Survival Uses of Potassium Permanganate
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Sootch reviews three specific survival uses of Potassium Permanganate: water purification, wound treatment and antiseptic and signaling options.
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In 1974/5 I was preparing to go on exercise to Malaya with my Infantry Platoon when Tinea broke out in the Platoon. We only had a few days left before we embarked and anyone who could not pass a medical on the day of departure would not go! The medic was flat out prescribing Prescription medication but it seemed to be having no effect that I could determine on my daily inspections. So I instructed the Medic to place bowls of Portassium Permanganate in the entrance to the showers and every soldier had to enter and exit the showers by walking through the bowls. I instructed that I would place on charge any soldier who I found that did not have "brown feet" when I did my inspection. [Portassium Permanganate stains the skin brown]. Within two days we had settled the Tinea problem and all embarked for the exercise. To this day, i still rely on Portassium Permanganate for all manner of issues - far better than any prescription medication.
How do I apply?
This stuff came in a science kit we received Christmas circa 1974 which had so many things in it that are now hard to obtain or not available to the general public and it was meant for school aged children back then...
WE didn't eat Washing powder, or liquid bleach back then. My brother got one then...we just make gun powder. Yes, it worked.
Could you mention anything else in the kit we’d need still?
@@Laffy1345 that could be the start of song. "We don't eat tide pods in muskogee we don't take trips on bleach. "
Those of us who were kids then were not stupid.
I had one in the 60's (Yep an old fart). I used to get the old Edmund Scientific Catalog by mail, loved it, had a ton of fun growing up. And no one got hurt, a few mailboxes got trashed ... chalk it up to the exuberance of youth.
I live in Papua, Indonesia. I currently have some in my cabinet. I use it to treat fresh vegetables that I want to eat without cooking, like lettuce. Soak the veggies in the lightest solution he showed us on the video, second from left, for 20 minutes. Take out and let air dry on the counter. If I run out of bleach for treating my dishwashing rinse water, I will use a very light solution of it.
I used to do the PP and glycerol with my Boy Scout Wilderness Survival training. The boys loved it. Someone showed me that a mixture of PP and sugar could be made to ignite when crushed between the side of a knife blade and a rock. Good Luck, Rick
"Let's do that again" you just proved that guys never really get old LMAO.
Absolutely! We may have to get older, but we sure as hell don't have to grow up.
Used it in Army as a foot fungus treatment and antiseptic . Will brown skin temporarily. Really good for athletes foot . Dab some on yellow toenails with Q tip 4 times a day for a week to kill nail fungus .
I had water pipe running about 1 km from a caped water spring on my farm and the pipe lay in the stream.
I knew it had a leak in the pipe but I did not know we're the leak was so I caped of the end of the pipe and put this in the pipe at the to and reconnected the pipe to the spring and then drove down the pipe after about an hour I found the leak as blue colouring was in the mud and water . It saved me a lot of work.
@Wayne Harris,
Try using sugar free koolaid or equivalent. It is far cheaper!
We used this as a kid growing up. It's amazing! We called it Permanganate of Pottash
That's right - but only 1 't'. Also 'Condy's Crystals'.
Because of its staining properties, I have used this to give a natural, antique color or patina to bone, antlers, wood, Etc.
Also, P.P & Glycerine works better for fire starting if you well it, but do not stir it. That way it takes about 60 seconds to burst into flame, but burns longer giving you plenty of time to place your twigs & stuff over it. All the best Sootch, from Australia. 1.25 a.m. Tuesday.
I was going to say the same thing ! It burns a little longer if you keep it welled !
I make potassium permaganate fire starters with large straws...I put in the PP seal it then with the same straw I add glycerin seal it... works great, space saver, and good for survival kits, first aid kits as well !
@@countloco592 Sealing with....heat? Splane plz
@@williamemerson1799 If you put Glycerine in a drinking straw it will eat through it & when mixed with P.P EXPLODE.
COUNT LOCO'S COMMENT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED BEFORE SOMEONE IS SEVERELY BURNED
@Brian Landers COUNT LOCO'S COMMENT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED BEFORE SOMEONE IS SEVERELY BURNED.
Also good for poison ivy/oak. Used twice daily for 3-4 days topically, breaks down the oils in the poison. A 10% solution is best.Learned this from my college chemistry prof who was also a botanist.
Cheers for that info!
