Lowe's Adopts 4-Day Work Week! (Here's Why)
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- Опубликовано: 12 авг 2022
- Lowe's Adopts 4-Day Work Week! (Here's Why)
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When I was a dental assistant I always had a four day work week, because the dentists need a day off to go golfing on Fridays. 🤣
Every company should do the 4 day workweek
If it makes sence! We were offered a 4 day work week but couldn’t choose Monday or Friday so I kept my 5 day work week.
@@karenjensen2345 if you got a doctors or other appt during the week comes in handy
Not everyone can do 10hrs either due family or health or other reasons. One size doesn't fit all
Yes, you're on your own if your plumbing fails. Good luck with that
4 ( 8-hr days though, not 10)
When I worked for the military as a contractor we worked 4 10 hour shifts.. It was great.. half were off monday and half off friday... You could switch with someone as long as there was no problems (which there never was).. My manager added it up and we were 30% more productive and people took less days off.
goverment jobs are not real jobs
I work 12 hours a day. And 3 days one week and 5 the next week. It is was great. Until we started losing so many people. Now the are forcing some people 6 days a week and 12 hours a day. Hopefully we get back to normal.
And probably fewer call outs of work.
Yeah see it's smart! They don't want to change though and everyone usually calls out on Monday I would a lot
4 day work week rocks. If I had the choice between 5x8hours, 2 days off or 4x10hours 3 days off. Hell yes 4 days is way better
I moved to a four day week in Ireland, best thing ever happened
I never understood why people in retail don't have a set schedule and rotate weekends and holidays. Glad to see Lowes is making changes.
When I worked in retail when I was in high school and college, all I could do for my schedule was say I'm in class at these times, and I can work these times.
@@lexington476 me too! Makes it very challenging to plan with family and friends ahead of time. I can't even imagine what it's like for families.
The manager who does scheduling has favoritism/biases. They will always give themselves and their friends the best schedules while everyone else just gets slotted. If everything was equal, they wouldn't be able to monopolize the schedule.
One reason is there are lots of no call no shows where they will call you on your day off. The other reason is people quit constantly and so they make people cover those shifts. Every year I worked in retail they had new faces a year later. Then people request off so it's really difficult to keep things constant.
Yes, I went through this years ago in retail AND they would call me in on my day off when someone else called off 🤦 I would politely refuse because I hadn't had a day off in 8-10 days...
I'm a software engineer at Lowe's. My team has been doing no meeting Fridays since I joined last year and it's been great!
I work 3 days a wk 12 hr shifts, its the best.. i get 3 days off and 5 days off . Im able to go on mini vacation on my 5 days off without using my PTO. I also got a per diem job and pick up shifts every 2 wks as extra money in my pocket and still have enough days off in a wk..
This is how it should be. With people taking laptops home and having email on their phones, most of us work 10-12hours a day anyway
Yeye M, what line of work are you in?
@@andrewb.2202 respiratory therapist..
My friend managed a Lowes for a couple of years. He is clean and sober, hard working, smart and very dependable and punctual. He had a nervous breakdown towards the end of year 2 and quit. He told me he had absolutely no life out side of sleep and Lowes. If he was lucky enough to get a day off most of the time some one would call off or not show up and he was stuck there. Nobody would cover him because they all went thru the same shit.
I work Mon-Thurs 10 hour shifts and have Fridays off and I love it
My work couldn't afford to give workers a raise to keep up the rising with cost of living, so they moved us to a four day 32 hour schedule while keeping us all on full time.
4 day work week is the absolute best.
I can tell you the executive communication from Lowe's was that the 4 day work week was also to help employees reduce their commute to save on gas.
i can tell you nobody at my store took the schedule because you will most likely work every weekend ,and you are not guaranteed your days off will be consecutive , when it comes to lowes believe half of what they put out to the media.
I worked at one of their distribution centers from 2004-2008. They had a 4 day work week at the DC's back then and I loved it.
