Great again Sam. What EllisClark can do for the money is a bargain from German perspective lol. All those specs..., easily double that price of 295 over here. Why metal? Because nothing can beat it. Plastic looks plastic, no matter how well disguised. Paints and finishes have come a long way and they've managed to camouflage the plastic but in the end, we can always pick out the metal locos. Metal looks and feels substantial like a real loco instead of a toy. This includes metal gears as well. They don't crack and are made for a life time. Metal high quality expensive locos are a life time investment, that's the way we look at it, and that's why we are hooked to Märklin. Why would anyone buy Hornby Dublo? Same reason. Not everyone is on a stingy budget Sam. For low budget, there are plenty options. For the UK, Hornby Railroad for example. For us..., metal as much as possible. At a price tag of course, but we save up for each purchase. We're not hoarders, lol. Each their own of course. Cheerio.
haha true - it's just a fortune from a British perspective, and that's the problem! I like metal too - but these days they can achieve a perfect finish in plastic, so the only benefit is weight... which isn't necessary in a tender! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains We can always pick out metal Sam..., always. They come very, very close with finishes on plastic though, but perfect? No not really. But again, each their own.
I understand what you mean, also those German engines are bullet proof models. I swear they, especially trix/Marklin, are planted on the track. They are my best runners and contain the very best mechanism compared to British models form Hornby and Bachmann. Electronics and extensive lighting functions are also where the money is besides build materials
@@Marco-xz9sc Exactly this. We are now searching for an EMD F7 Santa Fe used. The minimum set is a motorised A unit which can be expanded with a dummy with a cab and a B (middle) unit. All zinc bodies, metal chassis, solid motor block and metal gears. VERY heavy on the track but indeed planted on it and rock solid running. This 1 heavy motor in the A unit can still easily pull all the weight of a 3-part-unit pulling metal coaches, take an incline, and the running characteristics still remain steadfast excellent.
I love metal too, I'm a fan of Sabaton... Uh, not this category ? The Ellis Clark WD 2-10-0 does not surprise me. If you want the same kind in Germany, you have the Roco BR 44 around this pricetag (also a 2-10-0 of course). Ellis Clark seems ready to match the quality of German models, they have an option in my wallet by now.
Hi Sam! Firstly can I just say a huge thank you from Evie and myself for your very kind shout-out to our little Wibbly Wobbly Wagon challenge. We can't thank you enough for your help and support. Brilliant Model Railway News video as always Sam, I always look forward to these. Personal highlights for me, got to be the Accurascale Pannier tank engines and the Ellis Clark WD Loco. I cant afford either one of them but it's nice to dream😂 All the very best Sam and thank you again! Martin
Ahh you’re very welcome hope it’s going well! So sorry that I’ve not had time to build anything yet, it’s just been incredibly busy recently. I’ll see if I can do one in the new year though, as you say there’s no deadline! Have a good one chaps, Sam :)
Hi Sam, Happy Christmas. Love the idea of the 2-10-0 WD however the £300 is way outside my price point. Re Dapol wagons I do wish they would provide a retrofit option for their previous stuff
I went and did it! I reserved an Ellis Clark Austerity 2-10-0. I'll get a slight break on the pri e as I won't have to pay VAT. But Canadian import fees and our HST will eat into most of those savings. Now I just have to $10 away per week for the next year.
I’ve started to build my GCR themed layout and I can’t wait! But it’s also perfect timing as I love pannier tanks so I’m definitely gonna get one. Great video too.
I would just like to give my input on Ellis Clark's decision to include a brass tender. As a British kit modeller, a lot of the kits I build are out of brass, and if you look at professionally-built brass models, then it is very evident how high quality it looks. The finish, the weight, and the feel of it in your hands are unbeatable. Brass is also a lot more durable than plastic, so using it in on a tender can provide a finer layer while also making it not prone to breaking. For example, a lot of manufacturers nowadays have thick wingplates on the smokebox because the plastic could easily break if it was too thin. Utilising brass resolves this to a great extent by keeping it thin and accurate. I assume that's why they chose to do that on the tender. However, I would also like to note that using brass is likely not the feature that would drive the price up very much since brass itself is not expensive. The WD's tenders are flat, meaning the factory workers won't have to curve around the tender too much (meaning less of an increase in price). I doubt it would be much higher than using plastic, even though it is metal. Their high prices are likely due to the enormous amounts fine bits and pieces on the model. Overall, I think the price is reasonable for what they're offering, but the price itself remains very steep. Cheers, Julien.
Great news update as always! I’m sad to have missed you at Warley. I hope you had a great time! Have a great Christmas mate and thanks for another great year of amazing content
I love your videos. I've really enjoyed them. Your face when you announce the price is a picture and I like the fact that you understand the humour in the hobby. More please!
3:19 Not quite all, Rails of Sheffield/Locomotion Models are doing an exclusive version in LNER Grey as it appeared in the 1925 Centenary Cavalcade for the Stockton & Darlington Railway.
There is definitely a price for a premium model. The ready to run high end models look better than scratchbuilt masterpieces from the 70's. There is no denying the absolute manufacturing beauty out there right now. It's just not cheap. I think there is plenty of room in the market for a premium, "normal" and budget model - some models are so niche its just not worth making them in budget or "normal" form.
Another set of fun announcements, so much to tempt me. Merry Christmas to you and Chloe and hope you have a great time over Christmas and a Happy New Year! Keep those videos coming ...
Firstly many thanks Sam for these features. I never miss one and look forward to them every month. I am nervous about the Garratt. I bought the LMS version from them and it came with loads of bits that had come off. Some I could not re fit. Also it never ran right. It was the first loco that I ever bought and returned with no replacement. So I will not go near this one.
