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  • @Geekdom101
    @Geekdom101  2 года назад +9

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    • @kingshadow8782
      @kingshadow8782 2 года назад

      Nice video Geekdom.

    • @kingshadow8782
      @kingshadow8782 2 года назад

      I really did enjoy it.

    • @kingshadow8782
      @kingshadow8782 2 года назад

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    • @shadowstorm6331
      @shadowstorm6331 2 года назад

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    • @gdup1873
      @gdup1873 2 года назад +1

      I don't agree.... Toppo did use his full power when Vegeta used his self-destructive to feat him.....he combined 2 hakai balls and activated his full God of Destruction power

  • @miyuedelfelt2676
    @miyuedelfelt2676 2 года назад +257

    What I got from it was that Toppo threw away sense of justice to gain that power, while Vegeta fully embraced who he was to get Ultra Ego, which is still my favorite form.

    • @jotaroisbestboy7593
      @jotaroisbestboy7593 2 года назад +22

      *toppo still have better design

    • @miyuedelfelt2676
      @miyuedelfelt2676 2 года назад +30

      @@jotaroisbestboy7593 I disagree, but that’s probably because Vegeta’s my favorite character in dragon ball.

    • @jotaroisbestboy7593
      @jotaroisbestboy7593 2 года назад +6

      @@miyuedelfelt2676 well this ypur opinion

    • @legendhasit6459
      @legendhasit6459 2 года назад +3

      @@jotaroisbestboy7593 you haven’t seen the Vegeta anime version yet

    • @jotaroisbestboy7593
      @jotaroisbestboy7593 2 года назад +3

      @@legendhasit6459 super Saiyan bule evolution is iust recolor Ultra super Saiyan

  • @MentaAzul
    @MentaAzul 2 года назад +109

    The philosophy of Toppo being Vegeta's counterpart, as well as Jiren's philosophy being Goku's counterpart is something incredible.

    • @Geekdom101
      @Geekdom101  2 года назад +36

      i like the way you think

    • @princelii6937
      @princelii6937 2 года назад +4

      //I disagree, Vegeta beat toppo himself before even reaching ultra ego. Goku needed help with jiren and didn’t defeat him by himself🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @MentaAzul
      @MentaAzul 2 года назад +6

      @@princelii6937 It is assumed that to beat Jiren they needed to do teamwork as a counterpart to Jiren's philosophy of fighting alone.

    • @xantwanevolutionar9777
      @xantwanevolutionar9777 2 года назад +6

      @@princelii6937 goku in MUI definitely did beat jiren stated by beerus himself until MUI wore out so THEN he needed help again to finish the tournament

    • @heavenlypath1065
      @heavenlypath1065 2 года назад

      What's Jiren's philosophy?

  • @coffee.caffeine
    @coffee.caffeine 2 года назад +70

    The way I see it is like this: Toppo is like giving someone a gun and barely training them. Vegeta is like teaching someone everything about guns long before they're ever given a gun to practice with.

  • @KeysofIDproductions
    @KeysofIDproductions 2 года назад +131

    My theory is that the Gods of Destruction were all mortals once and had to sacrifice what tied them to the mortal realm to become a true Destroyer, rather than using a Destroyer's power in the case of Vegeta and Ultra Ego. Vegeta is still tied to the mortal realm as an obligation to his family and friendly rivalry with Goku, whereas Toppo does not have an "attachment" per se other than his sense of justice. Toppo's training would have to be longer than Vegeta's, where he understood the philosophical approach to ascending from mortal into full deity.

    • @CitizenSnips89
      @CitizenSnips89 2 года назад +14

      Makes sense why they get erased in the top and not the angels. The universe from which they ascended waa erased, so they were too

    • @AndreB23
      @AndreB23 2 года назад

      @@HumanGio Stop spamming.

    • @superelite5133
      @superelite5133 2 года назад +1

      That’s been my theory to for awhile now makes a lot of sense!

    • @Geekdom101
      @Geekdom101  2 года назад +16

      i like your idea

    • @DreJ912
      @DreJ912 2 года назад +14

      I like this. But DBS has been so mediocre that your theory is too advanced for its poor writing

  • @brandonbassett4988
    @brandonbassett4988 2 года назад +49

    I believe Vegeta will ultimately become the strongest wielder of hakai energy eventually.

    • @Alrokako
      @Alrokako 2 года назад

      Then Toppo? His form isn't stronger then UE

    • @laughingoutloud502
      @laughingoutloud502 2 года назад +9

      @@Alrokako vegeta best destruction toppo in blue evolved

    • @PurpYoshii
      @PurpYoshii 2 года назад

      ULTRA vegito would like a word

    • @Geekdom101
      @Geekdom101  2 года назад +5

      yes maybe

    • @brandonbassett4988
      @brandonbassett4988 2 года назад +3

      @@Geekdom101 agreed. We shall see how they progress Vegeta’s growth using this power. I hope to see his power evolve.

