HP t620 Plus Thin Client Review for Games and HTPC
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For some reason, I really like thin clients, and Phil has the best thin client videos!
No reason not to, they seem to have sufficient go for 95% of what people need them for. Gaming being the exception.
Indeed made me grab my 2 Acer veritons out of my closet
I have a Wyse thin client and a Wyse laptop with the AMD G-t56n chip and find they are great for running some virtual machines with Xen server. The USB3 + gigabit ethernet means these make great file servers.
@@stonent I had a Wyse mobile thin client with a C7m CPU. I found that it had pins for an extra USB port, so I soldier a USB port to the pins and got an extra drive on that laptop.
To me thin clients are only fun if they are fanless. No reason to have a noisy fan which will get clogged with dust in a thin client.
My Windows XP machine is an AMD 5370 (2.2Ghz quad core Jaguar) with a GeForce 720 GDDR5. Everything passively cooled, running from a 60 watts notebook power unit. It's really great and very enjoyable.
The GeForce is a waste of electricity lol
oiSnowy Even better if you jack in a SSD and dual boot XP/7 on one drive.
I use that gpu too
@@si4632 what are you talking about? the card consumes like 45 watts maximum and not only that. it is very good for a retro gaming pc
@@therealstupidwaffle you can buy a hd 8570 off ebay for £10 and it will be five times faster🤣
Hello Phil, about the sticker, hold it over hot water steam (from the kettle for example) and it will be softened and much easier to remove
George Jibuti Quick update, that trick worked great :D Boiled a bit of water on the oven and placed the plastic cover ontop. The sticker scraper then got rid of it in no time! I'm so happy, thanks for the tip :D
You could just put it in a dishwasher.
Glad to hear that! this trick can be used to remove some stickers without damagin them sometime, I have used it even on PCB's directly, usually 100 celsius for few seconds is not damagin most of electronic details, but good drying after steam bath is mandatory of course. Looking forward new great videos from your channel!
I've also had a lot of luck with WD-40. It really helps with breaking down the adhesive and getting it to release.
@@byronfollowell4243 Yes, I used WD-40 as too, but for painted surfaces its not always suitable, but for PCB's its better, because it also cleans PCB as well
Really like these videos where you find some hidden gem on eBay. :)
István Nagy www.ebay.com/itm/Compaq-Presario-4505-Intel-Pentium-MMX-166-32MB-RAM-8GB-HDD-Windows-95-Plus/273567134686?hash=item3fb1df33de%3Ag%3AOLwAAOSwCVtb8fRM&LH_BIN=1
Love these videos! Thanks Phil!
I've always preferred thin clients and smaller quite machines over bigger rigs. Some of them give crappy performance, but you can still find nice units like this that give some good bang for the buck. I'm running an AMD A10 7860k Radeon R7 APU with 16Gigs of ram and it can pretty much do everything I want to do. Obviously this was hold me back if I was a big 4K gamer, but I'm not and it's a great budget solution. There are even better APUs using Vega graphics now.
Wow powerful machine. What's the case you're using there?
Thanks.
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4CP2AN8895&cm_re=mini_itx_case-_-9SIA4CP2AN8895-_-Product
it has a fan, but it's not very loud. It's also not necessarily a thin client, but it's still pretty small. The mobo is an Asrock.
I'm still rocking my A8-7600 APU.
I've been using one of these as a pfSense box for several months with no issues on 1 gig symmetrical service. The PCIe slot makes this more than a thin client to me.
This thin client just won me by seeing you playing GRID Autosport with ease.
Love that game!
And really, the 1030 in its GDDR5 variant isn't too bad either.
Maybe also something for me and my lan parties.
Please show GT 730 vs GT 1030. :)
This is an incredibly slick thin client.
1:14 "thinkpad t620"
Finally someone talks about Netflix and RUclips playback on thin client. Very good choice for HTPC. Shame Windows doesn't support any launchers for TV usage.
I never gave thin clients much of a thought before. I think I might grab one and see what I can do with it. It might even be a good candidate for retro console emulation.
Really good performance-price ratio! Even importing it to where i live actually!
A stand and a sticker placed like that is not going to deter me. Just modify things and heck cover up that ugly prebuilt HP logo too. As for the stand nice to have to save space but in many households it would not be an issue as they don't have devices all over the place like me. Thanks Phil for showing how you upgrade this. As for pricing I can't comment as I have not really shopped around for these and saw someone comment saying this was too expensive. I know with the Candian dollar value and the shipping cost I see for this I am thinking it would be a pass for me most likely but if I have not said it before in the future I will be doing build that are cheaper than I am used to for therapeutic reasons and so just got to shop around more and more for parts. Anyway thanks for the video.
