I’ve had mine for 4 years - and definitely don’t regret it, and the few “cons” he mentioned - well, are true! But they aren’t a big deal at all. While racing, I don’t even notice the fan. The mounting bolts…could be better, but I installed without issue! Overall, it has been solid and reliable and I’ve put over 2000 hours runtime, with no issue. I’ve had to tweak the settings (but doesn’t) and it works and feels great. I’ve used some friends’ non-DD rigs, and they don’t compare at all. They like my V2 much better also. And I’ve driven some other friends DD rigs. …good comparison, but they spent twice as much - and it isn’t worth twice as much (to me). Overall, Accuforce V2 Pro is an awesome kit…it will not disappoint!!
Great review, I agree with pretty much everything you said. Have my V2 for a couple of months and I think it's the best piece of kit I've bought in years. Coming from a G29 so not much experience, but I have no regrets. I was cross shopping a simucube pro and the money I've saved has let me buy some Heusinkveld Sprints (which arrived today!) instead of Fanatec V3s. I read so much about the software being complex, but with the pre-made profiles, I was up and running in a couple of hours and have done almost nothing since apart from tweaking the strength. I'm not one to talk something up just because I own it, just ask my buddies who'll tell you how much I whinge about stuff! Agree about the noisy fan - I think they changed the fan size, but it's still noisy. It's now 60x60x25mm, so I picked up a noctua from Amazon and now it's so quiet I keep forgetting to turn off the wheel. It was almost room temperature even with the fan unplugged. No regrets here!
Oh, I disagree about the wheel not making me faster - seems like it's true for most but i've taken huge chunks off almost all my laptimes. I'm a nurburgring addict, and a lotus 49 addict too - I've gone from games being games, where I just have to learn how to play them, to feeling like i'm really driving now - and finding it so much easier not to spin. This is a general comment about DD wheels rather than just the accuforce I guess, but if anyone loves driving games for the sake of driving and is wondering whether to spend the coin - do it, do it, do it!
your review was amazing. More than enough "working knowledge" of this product. For a long time I have wondered where Accuforce fits in the arena of direct drive systems. Now I know and can make a smart choice when its time to go DD which is pretty soon. Thanks again and PLEASE do MORE reviews you are a natural at it. For your next review may I suggest one. I heard Simagicdynamic.com is reaching out to RUclipsrs to review their gear without exclusive restrictions. check it out.
Fantastic video! Very informative, I appreciate you reviewing some basic info about DD hardware in general as well as the software, etc. There’s a clarity of thought and presentation that makes it obvious that you put a lot of effort into it. Super professional and helpful for anyone considering purchasing the product. I always thought that the Accuforce seemed like an excellent choice, especially considering all that is included for the money. The one big advantage that the Fanatec Podium wheels offer though is console compatibility if you’re into GT Sport or Forza, which could be a deal breaker for some people. I’d love to get a DD but I’d also need to get a new rig, which would add another $500-$1000 and make it just too costly for me at the present time. Maybe one day...
Great vid, comprehensive assessment of this DD wheel. Thanks. I think we've shared a similar path thru products, I started off, many years ago, with the TM F430 which despite it's limited rotation, was a great introduction to sim racing. It was very well put together and I was happy for many years. Then I moved to the the TX after trying a Fanatec CSL (great pedals) but it didn't feel right to me, the TX felt great like an all round improvement to the F430 (except the pedals) since I'd discovered load cell brakes when trying the CSL, and being impressed I upgraded my T3PA's to a load cell and was again happy for awhile. I think the only problem for me with the TX was a slight loss of fine detail in the FFB when things get hectic, perhaps the time when you need the most information, so again I found myself seeking more. I tried the CSW (my buddy had traded in his CSL) but again it didn't feel quite right despite impressing with it's superb build quality. I then tried the T500 but it felt a little sluggish compared to the TX and the I discovered the TS-PC Racer. Wow! It felt great, like a beefier, better quality TX, with enough power not to lose finer details in the FFB. Altho' I'm still very much enjoying the TS-PC Racer, I realize that at some point I'm going to want greater fidelity, I'm not too concerned about having loads of torque, tbh there are times when my TS-PC is more than enough, but it's about quality. Your video has been very helpful in helping me to understand the improvements that a direct drive wheelbase can bring and the Accuforce Pro V2 certainly offers an attractive package, without the confusion that some of the competition brings to the table.
I like it. I love the quick release and the maturity of the software. Right now if I could trade my DD2 for a new AF Pro 2 I would. That proper QR system is so important for a dd wheel.
What a thorough review. Thanks for putting the time into it, and being obviously genuine in your opinions. Your review is the last one (of probably a half dozen) I watched before ordering the V2 kit. Cheers!
Been with out a wheel to race with for a few months now since my g 27 died on me . Would be a dream to have a D.D. but that ain't going happen anytime soon but I should be getting the G 29 wheel in the next week or two . Won't be the dream wheel of my life but I'll enjoy driving them dream cars I'll never ever have . Always a good review from you Dan , no b.s. Hope your Christmas was good and Happy New Year to you and your Family , best wishes for the new year .
I got the V2 Your Way with the quick release on their Black Friday sale a month or so ago. It does have the loud fan but if you wear a headset you never hear it. I had to add an extra set of support bars for my GT Omega rig to make it sturdy enough to support the wheel base. With saving money getting the "your way" package it made it much more affordable to get a custom F1 rim from Speed Max Racing. It is a fantastic setup.
Thanks so much for this video! I am now ordering an Accuforce V2 after looking at every wheel for months. This is the sweet spot for my situation and cash to spend. I am getting into Sim Racing all at once after finding out about it about 3 months ago, and this will be a perfect entry (and long term) wheel for me, likely all i will ever need. I find your reviews to be the best on youtube about sim racing (like the muscle guy too :) ), you are down to earth with no BS and fun to listen to. :)
I subscribed based on this video alone. Well spoken, to the point, and easy to follow for someone new to the more advanced gear for this kind of sim. Well done.