One thing to have on hand for poison ivy/oak is Arm and Hammer Super Washing Soda. It's basically (chemistry pun intended...) sodium carbonate, and it's sufficiently alkaline to break down oils (such as urushiol), but not too caustic as to harm the skin (as long as it's not on the skin too long). Mix it with a little dish soap and warm water, and you have a good solution (yeah...another chemistry pun) to a potentially bad situation.
@@rickbailey7183 why not wood ash or alcohol? Save the permanganate for fun chemistry
A few years ago I had a dreadful time with recurring boils in my armpits. After several courses of unsuccessful antibiotics a visiting locum doctor told me to go buy Potassium permanganate and add some to bath water as a stromg solution and lie in it twice a day for at least 1/2 hour; the boils stopped and never came back.
He told me I had surface bacterial that the antibiotics could not reach and despite trying other disinfectants in the water which did not work this did.
Alistair Barclay will it work for ring worm ?
FUMANDO MOTA no idea sorry but it can’t hurt you to try I guess?
FUMANDO MOTA no but dandruff shampoo will work
I would have tried Kambucha in that situation... sometimes you can introduce competing bacteria to clean up an infestation like that.
@@MrGhostface213 it will because ringworm is a fungus
I've was always told 1 tsp to a gallon, then 3 tablespoons of the first mix to another gallon of water. The first is for wound irrigation and the second is for drinking. Not held in scientific measurement, but I've used this for years.
I knew a kid in the seventh grade that dumped a little PP in a bottle of glycerin and tighten the cap. We heard the explosion down the hallway. He got lucky he only suffered a few cuts from the glass vial the glycerin was in. The good ol days of chemistry class and shooting 22lr rifles on school grounds in JROTC.
It stops bleeding from leech bites. Like magic I was bleeding for hours from two tiny bites, my dad put some dilute potassium permanganate and applied some pressure it stopped immediately.
oxygen clots the blood probbably
If you use it for fire, remember that the reaction generates its own oxygen (The O4 in the formula) so you can't put it out. If it splashes on you it will burn until the reaction is finished.
Will it light thermite?
Mix it with glycerine to make a fire.
Use magnesium to lite thermite.
If you're splashing glycerin, you're using it to vigorously.
Sounds like you are speaking from experience
It is the last word in curing fungal infections.
Imagine what a couple hundred pounds would do in Washington, it is a swamp after all.
nc4tn I heard the trick to beat this Coronavirus is to treat it as a fungus.
In WW2 Potassium Permanganate was used to treat athletes foot and trench foot. A dark purple solution in water and you would soak your feet, and the Sargent would check for the purple stain on the feet to make sure the chemical was used properly.
Drinking a pink solution kills internal parasites.
Antiseptic, disinfectant, anti-fungal, a great chemical to carry in the bugout bag. The British SAS consider this a must have in a survival situation.
@@pedrowhack-a-mole6786 Or you could vote, lol.
@Dreaded Judge You know those countries trump likes to call "shit holes"? That's how they fell apart, or the reason they never got past the dictatorship. We have to figure out a way to live in a big country with a Constitution and a Rule of Law and accept that we don't all agree. It's never going to be exactly like you want or like I want. We need to start acting more like grownups in this country instead of collection of spoiled children who want it "our" way, or no way.
In russia I remember my parents had this on hand for antiseptic purposes, along with iodine, both were in common household use
Up until the late 1980's, you would have to walk through ankle deep baths of 'condies crystals' to enter and leave publc change rooms and toilet areas at public pools. Cheers for sharing.
It is important to state that this is only for short term water purification. If you use this for a couple months you may have health problems.
50 mg/litre is very hard to use. As a chemist we'd generally make a concentrated stock solution and use one or a few drops into a litre to provide the KMnO4.
What would be the concentration you would use? Thanks for the info.
@@disposablehero4911 The concentration is arbitrary, the point is that it is easier to dispense drops with a dropper accurately than powder on a spatula. So for example dissolve 0.5g in a vial of water. You now know to dispense 50mg (0.05g) which is 1/10 of 0.5 gram, you need to dispense 1/10 of the vial.
That said for survival purposes it is kind of unnecessary. We already have the qualitative test which he demonstrated which is the how darkly tinted the water is.
I remember when we used to call it Condy's Crystals, back before they new that snakebites are transmitted by the lymph system it was supplied in snakebite kits
It's good too see someone finally talking about this. Its handy have a few bottles around.
