Are Barcelona still in financial trouble?

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  • Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2024

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  • @ItsJesssee
    @ItsJesssee Год назад +2332

    Bartomeu is basically the worst thing that ever happened to Barcelona how do you manage to ruin one of the best clubs in history to this level

    • @Foog123
      @Foog123 Год назад +90

      Glazers we’re taking us on the same route as Batomeu but luckily they are selling

    • @TTriggaa
      @TTriggaa Год назад +155

      People weren't moaning when they were winning everything.

    • @giorgosgiannakoudis2308
      @giorgosgiannakoudis2308 Год назад +111

      @@Foog123 glazers took man united to an even worse route sportingly

    • @TylerSolvestri
      @TylerSolvestri Год назад +2

      Because in Spain many people want to destroy Barca, Barca is a club it’s in constant auto destructions cuz they are corroded from inside by socios who make random elections and get their shady candidates into the scene. Bartomeu and Rosell did all these things on purpose, when they won on 2012, Guardiola knew and left exactly that season, Xiki also left before they got elected

    • @andrephx90
      @andrephx90 Год назад +50

      @@giorgosgiannakoudis2308 Exactly. Can´t quite say Glazers did a bad job in getting money when a club winning a fraction of what used to win gets 700M in revenue per season. What they do (or not...) with that money is a whole other story.

  • @hartdiligence4895
    @hartdiligence4895 Год назад +739

    I want to take a moment to appreciate Tifo's financial literacy and exposure in this video, you guys are more than just football news 👏👏

    • @bradleybeaumont9202
      @bradleybeaumont9202 Год назад +10

      They have been one of the best for a while man. You are absolutely correct.

    • @zzimikk
      @zzimikk Год назад +9

      This wasn't all true but in general, yes they are very good channel

    • @mynumberoneguy
      @mynumberoneguy Год назад +4

      Wow. I did not know. That they were in that bad of a financial mess. I hope they don't imploded. It would be a sad day for football

    • @gordon1545
      @gordon1545 Год назад +1

      It's sad that you can't understand elite football any more without a basic understanding of accounting and economics, but that's where we are. And at least we have some good channels like this to explain it.

    • @mynumberoneguy
      @mynumberoneguy Год назад

      @Gordon Shame you can't understand sarcasm. Barca made their bed now let them lay in it.

  • @priyanksrikanth4424
    @priyanksrikanth4424 Год назад +219

    Update: Gavi and Araujo were registered now

  • @ashleyburns6752
    @ashleyburns6752 Год назад +542

    I think most clubs in Europe are technically in financial trouble, it's basically a bubble where everybody is spending as if TV rights fees and commercial deals will keep going up.

    • @david91lvb
      @david91lvb Год назад +40

      Yea there was a video explaining why football isn't a profitable business

    • @philippmeier3363
      @philippmeier3363 Год назад +103

      Bayern is the only top Club that's neither in debt nor owned by some super-rich entity.

    • @calsta619
      @calsta619 Год назад +22

      Liverpool? But yes, most top clubs are debting their way to success

    • @hiphopotamus69
      @hiphopotamus69 Год назад +30

      There’s a reason they wanted the super league so badly

    • @philippmeier3363
      @philippmeier3363 Год назад +32

      @@calsta619 They are still owned by a rich entity. But you're right, I think they have stable finances as well

  • @k.c.8744
    @k.c.8744 Год назад +167

    I think it is funny how Barca were getting critisised for selling 25% of there tv rights for 25 years for around 500m while la liga were forcing every club to sell 50% for 50years or so in the cvc deal.

    • @Culefrank
      @Culefrank Год назад +49

      And it turns out the La Liga CVC deal was illegal to begin with

    • @uncreative5766
      @uncreative5766 Год назад +26

      ​@Culé frank Tebas is a clown, and I don't even watch La Liga

    • @NgolaNalane
      @NgolaNalane 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@uncreative5766 billions do

  • @philthornton1382
    @philthornton1382 Год назад +176

    The issue is too many clubs are spending over 55% of their turnover on player salaries, it’s unsustainable and ruinous

    • @simonlane6368
      @simonlane6368 Год назад +31

      Bartomeu, PSG and the premier league have thoroughly broken the whole situation.

    • @Jinxonajoyride
      @Jinxonajoyride Год назад +13

      And every time the transfer window opens again it just gets worse.
      We’re already hearing rumors about clubs selling and buying players for record fees and it’s like ……why do we want to keep breaking this record, eventually there’s going to be a player whose contract totals around $1 billion and that’s just absolutely fking ridiculous. I wanna say that’s dramatic but I believe I’ll see it in my life time. There are players right now with contracts worth more than entire clubs

    • @bigvirgvandijk971
      @bigvirgvandijk971 Год назад

      @@Jinxonajoyridebecause times change inflation happens, it shouldn’t be that shocking

    • @KGI_KlikoNL
      @KGI_KlikoNL Год назад +1

      @@simonlane6368 Doesn't matter if they can pay. Barca can't.

    • @fotrj
      @fotrj Год назад +9

      ​@@JinxonajoyrideIt is not as dramatic as you might think. That's literally what Al Hilal offered Messi.

  • @jayme3181
    @jayme3181 Год назад +56

    A point worth making is that Barcelona being controlled by an elected president is a double-edged sword. Yes, it gives a say to fans in the running of the club but also it can lead to political short-termism from a president looking to win the next election at the expense of the state of the club in 15 years time.

  • @PhilliesNostalgia
    @PhilliesNostalgia Год назад +140

    This is part of the reason why Messi didn’t want to come back. He didn’t want to be responsible for mass fire sale of players just so that he could retire there

    • @ninjabathat2792
      @ninjabathat2792 Год назад +3

      but like barca still have to sell players with or without bringing in messi

    • @fotrj
      @fotrj Год назад +33

      ​@@ninjabathat2792Yeah but now Barca can focus on rebuilding instead. Messi looked out for the club even after leaving the club

  • @vishal7arora
    @vishal7arora Год назад +45

    For people saying gavi has been registered...he is not officially yet (can confirm from Barcelona website).
    He likely would be but the catalan media bubble just assumes stuff before it happens ...a lot.
    The thing is approval of a viability plan doesnt promise viability. It means laliga has approved the options Barca is going to take to attain financial goals. This invludes sales.
    Barca HAS to sell to raise money as per the plan.

