Sometimes 30 FPS Is Best...

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  • Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024

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  • @izzieb
    @izzieb 3 года назад +2634

    All you had to do was cap the damn frame rate CJ!

    • @prestonak
      @prestonak 3 года назад +37

      I'm getting PTSD from that mission now

    • @conyo985
      @conyo985 3 года назад +8

      Even with the capped frame rate I still find that mission hard. I had to do the trick of overtaking the train and going up a certain building to come up to the roof of the train.

    • @Legendary_Banana
      @Legendary_Banana 3 года назад +3

      Laughs in RTX 3090

    • @ninderninder2689
      @ninderninder2689 3 года назад

      Nailed it

    • @TheCommanderNZ
      @TheCommanderNZ 3 года назад +2

      A large number 120 fps.

  • @Gabriel-cl7xo
    @Gabriel-cl7xo 3 года назад +3528

    There is a mod called "Framerate Vigilante". It fixes all those bugs and lets you play smoothly at 60. It is one of my "must have" mods when I replay the game.

    • @MrDeltoric
      @MrDeltoric 3 года назад +51

      thanks for this

    • @gymonx11
      @gymonx11 3 года назад +39

      I just use frame limit adjuster

    • @MuhammadSalman7236
      @MuhammadSalman7236 3 года назад +316

      Install GTA SA "Definitive Edition". It includes all famous fixes like silent patch, framerate vigilante etc and all the missing graphical effects from the console versions.

    • @kelownatechkid
      @kelownatechkid 3 года назад +26

      IIRC it doesn't fix everything...

    • @helenHTID
      @helenHTID 3 года назад +88

      Framerate Vigilante doesn't fix everything, Especially the heavy vehicles. The best way to play this is at 30FPS.

  • @Pennycilin3
    @Pennycilin3 3 года назад +711

    I remember Racedriver: GRID is also designed to be played with 30 fps. Its flashback feature is tied to framerate so if you play it on lower framerates the amount of time you can go back is longer.

    • @ZX3000GT1
      @ZX3000GT1 3 года назад +12

      At least that's not too bad since the gameplay itself is unaffected.

    • @michaelmonstar4276
      @michaelmonstar4276 3 года назад +28

      I've heard of that or probably noticed it in-game, but whether or not that's detrimental just depends on how much you want to CHEAT!
      To make the game challenging, you need to play it at higher difficulty-settings anyway, which reduces the amount of times you can "Flashback" the more you increase difficulty, all the way to none. - And I'd rather have thát than playing a RACING-game at 30fps, which should definitely be at least 60 or even higher to get any sense of speed.
      Good game though... Wish some of its textures and such were better on PC, even for the time, but anyway... RIP Codemasters

    • @septanos
      @septanos 3 года назад +6

      it happens even nowadays
      higher FPS in GTA V gives you a higher top speed with some cars.

    • @roflBeck
      @roflBeck 3 года назад +2

      Really? I played that start to finish without an FPS cap and didn't know that lol.

    • @rogehmarbi
      @rogehmarbi 3 года назад +16

      I used to play GRID at 15-20 FPS on a single core machine and my friends questioned my ability to rewind so much longer, sometimes all the way back to the start of the race.
      Now I know why

  • @1050franco
    @1050franco 3 года назад +120

    San Andreas with uncapped framerate it's not that bad if your compare it with GTA 3 or Vice City , it literally breaks the game.

    • @MLWJ1993
      @MLWJ1993 3 года назад +14

      Except it's still bad, missions where swimming is required are impossible in San Andreas if I leave it uncapped (which is 1000 fps on my end).

    • @1050franco
      @1050franco 3 года назад +1

      @@MLWJ1993 It depends on the system , that's why i said "compared to GTA 3 and VC".

    • @wuzzierash578
      @wuzzierash578 3 года назад +5

      @@MLWJ1993 atleast normal gameplay is relatively decent, try going down a slope in 3 and VC you get shunted into space

  • @KingTurkeySub
    @KingTurkeySub 3 года назад +269

    GTA 4 actually had a similar problem with high framerates in one of the two final missions where you have to spam the space bar to pull yourself on to a helicopter. If the framerate is too high, the button presses won't register and you'll fall off the helicopter and fail the mission. You can solve it the same way, by capping it to 30FPS with rivatuner, but I've actually heard reports of the glitch happening on the Xbox Series S/X versions of the game as well, which is pretty interesting, hopefully it gets fixed though.

    • @LosSerpent
      @LosSerpent 3 года назад +14

      Same with a mission where you cant get out of garage unless you cap the fps

    • @farhanmahalludin
      @farhanmahalludin 3 года назад +15

      I remember getting the bug and spent few hours thinking it was my keyboard and controller that was problematic lol. I didn't use the frame cap method, instead I disabled CPU affinity for the game in Task Manager.

    • @raniedelfajardo742
      @raniedelfajardo742 3 года назад +7

      I've spend a whole day trying to beat the game with that just one final mission. I keep on failing. At first I thought I'm just bad or my keyboard is broken.

