Research Machine Shop tour / Brown & Sharp 618 / MY Top 10 hand tools list
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- This week I show you a very special to me machine shop. One that I have learned a lot of what I know in. We also trouble shoot the 618 Micro Master
and I share with you some of my top 10 hand tools.
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The smile on your face when the surface grinder moved smoothly was as priceless as all of your videos!!! Keep up the good work, and Thank You!!!
Got to appreciate it when you win one!
You need to build a bug zapper grid by that door 😂. Big enough to zap a sparrow!
So nice sir
Thanks Steve. I think of those scissors as telephone shears. I buy those every time I find a brand that I don't have yet. My favorites are Wiss and there is one that is made in Germany. I also want to get a pair of those Nipex pliers.
good look at the shop and tools steve
Great to see that Browne and Sharpe grinder is ok! That's a sweet piece of gear. Thanks for the work shop tour! I got my experience in a small proto shop just like that!
Excellent video as always ,enjoyed the shop tour . It’s a good thing to take pride in one’s work ,your enthusiasm drives others .
The hot sauce was excellent. Request larger bottles :D
You might like a bug zapper on the corner of the shop. I should help with bugs . Since the light draws so many. Plus its fun to hear them being zapped from short blips to long gazzaps.
Cora struck it lucky when she found you and your family. You can see how much she loves you all, and it has been good to see her worry and stress drop away as she realised over time that she had found her forever family.
I'm glad she found us. She keeps me smiling
I can testify the little sunex bit n ratchet set is pretty good. Wife got it for me years ago.
Thanks for your visit to the work shop, Steve. Nice.
Nice tour. I have a Tormach 8L in my shop, it is a timesaver for sure.
Hey, I run a small CNC job shop and I usually make 1 offs too. Todays a rare day that I get to make 10 pats of the same design. Cool shop tour! I very jelly of a few tools. I also love to see how other small shops do there shit, so thanks!
Noticed the cable for the mag chuck is dragging as the table thavels left and right, don't want it to rub through. Love your varied content. Alan, UK.
I bought a Milwaukee battery powered 3/8 ratchet on the strength of watching you work on your truck with it - already it's indispensable! Thanks.
So happy for you with the Browne & Sharpe grinder! Also, my family loves the Full Tang hot sauce.
Damn, that Steelworkers adjustable wrench is just gorgeous. :o
This is the same thing I do for The University of Delaware. I run a small machine shop and build stuff for the labs and professors for experiments and work on lab equipment such as centrifuges and table shakers incubators and such that is crazy I have been watching you for years and either missed it or was not paying attention and thought you worked at a machine shop making parts for repairs and stuff. I get all my projects on napkins or a thought and they are not quite sure what or how they want it made and I do a design and they look at it or I will try to make it out of 3d printing and then they can see it and maybe try it out to see if it works or fits their needs and then I will make it out of metal or whatever they need. I have found out that the 3d printing saves a lot in materials and time so you don’t spend a lot of time on remake of a part and stuff. I love my job never the same part over and over different every time and it makes it interesting keeps me begging for more.
Sounds Very familiar 🤔 😄
The video shows up one of the problems us hobby "machinests" have; the price of machine maintenance. The oil change on the grinder using Mobile Vactra 1 (the equivalent in the UK) , would need 2.1/2 buckets of oil at about £120 a bucket plus tax at 20%. That's £380, which is money that could well go to new tooling or taking the wife away for a weekend. Maintaining a decent workshop is an expensive business, let alone buying new machines or tooling.
Steve I also have a set of those Knipex Cobras and a set of the Knipex smooth jaw Pliers / Wrenches. My only beef with them is when you're left-handed, it's tricky to push the button to adjust them. The work-around required is to change to your right hand to use your thumb, then swap back to your left. A bit of a pain, but they're so good in all other repects, it makes up for the left-handed tricky part. I also agree with your choice of the Klein multi-bit screwdriver. I believe they call it a 7-In-1.
