According to MB Blatt 223.2, you cannot use the 229.5 oil for any of the Diesel engines bc 229.5 is designed to be used for gas models. Freigabe 229.51 and 229.52 can both be used for the om642 or om651
Can you share what you are referencing? I'd love to take a look. I believe 229.5 is suggested in the owners manual of 2006 pre dpf drive trains. I do not believe the 229.51/52 existed back then but I could be wrong.
That’s interesting topic. If you could comment on that as you find out the answers. What is the difference between oil for gas engines sprinter and oil for diesel sprinter
@@justinw852 I use all brand engine oils..5/30..or 5/40 that are certified for both engines..(gas&diesel)..but cheaper oils..in a dieselengine deteriate much faster at about 4000miles..instead of 6000miles..if a oil is brownish on your dipstick.then its still good..when its darkblack then its done..🤔
Haha. This comment perfectly captures my ability to talk a lot and not explain much effectively. If your diesel sprinter is pre 2007 and u live in USA. Go to Walmart and get the Mobil1 European formula. Check the back to ensure it says mb229.5. It’s sold in 12 quarts for about 50 bucks and five quarts for half that. If your vehicle is made after 2007 and u live in US. Go to autozone and get Mobil 1 esp. check the back to ensure it says mb229.52 they sell in five quarts containers for about 32 bucks each. These are the cheapest options. If your van has emissions removed. Treat it like a pre 2007 regardless of the year.
@@sprinterfix ok great that answers half of my question what about the rating the European formula that I saw was called European Car formula 0w 40 and MB recommends 5W 30 CAN YOU CLARIFY THIS PLEASE, i HAVE A 2104 WITH EMISSIONS AND CATALITIC CONVERTER REMOVED Thansk you
Looking to do my first oil change on my 2023 sprinter OM654 diesel engine. From the research I'm doing, the recommended oil by MB is not even for diesel engines. I'm leaning towards 15w/40 Redline synthetic. It's API is CK-4 and ACEA is E9, but it's MB 228.31. Doesn't seem like the "approved" oils even fit these standards. Weird. Thinking MB doesn't put the right stuff in from the get go.
@@timc7787 MB recommends 229.52 spec for that engine, which is ACEA C3 that's used for diesel engines with DPF. Compared to A3/B4, C3 oils have less anti-wear and detergency additives, so less ash occurs if oil is burned, and ash is bad for DPF. They need to be changed more frequently because TBN number and additive package is lower.
Hello. We recently purchased a 2015 Adventurous TS (2014 Mercedes Sprinter 3500 Diesel chassis with automatic transmission) with 30k miles on a trip from Oregon to So. Cal and noticed driving when driving usually 65 mph+, it downshifted by itself to 4th gear. Sometimes, momentarily shifting into Neutral and back to Drive, would fix the issue. But a few times it lost the ability to accelerate and we had to pull over and idle or shut off the engine for 10-15 minutes, presumably to cool down the transmission. Then it would run normally. Also, when driving 55mph lower, we didn't see the problem. Have you seen this before? If so, any suggestions? Thanks in advance for your input.
I have not seen this issue before. With the information you are giving me I could only guess three things. Park neutral control switch. Bad transmission solenoid. Bad speed sensors. And maybe something going on with your paddle shifter system. I’m really not sure what I would tackle first though.
i got some oil for my sprinty i havnt put in yet the weathers too crap , its a 2004 311 cdi 2.2 there isnt much info on my van over here ! they were not sold in abundance in england ! I got some cheap Mb 229.5 , i think im ok with that 🙈
2006 dodge sprinter 2500 what oil would be best for that? its something european something something, no clue - 300,000 miles but its in the usa (arizona 100+ degrees ferenheight) drive 40+ miles in a day (20+miles morning , 20+ miles going back home) (edit) : like do i need a high mileage version of the MB 229.5 / MB 229.3 ? or does a regular version of those work
I've never had a problem with Mobil1 0-40. If you are doing other than getting groceries do shorter than 10k mile intervals. It even states this in the manual.