    • @SeifAsfour
      @SeifAsfour 3 года назад +4

      Yes. I can confirm the issue on Series S. I can't get past the QTE event. I lost all hope and deleted the game. However, on the positive side, I can experience the game with locked 60 fps, which was the first time since I had/still have my crappy PC.

    • @FAKEAXIS
      @FAKEAXIS 3 года назад +1

      @@raniedelfajardo742 the plane wouldn’t spawn or it would crash when I was replaying it on a Ryzen 5600 system with the Vulcan wrapper (game is very reliant on single core performance) Was getting insane frame rates. but I didn’t realize it was the reason I couldn’t finish it

  • @iamatlantis1
    @iamatlantis1 3 года назад +236

    I had flashbacks to Driver: You are the wheel man. Great game.

    • @RandomGaminginHD
      @RandomGaminginHD  3 года назад +34

      A classic!

    • @cookiesupervisor2211
      @cookiesupervisor2211 3 года назад +8

      I loved that game , even I sucked at it and never complete any missions , I just drive around San Francisco and run from cops :)

    • @V1VISECT6
      @V1VISECT6 3 года назад +1

      Started playing that again on ePSXe cause i can't get the old 98/Win2K version running on Windows 10.

    • @iamatlantis1
      @iamatlantis1 3 года назад

      Heck yeah you could spend hours just running around like you said enjoying the physics. Pretty sure randomgaminginhd has done a video or two on it!

    • @iamatlantis1
      @iamatlantis1 3 года назад +2

      @@V1VISECT6 Try Driver 2 maybe? From what I remember it was everything Driver 1 had but more.

  • @guiltfiend
    @guiltfiend 3 года назад +575

    There's a mod that makes San Andreas capped at 60 fps and fixes all the bugs with driving and swimming. Real Kev3n has a good vid about it and other great mods.

    • @kunalgupta432
      @kunalgupta432 3 года назад +1

      Thanks. I've been looking for decent guide for it. When it comes to modding I'm a newbie

    • @icantreadyourmind1395
      @icantreadyourmind1395 3 года назад +25

      not all the bugs

    • @MsMRkv
      @MsMRkv 3 года назад

      Silent patch

    • @joe_3105
      @joe_3105 3 года назад

      Yeah, I also used his guide and now I can replay San Andreas and cherish the old memories

    • @benzicol
      @benzicol 3 года назад +2

      @@MsMRkv No it isnt that, Its FramerateVigilante, and Real kev3n didn't show it in his video

  • @GoldenJokered
    @GoldenJokered 3 года назад +324

    There are other games of the same era that have similar problems, some of the command and conquer titles have their game speed dependant on the fps. If you have 120 fps for example, the game runs 4 times faster than normal.

    • @zaidlacksalastname4905
      @zaidlacksalastname4905 3 года назад +20

      Mario 64 at 120fps is just Mario 64 but at twice the speed

    • @easthorizonfilms
      @easthorizonfilms 3 года назад +36

      Most Bethesda games have this issue, people who played fallout 76 after tweaking the FPS cap in the files found that they could run twice as fast without any cheats installed... which was pretty embarrassing for an online game. I think its been patched now but it was still bad.

    • @OutlawedPoet
      @OutlawedPoet 3 года назад +14

      GTA 5 even had some physics problems past 90 or so FPS. the best examples I can think of is that your dart aim in darts becomes way faster depending on your FPS and the repossession mission for simeon will be impossible to complete past 90 or so FPS because the guy he's talking to outside of the shop will start driving automatically, thus failing the mission, with the only way to complete it is to cap to 60 or lower. RDR2 even had issues as well. I think they've fixed this by now but there was a bug where your hunger meter was tied to FPS, and I believe there's still a bug where the days pass way faster depending on your FPS

    • @rogoznicafc9672
      @rogoznicafc9672 3 года назад +14

      @@easthorizonfilms that whole game was an embarrassment

    • @alksonalex186
      @alksonalex186 3 года назад +4

      Deus ex 2000 speeds up if you increase fps cap higher than your display hz setting

  • @Hackerisitic
    @Hackerisitic 3 года назад +125

    Me who still plays GTA SA : 404 nostalgia not found.

    • @cookiesupervisor2211
      @cookiesupervisor2211 3 года назад +1

      I have played last time like 2010 on pc , and after playing GTA V , I cant return to it .

    • @Hackerisitic
      @Hackerisitic 3 года назад +16

      @@cookiesupervisor2211 oh! you like loading screen simulator?

    • @prestonak
      @prestonak 3 года назад +3

      @@Hackerisitic all of the original loading screen simulators don't work on SSDs 😭

    • @cookiesupervisor2211
      @cookiesupervisor2211 3 года назад +1

      @@Hackerisitic You are exited when you see me ?

    • @Hackerisitic
      @Hackerisitic 3 года назад +2

      @@cookiesupervisor2211 I am bad at english or you had a stroke?