Great review. Thanks. I m totally agree. I have it for more than 2 years and was fully satisfied. Of course I have change the power fan to a more quiet and know, it is perfect. The only concern could be the quick release system. An xero play or an Sim cube upgrade could be useful. It is also important to notice that this DD allows to plug a wheel without any Hub. It is just perfect to simulate vintage car! A lot of competitors force to plug a hub to start
This has probably been already said, but there is way more to the more expensive DD wheels than extra power. They are way smoother as well as being more powerful.
I own a SC2 pro bundled with the F1S wheel. I know it's twice the Accuforce price tag. I know. But since it's a hi-end piece of equipment I'm planning to use often and for a looong time, that amount of money was not a deal breaker: performance and quality over price, any time.
@@Leynad778 understandable, mate! I was a TM TX user, so it's a major upgrade. If I had owned an AF v2, I don't think I would have bought it though, since I'm not an expert simracer. Nonetheless, I think the SC2 pro is the best bang for your bucks atm, and I would buy it again over a DD2 or an Accuforce (and 2000 bucks available on my bank accourt, of course). 😘
@@Leynad778 now you're exaggerating... the proof is in the numbers. Better electronics and motors, quicker response times, stronger motors, upgraded filters... you name it. You can say AF is a better deal and that SC2/DD2 double price tag is way too much money. You can't say FFB is better. Many well versed testers said and wrote GD's SC2 was truly the best around. Now that Fanatec added some filters in their new software they seem to be on par too...
11:35 the differences between the stepper and servo motor only matters for industrial purposes like operating a conveyer belt or escalator. For simracing purposes, maybe there's a slight difference, but I don't think it matters at all. To summarise it, stepper motor is used for low speed applications. For servo motors, it's suitable for high speed uses.
Great review but one quick note. The cables provided by SimXperience have 6 wires in them and therefore use RJ12 connectors. RJ11 can only accept 4 wires although they are the same size. I’m not sure if all 6 wires are used by I had my cable rip out of the connector twice and was able to repair them using RJ12 connectors and a crimp tool. Another note: make sure to never set the wheel rotation to 1080 degrees by accident or the cable can fairly easily rip out of the connector if you crash hard.
FOV king, man. I not only share your same sentiment but I share a near exact experience. I had a g920 before this and this Accuforce is an absolute stud. Nobdoy really understands that this wheel is probably the sweetest of sweet spots due to the overall packaging. Its a one-stop-shop. What camera do you use. Its mint.
Ephraem Sudario I’d love to upgrade my wheel someday. It doesn’t even have to be this caliber, but after a couple years my Thrustmaster TX is a little lackluster. Anything else is just way too expensive.
@@yammmit I upgraded from a TX to the accuforce and haven't looked back. Loved my TX when I had it but once I tried the AF I realized that I had no idea what I had been missing. It's worlds better.
I love my Accuforce, one thing I would change is the start up behavior. It's far to violent and will whip wheel cables around, potentially ripping them from USB ports or scratching monitors. As a result I only power my base on with the wheel detached. Fanatec has a nice and slow startup and wish Simxperience would model that. Mine also has a fair amount of coil whine, so its far from quiet. I also have the insanely loud controller box fan. Overall I love my V2, but I do feel like I want more, and will be grabbing a SC2 in the future.
Hoping for your input on this... sim racing equipment decision... If I go 'expensive', my choice down to two: (1) SimXperience Accuforce Pro V2, with rim, & Fanatec CSL LC pedals, tot= @ $1,300.) or, (2) Fanatec ClubSport 2.5, CSL Elite wheel, and CSL Elite LC pedals tot=(@ $950.) Thanks for any input. -Brian
I've only had my Accuforce Pro v2 for a couple of weeks, and so far, I love it to bits, but I note you said that you have to run your game from Sim Commander, but you do not. You can set Sim Commander to "listen" for the start of your game's executable file, so as long as Sim Commander is running, it will detect the start of your game whether from Steam or not. Having said that, Sim Commander has predefined, modifiable "plugins" for every conceivable racing / driving game, so there is no need to do it this way, unless you want to run with the simple, device settings, and not run Sim Commander at all. I find that if I do not run Sim Commander, I have audio problems that seem to be related to Sim Vibe which I am not using. Still trying to get the bottom of that. 2 annoyances with the hardware though: 1. That RJ12 cable is annoying af, all the time. I am going to try routing it around the back of my motor like you have - thanks for that! 2. Some of the buttons on my button box are stubborn with some sims
I had a fanatec csw v2 and went to an accuforce v1 when it was $1700. I felt the huge jump in quality when I did. Curious as I am, I ordered an osw wheel from sim racing bay and for me the jump in quality was the same as from csw to accuforce. As for simucube 2 which I currently own, there is a difference but not as big as the other jumps. Of course I sell the wheels in order to try the newest ones but I think I’m settled now with the simucube v2. Just my experience.
good review, nice wheel that's barely available for sale... especially here in Africa as it's not there to even order online, not on ebay or other online sources... leaving us with the G29 plastic wheels
Do you use Simcommander cloud function, and if/how do you adjust settings on top of cloud settings? Simxperience seems to still be the only one with cloud settings, and everybody seems to love it, but it isnt talked about much.. Maybe a potentially new video topic?
I don't think it's fair saying the extra cost for more powerful dd wheels is justified only for more Nm. you have to take into account the software, the filters, the continuos support, the building materials and the reliability. I owned an OSW before and a SC2 Sport now, and believe me it's not just the Nm that matters in that.
It’s been 4 months now. What is your opinion of your SC2 sport, as I’m trying to decide between the SC2 sport or the AccuForce V2. Would value your input.