  • @TooManyBones
    @TooManyBones 2 года назад +28

    Maybe part of Vegeta's GOD power is rooted in the guilt he feels for the "sins" committed by his race. It could explain why he gets stronger as he takes more damage. Part of him believes that he deserves to be punished for the bad he's done. The other side of that coin is as he takes damage, his will to battle burns brighter. He's accepted the fact that he and Saiyans before him did things that he no longer feels the need to do. But he thrives in battle. His natural instincts kick in and push him to survive and overcome. Kind of like hitting the skip button on natural evolution.

    • @cheekyguy2021
      @cheekyguy2021 2 года назад +3

      They definitely should add this in the manga. Like Whis or Beerus should explain it this way

    • @TooManyBones
      @TooManyBones 2 года назад

      @@cheekyguy2021 It would be pretty sweet if that's the case. I could be way off base, but that was my initial theory during his battle with Granola when we found out that damage strengthens him.

    • @TooManyBones
      @TooManyBones 2 года назад

      @Elevayting Thanks man

  • @Vulpas
    @Vulpas 2 года назад +55

    Vegeta beat Toppo several arcs ago without Ultra Ego. He'd one shot Toppo now.

    • @masterzero8561
      @masterzero8561 2 года назад +22

      That's assuming toppo hasn't been training sense we last saw him.

    • @namelesssturdy4676
      @namelesssturdy4676 2 года назад +7

      @@masterzero8561 also i think he would eventually have a better control of his hakai form and powers.

    • @qtindavis433
      @qtindavis433 2 года назад +13

      @@masterzero8561 vegeta also did it in blue. And has-been training with another transformation on top of that

    • @Hip-Gnosis1134
      @Hip-Gnosis1134 2 года назад +25

      One can argue that everyone in the TOP was holding back because they weren’t allowed to kill anyone

    • @denariojames8230
      @denariojames8230 2 года назад +1

      That’s kinda what I was saying

  • @stefanoscorza2560
    @stefanoscorza2560 2 года назад +33

    The technique of the gods does not have a name. It's just hakai state as long as we know. Vegeta was the one who just named his own version of it ultra ego just to spite Goku's ultra instinct basically. I doubt if we see Beerus in this state at some point that he would dub it ultra ego. That would be kind of weird tbh.

    • @Geekdom101
      @Geekdom101  2 года назад +9

      Hakai is the name bro.

  • @grapes9h5
    @grapes9h5 2 года назад +84

    The way I thought of it was every mortal, in theory, has the potential to tap in Hakai energy, and depending on their innate biology, even transform or mutate with it. And any mortal with enough power and training can learn to do just that, like Toppo and Vegeta. However, no matter what, in order to do so, there is a heavy psychological component to tapping into that power and making use of it. The combination of the psychological aspects and the biological aspects are what make Toppo and Vegeta’s power ups distinct abilities but they are coming from the same type of power. That’s what makes the most sense to me at least.

    • @aaronbranstetter5433
      @aaronbranstetter5433 2 года назад +4

      Also the way Roshi acquired self movement was different than goku's white haired form, ot Beerus' usage

    • @Ando1428
      @Ando1428 2 года назад

      Well that's how it goes in the manga. In the anime it seems more defined by beings that have touched divinity. Like the saiyan ritual. Or being given guardianship over a planet in dende case. In the anime toppo only uses divine ki when he uses destruction energy. In the manga anyone can use God ki as long as they were taught how. toppo specifically states that goku had finally used the ki of the gods. Then he began using divine ki right afterwards. Granted because the top was rushed he wasn't allowed to use destruction in the manga. Anyone with divine ki can use the power of the angels or hakaishin. Goku with a limited understanding was able to use hakai on goku black.

    • @orangeyellow9695
      @orangeyellow9695 2 года назад +1

      We all know it's all about hakai genes

  • @kashfreegame
    @kashfreegame 2 года назад +13

    Vegeta literally beat toppos god of destruction form with ssb evolution. This same vegeta went on to train with the yardrats and become even more stronger to rival ui debatingly surpass ui omen in power with ssb evolution newly mastering spirit control. Not to mention this was also a stronger UI Omen goku. Then vegeta trained again to obtain god of destruction key. I think this current vegeta is jiren level if not greater by a little. Toppo isn’t touching that

    • @nothingbutnets9025
      @nothingbutnets9025 2 года назад

      Toppo could have been training all this time aswell or He could’ve also officially become the God of Destruction of
      His universe so he has powers we haven’t even seen yet. Just because Vegeta beat him ssgb evo. Doesn’t mean they can’t make Toppo stronger. Lmaoo Krillin and 17 competed with SSG Blue that forms a joke

    • @kashfreegame
      @kashfreegame 2 года назад

      @@nothingbutnets9025 there’s a such thing as suppressing your power in dragon ball super if you actually think goku fought seriously against krillin you drunk

    • @shido_rimru_
      @shido_rimru_ 2 года назад

      @@nothingbutnets9025 nope topo is fodder stop using that argument

  • @DURIEL1
    @DURIEL1 2 года назад +8

    *Yeah, that would be a STOMP FEST on Vegeta's part, because him and Goku are far beyond there ToP versions now.*

    • @jotaroisbestboy7593
      @jotaroisbestboy7593 2 года назад +2

      I think full limiter BREAKER jrein can best vegeta

    • @ggamesgarner8027
      @ggamesgarner8027 2 года назад +2

      @@jotaroisbestboy7593 vegeta can currently stomp on angelic moro or Moro arc MUI goku who can both already one shot jiren by scaling, feats, statements and overall logic.
      You do realize vegeta can probably casually stomp jiren just in his accended SSJ blue form currently right?