  • @HappyBeezerStudios
    @HappyBeezerStudios 3 года назад +73

    When games have locked the physics to the framerate. Skyrim comes to mind, which starts spazzing out above 60. Or that one EA Need For Speed that ran at double speed on 60 fps.
    And devs noticed the issue 30 years ago when computers had a turbo button and started having the timings and physics not dependent on framerate.

    • @missingno2401
      @missingno2401 3 года назад +6

      fallout 4 would refuse to create new saves and would crash to desktop really often unless the fps is capped at 60

    • @nikilaw2619
      @nikilaw2619 2 года назад +2

      think the nfs game you're talking about is rivals, but thankfully there's a fix for the game that makes 60fps a somewhat viable experience. there's still lag spikes that make the game run at half its intended speed, so i usually stick to the 30fps bc its a smoother experience overall

    • @ArtisChronicles
      @ArtisChronicles 2 года назад

      @@missingno2401 for me menus are nearly unusable in fallout 4 if I manage much higher than 60 fps. The game goes totally batshit.

    • @missingno2401
      @missingno2401 2 года назад

      @@ArtisChronicles yep

  • @TechOrigami
    @TechOrigami 3 года назад +166

    The perks of PC gaming. Third party patches. Silent patch is awesome! I still play the GTA III, Vice City and San Andreas till date.
    I just drive around in San Andreas, with my fav music on User Tracks Player radio channel :D
    Now that's perfection!

    • @TechOrigami
      @TechOrigami 3 года назад +3

      And there is a fps limiter tool. You can cap fps at even 100fps. And there would be no issues with the game physics!

    • @RandoBurner
      @RandoBurner 3 года назад +3

      Where do you get these patches?

    • @SONGOKU02
      @SONGOKU02 3 года назад +6

      Hmm. I still prefer the ps2 Versions. Because some stuff. Pc version i played alot, but they are fucked. Silentpatch is needed. And the xbox Versions has better grafics (gta 3 and vc) and gta sa looks like the pc version. (i don't mean the settings in general. When you play on ps2, the grafics looks different)... Oh well. And the xbox Versions has the own radio stuff too..... I own those games to often. Like every gta. XD

    • @TechOrigami
      @TechOrigami 3 года назад +7

      @@SONGOKU02 i always played the pc version, only played the ps2 versions for a bit, before the ps2 fried. The best thing about pc version was the trainer!

    • @SONGOKU02
      @SONGOKU02 3 года назад +5

      @@TechOrigami Oh trainer. A relict of old times. Miss this alot. XD

  • @R3AL-AIM
    @R3AL-AIM 3 года назад +68

    VERY GOOD VIDEO! More people must watch this after the recent announcements and understand why a real remaster in another engine is actually a big deal even if that game doesn't change that much aside from visuals and maybe a few add-ins if they choose. It's quality of life improvements!

  • @Spoggi99YT
    @Spoggi99YT 3 года назад +79

    Saints Row 2 is probably one of the best examples of this since frame rates directly affects game speed in this nightmare of a PC port

    • @rayyanberg8974
      @rayyanberg8974 3 года назад +5

      so does resident evil 4 as well

    • @deepflare1279
      @deepflare1279 3 года назад +7

      @@rayyanberg8974 no wonder it was so laggy on my old lap, while RE 5,6 ran better.

    • @SharpForceTrauma
      @SharpForceTrauma 3 года назад

      yeah, i hope they get a move on rereleasing that.

  • @tazz7390
    @tazz7390 3 года назад +8

    In game development, this is a well-known thing. You can solve this in your own games easily by multiplying your in-game forces and other framerate dependant actions by something called delta time, which is a small number that represents the time berween the previous frame and the current frame.

  • @chintandesai8320
    @chintandesai8320 3 года назад +14

    Yes, I also found every dancing/lowriding missions much difficult to finish due to higher frame rate. Didn't know that untill now. Thanks.

  • @Gabriel-cl7xo
    @Gabriel-cl7xo 3 года назад +14

    For those who want to replay this masterpiece, I highly suggest downgrading the game to the US 1.0 version and then installing the "Essentials Pack". That way you'll have the game without bugs and with support for mods.

    • @AchiragChiragg
      @AchiragChiragg 3 года назад +2

      I believe even with the essential pack the alley oop driving school mission is still glitched.

    • @auzyx6138
      @auzyx6138 Год назад

      @@AchiragChiragg yeah it still is

  • @jacobimming5082
    @jacobimming5082 3 года назад +29

    I was replaying banjo-tooie on my N64 and holy shit did I gain a newfound appreciation for 30fps

    • @charizardoreo
      @charizardoreo 3 года назад +6

      It's at least available with a stable 30fps on Xbox 360

  • @MrDSkinny
    @MrDSkinny 3 года назад +21

    I remember when I first played this on my PC I hopped the wall behind CJ's house to grab the uzi and immediately died from 3 ft of fall damage. Then when it came to the swimming I was swimming one mile per hour and finally looked it up and turns out it was the frame rate lmao

  • @GAMIR_SFM
    @GAMIR_SFM 3 года назад +31

    Need for Speed Rivals suffers a similar issue, though there's 2 commands you need for the game to match the extra frames with the speed of the game.