That way of installing a graphics card in this thin client is done in a very clever way, can barely notice its there with the cooler back in place
I would be interested in seeing a side by side against an xbox or ps in games. Something small and reflectively simple like this would be perfect for my oldest son to start learning about pc life.
Those two serial ports are useful for attaching things like LCD displays and sensors. If you use this for a router you could have a bandwidth meter on an LCD.
It makes a great pfSense router... have been using it for a year now and it’s awesome. Greet review!
I did not even know this existed. Maxed out it looks like a better deal than the Steam Machine. Thanks for the video!
I bought one of that just to use as a firewall (pfsense) for my parent's internet connection.
dual lan ? or with usb to lan ?
Though I love my ＴＨＩＣＣ clients, it's amazing to see how capable these machines are!
I love these thin clients. With the addition of a 4 port network card, I have one running as a pfSense box, it makes a perfect router appliance.
Time to go to lunch... I mean... no, time to watch Phils computer lab!!
Wasn't really listening and thought you said that Microsoft were working on a version of Windows 10 that could run with only 16GB of RAM, and was a bit confused...
perfect for a pfsense box.... :D
These little boxes make really great firewalls too.
Yup I've seen quite a few videos on that.
Great little unit for XP gaming. Unfortunately I get noticeable coil whine with both a GT 730 and 520 - annoying because the machine would otherwise be silent. And for anyone curious, I've ruled out the onboard fan as source of noise. On an unrelated note, its a good idea to tear this thing down and repaste the APU - getting around 50C under full load now!
A thin client that supports graphics cards? Awesome!
For stickers use a hairdryer, it will soften the glue and they come right off.
Nice one Phil, I always enjoy your videos.
3:19: Did that red security sticker say anywhere that it was approved for processing "secret" information? Those "stickers" usually are on the front of the thin client....🤔
I've used Goo Gone in the past to remove stickers in the past. Do they have that in the UK? 🤔
Yea I think it was some sort of security sticker!
5:39 M.2 sata is the white insertion point on the board to the left of his hand. Mine doesn't have that one. Also, to the left of the m.2 he has used there is a pciexpress slot. It's small so I don't know what that could be used for. This board is amazing. At the end he uses the display port adapter. You can use the hdmi slot on the card if you sand down the inside of the black panel that pops into the bottom. I left my panel off for now and my hdmi cable fits fine without it.
6:21 the torq screw has a slot in the middle of it so I just used a small flathead to unscrew it.
amazing board indeed. I can't believe I got an entire refurbished PC for $40
Phill, congratulations on 50,000 subscribers! :)
Thanks!
Yes congrats Phil well deserved
Hi Phil..
as usual..this one of your great video so far on small factor pc..
I think you are very good in hardware presentation..
Your english simple and very easy to understand.
RUclips should have more retro hardware reviewer like you..
Hi All, another nice review phil,
I was going to ask why there was no GT1030 in the original machine along with the graphs of the integrated video and the 730GT, but then i remembered that there are no drivers for XP for GT1030
Regarding the mother board revisions I copied the following from his updated ebay advert, but as you mentioned he has not opened up the machines and cataloged the internals on the sale
The "JAMESTOWN" motherboard will have either a
MSATA or M.2 flash drive. It has both the MSATA & M.2 connections. The T620 Rev.B only has
the M.2 drive option
It must be 2018 as Phils Computer Lab with retro recommends a min 16G HDD SSD - hahaha
I thought i was doing well when i removed the 2 x 400meg IDE Connors from my Pentium 100 and run a 4Gig Compact flash memory setup
Cheers
George
I realised I don't recall seeing a negative one of these kinds of vids from ya. Ya likes all the computers~ :)
To get stickers off I use Goo-Gone and a hair dryer with low and high heat settings and a plastic scraper. Depending on the material, rubbing alcohol works well but always test. Always try just hair dryer first, then go for Goo-Gone, etc.
Yes. yes more talking Phils! If you see her, tell her I do care what she's been
doing; she can come home, yes questions, yes speeches. this pc updates
??????
This small pc pair with GT730, should not have any problem run all 7th generation HD games from year 2006 -2013...
even crysis 1 can run smoothly with some med-high setting..
