Hi Everyone, We hope you enjoyed our video! Which travel trailer perfect for 1/2 ton pickup trucks did you like best? Do you prefer a travel trailer, motorhome or 5th wheel? Please say hello by leaving a comment below and sharing your opinion about these RV floor plans.
Hmmm… 1,200lbs of hitch weight for a half-ton payload. My F150 has a respectable 1,765 lbs payload. However, you add the weights of a family of 2-5 people, pets, weight distribution hitch, camp gear, luggage and I’d be interested to see a half-ton not exceeding its payload with your recommendations of 1.000+ lbs of simply hitch weight.
What year is your Ford F-150? If it's older you are correct. If it's modern then it can handle a trailer this size if you have the correct tow package. Thanks for watching and commenting Mike
@@RVBlogger My F150 is a ‘17 Ecoboost. Regardless, I enjoy your channel and have been a long time subscriber. Payload is indisputably the essential limiting factor in a safe towing setup, that was the intention of my comment. Keep the great content coming. Cheers from Canada!
@@RVBlogger i agree with Paul and Erin. 1200 pound payload is a lot to ask for from a half ton. It may pull the trailer but the hitch weight is too heavy for a half ton.
. @christopherhamm1574 Maybe so, but as an example, the bestselling 2023 Ford F-150, with the optional 5.0-liter V8, is capable of hauling up to 3,310 pounds in the bed. Newer pickups have a higher payload than older models. As always, you must look at your truck specs because they are all different. Every truck owner's manual has dozens of pages of specs depending on the options included with each model. I think it's best not to generalize regarding truck payloads or tow capacities. Each pickup should be evaluated independently. Thanks for watching and for your comment! Mike
I think all those trailers are beyond What a half ton can tow safely in my humble opinion. Once you load up those trailers with everything you’re gonna take and your trucks loaded up with everything you need. I think you’re way beyond payload to be safe.
It's very important for vehicle owner's to know the tow capacity of their vehicle. And we always say never tow more than 80% of your vehicle's tow capacity. Many half ton trucks have a tow capacity of 11,000-14,000 lbs using weight distribution. So it is very doable, you just need to know your vehicle.
@@RVBlogger Very true but I am realizing that the carrying capacity of my Tundra wont support the Tongue weight of trailer the wife is looking at. Tow capacity is ok but carry capacity looks to be low :( Love the walk thrus!
Wow, what a fantastic rv tip on the kitchen bottom drawers.. never knew they were that thin.. my first rv is gonna be like a tank with all these great ideas 💡 and tips.. I definitely like keystone passport almost perfect
Glad you find the tips helpful. So happy to help! We try to point of features that could be a problem down the road. No RV is perfect and traveling 60mph definitely doesn't help. Thank you for your support!
Hope the absorption fridge continue to be an option. If you always have hook-ups, generator or solar package, no problem with 12v fridge. If you boondock or spend an occasional night at a Harvest host or Walmart , you NEED an absorption fridge!
@@RVBloggerThe advice I have received from others with experience towing campers with a 1/2T pickup is to keep it under 30'. Especially in the winds of Wyoming, Montana and Colorado.
Thanks Susan and Mike for the good walk throughs. Winnebago with an absorption fridge (snicker). Since Thor owns Jayco and Keystone the two are just cookie cutter, same same. Not a fan of either Winnebago nor Thor, but still watched. The Jayco's fridge, I'd be smashing my head into that overhang. Thanks again, keep up the great work.
I own a 20 White Hawk 26RK, weight ratings are pretty much the same as this new 26FK model. In general, this is not a half ton towable unit. Anytime the loaded trailer out weights the tow unit, you are asking for trouble. I ultimately decided to trade off my Ram 1500 w/ 5.7 hemi for a crew cab 3/4 ton truck w/ a diesel engine. Heavy tow rig with longer wheel base has made the trailer a comfortable drive, no white knuckle stress.
What about fifth wheel trailers that weigh 20000 pounds dry or travel trailers that weigh 10000 pounds dry, you have to have a pickup truck that weighs over 20000 pounds.
We don't really like a window at the end of the bed either. You're right, not many TT offer W/D prep. Those that do end to be 33' and longer. We have made 2 videos in that category if you are interested in checking those out. ruclips.net/video/MmMZrZGMl28/видео.html ruclips.net/video/t9XxXHIJXNo/видео.html Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Hi David, good eye! I didn't catch it but you are correct. It looks like there should be another piece of wood from the front of the dinette booth to the back. But the plywood seat is much thicker than most we see so maybe they left out the support for better access to the storage underneath because the plywood supports more weight. It felt fine when I sat on it. Thanks for watching and commenting! Mike
Love your reviews. I would like to see what road mode looks like. The first one gave that on the floor plan, but the others did not. Could you also let us know what is offered in ceiling fans. We have a 2015 Rockwood 2109s and it has max air fans in the living area and bathroom and we use both all of the time. Thanks again for great reviews.
