We hired an inspector here in California and it was a $500 ~ totally worth it. In our case, it was the 2022 A class motorhome, and there were issues that we would not have otherwise known about. We were able to bring that to the dealers attention and get that fixed at no extra cost to ourselves. In the end, the inspector cost paid for itself.
We paid 650.00 for an inspection and found out there was water damage and the electrical system was faulty. We passed. Feel like the inspection saved us money in the long run. Still shopping.
I hired a private inspector when I bought my NEW 2020 Kodiak qb. I paid him $250., he spent 2.5 hours on it. They fixed 3 minor issues and I bought it. To everyone……Josh is right on point!! This is valuable information. Take it!
Last year when working at a campground in Montana, we had a young male solo camper come in with one of those rented Class Cs. Outside staff guided him into his site, he stayed a day and then came into the office saying he was done with camping. I asked if there was anything we could do to help or solve a problem and he said, no, that after 10 days of rving, he had just decided it wasn't for him. He didn't like driving it around, every campground had different rules and different connection set ups. At every campground something went wrong with the rv (I tried to explain to him that sometimes the rental class c rvs are rented out so fast that a flaw or need for maintenance could be overlooked but might be just simple fixes) I again asked if there was anything we could do to help him out. He said he didn't like the work of setting up, he'd rather be in a hotel where all he had to do to get rid of his $hit was to push a lever and it was done, no sewer tank to worry about along with other comments about rving vs staying in a hotel. He brought in cases of water, a brand new cooler, two cannisters of bear spray and other equipment. He said to give it away for him because he was done. Just done. Even when outside staff went over to talk to him, he was polite but again said he was just done with rving. Expensive and sad lesson to learn but at least not as expensive as buying one and then deciding it wasn't for him.
He was a first time camper and found out it's not for him. I've been camping for years in a tent and as I get older it gets harder to sleep on mats and or cots. If ever I get an Rv and someday I will, I will feel like this guy would feel sleeping in a 5 star hotel.
@@gino82524 Some of what this guy did not like are some of the things I desperately want to travel in myRV. Thinking and prepin' my little car for campin'.
That was smart of him to rent before buying. His loss was just that of the rental and the rest he donated to other campers. He could go home and call it a done and dusted, a one and done. I think a lot of people just went forth and bought head first. Then they get it home and that is where it stays. I have a friend that bought one, a really nice one (used) during the height of buying rv's. She had and her husband had big plans and I think used it once then decided it was too difficult to set up. She didn't like the manual levels, she decided the decor was rather dull. Camping was boring unless you were into some outdoor sports that kept you busy. So its been sitting in their lawn now for a year I guess and now they are selling it. So they bought the camper to use once.
You've won me over 💯. When I buy an RV, I'm gonna book a room near Bish's and work with your salespeople. The whole idea that Bish's has you represent them & put out these vids? You brand the company as honest, dependable, fun, hard working, and fair. I appreciate the RV tours you give (thorough & honest) as well as the industry knowledge you share. In this tech age, when us middle aged and younger folks are doing most things by social media, I wonder if Bish's understands how far-reaching these videos are? Whether they do or don't understand the golden egg you (Josh) are laying, this marketing is stellar. A lot of future sales (including mine) will be because of the work you've put in to grow this channel.
Have owned 36ft toyhaualer since 2017, lived in an airstream excella 500 for 3 years. ANYONE wanting to buy and rv needs to lookup Steve Lehto youtube video on buying an rv today. Be careful what you sign for at purchase!!!!
All excellent advice. Personal story. Partner had a trailer, decided we wanted a motorhome. When we purchased the motorhome, we had it inspected (cost $250 in 2015) found 3 minor issues. The coach only had 45,000 miles on it. Also had it inspected by a mechanic (and I'd been one for 25 years) - both inspectors were followed by the dealerships service manager. We added up the costs. Then went for the deal - either take care of the items or reduce the price from which we had offered - your choice - - - they reduced the price and did all the work, we had some items added and changed, they did the additional at cost. On a Motorhome - - - demand you take it for a test drive especially if it's used. When we managed a campground for the county it was amazing how many had just bought - - then said they wished they had bought uses or rented first. They ended up not liking features - - - also we purchased an "extended Warranty/Service policy from USAA as well as RV insurance. So that is out there but KNOW who you''re buying from and reputation. PS. We paid cash - - sold it 5 years later for what we paid, yes it was that clean. Keep up the good work Josh.
It worked so well for you! I went to an RV show this winter and people were just buying buying buying. It kind of annoyed me because there is NO reason for the dealers to work any deal with you if they know the next person that comes along with just pay for it, no questions...just buy it before the next person buys it. Those 'last one' deals.. I have been looking at Rvs off and on for years now. Never found the 'perfect' one for me. Size, weight, auto leveling, right price... never found one that fit into that box I created for myself. I had no intentions of buying an RV at the RV show but I wanted to see what was out there. I mean, A frames for 30 grand????? Pop up campers in the uppers teens to low 20s???? I am always gobsmacked and what people are willing to pay. Will see where this all goes.
Josh as an RV inspector I am seeing several dealerships who are charging the customer for what the dealer is calling an inspection. So, the dealer does their PDI and charges the customer an extra fee. I have heard dealers charging anywhere from $500 to over $1000 for the dealer to inspect the RV. I had a client where the dealer wanted to charge him a non-refundable inspection fee provided the RV passed the dealer inspection. Other things dealers have tried include having the client sign a waiver that they will pay for anything the inspector breaks. Any certified inspector will have liability insurance. In my case it is a million dollar policy.
This is absolutely awesome information and I really appreciate you sharing this with everyone. I’ll never claim to know everything and I certainly don’t get it all right. Anytime you’d like to share some insights, even if they’re contrary to what I might think or say on a video, then please do so Getting people REAL Information is really my goal here
If you are a new or seasoned RV'R, pay attention to this video. Josh is on point and I agree with him. I have learned a lot from him and I hope he doesn't get his feathers ruffled when I call things out about builds. Love you NERD.
TY Buddy. I appreciate all you questions/comments as well. You're critical but always reasonably so with very fair questions/points of concern. YOU keep it coming too :)
One other comment about getting an RV inspector: The inspector works for you, not the dealership or owner of the rig. The report goes to you, the customer who is paying the inspector. A legitimate inspector will not automatically give that inspection report to anyone else. If the dealership wants a copy of the inspection report they must get it from you, the person who paid the inspector. Anyone who tells you otherwise has something shady going on. You are not under any obligation to provide the full report to anyone, however, if there are items flagged for repair or replacement you may need to share those parts of the report with the dealership so they understand exactly what needs attention.
Such valuable information. We’re 1st timers…found an RV but when the dealer didn’t want a private inspector we left. We realized that where we purchase can be just as important as what we purchase. Your truthfulness gives me hope that we may still be able to find somewhere reliable with something we want. Appreciate all the tips! In my opinion you give the best detailed videos and the most valuable information!! 💯👍
@@muzerhythm2242 just in the process now. Because we’re extreme newbies and planning to make a couple cross country trips we requested more than the usual inspection. We are also asking for a basic repair instructions. Like if something leaks and we have to go thru the underbelly, roof leaks, sticky slides. This is being done separate from the on site inspection. Because of this our cost is above the normal. But the average quote varied for type,lengths and time spent. The general quote for our used 33 ft 5th wheel was between $500 to $1200 depending on how in-depth/time it takes. Our RV inspection was thru BluCat RV Servies, LLC in Louisville. Hope that helps!
Also if going for a bumper pull and planning on getting a weight distribution hitch: if the trailer comes with such a hitch, like mine did, lift it yourself and make sure you can actually manage putting it in place and putting it away. They can be very heavy. If you are buying new or plan on buying a new weight distribution hitch go to a reputable hitch store and talk to them about the different hitches, preferably before you buy the bumper pull trailer, and again lift the hitches and make sure you will be able to manage them. I can manage mine, but when my arthritis flares up it gets iffy.
Hey y'all, I've posted a lot of comments here about my personal experience in shopping for and buying a camper. My husband and I spent a full year making a decision. We watched Josh's videos for a year, we shopped various vendors in our area (Texas) and we literally spent an entire YEAR to make a decision. We did the same thing when we bought our home. It's a BIG investment. We've owned multiple pleasure items,(4 boats, jet skis, 4 wheelers) so when we decided to buy a 'tiny home' for vacationing in and use as a weekend getaway, we did our research and came up with the very best plan for our future. The camper we bought was NOTHING that I ever expected to buy, but I'm SO HAPPY that we bought a TOY HAULER. I would have NEVER thought we'd get a toy hauler, but it turned out to be PERFECT for us! It's really important to get what you want in life and NOT live with regrets, so, as Josh says, use your common sense, and if you're not sure, hire a professional to inspect what you are trying to make your 'happy place' in your life.
Wow.. congratulations on your RV btw! My wife is similar in how she really deep dives into things before just pulling triggers (something that's served our family quite well more than once!) If you haven't done so, then I'd sure appreciate a quick review at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review in return for the help hand along the way but more than anything I hope to continue seeing you here sharing your wisdom and insights as an owner What kind of RV exactly did you get btw?
Josh I got to say that you're pretty awesome and last year when you said that it was changing over to a different company I was scared that we were going to lose you and I'm so glad that we're not because I've learned so much from you and I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart you are an amazing person and keep up the good work and God bless you
Borrow/rent is big! We were able to borrow my in-laws trailer for a "trial run" trip. We had fun, but also learned a lot about what we need to function well and comfortably
I've been living in a 30 ft RV for 6 years and I love it. I've saved myself so much money. I rent a space in a RV Park and considering buying a newer one because the one I have is about 18 years old.. that I remodeled and replaced a few things. Bust still it's been great.
Wow, and I’m tripping over the RV that I’m about to purchase;it’s 13 years old and it’s in pretty good shape. Still in all that isn’t to say that I don’t need a inspection because I do😮
Speaking to your point on hiring an RV inspector before purchase: ABSOLUTELY YES! When I found a trailer that I was interested in I hired a certified inspector to give it a thorough going over before purchase. It cost me over $700, but considering I was going to spend over $20,000 I figured it was a worthwhile expense. And yes indeed, it was. (Cost of the inspection is at least partially dependent upon size and complexity of the rig they will be inspecting.) While my inspector did not find any problems that caused me to walk away from the trailer immediately, he did find several issues, some of which were life safety issues (sneaky little things easily overlooked, but that could pose a real danger). I was buying from a dealership, buying a used rig, and they claimed to have done their PDI. They did not catch these life safety issues. I told them all of the flagged items had to be fixed or replaced or I would not buy the trailer. The dealership did not argue, and agreed to fix or replace all of them. One of the reasons I bought from this dealership was because when I initially visited them and asked them about bringing in my own third party inspector they were all for it. Other dealerships I had visited and asked the same question of either waffled a bit and hemmed and hawed, or in the case of one dealership actually tried to actively discourage me from bringing in an inspector of my own. I promptly decided that that particular dealership would not get another visit from me even if they got in the perfect trailer. The inspector's report is very detailed and thorough for whatever they are able to test. Able to test is the key here. They need to be able to run all of the different systems in order to test them. However they usually cannot drive an RV or tow a trailer, so there will be elements of it that they won't be able to inspect. After I bought my trailer I took it to a local hitch and trailer shop near my home and had them do a separate inspection of the bits that make it a trailer, especially the brakes. I got a good report and advice on when to expect certain work to need to be done, especially on the brakes. For finding a certified inspector the national RV inspectors association, NRVIA, is one source. I believe they are based in Texas, but their inspectors can be found all over the 48 contiguous states at least. There might be another inspector credentialing organization out there, but I do not know of one at this time offhand. Please do web searches to find out more.