I have seen gt730 able run Tomb raider 2013 and also Far cry 3.
i play ATS and elite dangerous with this and a GT 1030
Seems like a really good alternative to using an entry level pc or laptop as a home media/ web machine
Yea it's perfect for that!
"ThinkPad T620 Plus"
I see what you did there
Art of Server’s youtube channel confirmed that this unit will run with 32gb of RAM. Go check it out guys! Great review by the way!
Just before the Covid shutdown in the US I got an HP p7 1500z with an APU at goodwill for $6, but it looks like mine has no XP drivers. A shame considering its 4 RAM slots has me believing it is actually dual channel.
E-bay make my happy
Your unit might have been mounted to the back of a monitor so the stand has probably been gone for a long time.
The call center I used to work at used to do similar things and some restaurants/retail outlets will also do the same for their point of sale computers.
Yea that's likely the case! Since the video, I managed to get two other models, but complete New In Box! It's nice to have the stands and other accessories :)
Super fancy little box!
and Does it run Crysis?
It does :)
Great!
Did you not watch the video?
Unfortunately some got permanent brain damage after Crysis relise
A classic
I got one of these back in August. Bought mine on Ebay as well and it was being sold as "not working for parts". The original owner had the stand and the back plate for the ports. The unit was working fine and the only issue was that the included video card was broken. I upgraded mine with a 128 GB M.2 SSD and a AMD R5 240 and 16 GB of RAM. This thing chews Windows 10 Pro like nothing it's nothing.
Nice!
where do you find recommendations about those devices?
Thanks a bunch! I got my t620 (nonplus) running XP thanks to your videos! Is it just me or is google getting worse at getting some information on how to do this stuff..?🤨
Great to hear!
the GT1030 is the perfect "oh crap there's no room for a full GPU" GPU
Looks like a good device to install Lakka on for some good ol' emulation.
Yes absolutely. Haven't heard of Lakka in ages, I last used it with an Orange Pi.
Windows XP had drivers for the APU? Wow.
Use thinner, it dissolve plastic really well, should work great on the sticker.
But does it run Crysis? Yea, I got an APU for my main system and ended up getting a dedicated card eventually. The APU I have is actually not terrible, but eventually you end up wanting to upgrade to run game X at 60fps.
One thing I'm actually sort of curious about that I don't think you've touched on heavily is, what's the lowest power way to run DOS games? My guess is Dosbox on some ARM system, but then the real issue is just how playable those games are. As good as 20W is for an x86 system, many ARM systems will top out at 5W. The same question could be asked about a media server. Of course the trade-off is also the cost of the unit vs the long-term cost of electricity, as there are dedicated media servers that may be a better value.
Of course, this video is interesting as always. Overall thin clients sound great for their small size, but they always leave me wanting for all the compromises they give for upgrading. At least they're not nearly as bad as a laptop.
Not cheap, but the latte panda alpha is probably the lowest power machine available that is capable of decent DOS emulation. The TDP for that unit is about 7 watts.
Well, the VIA Eden ULV gets down to 1W TDP (plus the rest of the system). And again whole ARM systems can be down to 5W, although I'm not sure if Dosbox Dynarec is good enough for ARM at that wattage. I'd imagine convenience also plays somewhat into it as well as quality (as Dosbox is only ~95% compatible, but then I'm not really sure what even a barebones system compatibility really is like percentage wise).
I'd imagine the Orange PI would be a better value/power over the Latte Panda Alpha. One thing I'm actually rather curious about is whether the 486 MiSTer core does a good job of old DOS demos as just about everything but an actual 486 tends to run a lot of them horrible or not at all. I know I'd be a lot more interest in a Thin Client that was in the $15-$20 range (as some of the earlier ones are) than ones that start to approach the price of a used, but older, whole computer. Then again, I'm generally not too sensitive on fan noise.
If you wanted X86 devices I'd start by looking at the Intel atoms that were designed for tablets or MID's as they were called in the early days. I had a Fit PC 2 that I think topped out at 2.5w. it was powered by an atom Z530. I was totally blind sided by the now infamously bad Linux support but it ran XP well enough. AMD made equivalent processors too starting with the Geodes and later 'cat' core C series CPUs. The Liliputing website used to give them lots of coverage back in the day.