Medical field has been doing this for decades. I'm a radiographer, and some of us do 4 - 10s, some do 3 - 12s, some do 2 - 16s and one 8, and some perfer the 5 - 8s. It's one of the things keeping me in the med field
As a nuclear pharmacist, I would love that. But it doesn't seem to be an option on the manufacturer's end unless hospitals all adopted the same 4 days of the week to scan patients. Short staffing means 70-80 hour weeks 5-6 days per week. 4 10s would be a dream
3 12s is the way to go.
I'm sure it'll be frustrating for people to adjust but I think working four ten hour shifts per week would increase morale nationwide the likes of which we've never seen
And everybody will be broke but happy. Gotta work 60 hours nowadays. I work 60ish at like 30 bucks an hour.
@@zp1191 I'm referring to working 4 10's
It would be better if inflation was reduced.
Absolutely not. I have worked 4-10s and it sucks. You feel like you work 4 days without stop. With 5-8s, I have enough time after work to chill and start another day fresh.
@@ChadAV69 everyone is different. I prefer to get my work done sooner rather than drag it out. I'd even do 3 12s and a 4, Monday through Thursday, if possible
Working retail it’s common to never have a Saturday or Sunday off. These are usually the most busiest days
I work 2 days a week. I'm part of week-end team ( 2 * 12 hours , Saturday and Sunday ). And I''ve been working like this since 2018. So I have 5 days off. At an IKEA warehouse in France.
Years ago I was a team lead at Target. 4-10 hour days. Mon-Thurs first week and Tues-Fri the following week. Every other weekend was a 4 day weekend.
I'd love that kind of schedule!!
Who worked weekends?!
@@amyx231 I do, and it's not too bad. A 4 day work week would be amazing!! 🤩
Great shift
I worked 4-10s for several years at my former job. I loved it. It's important to have at least two days off in a row. Also, having a set schedule, flexibility & PTO allows people to spend time with their families, attend appointments, etc.
Hopefully, this helps Lowes hire experienced employees. I rarely shop at Lowe’s because they have the worst customer service I’ve ever experienced anywhere. Many times, there are ZERO cashiers, high school students in departments who have no idea how to help a homeowner with products - Lowes does not educate their employees on products. My sister in law works at Menard’s FT now because it pays more than her job with the Sheriff’s department. And, she makes $3 more an hour when she works weekends.
They’re more pleasant than Home Depot Employees 🤷♂️. Point taken though
Home Depot is really no better. Just saying...
Doubt it. People do more and more of their shopping online. You can get much more info online than 15 years ago. Customers really don't have to rely on retail employees for information at all anymore.
These kids can't change out a toilet seat much less glue PCV 😂
Our Lowes is pretty good, I can find knowledgeable assistance most of the time.
How about a 4-day work week 32 hours and get paid for 40
The US romanticizing work needs to stop. I am a salaried exempt worker at a Lowes competitor and I often do 7-day work weeks. When I raise an objection to to this, my boss says it is part of the job. Do you really think I focus and put my best effort in with no downtime? You don't need 3 guesses to answer correctly.
“The US romanticizing work”…. I like that! Gonna steal it! 👍
You need to leave
@@jlaw1901 Agreed, I am actively looking. Not leaving the current place until the new place is in the bag.
@@treeroofgrass Have at it. That quote is always free to a good home! :)
It’s never been easier to find a better job thanks to covid shutdowns.
I worked at Lowe's to learn skills for a few months this year. I had no idea that my manager wasn't setting my schedule every week! I even complimented them for how well they were scheduling me.
This is FANTASTIC! Great way to help your employees out and taking their input into account is wonderful!
I work 4 days a week. It's a blessing.
As a Lowe’s employee the past 15 months. Lowe’s is one of the best companies I’ve worked for in terms of innovation and growth. Very aware of political/social/emotional climate. I can’t speak for all stores of course, but working for one of the busier stores has been a blessing 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
They have always worked with me on scheduling 💪🏾
Companies should not be involved in politics, social concerns or anything else other than making a profit in an ethical way.