So, for those who own the wheel; what's the deal with the dangling cable? Why does the wheel support 4500 degrees of rotation if going that far clearly breaks the cable? How do you use it with more than 1080 degrees?
Bought an Accuforce V2 its totally great sim commander 4 is the best Had the money to buy other DD wheels but this wheel Has ticked all the boxes for me
I'm using the Fanatec DD1, it's almost in the same price range(just a couple hundred usd. more), it's got 20nm peak force and the best part is it's xbox compatibility. I never use more than 60-70 percent of it's power, that should be about the same level of power the accuforce is capable of. I'd love to compare those two bases one day
@@jonboy602 Yeah, just look for special deals, I've bought mine as a set with the F1 wheel for about 1400 usd. and that's a damn nice wheel! If you're on a tighter budget I'm pretty sure you could just buy the button box and use an actual racing car's rim to build your own wheel. Nevertheless, the pedals, handbrake and sequential shifter I'm using were quite expensive but worth it. Sim racing has come a long way to an acceptable price point, but it is still a damn expensive hobby 😄
@@CES-dh4ut I prefer the overall dampening and road-noise and engine-vibration effects with the AF. Also i tuned the AF to feel decent and similar with any sim while other bases more depend on the title. When the game-FFB doesn't feel that good, foundation plus effects usually deliver. Since i'm using SimVibe and a GS-5, i also prefer to deal with Sim Commander only.
Nice review. I'm struggling with where to go upgradewise from my G27. My choices are the CSL Elit, CSW, and AccuForce... The CSW at $800-850 (with rim) doesn't make a whole lot of sense when the AccuForce is just a bit more...
@@yellowflash111 Things kind of snowballed... I ended up ordering a DD1 with Formula V2. The two main reasons were that I hope that the DD1 is pretty much plug and play compared to the Accuforce and because I wanted access to the Fanatec wheel rims... I've got a SimLabs rig on the way as well. I will be doing reviews for my channel when everything shows up...
$999.99 for the "complete kit." No other money needed! Then mentions you need pedals and a rig. In all seriousness, this is a great video, I just think pedals should be included before you call something a complete set. A TV, game system, sim rig title, and even a cockpit are sort of expected extra costs.
I agree, I think electricity, internet, time, cables, usb hubs, water too as you sweat more and need frequent showers, should have been included too (?)
My Fanatec CSR Elite has maybe 5-7 N-M and I race @ 60% FF. DD has more detail, but there's no way the typical gamer would ever need more than 8 unless they are competitive racers! And a stiff full cockpit is absolutely required for a DD, not just those flimsy crap stands!
Typical miscoception about wheel niutes. Of course u won't use high force FFB if u wanna be competitive, it's all about huge dynamic range and fidelity not riping ur arms.
Ive been truing to find used equipment. I need everything as this will be my first sim set up. I can not stand paddle shifters. So I know in the end im gonna have to blow a shit load of money, BUT I think itll be worth it
Can't find a ts-pc racer under £500 anywhere.. I would legit be better off buying the accuforce pro v2 direct from simexperience for an extra £200 and get a direct drive wheel?! Only problem I would have is whether or not my cruddy playseat evo will be able to have a dd wheel mounted to it loool
The best review, hands down. Any idea what the USB and the 4 pin (old FD drive power plug style) connectors are for? I've had this wheel for about 6 months now. Love it except I've torn two of the RJ12 cables and now something is broken and I have no paddle shifting.
I'm giving serious thought into making this purchase myself in the next few weeks. Thanks for the review. Question. I have a GT Omega Pro Cockpit. Do you suppose that this is strong enough for a DD wheel? I'm sure I wont have it turned up too highly. I have a CSL elite now and I tend to keep the strength fairly low on this.
I don’t have any personal experience with either of the two products, the accuforce or your cockpit, but from what I’ve read I’m gonna have to say mounting the accuforce to your cockpit is gonna give you diminishing returns. I say this because the weight of the wheel itself is gonna probably cause some strain/flex, so it will likely limit the detail and strength of force feedback. Again I don’t have personal experience with the topic, but personally I wouldn’t invest in a direct drive before upgrading the cockpit. If you already have a seat you like on your omega you can get something like a sim labs gt1 for around $370 which should hold this fine.
This is the one I bought: www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B009NQMESS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 'Noctua NF-A6x25 FLX, Premium Quiet Fan, 3-Pin (60mm, Brown)' Fits perfectly and is inaudible. About 15mins to fit. I have seen recommendations for slimmer fans (10mm thick) on forums around the web, but this is the same size as the original fan in the V2 wheel I bought new about 5 months ago and slotted straight in. It has 3 speed settings but I can't detect any heat in the PSU with it on the slowest setting. 5 months in and I love this wheel.
You must not have watched the video lol. I didn't say it's the best direct drive wheel, I said it's the best deal. Surely there are stronger and better wheels as I said in the video. Try watching the video and see if you can't actually answer your own question.
How would you know it’s the best deal? What if the SC2 was 5 times better but only double the price? (It’s not). Although I agree with you AFV2 is the best deal, you really can’t claim that without trying the others. I can. Still love your content.
@Collin H - yes! If your pedals and shifter and handbrake have USB connector, then connect them directly to PC. So it wouldn’t matter which wheel you use.
I recommend you running more than 50 per cent strength on the accuforce control panel and then lower the ff in the game, because you are clipping sometimes i've seen in acc
Was really considering this wheel until I saw the dangling cable to the wheel. Incredibly old school for an expensive wheel. And why is the button box connector on the front near the wheel where it can get snagged instead of the back? Some unfortunate design decisions there.
Nope. The only DD wheel on the PS4 is the $1800 Fanatec Podium F1. To my knowledge it isnt optimized for GT Sport and the game reads it as a CSL Elite, but it works.