I have one of those boost packs (different brand), mine has seen use 4 times in the last 24 hours, as my car had its previous battery suddenly die, I was headed out on a trip, when i got in the car, it barely turned over, so I boosted using my pack, arrived at my destination (london) and parked up for a few hours, came to go home battery dead, got me started again. arrived home late so this morning i used it to boost the car again while testing (alternator was giving good output) then a 4th time to get me down the auto shop and pick up a new battery (turned out the old battery was 9 years old). so yes i can fully attest to keeping one of those in the car, 4 starts (of a 2 litre diesel) and it was down to 50%power, (and is on charge being topped up as I type)
Hi Steve, when you were saying about the jerky travel on the B&S surface grinder my first thought was air in the system, good to see topping up the oil sorted that. Another little tip, try to minimise stopping the spindle when you're working the machine, but if you do have to stop the spindle for any reason, remember the wheel will move a gnat's cock on restarting due to inertiia so take a light skim with the diamond before resuming grinding. All The Best from sunny-ish Midsomer Norton.
Thank You Steve. that shop tour was drool worthy. You sir have the DREAM job. Not a assembly line, not a job shop... a RESEARCH Shop. Working with brilliant people and turning their dream idea into a finished research tool. Whatever else you do in life, you will know that YOU participated in some development that changes mankind forever. Also: Great on the grinder. and Cora is sooo cute...
I will order some hot sauce.
Thank you! I hope you like it!
Hi Steve you need to install a wicket door into one of those large doors,it will save you lots of pain.
🚪 for the win!
If this uses a ram to move the bed , then the slowing at mid travel may indicated a worn ram barrel where the fluid is leaking past the piston. The mid travel area is where most movement will have occurred during the machine's life
Nice tour. Been considering that small bench top Dake press.
Great video Steve!!
The pump is definitely cavitating? Probably needs 7-8 gallons to pickup properly, depending on the pickup tube length? Nice surface grinder, Steve.
Shop light a good idea would be to get an old phone pole, and mount it to the side of the door, about half way to the house along the road, with the light on top of that. Then you get both yard light, and light on the shed and drive, but not as big a bug problem. Bring the cable down, and run under the ground in conduit, and up the side to the old light position, so the power is exactly the same. If you want you also put a photocell up by the shop top, and then no need to turn on at night, plus you can place a smaller one to light up the side of the shop by the creek, 10W will do, to give light at the side, and same for the other side and the rear. At least LED floodlights are lower power than the old version of a 125W mercury vapour lamp, though the old mercury lamp, provided you bought a good quality one, would last, running dusk to dawn, for 3 decades or so.
Decent ideas, many ways to skin this cat, will probably need a multi pronged approach... However, I've gotten the impression that his property is more or less on rock. Setting a pole might be quite the feat. Even more so to trench. but getting the brightest of lights away from that door one way or another is probably key. The comedy option is having one of those weed torches staged by the door. Sparking that up and clearing the swarm before entering. Might want to have some sort of firefighting contingency along with that...
@@davewood406 Yes the property is built on shale, but easy enough to borrow or rent a large SDS plus hammer drill, and make a series of deep holes in solid rock, and then place in some steel angle, and use an anchoring cement to fill the holes to hold them. Cable can be run surface in steel pipe, with it running to the side then if you cannot dig, or dig down into the shale, or simply have an overhead line like the shed power already is.
That's a nice, neat little shop you have at work, Steve. So nice to hear someone praise where they work, instead of complain!
Happy Saturday morning Steve, Cora, Hot Sauce, and Grits! Cool departure from the normal video. Glad about the grinder, it shows great promise for nthe future. Enjoyed the shop tour, Tools, and Hot Sauce. The adjustable wrench is also known as a Spud Wrench, I carry one on my tractor for adjusting top links and lining up pin holes. Thanks for sharing as always, God Bless! Happy Father's Day
Need more squirrel footage. I always look forward to your video and great explanations and detail. Thanks.