@@CallSaul489 private companies should be able to do whatever they want. If you don't like it, don't shop there. That's what is supposed to happen in a free market. Note that the uber conservative owner of Home Depot is literally on Fox News once a week spewing political and economic nonsense. He's pissed at the workers because they're all leaving to go work at Lowe's, as Lowe's clearly embraces and values their employees, far more than Home Depot does.
Politics at work is annoying af, idc what side you're on. Wokeness is especially cringe because they don't even realize they're the ones being racist most of the time. Why do they think women, non-whites, and non-hetero need special treatment? Because they see them as inferior, that's why.
Their prices are way too high.
Home Depot or Menards is the place.
@@maxmoser412I’m guessing you’re a democrat. Why are you watching Dave Ramsey? You know he’s conservative right?
Also…I don’t shop at Lowes because they aren’t even close as good as Home Depot in terms of product selection, store experience and pricing. Another keyboard sigma male we got here folks.
This is good news!! Great job Lowes for moving forward instead of dragging their feet! I will keep this in mind when deciding between Lowes and Home Depot 😊
I used to work 4, 10 hour shifts and I loved it. It is surprising how much work you can get done when you have limited time to do it. There is no pushing it off until tomorrow.
I work at Lowes and have been on a 4 day work week for over a year. I do believe full time associates were given the option company wide a few months ago. I love it sometimes it works out that I end up with 4-5 days in a row off without using any vacation time.
What time do do full time employees shift start ?
@@TyairaSmith-zm7uw depends on the position and the department. I don’t have a set schedule it varies. Specialists typically start at 8 for day shift 10 for mid shift and 12 for closing shift but any other positions depends on what’s needed
Outstanding Job Lowes as a Retail Dock Worker I Agree with this Move I'll work 10-12 hours if I can have two days off consecutive
I worked in the printing industry in Nashville back in the late 90's before becoming self employed and we had four day work weeks. I totally loved it and heck, two more hours for four days was a week was no sweat.
i ve worked 4 on 4 off , brilliant shift pattern
I worked 4 tens in the construction industry 30 years ago . The only problem I see at least for me working over 8 hours you physical and mental ability decline quite a bit . This can make you more prone to mistakes .
I actually did a study with a company I was working with at the time and we found that productivity was the same from 8-9.5 hours. the productivity didn't drop dramatically until after 10 hours. After that we capped hours at 10 a day. workforce was much happier
@@HH-le1vi what we did was physically and mentally demanding . I still preferred having the Friday off with 4 -10s
I did a 4 day work week when I worked at att and it was great. Worked from home and had a rotating schedule and every 6 weeks I had 6 days in a row off plus 6 weeks of vacation.
I work a 4 day work week and it is great!
My hometown papermill. Four 12 hour work days. 7am-7pm, 7am-7pm, then a 24 hour break 7pm-7am, 7pm-7am. 4 days off and do it again. There's no life besides sleep and work. Most days off are for recovery.
I work a 4 day work week in my company. I love it.
I work at Lowes the computer still does the scheduling for the 4 day work week. This option almost always will lead to no weekends.
Use to do 4 10s...when it fit my schedule...was nice getting Wednesday off. But working from home I'm not driving 2 hours a day so I'm ok with 5 day of 8 hours. It's definitely a good option for some to have.
My son works for Mouser Electronics and has 4 day shifts. He loves it and I definitely see the benefits for worker moral. Obviously there are many jobs its not practical for but overall its a great idea
During COVID we had 4 day work weeks to respect salary reductions. Everyone loved it. After we returned to 5 day work weeks a lot of people requested to keep their salary reduction so that they could retain the 4 day work week. It was a pretty interesting data point. So our company does spring and summer Fridays now. Everyone can leave at 1pm on Fridays if they're done with their work.
What type of company is it?
@@superblump87 design agency
@@cerebralvision I work 4 days a week 8 hours a week. I love it I have more time with my friends and family.