@@shadowblade2149 I wouldn't sweat it. PS5 and GT7 are pretty close to being released. If you are racing on console just wait a bit to see what the next gen does.
@@shadowblade2149 Also for right now, spending over $1000 for console racing doesnt make much sense. The force feedback and physics on the console titles just arent as good as the PC titles, so you really arent getting the value out of a DD wheel. If you are playing GT Sport, a TGT is probably actually better than a DD wheel. Again this may change next gen.
0:14 So you "partnered up" with SimXperience, then they send out the Accuforce. And you expect us to believe you aren't being paid to recomend this DD over the others?
He’s not being paid he’s being given a product, it’s a risk you run watching any sponsored video. He’s not wrong though, just look at the wheel’s price compared to its performance, it’s half the price of other dd and def not half the performance
I use the Thrustmaster RS T300 with F1 wheel for 3 rears, I drive faster than the guys using overpriced set ups, an expensive wheelbase is no needed to produce world record fastest lap times. I am proof of that.
Its consistency mate. Say wharever you want. I was really good with a g29. Top 20 in the world on dallara f3 but direct drive is a different experience and level.
@@AKR-Edits Yeah tried direct drive but can't feel any difference in my ability, does make me go any faster or feel the road better so it seems more bling than anything that makes it worth the extra cash. I race cars in the real world and none of them feel like direct drive so its not realistic to the real world. Also the power the Thrustmaster gives out is far more greater than you ever need, it will break your hand if you are not careful. But yes its all down to driver preference and how you set up your wheel.
Virtual Stig Motorsport TV No FFB at all is the fastest. Anything moving the wheel around in your hand hinders accuracy. Pedals matter more than anything.
@@FordEntertainmentGroupFEG I'm slower without FFB, use to have no FFB steering wheels back in the day before FFB was used in hardware, you need FFB to know what the car is doing, without it you are solely relying on just your sight which is one dimensional. Pedals don't bother me as much. Driver preference and individual set up is the key to going faster.
If you are trying to replicate steering forces in Indy Car, F2, F3.... you will need 20 - 30nm. These are all high downforce race cars without power steering.
You guys doing review videos suck. You forget the most important part. Where the hell do you buy one? Do they ship outside of the country they are made in. The basics
The cost of all this UNNECESSARY equipment is ridiculous. Most of the "elite" drivers use basic equipment, such as Thrustmaster and Logitech. Spend the money on your PC, not all this stuff made for rich people. These companies don't give all this stuff to the majority of us for free...unless you have a RUclips channel.
Erik Renner not to mention saying something is unnecessary is very subjective. Someone uninformed about pc gaming would say a 144hz monitor is unnecessary if it’s the same size, yet I can’t stand using anything below it and wouldn’t go back if you paid me to. Same with this, someone not really into it who hasn’t tried it wouldn’t see the value in the equipment and assume it’s unnecessary, yet someone who has it likely would say otherwise.
Why spend extra on a PC if its not enhancing your experience either? Everyone who has ever reviewed belt driven logitech and thrustmaster wheels has stated that there is a huge jump in quality when you upgrade to DD. The reason most drivers havent switched yet is because a lot of these top drivers are broke. Its not like sim racing is a viable career for a lot of people.
Huey Sharapova no ones saying you have to or should upgrade things that are out of your budget, I’m not a hardcore sim racer so I would probably never go dd. These reviewers are only saying that if it’s a possibility for you that it’s definitely a step up.
It's not about power, it's about the details(signals) transferred due to having higher torque. Great video. Keep it up.
i almost bought it but, the cable on the steering wheels kills it for me... unfortunately
I’ve had mine for 4 years - and definitely don’t regret it, and the few “cons” he mentioned - well, are true! But they aren’t a big deal at all. While racing, I don’t even notice the fan. The mounting bolts…could be better, but I installed without issue!
Overall, it has been solid and reliable and I’ve put over 2000 hours runtime, with no issue. I’ve had to tweak the settings (but doesn’t) and it works and feels great. I’ve used some friends’ non-DD rigs, and they don’t compare at all. They like my V2 much better also. And I’ve driven some other friends DD rigs. …good comparison, but they spent twice as much - and it isn’t worth twice as much (to me).
Overall, Accuforce V2 Pro is an awesome kit…it will not disappoint!!
Great review, I agree with pretty much everything you said. Have my V2 for a couple of months and I think it's the best piece of kit I've bought in years. Coming from a G29 so not much experience, but I have no regrets. I was cross shopping a simucube pro and the money I've saved has let me buy some Heusinkveld Sprints (which arrived today!) instead of Fanatec V3s. I read so much about the software being complex, but with the pre-made profiles, I was up and running in a couple of hours and have done almost nothing since apart from tweaking the strength. I'm not one to talk something up just because I own it, just ask my buddies who'll tell you how much I whinge about stuff! Agree about the noisy fan - I think they changed the fan size, but it's still noisy. It's now 60x60x25mm, so I picked up a noctua from Amazon and now it's so quiet I keep forgetting to turn off the wheel. It was almost room temperature even with the fan unplugged. No regrets here!
Oh, I disagree about the wheel not making me faster - seems like it's true for most but i've taken huge chunks off almost all my laptimes. I'm a nurburgring addict, and a lotus 49 addict too - I've gone from games being games, where I just have to learn how to play them, to feeling like i'm really driving now - and finding it so much easier not to spin. This is a general comment about DD wheels rather than just the accuforce I guess, but if anyone loves driving games for the sake of driving and is wondering whether to spend the coin - do it, do it, do it!
your review was amazing. More than enough "working knowledge" of this product. For a long time I have wondered where Accuforce fits in the arena of direct drive systems. Now I know and can make a smart choice when its time to go DD which is pretty soon. Thanks again and PLEASE do MORE reviews you are a natural at it. For your next review may I suggest one. I heard Simagicdynamic.com is reaching out to RUclipsrs to review their gear without exclusive restrictions. check it out.