That’s great that the grinder just needed a drop of oil. I have a pair of the Knipex parallel jaw channel locks and I use them all the time, the grip they manage to produce is impressive.
I ordered a bottle of the Full Tang hot sauce from Amazon and arrived yesterday. It is a very good and recommendable sauce. Also, great care was taken to not only properly buble wrap it but also place it in a corrigated cardboard box to survive any rough handing. Both of my observations go to prove Bradley's pride and care in what he does.👍🏻
I like your shop better! 😁
That dumore drill press is in the catalog as a "micro jig boring machine" it is amazing.
I suspect that the grinder has a tight spot and the pump was pushing a bit of “foam.” Whenever it hit the tight spot, the air in the fluid would compress and the table movement would slow. 🤓
I had the same issue with my 8x24 NORTON, so far I'm running on about 18 gallons of like you stated, very expensive oil. Good to see you had success with adding a little bit more oil to the unit. Probably needs another 5 or more. Good video. George from Indiana
Yes, but you can use almost any hydraulic oil there, even the cheapest ones will exceed easily the standard the original machine was designed for, as this is a century old design. Plus with the use case you will be replacing oil regularly, due to contamination with fine abrasive dust, unless you are prepared to upgrade the in machine filter packs to include a 10 micron filter as part of inlet filtering, and then output full flow filtering of at least 200 reduction of 4um particles, preferably better.
But on a grinder hard to keep this without using large filters, so the large volume of fluid, so that some can settle out. Of course placing a smaller volume into the existing housing, using a canister fitting into the existing volume, and thus using less fluid, does leave room for the filters, and having some magnetic catchers on the returns, and filters there, to catch at least the ferrous particles, does help a lot.
But abrasive dust will always be there, and on this kind of machine the one thing that requires it to get regular maintenance and cleaning, which means fluid changes on the regular as well. The buying of expensive oil, versus the low cost one that meet the spec, means running cost is lower, as after all the oil here is not really being stressed any, running lowish pressure, low flow rates and low temperature.
I have been running some machines with plain refrigeration oil, straight mineral oil, simply because it was always going to be contaminated, and the plain oil, with no additives, was both very cheap, and a really good lubricant. Especially with it being changed monthly due to contamination with dust, in a vacuum pump. No need for expensive vacuum oil, which was not lasting any longer either, and the cheap oil from the refrigerant supplier was a lot cheaper than any motor oil on retail. Not worth buying in bulk, a 5l bottle would last 6 months. The pumps were classed as a disposable item, simply because some of the dust did contain silica, and the oil oil went into a drum, which was recycled. Not worth rebuilding a $500 Chinese pump, though I did maintain them, and did replace a motor or two that burned out. Did rebuild flexible couplings, the flex members I made were guaranteed to outlast the pump, being made from scrap conveyor belting, over the original mystery rubber like plastic of the originals.
"I love the kalamazoo" but Steve, wouldn't it be great if DoAll made a horizontal bandsaw to match your vertical bandsaw and your mill. Now that would be cool! 😂😂
"Macgyver something " to a child of the 80s/90s that was the coolest TV show and still inspires me to use what i got to fix many problems. Self reliance
Great channel !!
Thank you Steve for the awesome video. Your grinder is up to snuff looks like a wonderful machine.
Stay healthy wealthy and wise on my family's best to your family good day
The Kent w/ MillPWR is an excellent combination. Like you Steve, my home shop resembles my day job shop. The first machine that I bought was a big ACRA mill with the earlier version of MillPWR after using a Kent 5 series with G2 at work.
Hi Steve Have you considered a yellow light for the shed. i believe they have been design for bug control, they are cheap and seem to work. Great work shop tour.
Yes or a sheet of yellow acrylic over the glass cover.