Like how accarascale announced their Pannier's with "Holy Duck" as a nod to the Thomas character, that's clever and I'm looking forward to those as well as the LNER Garret.
I've currently got the Ellis Clark Austerity on pre-order as I ordered it the day it was announced. I have considered switching to the KR Models version, both because of the price difference, but also because KRM are now offering both 600 Gordon and 601 Kitchener in the LMR Blue. As yet however I haven't, partially because KRM want the money upfront, and money's a little tight at the moment (thanks mostly to Rapido's Titfield & GER Class C53 Train Pack Releases), but also because KRM haven't, as you say, given us much detail. Something feels a little off, I wonder if KRM were taken by surprise at EC announcement and weren't quite ready. For the moment I'm just going to leave my pre-order with EC, at least until more information (and hopefully some artwork from both companies) comes to light. Though I might not even get the EC version in the end, £240 - £295 is a lot of money for one locomotive.
A good variety of news here Sam, hopefully soon I will have my Bulleid Leader from KR models and another model that I have coming up hopefully is the 18100 Gas Turbine locomotive, a lot of good models have been announced recently, the U1 is quite interesting, as I have the LMS garratt and it’s a good model I may look at picking up the LNER one, the 323 from dapol is another very interesting announcement and I am thinking of looking into one of those as well, with this one it will most likely be the northern livery.
10:08 I must say 300 pounds is very expensive, and personally I could do without the brass tender 😅. I'm actually quite happy that another manufacturer will be making a cheaper version, which one I'll get will probably come down to the finish and richness of whatever colour they decide to put on them.
Good video Sam , some interesting stuff on the way , the WD is welcome but two firms at the same time hmmm, also these locos' very rarely strayed from Scotland so very limited if you do prototypical layouts.
Re the price of the Ellis Clark WD/BR 2-10-0 The price is not that bad, if it has a diecast body,etc. The DJH kit K39 costs £227.38. Then there is £83.95 for the mortor/gearbox and £135.44 for a set of wheels. You would then either have to build it and paint it. or pay someone else to do that for you.. A total cost of £446.77 before the cost of building and painting it etc
Yeah but that’s assuming the DJH kit is good value for money, and I don’t think it is. £83.95 is absurd for a set of wheels. Mass produced ready to run locos just don’t cost that much to make, not even close. While the features of the Ellis Clark loco do math the price, I’m just not sure that such an expensive loco is what the industry needs right now, but time will tell!
Great video. I like the news videos. I am curious though: You (almost) always mention that you think the models are too expensive. I think it would be great if you could elaborate (perhaps in a different video) what you think a model like the one from Ellis Clark should cost? I don't like the rising prices either, but detailed models cost money. Also, if the numbers are low, the price is higher. With regards to the Heljan model: I will put my money on it being bad. They never seem to disappoint in that regard... sadly.
I think the price is fair given the specs given… I just question whether the specs are entirely necessary. But if there’s demand for such a high spec and expensive model, it’ll sell, and that will be that!
@@SamsTrains I agree. Some of the continental models are going mental with specs, but they do sell. I am not a buyer, I can't afford them. I mostly go with the cheaper stuff and I'm happy about it.
I was literally thinking at work the other day, "Man i wish someone would make an LNER U1, and a WD Austerity 2-10-0, literally the same DAY Heljan announced the U1, and KR their Austerity the same week, couple that (pun intended) with that lovely Acurascale 57xx, well im going to have an extremely expensive christmas next year! Doubly so if Dapol sorts out their wagons, I'd love to fill out my roster of wagons. I will say between the Austerities, I'd be inclined to get the Ellis Clark one, they seem to be positioning themselves like the UK version of Broadway Limited Imports over here in the US, very high quality but with a price to match!
Hi Sam, great update as always! Please please will you review both Austerity 2-10-0s? I'm a huge fan of the WD locos, particularly interested in that 'khaki sand' livery. Keep up the good work mate
Re: Brass tenders" - as an aside, I have had to add extra weight to some tenders to avoid de-railing on curves due to the drag of long trains. But I doubt a bit of brass would help.
Hey Sam. I’m thinking of getting into the hobby but don’t have much space so will probably be making it a 4 foot by 8 foot layout. I was thinking of making it a 2 track layout with a siding area. Would I need any isolated rail joiners?
Happy Christmas and a super new year to you. Looking forward to more videos in ‘24. Is Oxford Rail independent? Thought they were owned by Hornby? Maybe Ellis C want a metal body tender as it’s easier to match the paint finish to a metal body loco? Cheers. Dave.
Sam can you help the cause , we don't all want steam, the new emu is great but we need a full suite of Southern England emu like class 405, 415, 455/6. Cheers
Knowing the designer of the Ellis clark model personally I know it'll blow your socks clean off. Whilst I wish kr well they are behind in terms of design & finesse. The designer ellis uses is a perfectionist & exceptionally good at what she does.
Accurascale and Rapido seem to know what modelers want in terms of engines and design quality. We got the basis of a lot of Thomas characters now and just great quality models in general
Fantastic vid sam, enjoyed this. The Dapol 323 has certainly caught my eye, being a modern image modeller in the West Mids! Which locos are your favourites of this year? Also, my video of the mystery box is live on my channel now (because I couldn't resist a bit of self-promo!)
I'm also very excited by the 323 which I've wanted a model of for ages. Just disappointed they aren't doing a version in the Northern Rail Blue and Purple scheme in this batch.