    • @jotaroisbestboy7593
      @jotaroisbestboy7593 2 года назад

      @@ggamesgarner8027 we. Do not know If jrein training after top

    • @DURIEL1
      @DURIEL1 2 года назад

      @@ggamesgarner8027 Yeah and Vegeta will just get more and more stronger in UE too.

    • @ggamesgarner8027
      @ggamesgarner8027 2 года назад +2

      @@jotaroisbestboy7593 with how strong goku and vegeta got and with there being merus, broly and now granola replacing jiren I very highly doubt jiren will ever return as more than a small cameo to show how much stronger goku and vegeta got.
      We already have granola, merus and broly as powerhouse rivals for goku and vegeta. As much as some people don’t want to admit it jiren has been replaced and forgotten.

  • @williamdaniels9728
    @williamdaniels9728 2 года назад +2

    I honestly think their paths to Ultra Ego and God Of Destruction are very similar if you look at it this way, they both had to sacrifice part of their identities/ideals. For Vegeta is was guilt/shame of the evils he had already done holding him back, Vegeta held onto it because he thought it made him a better person - and for Toppo is was guilt/shame of being a god of destruction and the evils he was about to do (instead of a superhero pursuing Justice) because GODS often have to destroy and this probably includes innocent people/things and this was not in line with Toppo's self identity and vision for his life.

    • @user-o10oo0oo0o
      @user-o10oo0oo0o 2 года назад

      they are the same the thing is vegeta abilities to gain strenght from near death increases his power however toopo doesn't have the sayain genes vegeta has however vegeta called the god of destruction form ultra ego because he didn't like the name god of destruction so he dicided to name after his own ego that made him have better feat then toppo using the god of destruction form

  • @Darksword-786
    @Darksword-786 2 года назад +14

    I would really like to see something in the future, regarding how one truly becomes a God of Destruction and the techniques they learn and how the whole process works. Perhaps in a Beerus origin story.

  • @dach829
    @dach829 2 года назад +5

    Imagine a time line where Majin vegeta has ultra ego, giving up everything

  • @JakeTylenol
    @JakeTylenol 2 года назад +9

    It would kind of be a dope feature for UE, the longer you use it the more powers you unlock. So like the base form makes you stronger as you go along but the next tier nullifies ki attacks, so on so forth, idk, something like that.

    • @nothingbutnets9025
      @nothingbutnets9025 2 года назад +4

      I’d rather this than Super Saiyan Ultra Ego super Saiyan 😂😂

  • @kuleyklips5324
    @kuleyklips5324 2 года назад +5

    Finally! I’ve been waiting for so long for someone to explain this! On the death battle channel Vegeta vs Thor , they said the only thing they could compare UE to was god of destruction toppo, which is not the same thing as UE

  • @AndreB23
    @AndreB23 2 года назад +27

    I feel like Toppo's version is a defensive form of the Hakai-power, while Vegeta's version (UE) is an offensive version of it. Toppo gave up his sense of justice so that he could ultimately protect U11 from being erased, using Hakai-energy, so that allowed him to have a form that shielded him from attacks. Vegeta, on the other hand, wanted to use the Hakai-power simply to overcome and surpass any opponent that got in his way, so he gained a form that allowed him to catch up to opponents that could severely damage him. Simply put, they both had very different reasons to use Hakai-energy, and those reasons led to them having different properties for the transformations they gained.

    • @gammafrost
      @gammafrost 2 года назад +7

      People initially thought something very similar when ultra instinct was first introduced. They thought Vegeta would have the “offensive” version of ultra instinct but that wasn’t the case. I definitely think there is more to Vegeta’s ultra ego and there are higher variations of it

    • @epicfights7898
      @epicfights7898 2 года назад +7

      @@HumanGio Do you know how to shut it?

  • @greyborg3846
    @greyborg3846 2 года назад +20

    I've seen some discussion, especially with the recent Chapters bringing the Saiyan's heritage more into the forefront again, that Vegeta and Goku may not be entirely compatible with the angelic and destroyer powers they have been learning. It seems like recently they have both basically given up on their saiyan given abilities and go all in on these new techniques and forms. Personally I'm hopeful that they reverse course and go back to advancing as saiyans and use their access to God ki and the techniques and forms that it opens up to them to just augment their super saiyan abilities. Alternatively, I would love to see someone like Krillin, who as a human does not have access to a plethora of transformations, learn how to harness God ki and maybe go all in on it. What do you think?

