can't have enough plug in your shop. As a fellow woodworker, never thought I would grow out of a shop. It happens when you upgrade tools and add on to you collection. Build your shop with the ability to expand it. Good luck and God bless!
You will definitely want at least a 16 foot by whatever, maybe 16x12. The long wall will be perfect for a miter saw so you can cut long boards, also if you get a planer it'll give you more feeding room. The other thing is it gives you room for ripping 8 foot sheets of plywood on a table saw. Then there's the benefit of more room to paint things cabinets, cabinet doors, windows,etc
Hello Michelle, Steve new subscriber really enjoying your channel, Happy Birthday Steve! I recently retired and have gotten into wood working way more than I ever thought I would, such a relaxing and rewarding hobby. This will be a little bit winded but hopefully some advice you can use? I watched a few of the younger neighbors the past few years and they built shop/garages and the biggest complaint was the height the next complaint was the size and the last complaint was they all wished they had planned better for storage be it shelves, cabinets and so-on. When I built the new garage/shop a few years ago I went with 2 x 6 walls, only because I got a super deal on the lumber an odd size 9.5’ ceiling and it’s 26 x 26 I also went with a storage truss system and it has a drop down foldable ladder, all the Christmas and seasonal decorations are stored up there. As you set up the larger tools? Make everything mobile you won’t regret that lastly lots of plugs and LED lighting. Looking forward to the build. Wayne
New shop!! WOW!! YAY!! No more table saws on the ground!! Seriously though...save the cedars!! Power is a must! I'd also consider water if it's at all possible. My biggest regret when I built my shop was no water. Also I'd go no less than 16x20. Just the way that shops end up laying out, you'll want the extra length for ripping large 4x8 panels. My shop is 20x24 and if I had it to do over, I'd go 20(prefer 24) x 30. Will be interesting to watch how you design this and address all the issues. You are for sure an all out dedicated woodworker and we are always unique and our shops always express our love for the craft and for the wood itself and what it brings to our soul. Enjoy this process, it never ends and brings out the best in us and I know it will for you too!
You can never have enough space in a shop. It's better to have the space and not need it versus needing the space and not having it. I would recommend a 16' x 20' as a minimum, as low to the ground as you can get it, shallow ramp to entry (No stairs.), double door entry at least 6' wide and a dedicated corner (curtained off) for painting and staining. Can't wait to see what you decide to do.
Shop size and arrangement is a quandary that confronts every diy person. In 1975 when I enclosed my single car port 20 x 12 was huge for the few tools that I owned . I bought a ten inch table saw a ten inch radial arm saw a12 inch band saw various sanders all from Sears and they were top of the line tools . Shop furniture soon followed cabinets ,shelves and a 4 x 8 assembly table which took a 32square foot chunk of my 240 square foot shop along with the approximant 32 square foot the saws needed . Fast forward 45 years built a 16 x 32 work space that now houses a Ridgid 1243 table saw a DeWalt 12 inch dual bevel miter saw an 8 inch Jet joiner a 13 inch Dewalt 735 planer a Rikon 10-326 bandsaw a 16/32 SM drum sander an Evolution cool cut metal chop saw and a self built 10 x 5 slab flattener capable of surfacing 4 x8 by 8 inch slabs . Guess what I don`t have any floor space. The point of all this rambling whatever you build you will soon outgrow it. Really anticipating the start of construction don`t worry about outgrowing it just provide for expansion. One thing I am positive of you will handle it.
Hey Michy
it's Chris from Bavaria. I follow you since the beginning ... I love your umpretentous approach. I'm buliding myself a wooden workshop in the moment (6m x 3m), so I understand your winter challenges. I'd add something special - as you usually like that. ❤ I added e. g. a bell tower and a covered front for a huge Hollywood Swing to relax meanwhile. You could add a dog gallery 🤗 to watch and sleep while you are working. And of Course a fireplace or oven. 🍀
If it's going to be a highly used shop, 16 × 24 minimum. Table saw, drillpress, bandsaw, compresser, chopsaw and bench, router and table, dust collector, woodstove, and everything thing else, like 20 power tools.
Ten foot ceiling helps to install windows all along. No need for inside lighting during the day! Was a key feature in my shop!