You are welcome and thank you! By road mode do you mean with the slides in? We can definitely mention vent fan options in future RV tours. We love our max air fan too. Really helps with air circulation. Thank you for the suggestions. We appreciate your support!
@RVBlogger Yep, when the slide is in. We like to know how accessible the interior is. Sometimes lack of access can be a deal breaker for us. Our Rockwood 2109S is awesome.
All three are way too much weight for almost every half ton truck out there. I can easily over gross the max hitch weight on my half ton truck and I have the max tow package. I'm looking at trailers in this weight range and I've already determined that a 3/4 ton truck is what's needed to safely tow an 8000-9000 lb trailer.
I totally agree, all of these are over a half ton's GVWR. I have a 2500HD and never exceed 80% of the GVWR, it's my safety margin that has served me well in over 40 years of towing trailers. It's also different here in the Western US with mountains roads but still I wouldn't even attempt it with a half ton.
We checked all of the GVWRs of these trailers and if you have a modern 1/2 ton pickup truck they can handle the load. Older half tons can not... Thanks for watching and for your comment. Mike
We checked all of the GVWRs of these trailers and if you have a modern 1/2 ton pickup truck they can handle the load. Older half tons can not... Thanks for watching and for your comment. Mike
If a camper is 32' long - that's not 1/2 ton recommended. If you are in a windy area you'll be white knuckling it because your F-150/Chevy 1500/RAM 1500 is going to be pushed around with the camper.
What is the maximum length for a travel trailer being towed by a half ton truck? And what source are you using for your info? Thanks for watching! Mike
I'll agree with that statement, i pull a 33 foot with a tundra and it can get pushed around pretty good. BUT. The bigger pain? 6mpg with a 26 gallon tank.... I also have to watch my payload, big time. 1,500 lbs goes fast when you have 750lbs tongue weight. NOW. half ton with P rated tires? yeah, you're gonna be all over the place. Learned that years ago with VW busses. They actually handle like a truck with load range D on em, vs giant marshmallow with p rated tires.
I agree a length of no longer then 26 feet and the weight shouldn’t be no more then maybe 6,500 dry weight , this is just right for our Ford 150 eco boost with tow package. This is a good match. Because we tow 26 feet and 6, 220 dry weight.
The 2024 highland ridge open range BH26 is perfect for my half ton hemi.. I dont even need a redistribution hitch or airbags... Has anyone ever noticed when cars pass you on the highway going really fast, the trailer gets pulled over like the other vehicle is sucking it over. The faster they pass and the bigger they are, the worse it is.
We notice this phenomenon in our Class A RV and we have seen plenty of trailers sway after a big truck passes them. This is a perfect question to ask in our Private Facebook Group called RV Camping for Newbies. I bet if you ask the question to the group you will get some great responses. And if you supply your email address when you join you will also get our informative Newsletters every week and a FREE subscription to RV Today Magazine so you will be the most informed RVer on the planet! ( Just kidding but you can learn a bunch and meet some cool people!) Here's the link: facebook.com/groups/RVCampingforNewbies Thanks for watching and commenting! Mike and Susan
Yea i mean if its have the max tow package it can tow 9000-10000 lbs on current gen trucks but majority of them are under that due to their most common gear ratios
Can you tell me why you think they are all too big? Not sure what you mean by that... Thanks for watching and hope you have a great Labor Day weekend! Mike
We include prices at the beginning of each review on the pages that show the exterior photo. I just don't read them out loud because they change all the time. But they are there on every RV...
We haven't discussed this topic in the past but we are trying to incorporate some kind of information to help. We tour RVs at dealerships and RV shows and are unable to close the slides to show viewers. But we understand that value. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
@@nea273No but there are limits. Good luck towing a travel trailer with a hitch weight of 1200lbs with a 1/2 ton. Even if you can get it to come in underweight, it’s not smart.
All those companies do a good job building those rigs, and I like it when the bathroom is next to the bedroom…. But when a big company leaves small things out like supports for cabinet doors and cheaply made kitchen drawers. Then to me they’re dropping the ball and should build these things correctly.
Completely agree! Why inconvenience the owner when it comes to features like cabinet doors and drawer bottoms...just to save a few dollars. Disappointing! Thanks Robert for your support!
We checked all of the GVWRs of these trailers and if you have a modern 1/2 ton pickup truck they can handle the load. Older half tons can not... Thanks for watching and for your comment. Mike
We checked all of the GVWRs of these trailers and if you have a modern 1/2 ton pickup truck they can handle the load. Older half tons can not... Thanks for watching and for your comment. Mike
@@RVBlogger You don't have a clue what you are talking about. You think that GVW is the only thing that comes into play? Wow. Good way to get yourself sued by giving advice like this on the internet when somebody gets killed.