@@JoshtheRVNerd could you please do some videos regarding: *the pros and cons of fifth wheel versus bumper pull, *whether anti sway and weight distribution can be added to fifth wheel hitches and if so how, and *would a fifth wheel be easier to manage hooking up and unhooking as people age and get creaky? While I believe I'll be able to manage lifting and shoving my weight distribution hitch for my bumper pull for a few years yet I do wonder how the situation will change as I get older. I don't want a motorized RV, so would a fifth wheel be a better option? * Perhaps to address one concern of mine regarding motorized RVs, how about a video discussing different motorized RV classes and the protections in place for the driver and front seat passenger, any other passengers, and securing contents of the RV in the case of accidents and rollovers? What turned me against motorized RVs for myself was seeing the aftermath of accidents along the highway, where it was clear that the second row of seats was in the crushed section, and lots of debris flew forward into the driving cab.
Haven't bought or owned a travel trailer yet but currently shopping around... for used, but via a dealership (for financing) but one RV service center (not affiliated with the selling dealership... duh) quoted me $400 for a comprehensive total inspection ( in the PNW - eastern WA, N Idaho area).
I used to work on boats with grad students when I was an undergrad. We had an opening/closing checklist to go over EVERY SINGLE TIME we used a boat to make sure the boat was safe and fully functional before we got 2 miles off the coast, plus we kept a log of the checklist and all repairs/maintenance done (even when we filled up gas and the cost!) in a handy dandy binder. I plan on creating a similar checklist for my future full-time RV. I don't want to take the chance of doing something stupid because I'm tired after hauling a big baddie 5th wheel across 4 states in a day to my next job assignment.
As our family considers buying our very first travel trailer, I've been doing a lot of research, and your channel has really helped me out, Josh. Thanks so much for helping me demystify this process a little.
Great tips! When I was in car sales and was demo'ing a car to a customer that was looking at a car at another dealership, I would actually tell and educate them on specific questions to ask the other dealership about their car, dealership, and service after the sale. Build value in yourself as a sales rep, your dealership, and your willingness to help them get the right vehicle. It made for a great relationship and referrals.
Great video. And I totally agree, the payload capacity of our truck was something that THANKFULLY our dealer was very thorough with investigating before they sold us our current trailer. It was fine for the smaller rig we had before, but thankfully we upgraded to a bigger truck before we bought our WhiteHawk. The dealership was very thorough, I appreciate them for that.
That's NICE to hear actually Debbie! Sadly, that's not always the case. And please feel free to share the dealership's name. I'm not one of those guys that gets ruffled about that stuff. If they earned praise, then share it! :)
@@JoshtheRVNerd lol I wasn't sure if I could share or not, so thank you. It was Broadmoor RV in Pasco, WA. Again, they were very adamant about checking if our rig could handle it. And truthfully, I'd still like a bigger truck but ours does just fine lol.
My husband did a lot of research on a good towing truck that could pull almost any trailer before we even started looking for our first trailer. I am so glad he did because I know someone who did zero research and they bought a huge 5th wheel with three slides. The dealership never talked with them about their truck and it can’t haul it! Now they are stick with a trailer they can’t pull and they can’t afford another truck. Bad situation!
Great advice as usual. As a 25 year RV owner, I would also add floor plan, floor plan, floor plan. We have had trailers for as long as 14 years when the floor plan worked for our family and as short as 1 year when it did not.
Also, really try out the furniture. Are you actually going to be comfortable sitting at that dinette long enough to eat or work on the computer? Give the beds a try, and lay on them for at least 15 minutes, just like they recommend you do when buying a new bed. While these might not be as comfy as in a house, it's at least good to know ahead of time if they are too uncomfortable or too tight.
Listen and learn again and again EVEN if old timer. I started with large Apache pop ups' in the 80's towing behind a 4 banger turbo and a 6 banger had three and all sold fast Why all plastic folded like a deck of cards and no drying time if in a rainstorm during the weekend. What you learn is speed limits during towing very important with any trailer. Best advice is rent before buying, first no matter the rig big or small all is a lot of WORK!!! Yes hours of setup and take down remembering steps and wondering if you forgot something!!! Think a weekend start is after work Friday getting a hundred miles before dark praying for no rain and an hour + to setup, then maybe a sunset or dinner over a fireplace or grill if room for it then clean up a shower before bed. Sat. wake up again grill work for breakfast/cleanup, 2 hours till lunch grill again cleanup maybe 3 or 4 hours till dinner grill again/ clean up an hour of play then shower, sleep, Sunday breakfast grill work then check out time 11am pack up tear down check double check all is in place the the 2 hr drive home back in rig setup for storage, take in duty chotches and stuff again supper stove time dishes ect shower before bed back to monday work . Even if a 3 or 4 day weekend just longer - Guy stuff to do, lady does way more ran even more washing clothes every night till Friday and it starts all over. It will also cost $1K for all extra stuff to make the work seem easier. A rig is work not play think about it. You will do this over and over for 10 years or so because it is not paid for yet. Forgot you may have to store it when home so load up and unload time before and after, just zoom zoom time!!! Yep 4 decades of fun!!!
Regarding batteries and spare tires and propane tanks and other such external gear: oftentimes the dealerships will remove those and put them into storage for safekeeping because RVs left out on a lot often have these items stolen from them. Pay very close attention to make sure they replace these items with the proper items. One of the things flagged in my inspection was the missing spare tire, even though I told them ahead of time I wanted the spare tire available at the time of inspection. They agreed to supply the spare tire when I purchased the trailer because they failed to get it out in time for the inspector. I did not think to check the spare that they gave me, and that tire is rated with a Max pressure lower than the recommended tire pressure for my trailer. In effect I ended up with a donut, so I will need to replace that tire soon, simply because it wasn't available for the inspector to check and I didn't think to check it myself before purchase of the trailer.
If it was a new RV, that spare rim & tire should be replaced by the dealer or the factory. We once bought new out of state, and learned we had the wrong spare when we got home (5 lug vs 6 lug), I phoned the factory and they shipped me a new rim/tire assembly and didn't want the old one back!😎
All good advice. My first camper, I pretty much had to rebuild. This helps because you know how to fix anything and know how almost everything works. The saying I've heard about owning an RV is you either need to be handy or need to be patient. I wasn't able to buy a used because of the floorplan issue. It was a floorplan that had only been out a couple of years and it wasn't until later that anybody else built similar. Good luck with the inspector. I contacted 2 inspectors listed in the area, neither replied. The dealership was ok with the inspector but they were going to require I pay for any time they had to dedicate to the inspection. I was my own inspector but because I had built a camper, I knew what to look for. I was using my camera to video my walk through....I wasn't paying attention and the camera went to sleep so I lost about 3/4 of the walk through. I was ok without the inspector because Josh the RV Nerd told me that the brand I was buying had a history of being well made. (He wasn't the only one to say that) Another advantage of buying new compared to used is insurance. My insurance has a lot more advantages/perks to new campers than used.
Wow. It never occurred to me an RV park would turn away a customer because of the age of the vehicle. That's a huge deal if you're looking to stay in them and buying a used RV. I was looking at older ones as a long-term commitment but thinking of doing a mix with staying a RV parks and camping. That's something important to think about.
Josh, Ron (“in Utah”) here. I have watched many of your videos in the past few months and want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for your honesty, integrity & empathy for your fellow man! We used to have a one-year-old class A National RV SeaBreeze 30 foot RV on a Ford chassis & loved it. Medical issues caused us to sell it, & I am exploring the possibility of purchasing another RV of some type. Keep up your great, very informative videos! (( Folks, Please Consider Thanking Josh by purchasing him a “Thanks.” Very easy, just push that button & buy him a coffee, or lunch ‼️😀 ))
Another thing to add is the length! The model number of the RV doesn't necessarily mean the length. If it says like 2400BH or whatever, the 24 doesn't mean total length. The main "house" might be 24 ft but from bumper to hitch you're probably looking at closer to 28ft. Something to consider if you're concerned about the length. Keep up the good work! Love your videos.
Yep! Took me 6 months to figure out the model number did not represent actual length 90% of the time! Still now I’d say 90% of RV reviews on RUclips fail to mention actual tip to toe numbers.
Josh, thanks for all the great information! I'm new to the idea of an RV and am grateful for people like you who are in the industry and are willing to help folks like me who know nothing about RV buying! 😍
Another great and helpful video, Josh! My parents gave me their motorhome when they got to the age it time to "pack it in." It was a 36' 1999 Bounder. We used it for a couple of years and enjoyed it. But due to illness, we had to stop and I sold it. To make a long story short, I decided I am ready to start RVing again. The tips you list are great. Because of prior ownership, I've covered the first couple. I put enough money down to cover the taxes and the add on accessories. The dealership provided a detailed list of what comes with the Jayco: a battery, cleaned and prepped, full LP tanks and a walk through at delivery. What I had not thought of was Tip 7, record it! I will do that and will also record the questions and answers that come up. Thanks again!
Make sure it is a good, certified inspector. Really worth the $$, even on a new rig. If buying from dealer, make sure they "allow" inspectors... if not, find a new dealer.
We appreciate your videos and especially appreciate your opinions. We have been watching you for some time now. With all our “uncle Josh” knowledge tucked under our belt we went off shopping. We still don’t own an rv. We were able to walk away and not give our money to someone who wouldn’t have passed your integrity standards. Thanks so much for all you do. Big hugs for saving us 1000s
Such great advice! I've watched so many of your videos and I continue to learn new things. We bought our first TT this year and didn't hire an independent inspector. Luckily we haven't had any major issues other than the propane quick connect recall issue and the black tank pull lever sticks. 🙄 I have a little bit of advice - Purchase from a dealer as close as possible to where you live. Makes it so much easier if for any reason you need warranty or recall work done on your rig. Also, when looking at towing capacity always call the manufacturer of your vehicle! Give them your VIN number and they can look up your specific model and give exact towing number. Keep in mind that most towing capacity in your manual or the sticker inside the driver door (CCC) does not include a full tank of gas. Towing capacity on my Toyota Tundra is reduced by 400 lbs with a full tank
Also check the weight limits on the hitch itself on your vehicle. You might have to crawl under the vehicle in order to see this, but it is important. What your vehicle will actually handle is no more than the lowest limit of all the different parts of the systems. Sometimes people forget to check the hitch.
Good point. I didn't think about the distance of the dealership for needed repairs or warranty issues. I am willing to travel all the way up north to get a rig. I may need to re-consider.
@@latonyasaffor152 Yes, you may want to! We just had to take our rig back to our dealer 4 hours away- 8 round trip for warranty work! Our propane furnace quit working the last day of our late fall camping trip - 😬 We also had them change our blank tank valve that kept sticking and a USB port wasn't working, so the 8 hour drive wasn't just for one thing haha 🤷 They had the work finished in a week and a half , so add another 8 hours to pick it up and we stayed in a hotel near our dealer Ansley RV in PA the night before to break up the trip before picking it up.
I RV’d with my parents for years but never owned my own RV. These are very good points to remember when buying! I will definitely rent before I buy just to make sure this is what I want. Yes, set up is a real hassle for some people but I find it a small price to pay considering the enjoyment I get out of it. New subscriber here! Thanks for the great info!
This is great advice Josh even for us not so newbies There's always room for more learning. I appreciate all your upfront honesty. Thanks for the video
God bless you Josh for help everyone the way that you do. We have a small RV van but looking to get a 5th wheele down the road and your information videos are a huge blessing to us. Thank you for your honesty. Your extremely helpful and knowledgeable it’s making it easier for us to do our research. This will be a big purchase for us thinking about what type of truck we’re gonna need and the type of fifth wheel your videos are helping us with so much. Also getting an understanding about how much we need to start saving up now. God bless you, thank you again so much, hope to work with you once we are ready.