    • @gammafrost
      @gammafrost 2 года назад +5

      I get what you mean but based on the direction they’re going, it looks like ultra ego and ultra instinct are just stepping platforms to them combining it with their saiyan abilities to access greater power. That’s why Whis asked Goku what he truly was in order to gain his unique form of ultra instinct

    • @greyborg3846
      @greyborg3846 2 года назад +1

      @@the_lonely_winner2956 I know, but I'm still so nostalgic for the early DBZ days...

  • @marcdogg5270
    @marcdogg5270 2 года назад +10

    Vegeta upgraded his Ultra Ego abilities in the recent magna chapters I like the explanation on the Hakai techniques

    • @rawwej
      @rawwej 2 года назад +3

      He definitely did he went from creating spheres of destruction with two hands to one lmaoooo

    • @marcdogg5270
      @marcdogg5270 2 года назад

      @@rawwej Factsss 😂

    • @Geekdom101
      @Geekdom101  2 года назад +2

      yes i know

  • @blaketindle4703
    @blaketindle4703 2 года назад +4

    Beerus must feel some pride knowing the mortal he taught to use Hakai energy is now FAR stronger than Toppo lol. I think Ultra Ego Vegeta would wreck most of the current Gods of Destruction, but not Beerus.

    • @nothingbutnets9025
      @nothingbutnets9025 2 года назад +3

      Your just assuming most of them are weak 😂with no evidence

    • @nothingbutnets9025
      @nothingbutnets9025 2 года назад

      People forget ssjred competed with Beerus and Goku has yet to surpass him 😂😂 3-5 arcs later

    • @blaketindle4703
      @blaketindle4703 2 года назад +1

      @@nothingbutnets9025 Jiren was said to be stronger than Belmond and Vegeta and Goku are way beyond TOP Jiren now.

  • @notyouraveragesliceofpizza9105
    @notyouraveragesliceofpizza9105 2 года назад +1

    You had me with those gamer sheets geekdom 😂😂😂

  • @Mikerille
    @Mikerille 2 года назад +5

    Ultra ego vegeta one shots

  • @chochitosports
    @chochitosports 2 года назад +2

    This is interesting... I believe Vegeta can be even a more powerful GOD of Destruction than Beerus, due to genetics. We have to see how powerful beerus race is... but Vegeta being an elite and a prodigy, mean that his potential is huge

  • @dereklyma6310
    @dereklyma6310 2 года назад +4

    Awesome video bro
    Just by the fact that Vegeta got his God of Destruction earring, it already shows that he is much more advanced than the Top.

    • @marcdogg5270
      @marcdogg5270 2 года назад +1

      The earring symbolizes one that can use destruction power that’s all

    • @SlimShadly
      @SlimShadly 2 года назад

      @@marcdogg5270 and notice has beerus has multiple all over his body, so he destructive power must be on a whole different level

    • @dereklyma6310
      @dereklyma6310 2 года назад

      @@marcdogg5270 and top dont have one :v

    • @marcdogg5270
      @marcdogg5270 2 года назад

      I didn’t write it I’m just telling you what was said in the manga

    • @dereklyma6310
      @dereklyma6310 2 года назад

      @@marcdogg5270 no problem man

  • @courtenayblair2279
    @courtenayblair2279 2 года назад +1

    Vegeta got his transformation to tap into the power WITHOUT sacrificing his guilt. He fought in ue while still feeling the guilt of his race

  • @titanmasterrace4000
    @titanmasterrace4000 2 года назад +2

    Vegeta wins because he doesn’t have to charge his attacks i do wish he has that haki aura.

  • @blaketindle4703
    @blaketindle4703 2 года назад +1

    5:19 LOVE this image of UE Vegeta with the shining Destroyer earring!!!

  • @kamenrangerzeo8251
    @kamenrangerzeo8251 2 года назад +2

    Ultra Ego Vegeta is better than G.O.D. candidate Toppo. Reason Toppo threw away is pride and sense of justice just to defeat Vegeta, while the prince of all Saiyans had not only adapted the power of G.O.D. energy but made the power he gain from beerus a version that can be close or equal to Goku's MUI.

  • @djgardawubz1278
    @djgardawubz1278 2 года назад +8

    It personally makes me hope that Vegetas go too Hakai blast is an upgraded Big Bang Attack. Iirc its the least usec attack of his and unlike the Gamma Burst Flash, and the Final Shine Attack, it has no future upgrade. So like- idek how to name it

    • @aSaiyan_Cloeku
      @aSaiyan_Cloeku 2 года назад +3

      Big Hakai, Bang! or Big Bang! Hakai!
      Which ever you prefer!
      Eheheehe!
      o7
      I’m out.
      ~ClovedaddyD~

    • @lidaaletap2646
      @lidaaletap2646 2 года назад +1

      @@aSaiyan_Cloeku Big Bang Destruction? Im not sure

  • @savagehiro1720
    @savagehiro1720 2 года назад +4

    geekdom gang x ultimate power 🔋

  • @KingAlexv
    @KingAlexv 2 года назад +2

    I want a Vegeta and Toppo to fight and tap into their full power and fight

  • @DethaneGames
    @DethaneGames 2 года назад +2

    Toppo isn't as much humanoid as he is muppetoid.

