Adjusting To Transition - Arsenal Use & Progression feat. James!
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- This is a video about adjusting to transition and arsenal assembly and use featuring our newest tester James, a 500+ rev rate righty who is integrating his new Infinite PhysiX and Zen Soul into his existing lineup!
James' stats: 525 revs, 18 mph speed, 0 degrees tilt, 45 degrees angle of rotation
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More of James, Please. Now with a high Rev righty, a tweeter lefty, and lov speed low Rev righty, you got your own Tamar bowling crew now lol
Yes! Lol Its hard to get a good read on balls with some other reviews but James is pretty close to my rev rate so I will be watching this channel religiously
Coming back to this video a year later. I really think this one is so valuable in eye training, and learning how cover/core affects progression. 10/10. Will watch over and over.
Very helpful for those of us trying to get better at recognizing when and what adjustments to make much quicker. I'll be watching these adjusting transition videos probably 50 times, thanks Luke.
What I have been doing is when I KNOW that I have thrown a really good shot and the does something unexpected. Like runs up deep and maybe still strikes but I feel like I got away with one. If I've already moved left as much as I'm willing to I've got about 1.5 more speed to play with, I'll use that among others before I will actually change balls. If adjustments fail then I'll change balls
Somebody who can't afford more than 1 or 2 balls this video was fantastic for helping me choose what ball they get here soon.
This has to be one of the most instructional (and enlightening) bowling videos in recent times! Pretty much revolutionary compared to what's out there.
ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS VIDEO! Almost as if you'd read my mind...i was thinking just yesterday that, as good as Angel bowls, her speed and rev rate is so slow that its hard to really imagine how a ball might look for me as a 2 handed righty. Your look was better, but of course you bowl left handed, so the introduction of the new guy is much more applicable to me, and i still have the benefit of your SUPERB analysis!
Now, all that aside, i LOVE this ball transition video! Ive been looking for aomething like this and they just don't really exist. Anyway, it was just perfect. I only wish i owned more of these same balls to have it hit home even more, but even so, i know enough about them that i can compare my similar arsenal. I hope youll do more of these. Awesome!
This is extremely valuable for me. More of this kind of content, please. I would also be interested to see a little more in depth explanation of each change, maybe with fewer. Something that would help fill out a three or four ball arsenal.
Thank you, Luke, for this gift.
Great addition to your channel. As much as I hate to admit it, I started watching your content less after you switched to the left side as I didn’t resonate with a lefty’s or angel’s perspective on the lanes. Adding James will only enhance the channel and your content, which already was excellent!
I’ll be keeping a closer eye out for your future content :)
Totally get it, and this is a big part of the reason I added him. Realistically, most bowlers are righty, and the whole world is going high rev, that's just the reality of it. No matter how well I describe things or how much information I give, seeing the ball reaction is still the most important.
James is a great addition!
this video is the best. as a 2 hander, its so hard to find good info. also, the way everyone is trying to sell me the infinite, i would never have guessed how strong it is so thanks you saved me from a big headache as well.
would love to see more progression videos just like this.
Yeah I was running a bit of extra surface vs factory on my Infinite but when it's in my bag there's rarely anything above it. Very strong ball and pretty predictable with that pin-down layout I've got on mine!
yes, more of this fella. havent missed a vid in 9 months. good stuff.
More of James . Nice release and monster revrate
Yep, that will be happening. He started throwing b7 earlier last year after having several flops like the tnt and DNA, so naturally I couldn't put him in any more videos. Now that I'm unaffiliated, he'll be returning!
Been waiting for a high rev righty to be on this channel for a while. I miss your old videos when you were right handed but I watch the new ones anyway since you seem to know what your talking about. You also make learning bowling balls really simple
This is helpful. I struggle with making moves and ball changes.
Great demonstration and explanation. Thanks
7:07 that messenger was sick!
James is cool
I really enjoy the pairing of a high Rev rate bowler with your analysis. I already came to you bc you are a lefty, but now I can also get more tips to match my style as well!