Eeeeew Josh so glad that I ran across your video because I see so many mistakes that I would have made had I purchased the RV I was looking at two years ago. I've wanted one of these since the 80s but life happened. I've been looking at them but I became a care giver for both my parents and then Covid. The last of my parents are deceased so I got thrust into a living situation to where my interest in a RV is strong ,thank you for honesty because I'm realizing that a couple of places were trying me to rush into a purchase I didn't feel comfortable purchasing
Man I’m really sorry to hear about your family and I commend you for your dedication to them. I have literally thousands of videos here and hope they find you additional benefit
@@JoshtheRVNerd thank you so much for the response. I definitely will be checking out your videos because I want one and glad I didn't rush into buying the one I saw 2 years ago
Thank you for your candid advice. I am by nature a person who asks thorough questions before I invest my money, and it is refreshing to hear someone who understands a buyer like me. I hope there is a dealer near my in my country who feels the way you do.
There definitely does seem to be an overall feeling in the industry of “push the customer to buy it now now now.“ That’s just never how I’ve been comfortable operating. I feel strongly if we find you the right one, then you’ll have a better experience and be more likely to recommend returns and referrals to us which is truly how I think we grow our business
Hi, thanks for your great honest content. Wanted to say in this video I especially liked your comments on tow vehicle. We just recently purchased a used rv. While looking found one online that was interested in at a used rv dealership and with asking questions to make sure my truck could tow it. They basically said if have 3/4 ton or better then good, had no idea of camper weight, GVWR, or hitch weight and couldn't care less. Said they just sale them then its the buyers responsibility to find out. I agree in the end it's the buyer responsibility but that tells me all I needed to know about them as a dealer.... run...
Our first buying experience 7 years ago as it relates to this advice. 1) We tent camped for years with family that had RVs. We knew we wanted one for sure. 2) Talked to salesman in person but he kinda oversold our trucks towing capability 3) Trailer was 5 years old financed at 5.49% for 10 years on $10k sale price 4) No inspection. Big fail. There were active leaks and water damage 5) I didn't ask anything. I was clueless. Inclided most things to get started (RV starter kit). Had to pay extra for a brake controller and a WDH I didnt realize I needed. 7) $2500 down 7) Didn't record our walk-through. We camped with family on our first trip and they were very helpful. 8) No questions asked. Too excited. I could have done a lot better and we lost a lot of money on the deal. I have since bought 2 new trailers, most recently a 2022 Rockwood MiniLite 2507s
Man.. sorry to hear all this. If you’re a member of any sort of camping groups, then please consider sharing this video to maybe help someone else avoid some of those pitfalls
I bought a/an class B+/-C Sprinter based motor home. Glad I did, but the inspections after the fact were not cheap. The dealer included 48 point inspection was a joke. I had to ask the guys to check tire pressures and every tire was soft. A few other things with the 'dealer inspection'. But I took it to another service center for the house section ($800-ish) and took it to Mercedes for the chassis section and oil change etc. ($1200). Not cheap but I went on the road for 2400 miles days later and had minimal issues. 100% agree with the inspection and learning. You are a huge, honest, resource for future RV buyers. Keep it up! You and Bisch;s are awesome!!!
In keeping with your buying used one thing I suggest to folks is to not go big on their first trailer and to keep it simple. Most folks are unlikely to keep their first trailer for a long time as they learn more about their needs and wants. It was on our first trailer where we learned we needed a walk around bed, dry bath and a slide for more space. We decided we were not stand alone booth types and preferred a couch with TV tables but could live with either depending upon the rest of the floor plan. Likewise we prefer a full range with oven and cook top but will also be fine with a convection microwave and cook top. By keeping track of the "Wouldn't it be nice if we could ..." we learned that looking at small things like where can we install a Blu-ray player, locate our wireless router, potential spots for towel rods, etc were important to finding the best trailer for us.
I just bought my first camper a few months back, it's small, used, and needs some minor attention but it works for me and I feel it's a great beginner camper to get my feet wet and possibly upgrade in time if camping works for me.
Thank you! Feel better about my purchase listening to you. Just bought a 2024 Keystone Bullet Crossfire 1900RD. Doing the walk through in 3 hours. Recording!
We bought a used pop up two years ago to see if RV-ing was even something me and my wife would enjoy and we've found we love it!!! We just sold that pop up and next spring will be looking to upgrade to a hard shell RV. Your channel has really helped me to better understand what our needs are and what would work for us! I wish i lived closer to your store!
Very good advice here both in the comments and by the Nerd We actually did a lot of this moving from tent camping to glamping. Adding my .02 here Renting -- be super careful what you rent and who you rent from/through. We used RVshare for our first(and only) rental and while the unit was nice, the folks who owned it were less than helpful in helping us hook up (they never used the weight distribution setup!!!) and a lot of things on the camper were broken when we rented. Thank goodness we did an inspection before hand and I am a bit handy and could fix on the fly. Also having the owner walk through the unit with you prior to renting will help a ton Buying--used is for sure the best way to go and CASH is the absolute best way to go for first timers. While the market is red hot for campers understand that these are assets that depreciate and financing is going to get harder to obtain in the future. Buy em well used, old, and cheap for cash, get on YT and learn how to maintain one (videos galore out there) and start off camping cheap. If you luck out, you get a very well maintained one like we did. Otherwise, its a fixer and you put in the sweat equity to make it nice. Much like motorcycles, spend more on your gear/maintenance than the unit itself. Maintenance--unless you have a newer camper/RV, DIY maintenance is fairly easy even for those of limited handyperson skill. Its part road vehicle (tires, axles, etc) and part house (electrical, plumbing, gas, structure). YT is definitely a friend here, search up what is or may break and there is probably 10 videos out there showing the whole diagnosis/fix process. Many even have links to get the part for cheap. Another reason to DIY is time...you can get parts cheaper but you can install ASAP vs waiting for the dealer to slot you in. 1st timer mistakes---your are going to break things, do things incorrectly that put stress on your rig, have bad hookup experiences, all things that newbies will run into just getting into RVing. But its a lot different when its on an older/used rig than on a brand spanking new one. I have broken or EOL (end of life) so many things on our camper due to my lack of knowledge/skill and its easier to tell myself/SO that it can be fixed. When you break something on that shiny new rig still under finance that warranty probably wont cover its a real day killer. We had our awning destroyed during a freak windstorm while at home trying to let it dry out...warranty wont cover that but we fixed ourselves in a day or so and saved our camping trip. Surely there are those who will disagree and say this is bunk but this is what I have experienced so far. 20 year old camper, 10 year old truck, all fully owned. The knowledge I have gained doing my own work on it and saving money by not having payments has been invaluable. Its a project that I enjoy working on even at the campsite!
Excellent points Josh I agree with everything you said. I would highly agree with figuring out what your tow vehicle can handle. If you're driving down the highway with an underperforming tow vehicle it will ruin the entire experience and put you at higher risk for an accident. At that time all the other steps are moot points and I couldn't tell you how many scary setups I've seen whipping sideways down the expressway.
i was surprised by a few of these things with our first RV purchase as well, mainly the age limit at RV parks and the lesser financing options. We were able to purchase an aftermarket warranty and roadside service package with ours but with our situation, we still end up paying for repairs out of pocket and the roadside has been more useful for pulling our vehicles out of the snow. Even with our hefty down payment we still ended up walking out owing the asking price, and i still worry about us going backwards in it. It also depends on what your use case may be, our original intent was to move cross country in it and then rent it out. However, finding places to get it repaired (many service centers will only do service on vehicles they've sold right now) and paying for all the repairs to get it to pass inspection so that we could (mostly having to purchase a new set of class C tires) ended up limiting us as the warranty only covers items that aren't known at time of purchase when purchasing a as-is vehicle. Side note, even if the tread on the tires are good they're not like car tires and the life goes by the manufacture date of the tire, not the visual amount of wear. So if you plan to rent out your rig to pay for your rig there may be a few other things to consider. make sure you have the time and energy to invest into it to rent it out and you know all your available local service areas.
Josh, absolutely love the videos. I'd love one where you go over the things to look out for in a used rv that would be immediate and obvious red flags, such as internal wall damage that may not be super noticeable at first glance.
Plug the RV in and feel the plug after it has been plugged in for several minutes. If the plug or the cord feels hot it's a life safety issue. Get that replaced.
I only bought and RV after first renting one for a couple of weeks. Then I got a little teardrop and few years later I decided to buy a full travel trailer. I ended up buying used, because I could get a high quality (Coachmen Apex) for a lot less than new, plus the previous owners are wonderful, loved their RV and looked after it well. Because of the lower price, I was able to get an RV that is "certified green", which is important for me, because I get an asthma attack and/or unbearably burning throat when I walk into most new RVs. I don't want to be breathing in formaldehyde when I want to be breathing fresh air.
Saved this video!!! Great information. With such honesty you guys show, when we are ready in a couple years, we will travel to see you guys up there. Been watching for a couple years now ( even with the transition), it's very important to trust the dealership. We are waiting to see what has prices are going to do and pay off my truck before making more payments. I will use this indoor for sure. Thank you!!
I am new to RVs, great video, I am not new to people and their games and politics. I have gotten a lot out of having a technician go along with mr and the salesman. The best questions are the technical ones where their answer differ, and I already know the answer or can figure out who’s lying, who’s making things up. Answers need to make sense and not provide conflicting info. It’s always good to see how helpful
Thanks Nerd! I am a first time buyer and I have had two inspections now...they cost about $1200 each, plus travel fees, which were not too bad. I have to say that while the inspections were expensive, they were very educational and the inspectors were very helpful. And most importantly the inspections found things that needed to be fixed - some simple things like cracks, gaps and missing sealant and some not so simple things like on my first inspection where the electrical system kept shutting off and blowing breakers. The dealership tried to fix it, said it was fixed, but when I went to pick ip up, pop went the breaker and off went the inverter...and I walked away after a week of waiting for a fix. The second inspection found water intrusion and completely rotten slide floors (trying not to beat myself up for not noticing that!) And the dealership was not willing to fix them or budge on their price, which was already on the high side for a good quality unit...so I walked away again. The money I spent on inspection sure saved me a lot of money and headaches in both circumstances. Now I am twice bitten...four times shy? 😂 and shopping at your home store...here's hoping the 3rd time is the charm!
#8 is great advice. I was at a (non-Bish) rv show today in a huge Vanleigh Beacon. Another couple touring the rv asked if we knew how long it was (we didn't). They saw a salesman who said "oh, it's a ***369, so that means it's 36 feet". About a minute later the couple's wife found out on her phone that it was 40ft long. Was the salesman being misleading or was he clueless to the realities of model numbers being marketing propaganda? Either way, that's not a guy who I'd be comfortable buying from.
Thank you for this. Wife and I are looking to purchase our first RV in the near future, and some of your suggestions we had not thought of. We had already decided to purchased pre-owned for our first unit, just for the reasons you mentioned. I’m keeping this video handy so I can refer to it when we are actually at the point of making a purchase.
Thanks, Josh! Great info! I’m not a first time buyer, but I haven’t RV’d for a day or two, meaning a lot of years. I’m also a single, retired female. That means there are at least three things I’m worried about being taken advantage of in buying my next (3rd) RV. Plus, I don’t necessarily know what I don’t know. So your video hits home with me and I appreciate your candor. I wish I could do business with you! So thanks again.