@RVBlogger you're never going to win this pissing contest with these super truckers. They obviously own super duty trucks and look down on the ½ ton folks even though they started with a ½ton. They are just better than that now lol.
Yup I won’t buy any trailer campers or campers in general. The prices in the USA are out of site and the build quality is very bad. If you do get a camper and have a problem under warranty the dealer won’t fix it until when ever they can get you scheduled which is never. If you’re lucky enough to get it in they keep it for ever or they just make it worse than when you brought it in. This industry just sucks.
@@boudica5883 I totally agree. I have an off road Rockwood esp and have had to redo all of the wiring and plumbing. I had to just replaced every screw and rivet. I also had to reseal everything right out of the gate. All I want is to get a slide in for the pickup. Nothing big as it’s just me using it.
You're not wrong. I don't think the RV industry was ready for the sudden huge demand in the RV lifestyle. It's time for them to improve construction and service and their own damage control. Let's hope that begins to happen in 2024. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting!
It depends on the dealership that you buy it from. Camping World and General RV are notorious for being slow. Bish's will order the part and scavenge from a RV on their lot if they can't get a ETA on the part. The Manufacturer that you pick makes a difference in build quality. For example - you are having a earthquake driving down the road. If you get something with a off-road suspension there's less shaking so things are less likely to come apart. Ember is example of using a better suspension for travel trailers.
Absolutely too big for a half ton. The hitch weight alone will exceed the max hitch weight for almost every half ton truck out there. The hitch weight of a loaded 8800 lb GVWR trailer will be over 1200 lbs. That exceeds even the max hitch weight of my truck with the max tow package. You'll be way over gross with the average half ton truck. Definitely tow these with a 3/4 ton truck.
We checked all of the GVWRs of these trailers and if you have a modern 1/2 ton pickup truck they can handle the load. Older half tons can not... Thanks for watching and for your comment. Mike
@@RVBlogger Mike, do you even tow a trailer? I thought you have a motor home. You are giving bad advice to many people out there with 1/2 tons. All of these trailers will exceed most 1/2 tons payload capacity…. Even the modern 1/2 tons! I think you should change your title and do some more research on safe towing with a 1/2 ton truck. The GVWR tow rating of these trucks is only part of the equation.
We checked all of the GVWRs and hitch weight of these trailers and if you have a modern 1/2 ton pickup truck they can handle the load. Older half tons can not... Thanks for watching and for your comment. Mike
You are incorrect! GVWR means nothing it is all about payload. Hitch weight is dry at the factory, most are quite a bit above that when loaded. Then passengers and cargo must be added. Few if any half tons are above 1800 pounds payload. Bad advice!!! My recently purchased 24' mini light hitch weight is listed at 634#, weighed after propane, battery and some gear in storage, no water in the tank it was 840#, the hitch apparatus alone is almost 100#. Our Silverado payload is 1654# so we are right at the top with no reserve. We take delivery of our 3/4 pickup this week.@@RVBlogger
The tongue weight alone takes up most of the payload capacity of a 1/2 ton pickup, so it is not a good idea to tow any of these trailers you suggest. 2019 RAM 5.7 Hemi … as equipped, payload is 1480 and with a trailer tongue weight of nearly 800 pounds I am pushing the limit, but still OK as long as I am careful how I load the truck. Trailer is 6k dry, so I figure around 7k loaded. Again my 1/2 ton truck, as equipped states a tow capacity of 8750, still OK, but not as much leeway as I would prefer. Also, a bit shaky in the wind, my guess is a heavier truck would do better.
I’m not in favor of the window being at the headboard. For me in gives a sense of feeling not safe and exposed. I would prefer the sleeping area to be more secure. At first glance, the dinette table looked outta place, but with the leaf and game storage hidden within the table, it made me warm up to the idea of it. Jayco white Hawk, bathroom felt more residential. The shower size is larger folks friendly
Not a big fan of windows at the head of the bed either. We had one in our first motorhome and the morning sun would cause us to wake up hot and sweaty sometimes🤣. Had to install reflective material to help minimize that. Shower/bathroom size is so important! I don't want to spend all that money and not have it user friendly. Thanks MadeUpLikeADoll!
It's not just poor craftsmanship. It's also about keeping the weight down. But they doo need to do a better job with almost all drawer bottoms we see in all the RVs we tour. Alliance RV does a great job with their drawer bottoms.
You are right about the kitchen space in the Keystone. And I hate when the TV is too high too. Literally a pain in the neck! 🤣 Thank you Britt for your support!