This is a great video. Could you do a similar video for angel since she has a lower rev rate as well as one on you? Multiple ways of doing a transition
Yup! It'd be great to do with her because she doesn't like moving left that far and transition can be really rough for her
@@LukeRosdahl Film it and we will watch it lol. I have same issues as Angel. I want to stay w my ball rolling over arrow boards 10-16ish. Anything left of 18-20 arrow I'm lost.
@@BigJim5754 same. When I started bowling a couple years ago I was standing on 20 and throwing up 12-15. Now I’m standing 12-15 throwing up 7-10.
in the 8 gamer tournaments, I have gotten to where I can play 4th hour and not have a panic attack. That has been pretty fun to learn and didn't think I would get there. But with Luke's help and not really any other option LOL, it has worked!
Brilliant!!! as usual .
Very helpful video!
I like the variety of all three of you. Cool to see what balls work with what kind of bowler.
I struggle with knowing when to move and when to change balls. Love this kind of content.
This was a great great great video. Also, more of James. I will be watching again as I get ready for the TAT and a few other tournaments and can on bring 6 balls due to travel. This was super helpful honestly.
Great video, been watching @Shim Wrecker Enterprises for a while now and glad to see him out in KC. Great commentary and logical progression on the balls -- I was curious to see the IQTS so low in the mix since that'll be my new benchmark this season, but the explanation as to where he thought it would fit matched my expectations. Keep it up!
Great vid. Hopefully there's an arsenal sequence vid with a sport shot coming up soon.
Yes actually!
@@LukeRosdahl awesome. Thanks!
Good production as always 👏🏽
One of my favorite videos of all time from you. So well done!
Great addition to your channel 👏. Can't wait to see how Angel does in this setting. More my style of revs.
I enjoy it very much! Luke has such a vast amount of knowledge and no shortage of words, so this works wonderfully.
Thanks so much for all this info. Been looking up so much about arsenal building that it all starts to look the same. You have made it easy to digest in a different way than anyone else. It was especially helpful to see the lane transition and WHY building arsenal is crucial (for a high rev player like so many of us). Wished I saw this earlier on my arsenal building journey so I could have saved so much time lol.
Definitely a cool jersey! Informative video. The Kniffmonster looked good. I love this type of video!! Keep up the good work.
More videos like this please. It was very informative and answered a lot of questions I'd been having about when to ball change.
this. was. AWESOME!
kniffen is a stud!!!
Debatable lol
This has been the best bowling information so far. Keep up with the great works. And Thanks you
I needed this, thank you
Great video. I love this concept.
The video I didn’t know I needed
Love it Luke! The Shim Wrecker in KC is a perfect match. This would be a great series to see with you and Angel also. I'm more curious about Angel's adjustments in a long block myself.
Thanks for this video. Like so many others, I struggle with how to react to transition. I appreciate to descriptions on why each move was made and what he was looking to see from them.
very helpful video. i am a big fan of his game
Appreciate it!
Great video Luke. I liked that you put some visuals to all the notes you are giving us during your short ball reviews. Seeing the cover to core relationship on a transition is very helpful. Especially with someone who creates so much shape.
Yeah it's actually pretty easy to see the ball to ball differences with him, sometimes higher rev bowlers make everything run together but you can really see what's going on when he throws stuff
Nice, thanks.
Knowing your equipment is imperative
Would love to see this exact same video with you and your arsenal, as well as Angel and hers. I understand there will be less balls, less transitions, but the information on how/when/why is more valuable than the amount of balls thrown.
Yup, have had a lot of requests already for that, so I'll definitely get those done!
Great video and breakdown. I'm sure someone has mentioned this in the comments already but I would love to see the same type of video for a lower rev player.
Yup, already been requested a couple times now so I'm going to do it with angel at some point because straighter players can't just move a couple arrows left like James can
This is one of the best videos you have ever done! Keep it up Luke 😎
Wow! Incredible video and commentary. I was waiting to see the Hustle Wine at the end. :)
I like seeing the high rev player. I would also be interested in a high rev / slower speed - example 450 revs at 14 to 15 mph. The struggle is real in transition for this guy.
Love the addition of James. It’s great to hear your analysis paired with visuals I can more closely relate to.
Can you share James’ PAP and axis tilt with us?
