I think they had Piccolo change color because they felt sorry for him for not catching up with Goku. Just like people felt sorry for Gohan for not taking over the spotlight, and be the new hero in his father's place.
I liked the Super Heroes movie over all, it offered something fresh by expanding the DB lore and developing other characters that are not Goku and Vegeta. It wasn't perfect but definitely a worth rewatching, which is something I plan to do 💯
It’s always been interesting to me. Gohan’s potential has always been so high but unlike his father and vegeta who are full Saiyans. I feel like his emotions effect him more due to him also being human. Especially because of how emotional humans can be in comparison to saiyans
You know how Oozaru are so powerful and get more and more anger. The Humans and Saiyans emotions are different the Saiyans was a savage race of power, pride and fighting in universe 7. Okay Humans have meaning different emotions mix the two you have a extreme power boost and Gohan. Who has become more enraged than any other character in the whole serie.
I think Gohans energy represents balance. White angelic hair but surrounded by purple destructive energy. It's what whis has been trying to get through to vegeta and goku.
Interesting idea, I actually like that a lot! It ties in nicely to Gohan being tied to the Kaioshins too because they're the middle ground between Gods of Destruction and their Angels.
Definitely was thinking the same thing! His speed and combat prowess reeks of UI. His overall bravado and battle hungry personality lines up with UE. His overall tone is reminiscent of SSJ2 but with the polish of Ultimate/Mystic Gohan.
I am in the belief that Gohans Transfornation may be something similar to Vegetas, something drawn from within, Gokus is actually very different in the sense that anyone could learn it but with Gohans and Vegetas it is a strict result of their personalities so to speak. Gokus Ultra Instinct is the flow state in its purest form, a fitting form for the man whos life is eat, train, sleep, repeat. Vegetas Ultra Ego is literally drawn from his sheer self confidence that has stood the test of many sorrowful beatings. And Gohans is drawn from something a little darker, Gohans Ssj2 transformation was also similar, Gohan became colder in that form, but in this state, it seems his mind has a pure focus to simply delete whatever entity dared touch his friends.
goku was also being lead towards UI his entire life, roshi taught him the true blue basics, mr.popo a being who was born in otherworld and sent to earth taught him to move faster than lightning but be as calm and quiet as the sky, korin taught him how to control his breathing, king kai taught him how to properly control ki (kai-o ken) and obviously whis taught him to try and allow his body to move on its own. and all of these masters also told him to build his mind as well as his body
Gohan Beast is Ultimate Gohan mixed with Super Saiyan 2. It's pretty obvious design wise as well. They did this so that in the future whenever he get's god Ki, he will still have Ultimate Wrapped around whatever new forms he uses. Thus making all his forms UNIQUE to himself as he always wanted.
If you saw gohan face after he smirks at cells giant blast he was about to start toying with cell but then piccolo snapped him out of it and his face became serious again. I think gohan going down the path of Kai’s is very smart, most Kai’s are quite peaceful as we have been shown so far besides zamasu. Goku-Angel Vegeta- destruction- Gohan-Kai’s
Nice observation. Gohan DOES tend to get a bit cocky whenever he gets a significant power boost like this. Just goes to show that he's matured a lot since he first went Super Saiyan 2.
@@InnovativeJdawg Part of his cockiness here wasn't just his own power growth, it was the sheer gap in power between his current self and his opponent. Look at the way Gohan tanked Cell Max' full power punch and didn't budge a millimeter. I read somewhere that in the storyboard or Toriyama's notes or something that the reason Cell Max made that last ditch giant blast was out of terror of Gohan's Power. Beast Gohan is at least twice as powerful as Cell Max (who is enough more powerful than Broly that Broly would have no chance if Cell Max had a fully developed mind) but we honestly have no way to measure just how high that power gap really is
I love this, I’m so glad this is happening. Gohan definitely deserves to be up there with the likes of Goku and Vegeta cus he has Saiyan blood within him, a race with no limits. Ty Toryiama for finally after all these freaking years giving us Gohan a power up so that u can use him more often in more dire and important roles in fights in the story for DB in the future! Go Gohan!!
I love the idea that this may be a form only half sayains can achieve. It makes sense that sayain powers, added with non sayain power would have some sort of new form.
@@Poker2735 same, but cus of the name of the form it still taps into the primal instincts the Saiyans possess when they’re backed to a corner in a fight. Hence introducing, Beast Gohan!
@@xenoshiftgaming_officialto be more accurate this form tap into the primal wild beast that's seeping inside gohan all this time, since gohan since his birth have his power related so much with anger, it's like this since his childhood, the moment he get angry for some reasons his power levels rise so much, and in super hero he finally able to unleash his inner beast complete and achieved his own form, gohan beast. So this form may be unique for gohan, even if trunks and goten got ultimate form, they may not get beast form because its just this something unique for gohan you can say it's something like how broly born with special talents no one have
Key aspect to this form is he didn’t hesitate to kill cell max, he dwelled in his power a bit but realised after picallos words, this might be a key scene in explaining a bit about his new power, beast Gohan, where it might be the Yang to his yin, his human/saiyan blood
@@justajobro1266 sure man , but that being said I thought it could be that in this form we get to see more of his saiyan side to him flourish being battle hungry what have you, and being able to decisively kill his opponent. Where as the gohan we know suppresses a lot of his saiyan traits and is more human in nature. Hence his yin and Yang that ultimately makes him the one with the most potential as Vegita puts it the half saiyans..
Cell was almost a human being in a way he had a personality was able to talk and stuff but cell max was not he was actually a braindead savage which low key made him more like a monster so I understand why there wasn’t hesitation for gohan
Piccolo slightly so. Wish he'd get another spot as at least #2 again but Vegeta is too popular. Really the db formula has been set since Z. New enemy, beat new enemy with new transformation or enough to wear them down, rinse and repeat. Db is stuck with this framework unfortunately
@@NeonAnimeDreams it's appearance, not whether he's possessed. They ought to call him AF Gohan because it looks like something that would be in Dragon Ball AF lol
I just watched the movie 20 mins ago and the movie was just fantastic. I thought the plot really was gonna be a joke but piccolo and pan changed it ever so slightly. Piccolo did the same thing Frieza did for Broly by unlocking that hidden power. I got chills when Gohan went into his beast state! It felt just like when I was a kid and seen him go SSJ2! I really didn’t think the movie would be this good if the plot wasn’t about Goku or Vegeta just because the side characters don’t get much show time but Akira proved that statement wrong. This movie was a 10/10 for me. I just wanted to reminisce about the old gohan and I finally got what I’ve been longing for.
There's definitely a lot of fanservice in this movie and I love it. It's always great when a movie can incorporate plenty of fanservice but not have it overpower the plot.
Bro me and my son went and saw it twice. He’s 5 I watched all of these series when I was little when they just come out on TV like every Wednesday.. It was so crazy I teared up like five times one of the best endings to any movie I’ve ever seen
Gohan's character even from dragonball z main storyline, has a few moments where Gohan rages and goes berserk on his opponents... (Against frieza on namek, against cell, etc).This transformation, the design, the name - *beast* is beautifully put in place.
I'm glad these unique new forms are coming in to help solve power creep while also giving each character different abilities that set them apart from each other
Seeing Gohan Blanco was a fantastic sight to witness! Very happy with how it played out in the movie, and hopefully we will see it again in the near future alongside Vegeta and Goku✨
@@joshuavasquez7603 Fans of the Spanish Dub for the series have called him Gohan Blanco for many years ever since his concept fan art was first introduced. But yeah I understand his canon name is Gohan Beast. I just really like the Spanish dub name better 😜✌️
I am hoping that if Toyotaro adapts this movie into an arc then we can get an actual explanation of Beast Gohan. Until then I am theorizing that Beast Gohan is a combination of Super Saiyan 2 + Ultimate form similar to how Blue is SSJG + SSJ 🤷🏿♂️
Can we please just call Piccolo's new power the Ajisa form? The lore Toriyama created for the Ajisa Trees and the symbol created on Piccolo's Gi makes this the most obvious naming development.
I wouldn't be surprised if Orange Piccolo got another name later on down the line, it happened to Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan. But maybe this time, rather than simplifying the name, they should take the time and make it sound more "cool" and "official" Orange Piccolo is a fine name I guess, but Ajisa would be pretty cool.
Gohan Beast is another "Super Saiyan White" character. Before the Zamasu arc began, Toriyama actually planned for Goku & Vegeta to have white hair instead of blue hair, but it would have color clashed with the new villain in the Zamasu arc who was Zamasu himself or rather Fusion Zamasu. Then in the Tournament of Power arc, Goku received a white haired transformation: Mastered Autonomous Ultra Instinct
Its just Ultra Instinct, there is no autonomous. Also, Goku's hair in MUI form is sipver not white but you're right Toriyama did have white haired form planned.