Happy to have you here Karen. Remember when it comes to buying YOU always have the final say Follow your gut instincts. If it smelly funny.. then it’s probably funny
I went to an RV fair when we had kids aged 4, 2, and 1. Had never set food in a recreational vehicle before that. We didn’t buy, but we spent a lot of time looking around, exploring layouts and options, and had a good talk with an independent RV inspector who told me to never sign the paperwork for a rig before consulting an inspector. Lots of good lessons, and better understanding of what’s available out there. It’s been 5 years and we’ve got more kids, and are starting to look at what we can fit into, and what a newbie like me can tow safely and confidently. So far I’ve towed the largest uhaul cargo trailer 400+ miles once. We made it, even got us out of a few tight spots I inadvertently almost got stuck in taking a wrong turn. The point about knowing your tow rig and capacity is important. My vehicle has a factory installed “tow package”, meaning it has the wiring for a trailer brake controller, if I need it installed, but I have to put it in myself, and it came with a hitch. The baffling part is that my truck engine is rated to tow 10,400 pounds, which is my make and model’s “towing capacity”, *however*, Dodge slapped a factory hitch that maxes out at 5000 pounds on it. I’m guessing they expected most people to tow an occasional cargo trailer and called it good enough. So I can either try to find something that sleeps 6 under 4000 pounds, or go for a retrofit hitch upgrade and have most compact double axle trailers available to choose from. Or buy a bigger truck.
There are a lot of baffling mismatches in the automotive side of things as well as you have seen. Though it’s an unpopular opinion in my industry I am also a fan of having an RV inspected before you take things home.
Super advice, Josh! 🍺😋👍 I'd like to add one tip that I apply when making any large purchase. It works exceptionally well when buying vehicles, trailers, boats, etc... In fact, you mentioned it once, quite a while back: Never discuss financing, until you've agreed upon the price! Meaning the final price. If anyone so much as brings up the subject of financing, simply inform them that you'll discuss financing, once you know exactly what you're going to purchase. Doing this can often save you thousands of dollars, because salespeople want to slip in all sorts of extra things that you really don't need.
Good tip Mick. You made me think of "standard equipment." Josh touched on it with his "does it come with a battery" comment. It seams like lots of RV dealers are in the process of assembling the RV's they receive. I've wondered how does one know what equipment comes standard, which could add up to thou$ands of additional costs. The unscrupulous salesman might just try selling an option that's really standard equipment.
@@richgran For 1st time RV buyers, that's definitely something that unscrupulous salespeople can exploit. I'd recommend checking with the manufacturer's website; and if it doesn't clarify it there, contact the manufacturer directly to ask what comes as standard equipment with that specific model the salesperson showed you. If you tell a manufacturer that they quoted _"options"_ X, Y and Z as extra $$$... and the manufacturer tells you that only option Z is extra $... that's when the fur flies. I can tell you that a certain chain of *Camping* & RV stores on this side of the *World* are well-known for being unscrupulous, but I don't think that I should come out and say their name, out of respect for Josh and his Team, who have a good reputation, from what I can see. If you look closely though... you might be able to figure out which chain I'm referring to. (Clues above)
Try it out in your yard 1st work everything. Sleep in it a few nights. Take it out and practice driving, parking. Go to safe places you feel comfortable with. Spend a few nights at the closest RV park. You can learn everything on RUclips an amazing resource. You're gonna have to be handy and learn how to fix things especially if you're full timing which is what most of this comment is geared at. You're gonna need a good sway hich, Learn about payload calculate your trailer weight. You need good tire presser monitors surge protector, sewer hose,water hose, tire blocks,leveling blocks, water filter system, tool box, and many other products to maintain your RV. You must learn to deal with things as they happen it'll all be worth it if this is your type of lifestyle.
We have been doing research getting ready buy a camping trailer and your videos have been so incredibly helpful! Really appreciate you and Bish for doing these videos, thank you!
I am going to be in the market in a year or so. I’ve always appreciated your humor and candor. I’ll be sure to check out Bish’s when I take the plunge.
Good video. As you said many times, it is shocking how few people want to admit they don't know stuff and won't ask questions. Financing. Yuck! I hate to see people finance a "luxury" item be it an RV, new truck, or UTV. We should finance necessities like a home and then save for luxuries. Of course nine of us do that which is why most of us are broke. In case you can't tell...I am anti debt. I have never bought a new RV because of the depreciation factor. I have owned 4 and 3 of them were from older couples that were getting out if the hobby. 2 were Nascar fans that got tired if Nascar as their favorite drivers retired. We used to go to several races each year. Talladega in July was always fun! 150 degrees before solar options were even available so every MH had a generator.
You made so many amazing valid points. I am in the process of using a PT job to save money on the side, and buys a smaller pull behind, (in all cash) - I am very new to the world of RVs. Not camping, not sleeping in small spaces, not traveling , but RVs in general. Thank you for this wonderful video.
Great Tips Josh!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 A quick note to all management at Bish's or any other RV Dealer, I won't an RV unless Josh has Reviewed it! The information Josh puts out is So Criticality important to your businesses and the potential buyer. Josh I had a couple good experiences in my little brother's RV, B4 his divorce he set up the big yard on the property they managed as my own place, my own space and he also taught me quite a bit about RV features and functions and even shared with me his own tips on what bto look for, some even We're your same exact tips!👍👍👍👍👍
Put money down: This one hits home for me. We actually got denied financing because we wanted to put so much down that the bank said the loan wasn't worth their time. Ticked us off, so next time I enter a dealer lot I will put 100% down.
Your channel helped me out a ton. I am about to go buy an rv today and you have so many useful videos. As soon as I found a floor plan I liked I did research on it and now I’m doing research on purchasing the rv. Thanks for all the hard work!
Thank you for the information. My wife and I are about to purchase our first camper. All the points you gave will be extremely useful. Have a blessed day.
This is why I watch you Josh. You discuss things that other RV dealership don't. Being fair and honest about your experiences gives me a better insight when I go to purchase one. Maybe one day I'll find my way to Bishes. Who knows. Thanks and keep up the good work.
If going for a bumper-pull crawl under your vehicle and look at the actual weight ratings on your vehicle's hitch. The maker of my pickup truck claims that my truck specifically can tow up to 11,900 lb, but the hitch that is actually installed on my truck has a max rating of 5,000 lb if I am not using weight distribution, and 11,000 lb if I am using weight distribution. This is significantly less than what the vehicle itself is rated to pull.
Really really great info!!!Wish I was watching this last year. Though I know this is a new video. Yes ask questions! Like "where's the inverter for the solar panel you installed?" and they look at you like your crazy until they find out you know what you're talking about. Thanks Josh! BTW where can we give you a review?
My wife and I bought an old camper(1982 coachman) last year. We fixed it a up a little bit so we didn't have much money into a 22ft trailer. We have camped 10 times this summer with it and now we know what we really want when we buy new for next year. We have nailed down the Floorplan we want and features we want. We also know our budget now.
This video is the best, thank you so much! We're planning to buy in the next six months and I legit am considering road tripping to a Bish's from Texas to do business with y'all (if these damn gas prices will ever go down). Keep the awesome coming and we'll keep watching! 🙂
I’m inLouisiana and will definitely go to Texas to a Bishs location , and I am planning on buying in the next four months, so spill the beans , where and when ?
@@JoshtheRVNerd Josh, ALL of your videos are (as I stated before in my comments) very informative and certainly very, very helpful. Ron (“in Utah”) 😎🇺🇸
I really appreciate this so much. I have owned two trailers. It’s been a few years, and now I am looking again. This info really helps me feel more confident as I am looking again.
Josh, I've been watching your videos with so much enthusiasm and interest. I'm going to be a first-time buyer and all the tips you've mentioned have been invaluable and amazing. I'm feeling more confident with each video I watch as I ger closer to making a purchase. I'll have a list of questions to ask the seller when I'm ready to purchase my first RV and have my phone out to video the walk through. :) Thanks. You're awesome.
The fact that you were allowed to shoot and publish this insightful video says a LOT about the integrity at Bish's!
This Bish really knows his stuff
I will buy my RV from Bishs thx to Josh.
Hmmm. No tip on negotiating price? Or did I miss it?
I’ve already decided I’m buying my first RV from Bish’s
@@richardgeslain9308a given
We hired an inspector here in California and it was a $500 ~ totally worth it. In our case, it was the 2022 A class motorhome, and there were issues that we would not have otherwise known about. We were able to bring that to the dealers attention and get that fixed at no extra cost to ourselves. In the end, the inspector cost paid for itself.
Ty for the insight. May I ask the type/size of the camper inspected? Curious about cost vs. size
My inspection was $500 for a 5 1/2 hr inspection. Worth the peace of mind
Wow that seems SUPER fair..
We paid 650.00 for an inspection and found out there was water damage and the electrical system was faulty. We passed. Feel like the inspection saved us money in the long run. Still shopping.
Ty for sharing
Who do you get to inspect a rv?
I hired a private inspector when I bought my NEW 2020 Kodiak qb. I paid him $250., he spent 2.5 hours on it. They fixed 3 minor issues and I bought it. To everyone……Josh is right on point!! This is valuable information. Take it!
Actual experience!! Ty for sharing Lori!!
Wow! I never thought of using an inspector for a brand new unit that shouldn’t have any issues.
Where do I find am inspector?
Last year when working at a campground in Montana, we had a young male solo camper come in with one of those rented Class Cs. Outside staff guided him into his site, he stayed a day and then came into the office saying he was done with camping. I asked if there was anything we could do to help or solve a problem and he said, no, that after 10 days of rving, he had just decided it wasn't for him. He didn't like driving it around, every campground had different rules and different connection set ups. At every campground something went wrong with the rv (I tried to explain to him that sometimes the rental class c rvs are rented out so fast that a flaw or need for maintenance could be overlooked but might be just simple fixes) I again asked if there was anything we could do to help him out. He said he didn't like the work of setting up, he'd rather be in a hotel where all he had to do to get rid of his $hit was to push a lever and it was done, no sewer tank to worry about along with other comments about rving vs staying in a hotel. He brought in cases of water, a brand new cooler, two cannisters of bear spray and other equipment. He said to give it away for him because he was done. Just done. Even when outside staff went over to talk to him, he was polite but again said he was just done with rving. Expensive and sad lesson to learn but at least not as expensive as buying one and then deciding it wasn't for him.
He was a first time camper and found out it's not for him. I've been camping for years in a tent and as I get older it gets harder to sleep on mats and or cots. If ever I get an Rv and someday I will, I will feel like this guy would feel sleeping in a 5 star hotel.
@@gino82524 Some of what this guy did not like are some of the things I desperately want to travel in myRV. Thinking and prepin' my little car for campin'.
At least he didn’t buy it
Nice comment very honest it can be a hassle for some people. To each his own.
That was smart of him to rent before buying. His loss was just that of the rental and the rest he donated to other campers. He could go home and call it a done and dusted, a one and done. I think a lot of people just went forth and bought head first. Then they get it home and that is where it stays. I have a friend that bought one, a really nice one (used) during the height of buying rv's. She had and her husband had big plans and I think used it once then decided it was too difficult to set up. She didn't like the manual levels, she decided the decor was rather dull. Camping was boring unless you were into some outdoor sports that kept you busy. So its been sitting in their lawn now for a year I guess and now they are selling it. So they bought the camper to use once.
You've won me over 💯. When I buy an RV, I'm gonna book a room near Bish's and work with your salespeople. The whole idea that Bish's has you represent them & put out these vids? You brand the company as honest, dependable, fun, hard working, and fair. I appreciate the RV tours you give (thorough & honest) as well as the industry knowledge you share. In this tech age, when us middle aged and younger folks are doing most things by social media, I wonder if Bish's understands how far-reaching these videos are? Whether they do or don't understand the golden egg you (Josh) are laying, this marketing is stellar. A lot of future sales (including mine) will be because of the work you've put in to grow this channel.