If you want to go coocoo, do a barn roof on top and add a 16 × 16 2nd floor at the front, leaving the back 8 feet open. Great for storage or a "party room"! Doesn't take much more work to achieve, being you have to build a roof anyway. See if you can find an old set of kitchen cupboards to install on walls to hide all kinds of stuff. No need to build shelves.
I built mine 40 year's ago and it was darn near perfect! Also had a built out indoor - outdoor bar and a bathroom underneath the stairs to the second floor. 5 foot overhang on one side for the bar and barbecue. 5 foot back shed with sliding door for the lawn mower too. Still have the drawings from back then. Took me six months by myself. Just this old farts 2 cents, good luck with however ya go! Cheers from Cape Breton!
Workshop size is mostly about layout and space utilization. Smaller means more effort to get and stay organized; smaller also means less storage for those things that you find yourself heading to town for…a two hour trip for a $5 item is just not fun.
For a back woods shop, I would definitely shoot for wood-fire heating; in-floor radiant heat is the best way to reduce foot/leg strain on those cold days. Throw some foam insulation under a slab with inset piping and hook it up to a wood-fired boiler and small circulation pump. Luxury? Absolutely. The kind that extends the use of your workshop year-around.
Love the idea of the workshop. In gaging the size, imagine the area required for the bench tools. All your hand tools will need to be stored. You'll then have your bench where construction happens. 16x16 is the bare minimum you should consider. Put the shop closer to power access so that a 220 V line can be run to the shop -- incased in 3 inch conduit. You also want heat into the workshop for those winter projects. Looking forward to it.
My only comment is to make the workshop as big as you can. 16' x 20' would be the smallest I would build, and make sure there is room for add-on rooms as you grow and the original shop space fills up. Which it will very quickly! Also, plan your shop layout carefully and be prepared to move stuff around to get the best layout. BIG windows on the south side to capture as much daylight (directly over your workbench) as possible.
Good luck, and any chance of having dinner with Foxy Roxy?
Two trains of thought on the matter. As a hobbiest, I would say that bigger is better depending on how many tools (table saw, band saw etc, etc and size of the work bench). What exactly will you be doing should determine what tools you need. The second is to remember that if you work in the winter, you will need to heat the shop. 100 square foot shot to heat is less expensive than 400 square feet. But if money is no factor, then, bigger is better.
When considering building a shop I've always used the rule of thumb of having enough room, that by standing in the middle of the space and pretending to hold a sheet of plywood at the very end and spinning around in a circle horizontally and vertically, will give you enough room for your work area, then add a 32" allowance on all sides for an imaginary wrap around, perimeter bench, you would end up with a comfortable work space (12' ceilings are just right to allow turning a sheet of plywood end for end) always nice to have more space than the regret of not having enough, 24'x24' is a comfortable size, sounds big, but when you consider, table saw placement, bench for miter saw, wood storage etc. space gets small fast!, Just a suggestion, of course the bigger the shop the bigger the cost!
Happy Birthday, Steve
You got to Love Foxy Roxy.! The shop bigger the better, and you never have anough power plugs. Wow shop and traveling the 7 seas! What next? Foxy Roxy doing the weather???
Enjoy the weekly updates.
One shop dimension imho should be 18+ feet. A saw can be in the middle of that 18' side with room to rip 8 foot boards and Plywood.
Also imho stay close to an electric supply, with amps to run saw, vacuum, lights, fan, heat, tunes, tv, and cameras.
Stay safe.
MIchelle ,is a Foxy Roxy Lady. Happy Birthday Steve. On your workshop, I would select 16 X 16. Your cutting area will swallow up the area. Then if you have a table saw and you need to cut plywood or anything large sheeting, you need to have a couple add on tables to increase the table saw. There will be lots of time that Steve is not available. You want to be able to be safe and handle a large item on your own. The two add on tables can have small casters to be able to roll away if needed. And plenty of lighting or a big window nearby. Big Santa Barbara Hugs. 🤗🤗😘😘
Find a room in your house about 12x12 and start laying out templates for workbenches and stationery tools. See how it feels moving around in that size. I would go 16x16, just because you will never have enough room. Also, electrical outlets EVERYWHERE! Good luck and don't forget windows so you can look at the scenery.
I would build it 20'x20'. You will need some space for an assembly area. I have a 20'x20' shop. Once you start using it, it doesn't feel like it's too big. Maybe still not big enough. Just my thoughts. I'm looking forward to watching your build.