@@b25822 I like and use the mobil 1 0-40 mb229.50 in one of my sprinters and really like it. My dpf however does not like it. If you are 2006 or earlier in US model year please use just that.
I’m in the U.S. Virgin Islands and we have no emissions standards. They don’t even check. So for a 2019 Mercedes sprinter 2500 would the 229.5 be my best bet?
Я не знаю английского языка по этому пишу на том который знаю😉 у меня вопрос такой. У меня Мерседес w212 2009 года 220CDI но я удалил физически pdf и стёр с памяти pdf и EGR какое масло подойдёт лучше для этого мотора?
That's great to hear someone's opinion. However, where's the data supporting these "statements"? Better or worse?... 7 out of 10 Sprinters make 150 hp and we make it sounds as if full saps vs low saps make any difference on the film strength. .. Highly sus
I believe there are at least a few studies that show full saps provide less protection. it's been a while since I have made this video so I am not as well versed as I was. Perhaps projectfarm could "prove" this as he does lots of oil tests. Or perhaps showing that mb229.50 is the preferred oil for all new non-diesel merc vehicles says a whole lot, If the full saps was better, wouldn't they be running it in petrol engines? not sure if your arguement is that its better or that its not noticeably worse.
@@sprinterfix So it's actually the opposite The legend is : low saps are worse vs full saps The story goes from the idea of having higher TBN number therefore having higher percentage content of SApS. But in reality TBN is only an advantage when it comes to longer OCI and higher peak oil temps (petrol turbo engines and MB 229.5). In the diesel engine the peak temps never get that high therefore no need for the higher TBN properties,no much oil break down sludge either ( mostly black soot and fuel dilution) but the higher SApS levels are definitely detrimental to DPF's life. Not sure how scientific those project farms tests are comparing two 5w30 with different ccs viscosities and claiming that one flows better than the other ones hahah Either way 5K OCIs even with the . 52 oils wont hurt anything, it's the owners neglect that causes issues Film strength in a 150hp engine isn't as much of an issue. It's not a 600hp turbo and super charged 2 liter that runs at 450f temperature non stop
I’m not sure what u mean by measurement of oil quality. But usually these engines outlive the other components of the vehicle like the injectors and emissions system.
@@sprinterfix Sprinters, or at least my OM642, do not have oil pressure sensor. They have a sensor that measures temp, level and quality (using some sort of capacitors). I wonder if 229.5x oil has some additive that the sensor is measuring (quality, range from 1 to 6, 1 being good) and if I use non 229.5x oil, would sensor see deteriorating oil faster.
@@Kaulenehales added link in description, cheapest I found is autozone but oreillys is similar, be sure to check the back if u go in store to purchase.
I just spoke with MB and they recommend 5w 30 229.52 even though my dpf has been removed and the reason stated was because our diesel in North American is not as clean as in Europe. So their reasoning is that the detergent in 229.52 will assist in cleaning the dirty diesel fuel. I always ad Power ervice Diesel Kleen Cetane boost into my fuel tank at fill up.I have always been using MOTUL 8100 X-cess 5W 30 HOWEVER i did buy some MOBIL 1 European car formula 0W 40 and it does have the MB 229.5 RATING ON IT, i WAS WONDERING IF YOU SEE THIS CoMMENT IF YOU CAN LET ME KNOW IF ITS WORTH USING THIS OIL OR BETER TOP GO BACK TO 5W 30, I know you mentioned to discard these initial weight classifications but I live on Souther Vancouver Island and we get maybe 4 days of freezing cold weather otherwise its above 0 most of the time, so is 0W 40 TOO THIN FOR THIS REGION AND WILL IT DO ANY HARM TO MY DIESEL ENGINE, i currently have 313 300 km and change my oil. every 10,000 km not the 20k MB recommends, Thank you for this video it was very informative.
As an employee of BP and refinery industry for over 30 years I can guarantee you the diesel here in the states is the exact same diesel you can buy in Europe, minus the bio garbage they force us to use which meets all the same standards and is not "dirty". Straight run low sulfur diesel is as clear as triple filtered water.
