Interesting video and doubly interesting how subjective these preferences are. I would have sent the Moment one back assuming it was broken it's performance was so poor. Only the Sirui would be anywhere near my shopping list.
i just bought the Sirui. Thank you for making this video. I love Anamorphic and picked a old black magic ursa 4k ef. Getting an adapter to make this work.
Hey Mathieu, another great video, thanks for taking the time, I had been wondering about anamorphic adaptors (since I cannot afford any cinelenses at the moment). The mask was REALLY cool btw, a little video on it would be cool. Also my friend, I took the plunge and am now supporting you on Patreon because to me you have the absolutely best channel on RUclips, every video is a production, good job.
I know many want this anamorphic look but every time I see those lines or bloom or so, I think that the person forgot to clean the lense. Tbf bloom around candles looks quite nice but if it has these lense flares it just feels like as if someone smudget with fingers on the glass element. Even in cinemas, when the intentionally add flare in post, I think "CAN'T YOU CLEAN YOUR GEAR!?!".
I agree. Flares are polarizing with audiences, and the amount is up to the taste of the cinematographer. I prefer minimal flaring with a neutral color profile.
I love lens flares , but the "mist" filters are bizarre to me. If you wanted your image to look blurry, why did you use an expensive lens - just use a shit or dirty lens if you want a shit image!
@@feederbrian9457 I think flare is good to comunicate overexposed settings or some stressed feelings. When stuff happens too fast and the visual look wants to "tell" the audience that the protagonist can't keep up with this information overload and so on. But that's the only scenarios I can think of where they might fit everything above that is an imperfection or flaw in the design of that lens. And these cine-lenses are notorious for this specific flaw. It's simply just a side effect of trying to squeeze a wider image onto a regular sensor format.
@@C.I... Mist filters do not blur the image. It just makes them softer. Yes, it's a bit like having particles on your lense, because that's basically what a mist filter is and if you are not picky you could call this some sort of bluriness, but a cheap lense has other problems. And while a mist filter (tbf, depending on its intensity) just makes the skin look a bit softer in the details or makes lights actually glow and not appear as just a white spot, is a notoriously soft lens not capable of even sharply focusing on contrasty details in the first place. Aka there is a difference of being soft and not being sharp.
Every video of yours about old and weird lenses is absolutely amazing to me. You inspire me and I discovered a whole new world. And taking pictures and filming with these pieces is a step back in time for me. Thank you very much. PS: Did you make that helmet yourself?
Great comparison. I liked the 1.5x best to my eyes and what I'd like to see in the edit. The Moment's streaking was too strong. Is there a way to adjust any of the streaking effect (type, level of impact, etc) in the adapters?
Thank you for this comparison, Mathieu! Since the Blazar is your favourite, would love to see you shoot shots with it outdoors during the day like you did with the weird lens series. Thanks again.
Really nice and interesting video! I agree with both of you, the Moment is the "professional" one, with very nice and "well-behaving" flares and effects, but super sharp, while the Blazar is the more "fun" and "creative" one, giving much more character to the image, with stronger and different flares, while being less sharp, which also gives it a bit o character of its own... I only wish I had the money to buy both 😂
My experience is with the aivascope 1.5x, 1.75x… flairs change character depending on whether they are in focus or out; they change with the types of taking lenses and diffusion/ Polaroid/ nd /ir-cut filters.
Caveat. These characteristics will look completely different on a different lens/focal length and/or sensor size. I can confirm on Moment on with sigma art 35mm 1.4 and suiri on full frame S5 looks really different than the 90mm summicron. Moment Looks way more organic and layered on the 35mm with a super 35mm bmpcc 6K than this stronger sci fi triple streak looking flare here. Suiri hardly flares here on the Komodo super 35 sensor even at 90 mm while it gives a much more noticeable and defined yet still subtle flare on a full frame S5 at 40-60mm kind of like how the great joy looks in this video.