    • @mvyhem
      @mvyhem 3 года назад +6

      Doing that still breaks a couple of events and decreases the top speed and acceleration of your car. I honestly wish the PC port actually supported 60fps without issue

    • @TheBoostedDoge
      @TheBoostedDoge 3 года назад +5

      So does The Run. In the snow parts its almost unplayable if you don't cap the frame rate

    • @yungshull
      @yungshull 3 года назад

      @@TheBoostedDoge oh damn yeah but i can play in the snow just fine, i just use the mini map and look for taillights through the snow flying into my face constantly

    • @WH250398
      @WH250398 3 года назад +2

      Oof. Rivals. That game was immensly frustrating. Overpowered police AI, the healthbar, and the fact you lost all of your money when you crashed made it seriously unfun at times.

    • @TheBoostedDoge
      @TheBoostedDoge 3 года назад +1

      @@yungshull it's a real shame that game still looks for damn good especially in the snow

  • @uglybob7505
    @uglybob7505 3 года назад +4

    Used to love flying around San Andreas in the Dodo without a care in the world

    • @cookiesupervisor2211
      @cookiesupervisor2211 3 года назад +1

      Yes flying was great , but ps2 could not handle that , on PC game worked bit better , but still in compare to GTAV... I wish rockstar will make remaster on GTAV engine.

  • @mwhunter2346
    @mwhunter2346 3 года назад +10

    i remember doing the "Da Nang Thang" mission and dies so many times because of the 30

  • @MrWoezoe
    @MrWoezoe 3 года назад +15

    I remember struggling with that silly alley oop a couple of years back. If only I'd have known this back then 😂

    • @AchiragChiragg
      @AchiragChiragg 3 года назад

      I literally tried to do it for an entire week before I found the problem was the FPS and had to lower the FPS to complete it

  • @BenState
    @BenState 3 года назад +1

    i love your personal anecdotes ... so relatable. You seem like a lovely bloke.

  • @DimsWorld43
    @DimsWorld43 3 года назад +15

    Totally true, some games work well with fps unlock mods but some just don't.
    The best uncapped fps glitch would probably be GTA 3, shooting the machine gun's full clip in something like 0.2 seconds is amazing lmao

  • @prcvl
    @prcvl 3 года назад +12

    i remember starting skyrim without the 120 fps fix and not capping it to 60 fps

    • @ivailok3376
      @ivailok3376 3 года назад +3

      Rolling down the hill we go. Literally rolling down the hill...

    • @monkeyman767
      @monkeyman767 3 года назад

      Holy God does the physics freak out at high fps, less so in the new Special Edition but still a little sometimes

  • @hussein.k3508
    @hussein.k3508 3 года назад +3

    I agree with you, even I'm having fun with playing at 15 FPS 💙

  • @efftee
    @efftee 3 года назад +40

    In GTA 5 the higher your frame rate, the lower the capacity of petrol cans which makes some missions impossible. High frame rates also speeds up cloth physics, seen on the tarps on the military trucks. Also cars are quicker at higher frame rates

    • @bearpuns5910
      @bearpuns5910 3 года назад +7

      That might explain why cloth physics run at half rate in Red Dead 2. It’s a long shot, I know

    • @farhanmahalludin
      @farhanmahalludin 3 года назад +7

      There is a bug in the beginning of the mission Complications. You will instantly fail the mission after the cutscene if you run the game at higher than 60 fps.

    • @UshaSingh-bw4rq
      @UshaSingh-bw4rq 3 года назад +1

      @@farhanmahalludin I play it uncapped on my 3080 with over 144 frames on 1440p max settings, but I didn't face any problem of any sort.

    • @doron8536
      @doron8536 3 года назад +3

      @@bearpuns5910 I remember there was even a bug that drained the player's cores really fast, until someone on reddit tested it and found that it is tied to higher frame rates. Good thing Rockstar fixed it.

    • @mofkergt
      @mofkergt 3 года назад

      Cars being quicker on higher framerates applies to every game that has cars
      I have tested this with a friend and he accelerated faster than me at 120fps and i was at 25fps
      Edit we used the same car without upgrades

  • @jeremygarrido8571
    @jeremygarrido8571 3 года назад +12

    30 fps in old games is the best experience (many bad ports in early pc gaming)

    • @dmer-zy3rb
      @dmer-zy3rb 3 года назад +4

      You cant generalize it. Many old games can be run at high fps perfectly fine. Check the pcgamingwiki before playing thats the best one can do.

    • @joaquingonzalez834
      @joaquingonzalez834 3 года назад

      sometimes i prefer playing the console versions of games, which is mostly how i play them and how they were intended for the most part, thats why i am glad emulators exist

    • @fitmotheyap
      @fitmotheyap 3 года назад

      @@joaquingonzalez834 emulators are godly and save time and money,old consoles are harder to find especially

    • @frozenturbo8623
      @frozenturbo8623 2 года назад

      The only games that didn't have a problem with something higher than 120 FPS was basically Valve games like CS and HL2.