PAP is 4.75R 1.25U, haven’t checked axis tilt in a bit but it’s pretty low.
@@ShimWreckerEnterprises thanks a lot, James.
I’ve been checking out your channel a bit in anticipation of Luke adding you to his team also. Appreciate the knowledge!
@@enigmazero8624 axis tilt is negative, don't let him lie to you. 😂😂😂
@@donkeydiehard879 lol not possible
@@donkeydiehard879 oh shush LOL
Awesome, thanks for all the info you provide us bowlers with. Keep up the great work. We all appreciate it 🙏 🙌
Love it 👌🏻
Very helpful
More of James
Amazing vid
Loving this type of explanation. Can you do a similar video with a Low Rev bowler and their methods for dealing with lane transition.
Yup, it'll be coming soon!
Love it. Great video
My arsenal lineup is similar to this, and I know it's different for each bowler based on much more than just the ball. But how would you/James progress through x-1, parallax, axiom, zen soul, axiom pearl, x-2, hustle rap? And what ball(s) would you say should be added to the bottom of the bag to bridge the gaps?
I can see how this series brings a lot of value. Would you say it's easier to discuss ball progressions by getting a high rev player vs you or Angel? I'm interested to see how progressions work for Angel and you as my style is between you and Angel.
Angel and Luke obviously have very different skillsets from me, so the way we approach transition is usually different. For me it's just "move an arrow left and hit it harder and it'll probably strike" LOL
My rev rate definitely highlights ball-to-ball differences a bit more, but there's also something to be said for managing things on a more subtle level like how Luke and Angel do if that makes sense.
Wish I could bowl like him
Thanks!
Much appreciated!!!
@@LukeRosdahl a small thing really! Forgot to mention that for my game I get a better idea of a is going to for me by watching Angel JR Raymond. But I get more details from you
This ball transition content is insane. Very fascinating and informative.
Question: I took my zen soul to the lanes one random night and the lanes must have been pretty beat up as the soul was hooking hard and very early. Do you have a few ball recommendations for the dryer lanes when I go out with friends on these dryer conditions? Med - high rev decent speed. Maybe a Phaze 2 (my buddy said I should get this), venom, hy-road Peral? Any other suggestions? Thanks!
What else you got in the bag? An OG HyRoad is usually a pretty safe bet for most folks for something like that...
This is some good stuff 🙌
Nice job with the video
great video ! Just curious what look he would have had if he started with the Hyped
I think we're going to do that next time, I'll have him throw like one shot of everything on the fresh, then progress through transition, then show one shot of everything on the mega burn at the end. He'd have been pretty far right with the Hyped.
On the dead fresh I probably would have had a strike-or-6-count (aka, great or awful) type of ball reaction. I'm not sure how much this shows through in the video but I was struggling to get my Infinite PhysiX started and my IQTS had zero chance of picking up in the right spot from the few test shots I threw before we started filming. In situations like that, I struggle to make very weak balls work well especially when there's a substantial amount of friction to the right on house shots.
If I were actually bowling for score in this situation, I probably would have gone Infinite -> Zen Soul -> Nova... Infinite to create traction on the fresh (this lane was quite tight), Zen Soul to blend out the track (since the Axiom was borderline too much ball), then Nova (which is a weaker cover and stronger core from the Soul) once the Soul got a touch lazy. Bit of a up-down-sideways progression but realistically that's probably how I would have managed it if I were going for score instead of showing a more linear top-to-bottom progression if that makes sense.
My son Mark has bowled in some sweepers with James at Buffaloe Lanes in NC.
I use to live in Durham NC, and bowled at Buffalo South/North/Mooresville/Pleasant Valley from 1988-1999. The owner's ""Johnny Buffalo and his brothers are great people !!!!
They only owned the ""Buffalo"" bowling centers South,North,Mooresville.
@@larryhudson1963 yup they are still running a great operation for the most part. Especially out of South. Truely care about league bowlers which is rare these days. Brad and Kyle came down for team championships this year. Video is on their channel, it was pretty cool.
Enjoyed seeing high rev bowler.
Is he pretty speed and rev matched? Or his speed or revs a little more dominant.