So if using 229.52 for a new diesel sprinter would changing the oil more often be a good policy to get maximum engine protection? Do you think cutting the interval in half that of 229.5 would equal the protection of 229.5 or does it not work that way?
I am going to get some flack for this but I find modern Mercedes oil intervals to be far too long. In my humble opinion they help wear down the engine so that it breaks just outside of any warranty mileage. There is incentive to do this as well since annual cost of ownership is something every car owner will look at so keeping that number lower with less frequent oil changes is incentivized,. This is usually calculated over the first five years of the vehicle if I am not mistaken. anyways apologies for the essay but I am not even certain if they taken the difference in emissions standards (between US and EURO6) into account while calculating this. Like, if you have a clogged up dpf filter u are going to need to change oil more frequently, if u have a leaky egr u are going to get more carbon in your oil. Every minute you idle your engine does not account for miles driven, I know some customers who idle their engines for hours each day. I would be cautious about running my oil for 20,000 miles as an average driver, If u are doing long haul routes and covering 20,000 miles every few months then fine, thats probably ok to change every 20,000. Most users would likely benefit from an oil change every 10k or so based on use. Or once a year. (this post is largely opinion based) could you point me to the source for difference in intervals suggested based on oil spec? If wherever you are based has less emissions you can likely extend the interval. I am not sure how well these additives stand up to time but the overall consensus is they are not as good to begin with, so whether or not they break down faster I am unsure.
@@sprinterfix The source , unfortunately, is my own mind. Just thinking if they're favoring emissions over engine longevity with the oil spec then it would seem prudent to decrease interval. I also hate the idea of altering oil spec for the purpose of increasing fuel economy. That's like using cost of a product in the matrix to evaluate performance. I want to use what makes my equipment last the longest and perform at peak condition. Let me be the judge of what it costs me.
I say yes, don't go the long intervals that MB suggests. Do the oil changes yourself and do it more often. I just got a 2012 with OM642 and plan on doing it every 10K myself with the ESP Mobil 1 since I have a BlueTEC
Change oil 8k-10k miles. There is a video shows the test of changing oil for regular BMW driver at 5k at 8K and 10k. Ravenol oil which is best German oil. Loses its properties of lubricants at 10k. Its still can be driven to 15k. Ravenol states that it can lest for 50000kilometer which it does not, diesel car get dirtier. It’s best to change your oil your self at 10k and safe money that way. It will cost you around $160 to change your self or dealers at $300-400 for sprinter.
@@Igorvpol Agreed. I have been doning my own service since new. First oil change at 750 miles(I'm old school), then running a 7500mile(max) interval or twice a year minimum (Spring and Fall). An oil change runs me @$100.00 Mobil1 ESP 5w-30 and 30 min. of my time so 1hr and $200/year is dirt cheap insurance. I rotate tires while oil drains. I have oil analysis from new and all looks good with declining wear metals. I'll have 4 total analysis' on the Mobil1 ESP. then this Spring I'm going to try Motul xClean gen2 5w-40 for a few intervals and see what happens.
I'm running a VW TDi (03 Model Year) with 570000 miles on it, always run Mobil 1 TDT, 5W-40. I dropped the pan at 500,000 K to change the oil pump chain (because, you just do, you know -- despite VW saying it's a 1,000,000 mile part, and -- come on, who in the Hell puts a bicycle chain on and engine oil pumpl) and I would have been happy to eat dinner off the inside of that oil pan. I've just bought an '09 "Dodge" Sprinter (VIN with a Chermin World Manufacturer designation and "MERCEDES" as the manufacturer on the Cert Label). No idea when Previous Owner last changed oil. OK, the Mobil 1 TDT doesn't have the fancy "lace on it's underwear" MB229.52 additives but it just STOPS wear on a light-duty diesel engine and keeps everything clean. If it comes down to the DPF or my engine, I'll go for my engine any time. What will happen to my DPF if I run Mobil 1 5W-40 oil -- I've got a dozen quarts in my garage? I don't care - I'd rather save my engine! What's the real world difference??? Thanks, Mr, Bear NC USA
Well said, I am unfamiliar with tdt but yea the mb229.5 is just as cheap as any oil and can be bought by the 12 quart container. the 2007 to 2009 sprinters are my favorite, I have three of them currently haha.