@@ladslounge2698 For Fusion Zamasu & Gohan Beast. Hopefully Vegeta gets a white haired transformation. Vegeta hasn't even come close to perfecting his Ultra Ego.
I believe there was an interview where it was mentioned that after the Cell Saga, it would be the perfect time to transition into an era where Gohan would become the hero of Earth or even the new main character. I believe in that same interview, they mentioned wanting to give him a form with white hair and a white aura to sumbolize "being the light to ward off darkness/evil" which I believe ended up being Mystic/Ultimate Gohan in the future. As we've seen in super and now in the movie, when he transforms into his Ultimate form when clouds block up the sky, his power completely disperses the clouds like "being the light to ward off darkness" as was mentioned. Personally, the most logical explaination of this form would be a transcended Ultimate form with the white hair being a call back to their original idea
Yeah Gohan was positioned to take over the mantle as protagonist but then took a back seat again. Glad to see he's still getting some spotlight though!
@@InnovativeJdawg I couldn’t agree more. I’ve been a devoted Gohan fan since Day 1 and have been watching DBZ since I can remember as a little kid. It was my very first anime that my mom introduced to me through her experience of watching DB as a teen
Toriyama was struggling to make Gohan as engaging to follow as Goku in the Buu arc. So he made the choice to bring Goku back and push Gohan to the side.
Hopefully there's an actual explanation for it and he became more "beastly" when in this form. It would create a nice contrast of nice, calm gohan in normal state and beast gohan. Gohan's power boost moment aside from third party help is always when he's angry or full of emotion. Intentionally letting his emotion let loose and be as wild as possible would be a cool way for him to grow. Also completely contrasting his dad's method of training to control his ki (SSB) and control emotion (UI)
Yeah we need info on what this form actually is. Because rn it just feels like Toriyamas giving characters transformations regardless of whether or not they actually make sense.
I first watched DBZ back in the Mid 90s... It was on the planet namek saga before Goku showed up. Gohan was the main character in the episode I watched. This movie brought me back there.
Being forced into fighting against his own free will, and not being allowed to make his own choices in life. Not to mention, being afraid of his powers after loosing control and causing the death of his dad. That can all be understandable.
When Piccolo finally unleashed that "little extra" I literally got emotional. May sound stupid but to see Piccolo(maybe the character on a personal level I relate to the most) finally get his due that he deserved, it was like a childhood dream finally reached. I grew up in the late 80s and 90s so in the US I watched it as it was released. Piccolo in my opinion is the the bravest and possibly the best strategist. To see Gohan snap because he truly believed Piccolo was dead made the hair raise on my body. I love this series because it has always stuck to being the fantastic entertainment it is and allows for true imagination go take over. I will forever be in debt to Akira Toriyama for even in my darkest days he kept my imagination alive. I now share this passion with my son and youngest daughter. It was an honor to take them to see the movie together. Thank you!!!!
I remember Piccolo going Giant/Super Namek even if it was not called that in Dragon Ball. An see him going Giant/Super Namek in the movie that was one of the great moments.
I got emotional like 15 times during the whole movie and I saw three times in one weekend, Took my son with me all three times he loved every minute of it
My theory is what if it’s a combination between him being a saiyan and his ultimate potential. Like a similar formula on how Goku created his own version of UI because he’s a saiyan?
While it's incredibly unlikely, I'd love nothing more than for Gohan's Inner Beast to be his Inner Ox Demon. A facet of his power inherited through his mother.
I went to see this with my friends and my girlfriend came along and when gohan transformed everyone lost their shit and she was like yall are a bunch of grown men cheering and i was like we all grew up watching this and waited years for this to happen 💀
When I saw the movie in theaters, there were a few people who got extremely hype over it because they hadn't seen the spoilers. It was a great experience, I loved seeing everybody get hype for Gohan again
Gohan will become the SSJ4 in this canon. Being half human/saiyan, it would only make real since for him to have humanoid form of the great ape. I think Beast Gohan is just like UI omen.
Gohan and Broly seem to be the two most likely candidates for a canonical version of Super Saiyan 4. Regardless of who gets it, it would be really cool to see them interact and train with each other.
@@Moshuun his potential comes from his human side, not his Saiyan side. going the SSJ4 route and using Oozaru would go against that. he doesn't need Oozaru to be strong, his own unlocked potential is enough.
i believe gohans new form is a amped version of his mystic form along with his rare sayain rage (just like broly via his eyes). ealier in the movie goku is training broly and tells him to control his rage which he cant. however gohans mystic form alows him to control that rage. which gives you gohan beast or i like to call it "Ultra Mystic"
this is the correct explanation, Toriyama said Beast is based on the sort of awakenings Gohan had as a boy. So it's likely Ultimate multiplied by his rage ability from when he was a kid.
@@mohitnair2541 also a theory that gohans mystic form is a similar version of gokus ultra Instinct because both transformations is a form of the angels. via the white hair. i believe that when gohan uses base mystic (black hair) hes very calm and pesise in his fighting style like goku in UI omen (again black hair). however gohans new mystic form is different because he also has rage which gives him that purple aura like the gods of destruction. so maybe "beast gohan" is perfect mix between the two (angel form and god of destruction). it could be because hes had his protential unleashed several times which is why he can achieve that form. also his human side gives a edge as well.
@@InnovativeJdawg exactly, this form is Gohan's power and character in one form. He always struggled with releasing his true power, and whenever he did he couldn't control it. This form lets him do both.
He also explained that he was training for something other than super saiyan, hence how he reached this form and not a new super sayain form like he did with super sayain 2,
SETTING GOHAN UP TO BE NEXT IN LINE TO BE A KAI IS AMAZING 👏 IT FITS WELL KNOW THAT ITS ALOT OF LEARNING AND STUDYING WITH BEING A KAI, THAT'LL ALSO MEAN VEGETA WOULD BE TOUGH ON GOHAN KNOWING THAT HE MAY BE NEXT IN LINE TO BE A GOD OF DESTRUCTION SINCE THEY'RE LIVES WOULD BE CONNECTED .
I like how Toriyama named it "Gohan Beast" like the beasts that bring the end of the world (like from Fate Grand Order / Fate Universe). I thought it was an anti-God transformation given that Goku and Vegeta now have god-like powers. Gohan was the "God slayer" or "Beast" but again that's just an opinion and not cannon.
im 100% sure im not the only one who had this reaction when i first saw it but isnt it crazy that remember way back like 2010 or so and even before fan art of sjj 5 was all white hair with red eyes it honestly made it so much cooler to look back and remember those days when i was a kid waiting for ssj 5 to come and basically it did with beast form ;-; it made the movie 10x better
Gohan absolutely deserves this new form. It's a unique callback to the same mysterious potential he harbored throughout the entire series. Can't wait to see the reactions of Goku, Vegeta, and the rest of the gang. It's not just about training. It's about being your truest self and Gohan always does things HIS way.
Just got back from the theater, movie was fucking amazing. And Gohan finally got some spotlight, I hope when DBS picks back up next year we'll see more of Beast Gohan
I feel like beast Gohan is a super saiyan version of Ultimate Gohan similar to how super saiyan blue is a super saiyain version of super saiyan god (thats alota super saiyans in one sentence damn)
That's a nice way of looking at it, I actually thought that way too when I first learned about the form. Probably not the exact same thing as SSJB being the "SSJ" version of Super Saiyan God, but maybe the concept is the same. Gohan going Super Saiyan ON TOP of his Ultimate form.
It’s probably a mix of Ultimate Gohan, Super Saiyan, and Gohan’s rage boosts. Like I think it’d make sense if he could only access this form while really pissed off and with no inhibitions.
The only reason why I think this is another asspull of a form is because, you’d think gohan would pushed to his limits with the idea of his whole universe being destroyed.
@@InnovativeJdawg Yeah, I always found it weird when they said he didn’t need to go Super Saiyan while in his Ultimate form, but like with Blue Kaioken, it should have theoretically stacked.
Movie definitely had issues... this is the third time we have "unlocked Gohan's potential", but the fight scenes were great, music was phenomenal, and most importantly it was just enjoyable to watch.
It’s quite simple, in my opinion it goes like this The Angel: Son Goku - Using the technique that the gods cannot reach, which the angels have mastered The God of Destruction: Vegeta - The prince of pride who siphons hakai energy to always get up The Kai: Gohan - The humble warrior combining the power of potential unleashed and god ki The God of Earth (Shenron/Kami) - Piccolo, by achieving true balance and getting his power unleashed by Shenron Wildcards: Broly, need I say more?
With this new form for gohan, I like to think that its a mix of Ultimate and SSJ. Kinda like how SSG was mixed with SSJ to make SSB. But i'd love to hear your guy's thoughts on this.