Yea, Phil has already done some videos with Geode processors but the lowest rated Geode I see on Wikipedia at least is 2.8 TDP (but 1.2 W). Looking on ebay at least I see more netbooks rather than nettop/thin clients with the Z530 but then the former gives you less flexibility for powering the screen (including not at all if you go headless).
Overall, I don't think it'd be necessary to stick with x86. Now, if the objective was the lowest power XP system, what you suggest might well fit the bill. The hardest part is always trying to balance the GPU energy costs vs what you're willing to sacrifice game wise. I don't think that's nearly as much a consideration for DOS, but then it's probably mostly using XP (or Linux) to run Dosbox because anything period specific has decent sound card support uses substantially more power. Maybe just the ISA bus demands alone would be too much.
Challenge accepted. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_200LX
"A 200LX is an PIM build as an XT-like handheld PC with a 640x200 black-and-white screen, capable of running most MS-DOS software up to CGA resolution out of hand - literally, running several weeks on two standard AA batteries or rechargables!"
Try out SteamOS
If you can't get adhesive to break free, just set the unit so you can soak the area with wd40 and let it sit a few hours, adding some more and working on the edges of the sticker with that tool to allow the wd40 to penetrate more of the adhesive! The WD40 will wash off plastic and should not break it down!
@7:40 it looks like if you cut off the black plastic shroud, you could fit a bigger GPU in there. You might have to cut a hole in external box too. Maybe you could even transplant into an ITX case depending on motherboard standoff screw layout?
Just picked up one of these and used easy2boot and snappy as you suggested and things are mostly working well, but I was wondering if there's a suitable configuration utility for the integrated graphics to do things like deal with vsync, set scaling for different aspect ratios, etc. Though Snappy identifies the integrated graphics card as an 8400E, I'm having trouble installing the catalyst config utility -- is there a specific version I should be looking for?
video very clean. On taobao I found all the piece that I need and this type of barebone are very cheap, removing the EXTRA price by weight of the shipment. from 2 kg they go up extra usd, even so it always has a big margin of profit with respect to the European price
Nice video. Nice client. Very good description about video accerelation. Uvd, h264...
This thing really goes well with Winxp and Win7, so far everything I have thrown at it works well from those eras
Yes for me its the best thin client Phil has reviewed.
And windows10
I have two these running as pfSense routers and they are awesome as such.
Can you make a video on the socket 423?
No I went with 478 instead!
Damn, there goes another piece of my paycheck...
Good to know that it's still compatible with XP, I might get one when they get cheaper. Currently I'm trying out a Futro S900. it's not going quite as smoothly as I thought it would. E.g. I can't get any output from PCI graphic cards. Fortunately, my unit came with the riser for the proprietary PCI-E x2 slot, so I'll be getting a cheap card for that and see if that makes a difference. Have only tried some live Linux distros yet because I don't have a drive with enough space. Some of the distros couldn't find the audio. The 1GB msata ssd that came with it was kinda hard to remove, I thought for a moment I damaged the port. I hope the Futro won't make any trouble with the new one I'll eventually put in there.
I'd love to take a look at some Fujitsu Siemens machine, but they are mostly to be found in Europe and shipping is often the killer.
Hi Phil, just stumbled across this cool vid. I have a t620 plus (not doing much). Im keen on more retro games quake 1, apogee games etc. Is there a simple way to put winxp on this device and skip all the hardware mods? Many thanks.
Not quite sure what you're asking? But yes it is compatible with XP, just a bit fiddly with finding all the drivers :)
@@philscomputerlab thanks for the reply Phil. Much appreciated.
Love that Xiaomi screwdriver
Thanks for the review, nice job. I've been looking for a long time for an Ms-dos compatible small unit such as a thin client. Sadly I haven't been able to find a compatible one. Do you have any advice?
Mudda board. Jokes love the vid keep up the good work just subbed
I forget what was the original use of the thin clients since so many people mods them. It's like a dumb terminal? Can I use a old pc like a thin client?
Great video Phil! I've recently got into retro builds and picked up the t620 plus. Your XP install video was very helpful! After using the snappy driver app I'm still left with two unknown PCI devices. I assume one is the sound device as windows reports no audio device. Did you get that installed? Would appreciate the help!
I'm afraid I don't remember the details, the video is now a few years old 😅 All the steps should be shown in the video, that's usually how I produce them.
@@philscomputerlab Much appreciated! I took the easy way out and used a usb portable soundbar!
@@philscomputerlab Hi Phil. In case anyone else might be interested, I found that the sound was detected and installed after I installed service pack 3. Keep up the great work!