Man.. thank you so much for sharing something kind this morning. It's always so greatly appreciated
Have owned 36ft toyhaualer since 2017, lived in an airstream excella 500 for 3 years. ANYONE wanting to buy and rv needs to lookup Steve Lehto youtube video on buying an rv today. Be careful what you sign for at purchase!!!!
All excellent advice. Personal story. Partner had a trailer, decided we wanted a motorhome. When we purchased the motorhome, we had it inspected (cost $250 in 2015) found 3 minor issues. The coach only had 45,000 miles on it. Also had it inspected by a mechanic (and I'd been one for 25 years) - both inspectors were followed by the dealerships service manager. We added up the costs. Then went for the deal - either take care of the items or reduce the price from which we had offered - your choice - - - they reduced the price and did all the work, we had some items added and changed, they did the additional at cost. On a Motorhome - - - demand you take it for a test drive especially if it's used. When we managed a campground for the county it was amazing how many had just bought - - then said they wished they had bought uses or rented first. They ended up not liking features - - - also we purchased an "extended Warranty/Service policy from USAA as well as RV insurance. So that is out there but KNOW who you''re buying from and reputation. PS. We paid cash - - sold it 5 years later for what we paid, yes it was that clean. Keep up the good work Josh.
Great i shall do that test ride
It worked so well for you! I went to an RV show this winter and people were just buying buying buying. It kind of annoyed me because there is NO reason for the dealers to work any deal with you if they know the next person that comes along with just pay for it, no questions...just buy it before the next person buys it. Those 'last one' deals.. I have been looking at Rvs off and on for years now. Never found the 'perfect' one for me. Size, weight, auto leveling, right price... never found one that fit into that box I created for myself. I had no intentions of buying an RV at the RV show but I wanted to see what was out there. I mean, A frames for 30 grand????? Pop up campers in the uppers teens to low 20s???? I am always gobsmacked and what people are willing to pay. Will see where this all goes.
Josh as an RV inspector I am seeing several dealerships who are charging the customer for what the dealer is calling an inspection. So, the dealer does their PDI and charges the customer an extra fee. I have heard dealers charging anywhere from $500 to over $1000 for the dealer to inspect the RV. I had a client where the dealer wanted to charge him a non-refundable inspection fee provided the RV passed the dealer inspection. Other things dealers have tried include having the client sign a waiver that they will pay for anything the inspector breaks. Any certified inspector will have liability insurance. In my case it is a million dollar policy.
This is absolutely awesome information and I really appreciate you sharing this with everyone. I’ll never claim to know everything and I certainly don’t get it all right. Anytime you’d like to share some insights, even if they’re contrary to what I might think or say on a video, then please do so
Getting people REAL Information is really my goal here
If you are a new or seasoned RV'R, pay attention to this video. Josh is on point and I agree with him. I have learned a lot from him and I hope he doesn't get his feathers ruffled when I call things out about builds. Love you NERD.
TY Buddy. I appreciate all you questions/comments as well. You're critical but always reasonably so with very fair questions/points of concern. YOU keep it coming too :)
There are times I wish I could give a content creator two thumbs up, and this is one of them. Thank you for this! Well done!
wow TY
One other comment about getting an RV inspector: The inspector works for you, not the dealership or owner of the rig. The report goes to you, the customer who is paying the inspector. A legitimate inspector will not automatically give that inspection report to anyone else. If the dealership wants a copy of the inspection report they must get it from you, the person who paid the inspector. Anyone who tells you otherwise has something shady going on. You are not under any obligation to provide the full report to anyone, however, if there are items flagged for repair or replacement you may need to share those parts of the report with the dealership so they understand exactly what needs attention.
Good insight Anne, thank you 👍
Such valuable information. We’re 1st timers…found an RV but when the dealer didn’t want a private inspector we left. We realized that where we purchase can be just as important as what we purchase. Your truthfulness gives me hope that we may still be able to find somewhere reliable with something we want. Appreciate all the tips! In my opinion you give the best detailed videos and the most valuable information!! 💯👍
I also agree!😊😊👍👍👍👍👍
"Where we purchase can be just as important as what we purchase"
*OH. MY. GOSH!* I wish more people could understand this!!
What was the price range of the inspector? And which company did you go through?
@@muzerhythm2242 other comments have mentioned around 3-500
@@muzerhythm2242 just in the process now. Because we’re extreme newbies and planning to make a couple cross country trips we requested more than the usual inspection. We are also asking for a basic repair instructions. Like if something leaks and we have to go thru the underbelly, roof leaks, sticky slides. This is being done separate from the on site inspection. Because of this our cost is above the normal. But the average quote varied for type,lengths and time spent. The general quote for our used 33 ft 5th wheel was between $500 to $1200 depending on how in-depth/time it takes. Our RV inspection was thru BluCat RV Servies, LLC in Louisville. Hope that helps!
Also if going for a bumper pull and planning on getting a weight distribution hitch: if the trailer comes with such a hitch, like mine did, lift it yourself and make sure you can actually manage putting it in place and putting it away. They can be very heavy.
If you are buying new or plan on buying a new weight distribution hitch go to a reputable hitch store and talk to them about the different hitches, preferably before you buy the bumper pull trailer, and again lift the hitches and make sure you will be able to manage them.
I can manage mine, but when my arthritis flares up it gets iffy.
Hey y'all, I've posted a lot of comments here about my personal experience in shopping for and buying a camper. My husband and I spent a full year making a decision. We watched Josh's videos for a year, we shopped various vendors in our area (Texas) and we literally spent an entire YEAR to make a decision. We did the same thing when we bought our home. It's a BIG investment. We've owned multiple pleasure items,(4 boats, jet skis, 4 wheelers) so when we decided to buy a 'tiny home' for vacationing in and use as a weekend getaway, we did our research and came up with the very best plan for our future. The camper we bought was NOTHING that I ever expected to buy, but I'm SO HAPPY that we bought a TOY HAULER. I would have NEVER thought we'd get a toy hauler, but it turned out to be PERFECT for us!
It's really important to get what you want in life and NOT live with regrets, so, as Josh says, use your common sense, and if you're not sure, hire a professional to inspect what you are trying to make your 'happy place' in your life.
Wow.. congratulations on your RV btw! My wife is similar in how she really deep dives into things before just pulling triggers (something that's served our family quite well more than once!)
If you haven't done so, then I'd sure appreciate a quick review at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review in return for the help hand along the way but more than anything I hope to continue seeing you here sharing your wisdom and insights as an owner
What kind of RV exactly did you get btw?
Josh I got to say that you're pretty awesome and last year when you said that it was changing over to a different company I was scared that we were going to lose you and I'm so glad that we're not because I've learned so much from you and I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart you are an amazing person and keep up the good work and God bless you
My sentiments as Well. Josh stay Safe and God Bless You!🙏🙏🙏
Josh you are a good man!😊😊👍👍👍👍👍
Hear hear!! 3 cheers for Josh!
Uncle Josh IS MOST CERTAINLY "The Bob Vila" of the RV world-just like Bob is "The Uncle Josh" of the home improvement world! That is a fact, Jack! 😊
@@ScarletKnightmare 😊👍👍👍👍👍
@@moe.cabrera I agree!😊👍👍👍👍👍
Borrow/rent is big! We were able to borrow my in-laws trailer for a "trial run" trip. We had fun, but also learned a lot about what we need to function well and comfortably
You learn SO MUCH even by one trip
I've been living in a 30 ft RV for 6 years and I love it. I've saved myself so much money. I rent a space in a RV Park and considering buying a newer one because the one I have is about 18 years old.. that I remodeled and replaced a few things. Bust still it's been great.
Sounds like you must really take care of it
Wow, and I’m tripping over the RV that I’m about to purchase;it’s 13 years old and it’s in pretty good shape. Still in all that isn’t to say that I don’t need a inspection because I do😮
Speaking to your point on hiring an RV inspector before purchase: ABSOLUTELY YES!
When I found a trailer that I was interested in I hired a certified inspector to give it a thorough going over before purchase. It cost me over $700, but considering I was going to spend over $20,000 I figured it was a worthwhile expense. And yes indeed, it was. (Cost of the inspection is at least partially dependent upon size and complexity of the rig they will be inspecting.)
While my inspector did not find any problems that caused me to walk away from the trailer immediately, he did find several issues, some of which were life safety issues (sneaky little things easily overlooked, but that could pose a real danger). I was buying from a dealership, buying a used rig, and they claimed to have done their PDI. They did not catch these life safety issues. I told them all of the flagged items had to be fixed or replaced or I would not buy the trailer. The dealership did not argue, and agreed to fix or replace all of them.
One of the reasons I bought from this dealership was because when I initially visited them and asked them about bringing in my own third party inspector they were all for it. Other dealerships I had visited and asked the same question of either waffled a bit and hemmed and hawed, or in the case of one dealership actually tried to actively discourage me from bringing in an inspector of my own. I promptly decided that that particular dealership would not get another visit from me even if they got in the perfect trailer.
The inspector's report is very detailed and thorough for whatever they are able to test. Able to test is the key here. They need to be able to run all of the different systems in order to test them. However they usually cannot drive an RV or tow a trailer, so there will be elements of it that they won't be able to inspect. After I bought my trailer I took it to a local hitch and trailer shop near my home and had them do a separate inspection of the bits that make it a trailer, especially the brakes. I got a good report and advice on when to expect certain work to need to be done, especially on the brakes.
For finding a certified inspector the national RV inspectors association, NRVIA, is one source. I believe they are based in Texas, but their inspectors can be found all over the 48 contiguous states at least. There might be another inspector credentialing organization out there, but I do not know of one at this time offhand. Please do web searches to find out more.
TY Anne. I hope more people read this
@@JoshtheRVNerd could you please do some videos regarding:
*the pros and cons of fifth wheel versus bumper pull,
*whether anti sway and weight distribution can be added to fifth wheel hitches and if so how, and
*would a fifth wheel be easier to manage hooking up and unhooking as people age and get creaky?
While I believe I'll be able to manage lifting and shoving my weight distribution hitch for my bumper pull for a few years yet I do wonder how the situation will change as I get older. I don't want a motorized RV, so would a fifth wheel be a better option?
* Perhaps to address one concern of mine regarding motorized RVs, how about a video discussing different motorized RV classes and the protections in place for the driver and front seat passenger, any other passengers, and securing contents of the RV in the case of accidents and rollovers? What turned me against motorized RVs for myself was seeing the aftermath of accidents along the highway, where it was clear that the second row of seats was in the crushed section, and lots of debris flew forward into the driving cab.
@@annej5699 man great ideas. I do have one here for you m.ruclips.net/video/0CLhcR4GW_M/видео.html
Trailer definitely easier to manage as you age btw
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Haven't bought or owned a travel trailer yet but currently shopping around... for used, but via a dealership (for financing) but one RV service center (not affiliated with the selling dealership... duh) quoted me $400 for a comprehensive total inspection ( in the PNW - eastern WA, N Idaho area).
Ty for sharing that
I used to work on boats with grad students when I was an undergrad. We had an opening/closing checklist to go over EVERY SINGLE TIME we used a boat to make sure the boat was safe and fully functional before we got 2 miles off the coast, plus we kept a log of the checklist and all repairs/maintenance done (even when we filled up gas and the cost!) in a handy dandy binder. I plan on creating a similar checklist for my future full-time RV. I don't want to take the chance of doing something stupid because I'm tired after hauling a big baddie 5th wheel across 4 states in a day to my next job assignment.
Smart thing to do!
Hope you'll share your checklist. Maybe submit it to Josh to publish on this channel 🤔
Will you make it shareable?