I just reviewed your store and right there on the front page is the oil I bought today 0W 40 European car formula so I guess I am good to go, I was worried that it might be too thin for summer, if you agree perhaps you could let me know Thank you I subscribed and will follow you Thanks
All: keep in mind Diesel Brother were fined $986,000... it is a federal crime, and EPA has published enforcement memoranda to that effect. Watch what and who you are discussing such things.
Have a 11 2500 sprinter. Calls for the 229.51. Or 228.51 in the manual. BUT which oil should I buy. I’m leaning towards just getting the 5w30 esp. what kinda filter do you suggest too?? Thanks for the content really learned a lot from you videos !!
Yea. Everything between 07 to 2012 or so will say 229.51. But that’s only because they didn’t come out with 229.52 until around 2012. They developed it because the 229.51 wasn’t cutting it for the emissions system. That’s why I recommend just going with .52 if you are running stock emissions. Autozone and oreillys now carry 5qt containers of .52 esp. just confirm it on the back like I did in the video since there are other containers that say esp but aren’t spec. For oil filters. Mann is the brand u get from the dealership. Usually similar priced to generic if u buy online. I change mine out every oil change. I’ll sometimes go generic personally but maybe that’s not the absolute best idea.
@@sprinterfix sorry to put you on the spot lol but do you think the 0w-30 Mobil one esp is ok ? The 5qt is on sale for 35 bucks haha instead of the 5W 30 which is 14 bucks a quart
@@sprinterfix it has the specifications you listed in your video on the back and everything checks out. I just wasn’t sure if the old W 30 was OK compared to the 5W-30 which is much more expensive for some reason. Again, I apologize I’m new to all this. I’m not sure how many of this works. Thanks for all your help you’ve been a lifesaver.
Also I thought I added this in my comment but your egr cleaning video saved me big time. I’m on a road trip right now and was in a big pinch. Thanks so much for your content !!!!
Unfortunatly we are not blessed with all the european options for oil here in the united states but it is much less of an issue finding the right oil over there since diesels are so common, Here in the US they have very few diesels other then the large trucks
@sprinterfix oil and fuels are way cheaper in the USA..here a liter ok oil..Mobil 3000..w5-40....i payd..6$..so a oilchange cost me if do self..100$..🥵🥵
@ yea here is quite similar unfortunately. costs about 100 bucks for oil change on a sprinter. fuel here is still cheaper haha. except maybe california
According to MB Blatt 223.2, you cannot use the 229.5 oil for any of the Diesel engines bc 229.5 is designed to be used for gas models. Freigabe 229.51 and 229.52 can both be used for the om642 or om651
Can you share what you are referencing? I'd love to take a look. I believe 229.5 is suggested in the owners manual of 2006 pre dpf drive trains. I do not believe the 229.51/52 existed back then but I could be wrong.
That’s interesting topic.
If you could comment on that as you find out the answers.
What is the difference between oil for gas engines sprinter and oil for diesel sprinter
@@justinw852 I use all brand engine oils..5/30..or 5/40 that are certified for both engines..(gas&diesel)..but cheaper oils..in a dieselengine deteriate much faster at about 4000miles..instead of 6000miles..if a oil is brownish on your dipstick.then its still good..when its darkblack then its done..🤔
So I have a question, which oil is best for my sprinter?
Haha. This comment perfectly captures my ability to talk a lot and not explain much effectively. If your diesel sprinter is pre 2007 and u live in USA. Go to Walmart and get the Mobil1 European formula. Check the back to ensure it says mb229.5. It’s sold in 12 quarts for about 50 bucks and five quarts for half that. If your vehicle is made after 2007 and u live in US. Go to autozone and get Mobil 1 esp. check the back to ensure it says mb229.52 they sell in five quarts containers for about 32 bucks each. These are the cheapest options. If your van has emissions removed. Treat it like a pre 2007 regardless of the year.