(There is a TLDR at the bottom) Honestly, my initial though was that he was similar to Broly. Broly is the legendary super saiyan with incredible potential. My thoughts are that Gohans form is something kinda similar, the difference in biology being the reason his form is different. The first reason for this is that, despite both goten and trunks being literal prodigies, both going super saiyan at the ripe ages of 3 and 4, no one talks about their “untapped potential to be the strongest”. Yet this has been repeatedly stated about Gohan, much like people say the same thing about Broly. This makes me think that perhaps Gohan is some sort of legendary half-saiyan. The second reason is because the both have some connection to the great ape form. When Gohan first goes SSJ2 against cell, there is a faint sound of an great ape roar in the background of his yell. It has been stated in DBS: Broly that Broly taps into the great ape form without Turning into a great ape. Beast gohan is clearly a spin on super saiyan 2, which is linked to the great ape. This leads me to think that perhaps this beast form is how gohan is taping into the power of the great ape without turning into one. It would also then make even more sense why his form is called beast gohan. The last reason is because of the places their powers go to. Goku’s ultra instinct is similar to the angel’s power, and Vegeta’s ultra ego similar to the god of destructions powers. Yet both Broly and Gohan, (though Gohans form does look similar to ultra instinct) have no power that they lead into. There are several gods of destruction, and several angels, but only 1 legendary saiyan (in their universe, I keep forgetting Kefla exists) and only 1 beast saiyan. These 2 are one of a kind powers that nobody has seen. A point against this theory is that gohan looks like ultra instinct, so maybe he is just taping into that. The only real counter point to that is flimsy, just that if it was ultra instinct it would be called ultra instinct. Maybe this is ultra instinct and something else combined, a power combination we have only seen gohan do to lead to beast saiyan form. All in all, this is just my little theory on what it is. If gohan isn’t some legendary half-saiyan, it make me hope we will get to see goten and trunks, and see a movie where they get a unique form, even if it isn’t insanely strong. Also, why does no one talk about how they are literal prodigies? Like they achieved something incredible for fun, and Goku nor Vegeta talk about it. Like come on man, show my boys some love for cryin out loud TL:DR: my theory is that gohan is some sort of legendary half-saiyan, just like Broly is the legendary saiyan
@@theepheonix1700 Honestly this theory makes sense to me. Especially when thinking back to all the times when Gohan has gotten stronger or gotten back into the world of fighting with a few days or hours in Dragon Ball Super's case. A Legendary Half-Saiyan sounds really cool!
@@theepheonix1700 the ultra instinct theory makes no sense. He doesn’t display any of the properties of the technique. It’s more so an upgraded ultimate form.
I really enjoyed this breakdown of the form it's a lot of things I didn't even remember. I agree with the theory about Gohan’s connection to the Kais too but all in all, id give the movie a solid 8-8.5 maybe
In my opinion the movie was a treasure trove of great fan service, piccolo shining and yet also a good amount of missed potential and a Lackluster ending.
I personally thought the fanservice was balanced well enough with the plot and I enjoyed a large chunk of the movie. The beginning felt a bit slow, but I thought the ending was alright
Yeah he did, but it's most likely that the Elder Kai only drew forth potential he had at the time. In reality, as long as Dragon Ball continues, the story will find ways for Gohan to keep breaking through his limits even if it seems like he's already reached the peak of them. The best way of explaining Gohan Beast is that he had his powers awakened in the past and this time around, he got so angry and just broke into a new realm of opportunity just like what happened when he transformed into a Super Saiyan 2 against Cell. Everybody thought the basic Super Saiyan form and it's extended grades were the strongest Saiyans could get, but Gohan proved that wrong and broke into something new
That's a cool concept, a form taking over the mind of the user. We've kinda seen it with the SSJ Berserk form in Dragon Ball Heroes, but that'd be a cool thing to see at some point in the main series.
@@InnovativeJdawg the concept of a villain taking over the body of a Z fighter has been used in both Dragon Ball Super & GT: DRAGON BALL SUPER Zamasu, the villain of the Future Trunks arc took over the body of a Goku from an unknown timeline using the Super Dragon Balls DRAGON BALL GT Baby, a machine mutant Tuffle parasite born on planet M2 took over the body of Vegeta & possessed most of the Dragon Team
@@joshualowe959 I know. I’m not talking about a different character taking over the body of a hero. I’m talking about a form corrupting the mind of a hero and making them act evil. Like Majin Vegeta, but to a higher extent
Gohan's new form is cool but I don't really like how the writers just decided to make him OP out of nowhere. Yes he has high potential but he stopped fighting for a long time, doesn't train anymore only fights if earth is in danger. Gohan can get near the level of goku & vegeta but those two are constantly fighting and training everyday. It wouldn't make sense for Gohan to catch up out of nowhere unless he decided to train for 10 years in hyperbolic time chamber lol.
Nah. Gohan got back his mystic form after he trained with piccolo and goku. Gohan at age 11 was already stronger than ssj goku and vegeta and was the only one to get ssj2 for years! Until the buu saga came and vegeta and goku mastered ssj2 and goku with 3. Even then it was stated Mystic Gohan was stronger than SSJ3 goku. Gohan always had the potential piccolo stressed this a thousand times in the movie. Gohan knocked out radiz with a head but at the age of 6. Listen to your self my man. Gohan not suppose to be himself and be the OP character Goku risked his life for Gohan to achieve?
I agree that sometimes, it sucks that Gohan (and Future Trunks to an extent) can just asspull forms and become stronger than the characters who train each and every day. But I can also see that there's big story significance behind each time they asspull a form because they're hybrid saiyans and are known to have higher potential.
Its the same with frieza if I'm honest he trained for 6 months n got to ssb level from being just ss level. Now he even has his new black form that's stronger then ui goku. So gohan gettin his flowers doesn't bother me.
Super Saiyan is the form that draws on Saiyan Evil. UI is freedom from all this and is pure Battle IQ let loose. Ultra Ego: is pure pride, a Saiyan trait pushed to the max. What if Beast Gohan, is the human heart that feels pure suffering unlike saiyans. When the human heart is broken it becomes a beast instead of a man.
One thing you missed, he's a Hybrid Saiyan. They have proven that their pure heart naturally makes them strong, alongside the rage that fuels Saiyans allowing their power to surge even higher. How many times has Gohans' rage been unleashed, and it resulted it a power surge? Also, one thing I always thought was interesting, is he's had his potential awakened twice to my knowledge. How much fucking potential does he have?! First Grand Elder Guru, then Elder Kai. I can't remember them all, but as of now there are two instances when Gohans' rage caused an explosion of power, that directly resulted in a transformation. Cell games, well after Elder Guru, and now, well after Elder Kai
the special thing about this movie is the comedy doesnt feel corny or cringe its genuinely funny not forced if you watched love and thunder you know what i mean
I just the movie today and this makes me excited for the future. Im also reading the manga, and each character are unlocking power that relates more to them and more than just a simply transformation that make them more powerful.
Didn't they mention that the Kai's were an entirely separate being? I don't think there's a connection to him becoming a kaioshin one day, but that form being influenced by the Kai's I can see.
I don't necessarily mean that he'll become a Kaioshin, I just think it's a nice nod to have this form colored after them. The Kaioshins were responsible for unlocking his potential, so in a way, they could be considered Gohan's "teacher" just like how Goku and Vegeta have their forms colored after their respective teachers.
After the Tournament of Power, which is where the anime ended, the Dragon Ball Super manga never ended, so there's been two more story arcs that anime-watchers haven't seen yet. The Moro arc and the Granolah Arcs haven't been animated yet, so I highly recommend checking out the manga if you haven't. The Moro Arc starts on Chapter 42.
Gohan did train but he slacked off in his training since it’s not the focus of his life some left over momentum from that training combined with the external push made him break past his limits? Please correct if I’m wrong
I personally think Beast looks this way because it's his potential unleashed (white aura) pushed to the max using a form he's familiar with (ssj2) basically a Potential Max Form
It’s pure headcanon but I think it’d make sense if Orange Piccolo was around SSB or Golden Frieza level, while Beast Gohan is Ultra Instinct/Ultra Ego or even Black Frieza tier.
Gohan would be Grand Priest level or a little higher making him a threat and Pan having hidden power like her dad. Also makes her a threat which would lead to the Z Fighters having to fight the G.O.D. and Angels. But somehow they would have to reason with Zeno showing they are not a threat that is why I see the movie also as non-canon.
Orange Piccolo being SSB or Golden Frieza level seems reasonable, I like that idea. Beast Gohan being on the tier of the stronger characters is also very realistic, so seems like you're right!
No not really yellow..The Gamma we're stated to rival Goku and Vegeta... orange Piccolo is beyond blue Goku and Vegeta and even put somewhat of fight against Cell Max. So Orange Piccolo Would Be as Strong as Broly from the previous film
There was six people in my theater when I watched it i brought my dad and uncle just an hour ago and I had to hold in my scream when I saw gohan transform
I would love to see a Dragon Ball spin-off focusing on Gohan’s career as a researcher/professor and balancing that career with his family life and Z-hero adventures. Sort of Dragon Ball’s take on the Spider-Man / Peter Parker dynamic.