@@robotanv Interesting! Good to know :)
I see this is a REV A board. You have the M.2 occupied by the SanDisk 16GB. Is the other mPCIe port that says mSATA on it the same port ?
I've been playing around with the non-plus version of this machine, and while I eventually managed to get Windows XP up and running, I did run into a hardware conflict that took me a while to track down. Specifically, the onboard video and onboard ethernet conflict with each other, and I have found no way to change the IRQ of either device. Sometimes the machine boots fine but the network won't grab an IP address, sometimes it locks up before the desktop even shows up, and sometimes it says the network device failed to start (code 10). And this problem only happens after I have the video card drivers installed (so the problem goes away after drivers are installed but if I disable the video card device). Even tested on 2 different machines with 2 different motherboard revisions. I ultimately just disabled the ethernet in the BIOS and installed a small dual-band wifi dongle into one of the internal USB ports and problem solved. Also, my benchmark scores, while still very good for a thin client aren't as good as yours - not sure if it just an XP-specific thing or if there's an actual hardware difference of some kind between the plus and non-plus versions. Tried different video driver versions all to no avail. I did get a modest increase in performance by upgrading the ram from PC8500 to PC12800.
maybe a bit late; but.. the ram wasn't correctly placed or i did saw wrong??
Hello Boys and Girls. I just found out that this model accepts two 16GB RAM modules. Yup! 32GB of RAM!
Indeed the ram is not by any means cheap for 2x 16gb modules though.
This system also doubles as a great pfsense system too with the pcie slot!
these are way better than getting an android tv box. Why buy a crappy Android box for your non smart tv, when you can get one of these and give your tv Windows 10! lol
Android TV boxes have usable remotes, can be turned on remotely, support hdmi CEC, have lots of native TV apps that scale well, and are cheaper. I don't see any advantages for the thin client
which exact gt 1030 model did you use in this video?
Can´t find much details on which cards come with the half sized PCI bracket to fit in this machine.
Also is the airflow still enough when using a 1030? Seems like it´s slightly thicker than the 730
Got a t620 plus and a ssd, installed win10 pro and will plan using it as a media client or even emulation box but 4k60 on my TV would also be nice to have so my GT 730 isn´t powerful enough :D
However i´m quite impressed by this thinclient, it´s quite useable while my t610 plus struggles with almost eveything and i´ll probably sell it since i´ve got the better one now.
Most cards come with the bracket, but they advertise this poorly. Check with the shop before you buy! My model is from Gigabyte.
@@philscomputerlab thanks for the info!
Phil great review im using this for XP is there anyway to slow down the noisy fan in the power option theres a thermal option but the cpu fun fan speed states n/a and cannot be changed :( Also for XP shoukd the multi processor option be enabled or disabled?
nice little box, would love to see benches compared to a core2 or similar in overall performance as that would be what it would run against realistically; price at least over here is a bit high(can buy a laptop at about the same) but still a nice package
a core 2 quad has more performance everywhere (in both single core and multi core) but not by much, and the core 2 duo has better single core performance (by a far margin) but only slightly worse multi core than the GX-420 has.
just go by this www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-Core2-Quad-Q6600-vs-AMD-GX-420CA-SOC-vs-Intel-Core2-Duo-E8600/1038vs2121vs957
I've removed stubborn stickers with WD-40, might be worth a try. Use Isopropyl alcohol afterwards
Got a couple T630 and two m.2 sata modules (16gb and 128gb), but unfortunately can't install windows xp. For win 10 and linux, and just office and youtube,they are very capable machines if you find them cheap.
With those specs and extension slots its not really a thin client anymore but a small PC.
Phil ive just picked up one of these at a good price. Did you have to change the bracket on your GT730 to get it to fit the GPU slot? On my Palit GT730 version it doesnt fit correctly the HDMI port is partly cut off (like in your video at 7:58) or were you using the DVI port instead?
It needs to be low profile!
@@philscomputerlab The one im using is a low profile card the same Palet model you used at 05:38 in your T610 plus video.
Not sure, I don't remember having any issues.
@@philscomputerlab No worries changed the bracket works great.
How would this thing do with emulation? Just found one on Craigslist, and I'm a sucker for super small machines. Love my NUC.
Nice video. Do you have any experience with the low profile RX 550 in the sff HP machines?
Nope.
It's even cheaper than what I found in China...