@@sprinterfix ok great that answers half of my question what about the rating the European formula that I saw was called European Car formula 0w 40 and MB recommends 5W 30 CAN YOU CLARIFY THIS PLEASE, i HAVE A 2104 WITH EMISSIONS AND CATALITIC CONVERTER REMOVED Thansk you
Hmm. Does your manual suggest 5-30?
@@FBall-im8ui Does your manual specify 5w-30? or just mb229.52?
Thanks for the post and information!
15w40 CK-4 at 500k miles. No issues. All these DPF oils are garbage.
Yep. They certainly aren’t better for your engine. People equate the more expensive stuff to be better but that isn’t always the case
Looking to do my first oil change on my 2023 sprinter OM654 diesel engine. From the research I'm doing, the recommended oil by MB is not even for diesel engines. I'm leaning towards 15w/40 Redline synthetic. It's API is CK-4 and ACEA is E9, but it's MB 228.31. Doesn't seem like the "approved" oils even fit these standards. Weird. Thinking MB doesn't put the right stuff in from the get go.
What year sprinter and engine model #?
@@timc7787 MB recommends 229.52 spec for that engine, which is ACEA C3 that's used for diesel engines with DPF. Compared to A3/B4, C3 oils have less anti-wear and detergency additives, so less ash occurs if oil is burned, and ash is bad for DPF. They need to be changed more frequently because TBN number and additive package is lower.
So for any 2013 sprinters use 229.51?
Hello. We recently purchased a 2015 Adventurous TS (2014 Mercedes Sprinter 3500 Diesel chassis with automatic transmission) with 30k miles on a trip from Oregon to So. Cal and noticed driving when driving usually 65 mph+, it downshifted by itself to 4th gear. Sometimes, momentarily shifting into Neutral and back to Drive, would fix the issue. But a few times it lost the ability to accelerate and we had to pull over and idle or shut off the engine for 10-15 minutes, presumably to cool down the transmission. Then it would run normally. Also, when driving 55mph lower, we didn't see the problem. Have you seen this before? If so, any suggestions? Thanks in advance for your input.
go to the forum "sprinter-source" and ask your question.
I have not seen this issue before. With the information you are giving me I could only guess three things. Park neutral control switch. Bad transmission solenoid. Bad speed sensors. And maybe something going on with your paddle shifter system. I’m really not sure what I would tackle first though.
i got some oil for my sprinty i havnt put in yet the weathers too crap , its a 2004 311 cdi 2.2 there isnt much info on my van over here ! they were not sold in abundance in england ! I got some cheap Mb 229.5 , i think im ok with that 🙈
Yep. Sounds like you would be. I doubt there is any emissions on that one other then a diesel cat
2006 dodge sprinter 2500 what oil would be best for that? its something european something something, no clue - 300,000 miles but its in the usa (arizona 100+ degrees ferenheight) drive 40+ miles in a day (20+miles morning , 20+ miles going back home)
(edit) :
like do i need a high mileage version of the MB 229.5 / MB 229.3 ? or does a regular version of those work
I would just put the mobil 1 european formula. you can get 12qt at walmart for 60 bucks
I've never had a problem with Mobil1 0-40. If you are doing other than getting groceries do shorter than 10k mile intervals. It even states this in the manual.
@@b25822 I like and use the mobil 1 0-40 mb229.50 in one of my sprinters and really like it. My dpf however does not like it. If you are 2006 or earlier in US model year please use just that.
I’m in the U.S. Virgin Islands and we have no emissions standards. They don’t even check. So for a 2019 Mercedes sprinter 2500 would the 229.5 be my best bet?
Not if u still have a dpf filter. Just because there are no standards doesn’t mean they’re imported without emissions on them.
