@@kitchensbyrannesAustralia turned metric in the ‘70s , thank goodness. I understand Liberia and Myanmar are the only other countries that still use imperial.😂
Add Canada and the USA to the list. I'm not too bothered with inches. I was metric until I moved here 11 years ago. We're using Celsius and kilometers etc. It's really only in construction we use imperial and for big-ass trucks and TVs 🤣
BRILLIANT!!! I am in the midst of a full kitchen reno, removed 12" soffits, removed the old uppers, lowers and counters and gutted the room to the studs. I have been wracking my brains on how to do my upper and lower under cabinet lighting but this is 1000% the answer. AMAZING!
Where do you drill the upper hole to run the low voltage wires behind the drywall? And do you have any pictures of the finished under counter plug. Thank you for the helpful videos, much appreciated!
I drill the upper hole a few inches above the bottom of the wall cabinets, so you cannot see it when the cabinets are fully installed. I do not have any pictures of the plug but it is literally just a few feet of cable with a connection box + receptacle at the end, and not attached to the wall or floor.
Thank you for your question. If you have a 26x26" corner cabinet, you'll use two 15" lights, one in each direction connected to the light under the respective adjacent cabinets.
@@kitchensbyrannes Thank you for such a fast response! Your videos have been so helpful. Revonating the kitchen during the day and watching your videos at night 😀
Awesome my question was the same..do they have angle connections..we bought a kitchen cabinets etc...got everythi g wrong from ikea size of cabinets lights everything was such a mess like they didnt cour diagram was correct for the kitchen that it we have had to go back so many times.... ikea a 38 billion dollar company has to do better...its been a fiasco.....they should pay you for your videos...they truly are top notch.. thanks
Important to note that Rannes lives in Canada, and would be subject to the Canadian Electrical Code. That's similar to the US electrical code (NEC), but has a number of small differences. I'm fairly certain that the NEC does not prevent you from placing an outlet in a cabinet, it just wouldn't count towards the required number of countertop outlets. Relatedly, the microwave outlet is often an individual branch circuit, which means it's only allowed to serve a single load (the microwave). So it often only has a single outlet, and you may be prevented from adding a second outlet even for a relatively small lighting load. That said, I'm not an electrician, just a guy reading the codes. And all of these things have state/province and municipal variances.
Thank you for your input. Here's what I know. In Ontario where I install kitchens, it's NOT allowed to have an electrical outlet inside a cabinet with a door on. However, a few exemptions of course. One is the cabinet for the microwave hood, and inside the sink cabinet, for one of those garbage grinders, is another. I'm not an electrician either, but that's what an endless number of electricians have informed me, and one of them even read out loud from a thick code book he brought with him. Plugging the lights in the same outlet as the microwave hood hasn't been "not to code" at any electrical inspection done after completion of the kitchen. I hope that helps.
I'm asking that very same question to electricians here in Ottawa too and every time I get the same reply. One is to code (for microwave hood) and the other not. Doesn't make sense to me either 😮
Hi again :). Question: Can I connect two VAGDAL 3.5m cords together in a longer reach application? We have one under cabinet light that we’d like to fish that will require more than 3.5m. Thx in advance!
Hi Mark. I don't see why you couldn't. I'm sure an electrical engineer would could come up with a formula saying why it would be an issue, since the resistance increase with the length but I wouldn't worry. If you only need to extend it with a meter or so, no need to use the full 2x3.5 m. Just spline them together. Soldering with added crimping plastic is best, but I'm sure less fancy solutions will suffice. Let me know here how it goes.
What does the under-counter plug look like when it's set up? Just a loose wire with a box on the end? That's allowed? But an outlet in a cabinet isn't? 🤔
Yup, 3-4 feet of cable with a connection box and a receptacle. It's to code in Ontario since the toe kicks are removable. A plug inside a cabinet is a different story since you can, as an example , plug in a toaster, put in a few pop-tarts, close the cabinet door and forget about it, until the cabinet is on fire 🔥
@@kitchensbyrannes Of course! I have to have one in to set up the separate circuits for my cooktop and wall oven anyway. Knowing what to ask for is half the battle.
We hid ours behind the fridge. Used the pug back there (1 for for fridge 1 was free) and then screwed it into the wall and ran the cables from there. The fridge covered all our evidence.
Thanks from Down Under Rannes. Very helpful.
I’m watching all your videos and waiting for all my IKEA deliveries.
Very excited!
You're very welcome.
Australia huh? Are you metric down under or is you stock with imperial influence?
@@kitchensbyrannesAustralia turned metric in the ‘70s , thank goodness. I understand Liberia and Myanmar are the only other countries that still use imperial.😂
Add Canada and the USA to the list.
I'm not too bothered with inches. I was metric until I moved here 11 years ago. We're using Celsius and kilometers etc.
It's really only in construction we use imperial and for big-ass trucks and TVs 🤣
BRILLIANT!!! I am in the midst of a full kitchen reno, removed 12" soffits, removed the old uppers, lowers and counters and gutted the room to the studs. I have been wracking my brains on how to do my upper and lower under cabinet lighting but this is 1000% the answer. AMAZING!
Thanks 😊
Be sure to watch them all then 🙏
IKEA CABINET LIGHTS: ruclips.net/p/PLc79sriClvMTyASsgk5chJPwYmFmDhqB7
Good luck with your project 😃
As always you have provided some very useful tips here, not least the note at the start about being safe with Electricity. Thank you.