Fantastic video! Very informative, I appreciate you reviewing some basic info about DD hardware in general as well as the software, etc. There’s a clarity of thought and presentation that makes it obvious that you put a lot of effort into it. Super professional and helpful for anyone considering purchasing the product.
I always thought that the Accuforce seemed like an excellent choice, especially considering all that is included for the money. The one big advantage that the Fanatec Podium wheels offer though is console compatibility if you’re into GT Sport or Forza, which could be a deal breaker for some people.
I’d love to get a DD but I’d also need to get a new rig, which would add another $500-$1000 and make it just too costly for me at the present time. Maybe one day...
Great vid, comprehensive assessment of this DD wheel. Thanks. I think we've shared a similar path thru products, I started off, many years ago, with the TM F430 which despite it's limited rotation, was a great introduction to sim racing. It was very well put together and I was happy for many years. Then I moved to the the TX after trying a Fanatec CSL (great pedals) but it didn't feel right to me, the TX felt great like an all round improvement to the F430 (except the pedals) since I'd discovered load cell brakes when trying the CSL, and being impressed I upgraded my T3PA's to a load cell and was again happy for awhile. I think the only problem for me with the TX was a slight loss of fine detail in the FFB when things get hectic, perhaps the time when you need the most information, so again I found myself seeking more. I tried the CSW (my buddy had traded in his CSL) but again it didn't feel quite right despite impressing with it's superb build quality. I then tried the T500 but it felt a little sluggish compared to the TX and the I discovered the TS-PC Racer. Wow! It felt great, like a beefier, better quality TX, with enough power not to lose finer details in the FFB. Altho' I'm still very much enjoying the TS-PC Racer, I realize that at some point I'm going to want greater fidelity, I'm not too concerned about having loads of torque, tbh there are times when my TS-PC is more than enough, but it's about quality. Your video has been very helpful in helping me to understand the improvements that a direct drive wheelbase can bring and the Accuforce Pro V2 certainly offers an attractive package, without the confusion that some of the competition brings to the table.
I like it. I love the quick release and the maturity of the software.
Right now if I could trade my DD2 for a new AF Pro 2 I would. That proper QR system is so important for a dd wheel.
Fanatec has QR
What a thorough review. Thanks for putting the time into it, and being obviously genuine in your opinions. Your review is the last one (of probably a half dozen) I watched before ordering the V2 kit. Cheers!
Been with out a wheel to race with for a few months now since my g 27 died on me . Would be a dream to have a D.D. but that ain't going happen anytime soon but I should be getting the G 29 wheel in the next week or two . Won't be the dream wheel of my life but I'll enjoy driving them dream cars I'll never ever have . Always a good review from you Dan , no b.s. Hope your Christmas was good and Happy New Year to you and your Family , best wishes for the new year .
I had a g29 but I got a ts-pc and I strongly recommend it if you haven't ordered the g29 yet as it's much less noisy and the ffb is muuuch better
I got the V2 Your Way with the quick release on their Black Friday sale a month or so ago. It does have the loud fan but if you wear a headset you never hear it. I had to add an extra set of support bars for my GT Omega rig to make it sturdy enough to support the wheel base. With saving money getting the "your way" package it made it much more affordable to get a custom F1 rim from Speed Max Racing. It is a fantastic setup.
How's it holding up? I have the same rig and I'm planning to do the same thing
Thanks so much for this video! I am now ordering an Accuforce V2 after looking at every wheel for months. This is the sweet spot for my situation and cash to spend. I am getting into Sim Racing all at once after finding out about it about 3 months ago, and this will be a perfect entry (and long term) wheel for me, likely all i will ever need.
I find your reviews to be the best on youtube about sim racing (like the muscle guy too :) ), you are down to earth with no BS and fun to listen to. :)
hey man. what kind of mounting rig and pedals do you plan to use with your Accuforce?
I subscribed based on this video alone. Well spoken, to the point, and easy to follow for someone new to the more advanced gear for this kind of sim. Well done.
Great review. Thanks. I m totally agree. I have it for more than 2 years and was fully satisfied. Of course I have change the power fan to a more quiet and know, it is perfect.
The only concern could be the quick release system. An xero play or an Sim cube upgrade could be useful.
It is also important to notice that this DD allows to plug a wheel without any Hub. It is just perfect to simulate vintage car! A lot of competitors force to plug a hub to start
This has probably been already said, but there is way more to the more expensive DD wheels than extra power. They are way smoother as well as being more powerful.
I subscribed because of how the accuforce review was presented. very cool.
I own a SC2 pro bundled with the F1S wheel. I know it's twice the Accuforce price tag. I know.
But since it's a hi-end piece of equipment I'm planning to use often and for a looong time, that amount of money was not a deal breaker: performance and quality over price, any time.
I tried the SC2 Pro and Sport, but keep my Accuforce.
@@Leynad778 understandable, mate! I was a TM TX user, so it's a major upgrade. If I had owned an AF v2, I don't think I would have bought it though, since I'm not an expert simracer.
Nonetheless, I think the SC2 pro is the best bang for your bucks atm, and I would buy it again over a DD2 or an Accuforce (and 2000 bucks available on my bank accourt, of course). 😘
Leynad Jee I tried a Ferrari and McLaren but kept my Ford
@@davidburgess176I would go for the Ford GT either and the AF has IMO much better FFB and in all sims, not just iRacing and AC.
@@Leynad778 now you're exaggerating... the proof is in the numbers. Better electronics and motors, quicker response times, stronger motors, upgraded filters... you name it.
You can say AF is a better deal and that SC2/DD2 double price tag is way too much money.
You can't say FFB is better. Many well versed testers said and wrote GD's SC2 was truly the best around. Now that Fanatec added some filters in their new software they seem to be on par too...