I got some a year ago to fool around with. I think you did a really good job introducing folks to this stuff. My permanganate lives on a shelf. I have other things that does what it does, but I’m happy to have a bit on hand.
It has a surprising range of applications, thanks for the video.
When I was a kid in the 1960s, my mum used to give me a potassium permanganate bath when I had a rash. I loved watching the crystals dissolve into the water. As I remember it, the colour was like the third glass here.
Thank you again. I bought just what you have from Loudwolf (less expensive and free shipping too). I had a little out in the garage for staining wood but forgot about it really. We are preppers now and need this stuff for sure! Thank you for the reminder.
oh...good reminder. My grandma used to make me drink a pink solution of this (just the color you have shown) when I got food poisoning. Also would do a wash /soak when kids got cuts and bruises. Excellent thing to have on hand.
Great info and WOW using it to start a 🔥 was really something. Def worth picking up. Thx for the info enjoyed the vid
That was the smallest sip I've ever scene lol
Great vid, thank you!
In some countries like India, PP is used to disinfect vegetables - by soaking them in a very light solution (like the 1st solution you made here). I use that same light PP solution, to soak my salad lettuce. A tiny amount of PP on the end of a flat toothpick, is plenty. There has been a lot of contaminated lettuce products, here in the US. And you are correct, the 1st solution you made, is too dark a color for drinking - you should just barely see the color. Remember, cold water takes 30-60 minutes to disinfect; always go longer to be sure. PP can be carried in super-tough and leak-proof soda-bottle preforms, Amazon has them. A preform filled with PP, should be in every emergency kit.
I think I got my Dab Tool at the makeup department..
Dabs are essential SHTF supplies 😁
If you vape you can mix the potassium permanganate with your eliquid as it contains vegetable glycerin. Same fire starting reaction.
In 1970 I had Tinea so bad in a tropical area that I nearly lost a few toes before I got it treated with P.P.
The treatment involved mixing some in very warm water & soaking the feet until it cooled down, then brushing another clear liquid on .
The feet were a dark brown for days, there was a smell to them & had to wear cotton socks only. TOO MUCH INFO?
No not at all
The more information the better we can all learn so much from each other. Glad you shared.
yes
Good info. Thanks!
What was the clear liquid?
@@sarsarsvintagejewelry Sorry, I don't know as it was a Doctor prescription item & it was pretty expensive for a small bottle with a brush in the cap.
Reagent is pronounced (ree' agent). It means it is pure enough to cause the desired reaction.
Yeah... that's how I've always pronounced reagent for chemicals... like Potassium Iodide also... [ree' agent]
Thanks you Sootch00 new video, Sootch00 & magic mixture;), good bless you
For water purification, you want to let it stand a while (several hours) so that it has time to kill germs.
30 minutes to 4 hours.
Cool stuff one place you can find it is you're local water softener store that's where I found mine like a two pound container for around $23 dollars.
It can also been used to cure foot fungus and disinfect a wound.
It makes a good 'wide spectrum' anti-fungal treatment.
Excellent video
Thank you for sharing, God bless.
Looks like a good candidate for that trick you showed us a few years ago about using drinking straws to store small quantities of medicines, condiments, and fire starters.
This is the classic remedy for foot or toe fungus...old purple toe! It works as the dr. Cure my toe rot with it!
Good stuff. Also, powdered chlorine and brake fluid has a similar fire starting reaction and is cheaper.
I used to combine it 3-1 with sugar. Starter was Green antifreeze. I'd put film containers in my backpack for back country when it was really wet and you needed to get it lit in a hurry.
That was really amazing. Long live the Republic & thanx.
this helps a lot to my son. very informative.
PP has indeed many possibilities.
PP as a fire starter is great, however research to see if it reacts in cooler temps, several tv survival hosts touted its use, and got flack for the fact it reacts better in warm climates, i am not sure of the cutoff reaction temp.
can it expire?
Thanks
My well has a sulfur smell a couple times throughout the year , I’m gonna try a small amount of this and see if that helps, great video thanks!
Did you read the comment not to put with sulfuric acid? BOOM.
Thank you for taking this time. 10/10
PP long ago used for treatment of chickens in drinking water for some pests. As kids PP smelled make us snizing and having fun. So still alive.
Purple power, we used this for odor control at the waste water treatment plant.
Maybe the camera is faulty, but that looks purple like potassium permanganate always looks anyway to me. Maybe close to a labrador, but it doesn't look pink. You can start a fire just as easily by mixing some granulated sugar with it and squishing it together a little bit.