  • @Eric4Lego
    @Eric4Lego 3 года назад +6

    This was a really cool video, and I'd enjoy seeing more of these about old titles!

  • @jonassilvarodrigues8222
    @jonassilvarodrigues8222 3 года назад +9

    So that's why i've spent hours trying to beat the driving school challenge and that woozie mission! Can't believe i'm only learning about this now

  • @krazycharlie
    @krazycharlie 3 года назад +8

    Steve: "My body says I can swim while my brain says no you can't".
    Bro! It's the story of my life! 😁😁😁

  • @deleteduser7615
    @deleteduser7615 3 года назад +8

    3:18 Just use NVIDIA Control Panel to cap it to 50/60 (some bugs did still occur for me at 60 fps)

    • @Golygt42
      @Golygt42 3 года назад +1

      That’s what I did. Also there’s a certain compatibility mode that helps with those bugs, I think it’s windows 95 /windows ME compatibility mode

    • @deleteduser7615
      @deleteduser7615 3 года назад +1

      @@Golygt42 i’ll be sure to check that out when i get a chance

  • @trooperx36
    @trooperx36 3 года назад +4

    Love these types of videos. Would love to see more!

  • @issackliener3065
    @issackliener3065 3 года назад +6

    The original Skyrim also has framerate game engine weirdness. Going higher than 60 fps will cause some graphics bug most frequently water physics

    • @Thomas_Bergel
      @Thomas_Bergel 3 года назад +1

      Not just skyrim... EVERY game running on that engine

  • @jetjitten6632
    @jetjitten6632 3 года назад +1

    This explains why I felt amphibious assault mission felt so hard when I played it recently a few months before.

  • @Acksiel
    @Acksiel 3 года назад +2

    Really interesting would love to see more quirks of framrates like this.

  • @maticretar684
    @maticretar684 3 года назад +3

    Resident Evil 2 remake also had mechanics tied to fps, for example the knife damage is higher the more fps you play at

    • @rusdyalif9087
      @rusdyalif9087 3 года назад

      So it's a pay to win game LOL

    • @maticretar684
      @maticretar684 3 года назад

      @@rusdyalif9087 basically lol or you play at custom resolution of 240x160 and you should be fine

  • @itspaci
    @itspaci 3 года назад +3

    Playing RE4 on pc with capped 60 makes the whole game play in slow motion, so I guess that's another time when 30 FPS is better

  • @bry159
    @bry159 3 года назад +1

    🤣 "Why have you hired me Wu? I can't swim!" Creasing up.

  • @Manic_Panic
    @Manic_Panic 3 года назад +1

    Here's how I got the trilogy working properly:
    - Own the Steam versions.
    - Downgrade SA using the various downgraders mod (VC and 3 don't need this step).
    - Get the NoDVD 1.0 executables for them (to make them mod friendly and less prone to crashes).
    - Install WidescreenFix + Silentpatch on all 3 of them.
    - Install LimitAdjuster for SA or the ground can flicker sometimes when you're flying.
    - Enable the framelimiter on all of them to avoid nasty bugs (thanks to Silentpatch, it will be 30 instead of 25).
    And that's it.
    Optional: Install the EAX mod for VC and 3, for 3D Audio instead of using the Miles Sound System. This will make it toggable on the audio hardware options ingame.

  • @IcyB-xg6xs
    @IcyB-xg6xs 3 года назад +6

    San Andreas may have the physics tied to the frame rate, but GTA4 is a whole interesting story.
    Try running GTA 4 with just 1 thread enabled. The driving will feel noticeably better.

    • @Pamani_
      @Pamani_ 3 года назад

      Jumping on the helicopter in one of the last missions was downright impossible on 6c/12t. I had to reduce it to 2c/4t and mash the key

  • @white_mask13
    @white_mask13 3 года назад +7

    Another great example is GTA IV on PC, in the last mission you need to get up to the helicopter by spamming space, if you don't cap the fps to 30 its impossible.

    • @Sebastian-yl7nq
      @Sebastian-yl7nq 3 года назад +3

      GTA IV is overall a software mystery and it still runs like shit on literally anything (Without mods)

    • @white_mask13
      @white_mask13 3 года назад +2

      @@Sebastian-yl7nq I had played it on windows 7 without any mods max settings on my i5 6th gen and 980 and it ran 60 fps from what I could see. Haven't played it since tho.(it was also in the days that win10 had came out and they were buggy so I was running 7)

    • @white_mask13
      @white_mask13 3 года назад

      @Gomam0n did you run it in anything other than windows 7? Also check the drive you are loading the game from.

