I am a pete 379/389 guy and I am looking to buy my first truck, after driving mack trucks with eaton fuller (18s) I have to say I fell in love with it, the looks, the ride, the dash and now I am experiencing a change of heart. Absolutely stunning truck.
I had a 2015 Pinnacle with the auto,, hated it! But it looks like they made some changes , like the quick downshift. I found it took forever to downshift on it's own so I would push the buttons on mjne. but the seats look nice, I drove CH for quite a few tears they were always good trucks, the Pinnacle is just a CH with a new name.
We have Mack Anthems with the mDrive and MP8 engines, and them things are power houses! I myself like a manual stick, but I’ll give credit where it’s due, and the mDrive works rather well compared to other automated manual transmissions.
I've been pulling flatbed, hauling sod in a 2022 Mack Pinnacle PI64T with 505 HP MP8 and mDrive for about 18 months. Sod farm owner asked me "if money was no object, what truck would I buy?" I've driven just about every make and I told him a Mack. I'm 72 and it's the best I've driven compared to everything from Autocar through Peterbilts. In another 20 years you'll appreciate the option of an automated transmission and the quietness!
I really enjoy seeing the trucks from that area. The drivers/owners really dress them up with pin stripes and super chrome and stainless. Just don't see much of that anymore. Those guys doing the pin striping are incredible.
@@toddreynolds8875 - The Mack M8 engine is nothing more than a Volvo D13 painted red with slightly different ecm programming. Same as the M-drive, nothing but an I-shift.
Volkswagen owns NAVISTAR International trucks now have Volkswagen diesel engines from their MAN Trucks subsidiary (A26 diesel engine) and MAN Trucks diesel engines (Maxxforce Advanced EGR diesel fiasco) Daimler (Mercedes Benz) owns Freightliner Trucks, Western-Star Trucks, Thomas Built Buses and Detroit Diesel...All them powered by Mercedes Benz diesel engines badged as "Detroit Diesel", except for light duty models and school buses using diesel engines from Cummins. Paccar PX diesel engines are rebadged Cummins diesel engines and their MX engine series is from European DAF Trucks....yet no-one bitches about those, just about MACK and VOLVO doing trucks together.....
Dad and I almost bought a new Mack triaxle. It was setup the same. I thought it was a really nice truck but decided not to because we didn’t want a payment. I like my loud, rattling, black smoke blowing 99 Ch 600. Paid 10 grand for it 2 years ago and she’s rolls out every day. Thanks for the “tutorial “. Lol.
Nice, glad to see a new MACK in the barn, I had a new CH back in 2006 long hood pulling for Quick Crete & it was pleasure. My last truck was a 2015 Pinnacle set back axle.
Hate the auto,, My 2015 sucked , my 2006 had a 10 speed & it was fine, I like down shifting to slow down the truck especially in snow. But the MACK is a nice truck,, went in my friends Anthem last week, that;s nice also
I've been driving a 2018 Pinnacle with the M Drive, that's just how they run. It takes some getting used to, but let it do its thing and it'll get you where you need to go
New always looks nice but ,no thanks. I want a truck to do what I tell it to . I don't want it to shut off because it idled too long. I don't want it to decide when to shift or not to shift. I don't want it to apply brakes because it was programmed to be "safer". I don't want DEF , down around 13°F that garbage turns into blue slushy. I don't want to be anti progress but is all the high tech nonsense on trucks gaining anything besides higher repair bills and more breakdowns because of all the useless integrated systems?
I look at all this regulation crap now just on the emission side of things and I don't think I'm going to even try and get into this industry now. I got a feeling a lot of drivers are going to quit anyway when they need a new truck and all they can find are ones with the EPA junk.
@David Hotaling I really don't blame ya for leaving and I'm damn sure you're not the only one to walk away either. And California is stupid with their shit anyway. I don't have to drive a truck to see that. Guess I'll just have to keep playing American Truck Simulator...
I'm with you bro. @Matt Berg My last truck was a 2015 Pinnacle, nice truck but hated the auto. I found out that if you're hooked to a trailer, or can back into a curb, place wheel chocks in front. You can push the brake button in & the truck will stay running, Helpful in the winter.
Great video!! Could any Mack driver share if you please how to engage the power divider and lock differential on a 2019 Mack Pinnacle? When you press on the bottoms to engage these functions nothing is illuminated on the instrument pannel to let you know they are engaged. Any information will be greatly appreciated, thank you so much!!! By the way, I am the driver for this vehicle, I am thinking there is a malfunction with the power divider & diff lock, but I feel we don't know how to use it. By the way Mack are amazing work horses!! Thank you for this great video!!!
I love to drive my mdrive...... off a cliff, but the 13 liter motors got a really really low torque curve, anything past 1500 is just more fuel and noise
Good to know about the transmission modes. I'm used to trucks taking a bit to get up to speed so I plan my speed based on my experience. Will tuck this nugget of info away so I can be respectful on the road to you guys.