He can be whatever he wants, he can slow roll it or throw it a million, so it's going to be fun to have him on the channel
Depending on the shot is possible to carry the phaze 5 and idol synergy? I believe league bag no but tournament bag yes .
Yeah they're somewhat different shapes, but very close on total hook potential, so I'd agree with that.
Very informative video. Was the layout the same for each ball? If so, what was the layout?
All layouts are listed with a photo of the layout on the ball on the right side of the screen throughout the entirety of the video. I know he's mesmerizing to watch lol, but just go back through and watch the video again, all the info you want is there
Great video, can you do the same for yourself. I'm a lefty and know that because of the less traffic our game is more about controlling pocket, instead of fighting transition. So typically straighter angles and less pearl stuff.
Yep, definitely. Transition is absolutely different for us so that'll be an important one to make
Don't pee into the wind. Free tip for everyone.
It would have been interesting just for shits and gigs to see him go back to the top with the Phys right at the end for a last shot. We saw the whole progression and how deep he ended up with the Hyped, so seeing a direct comp to why the Phys would have been the wrong ball for that given scenario would be cool.
Yeah, someone else mentioned something like that too, so I think next time we'll do one shot of every ball on the fresh, then one shot of every ball once the lane is beat up to show the difference, that's a great suggestion.
@@LukeRosdahl awesome! It’ll really show off the point you’ve tried making in every ball review: balls aren’t “good” or “bad” at everything, they all have a purpose and the trick is knowing when to use what you have.
@@Icehawk_9 "balls all have a purpose" very well said!
So on my Thursday league It's a 5 game set. We bowl one game then move, then bowl 2 games then move again for the last 2. I was using my Dark code. Last game I was leaving 10 pins. I move half board right. I was through the nose. Move back to the left 10 pin again. Ugh. I was thinking I should have switched to the IQTS or even the pro motion and go straighter. What do you think Luke?
Either stay on top of the friction with something weaker or move left with something more responsive, it's unfortunately a case by case basis, this is more just to train your brain how to think and give you options to try out
Can you please do a video on how James create such a high rev rate and talk about talent vs technique?
Thank you…
Yep, we'll probably have a sit down with him at some point to discuss
@@LukeRosdahl 👀
Great video! Just a question, did he used otb surfaces in every ball or did he modified them? If so could you tell? Thanks a lot!
Infinite: Reacta Skuff on a spinner
Axiom: 3000 (factory) plus probably 8-10 games of lane shine
Nova: factory plus lane shine
Zen Soul: 10-15 games of lane shine on top of 4000
Zen: factory polish (this one was before the switch to 4k fast)
IQTS: 2000
Hyped Pearl: 4000+lane shine
So they were all pretty close for the most part. Exceptions were the Nova and ZS (I prefer them slightly shinier) and IQTS (I like it way more with surface). If I were to run the ZS with factory surface (3000 off the top of my head, I think?) then that'd get much closer to the Axiom as I was running it here.
Hope that helps!
@@ShimWreckerEnterprises thanks a lot!!!
@@miguelrmzp sure thing!
More James :) Also know anyone that does reviews of Brunswick brands with your product knowledge as well as quality of video?
Packy from the House is really all I know Charles from The Hype does SOME b7 reviews but not all, highly recommend them too but I don't think anyone covers all their brands
@@LukeRosdahl yeah I watch those ones. They don't really go through the technical aspects of how things relate to other balls across the portfolio though. Understanding core numbers is easy...understanding how cover formulas relate to each other not so much. B7 also seems to have a lot more covers than SPI
@@jamesmasotti B7 tends to make small adjustments to covers and give them new names instead of making them variants of other covers. Like where Storm goes R2S, R2X, R3S, etc., B7 will have 3 completely different names for small variations of the same formula. Makes it tricky to keep track of what does what, but that way they can also make everything sound "new." Marketing thing.
@@LukeRosdahl ::facepalm::
Echoing the request for a lower-rev bowler arsenal transition vid, could one also be done by a lefty, since lefties often face different transition challenges than righties?