Computer scheduling is becoming pretty common. It’s terrible. My manager’s exact words were, “it’s what’s best for the company.” And that’s why the turnover rate is through the roof.
I worked for Lowe's for 2 years in my early twenties and they were constantly getting fined by the state, they gave no benefits to part-time workers and literally no raises. On the other hand at home Depot I received better pay benefits better scheduling better co-workers better training and better company morale.
Super Walking tours, Lowes must pay better there. I work at Home Depot, and many experienced employees have left Home depot for lowes because Lowes pays a little better. I could never work retail for a career. It is a good job while going to school.
I loved 4 day work weeks. I now want to apply at Lowe's.
4 day work week is the future. Good on Lowe's
I like this. Amazon does this already for Delivery Drivers and I’m not sure if this is in every area but here in WA they had it. I recommend being a delivery driver but I just couldn’t continue to do it because I have back and hip problems. But the pay is good and it’s kinda fun. 4 day 10 hour shift which isn’t bad really. 10 hours isn’t bad.
We do 12 hour days at a 4 day on 4 day off basis. This works very well for all of us. You get paid slightly more than 40 hours per week on average, and it leaves you to enjoy a small holiday on any week you choose. Also, if someone calls in sick and you get called in, you'd still have 3 days to yourself.
Granted that this works only for a 12 or 24 hour operation for a larger company. The way you roster people's initial days are key, so you can minimise calling someone in when they are on day 2 or 3 of their 4 days off.
I hope this is true! I remember working 6 on all the time. We’d have Saturday off and then work 6 straight. Gotta love retail! Hahaha
My friend who works in a grocery store in NJ is part of a union that requires all full time employees to work 6 days per week and it must include Sunday. Nobody has a life. THey have a hard time getting people to cover shifts for emergencies. They cant keep good staff. This union is ruining this industry. My friend had to negotiate a regular week, she threatened to go part time. Since the business is privately held the owners eventually made her a 5 day week at full time. But he must have twisted someones arm in the union. I have never met anyone whos work in retail that knew there schedule more than 2 days ahead of time. Its abusive
Thank you... Please follow up. They need better labour pool and retention. But will never let go of Kronos. Never let Store leaders well be leaders. There's no check box for making sure a department has an employee during peek hours...It's a simple thing making a schedule except when you have one person doing three jobs.
Im in the uk and i work 4days a week, it's a blessing
I work at a big name craft store. Tuesday and Wednesday I worked from 4:30-9, Friday I worked 11-7, and today I’m working 10-6. My schedule is never the same, and I think the last time I got a Saturday off was on my honeymoon a month or two ago, and only because it was my honeymoon. Thankfully though, we get Sundays off.
Edit: Once the schedule is made, it’s nearly impossible to trade shifts because the hours are so variable. So if something comes up and you really need a day off, you just have to pretend you’re sick and call in.
You can say where you work...no one knows who you are
@@homeslice4551 I work at Hobby Lobby.
You didn't have to, everybody knows who's closed on Sunday
Our local lowes had terrible service. Recently I have noticed that the employees are more engaging and helpful and even some long time people there I know have ifnored me for years are actually now coming up to me and asking if I need any help. There has obviously been an emphasis on better service. I wonder if its driven by corporate or just better local management.
There's no way I would work at a job where my days off were split up. (unless I had no other option I suppose) Zero relaxation because you always are preparing for work tomorrow.
I was the Personnel Operator for Kohls and we used the computer scheduling system too. It was a mess!!
I'm not the 4 day work week fan. My job is too labor intensive. Neuropathy is painful.
Good for you Lowe's!
All for 4 day work weeks, not too sure about keeping the 40 hours though. The idea is a better work/life balance, hard to see that with 10 hour shift per day.
Think flexibility is key, can't accommodate every wish but if possible give employees options.
Some want more money, some want more time for themselves/their lives.
I've always loved Lowes.