Я не знаю английского языка по этому пишу на том который знаю😉 у меня вопрос такой. У меня Мерседес w212 2009 года 220CDI но я удалил физически pdf и стёр с памяти pdf и EGR какое масло подойдёт лучше для этого мотора?
a3/b4 5w30/5w40, лучше подороже
That's great to hear someone's opinion. However, where's the data supporting these "statements"? Better or worse?... 7 out of 10 Sprinters make 150 hp and we make it sounds as if full saps vs low saps make any difference on the film strength.
.. Highly sus
I believe there are at least a few studies that show full saps provide less protection. it's been a while since I have made this video so I am not as well versed as I was. Perhaps projectfarm could "prove" this as he does lots of oil tests. Or perhaps showing that mb229.50 is the preferred oil for all new non-diesel merc vehicles says a whole lot, If the full saps was better, wouldn't they be running it in petrol engines? not sure if your arguement is that its better or that its not noticeably worse.
@@sprinterfix
So it's actually the opposite
The legend is : low saps are worse vs full saps
The story goes from the idea of having higher TBN number therefore having higher percentage content of SApS. But in reality TBN is only an advantage when it comes to longer OCI and higher peak oil temps (petrol turbo engines and MB 229.5). In the diesel engine the peak temps never get that high therefore no need for the higher TBN properties,no much oil break down sludge either ( mostly black soot and fuel dilution) but the higher SApS levels are definitely detrimental to DPF's life.
Not sure how scientific those project farms tests are comparing two 5w30 with different ccs viscosities and claiming that one flows better than the other ones hahah
Either way 5K OCIs even with the . 52 oils wont hurt anything, it's the owners neglect that causes issues
Film strength in a 150hp engine isn't as much of an issue. It's not a 600hp turbo and super charged 2 liter that runs at 450f temperature non stop
Thanks for the info
I have a 2007 V6 2500 freightliner diesel with turbo. Could you tell me what oil to use. Thanks
Just use the Mobil1 esp with 229.52 if u are uncertain. It is the safest. U can find at autozone
@@sprinterfix I went to the Mercedes dealer and they game me 5w30 229.52
It shows in the system
@@noalbloqueogenocida7629 thats fine, a little more costly but still fine, next oil change just save money with mobil1, same thing
@@sprinterfix do you know anything about the doors locking system
@@noalbloqueogenocida7629 certainly do, whats the issue?
Wondering if I use wrong oil, will the measurement of the oil quality be affected (on my Sprinter OM642 engine)?
I’m not sure what u mean by measurement of oil quality. But usually these engines outlive the other components of the vehicle like the injectors and emissions system.
@@sprinterfix Sprinters, or at least my OM642, do not have oil pressure sensor. They have a sensor that measures temp, level and quality (using some sort of capacitors). I wonder if 229.5x oil has some additive that the sensor is measuring (quality, range from 1 to 6, 1 being good) and if I use non 229.5x oil, would sensor see deteriorating oil faster.
4:59pm so I have a Mercedes sprinter van and I am confused trying to figure out which is the best oil for it a picture of it would be good thanks
Sure. What year is it? Are u in the USA? I can add some links below
@@sprinterfix yes I am in the USA and it’s a 2014
And thank you
@@Kaulenehales added link in description, cheapest I found is autozone but oreillys is similar, be sure to check the back if u go in store to purchase.
I just spoke with MB and they recommend 5w 30 229.52 even though my dpf has been removed and the reason stated was because our diesel in North American is not as clean as in Europe. So their reasoning is that the detergent in 229.52 will assist in cleaning the dirty diesel fuel. I always ad Power ervice Diesel Kleen Cetane boost into my fuel tank at fill up.I have always been using MOTUL 8100 X-cess 5W 30 HOWEVER i did buy some MOBIL 1 European car formula 0W 40 and it does have the MB 229.5 RATING ON IT, i WAS WONDERING IF YOU SEE THIS CoMMENT IF YOU CAN LET ME KNOW IF ITS WORTH USING THIS OIL OR BETER TOP GO BACK TO 5W 30, I know you mentioned to discard these initial weight classifications but I live on Souther Vancouver Island and we get maybe 4 days of freezing cold weather otherwise its above 0 most of the time, so is 0W 40 TOO THIN FOR THIS REGION AND WILL IT DO ANY HARM TO MY DIESEL ENGINE, i currently have 313 300 km and change my oil. every 10,000 km not the 20k MB recommends, Thank you for this video it was very informative.
well the "dirty" diesel isn' really what causes the carbon build though is it? I'd still go with 229.5 in your scenario
As an employee of BP and refinery industry for over 30 years I can guarantee you the diesel here in the states is the exact same diesel you can buy in Europe, minus the bio garbage they force us to use which meets all the same standards and is not "dirty". Straight run low sulfur diesel is as clear as triple filtered water.