Great job you both. I really enjoy measering the bed, shower heigth,,and shower heigth as I am almost 6'7". Most of these campers I could not stay in. Being this tall sort of sucks some times. LOL
Thank you so much for the kind words! So glad you like the measuring up. I understand how challenging it must be in an RV when you're 6'7". Did you catch our one video we made with TTs with taller ceiling height? ruclips.net/video/z6iSJmKIDxA/видео.html Thank you for all your support!
I do not want windows in the bedroom, especially where my head is. I dont want to lean against that reading a book before bed, plus, creepy, less secure, etc...
All great point! We love the leg-less dinettes for that reason. I think they run out of good locations for TV placement and stick them anywhere they can 🤣. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting!
I drive a RAM 1500 with max towing capability and the camper we pull is a 22ft Palomino Puma Ultra Lite that comes in at 3100 dry weight. On a good hill or a good crosswind, it gets questionable in my opinion. But I am also not one to stretch the limit much when it comes to my families safety. I would not pull 8900 with a 1500 unless absolutely had to.
Might depend on the year of the truck too. Older trucks can't hal as much as the newer models. Thanks for your comment though. We do appreciate you sharing your experience.
Love y'all's videos, great job! Here's a video idea I think y'all should do: "3 travel trailers with washer and dryer near 30 feet", and here they are: Rockwood signature 8262 RBS Palomino puma 26FKDS Venture Sport trek St271VMB Thanks again!
Love that idea. Now I just have to find those floor plans. We'll be on the lookout at the Tampa RV show. Thanks for the suggestion and the help finding floor plans!
Great video! Also look at the Sunset Trail 272bh. Sleeps up to 10 with a tall ceiling, just 722lbs hitch weight and 5600lbs dry. Well within half-ton pickup range.
Sounds like an awesome travel trailer. We'll have to be on the lookout for that floor plan. Thanks for the suggestion. And thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting.
I like the jayco sky light and I like the Keystone for storage. They are all very nice and spacious. Thank you Mike and Susan., Hope you have a great week and see you next week.
Thank you Sherri! A skylight is a nice feature to have in an RV. Provides so much more natural light. Next weekend we'll be getting ready for the Tampa Show🎉. Always exciting. Hope you have a great weekend too! Thank you for your support!
Hi Everyone,
We hope you enjoyed our video! Which travel trailer perfect for 1/2 ton pickup trucks did you like best? Do you prefer a travel trailer, motorhome or 5th wheel? Please say hello by leaving a comment below and sharing your opinion about these RV floor plans.
I liked that part where you don’t actually tow it with a 1/2 and pretend like they have 3000 lbs payload
So grateful for your videos and your wife has such a steady hand so no wiggles in watching your videos like many others!
@@lynnstover5689 Thank you so much! 🤗 (Susan)
Hmmm… 1,200lbs of hitch weight for a half-ton payload. My F150 has a respectable 1,765 lbs payload. However, you add the weights of a family of 2-5 people, pets, weight distribution hitch, camp gear, luggage and I’d be interested to see a half-ton not exceeding its payload with your recommendations of 1.000+ lbs of simply hitch weight.
Yes, they should say a half ton can get this home, half-ton’s can but should not tow this. 👍🏽
What year is your Ford F-150? If it's older you are correct. If it's modern then it can handle a trailer this size if you have the correct tow package.
Thanks for watching and commenting
Mike
@@RVBlogger My F150 is a ‘17 Ecoboost. Regardless, I enjoy your channel and have been a long time subscriber.
Payload is indisputably the essential limiting factor in a safe towing setup, that was the intention of my comment.
Keep the great content coming. Cheers from Canada!
@@RVBlogger i agree with Paul and Erin. 1200 pound payload is a lot to ask for from a half ton. It may pull the trailer but the hitch weight is too heavy for a half ton.
. @christopherhamm1574 Maybe so, but as an example, the bestselling 2023 Ford F-150, with the optional 5.0-liter V8, is capable of hauling up to 3,310 pounds in the bed. Newer pickups have a higher payload than older models. As always, you must look at your truck specs because they are all different. Every truck owner's manual has dozens of pages of specs depending on the options included with each model. I think it's best not to generalize regarding truck payloads or tow capacities. Each pickup should be evaluated independently.
Thanks for watching and for your comment!
Mike
I think all those trailers are beyond What a half ton can tow safely in my humble opinion. Once you load up those trailers with everything you’re gonna take and your trucks loaded up with everything you need. I think you’re way beyond payload to be safe.
It's very important for vehicle owner's to know the tow capacity of their vehicle. And we always say never tow more than 80% of your vehicle's tow capacity. Many half ton trucks have a tow capacity of 11,000-14,000 lbs using weight distribution. So it is very doable, you just need to know your vehicle.
@@RVBlogger Very true but I am realizing that the carrying capacity of my Tundra wont support the Tongue weight of trailer the wife is looking at. Tow capacity is ok but carry capacity looks to be low :( Love the walk thrus!