    • @white_mask13
      @white_mask13 3 года назад

      @Gomam0n idk man i can try it again on windows 10 and i bet it would be the same and make a video as well. maybe now that i think about it could it be the copy? i got it pirated so idk

    • @white_mask13
      @white_mask13 3 года назад

      @Gomam0n I used a Russian pack of isos 😂

  • @beamlakaschalew5786
    @beamlakaschalew5786 3 года назад +1

    I'm so glad that I finished GTA San Andreas without bothering about FPS and Graphics Cards, good old times.

  • @earthisadonut7213
    @earthisadonut7213 3 года назад +1

    Ah yes a certain RUclipsr's arch nemesis; The Frame Limiter

  • @aidegenerate
    @aidegenerate 3 года назад +3

    Can't believe I've finished this game so many times playing like that 🤣🤣 I always felt stupid on those driving missions

  • @JamesSmith-sw3nk
    @JamesSmith-sw3nk 3 года назад +3

    Good video. I learned something new. I wish they'd release a San Andreas remake with modern graphics.

    • @efftee
      @efftee 3 года назад +2

      A GTA remastered trilogy is in the works which includes 3, VC and SA

    • @MuchWhittering
      @MuchWhittering 3 года назад +1

      @@efftee Source: Trust me bro.

    • @Mark_Lou
      @Mark_Lou 3 года назад

      @@MuchWhittering Apparently Kotaku said there's a trilogy remaster coming
      When i read the part with ''they will be made in Unreal Engine'' that's where i said ''Yeah,Smells like bullshit''.Yes,Rockstar Dundee or previously Ruffian games is familliar with Unreal Engine but come on,Rockstar has their own engine,RAGE.Why the hell would they use another engine?

    • @frozenturbo8623
      @frozenturbo8623 2 года назад

      That didn't age well.

  • @alincioaba
    @alincioaba 3 года назад

    Mate, I don't play pc games for the visuals. I play them for the thrill. Mafia, medal of honour AA, call of duty, Thief, price of Persia, age of empires, half life, quake, old NFS... You name them. They had the story or the fun of playing. I couldn't care less if it's 25 or 120 FPS. Heck, I rebuilt my old 2003 Athlon XP Barton system just to be able to experience the same things I did back then. Modern PC games lost the ability to create that for me. Great video. Great content. As always... Keep it up!

  • @shaneeslick
    @shaneeslick 3 года назад

    G'day Random,
    Awesome video proving that FUN GAMEPLAY is more important than Hundreds of FPS

  • @ShadowRush2112
    @ShadowRush2112 3 года назад +9

    Saints Row 2 in my experience is more prone to crashing at 60fps than 30. I also prefer to keep it locked at 30 because I cannot get anywhere near a consistent 60.
    Dark Souls remastered is another game where anything above 60 just causes stuff to happen. The game's speed is tied to FPS so playing at 15 would make the game 4 times as slow.
    Even GTA IV could be best played on 30.

    • @AchiragChiragg
      @AchiragChiragg 3 года назад

      Gentlemen of the Row fix is mandatory to play saints row on modern systems

    • @ShadowRush2112
      @ShadowRush2112 3 года назад +1

      @@AchiragChiragg Even that doesn't stop the countless crashes and FPS issues I have.

  • @FunkyEspelhoCat
    @FunkyEspelhoCat 3 года назад +3

    I've played enough gta-sa to know that 60fps breaks the game. I remember that dancing minigame being much harder at 60fps.

    • @iamshittingmypants150
      @iamshittingmypants150 3 года назад

      wait it does? i've played that mission like 100 times and always thought i was just horrible at it

    • @user-df3ty8ei2u
      @user-df3ty8ei2u 3 года назад +1

      @@iamshittingmypants150 username checks out

  • @GerardinhoLP
    @GerardinhoLP 3 года назад +1

    A bold statement from RGinHDguy

  • @pengwaffe
    @pengwaffe 3 года назад +2

    I've read the title, clicked on the video, and now I'm demanding that you explain yourself >:(

  • @Tina.Di.Napoli
    @Tina.Di.Napoli 3 года назад +8

    I can barely endure 30fps. Too much spoiled with high frame rates

    • @rogoznicafc9672
      @rogoznicafc9672 3 года назад +1

      just play the game normally on high FPS. I just quickly switched limiter on when i swam or when i couldnt get gold on driving school where you slide sideways on your car.

    • @OutlawedPoet
      @OutlawedPoet 3 года назад +2

      it sounds bad but 30 FPS really does not feel that bad in old games like san andreas or GTA 3. might be because there's not too much mouse movement and input delays here were very low. I have a 120hz monitor and play most of my games at 60 or 120+ FPS. meanwhile in RDR2 30 FPS I find to be unplayable unless I have a controller plugged in due to the atrocious input delay

    • @em_ar8124
      @em_ar8124 3 года назад +2

      Nah its different cause the animation is at 30fps. If the animation at 60 fps but the game played on 30fps, ouf thats gotta hurt a lot and it will become very choppy

  • @mauricioruiz112
    @mauricioruiz112 3 года назад +3

    I play RDR2 at 4k 30fps on my pc but i have everything cranked to the max tbh and thats how i wanna play it on my tv

    • @QuinCreeperKid
      @QuinCreeperKid 3 года назад +3

      🤮

    • @OutlawedPoet
      @OutlawedPoet 3 года назад

      that's how RDR2 should be played unless you have god tier hardware because of how bad rockstar fucked up their disgusting TAA. you pick either 1080p 60 FPS with disgusting horrendous visuals filled with blur, oversharpen artifacts, and ghosting, or 4k 30 FPS but with clear sharp visuals and without ghosting.