Hey Boston Trucker, love the videos keep them coming. Like the new Mack, love the kenworth. I drove a few Mack trucks in my days, they were like the dog on the hood, no ball's, what's the newer truck like especially with an automatic in it? I am with you, I like a clutch and 18 gears.
During the winter I've been delivering new Macks from the plant, in fact I took a Pinnacle to Ballard in Rhode Island and a really nice black one to McDevitt up in Manchester. Even though the cabs on the Pinnacles are the same as on the Anthems and Granites, The PIs are definitely my favorites. It's amazing how quiet they are (at least when they're new), generally they're really comfortable to drive. And, I do agree that the indicator lights on the dash switches aren't easy to spot. Maybe after a while you know what to look for. As for automatics, might as well get used to them. I've delivered maybe 60 or so trucks since December 2018, and only 4 or 5 have had standards. In fact, I heard from more than one service guy that Mack has stopped installing them altogether. I like the Mdrive much more than the Allisons that are common in the Granites. They shift way smoother, at least when you're bobtailing!Keep these videos coming, but find a way to mount your phone so you don't get busted for distracted driving!
They were not really a problem for me, I always found them comfortable. But as I think about it, maybe it's harder to get the air out of the lumbar because there's no good way to push against it with your lower back. The seat air would exhaust by your weight or the weight of the seat, and you can press against the upper seat with your shoulders. Or maybe it's just that the valve's no good on yours. I've had a few breakdowns in new units, too, sometimes weird little things.
@@TheBostonTrucker I just finished watching...I was blown away when you opened the door, then closed it again....im not or never will be used to a MACK like this...
Nice truck, I hesitate to say this but, I used to film while driving until one of my friends pointed out that if I ever had a accident a good lawyer would go perusing my social media and show that I was unsafe because I was holding a camera, so needless to say I use my camera mounts now, that way I can say I am now a responsible and safe person LOL
I hate everything about Mack’s but they do make the quietest cab. I used to drive a granite tri axle and I could sit in the truck next to a crew jackhammering and not even hear them. I had to always drive with the window cracked so I could hear fire truck sirens and whatnot when driving.
My company got 3 brand new pinnacles in 2015 with 13 speeds. (They get 3 to 4 a year. Now getting anthems.) all 3 of those trucks the cb didn’t work. One truck was in a different location. My partners had a disconnected antenna wire in the dash and I and our mechanics could never figure out my antenna on my truck. So I added a third antenna on the back. I think the next years trucks had cb antenna problems as well.
They put a leg blocker in so you can't move over due to crash standards. Depending on the options you got the engine will try to learn how you drive to compensate for your load for max mileage.
I drove one of the first automatics in a Freightliner day cab (around 2001 or so I think), that our company had as a demo. Drove into NYC from NJ, was actually surprised how well it did. The salesman told me the computer would start to program/optimize itself based on the regular work it did, and driver practices (if it usually had the same driver), to max out its efficiency. So this has been going on for a while.
I'm 6'2", I've driven a bunch of these, and there's plenty of room in them. Way more than the Pete I drive regularly. Pinnacles, Granites and Anthems all use essentially the same cab, btw.
The little slot is supposed to be a phone holder and the long narrow channel is supposed to be for the cord I never used them in the Anthems at my last company. I never used them because they didn’t work that well with an otter box and I don’t like my phone sideways
I love the mack door slam. An old driver once told me when he closes a truck door he wants it to close. He was taking about the mack doors 👍check out my new pinnacle at chris frane. Or mack truck. Thanks for your great videos Boston trucker
@@TheBostonTrucker sorry I don't know how to send a link lol I'm not very good with the internet. But if you search mack truck I'm the one with the 2 old r models behind my pole barn and the new silver pinnacle with the mac aluminum dump
I like it im sure its a pleasure to operate but I am old school too I would prefer a maxitorque manual but your employer is looking at his annual fuel cost the mack salesmen must have been mighty convincing on that M-drive option
@@mr7badass ya I know when I started in 87 I was intimidated with it but my coach really pressed me stuck by me after 2 weeks you could not differentiate me from any one that had 10 or more years in the saddle
During the winter I deliver new Macks from the plant, and all but a very few are automatics. For my money, Allisons can't touch an Mdrive. The Mdrives shift much smoother. Granted, that's from driving bobtail tractors and chassis. But during construction season I drive a 2005 Granite with an Allison, and it shifts more or less the same.