Amazon delivery drivers usually follow the same structure. 10 hour shifts 4 days a week. Best work life balance I've had. Some DSPs also offer daily pay. I was payed for 10 hours no matter how fast I finished my route. Which actually encouraged me to go faster and do better. Because it made me feel like I was making more money for the amount of time invested. Increasing my productivity as a whole. If I was payed hourly I would actually be incentivized to go as slow as possible to maximize my earnings. How can one of the scummiest companies on the face of the planet get it right? And now one else seems to get it?
Many construction companies work 4 days @ 10 hours per day. Monday through Thursday.
HEB has a 4 day work week and people love it.
I'm assuming they're going to do what Disney does and have everyone as a part-time employee so they don't have to give out benefits and such
My husband work has adopt this new trend and no hit to his salary. im very jealous of it since i work in healthcare, which health care never has a day off
I work remotely for a health insurance company and our call center just adopted the four day work week option.
I think most businesses should do this and I guarantee people would be much happier!!!
The second part about leadership asking how your folks are doing, do you need anything, I wish our manager would do that. I might not be so bent on leaving at this point. Is there a text version of the leadership quote or a way I can send it to someone anonymously?
I don't know why Americans hate the four day work week. I love it. It is in the scheduling that make it work out right. Less travel time to and from work too. Save gas and extra day off.
I am a team manager at a major grocery company. I am told by store management to schedule according to business needs. Essentially, to treat my teams' schedule just as bad as the computer you are talking about. My schedule is even worse. I am finding another career.
I worked retail for 10+ years, I know that pain in the ass schedule. You better be a spontaneous individual who doesnt need a lot of time to decompress.
I''ve done both. They both have pros and cons. While it's nice to condense 5 days into 4, having 3 days off, especially if they're in a row, can get pretty boring at times.
It’s pretty sad you can’t find something to do with your time outside of work.
That shouldn’t be a con. So many things to do in life besides work.
School week needs to be 4 too! Mental health is out of control and this could help relieve stress for students. 1 day for physical activity, sports, clubs, art, something fun! Thoughts?
Nice thought, but my bet is kids would just play more Call of Duty and stare at screens.
@@wahoocharlie true! And fort ite. Lol
@@wahoocharlie
As long as your kid doesn’t end up on the streets doing some criminal activities.
Your kids playing video games is the least of your worries.
Lowes still uses a computer progra. (Kronos)for scheduling.
Depth Supervisors still don't get an option for a 4 day work week. And neither do sales specialist.
These are the primarily sales floor associates that drive sales.
Been working 4 day work weeks for 20 plus years
Love 4-10s
Most people talking about a 4 day work week want 40 hours of pay for 32 hours of work. Lots of industries already offer four 10 hour shifts.
I see Lowe's actually listens. I'm applying and leaving Walmart because my schedule is all over the place
I work at th mairne and they I ve been working a 4 days a week and 3 days off but it’s rotating and definitely off weekends the 3rd off day rotates
4-10's would work great but there are crybabies who will complain because they would rather be 8 to 4 and out the door and only 2 days off, I'm federal and will be bringing this up to mgt. it can be done and would love the 3 days off in a row, it would allow more time with family/spouse and even a quick short vacay without having to take any leave and burn up vacation hours.
How about instead of working 40 hours a week for 4-5 days, how about pay them double and work 20 hours a week for two days?
Dibs on the dinosaur 🦕 William!
i work in Security and have for a long time and 8weeks with no weekend off is nothing comparatively , i hate it so much and try to avoid it but ive had 6-8 months with no weekends off unless i request a day off and actually get it, if that post is 24/7 and you are on weekends thats it you are on weekends until someone quits and you are in line for a new schedule , no rotations no holidays nothing . it sucks having no life like that
As a US Mall Marshal I don't mind the schedule, but I struggle with the authority of the badge going to my head. 🚨
I work security part time as a side hustle and that’s exactly what the full timers go through. Their schedules are so wonky 1st shift one day then 3rd the next then 2nd shift plus the insurance and PTO accrual sucks. HR remains perpetually they’re shocked and perplexed as to why the turnover is so high 🤦🏽♀️🙄 it’s a great PT gig but would only do it FT as a last resort
"Worked" security.