I like to think that Gohan somewhat was able to tap into the god ki realm, and just like SS Blue is the SSGod +Super Saiyan, this beast form would be SSGod+Ultimate form. And since Ultimate is waaay stronger than a regular Super Saiyan, that form is then, far stronger than the SS Blue. I think that Beast Gohan is at least at Blue Evolution/Blue+Kaiokenx20 power level, maybe a bit higher, but not at Ultra Instinct/Ego level.
@@darthchubbz5668 you know that Akira says a lot of shit that doesn't make sense about his own work (it's a old man after all). Also, he never specified in wich form of Goku and Vegeta he surpasses. Akira also said that Orange Piccolo is at Goku/Vegeta level now. Do you honestly believe that Piccolo is MUI/UE level?
@@MaSaHo93 yeah, mui Goku is already trash tier in the manga, and superhero is set after that. I honestly don't like the movie, just for the cannon stuff. It doesn't make any sense, and I think it's stupid Gohan had a random power up because piccolo got punched. And piccolo getting a random power up from shenron. Like they never thought to do that before? But it doesn't matter, the creator said it's cannon and says piccolo is as strong as Vegeta and goku
The beast forms seems a combination things: 1. Since gohan being linked to the Kais and his form resembles the calmness of UI Goku, while the transformation from mystic form to Beast in a rage like ssj2 and Aura of Ego Vegeta. 2. Gohan being linked to the kai's, his outer aura has a resembles to his ultimate/mystic form or this could be his true mystic form just like UI and MUI.
Its kind of like super saiyan 2 but with mystic as a base. Maybe since he had unlocked his full potential his limit breaker super saiyan form became amplified to its max potential.
Possibly, but Gohan doesn't really have any connection to god ki. It's possible that the energy comes from the life link shared between the Kaioshins and the Gods of Destruction, but who knows
For Gohan saying he wanted to become stronger using his human form, Gohan sure borrowed Super Saiyan 3 for Gohan beast form. It seems no matter what Gohan does, his Saiyan side will always be present in Gohan's transformations. So I really can't say it's a unique form.
Allow me to summarize: We needed Gohan to be relevant again so we used his “latent potential” as an excuse and made him saiyan rage into a power up (without training) with a severely rushed plot and nobody important actually died. Let’s be honest, not even Goku or vegeta would’ve fallin for that whole “oh no pan is in danger” bs
I think it actually would've been better if Gohan Beast was activated out of Gohan thinking Pan died during that purple blast sequence. It would've been nice if we didn't know she survived, then Gohan transformed, and then when the fight is over we see Pan flying successfully.
@@InnovativeJdawg Exactly! Anything but what they gave us. Especially because the movies was already leaked. At least give us some scare or shock value
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Can piccolo unlock the potential of nail and kami????
@@michaeljones5209
Yes he can
Check out more about Gohan's beast form and insight to Gohan's future.
Final Gohan = SSJ2+Mystic form,I like to think of it similar to gokus SSB+Kaioken form.
I think they had Piccolo change color because they felt sorry for him for not catching up with Goku. Just like people felt sorry for Gohan for not taking over the spotlight, and be the new hero in his father's place.
I liked the Super Heroes movie over all, it offered something fresh by expanding the DB lore and developing other characters that are not Goku and Vegeta. It wasn't perfect but definitely a worth rewatching, which is something I plan to do 💯
I now like how saiyans have growth spurts, or why gohan can't catch, and piccolo cant drive do to never getting his license 🤣
I agree! It was about time we got another DB movie that focused on other characters, and Super Hero was definitely a good one!
seen it twice and really debating on going one more time today lol
Appreciate you sharing
Agreed.
Gohan has destroyed Cell Juniors, Cell himself & now Cell Max. He should be named: Gohan the Cell Slayer
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Did you know that not all Cell Jrs were killed?
Call him the mitochondria because he's the powerhouse of cells
@@TheReecesl94 literally beat me to it
Gohon is consistently smoking all variety of good cell packs 😂
It’s always been interesting to me. Gohan’s potential has always been so high but unlike his father and vegeta who are full Saiyans. I feel like his emotions effect him more due to him also being human. Especially because of how emotional humans can be in comparison to saiyans
You know how Oozaru are so powerful and get more and more anger. The Humans and Saiyans emotions are different the Saiyans was a savage race of power, pride and fighting in universe 7. Okay Humans have meaning different emotions mix the two you have a extreme power boost and Gohan. Who has become more enraged than any other character in the whole serie.
It's them P-Cells or smt. Vegeta was talking about them with Nappa, but the concept hasn't returned since them
Prolly why him and trunks really cool
I think Gohans energy represents balance. White angelic hair but surrounded by purple destructive energy. It's what whis has been trying to get through to vegeta and goku.
Interesting idea, I actually like that a lot! It ties in nicely to Gohan being tied to the Kaioshins too because they're the middle ground between Gods of Destruction and their Angels.
"white angelic hair", what bible are you reading?
No angel has white hair. :D
@@NimerionTech We're talking about DB not the damn bible bro
Definitely was thinking the same thing! His speed and combat prowess reeks of UI. His overall bravado and battle hungry personality lines up with UE. His overall tone is reminiscent of SSJ2 but with the polish of Ultimate/Mystic Gohan.
Now Gohan and piccolo got the new form.its better they start the training and learn new ability.
I’m just happy that what Gohan stated he wanted to achieve in DBS was finally brought to light here.
Agreed, glad that it was foreshadowed!
Yea he stops being a fucking nerd for once in his pathetic boring life
I am in the belief that Gohans Transfornation may be something similar to Vegetas, something drawn from within, Gokus is actually very different in the sense that anyone could learn it but with Gohans and Vegetas it is a strict result of their personalities so to speak. Gokus Ultra Instinct is the flow state in its purest form, a fitting form for the man whos life is eat, train, sleep, repeat. Vegetas Ultra Ego is literally drawn from his sheer self confidence that has stood the test of many sorrowful beatings. And Gohans is drawn from something a little darker, Gohans Ssj2 transformation was also similar, Gohan became colder in that form, but in this state, it seems his mind has a pure focus to simply delete whatever entity dared touch his friends.
Interesting idea!
I love this and that ending got me laughing.
goku was also being lead towards UI his entire life, roshi taught him the true blue basics, mr.popo a being who was born in otherworld and sent to earth taught him to move faster than lightning but be as calm and quiet as the sky, korin taught him how to control his breathing, king kai taught him how to properly control ki (kai-o ken) and obviously whis taught him to try and allow his body to move on its own. and all of these masters also told him to build his mind as well as his body
Thats my opinion as well. But in my opinion its evolved version of potential unkeashed just like vegetas evolved ss blue. But this could be as well.
Gohan Beast is Ultimate Gohan mixed with Super Saiyan 2. It's pretty obvious design wise as well. They did this so that in the future whenever he get's god Ki, he will still have Ultimate Wrapped around whatever new forms he uses. Thus making all his forms UNIQUE to himself as he always wanted.
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Ik I couldn't be the only one
Before this came about I made a character similar called Gohan Mystic Rage
@@marhan1332 i think its the version of super saiyan 3 for gohan.
with the original purpse from toriama he had a shoter hair and white but in the anime they made a differnet version of ssj3 for goku
Seeing this and Piccolo Orange gave me that same feeling of intense excitement as the introduction of Gotenks and Vegito! It’s that monumental!
we've been waiting like 20 years
I’m sorry you’re so gay
If you saw gohan face after he smirks at cells giant blast he was about to start toying with cell but then piccolo snapped him out of it and his face became serious again. I think gohan going down the path of Kai’s is very smart, most Kai’s are quite peaceful as we have been shown so far besides zamasu. Goku-Angel Vegeta- destruction- Gohan-Kai’s
Nice observation. Gohan DOES tend to get a bit cocky whenever he gets a significant power boost like this. Just goes to show that he's matured a lot since he first went Super Saiyan 2.
@@InnovativeJdawg Part of his cockiness here wasn't just his own power growth, it was the sheer gap in power between his current self and his opponent.
Look at the way Gohan tanked Cell Max' full power punch and didn't budge a millimeter.
I read somewhere that in the storyboard or Toriyama's notes or something that the reason Cell Max made that last ditch giant blast was out of terror of Gohan's Power.
Beast Gohan is at least twice as powerful as Cell Max (who is enough more powerful than Broly that Broly would have no chance if Cell Max had a fully developed mind) but we honestly have no way to measure just how high that power gap really is
Noticed the exact same thing and got worried Gohan would fuck it up again like he did with perfect cell
Piccolo - dragons? 👀
@@afg99061 Piccolo: "RED FLAG!"
“Power comes in response to a need, not a desire, son.”