    • @pr000w
      @pr000w Год назад +4

      He is now, not updated yet on their site but he is registered on la liga's website

  • @prateshramjohn
    @prateshramjohn Год назад +174

    Honestly Barca went downhill from the Neymar sale.
    Bartomeu wanted to flex the club's muscles because of damaged egos from that Neymar "sale". This resulted in years of stupid overspending and poor recruitment.
    While the levers are a gamble, unless La liga becomes much more competitive and not the typical "2 horse race", UCL qualification is all but assured and eventually the club will recover financially.

    • @RobitGalaxy
      @RobitGalaxy Год назад +3

      Not really. 2018/19 was one of the best Barca's seasons. In 2019/20 the club was in a good level. I would say that the downhill started with the covid and the bad internal organization.

    • @VintageFootballVault
      @VintageFootballVault Год назад +12

      Definitely agree this roots all the way back to trying to fill in Neymar’s gap

    • @ellis1469
      @ellis1469 Год назад +8

      The amount of assets and revenue sources Barca has given up for future use to improve the club now is very scary

    • @ranndino
      @ranndino Год назад +1

      @@RobitGalaxyIt's still true that the way Barça spent Neymar money was idiotic.

    • @retiredrebel
      @retiredrebel Год назад

      Fartemeo is a traitor from Madrid sent to break the Catalan spirit. The Spanish/Catalan heart is round & made of checkered hexagons.

  • @srijanpandey5238
    @srijanpandey5238 Год назад +166

    The video didn't mention the refinancing of the debt two years ago and loans taken from GS to achieve so. Also there's far too much leverage on the stadium to pay off the debts which if it doesn't materialize will mean the club going down a slippery slope which I'd say is on already. There's only so much asset to sell at the end of the day.
    Also Gavi and Araujo's contract are/will be registered soon along with other player renewals. As for signings there has to be sales.

    • @nacerddinemahalli7074
      @nacerddinemahalli7074 Год назад +25

      Supposedly football experts . They don't even research or tell the whole truth .

    • @football9958
      @football9958 Год назад +8

      ​@Nacerddine Mahalli videos take time probably all of these happened during the time to make the video

    • @wackiechan300
      @wackiechan300 Год назад +19

      @@football9958 these were confirmed at least a month ago lmao. They literally didn't bother to complete their research and are just happy with this misinformation.

    • @1b0o0
      @1b0o0 Год назад +2

      News from today in Spain are that the board have to provide financial guarantees. Copy-pasting from Marca:
      The president and his managers will guarantee three million euros and present a three million promissory note to avoid a punishment from LaLiga for not having complied with the cuts in the sections to which they had committed.
      The salary mass of all sections was around 104 million euros. The entity's commitment was to reduce it by about 10 million, but so far only four have been cut.
      Although Barça will not have much room for maneuver since they are in the 40 percent rule: they will only be able to invest four million out of every 10 it enters.

    • @shyguy1845
      @shyguy1845 Год назад +4

      @@wackiechan300 yeah anyone keeping up with the club can see that, it's a pretty uneven video, The fact that The athletic the company behind tifo also writes poorly researched articles on barca i almost feel like it's deliberate.

  • @JeseMdeO
    @JeseMdeO Год назад +87

    La Liga dropped the ball in a major way by not getting better tv deals while at the heights of the Messi vs Ronaldo era.

    • @harooney1847
      @harooney1847 Год назад +19

      and they wanna cry about the epl now that its too late

    • @rashidkhalid3970
      @rashidkhalid3970 Год назад +1

      Last 20 years Barcelona alongside Madrid could get any players they wanted nowadays they can't compete with likes of united Chelsea arsenal psg Bayern etc.
      Also add to that the premier league has dramatically overtaken la liga

    • @l.c.136
      @l.c.136 Год назад

      no it hasn't, how many champions league , Europa cups have the epl won again in the last two decades? go ahead I'll wait..........@@rashidkhalid3970

    • @NgolaNalane
      @NgolaNalane 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@rashidkhalid3970EPL isn't the problem. Your teams are literally owned by countries

  • @jeraldr2
    @jeraldr2 Год назад +29

    As a Barca fan - I don't want to admit it but this year's La Liga title might be the only one for a while...
    Honestly I think they should enter a full rebuild. Those "financial levers" were good in the short term but it might have damaged the club for a forseeable future.

    • @danielfonte7
      @danielfonte7 Год назад +4

      I agree with you. Look I'm a Madrid fan so I'm not surprised if I get any slander here but I think the most sensible way Barca should approach this situation is by investing heavily in their youth academy and sell their best players. Investing on the youth academy can really benefit as you can develop players and sell them for huge amounts like Madrid has done with Morata, Kovacic, Varane, Theo Hernandez, etc. In my opinion, they have to go try and sell De Jong, Fati, Raphinha, Pedri or Araujo as you can get a minimum of 60 million+ for each of themI know it's hard but the future of the club should always remain top priority. In other words, pulling those financial levers will do more harm than good in the long run.

    • @tomw6947
      @tomw6947 Год назад +5

      ​@@danielfonte7The issue is Braca won't get £60million each for those players you mentioned, everyone knows Barca are desperate for money and that will go against them in the long run. Good news is this is a great opportunity for clubs like Athletico Madrid and other teams to close the gap and challenge for the top two more often, chances are Madrid will dominate the league but who knows what outcome this could bring.

    • @god-dp4tr
      @god-dp4tr Год назад +3

      @@danielfonte7 I quite disagree with your point. If you sell the best players of the team the team would perform drastically poor which would highly impact the incoming of fans to watch the game thus effecting income through sales of the ticket. Further there would be no jersey sales, less endorsement, less sponsors thus again impacting the finances. So if there is negative income how will you invest the money to develop their youth.
      The only way is to lower their wage bill through negotiating with players and meanwhile the team has to win trophies as much possible. Or they have to sell a part of Barcelona to oil investors.