Except for in California and Alaska due to overtime laws.
Thing about computer programs, they can be changed...
The data is there, just build in reasonable time on/off logic?
The comments of the old scheduling system are true, I would work 9 days straight never knowing what shift. It could be 2-11 and 5am-3 the next. But it really hasn’t gotten that much better. The 4 day work week is only offered to FT and they’re doing away with those positions and going to majority part timers who they only schedule 3-5 hr shifts. Almost every day there is opener and one closer. And some don’t have that so it’s one employee having to work 3 departments. The 4 day choice also means you can choose a shift window if it’s available and you give up your Friday-Sunday. Those are off limit days to choose from. Basically you have random shifts and days and atleast a weekend thrown in There or set two days and no weekends. Supervisors still have rotations for now but Fridays were eliminated from them and you get 1 weekend per month. Shift times are random and “to the needs of the store” as is everything else there. If you want hours and any sort of personal life lowes is not the place. Yes they pay more than most but compared to the other major retail and grocery stores near by they don’t pay enough. People make more money at H‑E‑B to bag groceries than a lowes employee is is forced to lift items ranging from lumber to concrete to large appliances and majority of the time alone. Along with try to attend to customers and get yelled at for not making sell’s. They say they care about the employees but until they see what they’ve turned their store into first hand running people like dogs they’ll never change. That’s corporate for you.
Mr. Coleman, would like to hear your thoughts: will companies try to implement Blue Laws or something like it, to give their workers a rest day?
I have worked in logistics for 28 years and what I have saw with my own eyes is mind blowing. This 4 day work week and work at home is causing a lot of the shortages and delays that are being blamed labor shortages. Customers vendors and people I work with could care less doing the right thing for anybody else but themselves. You cannot find any body past noon on Thursday. I know of air conditioning equipment sitting in warehouse that need to be installed Friday but here in august on Sunday it is sitting because of a 4 day work week employee.
My problem with all this is haven't they also had multiple studies that show happier employees are harder worker and more productive employees it goes hand-in-hand you would think the employer would want to make the employee happy so they would get more productivity out of them that's what they're paying them for
Walmart for their warehouses does 3 12s or 4 10s
4 10s are like a new freeway lane.Its great at 1st but once too many people are doing it everything will get just as crowded and wreck the advantage.
Lockheed Martin has been on a 4 day work week for over two years now.
Doing manual scheduling for that many EEs and nuances doesn’t make sense. What does make sense is using tech then sweeping it as a people leader to make adjustments to nuances that the tech misses.
The tech needs to be optimized or replaced if it doesn’t permit rules to be entered (ex/ Every third weekend off, 4 hour shifts only). Add in union and non-union staff, seniority, student study permit max hours, injury restrictions and unconscious bias, the tech helps when used correctly. Incorporate the tech with an LMS and you’re golden (Ex. FL driver license)
At lowes if you choose a 4day work week you never get a weekend off. We are to get a weekend off every month however it didn't work work out that way.
I have worked 4/10 over 20 years. Physically its better to have the 3 days for your body to recover in a physically demanding job.
I work at lowes 4days week
Once you get to a certain age in my experience you don’t give a poop about weekends off as long as you get 2 days off
4 hrs PTO/Earned time per check just isnt enough for a vacation. Those days are needed for appts.
Retail is generally weekends and odd shifts. 🤷🏻♂️
LOL I asked my manager for a 4 day week and he asked “4 days 10 hours each?” Ummm 🤨 no 32 hours a week. Sure for a cut in pay no more salary. I can do my job in 32 but not for a pay cut!
Same here. 32 hours with just mean a lot less BSing at work. But I definitely would not want to work 10-hour days, that's exhausting and you have no time after work to do anything.
Calif. Requires ot pay for any hours over 8hrs each day.