That is correct, a good adapter will give the lens the same look as a equivalent native anamorphic lens, and thats the interesting part because there are a lot of expensive anamorphic lenses that can't open more that F2
What is the difference between using an anamorphic adapter and cropping the image? I mean all the adapter is doing is squeezing the image and creating different bokeh balls
Anamorphic distortion and bokeh mean a lot for visual storytelling. Squeezing the image is non-linear and makes the foreground objects pop, while painterly bokeh, focus fall-off and optical vignette also enhance foreground/background separation, helping to focus the viewer's attention on the actor/main object in the scene.
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I personally really like the sirui with more subtle flares, the blazae is also really nice
Interesting video and doubly interesting how subjective these preferences are. I would have sent the Moment one back assuming it was broken it's performance was so poor. Only the Sirui would be anywhere near my shopping list.
Could you add a streak filter in part 2? I would be interesting to see how close you can fake the effect!
i just bought the Sirui. Thank you for making this video. I love Anamorphic and picked a old black magic ursa 4k ef. Getting an adapter to make this work.
Not a video guy but I have to say that I loved how you managed to subtly mix in the Vader breathing and Imperial March into the BGM at ~ 0:30 - 0:45 😁
That we have access to so many options nowadays is awesome!
We are completely spoiled as content creators!!!
Hey Mathieu, another great video, thanks for taking the time, I had been wondering about anamorphic adaptors (since I cannot afford any cinelenses at the moment). The mask was REALLY cool btw, a little video on it would be cool. Also my friend, I took the plunge and am now supporting you on Patreon because to me you have the absolutely best channel on RUclips, every video is a production, good job.
thank you so much Sean ! this means a lot to me!
I will maybe make a short about the mask,
@@MathieuStern That mask is great, go for it!
I know many want this anamorphic look but every time I see those lines or bloom or so, I think that the person forgot to clean the lense. Tbf bloom around candles looks quite nice but if it has these lense flares it just feels like as if someone smudget with fingers on the glass element. Even in cinemas, when the intentionally add flare in post, I think "CAN'T YOU CLEAN YOUR GEAR!?!".
I agree. Flares are polarizing with audiences, and the amount is up to the taste of the cinematographer. I prefer minimal flaring with a neutral color profile.
I love lens flares , but the "mist" filters are bizarre to me. If you wanted your image to look blurry, why did you use an expensive lens - just use a shit or dirty lens if you want a shit image!
@@feederbrian9457 I think flare is good to comunicate overexposed settings or some stressed feelings. When stuff happens too fast and the visual look wants to "tell" the audience that the protagonist can't keep up with this information overload and so on.
But that's the only scenarios I can think of where they might fit everything above that is an imperfection or flaw in the design of that lens. And these cine-lenses are notorious for this specific flaw. It's simply just a side effect of trying to squeeze a wider image onto a regular sensor format.
@@C.I... Mist filters do not blur the image. It just makes them softer. Yes, it's a bit like having particles on your lense, because that's basically what a mist filter is and if you are not picky you could call this some sort of bluriness, but a cheap lense has other problems.
And while a mist filter (tbf, depending on its intensity) just makes the skin look a bit softer in the details or makes lights actually glow and not appear as just a white spot, is a notoriously soft lens not capable of even sharply focusing on contrasty details in the first place.
Aka there is a difference of being soft and not being sharp.
😂
Thank you for the cool test! I like the Moment adapter the best, a nice combination of sharpness and character.
Glad you liked it!
Every video of yours about old and weird lenses is absolutely amazing to me. You inspire me and I discovered a whole new world. And taking pictures and filming with these pieces is a step back in time for me. Thank you very much. PS: Did you make that helmet yourself?
Glad you like them!
I customised it myself yes !
Great comparison. I liked the 1.5x best to my eyes and what I'd like to see in the edit. The Moment's streaking was too strong. Is there a way to adjust any of the streaking effect (type, level of impact, etc) in the adapters?
Thank you for this comparison, Mathieu! Since the Blazar is your favourite, would love to see you shoot shots with it outdoors during the day like you did with the weird lens series. Thanks again.
Also, looking forward to part 2. Looking to see how the Laowa 1.33x and the GJ 1.35x compare.