@@EVOellisz thank you! We appreciate your support!
Wow, what a fantastic rv tip on the kitchen bottom drawers.. never knew they were that thin.. my first rv is gonna be like a tank with all these great ideas 💡 and tips.. I definitely like keystone passport almost perfect
Glad you find the tips helpful. So happy to help! We try to point of features that could be a problem down the road. No RV is perfect and traveling 60mph definitely doesn't help. Thank you for your support!
The bed from the Keystone Passport fitted into the Jayco White Hawk = the perfect travel trailer.
YES! Don't you wish we could just plug and play RV features? Thank you, we appreciate you watching our RV tour video and commenting!
Love the show sending love from Greenville south Carolina 😊
Hello (currently) from Pasadena MD! Love your state of SC. Thank you so much! We appreciate your support!
I was just finishing your 3 Class C diesel video when the notification for this one popped up. Excellent timing!
Yes that is! 🤣 Thank you so much for your support!
All 3 of those are awesome and the prices aren't too bad either ! Might need to spend some time in each. Thanks y'all !
You're welcome Darryl! So glad you enjoyed these travel trailers. Thank you for your support!
Always enjoy your videos.
Thank you so much Barbara. We appreciate your support!
Hope the absorption fridge continue to be an option. If you always have hook-ups, generator or solar package, no problem with 12v fridge. If you boondock or spend an occasional night at a Harvest host or Walmart , you NEED an absorption fridge!
We agree that the absorption fridge is ideal for boondocking. But we are seeing less of them. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting.
These all seem too long to tow with a 1/2 ton pickup.
What's the maximum length travel trailer you can tow with a modern half ton pickup truck and where did you get your info?
Thanks for watching!
Mike
@@RVBloggerThe advice I have received from others with experience towing campers with a 1/2T pickup is to keep it under 30'. Especially in the winds of Wyoming, Montana and Colorado.
Really like the Winnebago
Agree! Beautiful floor plan in that Minnie 2832FK. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting.
I have a small tent trailer but just to be safe a satisfy the weight police i tow it with a kenworth w900.
LMAO!!!!! You just made my day...
Thanks Susan and Mike for the good walk throughs. Winnebago with an absorption fridge (snicker). Since Thor owns Jayco and Keystone the two are just cookie cutter, same same. Not a fan of either Winnebago nor Thor, but still watched. The Jayco's fridge, I'd be smashing my head into that overhang. Thanks again, keep up the great work.
I think the question is what DOESN'T Thor own! 🤦♀️😡. Thank you for watching Tuvia. We appreciate your support!!!
Great presentation!
Thank you very much! We appreciate your support!
I own a 20 White Hawk 26RK, weight ratings are pretty much the same as this new 26FK model. In general, this is not a half ton towable unit. Anytime the loaded trailer out weights the tow unit, you are asking for trouble. I ultimately decided to trade off my Ram 1500 w/ 5.7 hemi for a crew cab 3/4 ton truck w/ a diesel engine. Heavy tow rig with longer wheel base has made the trailer a comfortable drive, no white knuckle stress.
Thanks for sharing your setup and experience Ken. Much appreciated.
Mike
What about fifth wheel trailers that weigh 20000 pounds dry or travel trailers that weigh 10000 pounds dry, you have to have a pickup truck that weighs over 20000 pounds.
Nice Jayco.
The Whitehawk 26FK is a great floor plan! Love the skylight in the kitchen. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting.
I really don't like the window at the head of the bed, and would be great to have w/d option, not enough trailer offer the w/d
We don't really like a window at the end of the bed either. You're right, not many TT offer W/D prep. Those that do end to be 33' and longer. We have made 2 videos in that category if you are interested in checking those out. ruclips.net/video/MmMZrZGMl28/видео.html ruclips.net/video/t9XxXHIJXNo/видео.html Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Did anyone else notice when he exposed the dinette frame inside on the winnebago? It's not offering any support to the seat above
Hi David, good eye! I didn't catch it but you are correct. It looks like there should be another piece of wood from the front of the dinette booth to the back. But the plywood seat is much thicker than most we see so maybe they left out the support for better access to the storage underneath because the plywood supports more weight. It felt fine when I sat on it.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Mike
Love your reviews. I would like to see what road mode looks like. The first one gave that on the floor plan, but the others did not. Could you also let us know what is offered in ceiling fans. We have a 2015 Rockwood 2109s and it has max air fans in the living area and bathroom and we use both all of the time. Thanks again for great reviews.
You are welcome and thank you! By road mode do you mean with the slides in? We can definitely mention vent fan options in future RV tours. We love our max air fan too. Really helps with air circulation. Thank you for the suggestions. We appreciate your support!