Tell that to vegeta 😂
I love this, I’m so glad this is happening. Gohan definitely deserves to be up there with the likes of Goku and Vegeta cus he has Saiyan blood within him, a race with no limits. Ty Toryiama for finally after all these freaking years giving us Gohan a power up so that u can use him more often in more dire and important roles in fights in the story for DB in the future! Go Gohan!!
Gohan's back, and not just any Gohan, but the rageful and cocky Gohan from back in the day.
I agree, I love it!
I love the idea that this may be a form only half sayains can achieve. It makes sense that sayain powers, added with non sayain power would have some sort of new form.
@@Poker2735 same, but cus of the name of the form it still taps into the primal instincts the Saiyans possess when they’re backed to a corner in a fight. Hence introducing, Beast Gohan!
@@xenoshiftgaming_officialto be more accurate this form tap into the primal wild beast that's seeping inside gohan all this time, since gohan since his birth have his power related so much with anger, it's like this since his childhood, the moment he get angry for some reasons his power levels rise so much, and in super hero he finally able to unleash his inner beast complete and achieved his own form, gohan beast.
So this form may be unique for gohan, even if trunks and goten got ultimate form, they may not get beast form because its just this something unique for gohan you can say it's something like how broly born with special talents no one have
Key aspect to this form is he didn’t hesitate to kill cell max, he dwelled in his power a bit but realised after picallos words, this might be a key scene in explaining a bit about his new power, beast Gohan, where it might be the Yang to his yin, his human/saiyan blood
Interesting theory!
Or he may have learnt a lesson from dragon ball z and realised that he should probably kill cell before he does some other creepy shit
"that all u got......... MY TURNNNNN "
@@justajobro1266 sure man , but that being said I thought it could be that in this form we get to see more of his saiyan side to him flourish being battle hungry what have you, and being able to decisively kill his opponent. Where as the gohan we know suppresses a lot of his saiyan traits and is more human in nature. Hence his yin and Yang that ultimately makes him the one with the most potential as Vegita puts it the half saiyans..
Cell was almost a human being in a way he had a personality was able to talk and stuff but cell max was not he was actually a braindead savage which low key made him more like a monster so I understand why there wasn’t hesitation for gohan
This was the movie we waited for, the two people we really wanted to get so much stronger. Especially Gohan 🔥🔥
Glad they both got the spotlight!
Piccolo slightly so. Wish he'd get another spot as at least #2 again but Vegeta is too popular. Really the db formula has been set since Z. New enemy, beat new enemy with new transformation or enough to wear them down, rinse and repeat. Db is stuck with this framework unfortunately
they should call him demon gohan not beast gohan
@@gill000012 but he's not possessed
@@NeonAnimeDreams it's appearance, not whether he's possessed. They ought to call him AF Gohan because it looks like something that would be in Dragon Ball AF lol
I just watched the movie 20 mins ago and the movie was just fantastic. I thought the plot really was gonna be a joke but piccolo and pan changed it ever so slightly. Piccolo did the same thing Frieza did for Broly by unlocking that hidden power. I got chills when Gohan went into his beast state! It felt just like when I was a kid and seen him go SSJ2! I really didn’t think the movie would be this good if the plot wasn’t about Goku or Vegeta just because the side characters don’t get much show time but Akira proved that statement wrong. This movie was a 10/10 for me. I just wanted to reminisce about the old gohan and I finally got what I’ve been longing for.
There's definitely a lot of fanservice in this movie and I love it. It's always great when a movie can incorporate plenty of fanservice but not have it overpower the plot.
Bro me and my son went and saw it twice. He’s 5 I watched all of these series when I was little when they just come out on TV like every Wednesday.. It was so crazy I teared up like five times one of the best endings to any movie I’ve ever seen
Yes you said it perfectly. I also give it a 10/10. I’m buying the Blu-ray soon as it releases and it’s going top shelf.
I almost shed a tear when Gohan finished him off with special beam cannon
It was a great moment for sure
Gohan's character even from dragonball z main storyline, has a few moments where Gohan rages and goes berserk on his opponents... (Against frieza on namek, against cell, etc).This transformation, the design, the name - *beast* is beautifully put in place.
Oozaru Gohan.
I mean he rages against raditz its always been there
Exactly 😃
@@loganmatthews5956 Very true it’s always been there back in the day they called it unlocked potential Gohan.
Gohan has been raging his ass off since he was a baby in a stroller up to his adult🤣. Tree? Mountain? Raditz? Nappa? Vegeta? Frieza? Cell? Cell max?
I'm glad these unique new forms are coming in to help solve power creep while also giving each character different abilities that set them apart from each other
I agree.
Agreed
What different abilities?
i agree
This isn’t solving power creep. It’s just adding to it. They do look cool tho.
Seeing Gohan Blanco was a fantastic sight to witness! Very happy with how it played out in the movie, and hopefully we will see it again in the near future alongside Vegeta and Goku✨
It's a safe bet we'll see it again in the future! I just hope we learn more about it
gohan "blanco"
The funny thing is if he had magical tequila before with knowing it was magical then this is true blanco
Beast not blanco
@@joshuavasquez7603 Fans of the Spanish Dub for the series have called him Gohan Blanco for many years ever since his concept fan art was first introduced. But yeah I understand his canon name is Gohan Beast. I just really like the Spanish dub name better 😜✌️
I am hoping that if Toyotaro adapts this movie into an arc then we can get an actual explanation of Beast Gohan. Until then I am theorizing that Beast Gohan is a combination of Super Saiyan 2 + Ultimate form similar to how Blue is SSJG + SSJ 🤷🏿♂️
That could be like a multiplier of 2 to 6 million.
It’s likely to be the manifestation of his rage and infinite potential. A natural progression in his “transformation “ tree.
You forgot to include mystic as well
Yeah that is what I am thinking as well, he has channeled his ki over the base of an ultimate form
I like to think this new form is a combination of gohans mystic ki and god ki but that’s impossible
Can we please just call Piccolo's new power the Ajisa form? The lore Toriyama created for the Ajisa Trees and the symbol created on Piccolo's Gi makes this the most obvious naming development.
I like to call it dragon king piccolo, seeing as he got the power from shenron and he was once a demon king
nah orange
I wouldn't be surprised if Orange Piccolo got another name later on down the line, it happened to Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan. But maybe this time, rather than simplifying the name, they should take the time and make it sound more "cool" and "official"
Orange Piccolo is a fine name I guess, but Ajisa would be pretty cool.
I was thinking Namekian God
Gohan Beast is another "Super Saiyan White" character. Before the Zamasu arc began, Toriyama actually planned for Goku & Vegeta to have white hair instead of blue hair, but it would have color clashed with the new villain in the Zamasu arc who was Zamasu himself or rather Fusion Zamasu. Then in the Tournament of Power arc, Goku received a white haired transformation: Mastered Autonomous Ultra Instinct
Its just Ultra Instinct, there is no autonomous. Also, Goku's hair in MUI form is sipver not white but you're right Toriyama did have white haired form planned.
@@ladslounge2698 For Fusion Zamasu & Gohan Beast. Hopefully Vegeta gets a white haired transformation. Vegeta hasn't even come close to perfecting his Ultra Ego.
@@ladslounge2698 all anal.
I believe there was an interview where it was mentioned that after the Cell Saga, it would be the perfect time to transition into an era where Gohan would become the hero of Earth or even the new main character. I believe in that same interview, they mentioned wanting to give him a form with white hair and a white aura to sumbolize "being the light to ward off darkness/evil" which I believe ended up being Mystic/Ultimate Gohan in the future. As we've seen in super and now in the movie, when he transforms into his Ultimate form when clouds block up the sky, his power completely disperses the clouds like "being the light to ward off darkness" as was mentioned. Personally, the most logical explaination of this form would be a transcended Ultimate form with the white hair being a call back to their original idea
Yeah Gohan was positioned to take over the mantle as protagonist but then took a back seat again. Glad to see he's still getting some spotlight though!
@@InnovativeJdawg I couldn’t agree more. I’ve been a devoted Gohan fan since Day 1 and have been watching DBZ since I can remember as a little kid. It was my very first anime that my mom introduced to me through her experience of watching DB as a teen
@@z4ck_fr4gzz0ut3 Yup, literally grew up with Gohan.
Toriyama was struggling to make Gohan as engaging to follow as Goku in the Buu arc. So he made the choice to bring Goku back and push Gohan to the side.
Hopefully there's an actual explanation for it and he became more "beastly" when in this form. It would create a nice contrast of nice, calm gohan in normal state and beast gohan. Gohan's power boost moment aside from third party help is always when he's angry or full of emotion. Intentionally letting his emotion let loose and be as wild as possible would be a cool way for him to grow. Also completely contrasting his dad's method of training to control his ki (SSB) and control emotion (UI)
Agreed! It's very interesting to see how different methods lead to different results.