  • @tarunperera1181
    @tarunperera1181 3 года назад

    Holy shit this makes so much sense now.... playing the missions involving diving or even the driving school missions were a pain in the ass
    I had to use health cheats to get past the underwater passages in the "Amphibious assult" mission and ended up giving myself like 100,000 dollars because the cheat gave me money too
    your video was extremely helpful, thanks a lot
    I learnt something new today :)

  • @shreyameshram
    @shreyameshram 3 года назад +1

    THATS WHY I WAS NOT ABLE TO DO THAT SWIMING MISSION!!!! I was sooooo pissed back then

  • @FlameSkull95
    @FlameSkull95 3 года назад +4

    This reminds me of need for speed the run where if you uncap the framerate, the particle effects go haywire, and if you run need for speed rivals at 60+ FPS, things like the EMP will hit the target faster, compared to when you run both the game at the hard capped 30 fps.

  • @DJRuno1
    @DJRuno1 3 года назад +3

    So the game would make you swim & drive faster if you set the fps to 15?

    • @RandomGaminginHD
      @RandomGaminginHD  3 года назад +1

      Haha never thought of that

    • @xsleepy1476
      @xsleepy1476 3 года назад

      actually yes i have tested it once, at 15 fps i was faster than 30 and 60 fps players in samp swimming

    • @SONGOKU02
      @SONGOKU02 3 года назад

      It's more that the physics are broken this way. Because everything runs faster, also the physics react faster... In the beginning, the airport Lights on the Map runs wild too. But under 20 nothing will change. On SAMP you had an adventage with 20 fps. XD

    • @SONGOKU02
      @SONGOKU02 3 года назад

      @@xsleepy1476 not under 20. 20 was the lowest. :)

    • @xsleepy1476
      @xsleepy1476 3 года назад

      @@SONGOKU02 at the time i didnt know that 20 fps cap was enough thats why i capped it at 15 fps trough sampfuncs

  • @SolarNeonFlare
    @SolarNeonFlare 3 года назад +1

    one thing that i recall, i've mostly played sa-mp and mta, was that in sa-mp with 60 fps + sometimes when you'd vault over fences it'd insta whack you, almost like you'd fall from a building, except it was a fence.

    • @draingaming4518
      @draingaming4518 3 года назад

      Happens when you vault over sweet's house in 60 fps too

  • @harshvardhangodara5852
    @harshvardhangodara5852 3 года назад +1

    So guys now Speedrunners will make new records with Frame Limiter ON

  • @indenkellerag
    @indenkellerag 3 года назад +6

    Wait, you guys can reach 30fps?

  • @user-xf3fb9rw4r
    @user-xf3fb9rw4r 3 года назад +1

    I was unable to get out of the garage on the mission "Fender Ketchup", but after I capped the FPS it's not a problem anymore. Thank you for the advice.

  • @Zuernaxashyr
    @Zuernaxashyr 3 года назад +2

    Makes me glad I dont really see a difference between 30 and 60 fps.

    • @SprunkCovers
      @SprunkCovers 3 года назад

      Same here, I only care about 60fps on competitive games but not much else, on Adventure games, JRPGs and such there isn't much benefit on 60fps apart from being better on the eyes

  • @DivorcedStates
    @DivorcedStates 3 года назад +1

    I literally installed GTA:SA yesterday and was curious about the FPS limit, and now I see this video today. Good watch!

  • @cyberjoy404
    @cyberjoy404 3 года назад

    Bro that thumbnail got me geeked

  • @rockstar-5934
    @rockstar-5934 3 года назад +2

    Just want to say, those regional frame rate differences are very real and very important when it comes to speed running this games.

  • @Arismory
    @Arismory 3 года назад

    Fritangaplays, Griffen gaming, truscotishguy and JoefromSeattle:You summoned me?

  • @jferrell8546
    @jferrell8546 3 года назад +1

    This is a really cool video. Explains why I have so much difficulty playing San Andreas 😂

  • @fatslob420
    @fatslob420 3 года назад

    Great video however there is another issue which is caused by higher FPS is in the mission where we go for burglary with Rider, if you pick up boxes while on higher frame rate, it weirdly causes CJ to instantly die or teleport a few feet away causing the noise bar to increase and alerting the sleeping owner of the house we are breaking in. This issue is also observed in other parts of the map in which if you attempt to climb something especially close to a wall, CJ instantly dies again.