Build as big as possible. You can never build too big. You will not regret it!!
My last shop was 16 x 32. If plan on using a tablesaw, you need a minimum of 8 feet at the front and back of the saw to just cut plywood It’s best to use a piece of graph paper and plan out what machines you are going to use or have the machines on casters.Secondly don’t forget power requirements my shop had a 60 amp sub panel which was just adequate enough to run a planer and a dust collector at the same time. Lastly build in high so it won’t get flooded Sounds like a fun project 😊
Consider that the tool that needs the most space is a tablesaw. You need double the length of the material being cut. Infeed and outfeed. So possibly set it up so your outfield goes out the main door. Also, make the main door large enough to get your projects out and materials in. Organizing tools and materials and a workspace is the biggest challenge. You want your tools accessible, your materials easy to get in and out. While still having a spot to build. If you can either do a post and beem that allows doors to be moved if your needs change or make doors on all sides but that makes storage difficult. Dust collection is a real safety issue. Run some tunes that can carry dust away from tools. Dust is not your friend.
Once again, Michelle, another wonderful video. Thank you. You never cease to amaze me of your talent. I don’t think there’s anything you couldn’t do. If you set your mind to it. Keep up the good work have a good week and a beautiful day. On your workshop, it’s been my experience always build bigger than what you think you may need.
With a workshop Michy, think about the machines you might want in the future and make it big enough. You will inevitably want more space than you have got. I would go for a heavy duty concrete slab floor to take the weight of larger machines. Consider the power you might need and think about having 3 phase rather than single. Design a loft space for storing materials that have been dried. Go for double doors.
Make it 60x80 and park your heavy equipment, lumber out of the weather. Plus have room for work shop. The closer to your living area you are, the easier it is to get to work. More Foxy Roxy!
I'm excited for you to build a shop. Here is my experience in building my shop. Build your shop as big as you can afford. My shop is 24'x36' with a 12'x36' covered wood storage area. When I first built it and started moving my tools in I though what am I going to with all this space. Now 12 years down the road I'm glad I have space to build large projects (kitchen cabinets, wardrobes, dressers...). I do wish I had put in quad electrical outlets where I put in duals. I wished I had planned space for a finishing room. Once you start applying finish you're not working on other projects and kicking up dust. Plan your dust collection early. Plan your heating early. Plan for at least a utility sink. Plan on putting in a wide door or a double door for ease of moving materials and finished projects in and out of the shop. Put your compressor outside under cover. I would suggest a post and truss building. My post and truss went up quick and I finished the inside in just a few months. Looking forward to your shop build.
Hi Michy,
All I can say is “Build as big as you can”. No matter how big you build it, you will always need more space.
Happy Birthday to Steve (lucky Man),
Stay safe (and keep it Warm)
Best wishes
Pops
UK
There’s something familiar with that Foxy Roxy reporter. I just can’t figure out who she reminds me of.
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Roxy the hat definitely works. When you build your shop whether 12 by 12 or 16 by 16 Make sure you give yourself enough ceiling room. Nothing worse than having to go outside to turn a board around
You can never have too much power. I would recommend at least two, 220 V outlets, with a breaker large enough to handle them both at the junction box.
I’m suburban, so I use electricity for heat, but you might consider enough space so that your woodstove would be a great source
And if it all possible, treat yourself to a solid cement floor.
Michelle/Ms. Roxy: I have experience in FCP and Avid and Premiere (and others). I would be happy to help however I can. I am a few hours away from you, probably about 8 from Kelowna, but only a few seconds by electronic means.
As far as shop size, that depends on how much you *want* inside the shop and how much you *need* in the shop. Probably most materials do _not_ need to be in the shop. An auxiliary storage area near it can hold most materials and keep them dry. Infrequently used items like paints are best kept out of the way most of the time.
My best advice is on electric. Obviously code dictates it but put the outlets above any bench height. And use multiple curcuits on a wall. If you install the outlets left to right down a wall, the first outlet is on circuit A, second outlet is on circuit B, third is on A, fourth is on B, etc. Why? That's way when you plug two different tools in they will not overload a single curcuit.
