animals do not deserve to be viewed as resources and as slaves. they don't deserve to be objectified and used by us. they deserve to live life on their own terms. they are not ours🌱💚
@@veganpowerlab you did so well💚!! many of them try and take the focus off the victims. this is because, deep down, they know exploiting animals is wrong.
Sad to see such a big strong well spoken man that is powerful to see himself so weak. If he is reading this, you are more powerful than you believe. Thank you Cip!!!
Gold stuff cip, well done! I liked that line about governments not doing what is right, only what is popular. This guy is doing a lot of equivocations between the violating the rights of individuals and doing general harm to the planet, because that makes his appeal to futility easier, and also there is no specific victim to trade places with if your concern is “the planet.” Great job keeping him on track.
Yeah. He did seem to be concerned more about “the environment” than the exploitation of animals. He understood that it’s bad, but I don’t think he grasped just how bad it is. Probably should’ve done the whole dairy industry questioning on him
What can i say , your outreach is always so good , patience is a virtue which you have , it's a great way to prevent people from being defensive , especially when being confronted by annoying people . Lets hope this guy sees the way forward and becomes vegan . Your work is admirable .
Sometims I feel like kicking and screaming when the lives of other beings'are discussed. I wish the killings would end. I wish all those animals wouldn't have to endure so many horrible things. I wish that people would stop justifying the horrors. You're doing great work, Cip!
He said he would be vegan when it becomes the standard. Fortunately for him and everyone else, there are enough vegans in the world to make it easy and convenient for others to be vegan as well. If all the animal products were removed from grocery stores, the remaining products would be enough for the grocery store to still be a grocery store, function effectively, and have everything available for people to need to shop. If this guy wants more vegan options, he can be vegan and start demanding more vegan options.
Hello , You can only plant the seed Chip …the rest is up to them . Conditioning is so , so powerful and it’s like an addiction! …considering that approximately 95 per cent of the human population are conditioned to eat animals / bi products , it’s only through individual change that we will get generational change . It’s a shame that in the meantime even as I write this , millions of animals are suffering, killed , consumed and there final resting place is to be flushed down the toilet. 💔 🌱 Take care
Maybe add one more question before the last one: “If you found out you were oppressing others, would you have the will-power to change, even if it was difficult, or would you find an excuse to not change?” Also, I love your outreach. I feel like your logical responses and demeanor are spot on. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for adding in the bits with extra research and linking sources in the description. I'm always looking for new info and research to add to my anti-carnist arsenal. It definitely helps to keep anybody watching from falling for carnist talking points that may sound compelling on the surface.
Argh! So frustrating. This guy and the Colombian woman in your last video both know that they are supporting something they disagree with and yet they are unwilling to change. How can people live like that?!? Thank you Cip for defending the innocent and helpless, and for challenging their silly excuses. 🌱💚
Wow - another one who insists that oppression is wrong - until it comes down to him taking responsibility for ending it - then it's "the government's responsibility". All the twisting and turning to justify doing something that admittedly is beyond horrific and needless.....
@@veganpowerlab On Gary Yourofsky's HP you can see how many animals and which ones get killed every second. The matter is, exactly as you say, Cip, very urgent indeed
I think you should record the first part of the conversation, and show it every time they come up with an excuse.because they do immediately forget what they have just said.
Perfect outreach Chip! I love how you are being more direct and also bringing it back to the intial questions more. I know it's a lot to keep track of especially dealing with the completely apathetic. This type of pathetic apathy is rampant among humans. Personally I think without shaming child molesters our society would be abundant with them. Humans are grotesque. However, we are capable of evolving and being genuine too. Keep up the awesome work! Also, try instead of using dog examples use human examples, it's always more direct and they are generally regarded as valuable as they are human too.
I think that with human examples people have difficulty understanding. With dogs, most people get it quickly. There’s no difference between dogs and any of the animals we farm
I visited more than 26 countries in the world (lost count of how many cities). I would say that Berlin and London are the easiest ones to be vegan. And when I say easy, it is REALLY easy.
I would find it embarrassing to admit that I am a laggard, but at least he is being intellectually honest. Perhaps it would have been good to give him a more gradual path to veganism. You could ask him to go and try some vegan food while in Amsterdam.
I don't think vegans are focused on tangible outcomes. I think vegans are focused on feeling morally superior. The message is "if you even pay for one animal product or byproduct you are a failure." Telling people "anything other than perfection is failure" is an optimal way to NOT get them to make an effort. If your goal truly was reducing animal suffering, you'd be testing out and trying ways to get a lot of people to make gradual, easy changes to their diets. Question for vegans: if eating a steak or a pizza or any non-vegan food would for some hypothetical reason cause 10 people to swap out a non-vegan food for a vegan food, would you eat it?