So if using 229.52 for a new diesel sprinter would changing the oil more often be a good policy to get maximum engine protection? Do you think cutting the interval in half that of 229.5 would equal the protection of 229.5 or does it not work that way?
I am going to get some flack for this but I find modern Mercedes oil intervals to be far too long. In my humble opinion they help wear down the engine so that it breaks just outside of any warranty mileage. There is incentive to do this as well since annual cost of ownership is something every car owner will look at so keeping that number lower with less frequent oil changes is incentivized,. This is usually calculated over the first five years of the vehicle if I am not mistaken. anyways apologies for the essay but I am not even certain if they taken the difference in emissions standards (between US and EURO6) into account while calculating this. Like, if you have a clogged up dpf filter u are going to need to change oil more frequently, if u have a leaky egr u are going to get more carbon in your oil. Every minute you idle your engine does not account for miles driven, I know some customers who idle their engines for hours each day. I would be cautious about running my oil for 20,000 miles as an average driver, If u are doing long haul routes and covering 20,000 miles every few months then fine, thats probably ok to change every 20,000. Most users would likely benefit from an oil change every 10k or so based on use. Or once a year. (this post is largely opinion based) could you point me to the source for difference in intervals suggested based on oil spec? If wherever you are based has less emissions you can likely extend the interval. I am not sure how well these additives stand up to time but the overall consensus is they are not as good to begin with, so whether or not they break down faster I am unsure.
@@sprinterfix The source , unfortunately, is my own mind. Just thinking if they're favoring emissions over engine longevity with the oil spec then it would seem prudent to decrease interval. I also hate the idea of altering oil spec for the purpose of increasing fuel economy. That's like using cost of a product in the matrix to evaluate performance. I want to use what makes my equipment last the longest and perform at peak condition. Let me be the judge of what it costs me.
I say yes, don't go the long intervals that MB suggests. Do the oil changes yourself and do it more often. I just got a 2012 with OM642 and plan on doing it every 10K myself with the ESP Mobil 1 since I have a BlueTEC
Change oil 8k-10k miles. There is a video shows the test of changing oil for regular BMW driver at 5k at 8K and 10k. Ravenol oil which is best German oil. Loses its properties of lubricants at 10k. Its still can be driven to 15k. Ravenol states that it can lest for 50000kilometer which it does not, diesel car get dirtier. It’s best to change your oil your self at 10k and safe money that way. It will cost you around $160 to change your self or dealers at $300-400 for sprinter.
@@Igorvpol Agreed. I have been doning my own service since new. First oil change at 750 miles(I'm old school), then running a 7500mile(max) interval or twice a year minimum (Spring and Fall). An oil change runs me @$100.00 Mobil1 ESP 5w-30 and 30 min. of my time so 1hr and $200/year is dirt cheap insurance. I rotate tires while oil drains. I have oil analysis from new and all looks good with declining wear metals. I'll have 4 total analysis' on the Mobil1 ESP. then this Spring I'm going to try Motul xClean gen2 5w-40 for a few intervals and see what happens.
Let’s should have an apostrophe. It’s a contraction of let and us, so it needs the apostrophe.
Damn! You are absolutely correct. I’m going to need you to prod read my thumbnail text from now on haha
I'm running a VW TDi (03 Model Year) with 570000 miles on it, always run Mobil 1 TDT, 5W-40. I dropped the pan at 500,000 K to change the oil pump chain (because, you just do, you know -- despite VW saying it's a 1,000,000 mile part, and -- come on, who in the Hell puts a bicycle chain on and engine oil pumpl) and I would have been happy to eat dinner off the inside of that oil pan.