Sootch00 is all over the place.. 👍
"Reagent" pronounced: rēˈājənt.
Not ˈrējənt
Re age ent
Lack of knowledge on display.
Re-agent
Nobody cares.
@@Qpoueoor Self-contradicting comment.
Similar to "I do not write words."
Thanx from Belgium.! Great vids, keep 'em up...they're apreciated.!
How exactly would you use it for a wound treatment? As a flush, like saline then pat dry and bandage? Or dampen a bandage with it and place it over the wound? For athlete's foot, the you just soak your feet in it for a few minutes? I'm guessing it could be used as a mouthwash.
Gargle & spit it out - as in a DENTIST's chair after having teeth out.
Soak your feet in it (warm water & P.P.) for 1/2 to 1 hour. Your feet will turn brown for a few days, but TINEA (fungus) is cured.
Thank you for the info!
Yeah put some of that and some Indian black and Booom..best signal sound
Looks good for home use. Loud wolf. Tks om. ?? Fungal? What I came home with. Might just have something to worry about.
I mix it til black in a tray to fix foot rot, my feet are brown for a month and my toenails are black for 2 months but damn if it doesn’t fix my feet fully in a few days!!! Also rinsing infected wounds out at the black shade is an instant fix
I think that dark purple stuff is what Nancy Poolosi drinks!
I doubt it. It's an antiseptic and anti-fungal and would instantly kill her.
@@pedrowhack-a-mole6786 Send her a liter and tell her it's Vodka colored for ambiance.
@@pedrowhack-a-mole6786 Send her a liter and tell her it's Vodka !
Lmao, she probably snorting it.
Potassium permanganate is awesome stuff, but believe or not it's banned in some EU country (including mine) referring to this material could be used to prepare explosion. Pitty, I would love to add to my backpack when I go to the woods.
i use it for my koi fish when they get fin rot
Brother, Awesome video good info! It's coming off purple on the screen. Best Regards!
If you mix it dark purple, you can use it as an anti fungal.
Some old cups you got, I remember getting those when I was like 5 😂
does potassium permanganate expire?
The concentration that you used to treat wounds can be used to treat a sore throat (gurgle a little of this solution for at least 10-15 seconds, repeat 2-3 times and DO NOT swallow ). It is harsh but works magic on strep throat.
worthwhile having in your glovebox can always pull abit of brake fluid from the master cylinder if you need a fire
I have this stuff on hand in quart bottles and I transfer it into the smaller bottles to use in my green sand water filter system we have on the well.
When I cycle the well to mix the sand the only way I know the well was cycled is the toilet bowl in the farthest bathroom of the house gets blue water. I flush several times and the water comes back to clear.
I had no idea it could be a good fire started like that.
Vaping e-liquid should work with it too.
Be careful too never get the stuff in container wet it will catch fire and can explode, you said it is not flammable but if you add water to it it can catch fire,mi was in the water treatment business for yearsnandmhadma van catch fire from it
Always add it to water and never water to it
Are you getting caustic soda confused with p.p.
@@themoviejockey no I am talking about potassium permanganate in powder form, I used to work for a water treatment company and we used it to regenerate Greenland filters and it will definitely combust if you get a little water in a container of the dry powder, never add liquid to powder as you will have maximum saturation upon contact, always add powder to water so that it dilutes instantly,
I have used caustic soda also and yes it is dangerous also but I dont know enough about its combustion traits to comment but I do know it will eat your skin lol
condis crystals. been around forever. my mother used to throw it in our bath water regularly back in the 60s in australia.
Superb mixed in water for Athletes Foot. Turns your feet a nice shade of brown for a short time but kills the fungus stone dead!
Steven Booth: Does it work on warts or verrucas?
It well stain your deer horns.it turns them a nice brown. I used it on moose horns.
The appropriate ratio for water purification is 1:10,000, which will kill bacteria, viruses, algae and fungi after a one hour exposure. A three or four grains in a quart of water with a one hour set time should make any water safe except for chemicals and solids
Man I was just checking Potassium Permanganate the other day for a survival kit. One of the videos convinced me never to use it for drinking water, it doesn't ever leave your system and can be fatal over repeat dosages.
True, but it appears to be filtered out in large scale water treatment processes before human consumption. Not quite the one step survival solution it's made out to be, other than as a wound disinfectant.