Something I didn't see in the comments was the handle stopped spinning as well with the additional oil so that was disengaging correctly after that.
Now for the clean up! :D
Steve, the scissors are telephone “cable splicer” scissors, I carried a pair of them with my splicers knife in a dual pouch for over 32 years. They’ll cut anything if held correctly ;
1)Pinky finger in top hole.
2)Ring finger in bottom hole.
3)Thumb on screw head pivot.
4)Pointer & Ring fingers under scissors.
You now have a pliers grip on a pair of scissors with the squeezing power of a pair of pliers!
Good luck 👍
Those Klein scissors and 11-in-1 screwdriver are on my list, too. I also have one of their earlier 10-in-one screwdrivers which had one less nut driver size. Your day job shop looks great, and it was delightful to see the surface grinder smooth out with some more oil in its tummy.
Consider sticking a motion-sensor on your outside light. The bugs are congregating because it's powered up.
Comment for the algorithm!
good video steve and elisabeth
Why not install a man door in the sliding door so you don't have the bugs come in and lose your heat in the winter
BUGS! Can't stand them in the house. I have no-see-ums that can pass through every day screens. They, black flies that take a chunk of meat when they bite and the regular everyday mosquitoes that come in by hitching a ride in little Sophie's coat are enough to drive me up a wall. They are the main reason we like it so cold up here.
Congrats on the 618 headway. Once you have your plans for it achieved all tightened up and true to the earth you will have a machine worth keeping and trusting eh. Perhaps Elizabeth can help you by exercising her scraping skills. Your work shop job and mine were much alike. Rarely a day that when I arrive to find yesterdays project set aside by a more pressing job making a ? for ? logging machine. As far as I was concerned my hole in the machine and welding shop was off limits to any other person. Especially truck drivers. With a 22 truck and 5 shows of logging, a cattle operation and grain/alfalfa shows I rarely had a day to just tinker. LOVED EVERY MOMENT of my 15 years in running the shop and another 7 years of being a mobile service tech and operating heavy equipment. I never knew what I would be doing tomorrow. My shop was much like yours at work. I made so many one offs I lost count of years ago, LOL. I suppose my favorite tool would be my 53 year old Mitutoyo 6ninch dial Vernier caliper with it's cracked bezel. It spent many an hour on top of the lathe or in my top left pocket in my coveralls. I would say it has helped make thousands of parts and pieces.
Well my dear friend. That/this is a really nice post today. Thanks a bunch bud.
My favorite tool as a mechanic of many decades is a Snsp-on 1/4" ratchet that has a 3/8" drive lug. It is smaller than the shorty 3/8" ratchet and if kept clean and oiled, will withstand all the torque your hand can apply. Mine is over 40 years old and going strong.
For your bug problem there's two things you can try. The first is an amber lens as the bugs don't see things in that wavelength and don't seem to cluster around amber lights as much. The other is obvious which is a bug zapper.
I'd add a walk in door, so a person doesn't have to open a huge shop door every time.
More helpful in cold weather, but helps screen out bugs too.
A trick for using less oil in a temporary situation is to put some scrap blocks of metal in the sump to take up volume. It is not a long-term solution.
You can also fill a softdrink bottle with water and cap it tightly.
Don't use wood or concrete or bricks, but sometimes large hard stone will be okay, like graywhacke or granite.
The volume of oil acts as a heat reduction agent, prolly best to spend a few more $ and do it as instructed by the guys that built it. Me thinks.
@@wrstew1272 agreed, - this is a dirty hack, just to get the level up purely for for testing.
A one off job shop has got to be the machinist's dream job.
Weldon sir
You need a mosquito zapper🤔🤔😁😁
Good morning Steve, Elizabeth and family.
Very best wishes from Wales in the UK.
Good morning all from Lincolnshire UK 🇬🇧
Good morning from Preston UK and all
When you think about it would you run your car with only a third of the oil it needs, great to see it work shows the quality of the old machines.