As our family considers buying our very first travel trailer, I've been doing a lot of research, and your channel has really helped me out, Josh. Thanks so much for helping me demystify this process a little.
Glad to be of service! Hope it helps :)
I Love Josh, is honesty and transparency is unmatched..... I've learned so much from him.
Wow.. ty so much for this
Great tips! When I was in car sales and was demo'ing a car to a customer that was looking at a car at another dealership, I would actually tell and educate them on specific questions to ask the other dealership about their car, dealership, and service after the sale.
Build value in yourself as a sales rep, your dealership, and your willingness to help them get the right vehicle. It made for a great relationship and referrals.
Great video. And I totally agree, the payload capacity of our truck was something that THANKFULLY our dealer was very thorough with investigating before they sold us our current trailer. It was fine for the smaller rig we had before, but thankfully we upgraded to a bigger truck before we bought our WhiteHawk. The dealership was very thorough, I appreciate them for that.
That's NICE to hear actually Debbie! Sadly, that's not always the case.
And please feel free to share the dealership's name. I'm not one of those guys that gets ruffled about that stuff. If they earned praise, then share it! :)
@@JoshtheRVNerd lol I wasn't sure if I could share or not, so thank you. It was Broadmoor RV in Pasco, WA. Again, they were very adamant about checking if our rig could handle it. And truthfully, I'd still like a bigger truck but ours does just fine lol.
My husband did a lot of research on a good towing truck that could pull almost any trailer before we even started looking for our first trailer. I am so glad he did because I know someone who did zero research and they bought a huge 5th wheel with three slides. The dealership never talked with them about their truck and it can’t haul it! Now they are stick with a trailer they can’t pull and they can’t afford another truck. Bad situation!
@@dianneschuring1323 That is terrible!
Great advice as usual. As a 25 year RV owner, I would also add floor plan, floor plan, floor plan. We have had trailers for as long as 14 years when the floor plan worked for our family and as short as 1 year when it did not.
Yep, Take your time looking at floorplans! Great advice!
Also, really try out the furniture. Are you actually going to be comfortable sitting at that dinette long enough to eat or work on the computer? Give the beds a try, and lay on them for at least 15 minutes, just like they recommend you do when buying a new bed. While these might not be as comfy as in a house, it's at least good to know ahead of time if they are too uncomfortable or too tight.
Listen and learn again and again EVEN if old timer. I started with large Apache pop ups' in the 80's towing behind a 4 banger turbo and a 6 banger had three and all sold fast Why all plastic folded like a deck of cards and no drying time if in a rainstorm during the weekend. What you learn is speed limits during towing very important with any trailer. Best advice is rent before buying, first no matter the rig big or small all is a lot of WORK!!! Yes hours of setup and take down remembering steps and wondering if you forgot something!!! Think a weekend start is after work Friday getting a hundred miles before dark praying for no rain and an hour + to setup, then maybe a sunset or dinner over a fireplace or grill if room for it then clean up a shower before bed. Sat. wake up again grill work for breakfast/cleanup, 2 hours till lunch grill again cleanup maybe 3 or 4 hours till dinner grill again/ clean up an hour of play then shower, sleep, Sunday breakfast grill work then check out time 11am pack up tear down check double check all is in place the the 2 hr drive home back in rig setup for storage, take in duty chotches and stuff again supper stove time dishes ect shower before bed back to monday work . Even if a 3 or 4 day weekend just longer - Guy stuff to do, lady does way more ran even more washing clothes every night till Friday and it starts all over. It will also cost $1K for all extra stuff to make the work seem easier. A rig is work not play think about it. You will do this over and over for 10 years or so because it is not paid for yet. Forgot you may have to store it when home so load up and unload time before and after, just zoom zoom time!!! Yep 4 decades of fun!!!
Regarding batteries and spare tires and propane tanks and other such external gear: oftentimes the dealerships will remove those and put them into storage for safekeeping because RVs left out on a lot often have these items stolen from them. Pay very close attention to make sure they replace these items with the proper items. One of the things flagged in my inspection was the missing spare tire, even though I told them ahead of time I wanted the spare tire available at the time of inspection. They agreed to supply the spare tire when I purchased the trailer because they failed to get it out in time for the inspector. I did not think to check the spare that they gave me, and that tire is rated with a Max pressure lower than the recommended tire pressure for my trailer. In effect I ended up with a donut, so I will need to replace that tire soon, simply because it wasn't available for the inspector to check and I didn't think to check it myself before purchase of the trailer.
If it was a new RV, that spare rim & tire should be replaced by the dealer or the factory. We once bought new out of state, and learned we had the wrong spare when we got home (5 lug vs 6 lug), I phoned the factory and they shipped me a new rim/tire assembly and didn't want the old one back!😎
@@seagullm6string It was a used trailer. Basically they didn't keep track of which spare went with which trailer, so they just threw one on.
You have a great recording personality!
Well ty!
All good advice. My first camper, I pretty much had to rebuild. This helps because you know how to fix anything and know how almost everything works. The saying I've heard about owning an RV is you either need to be handy or need to be patient. I wasn't able to buy a used because of the floorplan issue. It was a floorplan that had only been out a couple of years and it wasn't until later that anybody else built similar. Good luck with the inspector. I contacted 2 inspectors listed in the area, neither replied. The dealership was ok with the inspector but they were going to require I pay for any time they had to dedicate to the inspection. I was my own inspector but because I had built a camper, I knew what to look for. I was using my camera to video my walk through....I wasn't paying attention and the camera went to sleep so I lost about 3/4 of the walk through. I was ok without the inspector because Josh the RV Nerd told me that the brand I was buying had a history of being well made. (He wasn't the only one to say that) Another advantage of buying new compared to used is insurance. My insurance has a lot more advantages/perks to new campers than used.
Good input and insight here Gregory. TY Sir
Honestly Josh this is great advice for all RV buyers!
TY Joe! I hope it helps some folks!!
My mom just bought a minnie winnie earlier this year and the inspection was 400
TY David - super helpful and seems reasonable
Wow. It never occurred to me an RV park would turn away a customer because of the age of the vehicle. That's a huge deal if you're looking to stay in them and buying a used RV. I was looking at older ones as a long-term commitment but thinking of doing a mix with staying a RV parks and camping. That's something important to think about.
No it’s “mainly” for RVs with an engine.. I have a 20 year old camper and I have never ever got turned down
Josh, Ron (“in Utah”) here. I have watched many of your videos in the past few months and want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for your honesty, integrity & empathy for your fellow man! We used to have a one-year-old class A National RV SeaBreeze 30 foot RV on a Ford chassis & loved it. Medical issues caused us to sell it, & I am exploring the possibility of purchasing another RV of some type. Keep up your great, very informative videos! (( Folks, Please Consider Thanking Josh by purchasing him a “Thanks.” Very easy, just push that button & buy him a coffee, or lunch ‼️😀 ))
TY Ron. Very kind of you!
Another thing to add is the length! The model number of the RV doesn't necessarily mean the length. If it says like 2400BH or whatever, the 24 doesn't mean total length. The main "house" might be 24 ft but from bumper to hitch you're probably looking at closer to 28ft. Something to consider if you're concerned about the length. Keep up the good work! Love your videos.
Truth! I talk about that here ruclips.net/video/X8iw4LMVJk0/видео.html
Yep! Took me 6 months to figure out the model number did not represent actual length 90% of the time! Still now I’d say 90% of RV reviews on RUclips fail to mention actual tip to toe numbers.
Josh, thanks for all the great information! I'm new to the idea of an RV and am grateful for people like you who are in the industry and are willing to help folks like me who know nothing about RV buying! 😍
Another great and helpful video, Josh!
My parents gave me their motorhome when they got to the age it time to "pack it in." It was a 36' 1999 Bounder. We used it for a couple of years and enjoyed it. But due to illness, we had to stop and I sold it. To make a long story short, I decided I am ready to start RVing again.
The tips you list are great. Because of prior ownership, I've covered the first couple. I put enough money down to cover the taxes and the add on accessories. The dealership provided a detailed list of what comes with the Jayco: a battery, cleaned and prepped, full LP tanks and a walk through at delivery. What I had not thought of was Tip 7, record it! I will do that and will also record the questions and answers that come up.
Thanks again!
Man glad to hear you’re on the mend!!
This company earned my trust just for letting whoever works there give transparent advices toward buying this RV trailer campers.
Jonathan.. man.. thank you for taking the time to offer something kind today. It means a lot
An RV inspection can cost from $300 up to $1000+ depending on the type of RV.
Could save you thousands $$
TY for this. It FEELS like the kind of thing where the juice may be worth the squeeze
Make sure it is a good, certified inspector. Really worth the $$, even on a new rig. If buying from dealer, make sure they "allow" inspectors... if not, find a new dealer.
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Do you have any links or contacts? Any personal experiences dealing with inspectors?
We appreciate your videos and especially appreciate your opinions.
We have been watching you for some time now. With all our “uncle Josh” knowledge tucked under our belt we went off shopping. We still don’t own an rv. We were able to walk away and not give our money to someone who wouldn’t have passed your integrity standards.
Thanks so much for all you do.
Big hugs for saving us 1000s
Such great advice! I've watched so many of your videos and I continue to learn new things. We bought our first TT this year and didn't hire an independent inspector. Luckily we haven't had any major issues other than the propane quick connect recall issue and the black tank pull lever sticks. 🙄 I have a little bit of advice - Purchase from a dealer as close as possible to where you live. Makes it so much easier if for any reason you need warranty or recall work done on your rig. Also, when looking at towing capacity always call the manufacturer of your vehicle! Give them your VIN number and they can look up your specific model and give exact towing number. Keep in mind that most towing capacity in your manual or the sticker inside the driver door (CCC) does not include a full tank of gas. Towing capacity on my Toyota Tundra is reduced by 400 lbs with a full tank
Also very helpful, thank you for sharing 😊😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Also check the weight limits on the hitch itself on your vehicle. You might have to crawl under the vehicle in order to see this, but it is important. What your vehicle will actually handle is no more than the lowest limit of all the different parts of the systems. Sometimes people forget to check the hitch.
Good point. I didn't think about the distance of the dealership for needed repairs or warranty issues. I am willing to travel all the way up north to get a rig. I may need to re-consider.
@@latonyasaffor152 Yes, you may want to! We just had to take our rig back to our dealer 4 hours away- 8 round trip for warranty work! Our propane furnace quit working the last day of our late fall camping trip - 😬 We also had them change our blank tank valve that kept sticking and a USB port wasn't working, so the 8 hour drive wasn't just for one thing haha 🤷 They had the work finished in a week and a half , so add another 8 hours to pick it up and we stayed in a hotel near our dealer Ansley RV in PA the night before to break up the trip before picking it up.
I RV’d with my parents for years but never owned my own RV. These are very good points to remember when buying! I will definitely rent before I buy just to make sure this is what I want. Yes, set up is a real hassle for some people but I find it a small price to pay considering the enjoyment I get out of it. New subscriber here! Thanks for the great info!
My pleasure
This is great advice Josh even for us not so newbies There's always room for more learning. I appreciate all your upfront honesty. Thanks for the video
God bless you Josh for help everyone the way that you do. We have a small RV van but looking to get a 5th wheele down the road and your information videos are a huge blessing to us. Thank you for your honesty. Your extremely helpful and knowledgeable it’s making it easier for us to do our research. This will be a big purchase for us thinking about what type of truck we’re gonna need and the type of fifth wheel your videos are helping us with so much. Also getting an understanding about how much we need to start saving up now. God bless you, thank you again so much, hope to work with you once we are ready.