  • @thexenoguy2769
    @thexenoguy2769 Год назад +1

    Remember that vegeta in dragon ball super that he agreed to be a god of destruction

  • @diodoggo5262
    @diodoggo5262 2 года назад +2

    That fake add caught me off guard lmfaoooooooo

  • @chrisholbrook5917
    @chrisholbrook5917 2 года назад +1

    Thumbs up 👍🏻 from me to you bro! Very good explanation of God of Destruction Toppo and UE Vegeta! It’s makes all the sense in the world, The way you explained everything! Definitely looking forward to seeing Toppo and Vegeta evolve the God of Destruction power!

  • @ghosttemplar6989
    @ghosttemplar6989 2 года назад

    I have been pondering this the whole time and you have answered every question in my brain

  • @Piznick64
    @Piznick64 2 года назад

    This rivalry in 100 years will be off the charts

  • @xperensdskateboards
    @xperensdskateboards 2 года назад +6

    GREAT VIDEO ! i always feel like they are the same , but different. their both god of destruction forms, but vegetas is stacked with his god ki, thats why he has the hair color change . toppo only has the destruction ki but not the god ki , thats how vegeta was able to beat him .the ultra forms are god techniques , goku and vegeta worked on that more. i agree toppo has more knowledge of destruction but not as much of god ki

    • @aaront2192
      @aaront2192 2 года назад +1

      I think vegeta and gokus hair changes are actually more because they're using more incomplete forms than toppo did. He got the god emblems on his chest. Vegeta didn't. Almost as if vegetas transformation was a ssj level influenced by destruction energy.

  • @kevintate3039
    @kevintate3039 2 года назад

    Hey D Man i love your content you keep it 1000 about Dragon Ball and you really break it down keep up the gd work bro

  • @derrickchavis
    @derrickchavis 2 года назад +6

    Vegeta and the other Gods getting stronger through damage may have something to do with using destruction power in an opposite way.
    Damage eventually could lead to destruction. So by using destruction power, it somehow allows one to benefit from damage and therefore avoid complete destruction itself.
    This is why Vegeta says his form has no limit. And Beerus said that his mind is always on destruction which is why there was no limit to his power.

  • @insanemakaioshin
    @insanemakaioshin 2 года назад +7

    Toppo only got Ultra Ego Sign, while Vegeta got Ultra Ego proper. The differences between Toppo & Vegeta's method to obtain Ultra Ego is very similar to the differences between Goku's methods to obtain UI Sign & Mastered UI.

    • @Jerry-jo6dn
      @Jerry-jo6dn 2 года назад

      Toppo has better defensive capabilities while Vegeta takes too much damage for his power to keep rising.

    • @insanemakaioshin
      @insanemakaioshin 2 года назад

      @@Jerry-jo6dn that could be due to the difference training they received. Vegeta focusing on ultra ego exclusively while toppo used it to create different techniques before fully mastering it.

    • @kingatlanofatlantis3075
      @kingatlanofatlantis3075 2 года назад

      @@insanemakaioshin Because Ultra Ego fails to show anything destructive?

  • @bradberglund1154
    @bradberglund1154 2 года назад

    Great video man.

  • @aytgh
    @aytgh 2 года назад +3

    Screw attack thinks Ultra Ego and Toppo's GoD form are pretty much the same thing.

  • @GokuMoon
    @GokuMoon 2 года назад

    Great video bro 😎

  • @JSPHTRS
    @JSPHTRS 2 года назад

    Being a destroyer just means willing to destroy without any sense of morale, guilt, or reason... once your past that, you can qualify yourself as a destroyer.

  • @charlesbox5410
    @charlesbox5410 2 года назад

    Great video I never even thought about that lol

  • @darknessgod5328
    @darknessgod5328 2 года назад +1

    Show this to Screw Attack for putting misinformation out on Vegeta saying it’s the same transformation when it’s not.

  • @TBROWN247
    @TBROWN247 2 года назад +1

    Everybody know it's levels to this.

  • @CrixusT-1
    @CrixusT-1 2 года назад

    Awesome vid!