11:35 the differences between the stepper and servo motor only matters for industrial purposes like operating a conveyer belt or escalator. For simracing purposes, maybe there's a slight difference, but I don't think it matters at all.
To summarise it, stepper motor is used for low speed applications. For servo motors, it's suitable for high speed uses.
Great review but one quick note. The cables provided by SimXperience have 6 wires in them and therefore use RJ12 connectors. RJ11 can only accept 4 wires although they are the same size. I’m not sure if all 6 wires are used by I had my cable rip out of the connector twice and was able to repair them using RJ12 connectors and a crimp tool.
Another note: make sure to never set the wheel rotation to 1080 degrees by accident or the cable can fairly easily rip out of the connector if you crash hard.
Great great review! thank you very much. One question: Which monitor is that?! it's SOOOO SMOOOTH!
FOV king, man. I not only share your same sentiment but I share a near exact experience. I had a g920 before this and this Accuforce is an absolute stud.
Nobdoy really understands that this wheel is probably the sweetest of sweet spots due to the overall packaging. Its a one-stop-shop.
What camera do you use. Its mint.
Thanks dude! It's a Canon T7i with a 24 mm lens
Ephraem Sudario I’d love to upgrade my wheel someday. It doesn’t even have to be this caliber, but after a couple years my Thrustmaster TX is a little lackluster. Anything else is just way too expensive.
@@yammmit I upgraded from a TX to the accuforce and haven't looked back. Loved my TX when I had it but once I tried the AF I realized that I had no idea what I had been missing. It's worlds better.
Andrew Branson I imagine it does feel much better. If I had the money I’d for sure upgrade, even to some sort of Fanatec rig.
Ps ..these direct drive wheels are overrated..a T300rs does the job perfectly..is fine ,it all boils down to setting the ffb that u can enjoy..
I love my Accuforce, one thing I would change is the start up behavior. It's far to violent and will whip wheel cables around, potentially ripping them from USB ports or scratching monitors. As a result I only power my base on with the wheel detached. Fanatec has a nice and slow startup and wish Simxperience would model that. Mine also has a fair amount of coil whine, so its far from quiet. I also have the insanely loud controller box fan. Overall I love my V2, but I do feel like I want more, and will be grabbing a SC2 in the future.
High Quality electronics should not have ANY coil whine.
This is an immediate sign that corners have been cut.
That loud fan and stupid cable is a dealbreaker for me. I'll be lookiing at Simagic which is wireless for the wheel button box.
Wow you deserve more views a lot of info here very good, i have a short attention span and i watched the entire video
Can't wait to receive my first dd wheel AccuForce
Wishing you a Happy New Year! Dan, looking forward to some great Sim Racing content in 2020.
Hoping for your input on this... sim racing equipment decision...
If I go 'expensive', my choice down to two: (1) SimXperience Accuforce Pro V2, with rim, & Fanatec CSL LC pedals, tot= @ $1,300.) or, (2) Fanatec ClubSport 2.5, CSL Elite wheel, and CSL Elite LC pedals tot=(@ $950.) Thanks for any input. -Brian
Great review man, gotta agree with the fan and been thinking about swapping in a replacement here and there to lower the noise floor.
I've only had my Accuforce Pro v2 for a couple of weeks, and so far, I love it to bits, but I note you said that you have to run your game from Sim Commander, but you do not. You can set Sim Commander to "listen" for the start of your game's executable file, so as long as Sim Commander is running, it will detect the start of your game whether from Steam or not. Having said that, Sim Commander has predefined, modifiable "plugins" for every conceivable racing / driving game, so there is no need to do it this way, unless you want to run with the simple, device settings, and not run Sim Commander at all. I find that if I do not run Sim Commander, I have audio problems that seem to be related to Sim Vibe which I am not using. Still trying to get the bottom of that.
2 annoyances with the hardware though:
1. That RJ12 cable is annoying af, all the time. I am going to try routing it around the back of my motor like you have - thanks for that!
2. Some of the buttons on my button box are stubborn with some sims
I had a fanatec csw v2 and went to an accuforce v1 when it was $1700. I felt the huge jump in quality when I did. Curious as I am, I ordered an osw wheel from sim racing bay and for me the jump in quality was the same as from csw to accuforce. As for simucube 2 which I currently own, there is a difference but not as big as the other jumps. Of course I sell the wheels in order to try the newest ones but I think I’m settled now with the simucube v2. Just my experience.
good review, nice wheel that's barely available for sale... especially here in Africa as it's not there to even order online, not on ebay or other online sources... leaving us with the G29 plastic wheels
Do you use Simcommander cloud function, and if/how do you adjust settings on top of cloud settings? Simxperience seems to still be the only one with cloud settings, and everybody seems to love it, but it isnt talked about much.. Maybe a potentially new video topic?
I don't think it's fair saying the extra cost for more powerful dd wheels is justified only for more Nm.
you have to take into account the software, the filters, the continuos support, the building materials and the reliability.
I owned an OSW before and a SC2 Sport now, and believe me it's not just the Nm that matters in that.
So what are you saying exactly bud.nuff of the vague stuff. What did you pay for your sc2 all in wheel and everything?
It’s been 4 months now. What is your opinion of your SC2 sport, as I’m trying to decide between the SC2 sport or the AccuForce V2. Would value your input.
Great review very well done...
So, for those who own the wheel; what's the deal with the dangling cable? Why does the wheel support 4500 degrees of rotation if going that far clearly breaks the cable? How do you use it with more than 1080 degrees?
Bought an Accuforce V2 its totally great sim commander 4 is the best
Had the money to buy other DD wheels but this wheel
Has ticked all the boxes for me
I'm using the Fanatec DD1, it's almost in the same price range(just a couple hundred usd. more), it's got 20nm peak force and the best part is it's xbox compatibility. I never use more than 60-70 percent of it's power, that should be about the same level of power the accuforce is capable of. I'd love to compare those two bases one day
$300 more if you're just talking the base, more than that if you buy the accuforce as a full system (can buy with wheel and button box for 999).