Been thinking of something like this for making a smart TV box with a Linux Distro designed for the task to save my dad from buying a new TV, or even worse, one of them cheap Android TV boxes.
The sticker, have you used oil and rub it away?
is it possible to put an yeston RX 550 low profile?
bruh thats exactly waht i was coming here to say
Yes, it'll fit, but you will run into power limits. The RX 550 uses a lot more power than the GT 730 and GT 1030 does (at max the GT 1030 uses only 30w, while the RX 550 uses around 40w-50w which doesn't leave a lot left with only a 90w PSU that this system has). With my HP T620 plus and a GT 1030 8GB Ram, an external 1TB HDD, an internal 1TB m.2 SATA SSD my max power usage is around 50w when everything is being stressed. The RX 550 would push you very close to the PSUs 90w which isn't good for the PSU.
The PCIe slot has a pretty low power limit as well ( it's far under the 75w that the PCIe spec usually uses) this also only has a 90w PSU.
With a dedicated GPU you won't have much power left over for peripherals (with the higher power usage than the GT 1030 you'll have even less power available, if the PCIe power can provide enough power to the RX 550 to run properly). The RX 550 also runs a lot hotter than the GT 1030 does, and this will cause issues with how the cooling setup in this. Being that the PCIe cards partially block the cooling fan, The cover that's used to direct air onto the CPU heatsink will have to be removed for that RX 550 to even fit then you won't have any air flow for the CPU heatsink.
But in reality the CPU in this isn't enough to even push a GT 1030, you'll run out of CPU grunt well before you run out of GPU power. The CPU is constantly pegged at 100% in games while the GPU is hovering around the 40-60% usage range, so the CPU in this bottlenecks the GT 1030.
I bought this and a GT 1030 to use it as an HTPC and for this use its perfect, the onboard R3 8400 just couldn't cope with RUclips videos and high bitrate 4k video playback, the GT 1030 solved those issues as the video uses the GT 1030 to decode the video instead of the CPU or built in R3 8400.
While it can game, just do not expect much from it, it can emulate pretty decently up to the Dreamcast and it'll do some PSP (but PS2 is out of the question). It'll do American truck sim, it'll play elite dangerous (but you'll get frame drops when around stations, and see single digits when in conflict zones). It'll do older games quite easily so it does make a pretty decent retro game PC.
something powerpc, or have we reached the point where arm based android desktops are becoming worthy of a tinker?
If you know about HP's computers, you better have torx t8 and t13 i believe, that and a phillips because sometimes they use that.
sucks, but at least torx is a good screw
This is some WinXP emulator? Virtual Box or something? How you run winXP game on win10?
T620 with only integrated GFX chipset display 2560x1080 px ? In Poland easy access on auction is only to slim model (not +) with 2 or 4 core processor.
I have a 5740e, It's not a powerhouse but it's compact, runs XP and 7 embedded no problems. It's nothing like the t620 or t610 for that matter. What's interesting at least for me HP offers the images for XP and 7 embedded right on the support page. Sure, both require some tweaking and are highly out of date but that can be kind of fixed as of now. I wouldn't as I use mine strictly offline, but if I was desperate enough these thin clients do cruz the web shockingly well.
I think I've got such a model with the Atom processor. Runs XP allright AFAIK.
PhilsComputerLab Yup. It does about we well as a netbook over all but the disk on module is still faster than the old hard drives at the time. Still isn't blazingly fast, but it's extremely stable. A buddy of mine has one he mounted a ssd in. It's his little server. So, I think if you keep your expectations within reason, it's not a half bad device. I've been thinking about finding the extension so I can put a small video card like you did. It would take a load off that CPU and single channel bus. I can't see how it would hurt. If they sold netbooks with real GPUs back in the day, I almost bet they would have been popular.
Yea I got to find a project for that machine, but before I look at the 5740, I got to review the 5710 :)
@@philscomputerlab That's a decent specimen. Probably could run BeOS on them pretty well with only 256mb ram or Windows 98/2000. My last one had an AMD geode nx cpu, I can't decide if that one was faster or not. But the 7000m on the 5710 would make a very decent dos gaming chipset.
@@PearComputingDevices I will test DOS and Windows 98 on that one :)
My t620 plus can't switch at gpu HD 8490 ( PCIE ), how to fix that ? bios settings ?
Soaking the sticker with alcohol might take it off, or you could use a heat gun.
1:15 I didnt know HP and Thinkpad where the samething. You done mess up lol