Yeah we need info on what this form actually is. Because rn it just feels like Toriyamas giving characters transformations regardless of whether or not they actually make sense.
He’s obviously going super sayain 2 inside of his ultimate form. Childs play.
honestly pretty much this, even mimics SS2 in everyway just adding ultimate form into it like how SSG is the same for normal SS
I’m kinda angry nobody is explaining the new forms anymore. Like wtf is super saiyan rage and what the hell is beast gohan
I know, makes me want to Goku-coo!
It was really nice to see a Dragon Ball movie that isn’t all about Goku and Vegeta
Agreed!
I first watched DBZ back in the Mid 90s... It was on the planet namek saga before Goku showed up. Gohan was the main character in the episode I watched. This movie brought me back there.
Gohan went through alot as a kid man it honestly makes sense why he wanted to leave fighting behind
Being forced into fighting against his own free will, and not being allowed to make his own choices in life. Not to mention, being afraid of his powers after loosing control and causing the death of his dad. That can all be understandable.
@@dreamguardian8320 he wanted to go to namek and fight. He didn't want to fight in the Saiyan saga end of story
When Piccolo finally unleashed that "little extra" I literally got emotional. May sound stupid but to see Piccolo(maybe the character on a personal level I relate to the most) finally get his due that he deserved, it was like a childhood dream finally reached. I grew up in the late 80s and 90s so in the US I watched it as it was released. Piccolo in my opinion is the the bravest and possibly the best strategist. To see Gohan snap because he truly believed Piccolo was dead made the hair raise on my body. I love this series because it has always stuck to being the fantastic entertainment it is and allows for true imagination go take over. I will forever be in debt to Akira Toriyama for even in my darkest days he kept my imagination alive. I now share this passion with my son and youngest daughter. It was an honor to take them to see the movie together. Thank you!!!!
I remember Piccolo going Giant/Super Namek even if it was not called that in Dragon Ball. An see him going Giant/Super Namek in the movie that was one of the great moments.
Especially how he's treated in super, of all characters Piccolo needed a power boost
@@Th3SP1C I Agree.
I got emotional like 15 times during the whole movie and I saw three times in one weekend, Took my son with me all three times he loved every minute of it
@@thanosbustedinyourmum What made you so emotional? An it is great to hear your son enjoys what you do.
"His inner beast is unleashed"
-Akira Toriyama
My theory is what if it’s a combination between him being a saiyan and his ultimate potential. Like a similar formula on how Goku created his own version of UI because he’s a saiyan?
You know you're onto something! Like what if this is ss2 mixed with ultimate Gohan form. Like how goku uses blue and Kioken x20
I'm pretty sure most of us have come to this conclusion already
I thought it was because he was finally able the befriend the Kyuubi Kurama
While it's incredibly unlikely, I'd love nothing more than for Gohan's Inner Beast to be his Inner Ox Demon.
A facet of his power inherited through his mother.
That's actually pretty interesting!
The hidden power of the ox king. Ox in the box reveals his true power
@@basimali619 funny enough in one source (tree of might reference pamphlet I think, could be wrong) Ox King's power level is listed at 900
You know I completely forgot about that
Beast Gohan really looks like a combo of UI and UE... it's very suspicious lol
I went to see this with my friends and my girlfriend came along and when gohan transformed everyone lost their shit and she was like yall are a bunch of grown men cheering and i was like we all grew up watching this and waited years for this to happen 💀
When I saw the movie in theaters, there were a few people who got extremely hype over it because they hadn't seen the spoilers. It was a great experience, I loved seeing everybody get hype for Gohan again
Gohan will become the SSJ4 in this canon. Being half human/saiyan, it would only make real since for him to have humanoid form of the great ape. I think Beast Gohan is just like UI omen.
No that will most likely be Broly, he has the humanoid Great Ape form already. Gohan said he wants to evolve as a human, not a Saiyan.
Gohan and Broly seem to be the two most likely candidates for a canonical version of Super Saiyan 4. Regardless of who gets it, it would be really cool to see them interact and train with each other.
@@mohitnair2541 but he has the best potential.
@@InnovativeJdawg I think Legendary SSJ/SSJ4 Gohan/ Ui Goku & Ue Vegeta is a crazy line up. Even throw black Frieza in there. Lol.
@@Moshuun his potential comes from his human side, not his Saiyan side. going the SSJ4 route and using Oozaru would go against that. he doesn't need Oozaru to be strong, his own unlocked potential is enough.
i believe gohans new form is a amped version of his mystic form along with his rare sayain rage (just like broly via his eyes). ealier in the movie goku is training broly and tells him to control his rage which he cant. however gohans mystic form alows him to control that rage. which gives you gohan beast or i like to call it "Ultra Mystic"
this is the correct explanation, Toriyama said Beast is based on the sort of awakenings Gohan had as a boy. So it's likely Ultimate multiplied by his rage ability from when he was a kid.
@@mohitnair2541 also a theory that gohans mystic form is a similar version of gokus ultra Instinct because both transformations is a form of the angels. via the white hair. i believe that when gohan uses base mystic (black hair) hes very calm and pesise in his fighting style like goku in UI omen (again black hair). however gohans new mystic form is different because he also has rage which gives him that purple aura like the gods of destruction. so maybe "beast gohan" is perfect mix between the two (angel form and god of destruction). it could be because hes had his protential unleashed several times which is why he can achieve that form. also his human side gives a edge as well.
I like that idea of this form being the physical embodiment of Gohan controlling his rage and turning it into something to amplify his full potential.
@@InnovativeJdawg exactly, this form is Gohan's power and character in one form. He always struggled with releasing his true power, and whenever he did he couldn't control it. This form lets him do both.
He also explained that he was training for something other than super saiyan, hence how he reached this form and not a new super sayain form like he did with super sayain 2,
Ultimate Gohan= peak human power unleashed
Beast Gohan=saiyan base peak power unleashed
Nice video i haven’t watched since the granola video last year im glad to be back and i hope you keep growing
Thank you!
Finally man someone who says it all perfectly without offending anyone.Not saying he's the strongest or the worst.Great video,keep it up!
SETTING GOHAN UP TO BE NEXT IN LINE TO BE A KAI IS AMAZING 👏 IT FITS WELL KNOW THAT ITS ALOT OF LEARNING AND STUDYING WITH BEING A KAI, THAT'LL ALSO MEAN VEGETA WOULD BE TOUGH ON GOHAN KNOWING THAT HE MAY BE NEXT IN LINE TO BE A GOD OF DESTRUCTION SINCE THEY'RE LIVES WOULD BE CONNECTED .
That would be a really cool story concept actually.
I would love that concept then goku basically having power of an angel without actually being an angel lol.
And they would be strongest god and Kai’s cause they would be equal in power and goku their Angel would be crazy and frieza the strongest warrior lol
Can you "become" a Kai though? They are supposed to be born from some divine tree right?
@@digitaladventurer2142 you might be right , however it may be an alternate ritual they may create 🤷🏾♂️ the writers always find ways
I like how Toriyama named it "Gohan Beast" like the beasts that bring the end of the world (like from Fate Grand Order / Fate Universe). I thought it was an anti-God transformation given that Goku and Vegeta now have god-like powers. Gohan was the "God slayer" or "Beast" but again that's just an opinion and not cannon.
That's a nice theory! It would be pretty cool for there to be god slayer type forms in the series.
What? Makes no sense
Ahh yes Mr Satan
im 100% sure im not the only one who had this reaction when i first saw it but isnt it crazy that remember way back like 2010 or so and even before fan art of sjj 5 was all white hair with red eyes it honestly made it so much cooler to look back and remember those days when i was a kid waiting for ssj 5 to come and basically it did with beast form ;-; it made the movie 10x better
SSJ5 definitely seems to be the main inspiration behind the form's design
Gohan absolutely deserves this new form. It's a unique callback to the same mysterious potential he harbored throughout the entire series. Can't wait to see the reactions of Goku, Vegeta, and the rest of the gang. It's not just about training. It's about being your truest self and Gohan always does things HIS way.
Just got back from the theater, movie was fucking amazing. And Gohan finally got some spotlight, I hope when DBS picks back up next year we'll see more of Beast Gohan
Agreed! I loved the movie too and I can't wait to see more of Gohan and Piccolo
Where I will be able to see that next year?
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I feel like beast Gohan is a super saiyan version of Ultimate Gohan similar to how super saiyan blue is a super saiyain version of super saiyan god (thats alota super saiyans in one sentence damn)
That's a nice way of looking at it, I actually thought that way too when I first learned about the form.
Probably not the exact same thing as SSJB being the "SSJ" version of Super Saiyan God, but maybe the concept is the same. Gohan going Super Saiyan ON TOP of his Ultimate form.
It’s probably a mix of Ultimate Gohan, Super Saiyan, and Gohan’s rage boosts. Like I think it’d make sense if he could only access this form while really pissed off and with no inhibitions.