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Really nice and interesting video! I agree with both of you, the Moment is the "professional" one, with very nice and "well-behaving" flares and effects, but super sharp, while the Blazar is the more "fun" and "creative" one, giving much more character to the image, with stronger and different flares, while being less sharp, which also gives it a bit o character of its own... I only wish I had the money to buy both 😂
Really wanted to see the new Laowa but i know that one just became available. Would love to see you test it if you get the chance!
Will do!
Did you find the other 2 adapters to test?
Looks like media division is getting some competition on you tube ;) Great Video as always.
I wish!
Thanks for this efforts ... I was deciding on Sirui then hold it for now
Glad I could help
Blazar definitely has the most retro 80s/90s look to it I think.
My experience is with the aivascope 1.5x, 1.75x… flairs change character depending on whether they are in focus or out; they change with the types of taking lenses and diffusion/ Polaroid/ nd /ir-cut filters.
Caveat. These characteristics will look completely different on a different lens/focal length and/or sensor size. I can confirm on
Moment on with sigma art 35mm 1.4 and suiri on full frame S5 looks really different than the 90mm summicron.
Moment Looks way more organic and layered on the 35mm with a super 35mm bmpcc 6K than this stronger sci fi triple streak looking flare here.
Suiri hardly flares here on the Komodo super 35 sensor even at 90 mm while it gives a much more noticeable and defined yet still subtle flare on a full frame S5 at 40-60mm kind of like how the great joy looks in this video.
Salut Mathieu. Je voudrais faire ça avec un RZ67 (diamètre de filtre 77mm), tu penses que ça peut se faire et si oui comment?
Moment technically, objectively the best performing. However I like the aesthetic of the Great Joy.
Thanks for the video. Just to be sure: anamorphic adapters turn regular lenses into true anamorphic lenses?
That is correct, a good adapter will give the lens the same look as a equivalent native anamorphic lens, and thats the interesting part because there are a lot of expensive anamorphic lenses that can't open more that F2
@@MathieuStern very interesting, thank you
Great video, thanks! How did you mount the adapters on the rails? wondering what that part was.
its a lens holder from Nitze , they have a new one that i just received its pretty cool ties called the lWS lens support
@@MathieuStern thank you! Ordering one now!
I really liked the look of the Moment, but would probably go with the Blazar just for weight reasons.
Same, it's not fun to be stressed all the time because of the weight
Beautiful - Just subscribed
Great thanks you! Please describe the focus!
So is the Sirui 1.25X anamorphic the sharpest? WIll you test it vs the Laowa 1.33X front adapter?
cant make a part 2 because other brands do not want to participate, ... make your own conclusions I guess
oh cool budget anamorphic looks! I've been wanting this forever *checks prices* ...oh :(
yea, just buy one :)
au moins le sirui est relativement abordable! @@MathieuStern
To me IQ is everything! If it ain't sharp... it's shit. Those flares everyone raves about ... are hideous.
So to me the clear winner is the Sirui.
Blazar is the best adapter , if you is in your budget
From what I've seen the Aivascope would win over all of these, but it's more expensive
almost impossible to find, expensive ... we gave up and did this video first
So many attachments!
Do you want to be in the next video ?
Where i can buy thé BLAZAR for France please? Not available for France on Amazon 🥲
You went with the unsharpest anamorph!?😂
Didn't you know that an X-ray can only be seen through backlight?
Love the short film
What is the difference between using an anamorphic adapter and cropping the image? I mean all the adapter is doing is squeezing the image and creating different bokeh balls
Anamorphic distortion and bokeh mean a lot for visual storytelling. Squeezing the image is non-linear and makes the foreground objects pop, while painterly bokeh, focus fall-off and optical vignette also enhance foreground/background separation, helping to focus the viewer's attention on the actor/main object in the scene.
I know someone at laowa who sends out demo gear if you are looking for someone...
Sure !!!
Love the Moment
I've always hated the look of these flares. They always remind me of low budget films for a reason
Sirui is the worst.
I can't choose one adapter 😢 i want one for my contax zeiss set lenses for my zcam f6 & fuji h2s