  • @amvymavy
    @amvymavy 3 года назад +1

    Even GTA 5 still have this problem. Of course it's not really game breaking or anything but some things still behave a bit differently when you have lower or higher frame rate

  • @7Elwaybronco
    @7Elwaybronco 3 года назад

    "Sometimes dead is better...." - Jud

  • @DavisMakesGames
    @DavisMakesGames 3 года назад

    Also 1:15 the dot on the minimap freaking out made me laugh so hard

  • @slendermanRblx
    @slendermanRblx 3 года назад

    When you said 30fps I was expecting a 25FPS (PAL) vs 30FPS (NTSC) discussion

  • @Speed4Runs
    @Speed4Runs 3 года назад

    I've never had that swimming problem with uncapped fps

  • @Motoralbi
    @Motoralbi 3 года назад

    Cars also shake like crazy when the cap is removed and you steer, it's visible in the video too. I would've never have thought it could be an FPS-related problem

  • @snakeface5652
    @snakeface5652 3 года назад +1

    I remember too, at least on the retail copy I have, if the fps reaches too high the game crashes.

  • @sabry000
    @sabry000 3 года назад +1

    Its so lovely to hear the word woota from a british person 😌

  • @jonathansoko1085
    @jonathansoko1085 3 года назад

    I typed out a 5 paragraph formatted essay after reading the title then chilled out

  • @NkeliteYT
    @NkeliteYT 3 года назад +1

    "SOMETIMES"

  • @tobendermungo8497
    @tobendermungo8497 3 года назад

    Vice city driving backwards was nearly impossible.

  • @tw1tch09
    @tw1tch09 3 года назад

    Nothing like taking the quad bike in back o’ beyond or taking the NRG 900 around the state for a few hours, listening to K-DST.

  • @mehdimido5270
    @mehdimido5270 3 года назад +1

    I had a problem in the ship mission when i jump i die instantly i had to play the mission with a 30 frame cap

  • @BadassBobY
    @BadassBobY 2 года назад

    "Sometimes 30 fps is best...
    your PC can do."

  • @yanmustand
    @yanmustand 3 года назад

    Omg that explains so many frustrations from way way back

  • @Tylobic
    @Tylobic 3 года назад

    Also with uncapped FPS:
    0:26 cop stars on the right are blinking really really fast
    1:05 yellow dots on the minimap are going super fast as well

  • @patrickbernasor7274
    @patrickbernasor7274 3 года назад

    how can we dislike your vid? haha. awesome video once again man.

  • @minakoarisato4293
    @minakoarisato4293 3 года назад

    Vice city did this to me
    My car would always go to a screeching halt after letting go of the gas

  • @donerhd5192
    @donerhd5192 3 года назад

    One of the earlier Missions with Ryder, where you had to rob that old veterans house while he was sleeping, I had the Frame Limiter turned off, and when I was picking up certain crates, it would either make CJ bug up in the air which would create a loud sound on the sound o meter, and will wake up the owner of the house, or it will simply kill CJ on Spot, where both causes the mission to fail

  • @ayushsinghchauhan9558
    @ayushsinghchauhan9558 3 года назад +1

    There is a mission in battlefield hardline where unlocked fps prevents you to go out of jail in one mission

  • @DyoKasparov
    @DyoKasparov 3 года назад

    Note that YOU DONT NEED RIVA TUNER TO CAP FPS - If you have Nvidia GPU, you can go to nvidia control panel and cap the framerate to certain games there

  • @foop6499
    @foop6499 3 года назад

    I like watching these kinds of videos. Keep it up.

  • @rockocean8527
    @rockocean8527 3 года назад

    There was a mission in VC in which you had to fly a plane and drop flyers across the city, but uncapped FPS would make the plane unable to actually fly, and i spent an hour trying to fix it. I was pissed that the fix was just locking the frames and didn’t play the game for a week out of spite

  • @Gahwotchii
    @Gahwotchii 3 года назад

    in vice city if you play uncapped, the clouds will move fastly and randomly as if there is a doomsday happening

  • @Lancemarkful
    @Lancemarkful 2 года назад

    C&C 3 Tiberium Wars had internal game clock sync with framerate, so it was capped at 30 only

  • @MethmalDhananjaya
    @MethmalDhananjaya 3 года назад

    Even the technology giving you hints that expecting too much all the time could cause issues.

  • @Goldenhordemilo
    @Goldenhordemilo 3 года назад

    swimming and diving is the first thing i do for my fittness

  • @alcedob.5850
    @alcedob.5850 3 года назад

    Just in time for the remaster

  • @rcsibiu
    @rcsibiu 3 года назад

    Same happened in GTA 3....the pedestrians are so weird if you go over 60 fps

  • @a.bamatraf6054
    @a.bamatraf6054 3 года назад +1

    in GTA IV final mission too, i have to lock 30 fps to finish it

  • @user-vo3ps2oz7h
    @user-vo3ps2oz7h 3 года назад +1

    Imagine playing cyberpunk at 400 fps in 2030