Hey Sam thanks for sharing all the news! I was wondering in future bulletins if you will be including N gauge news too? Or 0 gauge for that matter? Kind regards Terry Lewis.
Hi Sam, I have a 57xx on order - y first coreless loco and seems like a bargain compared with the 'big two'. I hoped Dapol would produce an Arkells breweries van for western region modellers, never mind.
Yeah I agree - the price seems reasonable for what they're offering! Ahh well I'm sure there'll be more vans on the way soon! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
All this looks great, but it would be nice if Hornby actually understood what Garter blue is - a light, bright blue. By the way, Sam, what is the width of the sleepers and the space between them in your track? I am making CAD for a new best puller on your layout, as well as a way for you to be able to test weight per wheel and axle. Thanks for all Sam!
@@SamsTrains look up garter blue + Bugatti connection, and read the great British locomotives magazine posts in the LNER . Info forum. Garter blue on all models is far off. It’s highly contested, but it is generally agreed upon that the current shade is too dark. I’ll send some photographic evidence with the cad.
Hi Sam. Sorry to put you on the spot: since you have now dipped your toe into O gauge, N gauge and TT:120 gauge, do you now need to extend your Model Railway News to include these additional gauges? I *do* realise that this could potentially double or triple the length of the videos, but can you really only concentrate on OO gauge?
It’s just a practicality thing - these news videos take hours to write and edit, and if I started covering other gauges, I’d just have to miss more products out to make it work. Most likely I’ll just cover major N and O announcements, while skipping product updates etc!
Ooo, a new garrat! That’s interesting. But I can understand you skipping it… will you be picking up the new dapol 323 Sam? Or is it a bit too much of an asking price? Also, I see the new Hornby tta wagons are coming into stock (according to their website), I look forward to seeing what you make of them, assuming you’re reviewing them, of course
Some of that Ellis Clark pre weathered rolling stock is lovely, however it’s very expensive. I might bite the bullet and try out one of their wagons though.
In recent times I think Dapol is turning into my favorite manufacturer. Since they are really doing good and affordable products whilst keeping production in Britain. Nonetheless, I think all manufacturers are increasing in quality!
@@AndrewKodachrome-qo9qs as far as i know, they're making an effort to make as much as possible in the UK. They recently made a move to start making their own wheels using a special machine and the kitmaster kits and others are also made in wales. However, I think that the main rtr models are all made in china
Nahh sadly they're not planning a Duck - someone gave the faces to Accurascale and they bunged them in the cabinet... at least that's what they told me.... Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Sam probably covered it in his news about the middle of last year when they announced it. They seem to have taken a leaf out of Hornby’s book - announce and then not produce for ages.
Cant wait to get the accurascale pannier 5741 since thats the 'real' Duck. Also seems like we get more and more news every month! Hopefully that means the hobby as a whole is doing well with all these companies announcing so many new stuff!
Wow, that EllisClark WD loco looks nice. At that price, it’s around what I would expect to pay for an Athearn or Kato Big Boy. So, if they (EllisClark) made an excellent mechanism, then it should be worth the price. But, I’ll let Sam review it first. This way, we can tell if this is worthy of someone’s layout… or if it’s overpriced junk, fit only for the evil Scrap Man!! 😭 Let’s all tip our hats to Sam. Spending money on these things to review, so we don’t have to. Way to take one for the team there, Sam! 😅❤
Yeah that’s right, and as much as their previous models have been great, this is their first OO loco, so they don’t have a proven track record. It’s a bit odd that they’ve taken on such a massive project as their first loco… think I would have started with a small tank engine if I was doing my first rtr loco… OO is a very different kettle of fish to O after all!
There was a sample at Warley, but I’ve not seen any updates! Thing about KR is that YOU pay for the models to be produced… so they announce early, charge you a deposit, and use that to pay production costs…. So it takes a loooong while!
Hi, im confused with the WD 2-10-0 announcements as i will be purchasing one but i have no idea which i should go for when in reality the loco will stay in its box in a cupboard. This may be odd but my Dad, while doing his National Service was stationed on the LMR and as an engine driver, drove Gordon on many occasion, he was asked by the SVR in the 1970s if he would drive for them but he refused as was "too busy" we did however get him on the footplate in the engine shed and replicated a photo of him in the cab of Gordon taken in the 1950s before he passed away. Any advise on which company youd go for appreciated. I know at the moment its speculative but i have no idea
Hi Sam, informative video as usual. When you held up the box van from another manufacturer, it's weird you didn't name who it was, is there a reason for that?
Another informative video. I know some people .I,e all thd bells and whistles on a model trains and I respect that, but I often feel we are being suckered by things that are frankly impractical. The humble spring buffer is nice but really services no purpose in model form. I model 0 gauge and even shunting wagons with three link couplings the buffers are to highly sprung and with tight curves you get buffer lock. These models are no longer toys like back in the dim dark early 60s. I bought my wife a Hornby coronation, a beautiful model, but almost scared to touch it as the detail parts are so fragile. I had to buy the Titfield Thunderbolt as I'm a sentimental old fool and Rapido warn you not to pick up the loco by holding the coupling rods as they are almost to scale. Whilst I like all the details it's the practical things that matter like durability, a quality drive train , a heavy engine an,d pick-ups on as many wheels as possible. Plastic gears is a pet hate of mine.