@RVBlogger Yep, when the slide is in. We like to know how accessible the interior is. Sometimes lack of access can be a deal breaker for us. Our Rockwood 2109S is awesome.
Gotcha! We are unable to bring the slides in but we can definitely discuss usable space that can help moving forward. Thanks!@@micheleulrich-hb2ok
All three are way too much weight for almost every half ton truck out there. I can easily over gross the max hitch weight on my half ton truck and I have the max tow package. I'm looking at trailers in this weight range and I've already determined that a 3/4 ton truck is what's needed to safely tow an 8000-9000 lb trailer.
I totally agree, all of these are over a half ton's GVWR. I have a 2500HD and never exceed 80% of the GVWR, it's my safety margin that has served me well in over 40 years of towing trailers. It's also different here in the Western US with mountains roads but still I wouldn't even attempt it with a half ton.
We checked all of the GVWRs of these trailers and if you have a modern 1/2 ton pickup truck they can handle the load. Older half tons can not...
Thanks for watching and for your comment.
Mike
We checked all of the GVWRs of these trailers and if you have a modern 1/2 ton pickup truck they can handle the load. Older half tons can not...
Thanks for watching and for your comment.
Mike
If a camper is 32' long - that's not 1/2 ton recommended. If you are in a windy area you'll be white knuckling it because your F-150/Chevy 1500/RAM 1500 is going to be pushed around with the camper.
What is the maximum length for a travel trailer being towed by a half ton truck? And what source are you using for your info?
Thanks for watching!
Mike
I'll agree with that statement, i pull a 33 foot with a tundra and it can get pushed around pretty good. BUT. The bigger pain? 6mpg with a 26 gallon tank....
I also have to watch my payload, big time. 1,500 lbs goes fast when you have 750lbs tongue weight.
NOW. half ton with P rated tires? yeah, you're gonna be all over the place. Learned that years ago with VW busses. They actually handle like a truck with load range D on em, vs giant marshmallow with p rated tires.
I agree a length of no longer then 26 feet and the weight shouldn’t be no more then maybe 6,500 dry weight , this is just right for our Ford 150 eco boost with tow package. This is a good match. Because we tow 26 feet and 6, 220 dry weight.
Why are propane fridges still being used?!?
They are cheaper than 12v fridges...
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Mike
Plus easier when dispersed camping.
Seriously! Loved this unit until I saw that absorption fridge. What the heck Winnebago???
We do believe they are transitioning to 12v fridges in the near future.@@danadee4354
The 2024 highland ridge open range BH26 is perfect for my half ton hemi.. I dont even need a redistribution hitch or airbags... Has anyone ever noticed when cars pass you on the highway going really fast, the trailer gets pulled over like the other vehicle is sucking it over. The faster they pass and the bigger they are, the worse it is.
We notice this phenomenon in our Class A RV and we have seen plenty of trailers sway after a big truck passes them.
This is a perfect question to ask in our Private Facebook Group called RV Camping for Newbies. I bet if you ask the question to the group you will get some great responses. And if you supply your email address when you join you will also get our informative Newsletters every week and a FREE subscription to RV Today Magazine so you will be the most informed RVer on the planet! ( Just kidding but you can learn a bunch and meet some cool people!) Here's the link: facebook.com/groups/RVCampingforNewbies
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Mike and Susan
Sweet!
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Yea i mean if its have the max tow package it can tow 9000-10000 lbs on current gen trucks but majority of them are under that due to their most common gear ratios
Correct but non the less modern pickups can handle the weight
All too big
Can you tell me why you think they are all too big? Not sure what you mean by that...
Thanks for watching and hope you have a great Labor Day weekend!
Mike
It looks like the fuse and breaker box would be blocked when the slide is in.
That is possible. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
Prices would be nice
We include prices at the beginning of each review on the pages that show the exterior photo. I just don't read them out loud because they change all the time. But they are there on every RV...
Whats the closest GMC equivalent? The AT4?
There is a whole line up of AT4X GMC vehicles. Which one are you asking about?
Dealers never show what it looks like/what you can access when slides are in😡
We haven't discussed this topic in the past but we are trying to incorporate some kind of information to help. We tour RVs at dealerships and RV shows and are unable to close the slides to show viewers. But we understand that value. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting. We appreciate your support!
250 nothing less
Ok. Thank you, we appreciate you watching our RV tour video and commenting!
You don't need a 250 to tow a camper.
@@nea273No but there are limits. Good luck towing a travel trailer with a hitch weight of 1200lbs with a 1/2 ton.
Even if you can get it to come in underweight, it’s not smart.
Don't like window at t😅he head of the bed.
Not a big fan of that either, though it does let in great lighting. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting!
All those companies do a good job building those rigs, and I like it when the bathroom is next to the bedroom….
But when a big company leaves small things out like supports for cabinet doors and cheaply made kitchen drawers.