  • @lwandomadikizela2213
    @lwandomadikizela2213 Год назад +38

    Bartomeu is a perfect example of how NOT to run a sporting institute. Years of poor planning, recruitment and spending can lead once a profitable club to financial ruin.

  • @LordWay
    @LordWay Год назад +6

    Any player they can't currently ratify a new contract for should be sold for as much as they can get. They may have to solely avoid paying fees for players to bring the debt down. The fans and board must accept some potential pain in terms of performance until they steady the ship.

  • @agustowelch1216
    @agustowelch1216 Год назад +9

    People's concern with barca is amazing spurs are in about the same amount if debt as barca for those who dont know and still spend as they please,and their revenue is nowhere near Barca's or even chelsea who have now european competition but yet it is always barca this and barca that, put la liga FFP in the prem and see how many clubs suffer

  • @regikambo3506
    @regikambo3506 Год назад +51

    De jong has never been close to leaving, it's just the media that has pushed this narrative. The problem with registration was with Gavi and not Araujo and that was solved. Also La Liga approved the viability plan and now Barca can sign and register players

    • @vishal7arora
      @vishal7arora Год назад +7

      Approval of a viability plan is not the approval of viability. The plan includes the sale of at least one major player. They can attain it but the rhetoric that the viability of finances for the season has been attained is a jump the gun propaganda coming from clear mouth pieces of the club.
      Could be a problem if players like Ansu, Ferran aren't sold or refuse to leave.
      Don't believe everything the Catalan media bubble says.

    • @thisisntme3684
      @thisisntme3684 Год назад +3

      Very much so, I just posted a comment about the English media's attention aroung this, mainly Man Utd driven articles and click baiting.

    • @thvf2381
      @thvf2381 Год назад

      true, in his recent interview he said he never wanted to leave.

  • @leobestbote4244
    @leobestbote4244 Год назад +48

    The player sale lever I don't see it being so effective with some of the players mentioned eg Dejong so so reluctant to leave and those that can leave like Gavi and Araujo considered untouchable

    • @k.c.8744
      @k.c.8744 Год назад +5

      well barcelona has loanes who will leave the club eventually and some of theme are even on a massive wage like umtiti.
      Umtiti, lenglet, dest, collado, maybe nico and abde
      and even if umtit, lenglet, dest and collado leave for a total sum of just 15m+ which would be way less than they are worth totally if would help barca drasticlly since lenglet and umtiti are on huge wagues and the 200m wagues they have to lower like in the video said are without griezmann, busi, pique, memphis, alba and pique who are all very high earners and apparently gavi and araujo will be able to be registered which means these 200m are already covered.

    • @maciejbala477
      @maciejbala477 Год назад +1

      yeah most of them don't want to leave. I guess you could try to force them out but they can always just say "no"

    • @Culer9605
      @Culer9605 Год назад +1

      And Frenkie shouldn't even be asked to leave in the first place. He has been really important for Barca last season in important games & Barca should rely on him for the future. He is world class

    • @kasinocontroller
      @kasinocontroller Год назад +2

      ​@@k.c.8744 Umtiti and Leglet are worth nothing and will only leave on a free, either through running down their contract or getting a lump sum payment by Barca to end the contracr early.
      Even tho Umtiti was very good on loan - no team wants to afford their wages + pay a transfer fee. And the good european clubs aren't interested in any of those 4 anyways.

    • @pemzg
      @pemzg Год назад

      Frenkie's wages are outrageous.

  • @efrainlagunas
    @efrainlagunas Год назад +5

    3:02 Wish you guys did this after we saw it to get a full picture but I guess it is low-hanging fruit that is always ripe to pick.

  • @krisgordon3116
    @krisgordon3116 Год назад +4

    They look to have gotten past the worst of the financial mess. It will take decades to fully dig out from under this mess but it is doable without handcuffing the on pitch performance and player recruitment. Don't be expecting 100 million + moves for a while though.

  • @RaedVS
    @RaedVS Год назад +11

    Barcelona have always been very poorly managed financially, under all managements really, past sporting successes have only been *Covering* these issues, never really fixed anything.
    They have only become so prominent in recent years because of the failures to replicate these aforementioned successes, but they were never truly tackled, even in the "Golden Years" of the club, under Laporta's first term, and they only keep digging themselves in deeper holes over the long term for immediate cash flow, and new management will come and blame the previous one, and this negative feedback cycle will continue, it's just not sustainable.
    The club will eventually be forced to either go Public, or have direct owners, stocks, and investments, in all cases this financial module of Socio robbery needs to be changed, or the club will go bankrupt.

    • @a-pandey54321
      @a-pandey54321 Год назад

      The thing is they are seen as one of the big symbols of Catalonia,even if they hyphothecticaly get bankrupt, the Catalonian government will still give them a bail out..

  • @F1Krazy
    @F1Krazy Год назад +37

    So their earnings before tax are -7m, but their profits after tax are 98m, but their operating profit is -146m? Is it just me or does that make absolutely no sense? How can they be earning 105m more AFTER tax than before it?

    • @kidpagronprimsank05
      @kidpagronprimsank05 Год назад +13

      Wage bill, loan repayment, maintenance, and transfer payment. And that only football section.

    • @Philosific
      @Philosific Год назад +2

      There could be several reasons: Non-operating income.
      The nature of the business has to be kept in mind when youre looking at the financials.

    • @christoduplessis8177
      @christoduplessis8177 Год назад +4

      Because the one time sale of certain assets (like the studio) isn't an operating income and therefor only goes into the income statement post tax. Not an accountant but that is what I understood there.

  • @edvingrauelfe4615
    @edvingrauelfe4615 Год назад +3

    when tifo posts something about barcelona, you know its not about their football.