I've just bought an '09 "Dodge" Sprinter (VIN with a Chermin World Manufacturer designation and "MERCEDES" as the manufacturer on the Cert Label). No idea when Previous Owner last changed oil.
OK, the Mobil 1 TDT doesn't have the fancy "lace on it's underwear" MB229.52 additives but it just STOPS wear on a light-duty diesel engine and keeps everything clean. If it comes down to the DPF or my engine, I'll go for my engine any time.
What will happen to my DPF if I run Mobil 1 5W-40 oil -- I've got a dozen quarts in my garage? I don't care - I'd rather save my engine! What's the real world difference???
Thanks, Mr, Bear NC USA
Well said, I am unfamiliar with tdt but yea the mb229.5 is just as cheap as any oil and can be bought by the 12 quart container. the 2007 to 2009 sprinters are my favorite, I have three of them currently haha.
Thank you so much. Karma points for you.
I am fairly sure you are my number one subsriber
I just reviewed your store and right there on the front page is the oil I bought today 0W 40 European car formula so I guess I am good to go, I was worried that it might be too thin for summer, if you agree perhaps you could let me know Thank you I subscribed and will follow you Thanks
Yea, that stuff is good.
how can I remove all the emissions crap on my brand-new MB 3.0 diesel farm van?
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All: keep in mind Diesel Brother were fined $986,000... it is a federal crime, and EPA has published enforcement memoranda to that effect. Watch what and who you are discussing such things.
Have a 11 2500 sprinter. Calls for the 229.51. Or 228.51 in the manual. BUT which oil should I buy. I’m leaning towards just getting the 5w30 esp. what kinda filter do you suggest too??
Thanks for the content really learned a lot from you videos !!
Yea. Everything between 07 to 2012 or so will say 229.51. But that’s only because they didn’t come out with 229.52 until around 2012. They developed it because the 229.51 wasn’t cutting it for the emissions system. That’s why I recommend just going with .52 if you are running stock emissions. Autozone and oreillys now carry 5qt containers of .52 esp. just confirm it on the back like I did in the video since there are other containers that say esp but aren’t spec. For oil filters. Mann is the brand u get from the dealership. Usually similar priced to generic if u buy online. I change mine out every oil change. I’ll sometimes go generic personally but maybe that’s not the absolute best idea.
@@sprinterfix sorry to put you on the spot lol but do you think the 0w-30 Mobil one esp is ok ? The 5qt is on sale for 35 bucks haha instead of the 5W 30 which is 14 bucks a quart
@@sprinterfix it has the specifications you listed in your video on the back and everything checks out. I just wasn’t sure if the old W 30 was OK compared to the 5W-30 which is much more expensive for some reason. Again, I apologize I’m new to all this. I’m not sure how many of this works. Thanks for all your help you’ve been a lifesaver.
Also I thought I added this in my comment but your egr cleaning video saved me big time. I’m on a road trip right now and was in a big pinch. Thanks so much for your content !!!!
Yea. If it has 229.52 on the back then u are good
I use on my 2014 Sprinter with 267k miles no def
a thicker oil. Shell.rottela(..romula in europe)thats a good diesel truck oil..🫡
Unfortunatly we are not blessed with all the european options for oil here in the united states but it is much less of an issue finding the right oil over there since diesels are so common, Here in the US they have very few diesels other then the large trucks
@sprinterfix oil and fuels are way cheaper in the USA..here a liter ok oil..Mobil 3000..w5-40....i payd..6$..so a oilchange cost me if do self..100$..🥵🥵
@sprinterfix If you buy a good brand like mobil oil..you got to go..normal oil..i swap every 4k miles..full syntetic every..6k miles..
@@ricksworlddereaux2397 that sounds like a good interval.
@ yea here is quite similar unfortunately. costs about 100 bucks for oil change on a sprinter. fuel here is still cheaper haha. except maybe california