Then to me they’re dropping the ball and should build these things correctly.
I know! For the price of these you’d expect better!
Completely agree! Why inconvenience the owner when it comes to features like cabinet doors and drawer bottoms...just to save a few dollars. Disappointing! Thanks Robert for your support!
Ummm a little too large for a half ton truck, what the salesman tells you and what’s actually safe are two different things
Yeah, only way they're half ton towable is if they're empty!
We checked all of the GVWRs of these trailers and if you have a modern 1/2 ton pickup truck they can handle the load. Older half tons can not...
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We checked all of the GVWRs of these trailers and if you have a modern 1/2 ton pickup truck they can handle the load. Older half tons can not...
Thanks for watching and for your comment.
Mike
@@RVBlogger You don't have a clue what you are talking about. You think that GVW is the only thing that comes into play? Wow. Good way to get yourself sued by giving advice like this on the internet when somebody gets killed.
@RVBlogger you're never going to win this pissing contest with these super truckers. They obviously own super duty trucks and look down on the ½ ton folks even though they started with a ½ton. They are just better than that now lol.
Yup I won’t buy any trailer campers or campers in general. The prices in the USA are out of site and the build quality is very bad. If you do get a camper and have a problem under warranty the dealer won’t fix it until when ever they can get you scheduled which is never. If you’re lucky enough to get it in they keep it for ever or they just make it worse than when you brought it in. This industry just sucks.
I sort of agree. I will admit that a person needs to be exceptionally handy in their own right to make most repairs themselves.
@@boudica5883 I totally agree. I have an off road Rockwood esp and have had to redo all of the wiring and plumbing. I had to just replaced every screw and rivet. I also had to reseal everything right out of the gate. All I want is to get a slide in for the pickup. Nothing big as it’s just me using it.
You're not wrong. I don't think the RV industry was ready for the sudden huge demand in the RV lifestyle. It's time for them to improve construction and service and their own damage control. Let's hope that begins to happen in 2024. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting!
It depends on the dealership that you buy it from. Camping World and General RV are notorious for being slow. Bish's will order the part and scavenge from a RV on their lot if they can't get a ETA on the part. The Manufacturer that you pick makes a difference in build quality. For example - you are having a earthquake driving down the road. If you get something with a off-road suspension there's less shaking so things are less likely to come apart. Ember is example of using a better suspension for travel trailers.
I think all three of these are too big for a 1/2 ton truck….more appropriate for at least 3/4 ton trucks.
Absolutely too big for a half ton. The hitch weight alone will exceed the max hitch weight for almost every half ton truck out there. The hitch weight of a loaded 8800 lb GVWR trailer will be over 1200 lbs. That exceeds even the max hitch weight of my truck with the max tow package. You'll be way over gross with the average half ton truck. Definitely tow these with a 3/4 ton truck.
We checked all of the GVWRs of these trailers and if you have a modern 1/2 ton pickup truck they can handle the load. Older half tons can not...
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Mike
@@RVBlogger Mike, do you even tow a trailer? I thought you have a motor home. You are giving bad advice to many people out there with 1/2 tons. All of these trailers will exceed most 1/2 tons payload capacity…. Even the modern 1/2 tons! I think you should change your title and do some more research on safe towing with a 1/2 ton truck. The GVWR tow rating of these trucks is only part of the equation.
Hitch weight on everything but the Jayco is wayy to much for most 1/2 tons to handle safely once you factor in cargo, gear and people.
We checked all of the GVWRs and hitch weight of these trailers and if you have a modern 1/2 ton pickup truck they can handle the load. Older half tons can not...
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You are incorrect! GVWR means nothing it is all about payload. Hitch weight is dry at the factory, most are quite a bit above that when loaded. Then passengers and cargo must be added. Few if any half tons are above 1800 pounds payload. Bad advice!!! My recently purchased 24' mini light hitch weight is listed at 634#, weighed after propane, battery and some gear in storage, no water in the tank it was 840#, the hitch apparatus alone is almost 100#. Our Silverado payload is 1654# so we are right at the top with no reserve. We take delivery of our 3/4 pickup this week.@@RVBlogger
@thomasbowdler8856 our 2018 f150 has a pay load 8n excess of 3000 lbs.
The tongue weight alone takes up most of the payload capacity of a 1/2 ton pickup, so it is not a good idea to tow any of these trailers you suggest. 2019 RAM 5.7 Hemi … as equipped, payload is 1480 and with a trailer tongue weight of nearly 800 pounds I am pushing the limit, but still OK as long as I am careful how I load the truck. Trailer is 6k dry, so I figure around 7k loaded. Again my 1/2 ton truck, as equipped states a tow capacity of 8750, still OK, but not as much leeway as I would prefer. Also, a bit shaky in the wind, my guess is a heavier truck would do better.