Put light at distance and switch which light is on before you open the door. Ileagle in some states, umfair to the bugs.
Maaaaaaaaaan, what a nice big shop! Real deal pro stuff. I'd absolutely love to have access to a place like that.
Steve, your workplace shop seems to be smaller than your home shop 😉 we won't tell Elizabeth.
I was not before he fixed the shed.
I think a DoAll horizontal would be much better, don't know where you could find one, do you??
If you REALLY need a tool for low clearance, VIM HBR3 and HBR5. I haven't found anything more compact. VIM also makes some nice, short sockets with 1/4" hex rear but for some reason they are only sold individually. I'm probably going to pick up their sockets in 10mm and 8mm for working on the cars.
Steve, doesn't the B&S grinder have automatic cross-feed? We used to have 5 of them in the tool room I worked in. All had auto cross-feed. I assumed it was a standard feature.
paused your video and went and got me some Full Tang
Thank you! Its good stuff
Wow...either you got a great deal on that grinder or that oil is EXPENSIVE! Sure...$200/5 gal isn't cheap, but that grinder around my neck of the woods is >$5K IN NON WORKING CONDITION. I don't get it, but piles of "parts" around here people will try to sell as "Vintage Machine, in GREAT shape", and you see it's a rusted hulk, missing the motor, half the pieces missing...Price? $10K. Yep...once in a while we find something good, but it's gone the second that listing hits.
Steve I would like you to remove 5 gallons of oil I don't remember what it sounded like to start with ROFlMAO 😂🤣 just kidding sounds much better👍👍
The cable that's connected to the magnetic fixture vise is too short!
BTW:
Klein used to call the snips/scissors “lineman’s Shears.”
I’m showing my age now. 😂
..and, yes, they will cut a copper penny.
The machine shop is interesting. I now see where you get your mechanical work knowledge and experience.
Are your regular small parts (nuts and bolts, screws, etc.) bought in bulk and "pre-0expended" for use by anyone in you shop, as needed, without lots of paperwork? I worked in the summer once in a US Navy test agency where this was done to speed up results.
About the bugs on the large outside door. Perhaps some fine-mesh screen door material sprayed with a conductive layer and charged with a small, low-power electical charge could be naikled to the door outside and drive away any bugs trying to land on or near the door center where you open it. An electrical OFF set-up?
Hello Steve I started working in 1968 at TMW in Reading PA. The company bought a bunch of these grinders for parts production only they had automatic down feed on the down feed wheel (you could set down feed wheel to stop at a set (ZERO) The Auto down feed could be set to take as many tenths off up to a thousand at time on the pass of the table under the grinding wheel ) These grinders ran sometimes 6 days a week 3 shifts for years making parts for knitting machines and medical products. Fast forward 42 years I retired being a Tool and Maker till running some of these machines bought in1968 I know they ran relatively maintenance free other than required service and oil changes You got yourself a good machine
Steve, this video cost me $100 because a bunch of my friends watch your videos and we put a bet on what you do for a living, I guessed a nuclear scientist from some of the stuff from your earlier videos. Bradleys sauce is awesome and let him know that I have sent bottles to UK, Germany and Belgium to my colleagues there..
You didn't mention it but after you added the oil the wheel was completely disengaged. The sound change was significant. So nice to have a simple fix occasionally. Good video. Thanks
replace those bulbs outside your shop with bug light bulbs, they give off a different color that won't attract as many bugs
Replace your light with LED it will greately reduce your bug count. Bugs don't detect the lightwave of led as readely as other forms of lighting.
Hi, Steve, it's Fletch from the UK, I have an answer to the problem with bugs outside your doors; its don't turn the outside light on till you are in the workshop { Simples int it } you know it makes sense.
I ordered the Full Tang after the first video and I love it! It is among the hotter sauces in my collection, but I really like the flavor. It's not obnoxiously hot, though. I will buy more.