Just the fact that you said, "You did the Ric Flair WOOOO!" so enthusiastically made me a subscriber. We're in the market for a unit next spring.
lol :)
Eeeeew Josh so glad that I ran across your video because I see so many mistakes that I would have made had I purchased the RV I was looking at two years ago. I've wanted one of these since the 80s but life happened. I've been looking at them but I became a care giver for both my parents and then Covid. The last of my parents are deceased so I got thrust into a living situation to where my interest in a RV is strong ,thank you for honesty because I'm realizing that a couple of places were trying me to rush into a purchase I didn't feel comfortable purchasing
Man I’m really sorry to hear about your family and I commend you for your dedication to them. I have literally thousands of videos here and hope they find you additional benefit
@@JoshtheRVNerd thank you so much for the response. I definitely will be checking out your videos because I want one and glad I didn't rush into buying the one I saw 2 years ago
Thank you for your candid advice. I am by nature a person who asks thorough questions before I invest my money, and it is refreshing to hear someone who understands a buyer like me. I hope there is a dealer near my in my country who feels the way you do.
There definitely does seem to be an overall feeling in the industry of “push the customer to buy it now now now.“ That’s just never how I’ve been comfortable operating. I feel strongly if we find you the right one, then you’ll have a better experience and be more likely to recommend returns and referrals to us which is truly how I think we grow our business
Hi, thanks for your great honest content. Wanted to say in this video I especially liked your comments on tow vehicle. We just recently purchased a used rv. While looking found one online that was interested in at a used rv dealership and with asking questions to make sure my truck could tow it. They basically said if have 3/4 ton or better then good, had no idea of camper weight, GVWR, or hitch weight and couldn't care less. Said they just sale them then its the buyers responsibility to find out. I agree in the end it's the buyer responsibility but that tells me all I needed to know about them as a dealer.... run...
Yeah, I really dislike business being conducted that way, but it is annoyingly common
Dude, your videos are freaking incredible! I've been working in tech for years, and honestly, your stuff just blew my mind! 🤯
So true!
wow.. thank you. I try to be fair and appreciate you taking a moment to share something kind like this
Our first buying experience 7 years ago as it relates to this advice.
1) We tent camped for years with family that had RVs. We knew we wanted one for sure.
2) Talked to salesman in person but he kinda oversold our trucks towing capability
3) Trailer was 5 years old financed at 5.49% for 10 years on $10k sale price
4) No inspection. Big fail. There were active leaks and water damage
5) I didn't ask anything. I was clueless. Inclided most things to get started (RV starter kit). Had to pay extra for a brake controller and a WDH I didnt realize I needed.
7) $2500 down
7) Didn't record our walk-through. We camped with family on our first trip and they were very helpful.
8) No questions asked. Too excited.
I could have done a lot better and we lost a lot of money on the deal. I have since bought 2 new trailers, most recently a 2022 Rockwood MiniLite 2507s
Man.. sorry to hear all this. If you’re a member of any sort of camping groups, then please consider sharing this video to maybe help someone else avoid some of those pitfalls
I bought a/an class B+/-C Sprinter based motor home. Glad I did, but the inspections after the fact were not cheap.
The dealer included 48 point inspection was a joke. I had to ask the guys to check tire pressures and every tire was soft. A few other things with the 'dealer inspection'.
But I took it to another service center for the house section ($800-ish) and took it to Mercedes for the chassis section and oil change etc. ($1200). Not cheap but I went on the road for 2400 miles days later and had minimal issues.
100% agree with the inspection and learning. You are a huge, honest, resource for future RV buyers. Keep it up! You and Bisch;s are awesome!!!
Sorry you had that experience but TY for sharing
In keeping with your buying used one thing I suggest to folks is to not go big on their first trailer and to keep it simple. Most folks are unlikely to keep their first trailer for a long time as they learn more about their needs and wants. It was on our first trailer where we learned we needed a walk around bed, dry bath and a slide for more space. We decided we were not stand alone booth types and preferred a couch with TV tables but could live with either depending upon the rest of the floor plan. Likewise we prefer a full range with oven and cook top but will also be fine with a convection microwave and cook top. By keeping track of the "Wouldn't it be nice if we could ..." we learned that looking at small things like where can we install a Blu-ray player, locate our wireless router, potential spots for towel rods, etc were important to finding the best trailer for us.
Great advice
lol I just suggested this on another one of your other videos. Thanks for doing what you do.
My pleasure!
I just bought my first camper a few months back, it's small, used, and needs some minor attention but it works for me and I feel it's a great beginner camper to get my feet wet and possibly upgrade in time if camping works for me.
Thanks for sharing! I hope it treats you well as you learn your way thru the camping lifestyle! :)
Thank you! Feel better about my purchase listening to you. Just bought a 2024 Keystone Bullet Crossfire 1900RD. Doing the walk through in 3 hours. Recording!
Hope you enjoy it. If it proves handy then please drop me a quick review at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review in return for the helping hand!
Thank you for this Josh! We have camped before but are first time buyers and REALLY appreciate this!
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We bought a used pop up two years ago to see if RV-ing was even something me and my wife would enjoy and we've found we love it!!! We just sold that pop up and next spring will be looking to upgrade to a hard shell RV. Your channel has really helped me to better understand what our needs are and what would work for us! I wish i lived closer to your store!
That is awesome! Glad to be of service
Very good advice here both in the comments and by the Nerd
We actually did a lot of this moving from tent camping to glamping. Adding my .02 here
Renting -- be super careful what you rent and who you rent from/through. We used RVshare for our first(and only) rental and while the unit was nice, the folks who owned it were less than helpful in helping us hook up (they never used the weight distribution setup!!!) and a lot of things on the camper were broken when we rented. Thank goodness we did an inspection before hand and I am a bit handy and could fix on the fly. Also having the owner walk through the unit with you prior to renting will help a ton
Buying--used is for sure the best way to go and CASH is the absolute best way to go for first timers. While the market is red hot for campers understand that these are assets that depreciate and financing is going to get harder to obtain in the future. Buy em well used, old, and cheap for cash, get on YT and learn how to maintain one (videos galore out there) and start off camping cheap. If you luck out, you get a very well maintained one like we did. Otherwise, its a fixer and you put in the sweat equity to make it nice. Much like motorcycles, spend more on your gear/maintenance than the unit itself.
Maintenance--unless you have a newer camper/RV, DIY maintenance is fairly easy even for those of limited handyperson skill. Its part road vehicle (tires, axles, etc) and part house (electrical, plumbing, gas, structure). YT is definitely a friend here, search up what is or may break and there is probably 10 videos out there showing the whole diagnosis/fix process. Many even have links to get the part for cheap. Another reason to DIY is time...you can get parts cheaper but you can install ASAP vs waiting for the dealer to slot you in.
1st timer mistakes---your are going to break things, do things incorrectly that put stress on your rig, have bad hookup experiences, all things that newbies will run into just getting into RVing. But its a lot different when its on an older/used rig than on a brand spanking new one. I have broken or EOL (end of life) so many things on our camper due to my lack of knowledge/skill and its easier to tell myself/SO that it can be fixed. When you break something on that shiny new rig still under finance that warranty probably wont cover its a real day killer. We had our awning destroyed during a freak windstorm while at home trying to let it dry out...warranty wont cover that but we fixed ourselves in a day or so and saved our camping trip.
Surely there are those who will disagree and say this is bunk but this is what I have experienced so far. 20 year old camper, 10 year old truck, all fully owned. The knowledge I have gained doing my own work on it and saving money by not having payments has been invaluable. Its a project that I enjoy working on even at the campsite!
Very informative. Thank you.
Love the straight up conversation. It shows integrity and things buyers might not even think about.
I try. Ty
Excellent points Josh I agree with everything you said. I would highly agree with figuring out what your tow vehicle can handle. If you're driving down the highway with an underperforming tow vehicle it will ruin the entire experience and put you at higher risk for an accident. At that time all the other steps are moot points and I couldn't tell you how many scary setups I've seen whipping sideways down the expressway.
Man.. figure that vehicle out. For sure
RV newb here… that was a great video. Especially the “hire an RV inspector” = awesome!❤
Welcome aboard!
i was surprised by a few of these things with our first RV purchase as well, mainly the age limit at RV parks and the lesser financing options. We were able to purchase an aftermarket warranty and roadside service package with ours but with our situation, we still end up paying for repairs out of pocket and the roadside has been more useful for pulling our vehicles out of the snow. Even with our hefty down payment we still ended up walking out owing the asking price, and i still worry about us going backwards in it. It also depends on what your use case may be, our original intent was to move cross country in it and then rent it out. However, finding places to get it repaired (many service centers will only do service on vehicles they've sold right now) and paying for all the repairs to get it to pass inspection so that we could (mostly having to purchase a new set of class C tires) ended up limiting us as the warranty only covers items that aren't known at time of purchase when purchasing a as-is vehicle. Side note, even if the tread on the tires are good they're not like car tires and the life goes by the manufacture date of the tire, not the visual amount of wear. So if you plan to rent out your rig to pay for your rig there may be a few other things to consider. make sure you have the time and energy to invest into it to rent it out and you know all your available local service areas.
When financing, which FICO score is used? Auto, mortgage, or something else?
Depends on lender potentially but most rvs are based on classic auto scores
Josh, absolutely love the videos. I'd love one where you go over the things to look out for in a used rv that would be immediate and obvious red flags, such as internal wall damage that may not be super noticeable at first glance.
See here bit.ly/3CC8Fkg
Plug the RV in and feel the plug after it has been plugged in for several minutes. If the plug or the cord feels hot it's a life safety issue. Get that replaced.
I only bought and RV after first renting one for a couple of weeks. Then I got a little teardrop and few years later I decided to buy a full travel trailer. I ended up buying used, because I could get a high quality (Coachmen Apex) for a lot less than new, plus the previous owners are wonderful, loved their RV and looked after it well. Because of the lower price, I was able to get an RV that is "certified green", which is important for me, because I get an asthma attack and/or unbearably burning throat when I walk into most new RVs. I don't want to be breathing in formaldehyde when I want to be breathing fresh air.
Renting first is such a good idea. Good job
Saved this video!!! Great information. With such honesty you guys show, when we are ready in a couple years, we will travel to see you guys up there. Been watching for a couple years now ( even with the transition), it's very important to trust the dealership. We are waiting to see what has prices are going to do and pay off my truck before making more payments. I will use this indoor for sure. Thank you!!
Ty Charmaine!
I am new to RVs, great video, I am not new to people and their games and politics. I have gotten a lot out of having a technician go along with mr and the salesman. The best questions are the technical ones where their answer differ, and I already know the answer or can figure out who’s lying, who’s making things up. Answers need to make sense and not provide conflicting info. It’s always good to see how helpful
TY Kenton! Hope this helps some people :)
Hey hey Josh!!! Great information, as always, from you. Thank you for being the honest person that you are. Keeping it straight up with everyone!!!
Thanks Nerd!
I am a first time buyer and I have had two inspections now...they cost about $1200 each, plus travel fees, which were not too bad. I have to say that while the inspections were expensive, they were very educational and the inspectors were very helpful. And most importantly the inspections found things that needed to be fixed - some simple things like cracks, gaps and missing sealant and some not so simple things like on my first inspection where the electrical system kept shutting off and blowing breakers. The dealership tried to fix it, said it was fixed, but when I went to pick ip up, pop went the breaker and off went the inverter...and I walked away after a week of waiting for a fix. The second inspection found water intrusion and completely rotten slide floors (trying not to beat myself up for not noticing that!) And the dealership was not willing to fix them or budge on their price, which was already on the high side for a good quality unit...so I walked away again. The money I spent on inspection sure saved me a lot of money and headaches in both circumstances. Now I am twice bitten...four times shy? 😂 and shopping at your home store...here's hoping the 3rd time is the charm!