Thank you
Yes to both! There's definitely value in it because higher rev bowlers like James can just keep moving left, but that's not the best option for lower rev or straighter bowlers because they lose ball reaction and carry quick. Conversely, on the left side of the lane, we have a lot less carrydown and it doesn't behave like it does on the right side, so those videos are definitely coming!
Where do you go to find the strength of coverstocks compared to other brands? all the brand sites I look at have their own metrics for determining strength and its hard to compare through descriptions. I'm trying to build my first real arsenal around a new ball I got because I'm having a big problem with the transition. The other balls in my bag are just too weak to cover the transition from a familiar spot for me. When I start overhooking and moving left and get a tight line, if i switch to my next strongest ball, i still need to move right into an unfamiliar part of the lane. When i do move right, it takes me too long to find my line with my weaker balls. Any advice appreciated :)
You can't really find anything to compare them from brand to brand, unfortunately it's largely experience based and finding people that you hopefully trust to help you out. This is more of a find a better local bowler or talk to someone at the pro shop about getting you lined up. The bowling equipment learning curve is fairly steep and it'll be hard to figure it out yourself
@@LukeRosdahl I appreciate the reply nonetheless. I used to bowl on my pro shop guys team in league so he used to help me out, but ive moved to a small town and there's few high average bowlers out here :P apparently the tang brothers arent too far away and they do some stuff with balls, a friend told me about it so i'll give that a try when i have the time i suppose
I like James and the way he throws the balls but need to know how fast he is throwing the ball
Comes off his hand at 18-19 mph usually, that's his "standard" speed
Luke, what would be your personal 3 ball arsenal for a THS as of today?
My core 3 right now if I had to pick would be Infinite PhysiX, Pro Motion, and Hyroad, I'd take those 3 anywhere on anything and take my chances. The Cosmos seems to be somewhat similar to the Pro Motion so far, so it's been seeing a lot of time too.
As a lefty, I'm curious about this word "transition"? What does it mean? 😀
Looool . .
I am looking for a ball in between my current ones
Storm Nova
Storm Axiom
Phaze 4
I desperately need a ball between the axiom and the phaze 4. Struggling to find the ball weaker than the axiom but not AS weak as the phaze 4.
Think the Zen or Phaze 3, both have weaker covers than the Axiom, but stronger than the P4. Zen Soul would also work, or an Idol Cosmos if you shined it up.
MoAr JaMeS, MOOAR!
How about a similar video for us lower rev rate righties
I had the request to make one for Angel and I think that's a great idea because she runs into a lot of trouble in transition because she can't just move 3 arrows left like James, so absolutely I'll do it!
Do you think the parallax effect is good on sport patterns?
With the shine knocked off and bowling on a heavy pattern, maybe. I think it's too sensitive to be that great, or at least better than something else anyway
@@LukeRosdahl ok so if you were only using spi what 8 balls would you bring to bowl on pba wolf ?
I'm not sure, depends on what center I was bowling at, but wolf is pretty flat and short so most people bring lots of urethane, iq tours, and controllable stuff. Wolf typically doesn't really allow much variance in what you end up using
@@LukeRosdahl Ok thanks, I have a tournament on that pattern in a month.
From the amount of comments it's safe to say Kniffen is #bowlingfamous-ish. 😂
Emphasis on the "ish" lol
I totally want to see someone more like me and advice that can easily apply to me more! Great content, keep up the good work luke!
Could someone explain to me what Luke means he says the axiom controls the lane "front to back"? I've learned a ton from these videos but I haven't hard this concept explained.
The Axiom is a stronger and more controllable ball. Instead of over skidding in oil and being too sharp on the dry, it gets enough traction in the oil to blend the lane and control the reaction better. Weaker balls can skid too far in the oil or be too sharp on the dry which makes them sensitive. Generally you want the ball to start slowing down towards the end of the lane so that it can start getting ready to make its move. Some oil patterns are designed to make this more difficult, for example having a ball overhook, and then you move inside a bit, and then all the sudden it underhooks. The Axiom gets enough traction to keep it from underhooking, while the control helps keep it from overhooking, or at least to the point that you can find a middle ground and aren't stuck with over/under ball reaction. Controlling the lane front to back means the ball can manage the stages of ball motion better because it's more in control, it's not as reactive to wet and dry. Controlling it side to side means that a ball can get back from misses right without overskidding OR rolling out, and can also hold more on misses inside.