TIMBER!🌲 Hi Roxy, missed you! Have the biggest doors possible. Strategicly placed nitrogen filled windows with a good thermal rating (knowing you, you will spend a lot of time working there) will help with lighting and heat. No one has a better idea what you need than you. Also, a high well sloped roof with a sturdy cross beam is a great accessory when lifting heavy objects. I know it will turn out excellently unique! 👍
Doing projects with the room to do them is priceless!! Good luck building the workshop!
What I would build and what you want are two different things, so in keeping with your homestead, you probably want to have a cozy small shop, that doesn't take up too much of a footprint. Like everyone else says, larger is better, but why not build twice or three time the size at three times the price and four times the build time. BC weather is pretty inclement, unlike say Alaska or Quebec. Your main problems are 1 you need length to work on large timber( just comfortably cutting a 4x8 sheet of plywood on a table saw requires 18 feet of shop),, 2 you need to be able to move said timber which isn't easy for a tiny woman working alone, and 3 you are building on that unstable water saturated acidic soil from years of tree spoilage. Go with your original size. Try and give yourself some decent ceiling height . Install a longitudinal beam ( doesn't have to be steel, could by a decent girth squared wood timber or laminate) and install pulley blocks for handling larger materials. Have garage or barn or french doors on two adjacent walls for working on over length materials. Use a woodstove to heat it, and also to dispose of wood debris. Some people use a boiler to recoup electrical expenses from the detritus. Use your skidsteer to remove as much of the subsoil, put in some drains and pour yourself a slab. Oh and have fun!
Have lots of thoughts as you ponder a workshop. Suggest laying out a floor plan for power tools that stand on the floor; and then provide storage for power tools and hand tools that don't stand on the floor, a space for fasteners and glue and such. Also space for projects under construction. All of the above will likely increase in scope going forward, maybe plan on that a bit. Don't forget trash accumulation and capture. This will be much fun to plan and anticipate new and improved place to execute the machinations of your active mind and imagination. Have fun with it.
My best advice? Go as big as you can! A shop is never big enough. Also, stick to 16" stud spacing. While 24" centers sound appealing for a workshop, materials like insulation ect. Are priced much better because of the higher production volumes produced for home construction. I learned that the hard way.
Whatever size you make the workshop, make the ceiling higher than you think you need. I converted an old open-sided implement shed to my workshop, and the height is barely 2.3m to the bottom of the rafters. I'm forever in danger of hitting my lights when I handle long sticks of timber or ply sheets.
“Working on Steve about those cedar trees” should be a slam dunk. A visit from Foxy Roxy ought to do the trick!?🤔✌🏻❤️🇺🇸🙏🏻🇨🇦
Having downsize from the big house and full basement shop to a condo with a garage, I would suggest 12'x20'. Gives me ample size for: workbench, mechanics tool chest, storage shelving, drill press, table saw, industrial sewing machine (I do boat upholstery), small air compressor, knockdown work/layout table, shop vac (with a dust collector). The layout table is supported by sawhorse that I can take down. Table saw is against the walll, but rolls out for long cuts. Also have the chop say, scroll saw, small router table, bench grinder and a host of other power hand tools. The size is adequate to larger project, and forces you to keep it neat and organized. I'm sure you will insulate the walls & roof, but also do the floor. I used a roll out vinyl floor on the concrete and its the best, warm on the feet & easy to clean. For heat, I have a 3000 watt electric heater with and internal fan mounted on the ceiling. Not a fan of the electric, but did not want an open flame in the shop with saw dust and chemical (paint thinner, etc.) Winter time I keep the temp at 50* F, so all my tools are warm, otherwise, when I use the shop it take forever to bring the air temp up, and everything I touch is like ice. Good luck, love your enthusiasim & determination.
A workshop is a great idea for your talent. I would suggest a minimum of 20x20. You'll want a good size workbench with all the various vices, a miter saw with bench, a jointer, a planer, a sander shaper, a router table, a drill press, and a table saw. You'll need a good dust collection system for connecting all of your machinery. I suggest looking at Harvey woodworking equipment, it is top quality. I look forward to seeing you building the shop! Cheers from NC.
I'd suggest building as large of a workshop as you can. Projects tend to grow in size in direct proportion to space available. Also, with a dedicated workshop, your collection of tools and equipment will grow. I made do working in half of a 2 car garage for years but now I'm in the process of graduating to a 30' x 40' dedicated shop.