  • @ozymandiastheiii9176
    @ozymandiastheiii9176 11 месяцев назад

    Whis has stated that for you to master these god abilities you have to find your own way. This makes sense considering ultra ego has its own technique with the damage/ power boost multiplyer. If he combines it with spirit fission his blows and attacks could literally not only damage the opponents body, but also their Ki

  • @tonyrodriguez7820
    @tonyrodriguez7820 2 года назад +1

    Fully Agree with Geekdom where Vegeta is just using hakai power and is not a full blown destroyer. Remember what Beerus told Vegeta when he said what he needed to do to become stronger that he will have "steal" this power

  • @kenpachizaraki5237
    @kenpachizaraki5237 2 года назад +1

    Since Beerus is the Strongest Destroyer well atleast in the Manga, it might be that Beerus has this Ultra Ego Technique to make up for not being able to Master Ultra Instinct. That's probably why he wanted Vegeta to learn it especially cuz he reject UI completely.
    And even if the other Destroyers have UE they probably wouldn't be as good at it as Beerus given how he seems to Goku's Endgame in the Super Series. Or it could be that each Destroyers have their OWN Unique way of tapping into this power. I remember that one Destroyer from Universe 3 I believe was wearing a Robotic Suit. Maybe it was his way of getting stronger or something.

  • @johnachon1391
    @johnachon1391 2 года назад

    Vegeta "forsaking" the past to achieve Ego is similar to how he achieved Super Saiyan in the first place.

  • @kynshii
    @kynshii 2 года назад +1

    If we get another Tournament of Power, their rematch would be epic. Battle of the G.O.D.s

  • @FirstLast-mk2ur
    @FirstLast-mk2ur 2 года назад +1

    I like the comparisons made b/w Vegeta’s abilities & Toppo’s; & the correlations made to Vegeta’s Saiyan instincts as it relates to the differences.
    It does seem like both characters happened to give something up in their journey’s of personal motivation, but something tells me that Toppo didn’t necessarily have to give up his sense of Justice to use the Hakaishin Ki he’d been training to learn to use; but that the pressure he felt to win the TOP is what convinced him to start using his destruction Ki which he had already obtained before he made that emotional decision to give up his devotion to Justice. And I have a feeling it might be the same for Vegeta, where Beerus used teaching Vegeta to use GoD Ki as an opportunity to both satisfy his own & Vegeta’s motivation to surpass Goku’s UI; & also help Vegeta get rid of the baggage of guilt he ‘s been carrying around.
    Then again, there may be a little bit of a chicken & the egg/physical vs metaphysical paradox happening where, either the higher abstract motivations that a character focuses on are integral in just even making it physically possible for some like Goku & Vegeta to reach the highest “god” levels of martial arts in DBsuper-like UI & Hakaishin Ki; &/or that the while the difficulty in reaching those highest levels of power just so happens to force those characters to change their core outlook on life, that actually being able to use UI or Ultra Ego/Hakaishin Ki & the personal beliefs & inner motivations a character holds, are categorically separate & independent concepts & phenomena from one another.

  • @jacoblamberson2709
    @jacoblamberson2709 2 года назад +7

    Apart of me thinks Toppo is more skilled in Destruction power. He fully had the mindset Beerus talked to Vegeta about. But despite that I think Vegeta is still stronger, Toppo is just more experienced. Oh 2nd by the way 😂😭

    • @qtindavis433
      @qtindavis433 2 года назад +1

      Toppo had it longer as well. But he was weaker than ssbe vegeta

    • @jackbadrick1598
      @jackbadrick1598 2 года назад +1

      Yeah thats what I think too, while weaker in strength, i think Toppo has mastered the powers of destruction more as of now.

    • @jacoblamberson2709
      @jacoblamberson2709 2 года назад

      @@HumanGio I don't know 😬I imagine he's come across them for sure as popular as they were.

  • @christopherholloman5734
    @christopherholloman5734 2 года назад +2

    Beerus sacrifices his heart/empathy to tap into it but you can control your destructive desire when your a master like a god of destruction.. instead of toppo getting ultra instinct he abandoned his hearts desire to be a good person a destructive person knows instinctively that they are not good 😂 its just that simple its like making a deal with the devil hence why vegeta says he is hell bound 🤷🏽‍♂️ its divine strictly because its instinct based instead of being evil theres genuine pure destruction like goku genuine pure heart vegeta and goku represents the human race perfectly and its potential and on the other hand beerus and whis in there god tiers

  • @SHIV-ge5wb
    @SHIV-ge5wb Год назад

    A line said in the anime that further what geekdom said about vegeta only using this hakai for combat not for destroyer is “I will not throw away my pride to play god” also the sins of the sayains will always haunt vegeta which why another reason he won’t be a destroyer because u can’t feel any empathy for this mantle and vegeta couldn’t finish ghranola because sayains were responsible ghranola taking revenge on z fighters

  • @emperorsunnyshore9272
    @emperorsunnyshore9272 2 года назад +1

    I was just thinking about this a few days ago

  • @super-kami-guru
    @super-kami-guru 2 года назад

    Yes been waiting for this since you mentioned it!

  • @gergomi7289
    @gergomi7289 2 года назад

    Brilliant geekdom ✌️🧠.