  • @ACSR17
    @ACSR17 Год назад +3

    Good thing for Barcelona is that they bring in viewership, so neither LaLiga, nor UEFA will let them go down.

  • @InvinsableNoob
    @InvinsableNoob Год назад +4

    "Is" and "are" could be tricky to use sometimes. Like in video titles

  • @srbtlevse16
    @srbtlevse16 Год назад +28

    The truth is that the club is in less debt and makes more revenue than most top prem clubs, the issue is that the rules are much stricter in la liga and barça also has to take a lot more care of their finances because there isn't some owner who can come and bail the club out.

    • @SKa-tt9nm
      @SKa-tt9nm Год назад +12

      That is true but you are looking at it the wrong way. Barca’s legal structure prevents the club from using itself as collateral for a loan the way English teams can (eg MU has borrowed a billion with ease because the club is worth at least 5 billion). Without that ability, Barca is left to sell off pieces of its soul in perpetuity in order to pay the bills tomorrow. It’s a massive weakness.

    • @Dutchology
      @Dutchology Год назад +3

      Barça knew/know this rules, Those rules are good btw. See what happens in the Premier League, its gonna ruin football at some point.

  • @VarunKumar-ro4ll
    @VarunKumar-ro4ll Год назад +27

    Uhm, was this video scheduled to be put weeks ago and forgotten about? Because looks like a lot of details aren't mentioned in the video. The alba and busquets departures plus gaining 40 mn from the griezmann sale plus freed up wages means the club is way closer to the ffp regulations than the 200 mn mentioned here. Also Gavi has the green light to be registered.

    • @Legnid
      @Legnid Год назад +4

      Plus de Jong, ter stegen n many more have taken pay cuts who were on massive wages.

  • @DarthSmirnoff
    @DarthSmirnoff Год назад +15

    It literally feels like it's all a shell game, and at some point, Barcelona is going to run out of shells and it's going to come crashing down.

  • @sanchitgautam3559
    @sanchitgautam3559 Год назад +8

    Barcelona have strategically sold off their TV rights knowing full well that the world is moving towards digital media and they still can hold significant advantage through that in the coming years. They have few master strategists.

  • @collapsiblechair9112
    @collapsiblechair9112 Год назад +38

    barcelona's plight, the wealth of clubs owned by states and player fees are some of the many symptoms of the problems with footballs finances, it's so unregulated and resembles the free market, money has disfigured and warped football, the actual game is become less important and money is increasingly so.
    FIFA should regulate more but money is too strong and they cannot do anything.
    Money has won.
    To think Barcelona were once proud of having no shirt sponsor and represented something more. now they're selling their soul for more money just to keep up with the rest.

    • @mhtv5959
      @mhtv5959 Год назад +1

      they still have unhcr logo on their kit. They could've sold those rights too for 10-15M Euro Deal to some company but they didnt. you put the mask on yourself first then to the one nearby in an emergency. Barca wont go bankrupt while going sponsorless and promote UNICEF

  • @its_master_Roshi
    @its_master_Roshi Год назад +2

    They'll pull through❤💙😊 "we fall to pick ourselves up again"

  • @akashbhargava906
    @akashbhargava906 Год назад +10

    This video is outdated. Lot of inaccuracies. First of all Levers were used last year not two years ago.
    Also, Gavi and Araujo have been registered already. Please provide accurate information.

  • @spectator00700
    @spectator00700 11 месяцев назад +5

    As an Asian football fan, I think it would be nice if Serie A and La Liga also relaxed the non-eu system to some extent.
    I believe that recruiting high-quality players from Asia will be more helpful in increasing Asian marketing and profitability

  • @mullenio4200
    @mullenio4200 Год назад +46

    It's becoming normal for clubs to keep up with their finances by selling future assets and stretching payments and contracts out for increasingly long periods. Which is an incredibly dangerous game.

    • @BenMcManus
      @BenMcManus Год назад +7

      For clubs like Barcelona who think they're entitled to win at all costs, yes.

    • @rinovaldymukti1033
      @rinovaldymukti1033 Год назад

      It's do or die for them, yes

    • @fotrj
      @fotrj Год назад +5

      Barca had 2 options
      1.) Give up on future profit margins and stay competitive
      Or
      2.) Fade into irrelevance and hope to somehow be back after a few years.
      They chose the wiser option.

    • @BenMcManus
      @BenMcManus Год назад +3

      @@fotrj all Barcelona fans say this. You want your cake and you want to eat it too

    • @fotrj
      @fotrj Год назад +1

      @@BenMcManus No we just want to stay competitive. Just look at Milan and Inter. Had been completely irrelevant for 1.5 decades until the last couple of years. Meanwhile even in financial ruins, we have won La Liga.

  • @tahas8261
    @tahas8261 Год назад +2

    What people don’t understand is Barca selling their selling their tv rights wasn’t there choice. La liga tried to force all 20 clubs to sell 25% of their tv rights to the cvc company for the next 50 years but 3 clubs refused Barca Madrid and Bilbao so la liga told these 3 if they didn’t sell 25% to someone else they’d receive transfer bans. The offer cvc gave to Barca was 25% of their right for 50 years and they’d receive 280 million only and they can’t get out of the deal they’d be literally hooked for half a century so Barca sold 25% for only 25 years to sixth street who paid 607 million for it. And Barca can get out of this deal anytime they want before the 25 year period is over. So they received more than double the money for half the time period compared to the cvc deal and they can buy back their rights whenever they want. A clause that doesn’t exist in the cvc offer. So while clubs like Atletico Madrid. Valencia. Sevilla etc are all hooked for 50 years with cvc Barca aren’t

  • @dcbb8643
    @dcbb8643 Год назад +4

    These are my favourite type of TIFO videos.