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#8 is great advice. I was at a (non-Bish) rv show today in a huge Vanleigh Beacon. Another couple touring the rv asked if we knew how long it was (we didn't). They saw a salesman who said "oh, it's a ***369, so that means it's 36 feet". About a minute later the couple's wife found out on her phone that it was 40ft long. Was the salesman being misleading or was he clueless to the realities of model numbers being marketing propaganda? Either way, that's not a guy who I'd be comfortable buying from.
That's exactly why I over-explain basically everything
Thank you for this. Wife and I are looking to purchase our first RV in the near future, and some of your suggestions we had not thought of.
We had already decided to purchased pre-owned for our first unit, just for the reasons you mentioned.
I’m keeping this video handy so I can refer to it when we are actually at the point of making a purchase.
Thx Ricky! Glad to be of service!
Thanks, Josh! Great info! I’m not a first time buyer, but I haven’t RV’d for a day or two, meaning a lot of years. I’m also a single, retired female. That means there are at least three things I’m worried about being taken advantage of in buying my next (3rd) RV. Plus, I don’t necessarily know what I don’t know. So your video hits home with me and I appreciate your candor. I wish I could do business with you! So thanks again.
Happy to have you here Karen. Remember when it comes to buying YOU always have the final say
Follow your gut instincts. If it smelly funny.. then it’s probably funny
Thanks so much Josh! Will be adding these tips to my RV notes. Plan to buy my first in a couple of years.
Hope they help you a bit! If so, then please consider dropping us a quick review at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review
@@JoshtheRVNerd Done!
I went to an RV fair when we had kids aged 4, 2, and 1. Had never set food in a recreational vehicle before that. We didn’t buy, but we spent a lot of time looking around, exploring layouts and options, and had a good talk with an independent RV inspector who told me to never sign the paperwork for a rig before consulting an inspector. Lots of good lessons, and better understanding of what’s available out there. It’s been 5 years and we’ve got more kids, and are starting to look at what we can fit into, and what a newbie like me can tow safely and confidently.
So far I’ve towed the largest uhaul cargo trailer 400+ miles once. We made it, even got us out of a few tight spots I inadvertently almost got stuck in taking a wrong turn.
The point about knowing your tow rig and capacity is important. My vehicle has a factory installed “tow package”, meaning it has the wiring for a trailer brake controller, if I need it installed, but I have to put it in myself, and it came with a hitch. The baffling part is that my truck engine is rated to tow 10,400 pounds, which is my make and model’s “towing capacity”, *however*, Dodge slapped a factory hitch that maxes out at 5000 pounds on it.
I’m guessing they expected most people to tow an occasional cargo trailer and called it good enough. So I can either try to find something that sleeps 6 under 4000 pounds, or go for a retrofit hitch upgrade and have most compact double axle trailers available to choose from. Or buy a bigger truck.
There are a lot of baffling mismatches in the automotive side of things as well as you have seen. Though it’s an unpopular opinion in my industry I am also a fan of having an RV inspected before you take things home.
Super advice, Josh! 🍺😋👍
I'd like to add one tip that I apply when making any large purchase. It works exceptionally well when buying vehicles, trailers, boats, etc... In fact, you mentioned it once, quite a while back:
Never discuss financing, until you've agreed upon the price! Meaning the final price. If anyone so much as brings up the subject of financing, simply inform them that you'll discuss financing, once you know exactly what you're going to purchase.
Doing this can often save you thousands of dollars, because salespeople want to slip in all sorts of extra things that you really don't need.
Good tip Mick. You made me think of "standard equipment." Josh touched on it with his "does it come with a battery" comment. It seams like lots of RV dealers are in the process of assembling the RV's they receive. I've wondered how does one know what equipment comes standard, which could add up to thou$ands of additional costs. The unscrupulous salesman might just try selling an option that's really standard equipment.
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For 1st time RV buyers, that's definitely something that unscrupulous salespeople can exploit. I'd recommend checking with the manufacturer's website; and if it doesn't clarify it there, contact the manufacturer directly to ask what comes as standard equipment with that specific model the salesperson showed you. If you tell a manufacturer that they quoted _"options"_ X, Y and Z as extra $$$... and the manufacturer tells you that only option Z is extra $... that's when the fur flies.
I can tell you that a certain chain of *Camping* & RV stores on this side of the *World* are well-known for being unscrupulous, but I don't think that I should come out and say their name, out of respect for Josh and his Team, who have a good reputation, from what I can see. If you look closely though... you might be able to figure out which chain I'm referring to. (Clues above)
Thank you for the extra tip fellow viewer!😊😊👍👍👍👍👍
@@MickPsyphon out of curiosity are you in Michigan , out west or on the East Coast?
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On the North shore of Lake Ontario
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Watch at 1.75x pretty fun time 19:36
And I thought I talked fast before..
Fantastic information. Hubby and I are going from pop up to travel trailer and this information will be invaluable. Thank you.
As always - it's my pleasure! If this proves useful, then I'd love it if you considered dropping me a quick review at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review
Try it out in your yard 1st work everything.
Sleep in it a few nights.
Take it out and practice driving, parking. Go to safe places you feel comfortable with. Spend a few nights at the closest RV park.
You can learn everything on RUclips an amazing resource.
You're gonna have to be handy and learn how to fix things especially if you're full timing which is what most of this comment is geared at.
You're gonna need a good sway hich, Learn about payload calculate your trailer weight.
You need good tire presser monitors surge protector,
sewer hose,water hose, tire blocks,leveling blocks, water filter system, tool box,
and many other products to maintain your RV.
You must learn to deal with things as they happen it'll all be worth it if this is your type of lifestyle.
We have been doing research getting ready buy a camping trailer and your videos have been so incredibly helpful! Really appreciate you and Bish for doing these videos, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
My rv is for rent at my private campsite next to my stocked half acre pond.
There are some great options out there 👍
Where is it located?
@@sherrie1956 yes I'd like to know to please😊
@@sherrie1956 central Pennsylvania north of Lancaster and a stones throw from Hershey.
I am going to be in the market in a year or so. I’ve always appreciated your humor and candor. I’ll be sure to check out Bish’s when I take the plunge.
TY! That's all we ask in return for our efforts - a fair shake at working with you
Good video. As you said many times, it is shocking how few people want to admit they don't know stuff and won't ask questions.
Financing. Yuck! I hate to see people finance a "luxury" item be it an RV, new truck, or UTV. We should finance necessities like a home and then save for luxuries. Of course nine of us do that which is why most of us are broke.
In case you can't tell...I am anti debt.
I have never bought a new RV because of the depreciation factor. I have owned 4 and 3 of them were from older couples that were getting out if the hobby. 2 were Nascar fans that got tired if Nascar as their favorite drivers retired. We used to go to several races each year. Talladega in July was always fun! 150 degrees before solar options were even available so every MH had a generator.
You made so many amazing valid points. I am in the process of using a PT job to save money on the side, and buys a smaller pull behind, (in all cash) - I am very new to the world of RVs. Not camping, not sleeping in small spaces, not traveling , but RVs in general. Thank you for this wonderful video.
My pleasure! Hope it helps :)
Great Tips Josh!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 A quick note to all management at Bish's or any other RV Dealer, I won't an RV unless Josh has Reviewed it! The information Josh puts out is So Criticality important to your businesses and the potential buyer.
Josh I had a couple good experiences in my little brother's RV,
B4 his divorce he set up the big yard on the property they managed as my own place, my own space and he also taught me quite a bit about RV features and functions and even shared with me his own tips on what bto look for, some even
We're your same exact tips!👍👍👍👍👍
Well the good news.. you have PLENTY of options lol :)
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Right on Josh👍👍👍👍👍
I really appreciate your videos. You offer a lot of comprehensive information for people like me who don't know what we don't know.
Glad to help!
Put money down: This one hits home for me. We actually got denied financing because we wanted to put so much down that the bank said the loan wasn't worth their time. Ticked us off, so next time I enter a dealer lot I will put 100% down.
Josh, you are indeed the RV Nerd! Love your videos, but that F150, 5.3, 4x4 is a unicorn in a zebra park!
Seriously, great info, as always!
Thx buddy
Wish I had heard this before we bought our first trailer. Our total camping experience would have been very different and far more enjoyable.
If you think about it, then maybe consider sharing into a social media camping group if you're in any of them to possibly help some future 1st timers!
Your channel helped me out a ton. I am about to go buy an rv today and you have so many useful videos. As soon as I found a floor plan I liked I did research on it and now I’m doing research on purchasing the rv. Thanks for all the hard work!
Glad I could help! Mind dropping me a quick review at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review In return for the helping hand?
Great information and a reminder that everyone can always learn something new. Thank you Josh.
My pleasure Geoff :)
Thank you for the information. My wife and I are about to purchase our first camper. All the points you gave will be extremely useful. Have a blessed day.
This is why I watch you Josh. You discuss things that other RV dealership don't. Being fair and honest about your experiences gives me a better insight when I go to purchase one. Maybe one day I'll find my way to Bishes. Who knows. Thanks and keep up the good work.
If going for a bumper-pull crawl under your vehicle and look at the actual weight ratings on your vehicle's hitch. The maker of my pickup truck claims that my truck specifically can tow up to 11,900 lb, but the hitch that is actually installed on my truck has a max rating of 5,000 lb if I am not using weight distribution, and 11,000 lb if I am using weight distribution. This is significantly less than what the vehicle itself is rated to pull.
Really really great info!!!Wish I was watching this last year. Though I know this is a new video. Yes ask questions! Like "where's the inverter for the solar panel you installed?" and they look at you like your crazy until they find out you know what you're talking about. Thanks Josh!
BTW where can we give you a review?
Right here! g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review
Thank you so much!!
My wife and I bought an old camper(1982 coachman) last year. We fixed it a up a little bit so we didn't have much money into a 22ft trailer. We have camped 10 times this summer with it and now we know what we really want when we buy new for next year. We have nailed down the Floorplan we want and features we want. We also know our budget now.
That’s such a smart way to go
This video is the best, thank you so much! We're planning to buy in the next six months and I legit am considering road tripping to a Bish's from Texas to do business with y'all (if these damn gas prices will ever go down). Keep the awesome coming and we'll keep watching! 🙂
Well good news - we just acquired a store in Texas!! I don’t have full details yet but stay tuned!!
@@JoshtheRVNerd YEEESSSSS. Wonderful news, it'll be a little while before we're ready to purchase anyways so maybe the stars will align. 🙂
I’m inLouisiana and will definitely go to Texas to a Bishs location , and I am planning on buying in the next four months, so spill the beans , where and when ?
@@jamesnelson8715 Longview
@@JoshtheRVNerd Longview, TX is the location? I'm in Fort Worth, that drive isn't bad at all! 🙂
Thanks!
Wow. Too kind. TY Ron
I hope this has benefitted you!
@@JoshtheRVNerd Josh, ALL of your videos are (as I stated before in my comments) very informative and certainly very, very helpful. Ron (“in Utah”) 😎🇺🇸
Excellent advice as always 👍🏼
Happy to help! Please share it into some groups if you know someone this could benefit
I really appreciate this so much. I have owned two trailers. It’s been a few years, and now I am looking again. This info really helps me feel more confident as I am looking again.
Glad it was helpful!
Props for the Rick Flair reference!! Wooooo!
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Josh, I've been watching your videos with so much enthusiasm and interest. I'm going to be a first-time buyer and all the tips you've mentioned have been invaluable and amazing. I'm feeling more confident with each video I watch as I ger closer to making a purchase. I'll have a list of questions to ask the seller when I'm ready to purchase my first RV and have my phone out to video the walk through. :) Thanks. You're awesome.
You’re welcome! Glad to have you