11:56 TBH, this is KR Models, they are giving us one of the most useless models for OO (or any model gauge) - Big Bertha. She was designed to push and that's it. The model is only useful for those modelling Bromsgrove and/or the Lickey Incline anywhere between 1919 & 1955. The model costs £220 DCC Ready which is a alright price but looking at their Fell & GT3, I don't have high hopes
haha yeah I know - though they also gave us the GT3, which is utterly niche for similar reasons, but still plenty bought it! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I expect that the WD 2-10-0 is an attempt to mimic continental manufacturers in both features and prices. I'm used by now to seeing prices upwards of €500,= for just a loco from manufacturers like Märklin. And when I say seeing such prices, I specifically mean seeing and not paying.
It does seem to be - interesting idea, but not one that I expect will appeal to the masses... but that's true, European locos cost a fortune! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hi how are you I just had some sad news the paignton model shop is closed I do not know but is looking like it be next year. So if I are coming Down again come so you Devon thank Robert ps love the video
Yeah unfortunately that's the way things are these days - you won't find many new loco releases cheaper than this unfortunately! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hey Greg! I think it's a hard sale in light of Hornby's new Hm7000... Bachmann's new system has an RRP of £400, and with the bluetooth decoders, you don't need a controller at all! If they'd announced it a year earlier, I would have been very interested! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Thanks for the reply Sam. Yes I would totally agree. I’m actually surprised they’ve gone this route. HM7k clearly has its issues but the basic premise seems to be the way forward. Direct control to the chip over the air, with the rails only needed for basic power supply. The fact that it’s cheap and easily update-able is a bonus too.
I know there’d be licensing issues, but it would be really nice to get the Accurascale Pannier in Railway Children colours. The Bachmann version is long overdue an upgrade.
Thanks for bringing together the news! Pardon the rant though on Oxford Rail - don't think you've done a review of their Mk3 coaches but they've been terrible and constantly derail. I know Bachmann stuff is twice the price but it has the weight and quality of construction to run reliably which I personally prefer! Excited for those 323s.
With manufacturers struggling to try and outdo each other by stuffing their models full of junk you don't need you have to ask yourself this. How much of the time is a steam loco running with its firebox door open, compared to how much of the time do steam locos run without any crew in them........🤔
Great again Sam. What EllisClark can do for the money is a bargain from German perspective lol. All those specs..., easily double that price of 295 over here. Why metal? Because nothing can beat it. Plastic looks plastic, no matter how well disguised. Paints and finishes have come a long way and they've managed to camouflage the plastic but in the end, we can always pick out the metal locos. Metal looks and feels substantial like a real loco instead of a toy. This includes metal gears as well. They don't crack and are made for a life time. Metal high quality expensive locos are a life time investment, that's the way we look at it, and that's why we are hooked to Märklin. Why would anyone buy Hornby Dublo? Same reason. Not everyone is on a stingy budget Sam. For low budget, there are plenty options. For the UK, Hornby Railroad for example. For us..., metal as much as possible. At a price tag of course, but we save up for each purchase. We're not hoarders, lol. Each their own of course. Cheerio.
haha true - it's just a fortune from a British perspective, and that's the problem! I like metal too - but these days they can achieve a perfect finish in plastic, so the only benefit is weight... which isn't necessary in a tender!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains We can always pick out metal Sam..., always. They come very, very close with finishes on plastic though, but perfect? No not really. But again, each their own.
I understand what you mean, also those German engines are bullet proof models. I swear they, especially trix/Marklin, are planted on the track. They are my best runners and contain the very best mechanism compared to British models form Hornby and Bachmann. Electronics and extensive lighting functions are also where the money is besides build materials
@@Marco-xz9sc Exactly this. We are now searching for an EMD F7 Santa Fe used. The minimum set is a motorised A unit which can be expanded with a dummy with a cab and a B (middle) unit. All zinc bodies, metal chassis, solid motor block and metal gears. VERY heavy on the track but indeed planted on it and rock solid running. This 1 heavy motor in the A unit can still easily pull all the weight of a 3-part-unit pulling metal coaches, take an incline, and the running characteristics still remain steadfast excellent.
I love metal too, I'm a fan of Sabaton... Uh, not this category ?
The Ellis Clark WD 2-10-0 does not surprise me. If you want the same kind in Germany, you have the Roco BR 44 around this pricetag (also a 2-10-0 of course). Ellis Clark seems ready to match the quality of German models, they have an option in my wallet by now.
Hi Sam! Firstly can I just say a huge thank you from Evie and myself for your very kind shout-out to our little Wibbly Wobbly Wagon challenge. We can't thank you enough for your help and support.
Brilliant Model Railway News video as always Sam, I always look forward to these.
Personal highlights for me, got to be the Accurascale Pannier tank engines and the Ellis Clark WD Loco. I cant afford either one of them but it's nice to dream😂
All the very best Sam and thank you again!
Martin
Ahh you’re very welcome hope it’s going well! So sorry that I’ve not had time to build anything yet, it’s just been incredibly busy recently. I’ll see if I can do one in the new year though, as you say there’s no deadline! Have a good one chaps,
Sam :)
I never fail to miss one of these updates, it’s so interesting to hear about what the 00 gauge modellers have planned for the future, Merry Christmas!
haha well I'm glad you failed to miss this one! Really glad you liked all the news too,
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Thanks, Sam, for another great year of model railway news and keeping us all up to date. Merry Christmas!!
Hi Sam, Happy Christmas. Love the idea of the 2-10-0 WD however the £300 is way outside my price point. Re Dapol wagons I do wish they would provide a retrofit option for their previous stuff
I went and did it! I reserved an Ellis Clark Austerity 2-10-0. I'll get a slight break on the pri e as I won't have to pay VAT. But Canadian import fees and our HST will eat into most of those savings.
Now I just have to $10 away per week for the next year.