I still hate that they didn't call the Red form just Saiyan God, so Blue would just be Super Saiyan God.
@@someryebread agreed would’ve made it so much less needlessly complicated
*It’s about DAMN TIME!!!👏🏼💯*
It would be crazy if the strongest in the universe they were talking about is Gohan Beast
It's always possible, you never know
But we don't even know if it's stronger than ultra instinct yet.
The only reason why I think this is another asspull of a form is because, you’d think gohan would pushed to his limits with the idea of his whole universe being destroyed.
In the past Goku was around to " save " them . Here it was Gohan or dead planet when Goku returns .
I'd love to see Goku and Vegeta react to this form.
As a kid from 2000's I confirm this as super Saiyan 5 and this is end of conversation 😂
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think about it, means its attainable for trunks too if it's one of those hybrid saiyan only modes
I feel like Super Saiyan Rage was Trunks' variation of this form, we just couldn't see it until now
It’s clearly some evolution of Super Saiyan.
Super Saiyan on top of the potential he had unleashed by the Kais, it's implied
@@InnovativeJdawg Yeah, I always found it weird when they said he didn’t need to go Super Saiyan while in his Ultimate form, but like with Blue Kaioken, it should have theoretically stacked.
rip the king Toriyama
Just like Gohan surpassed his dad in the Cell Games turning Super Sayain 2. He surpassed his dad once again here in Dragon Ball Super Hero.
Movie definitely had issues... this is the third time we have "unlocked Gohan's potential", but the fight scenes were great, music was phenomenal, and most importantly it was just enjoyable to watch.
Agreed! There were some issues, but I loved it regardless
It’s quite simple, in my opinion it goes like this
The Angel: Son Goku - Using the technique that the gods cannot reach, which the angels have mastered
The God of Destruction: Vegeta - The prince of pride who siphons hakai energy to always get up
The Kai: Gohan - The humble warrior combining the power of potential unleashed and god ki
The God of Earth (Shenron/Kami) - Piccolo, by achieving true balance and getting his power unleashed by Shenron
Wildcards: Broly, need I say more?
With this new form for gohan, I like to think that its a mix of Ultimate and SSJ. Kinda like how SSG was mixed with SSJ to make SSB. But i'd love to hear your guy's thoughts on this.
I thought the same thing! It's basically Gohan transforming into a new power on top of the Ultimate form.
(There is a TLDR at the bottom)
Honestly, my initial though was that he was similar to Broly.
Broly is the legendary super saiyan with incredible potential. My thoughts are that Gohans form is something kinda similar, the difference in biology being the reason his form is different.
The first reason for this is that, despite both goten and trunks being literal prodigies, both going super saiyan at the ripe ages of 3 and 4, no one talks about their “untapped potential to be the strongest”. Yet this has been repeatedly stated about Gohan, much like people say the same thing about Broly.
This makes me think that perhaps Gohan is some sort of legendary half-saiyan.
The second reason is because the both have some connection to the great ape form. When Gohan first goes SSJ2 against cell, there is a faint sound of an great ape roar in the background of his yell.
It has been stated in DBS: Broly that Broly taps into the great ape form without Turning into a great ape. Beast gohan is clearly a spin on super saiyan 2, which is linked to the great ape. This leads me to think that perhaps this beast form is how gohan is taping into the power of the great ape without turning into one. It would also then make even more sense why his form is called beast gohan.
The last reason is because of the places their powers go to. Goku’s ultra instinct is similar to the angel’s power, and Vegeta’s ultra ego similar to the god of destructions powers. Yet both Broly and Gohan, (though Gohans form does look similar to ultra instinct) have no power that they lead into. There are several gods of destruction, and several angels, but only 1 legendary saiyan (in their universe, I keep forgetting Kefla exists) and only 1 beast saiyan. These 2 are one of a kind powers that nobody has seen.
A point against this theory is that gohan looks like ultra instinct, so maybe he is just taping into that. The only real counter point to that is flimsy, just that if it was ultra instinct it would be called ultra instinct. Maybe this is ultra instinct and something else combined, a power combination we have only seen gohan do to lead to beast saiyan form.
All in all, this is just my little theory on what it is. If gohan isn’t some legendary half-saiyan, it make me hope we will get to see goten and trunks, and see a movie where they get a unique form, even if it isn’t insanely strong.
Also, why does no one talk about how they are literal prodigies? Like they achieved something incredible for fun, and Goku nor Vegeta talk about it. Like come on man, show my boys some love for cryin out loud
TL:DR: my theory is that gohan is some sort of legendary half-saiyan, just like Broly is the legendary saiyan
@@theepheonix1700 Honestly this theory makes sense to me. Especially when thinking back to all the times when Gohan has gotten stronger or gotten back into the world of fighting with a few days or hours in Dragon Ball Super's case. A Legendary Half-Saiyan sounds really cool!
@@theepheonix1700 the ultra instinct theory makes no sense. He doesn’t display any of the properties of the technique. It’s more so an upgraded ultimate form.
@@gammafrost I thought the same thing, but you know. Wanted to be fair an all
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I really enjoyed this breakdown of the form it's a lot of things I didn't even remember. I agree with the theory about Gohan’s connection to the Kais too but all in all, id give the movie a solid 8-8.5 maybe
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7:45 im sorry but my goofy sense of humour couldnt stop laughing at hairshtyle, great vid tho
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In my opinion the movie was a treasure trove of great fan service, piccolo shining and yet also a good amount of missed potential and a Lackluster ending.
I personally thought the fanservice was balanced well enough with the plot and I enjoyed a large chunk of the movie. The beginning felt a bit slow, but I thought the ending was alright
Correct me if im wrong but didnt gohan have his latent abilities permanently awakened by supreme kai in Z?
Yeah he did, but it's most likely that the Elder Kai only drew forth potential he had at the time. In reality, as long as Dragon Ball continues, the story will find ways for Gohan to keep breaking through his limits even if it seems like he's already reached the peak of them.
The best way of explaining Gohan Beast is that he had his powers awakened in the past and this time around, he got so angry and just broke into a new realm of opportunity just like what happened when he transformed into a Super Saiyan 2 against Cell. Everybody thought the basic Super Saiyan form and it's extended grades were the strongest Saiyans could get, but Gohan proved that wrong and broke into something new
I have a horrifying theory: what if Gohan Beast becomes a vessel for the villain who is said to be even more powerful than Black Frieza
That's a cool concept, a form taking over the mind of the user. We've kinda seen it with the SSJ Berserk form in Dragon Ball Heroes, but that'd be a cool thing to see at some point in the main series.
@@InnovativeJdawg the concept of a villain taking over the body of a Z fighter has been used in both Dragon Ball Super & GT:
DRAGON BALL SUPER
Zamasu, the villain of the Future Trunks arc took over the body of a Goku from an unknown timeline using the Super Dragon Balls
DRAGON BALL GT
Baby, a machine mutant Tuffle parasite born on planet M2 took over the body of Vegeta & possessed most of the Dragon Team
@@joshualowe959 I know. I’m not talking about a different character taking over the body of a hero. I’m talking about a form corrupting the mind of a hero and making them act evil.
Like Majin Vegeta, but to a higher extent
The gohan analogue for goku black. Gohan white maybe? Aka… Gohan Blanco
I love that idea
All I hot to say it's been like over a decade and my boy Gohan finally hot some justice.
True, glad to see it!
Gohan's new form is cool but I don't really like how the writers just decided to make him OP out of nowhere. Yes he has high potential but he stopped fighting for a long time, doesn't train anymore only fights if earth is in danger. Gohan can get near the level of goku & vegeta but those two are constantly fighting and training everyday. It wouldn't make sense for Gohan to catch up out of nowhere unless he decided to train for 10 years in hyperbolic time chamber lol.
Nah. Gohan got back his mystic form after he trained with piccolo and goku. Gohan at age 11 was already stronger than ssj goku and vegeta and was the only one to get ssj2 for years! Until the buu saga came and vegeta and goku mastered ssj2 and goku with 3. Even then it was stated Mystic Gohan was stronger than SSJ3 goku. Gohan always had the potential piccolo stressed this a thousand times in the movie. Gohan knocked out radiz with a head but at the age of 6. Listen to your self my man. Gohan not suppose to be himself and be the OP character Goku risked his life for Gohan to achieve?
I agree that sometimes, it sucks that Gohan (and Future Trunks to an extent) can just asspull forms and become stronger than the characters who train each and every day. But I can also see that there's big story significance behind each time they asspull a form because they're hybrid saiyans and are known to have higher potential.
@@JAllenProductions i believe he was 3 when he took out Raditz
Its the same with frieza if I'm honest he trained for 6 months n got to ssb level from being just ss level. Now he even has his new black form that's stronger then ui goku. So gohan gettin his flowers doesn't bother me.