Older pickups can't handle much weight but newer pickups can...how old is your half ton?
I’m not in favor of the window being at the headboard. For me in gives a sense of feeling not safe and exposed. I would prefer the sleeping area to be more secure. At first glance, the dinette table looked outta place, but with the leaf and game storage hidden within the table, it made me warm up to the idea of it. Jayco white Hawk, bathroom felt more residential. The shower size is larger folks friendly
Not a big fan of windows at the head of the bed either. We had one in our first motorhome and the morning sun would cause us to wake up hot and sweaty sometimes🤣. Had to install reflective material to help minimize that. Shower/bathroom size is so important! I don't want to spend all that money and not have it user friendly. Thanks MadeUpLikeADoll!
Suprising after spending $40-$60K on these RVs that you need to reinforce the drawers. Just shows the poor craftsmanship.
It's not just poor craftsmanship. It's also about keeping the weight down. But they doo need to do a better job with almost all drawer bottoms we see in all the RVs we tour. Alliance RV does a great job with their drawer bottoms.
I love the front kitchens, too! I'd go for the Jayco or Winnebago. The Keystone doesn't have enough kitchen cabinets, is dark and the TV is too high.
You are right about the kitchen space in the Keystone. And I hate when the TV is too high too. Literally a pain in the neck! 🤣 Thank you Britt for your support!
Great job you both. I really enjoy measering the bed, shower heigth,,and shower heigth as I am almost 6'7". Most of these campers I could not stay in. Being this tall sort of sucks some times. LOL
Thank you so much for the kind words! So glad you like the measuring up. I understand how challenging it must be in an RV when you're 6'7". Did you catch our one video we made with TTs with taller ceiling height? ruclips.net/video/z6iSJmKIDxA/видео.html Thank you for all your support!
I do not want windows in the bedroom, especially where my head is. I dont want to lean against that reading a book before bed, plus, creepy, less secure, etc...
Makes great sense to me and I agree!
Thanks for commenting!
Mike
The Keystone needs to dump that dinett and get something without the knee knockers. Get the TV off the ceiling, put it donw at a viewable level.
All great point! We love the leg-less dinettes for that reason. I think they run out of good locations for TV placement and stick them anywhere they can 🤣. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting!
R v hey where is this camp trailer place located that with state
We saw these RVs at the Hershey RV Show in Pennsylvania. Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting!
Can’t have enough windows
Agree! Love the natural light and airflow!
Wild Ride Ahead.
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I drive a RAM 1500 with max towing capability and the camper we pull is a 22ft Palomino Puma Ultra Lite that comes in at 3100 dry weight. On a good hill or a good crosswind, it gets questionable in my opinion. But I am also not one to stretch the limit much when it comes to my families safety. I would not pull 8900 with a 1500 unless absolutely had to.
Might depend on the year of the truck too. Older trucks can't hal as much as the newer models. Thanks for your comment though. We do appreciate you sharing your experience.
Love y'all's videos, great job!
Here's a video idea I think y'all should do: "3 travel trailers with washer and dryer near 30 feet", and here they are:
Rockwood signature 8262 RBS
Palomino puma 26FKDS
Venture Sport trek St271VMB
Thanks again!
Love that idea. Now I just have to find those floor plans. We'll be on the lookout at the Tampa RV show. Thanks for the suggestion and the help finding floor plans!
Great video! Also look at the Sunset Trail 272bh. Sleeps up to 10 with a tall ceiling, just 722lbs hitch weight and 5600lbs dry. Well within half-ton pickup range.
Sounds like an awesome travel trailer. We'll have to be on the lookout for that floor plan. Thanks for the suggestion. And thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting.
Your both are so professional with your presentations I just love it.
Thank you so much for the kind words! We appreciate your support.
Your such a joy to watch--NO one else explains things like you do--
Thank you so much! We truly appreciate your support!❤️
I like the jayco sky light and I like the Keystone for storage. They are all very nice and spacious. Thank you Mike and Susan., Hope you have a great week and see you next week.
Thank you Sherri! A skylight is a nice feature to have in an RV. Provides so much more natural light. Next weekend we'll be getting ready for the Tampa Show🎉. Always exciting. Hope you have a great weekend too! Thank you for your support!
@@RVBlogger oh ok good! Can’t wait to see you show what they have at the Rv show.
Love the kitchens in the front.
Me too! So much more counter space and better natural lighting.
Okay I see all 3😊
Awesome! Thank you for watching our RV tour video and commenting!
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Thank you Luvpig!
Thanks for sharing
You are welcome! Thank you for watching and commenting Kim!!!
@@RVBloggeri enjoy your posts! They’re informative
@@kimkrebs451 thank you! So glad you find them helpful ❤️.
Love the window over bed
That is a really nice feature!
Thanks for watching!
Mike