I’ve started to build my GCR themed layout and I can’t wait! But it’s also perfect timing as I love pannier tanks so I’m definitely gonna get one. Great video too.
Ahh that's very exciting! And fab news - the Panniers look grand!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I would just like to give my input on Ellis Clark's decision to include a brass tender. As a British kit modeller, a lot of the kits I build are out of brass, and if you look at professionally-built brass models, then it is very evident how high quality it looks. The finish, the weight, and the feel of it in your hands are unbeatable. Brass is also a lot more durable than plastic, so using it in on a tender can provide a finer layer while also making it not prone to breaking. For example, a lot of manufacturers nowadays have thick wingplates on the smokebox because the plastic could easily break if it was too thin. Utilising brass resolves this to a great extent by keeping it thin and accurate. I assume that's why they chose to do that on the tender.
However, I would also like to note that using brass is likely not the feature that would drive the price up very much since brass itself is not expensive. The WD's tenders are flat, meaning the factory workers won't have to curve around the tender too much (meaning less of an increase in price). I doubt it would be much higher than using plastic, even though it is metal.
Their high prices are likely due to the enormous amounts fine bits and pieces on the model. Overall, I think the price is reasonable for what they're offering, but the price itself remains very steep.
Cheers, Julien.
Great news update as always! I’m sad to have missed you at Warley. I hope you had a great time! Have a great Christmas mate and thanks for another great year of amazing content
I love your videos. I've really enjoyed them. Your face when you announce the price is a picture and I like the fact that you understand the humour in the hobby. More please!
Thanks so much John - really appreciate it mate!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
3:19 Not quite all, Rails of Sheffield/Locomotion Models are doing an exclusive version in LNER Grey as it appeared in the 1925 Centenary Cavalcade for the Stockton & Darlington Railway.
There is definitely a price for a premium model. The ready to run high end models look better than scratchbuilt masterpieces from the 70's. There is no denying the absolute manufacturing beauty out there right now. It's just not cheap. I think there is plenty of room in the market for a premium, "normal" and budget model - some models are so niche its just not worth making them in budget or "normal" form.
Another set of fun announcements, so much to tempt me. Merry Christmas to you and Chloe and hope you have a great time over Christmas and a Happy New Year! Keep those videos coming ...
Firstly many thanks Sam for these features. I never miss one and look forward to them every month.
I am nervous about the Garratt. I bought the LMS version from them and it came with loads of bits that had come off. Some I could not re fit. Also it never ran right. It was the first loco that I ever bought and returned with no replacement.
So I will not go near this one.
Like how accarascale announced their Pannier's with "Holy Duck" as a nod to the Thomas character, that's clever and I'm looking forward to those as well as the LNER Garret.
haha absolutely - they've been sure to produce Duck's number too!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I liked how at their show they put some faces next to the engines
I can't wait for the new Accurascale 57xx Sam, I've already pre ordered mine in the NCB green.
Cheers Jasper & Willow
I can't wait either! And good choice - the NCB is very interesting!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I could see that LNER Coronation Observation car to be done up in Milwaukee road paint, since the CMStP&P used Beaver Tails on their Hiawatha services
I've currently got the Ellis Clark Austerity on pre-order as I ordered it the day it was announced. I have considered switching to the KR Models version, both because of the price difference, but also because KRM are now offering both 600 Gordon and 601 Kitchener in the LMR Blue.
As yet however I haven't, partially because KRM want the money upfront, and money's a little tight at the moment (thanks mostly to Rapido's Titfield & GER Class C53 Train Pack Releases), but also because KRM haven't, as you say, given us much detail. Something feels a little off, I wonder if KRM were taken by surprise at EC announcement and weren't quite ready.
For the moment I'm just going to leave my pre-order with EC, at least until more information (and hopefully some artwork from both companies) comes to light. Though I might not even get the EC version in the end, £240 - £295 is a lot of money for one locomotive.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
I'll wish the "Model Railway News" Happy Holidays - see ya next year ! !
Sam, I'm waiting for more December videos...
Enjoyed this very much and appreciate your keen incites!
A good variety of news here Sam, hopefully soon I will have my Bulleid Leader from KR models and another model that I have coming up hopefully is the 18100 Gas Turbine locomotive, a lot of good models have been announced recently, the U1 is quite interesting, as I have the LMS garratt and it’s a good model I may look at picking up the LNER one, the 323 from dapol is another very interesting announcement and I am thinking of looking into one of those as well, with this one it will most likely be the northern livery.
Thanks a lot David - that sounds great, fingers crossed those are all good for you!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
10:08 I must say 300 pounds is very expensive, and personally I could do without the brass tender 😅.
I'm actually quite happy that another manufacturer will be making a cheaper version, which one I'll get will probably come down to the finish and richness of whatever colour they decide to put on them.
I’ve already got the GWR 5741 preordered.
Good video Sam , some interesting stuff on the way , the WD is welcome but two firms at the same time hmmm, also these locos' very rarely strayed from Scotland so very limited if you do prototypical layouts.
Yeah that's right - it's a niche loco so you wouldn't expect masses of demand... we'll have to see!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I have the new Dapol van for my S&DJR train. I have pre-ordered two of the Ellis Clark locomotives. I pre-ordered the crane years ago!
Ahh fantastic - one with the new couplings??