@@jonboy602 Yeah, just look for special deals, I've bought mine as a set with the F1 wheel for about 1400 usd. and that's a damn nice wheel! If you're on a tighter budget I'm pretty sure you could just buy the button box and use an actual racing car's rim to build your own wheel. Nevertheless, the pedals, handbrake and sequential shifter I'm using were quite expensive but worth it. Sim racing has come a long way to an acceptable price point, but it is still a damn expensive hobby 😄
I tried the DD1 and Simucube 2 both twice and keep my Accuforce.
@@Leynad778 That's interesting! Can you explain what the accuforce does better and why you kept it?
@@CES-dh4ut I prefer the overall dampening and road-noise and engine-vibration effects with the AF. Also i tuned the AF to feel decent and similar with any sim while other bases more depend on the title. When the game-FFB doesn't feel that good, foundation plus effects usually deliver. Since i'm using SimVibe and a GS-5, i also prefer to deal with Sim Commander only.
Nice review. I'm struggling with where to go upgradewise from my G27. My choices are the CSL Elit, CSW, and AccuForce... The CSW at $800-850 (with rim) doesn't make a whole lot of sense when the AccuForce is just a bit more...
Hopefully you chose the accuforce v2
@@yellowflash111 Things kind of snowballed... I ended up ordering a DD1 with Formula V2. The two main reasons were that I hope that the DD1 is pretty much plug and play compared to the Accuforce and because I wanted access to the Fanatec wheel rims... I've got a SimLabs rig on the way as well. I will be doing reviews for my channel when everything shows up...
$999.99 for the "complete kit." No other money needed! Then mentions you need pedals and a rig. In all seriousness, this is a great video, I just think pedals should be included before you call something a complete set. A TV, game system, sim rig title, and even a cockpit are sort of expected extra costs.
I agree, I think electricity, internet, time, cables, usb hubs, water too as you sweat more and need frequent showers, should have been included too (?)
@@juanchix88 What kind of videogamer showers?
Hey Dan! Which wheel base mount are you using? Looks perfect for my application.
My Fanatec CSR Elite has maybe 5-7 N-M and I race @ 60% FF. DD has more detail, but there's no way the typical gamer would ever need more than 8 unless they are competitive racers! And a stiff full cockpit is absolutely required for a DD, not just those flimsy crap stands!
Typical miscoception about wheel niutes. Of course u won't use high force FFB if u wanna be competitive, it's all about huge dynamic range and fidelity not riping ur arms.
Ive been truing to find used equipment. I need everything as this will be my first sim set up. I can not stand paddle shifters. So I know in the end im gonna have to blow a shit load of money, BUT I think itll be worth it
Can't find a ts-pc racer under £500 anywhere.. I would legit be better off buying the accuforce pro v2 direct from simexperience for an extra £200 and get a direct drive wheel?! Only problem I would have is whether or not my cruddy playseat evo will be able to have a dd wheel mounted to it loool
I got one of these bad boys and it’s awesome
The best review, hands down. Any idea what the USB and the 4 pin (old FD drive power plug style) connectors are for? I've had this wheel for about 6 months now. Love it except I've torn two of the RJ12 cables and now something is broken and I have no paddle shifting.
It will be for pedals and shifter
got a new cable and it works fine. Simxperience hooked me up!
I'd change that Yahoo email address if I was you, Yahoo is not something I'd trust with any information.....
stellar job !!
I'm giving serious thought into making this purchase myself in the next few weeks. Thanks for the review. Question. I have a GT Omega Pro Cockpit. Do you suppose that this is strong enough for a DD wheel? I'm sure I wont have it turned up too highly. I have a CSL elite now and I tend to keep the strength fairly low on this.
I don’t have any personal experience with either of the two products, the accuforce or your cockpit, but from what I’ve read I’m gonna have to say mounting the accuforce to your cockpit is gonna give you diminishing returns. I say this because the weight of the wheel itself is gonna probably cause some strain/flex, so it will likely limit the detail and strength of force feedback. Again I don’t have personal experience with the topic, but personally I wouldn’t invest in a direct drive before upgrading the cockpit. If you already have a seat you like on your omega you can get something like a sim labs gt1 for around $370 which should hold this fine.
"I dont need DD" :P
you had me at 05:00
can i use my thrust master pedal. or what pedal could be used with this type of rig.. thanks for the vid. im a hair to purchasing this or the DD1
didn't show where you bought the wheel bracket?
Do these wheels have rumble also or is it only FFB?
Hey dan any reason you ditched the triples?
you didn't list the name of the chasis used here
Do you have a link to the replacement fan?
This is the one I bought: www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B009NQMESS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
'Noctua NF-A6x25 FLX, Premium Quiet Fan, 3-Pin (60mm, Brown)'
Fits perfectly and is inaudible. About 15mins to fit. I have seen recommendations for slimmer fans (10mm thick) on forums around the web, but this is the same size as the original fan in the V2 wheel I bought new about 5 months ago and slotted straight in. It has 3 speed settings but I can't detect any heat in the PSU with it on the slowest setting. 5 months in and I love this wheel.
What a shifters are compatible with this wheel if any ?
So you are saying you haven't tried any other DD wheel, but still can be confident that this one is best of them all?
You must not have watched the video lol. I didn't say it's the best direct drive wheel, I said it's the best deal. Surely there are stronger and better wheels as I said in the video. Try watching the video and see if you can't actually answer your own question.
How would you know it’s the best deal? What if the SC2 was 5 times better but only double the price? (It’s not). Although I agree with you AFV2 is the best deal, you really can’t claim that without trying the others. I can. Still love your content.