Whatever size you think- go bigger! You'll find so many things that should go in the shop. Leave room for future tools, if anything. I've been an automotive and heavy diesel tech my entire career. Whenever I look at a job, I double whatever my thoughts are for how long it should take. I'm usually on point. You can see the parallel. Good luck.
We all know you green screened Foxy Roxy, wow! Work shop: Figure out what kind of equipment you want to work with and give them proper space. What kind of projects, will you start making, river dining tables or just smaller projects. Thank you again, for another superb vid!
A work shop is usually always built to small , 🙃 consider an upgrade and a second story for the finishing of your creations , like a painting 🖼 and detailing area for the completed work at hand ????
I suggest a 16 x 20 barn style roof to utilize a loft for much needed storage to stack and sticker trim boards to dry and prevent warping. The extra 4 feet length wise is to use for a small wood burner to heat with and a possible double basin splash sink.
Happy Birthday Steve and RIP Lenny's nuts lol. Looking forward to the shop build. Nice seeing you again Roxy
Hi. My shop is 22x 22 in my 2 car garage and I wish I had more room. I'd make it as big as you can. Good luck. I'm looking forward to the build.
Michelle think about 12'x20' for the new shop. If you need to put a 4'x8' sheet through a table saw you need 8' on either side of the blade. 16' makes that pretty hard. Good luck, sounds like like a great project I've never regretted building more shop space.
Hi! Really enjoy your Music! Workshop: I just built a "small" workshop 18 x 20. In line with the table saw and planer I have doors at either end so I can handle a board longer than 8'.
If you need to go small I'd suggest 12' or 16' by 24' so the planer, chopsaw & table saw can handle a board long as 10'. Items that not to be in the weather very quickly claim space. Love how you create from vision instead of blueprint.
Sounds exciting. I know I would probably put the shed down by the sawmill to keep from having to move the wood back-and-forth when constructing or doing project so later on. And I’d probably just put a good size gas generator down there. But that’s also because I have a bad back. Whatever you decide, I’m excited to watch what you do as you give me inspiration to do stuff here. Happy birthday Steve.
My suggestions echo many already made, but the first time you say, "Gee, I wish I ...." it will cost you hundreds of Person-hours!!
Suggestions -- Make one dimension is 24 ft. with a 10 ft. OR Open beam ceiling and use the height for planned vertical storage. == spend more time than you think necessary planning anticipated work-flow for the planned location of major tools and place power to avoid "Trip Hazards" -- ALL 120V receptacles should be 20 Amp -- as a one person shop the number of circuits can be reduced (you can only be at one place at a time and 20A will allow for an occasional visitor) -- Plan for Vent fans, lighting, and dust removal NOW, even in your bucolic. forest setting -- This is your shop, so make it the way you wish - - - congrats!!!
Portable dust collector is what I enjoy in my workshop…and everything on wheels
I hope that flap hat matched Roxies hills. I love your video's. The shop needs to be bigger. And you should get me to come help you. I'm a 60 yr old wood worker. Finishing up our foreclosure renovation. To fit a table saw, chop saw, work bench, router table, band saw, planner, lathe and room to sand and stain and finish. Go bigger. You are living my dream. I wish I had a saw mill. I love the cliff cabin. Build on girl friend!!
Michy, if at all possible TRY to make your workshop as big as you can. 16 x 16 is really small after you get you tools in there...they take up a lot of floor space. You won't have enough space to move around and you'll feel cramped. You will most likely regret not making it bigger. I would suggest at least 24 x 24 and even bigger if you can make it happen. Even at 24 x 24 you might be asking yourself "Why didn't I make it bigger? In my experience, bigger is better. I LOVE watching your videos. You are an exceptional lady. Keep up the good work!😊
Hi Michelle! I would suggest a minimum of 16x20. Also, install lockable wheels on your major power tools. (Table saw, Band saw, Drill press, Jointer-planer and work bench.) Using the extra 64 sqft as a parking area. That'll give you the full 16x16 as an open work space. Think of installing french cleats on the walls for storage of various and sundry stuff. On his YT chanel WWMM, Steve Ramsey has tons of shop layout suggestions. His shop is a 16x16 garage. Good luck on this project! Shout out to Steve and the pups...from the woods of Maine
Michelle:
I am very exited for you, regarding your up and comming shop build! I dont know how many times I watched you struggle with no place to do your projects... I would yell at the TV, (like you could hear me 😔) " Just build a workspace already!" 😲🙁
I built my shop here in Ontario 23 years ago, for tinkering with cars & motorcycles. Poll barn style, 25' x 32' and I wish I had more room. It is amazing how fast your space fills up, just putting equipment and work benches in place.