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains yes
Yesss I really like this sort of videos thx Sam for making them
Thanks Alex, that's lovely to hear!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Re the price of the Ellis Clark WD/BR 2-10-0 The price is not that bad, if it has a diecast body,etc. The DJH kit K39 costs £227.38. Then there is £83.95 for the mortor/gearbox and £135.44 for a set of wheels. You would then either have to build it and paint it. or pay someone else to do that for you.. A total cost of £446.77 before the cost of building and painting it etc
Yeah but that’s assuming the DJH kit is good value for money, and I don’t think it is. £83.95 is absurd for a set of wheels. Mass produced ready to run locos just don’t cost that much to make, not even close. While the features of the Ellis Clark loco do math the price, I’m just not sure that such an expensive loco is what the industry needs right now, but time will tell!
Great video. I like the news videos. I am curious though: You (almost) always mention that you think the models are too expensive. I think it would be great if you could elaborate (perhaps in a different video) what you think a model like the one from Ellis Clark should cost? I don't like the rising prices either, but detailed models cost money. Also, if the numbers are low, the price is higher.
With regards to the Heljan model: I will put my money on it being bad. They never seem to disappoint in that regard... sadly.
I think the price is fair given the specs given… I just question whether the specs are entirely necessary. But if there’s demand for such a high spec and expensive model, it’ll sell, and that will be that!
@@SamsTrains I agree. Some of the continental models are going mental with specs, but they do sell. I am not a buyer, I can't afford them. I mostly go with the cheaper stuff and I'm happy about it.
I was literally thinking at work the other day, "Man i wish someone would make an LNER U1, and a WD Austerity 2-10-0, literally the same DAY Heljan announced the U1, and KR their Austerity the same week, couple that (pun intended) with that lovely Acurascale 57xx, well im going to have an extremely expensive christmas next year! Doubly so if Dapol sorts out their wagons, I'd love to fill out my roster of wagons.
I will say between the Austerities, I'd be inclined to get the Ellis Clark one, they seem to be positioning themselves like the UK version of Broadway Limited Imports over here in the US, very high quality but with a price to match!
For just shy of $180 USD... im honestly looking forward to that Pannier. If it came with face plates as well, thatd be extra neat
Hi Sam Nice review like the new wagons, Roll on Christmas. 🎉😅, All the best Brian 😃
Thanks Brian - roll on Christmas indeed!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hi Sam, great update as always! Please please will you review both Austerity 2-10-0s? I'm a huge fan of the WD locos, particularly interested in that 'khaki sand' livery. Keep up the good work mate
Love the look of class 323 coming to model form.
Re: Brass tenders" - as an aside, I have had to add extra weight to some tenders to avoid de-railing on curves due to the drag of long trains. But I doubt a bit of brass would help.
Hey Sam. I’m thinking of getting into the hobby but don’t have much space so will probably be making it a 4 foot by 8 foot layout. I was thinking of making it a 2 track layout with a siding area. Would I need any isolated rail joiners?
Lovely to see the acurascale panniers....wonder if there's any chance of a 1300 class ?
Happy Christmas and a super new year to you. Looking forward to more videos in ‘24. Is Oxford Rail independent? Thought they were owned by Hornby? Maybe Ellis C want a metal body tender as it’s easier to match the paint finish to a metal body loco? Cheers. Dave.
As Always, Great Work and info..! Thx Sam. 😎
There were a lot of steam loco announced this month Sam, let's just hope that there will be even more next year.
Cheers Jasper & Willow
I agree - been a great year for steam!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Sam can you help the cause ,
we don't all want steam, the new emu is great but we need a full suite of Southern England emu like class 405, 415, 455/6. Cheers
That sounds great - maybe the manufacturers will turn their heads to more EMUs!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
An NCB green Pannier was released as a Bachmann Special Edition some years ago. The livery was also produced by Dapol in N and O.
Hi Sam, Try searching RUclips for
incredible heavy duty railway wheel manufacturing process
I wonder if Hornby make their wheels that way. Lol.
On the Pannier front , they could have added the 97xx as well., There is a model which would be good for modelling The Widened Lines in London
Ahh interesting - would that be similar enough for them to be able to adapt the tooling??
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Knowing the designer of the Ellis clark model personally I know it'll blow your socks clean off. Whilst I wish kr well they are behind in terms of design & finesse. The designer ellis uses is a perfectionist & exceptionally good at what she does.
Good to see a sample of the Oxford Rail crane.🙂
Accurascale and Rapido seem to know what modelers want in terms of engines and design quality. We got the basis of a lot of Thomas characters now and just great quality models in general
Fantastic vid sam, enjoyed this. The Dapol 323 has certainly caught my eye, being a modern image modeller in the West Mids! Which locos are your favourites of this year? Also, my video of the mystery box is live on my channel now (because I couldn't resist a bit of self-promo!)
Thanks a lot my friend - I know it's a very interesting one isn't it? Especially from Dapol!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I'm also very excited by the 323 which I've wanted a model of for ages.
Just disappointed they aren't doing a version in the Northern Rail Blue and Purple scheme in this batch.
Great video Sam , I’d love to See a Review on the KR Models Big Bertha , and Ellis Clark WD Austerity
I am hoping to review Big Bertha!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains it would be fitting if you would have it as a Helper / banker at some point in your video when you review it
Hey Sam thanks for sharing all the news! I was wondering in future bulletins if you will be including N gauge news too? Or 0 gauge for that matter? Kind regards Terry Lewis.
Sam you have got to get the hornby coronation class coaches!
Hi Sam, I have a 57xx on order - y first coreless loco and seems like a bargain compared with the 'big two'. I hoped Dapol would produce an Arkells breweries van for western region modellers, never mind.