Veganism is not about animal suffering. It’s about not seeing them as resources and not exploiting them for optional products. How are you doing that when you’re forcing them into slaughterhouses once a week for optional products?
@@martinkevin4827 If veganism has nothing to do with diet, why are there countless videos made by vegans about diet? There's obviously some connection between veganism and diet, otherwise vegans would not talk about ways to have vegan diets. I shouldn't even be entertaining your statement. Please address the point I'm making.
animals do not deserve to be viewed as resources and as slaves. they don't deserve to be objectified and used by us. they deserve to live life on their own terms. they are not ours🌱💚
@@animalsareherewithusnotforus 👍👍
💯 Ally. It’s ridiculous that people refuse to accept that
@@martinkevin4827 💚hey Martin!
@@veganpowerlab you did so well💚!! many of them try and take the focus off the victims. this is because, deep down, they know exploiting animals is wrong.
We have alternatives. Veganism is the compassionate choice. Nice job Cip! 🙏🌱💯💚
So many alternatives 🙏🤗💚 thank you, Donna
It’s too bad there are so many people who won’t do what they agree is right, for such lame excuses
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Lucie Munson going live now
Sad to see such a big strong well spoken man that is powerful to see himself so weak. If he is reading this, you are more powerful than you believe. Thank you Cip!!!
Gold stuff cip, well done! I liked that line about governments not doing what is right, only what is popular. This guy is doing a lot of equivocations between the violating the rights of individuals and doing general harm to the planet, because that makes his appeal to futility easier, and also there is no specific victim to trade places with if your concern is “the planet.” Great job keeping him on track.
Yeah. He did seem to be concerned more about “the environment” than the exploitation of animals. He understood that it’s bad, but I don’t think he grasped just how bad it is. Probably should’ve done the whole dairy industry questioning on him
What can i say , your outreach is always so good , patience is a virtue which you have , it's a great way to prevent people from being defensive , especially when being confronted by annoying people . Lets hope this guy sees the way forward and becomes vegan . Your work is admirable .
Martin, thank you so much 🙏🤗💚 i tried to be as direct as I could. Feels like he understood the urgency
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@martinkevin4827 Lucie Munson going live now
Awesome interview Cip! 🌱
Thank you so much, Haz 💚🤗💚 you legend
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@HazVegan Lucie Munson going live now
Sometims I feel like kicking and screaming when the lives of other beings'are discussed.
I wish the killings would end.
I wish all those animals wouldn't have to endure so many horrible things.
I wish that people would stop justifying the horrors.
You're doing great work, Cip!
Thank you so much. I totally know how you feel like. It sucks that people don’t give up this mentality that animals are ours to use
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The irony of him wearing a shirt saying "animal" while he's justifying to oppress other animals
Yeah, that is quite ironic. You clearly have an eye for detail
He said he would be vegan when it becomes the standard. Fortunately for him and everyone else, there are enough vegans in the world to make it easy and convenient for others to be vegan as well. If all the animal products were removed from grocery stores, the remaining products would be enough for the grocery store to still be a grocery store, function effectively, and have everything available for people to need to shop. If this guy wants more vegan options, he can be vegan and start demanding more vegan options.
Hello ,
You can only plant the seed Chip …the rest is up to them . Conditioning is so , so powerful and it’s like an addiction! …considering that approximately 95 per cent of the human population are conditioned to eat animals / bi products , it’s only through individual change that we will get generational change . It’s a shame that in the meantime even as I write this , millions of animals are suffering, killed , consumed and there final resting place is to be flushed down the toilet. 💔
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Take care
Hey Jimmy! I think people will change. But, as you say: all we can do is plant seeds and show the way. They have to walk the path. 🤗💚
What a great way to try and open their minds and see another perspective on the oppression of animals!!! Love what you're doing 💚
Thank you! 🙏🤗 some people get it and some people just find more excuses
Maybe add one more question before the last one: “If you found out you were oppressing others, would you have the will-power to change, even if it was difficult, or would you find an excuse to not change?” Also, I love your outreach. I feel like your logical responses and demeanor are spot on. Keep up the great work!
This would be a good one to use opus clip on then link this long form video to the short so people can watch the full conversation.
Which part of it?
@@veganpowerlabopus uses ai to find the most viral parts. As I understand it.