  • @zachstolpa6521
    @zachstolpa6521 Год назад +37

    Incoming fans complaining about tifo talking about finances like football DOESNT generate money😂

    • @MrBark1969
      @MrBark1969 Год назад +9

      Not the amount barca owe to the banks... they're screwed

    • @RioFerdiBland
      @RioFerdiBland Год назад

      ​@@MrBark1969Stop stop, their statement was already dead, you ain't gotta bring out the blatantly obvious facts like that 😂

    • @TylerSolvestri
      @TylerSolvestri Год назад +1

      @@MrBark1969 You have 0 football knowledge, let alone economics wise

    • @MercW11
      @MercW11 Год назад +1

      ​@@MrBark1969screwed? Bro, Barca are too damn big to be screwed. If a time comes when Barca are no longer financially sound, the lowest they'll fall to is find a Qatari owner of a 25% stake of the club. I say Qatari because Laporta is fast friends with them (for some reason💀). That's the LOWEST they'll fall to. And that would be a disgrace, imo.

    • @Nope-sj7es
      @Nope-sj7es Год назад

      Modern day football isn't profitable, that's just the way it is

  • @Koksn_Todorov
    @Koksn_Todorov Год назад +2

    The wage bill is 530M Euros, and needs to be downed to 450-470M Euros. That's around 80M Euros needed. Laporta hosted a Qatari businessman, owner of the Baladi Express Group, and went to Qatar, there'll be 2 new sponsors, along with Philips which already sponsors the sleeve with "Ambilight TV" with 10-13M Euros for 3-5 years. If there's further salary cuts (maybe De Jong) and sales for 50-80M Euros before June 30th i think, Barca will not be in the 40% rule, but at 1:1 rule... Lenglet to Tottenham for 5-10M Euros, plus 16M Euros saved from his wages, Umtiti (20M wages), Eric Garcia, Dest (10M wages), Ferran, Ansu, Abde sales can easily cover that sum. They can buy Carrasco for 16-20M Euros, which is pretty good.
    The basketball club is going to cut spending by around 25% too, starting with termination of the contract ot famous player and highest earner Nikola Mirotic. Barca TV is going to be stopped, as it generates annual losses of 13M Euros.

  • @HungryEatNow
    @HungryEatNow Год назад +1

    Precisely everything seems rosey until an unexpected event hit again...

  • @mahmoudbenchehida9315
    @mahmoudbenchehida9315 Год назад +4

    Would be useful to make a video regarding the difference between UEFA FFP and Spanish Liga FFP

    • @sbs330
      @sbs330 Год назад +1

      FFP is the same...its not like each country have theire own rules. They are all under the same umbrella

  • @JFOOTBALL.9
    @JFOOTBALL.9 Год назад +3

    5:20 they have registered Gavi now

  • @loudnessjr
    @loudnessjr Год назад +2

    if i was laporta i would do :
    1) get a loan of 1.35 bilion with installments by 35 years
    2) pay all the current debt using that new long term debt

  • @akoskovacs6830
    @akoskovacs6830 Год назад +11

    Guys, I have a question. Does Barcelona, the football club has this debt or is it for the Barcelona sport teams (basketball, handball...) in general? I don't know if the different sport teams are different entities in this regard.

    • @david91lvb
      @david91lvb Год назад +8

      All the debt is on the Barcelona the football club

    • @Nope-sj7es
      @Nope-sj7es Год назад +10

      It almost entirely stems from the football club, but the debt is on barcelona as a sports entity

    • @comicbookguy2326
      @comicbookguy2326 Год назад +9

      it's FCB as a whole that's in debt, not just the men's football team

    • @RatoneroGris
      @RatoneroGris Год назад +2

      The debt is on the Football Club, but the other sports teams have taken a hit due to it

  • @zilzainol
    @zilzainol Год назад +2

    Most European football clubs are facing financial problems because fans in the Asia Pacific no longer follow European football as they did 10-15 years ago. If European clubs come to Asia, stadiums will not be as full as before. Supporters in Asia Pacific now fully support their respective local football. In The USA itself, the MLS league is growing.

  • @athul0687
    @athul0687 Год назад +2

    This video talks nothing about Laliga's viability plan which enables them to register all the new contracts including Gavi & Araujo's. Just lazy google search video rather than not dwelving into the details

  • @Philosific
    @Philosific Год назад +8

    Thank you for making this video. As i have been saying, this can actually get worse for them, if RM decides to invest heavily in the club over the next season or two and make it difficult for them to win the league or the keep crashing out of CL.

    • @diadiecisse3089
      @diadiecisse3089 Год назад +3

      Real have always been richer than us. But we’ve been the best team of the last 20 years regardless. At a certain level, how much money you make doesn’t matter. You can all buy big name players. What matters is how you play, the environment inside and around the club, discipline, etc… Barça managed to comfortably win the league in possibly their worst financial period. That speaks volume. The team is only getting better.

    • @hajjiyare5722
      @hajjiyare5722 Год назад

      @@diadiecisse3089 you wrong barca before pandemic was to become the only club to reach 1b revenue we are better then madrid interms of club financial and as brand thats why we were bying so many big transfers players past 5 years you can check everywhere

    • @diadiecisse3089
      @diadiecisse3089 Год назад +2

      @@hajjiyare5722 oh I didn’t know that. We were spending money like it grew on trees. Some of the contracts were downright outrageous too. But no worries. We built our best team of all time for practically nothing, only relying on la masia. How much you spend on players rarely matters at the highest level. Psg, man utd, etc… you need a great coach, discipline, and great environment.

  • @picdu2891
    @picdu2891 Год назад +7

    Gavi and Araujo are already registered. Please, check your sources.

    • @nightking8490
      @nightking8490 Год назад

      What do you expect from Tifo ?😂

    • @picdu2891
      @picdu2891 Год назад +1

      @@nightking8490 I mean, it's really a shame. Quality videos, some good talk, but ultimately a pro Premier League and anti Barça bias that always seeps through.

  • @Vultoor
    @Vultoor Год назад +1

    Selling stakes in your most stable revenue streams (TV etc) and spending them on short term player acquisitions feels very unwise given the wider financial situation at the club. Even if the club grows it’s revenue, private equity now taking a big chunk of the pie each year. When you factor in all this plus a new stadium Barca are in an enormous mess and will be for decades.