Yeah I agree - the price seems reasonable for what they're offering! Ahh well I'm sure there'll be more vans on the way soon!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
So my guess this is the last model railway, I hope you have a earl jolly merry Christmas and a early new year
All this looks great, but it would be nice if Hornby actually understood what Garter blue is - a light, bright blue. By the way, Sam, what is the width of the sleepers and the space between them in your track? I am making CAD for a new best puller on your layout, as well as a way for you to be able to test weight per wheel and axle. Thanks for all Sam!
Ahh do you think their Garter Blue is inaccurate? Ahh I'm not sure about that - I'd have to check!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains look up garter blue + Bugatti connection, and read the great British locomotives magazine posts in the LNER . Info forum. Garter blue on all models is far off. It’s highly contested, but it is generally agreed upon that the current shade is too dark. I’ll send some photographic evidence with the cad.
Hi Sam. Sorry to put you on the spot: since you have now dipped your toe into O gauge, N gauge and TT:120 gauge, do you now need to extend your Model Railway News to include these additional gauges? I *do* realise that this could potentially double or triple the length of the videos, but can you really only concentrate on OO gauge?
It’s just a practicality thing - these news videos take hours to write and edit, and if I started covering other gauges, I’d just have to miss more products out to make it work. Most likely I’ll just cover major N and O announcements, while skipping product updates etc!
i like Dapol brewery wagons and i like the new locos .
nice and intresting news show as always.
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I really like the looks of those too - can't wait for them! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Another great News video Sam, but, isn't Oxford Rail 100% owned by Hornby now?
Ooo, a new garrat! That’s interesting. But I can understand you skipping it… will you be picking up the new dapol 323 Sam? Or is it a bit too much of an asking price?
Also, I see the new Hornby tta wagons are coming into stock (according to their website), I look forward to seeing what you make of them, assuming you’re reviewing them, of course
Can't wait. Should be a good year.
Some of that Ellis Clark pre weathered rolling stock is lovely, however it’s very expensive. I might bite the bullet and try out one of their wagons though.
Does anyone think that if Kohler was still at Hornby they would also announce that they are doing a WD 2-10-0?.
I bet you're excited about the WD 2-10-0 and cant wait to get one!
We'll see - want to see more details/samples first!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Well my AS Class 37 finally turned up 😀- just waiting now for the Class 31 - see you at the end of 24!
Ahh excellent -how are you finding the 37??
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains - Superb !
In recent times I think Dapol is turning into my favorite manufacturer. Since they are really doing good and affordable products whilst keeping production in Britain. Nonetheless, I think all manufacturers are increasing in quality!
Are Dapol models made in the UK?
@@AndrewKodachrome-qo9qs as far as i know, they're making an effort to make as much as possible in the UK. They recently made a move to start making their own wheels using a special machine and the kitmaster kits and others are also made in wales. However, I think that the main rtr models are all made in china
The smokebox door is removable and there are Duck faces, you know where this is going 1:35
Nahh sadly they're not planning a Duck - someone gave the faces to Accurascale and they bunged them in the cabinet... at least that's what they told me....
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains that isn't what I meant, most thomas customs involve removing to smokebox door, and the model is making it more easy
Hi
You didn't mention KR models The Lickey Incline Big Bertha locomotive in this update
Sam probably covered it in his news about the middle of last year when they announced it. They seem to have taken a leaf out of Hornby’s book - announce and then not produce for ages.
Cant wait to get the accurascale pannier 5741 since thats the 'real' Duck. Also seems like we get more and more news every month! Hopefully that means the hobby as a whole is doing well with all these companies announcing so many new stuff!
Yeah absolutely - they're onto a winner with that one! And very true... so much news this year!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Wow, that EllisClark WD loco looks nice. At that price, it’s around what I would expect to pay for an Athearn or Kato Big Boy. So, if they (EllisClark) made an excellent mechanism, then it should be worth the price. But, I’ll let Sam review it first. This way, we can tell if this is worthy of someone’s layout… or if it’s overpriced junk, fit only for the evil Scrap Man!! 😭
Let’s all tip our hats to Sam. Spending money on these things to review, so we don’t have to. Way to take one for the team there, Sam! 😅❤
Yeah that’s right, and as much as their previous models have been great, this is their first OO loco, so they don’t have a proven track record. It’s a bit odd that they’ve taken on such a massive project as their first loco… think I would have started with a small tank engine if I was doing my first rtr loco… OO is a very different kettle of fish to O after all!
Awesome video Sam's trains
Thanks so much Brian! :D
@@SamsTrains you're welcome 😊
Its funny how every single time I‘ve wished a model existed, it comes along within 6 months. (15xx, and now a WD 2-10-0)
Has there been anything about the KR Models shay? I ordered mine last December and I'm just fed up with all of their delays
There was a sample at Warley, but I’ve not seen any updates! Thing about KR is that YOU pay for the models to be produced… so they announce early, charge you a deposit, and use that to pay production costs…. So it takes a loooong while!
I bet one of the gwr green 57xx locos have duck's rws number. I might get that one to make a rws duck.
Tbh, the prices of these newly announced locomotives are making me want to aim more at expanding my 1950s/60s Hornby Dublo collection....
Hi, im confused with the WD 2-10-0 announcements as i will be purchasing one but i have no idea which i should go for when in reality the loco will stay in its box in a cupboard.
This may be odd but my Dad, while doing his National Service was stationed on the LMR and as an engine driver, drove Gordon on many occasion, he was asked by the SVR in the 1970s if he would drive for them but he refused as was "too busy" we did however get him on the footplate in the engine shed and replicated a photo of him in the cab of Gordon taken in the 1950s before he passed away.