@@suttonspeshul5585 frieza only trained for four months. For the black form he trained for 10 years
Super Saiyan is the form that draws on Saiyan Evil.
UI is freedom from all this and is pure Battle IQ let loose.
Ultra Ego: is pure pride, a Saiyan trait pushed to the max.
What if Beast Gohan, is the human heart that feels pure suffering unlike saiyans. When the human heart is broken it becomes a beast instead of a man.
One thing you missed, he's a Hybrid Saiyan. They have proven that their pure heart naturally makes them strong, alongside the rage that fuels Saiyans allowing their power to surge even higher. How many times has Gohans' rage been unleashed, and it resulted it a power surge?
Also, one thing I always thought was interesting, is he's had his potential awakened twice to my knowledge. How much fucking potential does he have?!
First Grand Elder Guru, then Elder Kai. I can't remember them all, but as of now there are two instances when Gohans' rage caused an explosion of power, that directly resulted in a transformation. Cell games, well after Elder Guru, and now, well after Elder Kai
the special thing about this movie is the comedy doesnt feel corny or cringe its genuinely funny not forced if you watched love and thunder you know what i mean
Haven't seen Love and Thunder yet, but I agree that Super Hero was funny at points!
Bout time Gohan lived up to his potential they showed during the cell games.
I remember back in 2016 when there were talks about Gohan having white hair as one of his new forms… now here we are!
Time sure does fly, it feels like yesterday when we were all getting hype about Vegito Blue in the Goku Black Saga
I still like to call it gohan blanco
Beast Gohan reminds me of that episode of Code Name kid's next door when numbuh 4 goes super Saiyan lmao
I just the movie today and this makes me excited for the future. Im also reading the manga, and each character are unlocking power that relates more to them and more than just a simply transformation that make them more powerful.
I kinda like this new direction Dragon Ball is going. It's something fresh!
Didn't they mention that the Kai's were an entirely separate being? I don't think there's a connection to him becoming a kaioshin one day, but that form being influenced by the Kai's I can see.
I don't necessarily mean that he'll become a Kaioshin, I just think it's a nice nod to have this form colored after them. The Kaioshins were responsible for unlocking his potential, so in a way, they could be considered Gohan's "teacher" just like how Goku and Vegeta have their forms colored after their respective teachers.
Whats all this about ultra ego vegeta and where can i see it?
It’s manga not animated yet
After the Tournament of Power, which is where the anime ended, the Dragon Ball Super manga never ended, so there's been two more story arcs that anime-watchers haven't seen yet.
The Moro arc and the Granolah Arcs haven't been animated yet, so I highly recommend checking out the manga if you haven't. The Moro Arc starts on Chapter 42.
Gohan did train but he slacked off in his training since it’s not the focus of his life some left over momentum from that training combined with the external push made him break past his limits? Please correct if I’m wrong
I personally think Beast looks this way because it's his potential unleashed (white aura) pushed to the max using a form he's familiar with (ssj2) basically a Potential Max Form
10 years ago looking up what ssj5 looks like and now it’s finally here 🥹🥹🥹
It’s pure headcanon but I think it’d make sense if Orange Piccolo was around SSB or Golden Frieza level, while Beast Gohan is Ultra Instinct/Ultra Ego or even Black Frieza tier.
Gohan would be Grand Priest level or a little higher making him a threat and Pan having hidden power like her dad. Also makes her a threat which would lead to the Z Fighters having to fight the G.O.D. and Angels. But somehow they would have to reason with Zeno showing they are not a threat that is why I see the movie also as non-canon.
Orange Piccolo being SSB or Golden Frieza level seems reasonable, I like that idea. Beast Gohan being on the tier of the stronger characters is also very realistic, so seems like you're right!
No not really yellow..The Gamma we're stated to rival Goku and Vegeta... orange Piccolo is beyond blue Goku and Vegeta and even put somewhat of fight against Cell Max.
So Orange Piccolo Would Be as Strong as Broly from the previous film
@@darkdesireharvest7013 Gohan is not Grand Priest level, this is literally insane.
@@mohitnair2541 Really have you forgot the tournament of power how everyone was getting high insane power ups.
There was six people in my theater when I watched it i brought my dad and uncle just an hour ago and I had to hold in my scream when I saw gohan transform
Nice, hope you enjoyed the movie with them!
New form is called, “gohan always weak, but can sometimes turn it on if he gets a bit angry”
I would love to see a Dragon Ball spin-off focusing on Gohan’s career as a researcher/professor and balancing that career with his family life and Z-hero adventures. Sort of Dragon Ball’s take on the Spider-Man / Peter Parker dynamic.
As a fan of Spider-Man, I'd love to see that too!
That wouldn’t work
Ngl I’ve seen pictures of this form and I deadass thought it was some meme form until I looked up Orange Piccolo and saw that it was actually real
Yeah they're both kinda fever-dream type forms
This form reminded me of Baby Vegeta from GT and i would love to see goku and vegetas reaction to this form.
It definitely has similarities to the color scheme of Baby Vegeta!
Piccolo x Gohan relationship is a thing I want my kids to watch as they grow up
I like to think that Gohan somewhat was able to tap into the god ki realm, and just like SS Blue is the SSGod +Super Saiyan, this beast form would be SSGod+Ultimate form. And since Ultimate is waaay stronger than a regular Super Saiyan, that form is then, far stronger than the SS Blue. I think that Beast Gohan is at least at Blue Evolution/Blue+Kaiokenx20 power level, maybe a bit higher, but not at Ultra Instinct/Ego level.
The creator said Gohan was stronger than both Vegeta and goku
@@darthchubbz5668 you know that Akira says a lot of shit that doesn't make sense about his own work (it's a old man after all). Also, he never specified in wich form of Goku and Vegeta he surpasses. Akira also said that Orange Piccolo is at Goku/Vegeta level now. Do you honestly believe that Piccolo is MUI/UE level?
@@MaSaHo93 yeah, mui Goku is already trash tier in the manga, and superhero is set after that. I honestly don't like the movie, just for the cannon stuff. It doesn't make any sense, and I think it's stupid Gohan had a random power up because piccolo got punched. And piccolo getting a random power up from shenron. Like they never thought to do that before?
But it doesn't matter, the creator said it's cannon and says piccolo is as strong as Vegeta and goku
I feel like beast gohan is a ssj2 and ultimate mix
My theory is that it is a super saiyan transformation over his ultimate form or some kind of evolution of his ultimate form
That seems to be a likely answer
i remember we was saying gohan would have a super saiyan white form years ago before the t.o.p
Loved the movie watched it yesterday, I hope we get more saiyan fights and even Piccolo see where he fits in
Glad you enjoyed it!
The beast forms seems a combination things:
1. Since gohan being linked to the Kais and his form resembles the calmness of UI Goku, while the transformation from mystic form to Beast in a rage like ssj2 and Aura of Ego Vegeta.
2. Gohan being linked to the kai's, his outer aura has a resembles to his ultimate/mystic form or this could be his true mystic form just like UI and MUI.
Real Gohan fan know this form as El Blanco
Its kind of like super saiyan 2 but with mystic as a base. Maybe since he had unlocked his full potential his limit breaker super saiyan form became amplified to its max potential.
It’s a mix of ss2,ultimate and finally befriending Kurama
Could the white hair be because of the Kai’s/angels and the purple energy/aura because of the gods of destruction ?
Possibly, but Gohan doesn't really have any connection to god ki. It's possible that the energy comes from the life link shared between the Kaioshins and the Gods of Destruction, but who knows
Gohan just makin his own forms dudes crazy
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For Gohan saying he wanted to become stronger using his human form, Gohan sure borrowed Super Saiyan 3 for Gohan beast form. It seems no matter what Gohan does, his Saiyan side will always be present in Gohan's transformations. So I really can't say it's a unique form.
Beast Form has absolutely nothing to do with Super Saiyan 3.
@@littlemoth4956 it may not, but it looks like super saiyan 2.5, basically Super Saiyan 3 hair.
@@domomitsune5920 no it looks like his ssj2 hair but better
He's still got his eyebrows. Defs not SSJ 3 lol
It is about time Gohan got some love. His potential as one of the most powerful was something that was sorely needed.
Agreed!
Allow me to summarize:
We needed Gohan to be relevant again so we used his “latent potential” as an excuse and made him saiyan rage into a power up (without training) with a severely rushed plot and nobody important actually died.
Let’s be honest, not even Goku or vegeta would’ve fallin for that whole “oh no pan is in danger” bs
I think it actually would've been better if Gohan Beast was activated out of Gohan thinking Pan died during that purple blast sequence. It would've been nice if we didn't know she survived, then Gohan transformed, and then when the fight is over we see Pan flying successfully.
@@InnovativeJdawg Exactly! Anything but what they gave us. Especially because the movies was already leaked. At least give us some scare or shock value
The color and shape of how long is to resemble the kais