  • @chadflpo635
    @chadflpo635 Год назад +2

    Gavi & Aruajo have all been registered, what is even this video? Seems very uniform as to the situation today, the club needs to lose 90m not 200m, to bring their wage bill to around the 460m euros mark

  • @fredkaboom
    @fredkaboom Год назад +4

    What's the point of FFP when Barca just finds creative new ways to screw themselves financially?

  • @zenmonk5403
    @zenmonk5403 Год назад +5

    The interest payments for the stadium will be chicklets against current inflation. That move was probably smart, unless whatever contract they signed allows to adjust the rate for inflation.

  • @somkayne
    @somkayne Год назад +3

    Hello @Tifo! , can you give examples of the kind of solutions barca can implement to better the financial situation>

    • @Videos_van_memes
      @Videos_van_memes Год назад

      Play better football so just try to get to a ucl final or so. And further i think we have to get some players, train them, use them and sell them. So buy low(5m or so) and then his price tag wil improve to 20m and then sell him for 25 or so

  • @arshavindrameh32
    @arshavindrameh32 Год назад +39

    Very scary future ahead for Barcelona

    • @harryp6484
      @harryp6484 Год назад +9

      Hopefully 🙏🏻

    • @ousmansano21
      @ousmansano21 Год назад +17

      ​@@harryp6484Keep praying clown

    • @harryp6484
      @harryp6484 Год назад +3

      @@ousmansano21 mans never been to Spain in his life

    • @ousmansano21
      @ousmansano21 Год назад +8

      @@harryp6484 I actually have twice

    • @BaltoSaber
      @BaltoSaber Год назад

      ​@@harryp6484 desiring the bad to other only shows how rotten are you as a human being

  • @lewispalmer8257
    @lewispalmer8257 Год назад +1

    Can You pls do Video covering West-Bromwich Albion's Finacial troubles, It doesn't seem to get any coverage at all and could lead to another Derby or worse yet, Bury Situation
    Thank you Love the videos!!!

  • @cheddarsmith6568
    @cheddarsmith6568 Год назад +1

    This is basically early 2000’s dortmund, just in spain

  • @waffen98
    @waffen98 Год назад +2

    Gavi is registered now.

  • @anansistirade5800
    @anansistirade5800 Год назад +2

    ?? They have registerd Gavi and Araujo

  • @Anonymous-cr9rq
    @Anonymous-cr9rq Год назад +3

    Saudi clubs appear to be overpaying for European players. Seems reminiscent of Chinese teams overpaying a decade ago. Can we have a video on it?

  • @cheifwhat
    @cheifwhat Год назад +1

    Can you do a video on the cause of all these financial troubles clubs are experiencing, particularly in Europe? That is. State owned clubs.

    • @sumomaster5585
      @sumomaster5585 Год назад

      How did you come up with that idea? what did city do to barcelona to make them go bankrupt?

  • @natsudama4604
    @natsudama4604 Год назад +2

    They will be back I don't doubt that
    Even though I don't support them or even remotely like them it's always right to say that something doesn't die if the root is still alive

  • @grantchristopher170
    @grantchristopher170 Год назад +1

    Curious to know if and how the success of the women's club affects the overall finances for Barca. Does that play in at all, or are they treated as two separate entities? Do they get to write off all expenditures on the women's side from the men's balance sheet the way I believe clubs are allowed to in England?

    • @tsukishima123
      @tsukishima123 Год назад +1

      Barca is not only about mens football. It includes mens& womens football, basketball,handball,esports,futsal and roller hockey. We should also consider lamasia operations(barca athletic,u19.....)

  • @listey
    @listey Год назад +5

    Can anyone elaborate on the Gavi contract? They said it can't be registered but he still played almost every game last season. So it essentially seems meaningless.

    • @NgolaNalane
      @NgolaNalane Год назад +15

      Gavin had been registered. The video is incorrect

    • @abhikanur9606
      @abhikanur9606 Год назад +2

      he played as braca B player

    • @euganieldamiao8084
      @euganieldamiao8084 Год назад +9

      Gavi was playing registered as an academy player, hence the number 30. This video was probably made before the end of the season ,which explains the comments on Alba, and Busquets probable departures despite them already been gone.

    • @iJaxy10
      @iJaxy10 Год назад +1

      @@NgolaNalane he initially wasn’t, then he got registered and was given the no6 jersey. But then they had to unregister him to help finances. So he had to go back to 30

    • @NgolaNalane
      @NgolaNalane Год назад +3

      @@iJaxy10 the point is Gavi is registered by the time this video was uploaded which makes the video incorrect.

  • @munawwarkhan1957
    @munawwarkhan1957 Год назад +1

    The quality of your videos has gone down massively over the last year or two. Hope it improves

  • @creasicle
    @creasicle Год назад

    Barca's need for a steady flow of success is the root cause. No club can expect to challenge for the title and reach the latter stages of the champions league every year without fail. Just like how no club ever gets their transfer business right 100% of the time. Sometimes it's better to take your medicine, have a couple of fallow years, blood some academy players and rebuild when the financial situation allows it. What Barcelona have done is catastrophically short-termist. Watching them celebrate that title knowing the financial peril they're in has a hint of the emperor's new clothes to it.

  • @albinbenny2384
    @albinbenny2384 Год назад +2

    Barca is still paying Messi's owed wages. Thats the level of trouble they are in

  • @Jacob-wu3if
    @Jacob-wu3if Год назад +1

    I’m so happy I found this channel. Such great content, the format is easy to follow, and the people are just great. Good Luck to Barca

  • @SkyrimInMyPants
    @SkyrimInMyPants Год назад +3

    There are BARCA MEMBERS who would still VOTE for bartomeu.

  • @honestarsenalfan7038
    @honestarsenalfan7038 Год назад +1

    look i think they got unlucky with how Dembele turned out with the injuries. Not everyone they got for big money was bad

    • @EliasRoy
      @EliasRoy Год назад

      Hopefully, they will release him. He’s a liability.