Any advise on which company youd go for appreciated. I know at the moment its speculative but i have no idea
Sure Robert, it’s very early days at the moment! Based on both manufacturers’ track record, I’d guess Ellis Clark’s would be the best - but we’ll see!
Hi Sam, informative video as usual. When you held up the box van from another manufacturer, it's weird you didn't name who it was, is there a reason for that?
That was the same Dapol van that I was talking about - just one from a previous batch!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Been wanting a WD 2-10-0 for a while, and then two turn up at once! 😂
But too pricey for me though unfortunately 😕
Now you are reviewing N gauge kit are you going to include N gauge in your monthly news?
I'm thinking about doing that yeah! :D
If you review the accurascale pannier you should definitely get the one with the Ncb green
I don't believe I was ever this early... That being said, another fantastic video, Sam!
Cheers!
haha nice work - thank you so much! :D
Another informative video.
I know some people .I,e all thd bells and whistles on a model trains and I respect that, but I often feel we are being suckered by things that are frankly impractical.
The humble spring buffer is nice but really services no purpose in model form.
I model 0 gauge and even shunting wagons with three link couplings the buffers are to highly sprung and with tight curves you get buffer lock.
These models are no longer toys like back in the dim dark early 60s.
I bought my wife a Hornby coronation, a beautiful model, but almost scared to touch it as the detail parts are so fragile.
I had to buy the Titfield Thunderbolt as I'm a sentimental old fool and Rapido warn you not to pick up the loco by holding the coupling rods as they are almost to scale.
Whilst I like all the details it's the practical things that matter like durability, a quality drive train , a heavy engine an,d pick-ups on as many wheels as possible.
Plastic gears is a pet hate of mine.
Could do with more GWR saddle tank 0-6-0's? Oxford Diecast Group not independent - balance of shares bought by Hornby plc in 2021?
They’re still being allowed to operate independently despite being owned by Hornby!
11:56 TBH, this is KR Models, they are giving us one of the most useless models for OO (or any model gauge) - Big Bertha. She was designed to push and that's it. The model is only useful for those modelling Bromsgrove and/or the Lickey Incline anywhere between 1919 & 1955. The model costs £220 DCC Ready which is a alright price but looking at their Fell & GT3, I don't have high hopes
haha yeah I know - though they also gave us the GT3, which is utterly niche for similar reasons, but still plenty bought it!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Keep up the great work 🎉❤
Thanks a lot Malcolm!
if its a tender that's pushing up the price could they do a plastic version or a brass version for those that want it
Probably not - it'd cost even more to set up production for both!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
A few months ago Murphy Models announced they’d be releasing the Irish Rail 22000 class ICRs. Have you heard about that news yet?
I haven't seen anything of that no - will keep an eye out though!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I expect that the WD 2-10-0 is an attempt to mimic continental manufacturers in both features and prices. I'm used by now to seeing prices upwards of €500,= for just a loco from manufacturers like Märklin. And when I say seeing such prices, I specifically mean seeing and not paying.
It does seem to be - interesting idea, but not one that I expect will appeal to the masses... but that's true, European locos cost a fortune!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
A Great Select Sam 🙂🚂🚂🚂
Hi how are you I just had some sad news the paignton model shop is closed I do not know but is looking like it be next year. So if I are coming Down again come so you Devon thank Robert ps love the video
13:16 I don’t think £90+ is a budget model I got an engine for £15 the other day at a model railway exhibition
Yeah unfortunately that's the way things are these days - you won't find many new loco releases cheaper than this unfortunately!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Awesome video today Sam lots of amazing modles
Thanks James!
Where's the 009 narrow gauge news? Linda and Blanche from Bachmann, expensive Peco Ffestiniog bogie carriages, Ashover carriages from Bachmann...
Oh dear, modelers are unleashing the beast (the lner garret)
Hi Sam. Totally understand if you don’t think it’s worth a mention but any thoughts on the newly announced wireless control system from Bachmann?
Hey Greg! I think it's a hard sale in light of Hornby's new Hm7000... Bachmann's new system has an RRP of £400, and with the bluetooth decoders, you don't need a controller at all! If they'd announced it a year earlier, I would have been very interested!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Thanks for the reply Sam. Yes I would totally agree. I’m actually surprised they’ve gone this route. HM7k clearly has its issues but the basic premise seems to be the way forward. Direct control to the chip over the air, with the rails only needed for basic power supply. The fact that it’s cheap and easily update-able is a bonus too.
I know someone will be getting at least 1 of the lmr austerity lol really cool video
Ahh fantastic, haha!!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Sam where do you get most of your model trains
It does vary, but most come from Hatton's, TMC, or Derails models!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
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Surely at this time of year at least one or two must come from Father Christmas ?
hey sam just wondering will there be a christmas special this year? great video by the way
There'll be a Christmas special stream but that's all!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
The EMU looks good .
It really does... amazing features as always from Dapol!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I know there’d be licensing issues, but it would be really nice to get the Accurascale Pannier in Railway Children colours. The Bachmann version is long overdue an upgrade.
That would be awesome wouldn't it? I'm sure they'd look into it if there was demand!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
My understanding is that it is a very anachronistic locomotive for that story anyhow.
Thanks for bringing together the news!
Pardon the rant though on Oxford Rail - don't think you've done a review of their Mk3 coaches but they've been terrible and constantly derail. I know Bachmann stuff is twice the price but it has the weight and quality of construction to run reliably which I personally prefer!
Excited for those 323s.
With manufacturers struggling to try and outdo each other by stuffing their models full of junk you don't need you have to ask yourself this. How much of the time is a steam loco running with its firebox door open, compared to how much of the time do steam locos run without any crew in them........🤔