I didn’t know about this software. Interesting. I’ll give it a try. Thank you so much
@@veganpowerlab I think Sky uses it too
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Thanks for adding in the bits with extra research and linking sources in the description. I'm always looking for new info and research to add to my anti-carnist arsenal. It definitely helps to keep anybody watching from falling for carnist talking points that may sound compelling on the surface.
Happy that you like the sources. I’ll post the actual images today (with the studies)
Argh! So frustrating. This guy and the Colombian woman in your last video both know that they are supporting something they disagree with and yet they are unwilling to change. How can people live like that?!?
Thank you Cip for defending the innocent and helpless, and for challenging their silly excuses.
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Wow - another one who insists that oppression is wrong - until it comes down to him taking responsibility for ending it - then it's "the government's responsibility". All the twisting and turning to justify doing something that admittedly is beyond horrific and needless.....
I think he admitted that it’s horrible. Just, somehow he didn’t get just how bad and how urgent it is
@@veganpowerlab
On Gary Yourofsky's HP you can see how many animals and which ones get killed every second.
The matter is, exactly as you say, Cip, very urgent indeed
Well done, Cip.
Question: as someone who is not good with technology, to film outreach do you need a normal microphone or some other form? Thanks, Cip
I have a wireless microphone- connects wireessly to the camera. I think that that’s what you need so that you can “move around”
@@veganpowerlab thank you
Great job 💚
Thank you. I hope he watches Gary’s speech. 💚
I think you should record the first part of the conversation, and show it every time they come up with an excuse.because they do immediately forget what they have just said.
Perfect outreach Chip! I love how you are being more direct and also bringing it back to the intial questions more. I know it's a lot to keep track of especially dealing with the completely apathetic. This type of pathetic apathy is rampant among humans. Personally I think without shaming child molesters our society would be abundant with them. Humans are grotesque. However, we are capable of evolving and being genuine too. Keep up the awesome work! Also, try instead of using dog examples use human examples, it's always more direct and they are generally regarded as valuable as they are human too.
I think that with human examples people have difficulty understanding. With dogs, most people get it quickly. There’s no difference between dogs and any of the animals we farm
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Btw Cip, I love the quotes you start your videos with! 💚🌱❤
“I see myself doing x if more people do it”
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Great Video!
Glad you enjoyed it 🤗
Too much dogging😞
Loving your work Cip 💗💗💗💗
I too ❤🎉❤
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I visited more than 26 countries in the world (lost count of how many cities). I would say that Berlin and London are the easiest ones to be vegan. And when I say easy, it is REALLY easy.
‘Difficult to be the pioneers of change’’ on the 80th Anniversary of the Vegan Society (1944), ffs! 🌻🌎✊🏽
I would find it embarrassing to admit that I am a laggard, but at least he is being intellectually honest. Perhaps it would have been good to give him a more gradual path to veganism. You could ask him to go and try some vegan food while in Amsterdam.
I don't think vegans are focused on tangible outcomes. I think vegans are focused on feeling morally superior. The message is "if you even pay for one animal product or byproduct you are a failure." Telling people "anything other than perfection is failure" is an optimal way to NOT get them to make an effort. If your goal truly was reducing animal suffering, you'd be testing out and trying ways to get a lot of people to make gradual, easy changes to their diets. Question for vegans: if eating a steak or a pizza or any non-vegan food would for some hypothetical reason cause 10 people to swap out a non-vegan food for a vegan food, would you eat it?
@@wiggles7976 your hypothetical is irrelevant as veganism has nothing to do with diet .
Veganism is not about animal suffering. It’s about not seeing them as resources and not exploiting them for optional products. How are you doing that when you’re forcing them into slaughterhouses once a week for optional products?
@@martinkevin4827 If veganism has nothing to do with diet, why are there countless videos made by vegans about diet? There's obviously some connection between veganism and diet, otherwise vegans would not talk about ways to have vegan diets. I shouldn't even be entertaining your statement. Please address the point I'm making.
@@veganpowerlab You didn't answer my question.
why are you STILL not vegan, Wiggles?
It's easy to change once you realize how urgently the animals need us🙏❤️🐮🐷🐔🐇🐟🐝🫂💚💚💚
Great work Cip😊🙏🌱🐥🐥🐥
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PIaqueForms eating animals. Herbivores/Plant-base/vegans don’t have this ✅♥️⭕️💪😬🦍🦧🐵🐒👱🏼♂️👩🏽🤙
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Vegans are better. Superior ✅♥️😎🤗🐣🐥🐔🐮🐷🐙🐠🐡….. 👍. Next please ✅🙋🏼♂️
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