Adjustable spud wrench. Knipex cutters are almost as good as SnatchOn. And you can get three pairs for the same money.😂
With your B+S grinder.... You may not have noticed that cable plugged in the right side which is 'rubbing' as the table oscillates. This can cause insulation to chafe off of the wire over time.
When you were grinding the chuck, it sounded like it was cutting more at the beginning of the stroke in both directions. Does that mean you should snug up the gibs before grinding in the chuck and table, or is that amount of table rock unavoidable? Edit: or is that phenomenon due to the spindle lifting maybe? Is it just the weight of the spindle providing downforce against the lifting screw?
I'm a machinist at University of Alaska Fairbanks it's a research R&D shop, I enjoy it a lot. yes I have a shop at home. good video thank you
Steve, i bought and repaired a similar 618 that had autofeed front to rear etc too. The filters for the oil I used NAPA brand and can look the numbers up for yu. Also the cogged belt that drives the table can be bought at NAPA for 20 per cent of the cost of an original. I loved mine but sold it to do another.
Thank you for sharing. Very much enjoyed the video.👍
Steve you would cry when you see my place of business. We have a 2000 ton press and when we blow a seal in one of the four motors that drive the press we can send 500 to a thousand gallons of hydraulic oil into the pit it’s recycled but it’s expensive to replace
I had the same problem with bugs at night. So I moved the light away from the shop about 20ft and it still lights up the front with plenty of light.
Oh it's a lovely feeling when something works out the way the grinder did. Turned it from hunk of cast iron to a machine.
as for the light over the door , maibe move the light to the middle of the yard on a pole or in a three and just point it to the door , that way the biggest swarm is somewhere around the light and not near the door
would suggest spending some time on that cnc lathe and mill if only to learn the cad drawing program you have a few machines at youre home shop that you could convert to cnc if you wanted to and still have other machines to do stuff on by hand
still be a good idea to get an a frame crane , in this case it couldve helped getting that grinder off the palled , guess the pallettruck is too light for it , maine if you have a few toe jacks you can lift it up then pull the pallet out from under it , be sketchy though if one of those jack slips out from under it nothing stops it from going over (you shouldnt even try to stop it or hold it up)
maibe just lift the front and wreck the pallet by slamming the blocks in the middle and the front then lower it and do the same in the back , then start pulling planks and stuff from under there untill its allmost on the ground before setting it on skates , that way if one of the toejack slips the thing will at least stay standing
Maybe you should pull out a thesaurus and find a similar word for awesome. Not an attack on you, but it is the most over-used word by Americans these days.
Well I got 3 of Hot SAauces back in March, it is a dang good hot sauce. Hot yes, but still good. I wanted to thank you for the Sauce as well, good job on it.
Mr. Summers another thing to check is the transfer cylinder connection on the underside of the table. A shop I worked at once bought a used Norton and when we tried to get the table to move back and forth it would bind up. The nuts under there need to have a little play. Thank you for your efforts, Mike
About the hot sauce, I bought 2 and gave one to my friend who is a hot sauce freak. Both of us liked the flavor and the heat was not too great for most folks who eat tabasco. He made some pickled eggs and put that sauce in them, what a great treat. Thanks for turning me on to your friends great product.
I notice that the wheel that was spinning before you added the extra oil has stoped spinning back and forth. What changed?
Keith Rucker. Knows all, tells most. Fire him any questions, surely he will be able to fix your issues. 😊
Send a sample of oil for contamination. don't add oil until you have the results back, otherwise you waste oil. You were lucky as there could have been so much grit and metal in the fluid that you would have to drain all the oil you put into it and then run some karosene or some other fluid through it to clean it. for future use.
I guess I am a wuss. That hot sauce was a tad bit too warm for me. 😊
Yes I bought a bottle of that sauce it is hot for sure, does it mean water can not be added to dilute it, I would recommend everyone buy a bottle
Full Tang is AWESOME hot sauce!