The Axiom tends to read/roll at the same length down the lane whether you're playing straighter or deeper, it starts slowing down and making the transition through the stages of ball motion better than most other balls.
@@LukeRosdahl awesome. Thank you for the explanation. That makes perfect sense.
Could watch him throw balls all day
Still trying to decide what to get, Zen or Zen Soul. Choosing just one ball is so challenging 😅
Fortunately they're close ENOUGH that you're not going to really go wrong either way or really miss out.
@@LukeRosdahl really? Definitely good to know. All I have now is a Storm Tropical Heat from like 2012 haha. I'm trying to figure out what one super versatile ball to go with. I have a higher Rev rate and usually throw around 15mph so Zen is where I'm leaning.
@@fopm008 yeah Luke's right. My Zen Soul and Zen are same layout and VERY similar surfaces (both shiny), and the Soul is just marginally earlier and smoother but as you can see here it's just a slight difference to the point that if I were building a 4-to-6-ball bag for league or tournament play I'd probably take one but not both. They're both awesome balls.
@@jameskniffenjr.1244 oh I'm not doubting it. If you could only take one ball what ball would you go with? Doesn't have to be Zen or anything, just trying to find a super versatile ball haha
@@fopm008 oof choosing JUST ONE... that's tough. Would almost lean towards the Nova or IQTS out of everything here. Just looking for something where I can obliterate the pocket and take my chances with pin carry.
Picking just one is a very different proposition from adding to a bag that already exists though.
Dang I just gotta buy (and somehow carry) 10 balls and I'll be a good bowler 🤣 good informative video though it's hard to justify changing balls to your teammates when you're striking but this reinforces the hunches I have when my ball is clearly hooking too early
This is cool to see. His rev rate is even higher than mine and I'm 2 handed. But he is throwing it at around the same spot that I do. It's kinda weird being so much further left than where nost everyone else bowls, so watching what they do helps me 0.
Looks good except I would put the Phaze II where the axiom Is. At least for my game.
I would like to see, at the end of the video, what happens if you ball back up to one of the balls at the beginning of the video. I mean i know what theoretically should happen, but I would like the see it in a video
I would love to see a video like this but with hammer family equipment
Luke's on staff with Storm so you're probably in the wrong place for that to happen :)
@@ShimWreckerEnterprises Ya I realized that after I commented lol I’m a new subscriber. Love his content so far. To bad I don’t use storm lol
@@BigDad2150 all good! You should definitely join his Discord server though. Plenty of great discussion including non-Storm equipment!
discord.gg/stormnation
Yep it's all good, I definitely appreciate those that watch anyway despite not being interested in the brands!
@@LukeRosdahl If you know of a RUclipsr that uses any of the hammer family, please let me know 🙃 thanks!
This guys rev rate is NASTY......putting my 380 - 400 on the bench lol wish i had that!
What about low rev slower ball speed players?
As soon as we get the time, I'm going to do one for Angel and myself
Where would the astro physics and the x2 fit into this line up
Both would be in Nova territory, similar cover strengths, just a bit more length and shape vs the Nova
If I were to insert one of those into a bag like this, that'd probably be as a mid-block transition piece. Both of those are slightly weaker covers and more dynamic cores versus both of the Zens so when I struggle to get those down the lane something like an Astro or X2 would probably be in play for me. The Nova is kinda a similar concept just a bit earlier because it's a slightly stronger formula and a bit of surface vs the Astro/X2. Hope that makes sense!
Great video. But I think should start with the nova and than ball down to the infinite. The core of the nova wants to start the roll early
The Infinite cover formula is much stronger though, and the Infinite core is also stronger than the Nova, so the Infinite is the stronger ball by quite a bit
The Nova does have a slightly earlier-rolling core and layout, yes... but the Infinite has a MUCH stronger cover (as Luke accurately noted) so that's the top-of-the-bag piece when I need traction and blend+tumble... the Nova as you can see is much more sensitive to oil than the Infinite so isn't a good choice as a top-of-the-bag cut-through-oil ball like what you're suggesting.