Figure out what will work for you... then double it! You will not regret it. Make it tall enough so that you can get the Bobcat in for bringing in your larger materials, and for bringing out large projects. {None of us get stronger as we get older}😃🤣
Good luck with your build, looking forward to seeing it all come together. Work safe young lady🛠
Sending huggs from Stoney Creek, Ontario ♥️
Regards: Douglas
P.S. I love your dogs... I wish I could have that many! I have 1 50lb dog 🐶 and a 20lb rabbit 🐰
Wow! your hair is long!... Your doing a great job on video's!... Happy B Day!... Nice someone pay for your tire!.. Congrats your own shop!... make shop big 20X 24!!!...have lots of over hang to put tools and wood outside...
Lenny and Clyde = Oochie and Ouie.... 🤣🤣🤣 Happy Birthday Steve!!!!
Electrical service and layout has always been important in building a new shop. Can never have enough 110 circuits and always put in one more 220 line than what you think you might need. I prefer double doors to an overhead roll-up door because it doubles as an walking entryway and raw material/finished project pathway.
I had a 12x16 shop and it was just barely big enough. Once you get a bench, your tools, and your materials in it it is difficult to move around. And I am also just a hobbyist, diy kind of guy. I upgraded to a 16x20 shop and what a difference! So I would say if you're building a new shop and your have the room, do at least a 16x20. It won't be much more difficult than 16x16 and you'll be happy to have the room.
Build your shop as large as you possibly can! When you add tools space fills up real fast!
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Dave is a real gentleman ❣❣❣ This was a nice idea from him. You give us such a lot of ideas and pleasure, watching your videos. 👍😁Greetings from 🇩🇪 I admire all your work !! 🙋♀️
I have had RUclipsrs suggest doing a floor plan of tools (floor standing) that you're planning to use as well as storage for offcuts or lumber for projects, etc. Also think about the longest boards that you want to handle on a table saw or planner, etc.
My first suggestion is to measure all the tools you want to put it or will add thru the years. How much space between them do you wish, do you need to move them closer to each other for certain projects or or or. Tool boxes are how large. Make a sheet sketch of what the flow would be for your projects. What do you wish to get in the future to add to your shop. Are you a minamalist or a a keeper of things "just in case"........the main thing is truly be realistic with yourself. What size wood do you really work with normally. Can you move it around inside a building without knocking or having to move other things?
We have a radial saw, a drill press, a lathe, scroll saw, tool boxes and storage bins in our building with a freezer for our storage food etc.built storage racks with 2x2 with kraigs tool....open for bins of electrical, plumbing, yard items yard tools and riding lawn mower. Our building is 24x32 and actualy perfect for long sizes of lumber and this or that. We live in the country on acreage we've had for 49 years. It is cheaper to add it now that to rebuild and if you keep the size realistic you shouldn't need to build again in the future. We have led lights all alone each side hang down and so they are moveable with chain to where ever we need them. Our rafters are still open and up there we store some odd sizes of wood for future use or so on. electrical plugs on wall every 6--8 feet along all the walls as there are never enough plug ins it seems, as I am sure you know. LOL We were twenty seven when weDouglas
Seeing your tenacity and determination in your projects, I would advise one thing; plan to be able to easily augment the amount of space you'll need in the future, like plan to have one side, front or back easily opened up for new space, that means saving one wall from too much rework needed in case...
Whatever size you decide on, make sure you have enough door to get stuff in and out!! Minimum of double doors; 2×32" doors or a 72x84 slider. If it's a rectangle shop, put the door in the middle of the short wall.
Agree with others… no shop is ever big enough. Go way bigger than you are thinking. And then a little bigger still. Promise you will not regret it. Same applies to outlets. Figure out how many you think you need and double it. It allows you to keep stationary items plugged in, and not suffer a spiderweb of extension cords. At least a couple separate circuits aren’t a bad idea either. Also, a BIG door for big stuff, and a normal Michy-size door for when you need to just go in and out without big stuff.