  • @MrSmith1984
    @MrSmith1984 Год назад

    I'm surprised that Barcelona hasn't recruited a lot of additional members considering the size of its fanbase. Nor done fundraising drives among said members to raise additional funds.
    Heck, they should be looking to get a Government Bailout (from the Catalan Government) as well.

  • @ttnnnaa4500
    @ttnnnaa4500 Год назад +1

    “Barcelona lost €146 million, which is a typical sign of poor financial health” you don’t say

  • @bigjoe8109
    @bigjoe8109 Год назад +1

    Why use EBITDA? FFP ain’t based on that, depreciation makes a difference

  • @mario72554
    @mario72554 Год назад +9

    Did they release Messi or they couldn’t resign him since he was now a free agent ?

    • @kamranhussain2210
      @kamranhussain2210 Год назад +17

      It’s a phrase given when a player leaves (unless they’re sold) whether their contract expired or terminated.

    • @mario72554
      @mario72554 Год назад +2

      @@kamranhussain2210 that’s a lie! Releasing a player means that the player was contracted to the club and you no longer require his/her services ! We can go all day long mind you I’m a specialist in this field!

    • @Vfdi_MErCAD
      @Vfdi_MErCAD Год назад +2

      Apparently, we were made to believe that their salary cap couldn't accommodate Messi. According to the club, there had to be exits before Messi could return.
      They requested for two weeks to prepare an official offer but Messi didn't want to go down that path again. They wanted to re-sign him but they couldn't.

    • @finnmoran
      @finnmoran Год назад +6

      @@mario72554doesn’t sound to me like you’re an expert at all. Sounds like you’re quite insecure about your expertise in fact.

    • @litti1047
      @litti1047 Год назад +2

      @@finnmoranhe must be the monopoly guy 🧐

  • @PUREtrollin
    @PUREtrollin Год назад +2

    Barcelona legit need to sell some of their star players its going to have to happen at some point. They gotta make a profit and start from scratch with cheap youngsters.

  • @paweborkowski6959
    @paweborkowski6959 Год назад +6

    The only 3 outcomes I see for Barca is:
    1. Financial help from a wealthy 'fan'.
    2. Bankrupcy
    3. Selling key players and becoming a mid-table team for 2 decades.

  • @mindphaserxy
    @mindphaserxy Год назад +37

    They spent all that loot for Lewa, Raphina and Kounde. Kounde is a cornerstone kind of player but their rivals are getting...better players in guys like Bellingham.

    • @TylerSolvestri
      @TylerSolvestri Год назад

      Overrated, Madrid can’t win La Liga if Barca plays like they did this year in La Liga, in the last 2 seasons, they had peak Benzema and they were still poor in the league, what’s the big difference in change between an overrated English player and a Balloon D’or winner proving himself?

    • @owanmah2933
      @owanmah2933 Год назад +5

      For 100 million.. while barca signed those 3 players for 150 million

    • @arminius6506
      @arminius6506 Год назад +1

      @@owanmah2933 dude anyone with the right mind knows that Barcelona is involved in some fishy activities and UEFA is just turning a blind eye. Who in their right mind would sign a player like Lewa for only 45 million Euros???

    • @doncorleole2356
      @doncorleole2356 Год назад +12

      @@arminius6506somebody who knows that he’d have left for free next summer

    • @suchitmrzn5951
      @suchitmrzn5951 Год назад +8

      ​@@arminius6506bruh he's 35 basically finish after 1 or 2 seasons

  • @kipzonderkop1994
    @kipzonderkop1994 Год назад +1

    Is the frame rate on this video deliberately even slower than your previous videos? It’s very distracting on this one

  • @ryutenken1
    @ryutenken1 Год назад +1

    I mean of course they are they tried to be savy when Koeman managed and have financially lost the plot since they sacked him

  • @maverick2678
    @maverick2678 Год назад +9

    Sacrificing the future for present success is never a good thing. It will surely bite them back

  • @davidbarrondo987
    @davidbarrondo987 Год назад

    Good research that went into this video, &’ yea thank you

  • @aidanbochey4153
    @aidanbochey4153 Год назад +1

    Does the switch between languages make it harder for anyone to focus on the video?

  • @feedraaaaa
    @feedraaaaa Год назад

    Years of Bartomeomanagment aka mismanagement can't be fixed in a season. It's just a matter of time but Laporta will fix that while Allemany will keep the squad competitive. I have full faith

  • @whatdadogdoin7531
    @whatdadogdoin7531 Год назад

    So basically when you go on a spending rampage in the transfer market in FIFA manager career

  • @kidpagronprimsank05
    @kidpagronprimsank05 Год назад +1

    They still in trouble, just not as big as last few years. But now, they must perform in UCL and cant afford another group stage exit. I can see Xavi being sacked if he can't get them to knockout stage for 3 consecutive season, regardless of domestic form

    • @rmv9194
      @rmv9194 Год назад

      The first UCL group stage exit is not on him, he just played the last two games and he had just gotten a team, that was 9th place in la liga thanks to Koeman.

    • @kidpagronprimsank05
      @kidpagronprimsank05 Год назад

      @@rmv9194 but still, should he fail again, and given Inter in same group reached final this season, with more or less slightly inferior squad compare to Barca will put pressure for Xavi to perform in UCL or his seat will be unstable.

  • @hadyahmed7148
    @hadyahmed7148 Год назад +1

    When are we getting sensible transfers ?

  • @mnthol
    @mnthol 6 месяцев назад +2

    What makes Real better financially?

    • @tredaviousbowser7931
      @tredaviousbowser7931 5 месяцев назад

      They have made smart transfers and haven’t overspent

    • @billinglumbalumba
      @billinglumbalumba 4 месяца назад +2

      - smart transfers
      - investing for infrastructures especailly refurbishment of bernabeu
      - solid management

  • @marcelanoryadi9110
    @marcelanoryadi9110 Год назад +8

    Barca will have to rely on :
    - academy players
    - free transfers players
    For the next 30 years

    • @thvf2381
      @thvf2381 Год назад

      considering how well lamine yamal, fermin lopez did in the past few matches, i'm sure they're fine.