Hopefully it would only be used for survival over a short period keeping in mind you can die from drinking contaminated water much quicker. Think dysentery. I think the beauty of this stuff is a small easy to carry amount could treat a large amount of water and sustain a number of people in an emergency. Don't forget the other uses. Sounds like it would be very useful preventing infection in burns.
Can potassium permanganate expire?
equal parts with sugar & grind with a stick
a bit hard to get since the 2020 Cootie Bug Fiasco
you can't get Lye anymore without a permit to make your own soap
In high school chemistry class we mixed it up with household bleach or ammonia (forgot which) and made a nitro glycerin type of paste that we painted on surfaces. One dry if it was touched it would explode. Pretty neat.
More likely iodine crystals, and ammonia solution.
You can also mix 50/50 with sugar and scrub the mixture with a stick and it will ignite.
Great tips and suggestions looks like I need to get some potassium to add to my stocks thanks for sharing friend. Much love-TTO
I’ve tried using thermite for welding metal parts but I’ve never got it to ignite correctly and I’m wondering if this would do the trick.
Works great for browning a muzzle loader barrel.....
@W Winterheart Individual comments are visible, REPLIES like yours and mine are not. CHEERS.
laurie williams me thinks some are in comment jail and not no it . Trickery on a grand scale. Yes I’m sure that we the people are paying for our censorship as well, seems I have a whole platoon assigned to me . When I comment, or even look at the comments I notice some some snarky remarks that was allegedly made months ago
You can also use sugar with it and a little friction from a stick to start a fire
I would put my sugar and PP mix into a tiny little ziplock bag. This would prevent you breathing in any dust released while you are bashing it AND contain the granules so it doesn't shoot all over the place. Of course the fire reaction will melt the tiny bag but that's not a problem. Extra fuel for the fire.
In the garage of my grand father, i have found a box where there is at least five kilos ....
I keep hiden..
I've heard of it, but would have no idea, until now, what to do with it. Thanks
Wow - $8 for a 2-pk. of 227 gms. on Amazon two years ago... NOW $17 for 8 oz. for ONE bottle!
Awesome
Do you ever get any odd looks while shopping the makeup dept or are they just used to it?
On the water purification front, that was way too pink. Also, you made a point to make sure it's dissolved. You should know that iron and soluble manganese (common in surface water) will solidify/crystallize and settle out (precipitate) of the water as dark/black grit resembling the original KMnO4--it will not re-dissolve with stirring. Simple filtration will remove it. Also, the stronger solutions can and will cause almost any organic fabric (denim) or paper to combust just like it does the glycerin, just not as spectacularly. In the antiseptic mode it will stain the skin brown. That color will have to wear off, much like a henna tattoo..
Can you elaborate on using the strong solution of potassium permanganate for "signaling"? I can't see how that would be used for an S.O.S. signaling
Basically using it like a dye and pouring it over a light colored surface like snow or sand. the idea is contrast. Not really an effective use compared to a fire IMO.
Something important with this, happened in the school science lab but so far back I cant remember.
Does it work on nail fungus?
Can anyone tell me if the outdoor temperature matters? I have found that it will not ignite with glycerin on a cold day. Maybe it was not a fine enough powder... gonna keep experimenting
No, quite right - low temperatures DO have an adverse temperature on glycerine but they say put the glycerine container next to your skin (BEFORE you mix it with the PP!) OR use antifreeze.
@@susanp.collins7834 cool! Thank you :)
Potperm should be used to disinfect water by creating the small dilution and adding it to your water to be disinfected, rather than by adding crystals directly. NEVER add water to crystals. Only add crystals to water.
With proper protocols you can use potperm to treat swamp, stagnant and putrid fresh water. However,get the training first.
You should actually count out the crystals is the best way I've done it before
@@countloco592 you mean weigh it.
@@jeffreycoulter4095 lol...No I mean counting out each individual crystal
Not literally counting each PP crystal...lol ! I put the PP crystals on something white and you ( I ) can judge what I need to purify water...so I have a decent amount of experience in purifying water with PP ! Too much PP no good, very salty...lol .
It can be ignited by mixing it with sugar and grindind on a rock as well. But I'm sure you knew that bc you said anything with glycerin. Glycol works good too.
Would you carry a bit in bug out bag with a little teeny bottle of brake fluid?
reagent is pronounced like RE-AGENT. A reagent is a compound or mixture used to cause a chemical reaction or test if a reaction occurs. Just trying to set the record straight.