  • @onryu
    @onryu 2 года назад +1

    has anyone ever considered a possible connection of ultra ego and SSJ3? visually both states lack eye brows, and both have that distict brow ridge, like Red God ki is equal to base, Blue is base god plus SSJ, Super Blue/Blue Evolved equal to SSJ2, and now Ultra Ego as a SSJ3 equivalent

  • @xantwanevolutionar9777
    @xantwanevolutionar9777 Год назад

    Ultra Ego works like Goku’s UI, it’s supposed to be a technique but these mf saiyans use it as Transformations and that’s just amazing

  • @chanceneck8072
    @chanceneck8072 2 года назад

    Great vid, Danny! I really liked this one. Very well made!

  • @mechajay3358
    @mechajay3358 2 года назад

    It seems like Vegeta's Ego is more like a Technique-type while Toppo's GOD leans more into a Transformation-type

  • @DougYaBoi
    @DougYaBoi 2 года назад

    Ultra Ego Vegeta vs God Toppo would be sick to see

  • @Robinx1985
    @Robinx1985 2 года назад +1

    Ironic thing is that Vegeta would need to create an in between form of Ultra Ego so if he needed to spar with his Master being Beerus, he wouldn't risk total annihilation of universe 7. But I can imagine in another tournament of power how Toppo would react to seeing Vegeta with that power.

  • @abielferrin913
    @abielferrin913 2 года назад

    Idk if it's about giving something up but rather giving into destructive desires, embracing them even. But certain values get in the way for someone to accept destruction, such as guilt, or a sense of justice.

  • @darienrounds9307
    @darienrounds9307 2 года назад +1

    Seems like you have to give up what’s most important to you ? Like how thanos had to sacrifice his gamorra for the soul stone

  • @keenanmelvin6340
    @keenanmelvin6340 2 года назад

    Beerus gave up sleep case closed 😂😂

  • @0624tre
    @0624tre 2 года назад

    Toppo actually says he had to let everything go also

  • @ThisGuy-ds4fk
    @ThisGuy-ds4fk 2 года назад

    Dude you’re on point

  • @BrotherlyBanter21
    @BrotherlyBanter21 2 года назад

    A full powered Final Flash but with Hakai energy would be disgusting

  • @rodimussupreme2329
    @rodimussupreme2329 2 года назад

    I feel like Ultra Ego is basically Vegeta going Super Saiyan Blue, but activating Hakai ki instead of Saiyan God ki.

  • @truefeelke
    @truefeelke 2 года назад

    The thing is not that they have to give up something. The pathway to their god of destruction forms is not a sacrifice. It is about getting rid of any unnecessary distractions. Beerus mentioned that the key to his destruction power is that he is solely focused on destruction. Topo's sense of justice was a distraction he had to get rid of. Vegetas guilt was a distraction he had to get rid of. Note how similar this is to ultra instinct. Only, the goals are different. Ultra instinct is about getting rid of any and all distractions to completely clear one's mind, ultra ego is about getting rid of any and all distractions to focus solely on destruction.

  • @LoveNote_
    @LoveNote_ 2 года назад +5

    Toppo and vegeta are not in the same league as beerus. Beerus could probably take them both at the same time

    • @gammafrost
      @gammafrost 2 года назад +1

      I mean you’re right but we all pretty much know this. They are far less experienced with this kind of power

    • @justinwilliams9262
      @justinwilliams9262 2 года назад +1

      Vegeta will surpass Beerus soon, Vegeta gets stronger faster then Beerus because he is a sayain. Plus Vegeta is leagues above Toppo In power.

  • @Socholos
    @Socholos 2 года назад

    Unrelated, but the only way for Piccolo to catch up to Vegeta and Goku, aside from fusing with the other universe namekians (which would be unnecessary unless a plot line called for such desperate measures) is if he began training with the Supreme Kais. If Super Heroes is canon, then this would be super fitting.
    God of Creation Piccolo doesn’t have too bad of a ring to it.

  • @sonwalrez2842
    @sonwalrez2842 2 года назад +2

    I don’t get why people discuss this fight. If vegeta could beat him in ssbe then why would he even struggle in ue. Plus in the manga he doesn’t even have a G.O.D form.

  • @flumreviews4691
    @flumreviews4691 2 года назад

    Love you man! Huge fan! Keep up the great content.

  • @priyanksaikia5549
    @priyanksaikia5549 11 месяцев назад

    The thing about Vegeta GOD power is he is still an Apprentice while Toppo had mastered the Hakai Energy and was in the Priliminary Stages of becoming a God of Destruction which he did by setting aside JUSTICE and making sure Only Pure Destruction can help maintain the balance in the cosmos and to help his Universe Survive.

  • @Kenpachi324
    @Kenpachi324 2 года назад

    That’s for the Vegeta video

  • @SuperMannyD
    @SuperMannyD 2 года назад

    Not sure if you could've gotten any more in depth with the GoDs that tested the ToP battle ground. I don't remember them tapping into their power, but just some food for thought.

  • @dragonkingunity
    @dragonkingunity 2 года назад +2

    I am thinking of something no about this video but what if goku and vegeta had to face the gods of destruction from the universe that didn't take place in the tournament. We know their universes ar consider above the other but we don't know why. some think their gods of destruction unlocked ultra instinct. My point is what if goku and vegeta need to fuse into vegito or gogeta and use ultra ego with ultra instinct .