Thanks, you're very welcome 🤗
Great help. Thank you!
You're very welcome 🤗
Where do you drill the upper hole to run the low voltage wires behind the drywall? And do you have any pictures of the finished under counter plug. Thank you for the helpful videos, much appreciated!
I drill the upper hole a few inches above the bottom of the wall cabinets, so you cannot see it when the cabinets are fully installed. I do not have any pictures of the plug but it is literally just a few feet of cable with a connection box + receptacle at the end, and not attached to the wall or floor.
Hi! Is there a way to connect the lights to a corner cabinet and then to the next cabinet. My kitchen is L shaped 😕
Thank you for your question.
If you have a 26x26" corner cabinet, you'll use two 15" lights, one in each direction connected to the light under the respective adjacent cabinets.
@@kitchensbyrannes Thank you for such a fast response! Your videos have been so helpful. Revonating the kitchen during the day and watching your videos at night 😀
You're very welcome. I'm glad that you find the videos helpful 👍
Awesome my question was the same..do they have angle connections..we bought a kitchen cabinets etc...got everythi g wrong from ikea size of cabinets lights everything was such a mess like they didnt cour diagram was correct for the kitchen that it we have had to go back so many times.... ikea a 38 billion dollar company has to do better...its been a fiasco.....they should pay you for your videos...they truly are top notch.. thanks
Your videos are so appreciated!
Thanks 🙏
Important to note that Rannes lives in Canada, and would be subject to the Canadian Electrical Code. That's similar to the US electrical code (NEC), but has a number of small differences. I'm fairly certain that the NEC does not prevent you from placing an outlet in a cabinet, it just wouldn't count towards the required number of countertop outlets. Relatedly, the microwave outlet is often an individual branch circuit, which means it's only allowed to serve a single load (the microwave). So it often only has a single outlet, and you may be prevented from adding a second outlet even for a relatively small lighting load. That said, I'm not an electrician, just a guy reading the codes. And all of these things have state/province and municipal variances.
Thank you for your input.
Here's what I know. In Ontario where I install kitchens, it's NOT allowed to have an electrical outlet inside a cabinet with a door on. However, a few exemptions of course. One is the cabinet for the microwave hood, and inside the sink cabinet, for one of those garbage grinders, is another. I'm not an electrician either, but that's what an endless number of electricians have informed me, and one of them even read out loud from a thick code book he brought with him.
Plugging the lights in the same outlet as the microwave hood hasn't been "not to code" at any electrical inspection done after completion of the kitchen.
I hope that helps.
How can you say it isn't code to have a receptacle in a cabinet when you have a receptacle in the hood cabinet?
I'm asking that very same question to electricians here in Ottawa too and every time I get the same reply. One is to code (for microwave hood) and the other not. Doesn't make sense to me either 😮
Hi again :). Question: Can I connect two VAGDAL 3.5m cords together in a longer reach application? We have one under cabinet light that we’d like to fish that will require more than 3.5m. Thx in advance!
Hi Mark.
I don't see why you couldn't. I'm sure an electrical engineer would could come up with a formula saying why it would be an issue, since the resistance increase with the length but I wouldn't worry. If you only need to extend it with a meter or so, no need to use the full 2x3.5 m.
Just spline them together. Soldering with added crimping plastic is best, but I'm sure less fancy solutions will suffice. Let me know here how it goes.
@@kitchensbyrannes turns out we were able to fish it such that we could reach using one length of Vagdal. Thx!
What does the under-counter plug look like when it's set up? Just a loose wire with a box on the end? That's allowed? But an outlet in a cabinet isn't? 🤔
Yup, 3-4 feet of cable with a connection box and a receptacle.
It's to code in Ontario since the toe kicks are removable.
A plug inside a cabinet is a different story since you can, as an example , plug in a toaster, put in a few pop-tarts, close the cabinet door and forget about it, until the cabinet is on fire 🔥
@@kitchensbyrannes Wild. I thought Romex had to be nailed down. But I'll take it because it makes my life easier. Cheers!
Don't take my word for it, ask your local electrician too 😉
@@kitchensbyrannes Of course! I have to have one in to set up the separate circuits for my cooktop and wall oven anyway. Knowing what to ask for is half the battle.
Yes, planning is the key to success 😀
Nice shoes 🤣🤣🤣
Thank you by the way 😉
That's my special safety shoes 🤣🤣
Qwesome corner information
Glad you liked it ☺️
Nice one.
Thanks 😊
We hid ours behind the fridge. Used the pug back there (1 for for fridge 1 was free) and then screwed it into the wall and ran the cables from there. The fridge covered all our evidence.
That's an option too. 👍
Sometimes that's not sufficient though if you have a galley kitchen, as an example.
You could use a magnet on a string, sometimes easier. Meget morsome skor.
Thank you for your suggestion.
Only possible if the wire is magnetic 🧲 ☺️
good thing we don't need an electrician to do any of this in europe ;)
also, we can hardwire those things too ;)
🙈🙉🙊
In welchem Land ist das schon wieder aufgenommen 😂 Amiland? Wieso habt ihr eigentlich nur Pappwände?
Ja, Nordamerika. Kanada, um genau zu sein. Ja, wir machen meistens so, als ob Bau.