What kind of monitor is that
Hey, great vid, question, would the fanatec gear (shifter, handbrake, pedals) work with the accu force v2?
@Collin H - yes! If your pedals and shifter and handbrake have USB connector, then connect them directly to PC. So it wouldn’t matter which wheel you use.
I recommend you running more than 50 per cent strength on the accuforce control panel and then lower the ff in the game, because you are clipping sometimes i've seen in acc
Question, does this work on ps4 ? And how much? In Canada? Thx
Grand turismo is sim racing game or simulation game
No mate I'm afraid not .
chris dettanascar Gran turismo is a sim arcade racing game
getting the accuforce pro v2 kit for $1065 shipped with 2 days shipping
Howd it work out? What pedals and cockpit do you use?
joe dufey update?
Jose J. Ramos got its great but need a better rig
joe dufey what rig you have?
Jose J. Ramos its home made look for new one
I think that cord running to the wheel is a deal breaker.
You certainly can get used to it if you have it routed correctly but it is not the best solution for sure.
@@DanDiMaggio I was just sitting around watching a real race wondering how I didn't notice there is actually a cord on their wheel as well!
what is your rig
Was really considering this wheel until I saw the dangling cable to the wheel. Incredibly old school for an expensive wheel. And why is the button box connector on the front near the wheel where it can get snagged instead of the back? Some unfortunate design decisions there.
seems to me with all the upgrades needed . it makes more sense to go ahead and get the fanatic dd1 .
U looked disappointed with a few of ur corners at the begining! Saw u shaking ur head!
Yeah I was lol. Sometimes I take sims too seriously.
@@DanDiMaggio i know the feeling, keep up the content man, all the best to u and urs for the new year, and i hope ur channel continues to grow!
only 300 likes tho?
Compatible with ps4?
Nope. The only DD wheel on the PS4 is the $1800 Fanatec Podium F1. To my knowledge it isnt optimized for GT Sport and the game reads it as a CSL Elite, but it works.
@@hueysharapova7175 😔😔😔
@@shadowblade2149 I wouldn't sweat it. PS5 and GT7 are pretty close to being released. If you are racing on console just wait a bit to see what the next gen does.
@@hueysharapova7175 😃
@@shadowblade2149 Also for right now, spending over $1000 for console racing doesnt make much sense. The force feedback and physics on the console titles just arent as good as the PC titles, so you really arent getting the value out of a DD wheel. If you are playing GT Sport, a TGT is probably actually better than a DD wheel. Again this may change next gen.
0:14 So you "partnered up" with SimXperience, then they send out the Accuforce. And you expect us to believe you aren't being paid to recomend this DD over the others?
He’s not being paid he’s being given a product, it’s a risk you run watching any sponsored video. He’s not wrong though, just look at the wheel’s price compared to its performance, it’s half the price of other dd and def not half the performance
I use the Thrustmaster RS T300 with F1 wheel for 3 rears, I drive faster than the guys using overpriced set ups, an expensive wheelbase is no needed to produce world record fastest lap times. I am proof of that.
100 percent agree. Some of the fastest drivers still use Logitech g25/27s. It's just a bump in immersion. Not in personal performance.
Its consistency mate. Say wharever you want. I was really good with a g29. Top 20 in the world on dallara f3 but direct drive is a different experience and level.
@@AKR-Edits Yeah tried direct drive but can't feel any difference in my ability, does make me go any faster or feel the road better so it seems more bling than anything that makes it worth the extra cash. I race cars in the real world and none of them feel like direct drive so its not realistic to the real world. Also the power the Thrustmaster gives out is far more greater than you ever need, it will break your hand if you are not careful. But yes its all down to driver preference and how you set up your wheel.
Virtual Stig Motorsport TV No FFB at all is the fastest. Anything moving the wheel around in your hand hinders accuracy. Pedals matter more than anything.
@@FordEntertainmentGroupFEG I'm slower without FFB, use to have no FFB steering wheels back in the day before FFB was used in hardware, you need FFB to know what the car is doing, without it you are solely relying on just your sight which is one dimensional. Pedals don't bother me as much. Driver preference and individual set up is the key to going faster.
If you are trying to replicate steering forces in Indy Car, F2, F3.... you will need 20 - 30nm. These are all high downforce race cars without power steering.
Everything you just said is false. Try googling.
RiP owners club =(
You guys doing review videos suck. You forget the most important part. Where the hell do you buy one? Do they ship outside of the country they are made in. The basics
The cost of all this UNNECESSARY equipment is ridiculous. Most of the "elite" drivers use basic equipment, such as Thrustmaster and Logitech. Spend the money on your PC, not all this stuff made for rich people. These companies don't give all this stuff to the majority of us for free...unless you have a RUclips channel.
It's all about immersion. I'm sure someone using a controller can beat a lot of people, but it ain't fun to race on a controller.
Erik Renner not to mention saying something is unnecessary is very subjective. Someone uninformed about pc gaming would say a 144hz monitor is unnecessary if it’s the same size, yet I can’t stand using anything below it and wouldn’t go back if you paid me to. Same with this, someone not really into it who hasn’t tried it wouldn’t see the value in the equipment and assume it’s unnecessary, yet someone who has it likely would say otherwise.
Why spend extra on a PC if its not enhancing your experience either? Everyone who has ever reviewed belt driven logitech and thrustmaster wheels has stated that there is a huge jump in quality when you upgrade to DD. The reason most drivers havent switched yet is because a lot of these top drivers are broke. Its not like sim racing is a viable career for a lot of people.
Huey Sharapova no ones saying you have to or should upgrade things that are out of your budget, I’m not a hardcore sim racer so I would probably never go dd. These reviewers are only saying that if it’s a possibility for you that it’s definitely a step up.
@@bo55playz-gamingmore71 Right but if its definitely a step up, it is by definition not "unnecessary" like you said.