  • @jimmyd8853
    @jimmyd8853 2 года назад

    The way they wrote Toppo's character contradicts itself. How does a character the fights for justice as a super hero end up a destroyer? He willingly goes from a super hero to something that destroys planets. That's a crazy transition. That's like Goku taking Beerus's job.

  • @aliesterbadd4311
    @aliesterbadd4311 2 года назад +1

    Seriously the f*** and led blanket

  • @Saiyangod41205
    @Saiyangod41205 2 года назад +1

    The technique of the gods are usually rather interesting remember there are different forms of ultra instinct the state, the sign of awakening and mastered this may be the same case for Vegeta and toppo the hakai is a form of ki u could enshroud yourself in it as toppo did that's how ki attacks didn't even affect him we just gotta wait and learn

  • @Dion.The.SupremeDeity
    @Dion.The.SupremeDeity 2 года назад

    Geekdom I feel you have it wrong when you state that Vegeta, Toppo had to give up something to achieve UE. When Toppo said he gave up on justice. It meant I gave up on being a super hero. Not in exchange for one thing to another. Beerus stated that if Vegeta learns something Beerus shows him he doesn't care if he uses it. So that would imply that Hakai can be obtained through learning destructional energy. Not sacrificings one morality for another. I think Beerus teaching Vegeta about him view of morality, how he holds the weight, guilt of all the saiyans sins. Change of mind helps Vegeta evolve. Not to be able to obtain UE better!

  • @ronneemazukin
    @ronneemazukin 2 года назад +1

    For one ultra ego is just a name Vegeta came up with it. The way he Named it implies that either it is a nameless technique or Vegeta didnt like the original name. Also Beerus often tells us what is required of GOD. If you analyze his comments we can understand the things and reasons Toppo and Vegeta had to give up what was holding them back from fighting like one. These transformations they are using seems like an added crutch CD h to use the power. Then again maybe all the Gods have a transformation too.

  • @nolanmackall5165
    @nolanmackall5165 2 года назад +3

    Is it safe to say that in terms of mastery over God Destruction energy does Toppo have more mastery over it do to the markings on his chest

    • @Geekdom101
      @Geekdom101  2 года назад

      maybe... he has more experience

  • @DanDaMaN95cov
    @DanDaMaN95cov 2 года назад

    The fact that Whis asks Vegeta to become a God of destruction proves that they were once mortals, unlike Angels and Supreme Kais. You probley get an extended life span seeing as it's linked to the Supreme Kai. Beerus is over 75 million years old after all.

  • @curie1420
    @curie1420 2 года назад

    6:01 vegeta didnt have to give up anything, he just became who he truly was...... its the opposite of toppo in that sense since toppo had to give up who he was

  • @chrisgarner4155
    @chrisgarner4155 Год назад

    I think that Toppo's G.O.D. form is more of a G.O.D. equivalent of the Mystic Form that utilizes their inner potential. Vegeta's Ultra Ego is a form like Ultra Instinct. Where it's a fighting technique that is amplified by transformation.

  • @jasonenglish3713
    @jasonenglish3713 2 года назад

    I would love which 2 God of Destruction Toppo and ultra Ego Vegeta is stronger or powerful;Keep up awesome and amazing job Geekdom 👍

  • @jojivlogs3697
    @jojivlogs3697 2 года назад +4

    I like to think Toppo's Form is the "Omen" of Ultra Ego.

    • @thulodari6816
      @thulodari6816 2 года назад

      Nah

    • @jojivlogs3697
      @jojivlogs3697 2 года назад

      @@thulodari6816 it looks similar to the Omen form if you compare it to that, then Ego looms similar to how Mui does now.
      The power boost that Toppo also got was also not as strong as If it were Ego.

  • @KoolKatBeatz
    @KoolKatBeatz 2 года назад

    Can we please get a blast deflection explained video? Like when Nappa's arm went numb when he deflected angry Gohan's Masenko? or maybe a video on what happens to a person during a beam struggle?? Like what it takes to win and the toll it takes on the body/mind/Ki levels??

  • @andreroyal5852
    @andreroyal5852 2 года назад

    I believe the reason vegeta don’t have the signs is because he didn’t accept to be the god of destruction candidate

  • @TwPpopcorn
    @TwPpopcorn 2 года назад

    Beerus did what's he telling Vegeta think of nothing but destroying... And bardock co signer... Nothing but victory

  • @brucebergkamp
    @brucebergkamp 2 года назад

    Ultra Ego Vegeta is a mouthful to say. I say we go with Hakai-geta.

  • @TheJesusNerd40
    @TheJesusNerd40 2 года назад

    UE has tiers just like UI has tiers. Beerus used UI omen in the manga battle royale against the other gods of destruction. But whis said lord Beerus hasn't mastered UI yet.