    • @HariStramarko
      @HariStramarko Год назад +1

      @@thvf2381Lamine is one for the future but that Fermin guy nah he not barca level

    • @iampiyushsingh7544
      @iampiyushsingh7544 Год назад +1

      😂. 30 years lmao. We will be getting 100m signings by the year we get full 100K camp nou opened.

  • @leoc9154
    @leoc9154 Год назад +1

    It is amazed to see that one single stupid man can do so much damage.

  • @ashishshukla2157
    @ashishshukla2157 Год назад +1

    How do you talk about missing champions league money, but not the league winning money?

  • @ryanoutram7059
    @ryanoutram7059 Год назад

    Thirty million in INTEREST payments for THREE decades is absurd, good grief.

  • @David-yy9kl
    @David-yy9kl Год назад

    Joe's voice ❤!

  • @SilliusSodus
    @SilliusSodus Год назад +29

    Leverlona still mudded.

    • @BigSmoke2.20
      @BigSmoke2.20 Год назад +12

      Another 7 yo

    • @konstantinospetrakos2536
      @konstantinospetrakos2536 Год назад +10

      Cry dude who only watches PL witch is like the biggest farmers league ever since pep went there also Barcelona has problems like that cause la liga is like the worlds worst league and the president is corrupt barca did good not to accept the Cvc deal which is now deemed IILLEGAL!
      Have fun with your Saudi takeovers chad 😂🎉
      Visça Barca!

    • @A_r78
      @A_r78 Год назад +1

      @@konstantinospetrakos2536 visça Europa

    • @SilliusSodus
      @SilliusSodus Год назад +1

      @@BigSmoke2.20 I’m just being shameless. Calma.

    • @EliasRoy
      @EliasRoy Год назад

      @@A_r78 They literally play in Champions league next year clown.

  • @RichMitch
    @RichMitch Год назад

    Yes, absolutely

  • @timidstein888
    @timidstein888 Год назад +55

    It's so disappointing to see so many historic, great clubs struggling financially around Europe and then watch EPL teams placing bottom half of table be in better financial situation 😒😒😒

    • @kairo8155
      @kairo8155 Год назад +7

      That's because they have billionaire owners.

    • @MikeTHEBOSS
      @MikeTHEBOSS Год назад +58

      You should be disappointed with La Liga and especially Barcelona and Real Madrid. They could have had the most competitive league in the world but decided to take the lion share of tv revenue. EPL is just better run and most fairly distributed

    • @ronanfitzpatrick1261
      @ronanfitzpatrick1261 Год назад +9

      There's a few historic clubs in PL struggling financially too. I'm a Utd supporter, and while it's not the fans fault it is the fault of those running the club, piling bad decision upon bad decision thinking they were too big to fail - same with Everton etc, Utd just had more finances to squander than some of the rest.
      While PL clubs have better income so higher margins of error, a lot of European historical clubs current situation can be traced back to bad decisions pre-Covid.
      As for smaller clubs doing better, well, if they are well run and make good decisions then they deserve to do better. UEFA rankings put a ceiling on that growth but maybe some day they'll be the "historic clubs" and if they earn it, why not?

    • @kairo8155
      @kairo8155 Год назад +3

      @@MikeTHEBOSS better to have 2 Teams Who can complete against english Teams than None. without this, we would be like Serie A, a league Who is slowly but surely turning into a medium lv national one.

    • @MikeTHEBOSS
      @MikeTHEBOSS Год назад +16

      @@kairo8155 My point is that, if 10-15 years ago, La Liga was more fairly distributed, you would be the Premier League. Now you have no other option anymore than compete with just those 2 teams

  • @aidand.2053
    @aidand.2053 Год назад +8

    Most positive English made video about Barcelona in history

    • @bram1nabuurs471
      @bram1nabuurs471 Год назад +4

      Its reality…. It will be tough for us Barca supporters coming 10 years I am afraid…

  • @jg7088
    @jg7088 Год назад +2

    I thought you guys stopped making videos

  • @NgolaNalane
    @NgolaNalane Год назад +2

    Gavin had been registered

  • @ckfks
    @ckfks Год назад

    Can someone explain to me why the title is: "Are Barcelona still in trouble" and not "Is Barcelona still...

    • @rafellatiom8417
      @rafellatiom8417 Год назад +2

      Barcelona , the football club, is made up of many people. Using “is” would imply an individual object I.e city or person

  • @coalec9445
    @coalec9445 Год назад

    EBITDA is earnings before interest tax depreciation and amortization, so while -7mil may seem ok, add on the >30mil of interest expense and things aren’t going well. Plus operating profit is a better proxy than profit after tax as profit after tax includes those asset sales. The next several years will not have the same profit after tax I’m guessing

  • @jimbojimbo6873
    @jimbojimbo6873 Год назад +7

    Using 150m to sign the players they did was a terrible decision

  •  Год назад +4

    Not only did Barça had and sporting crisis but also a financial one. However the two are linked, it was important for Barça to keep being competitive in order to have an exit of its financial crisis, investing in players has resulted well, they won La Liga, and they could have gone to next stages of the champions league if they had had a full squad healthy and already settled like they did after the World Cup. For me also as a fan, I believe the club is in the right path, and even if I would hate to see it, the worst thing that could happen is become a private owned entity, but the club has so much potential value that hardly will disappear. I wouldn’t mind if City group ends up buying the club, at the end, the ones running the show are ex Barça directors and manager in the case of Man City.

    • @EliasRoy
      @EliasRoy Год назад

      They could become S.A.D. like Atletico Madrid in 1992.

    • @davit368
      @davit368 Год назад

      is it allowed la liga?
      also bro ofc you wouldnt mind the city group erasing all these problems in a minute😂😂😂

    • @EliasRoy
      @EliasRoy Год назад

      @@davit368 I don’t think so. CFG owns Girona so Barça can’t be owned due to increase in March fixing.