We have a few CH Mack's, set back axle. I was in a 15 and got moved to a 16 I think. Last year before the Anthem. It's JUNK compared to the 15. The door seals are garbage, don't stick to the door jamb. The headliner in the sleeper is already falling down. The exhaust has like nothing supporting it and breaks off. The cabinets in the sleeper are cheap junk, doors won't latch good and flop open. I'm about 6ft3 and not enough leg room. The dash has this clip piece and it gets loose in the dash rattling around. Sorry VoMack, I'm not impressed. Check engine light. Hate the stability control. Atleast it's a 10sp Eaton I guess.
Bizarre exhaust piping. It looks like it favors the right side exhaust pipe. Left one is going for the ride. Like how the center gauge cluster shows what gear your in.
The rear suspension looks like a version of the old Kenworth Neway system, when you have to replace the bushings in those trailing arms, your mechanic isn't gonna like it lol
Nice looking truck, hate to say this but under the hood looks exactly the same as the d13 in the Volvo i drive every day. And it sucks. Hate the engine in my truck. Couldnt imagine mine with an auto, 0 to 60 in 3 and a half weeks. Hope yours has a little more power than mine does. Other than that, sweet looking ride. Too quiet tho
That DEF is horrible. I had a Pinnacle it was 2016 I loved the truck but the DEF system was always screwing up , it would clog up exhaust system and basically would compact in exhaust system shutting me down on numerous occasions.I talked to a head mechanic at Mack and he told me the system wasn't ready to be put into public use. I use to call Mack Headquarters and they couldn't even tell me how to fix it. Well my boss and I finally got tired of all the breakdowns and we found a place that removed those systems from the truck. As long as your not going to California you don't need it. After th3y did what they did that truck was the best truck I ever had. Good luck with the DEF system items pos at best.
Is not an automatic, it is an AUTOMATED MANUAL TRANSMISSION , still operates like the typical multi-gear standard transmission, just that now clutch actuation and gear selection is done by computers. It has the same clutch-pack structure as a regular manual transmission. It is not an automatic because it has no torque-converter and no wet clutches. Automatic (Torque Converter) transmissions are built by: ALLISON Transmissions CATERPILLAR Transmissions ZF Transmissions (Powerline Series) Automated-Manual Transmissions are built by: Mack-M-Drive / M-Drive HD. Volvo- I-Shift. Eaton- Ultrashift / Ultrashift Plus Detroit Diesel- DT-12 (Mercedes Benz)
You can see the Volvo relationship. Yeah, there’s a clock in the accelerator & if you tap the jake down a notch, it gives max jake power. It’s the new wave, these are the new standards & you have to opt for the old school not the other way around. 🤷🏾♂️ you think that shifts low, the KW T680 shifts just over idle just about. 🤦🏾♂️
That’s the difference between a mack and a Cummins if that’s the big 6 it’s really a Volvo engine. They operate at a lower engine speed some run all the way down to 900 rpms
Not Automatic, Automated. computer is shifting a standard gearbox. also the performance mode in Europe ( Mack is Volvo) is good for roundabouts, so you you don't tortoise away and block the circle.
Abenog Cyklen totally. As beautiful as those trucks are they’re light years behind some of the Euro wagons from Scania and Volvo in technology, power and efficiency.
Mack or Volvo nowadays its the same thing.the engine that you have on that truck its a Volvo.even the noise on iddle its 100%volvo 🤣🤣🤣but its a good truck 👍
Beautiful truck but it needs a clutch the 12 spd manual Mack tranny would be great in that pinnacle I drove the Mack 5 spd 6 spd mud stick 12 spd and 18 spd I prefer a clutch more control over the truck
Say what you want about autos, I prefer a stick. You can't downshift an auto to slow the truck down in bad weather I always used the tranny in bad weather and stay off the brakes,
Clutch pedal or no clutch pedal. It's not an automatic. It is a manual transmission that is electronically and/or air double clutched and shifted therefore called "AUTOMATED". Which is different from an automatic transmission. It is an automated manual transmission, which these days they have figured out how to get rid of the clutch pedal. So your salesman is right in that regard.
@David Hotaling Sounds illegal as hell to me. Next they'll be staking out places like Fitzgerald and snatching them the moment they leave the lot probably.
@David Hotaling I thought Europe had emissions regulations for their trucks and tractors. Anyway regardless I'm thinking hard about changing my mind and not getting into the trucking industry.
@David Hotaling Yeah I actually figured that out after the fact. Wish they would put something on their website that says so too. Their website left the impression on me that the EPA had relaxed on the gliders.
@David Hotaling I'd imagine ones even older than that have gone up in value too probably. Maybe I'll get lucky and find an Argosy G-K floating around. Know some Freightliner dealers had them even up to around 2015 or 16 as a you-know-what kit. Sure cabovers are a niche item now but I fell in love with that European style front end on it when I saw one.
I would take an automatic any day, I’m sick of shifting. The only way I can see a stick being better is no electronics to leave you stranded a stick will always get you home
I am a pete 379/389 guy and I am looking to buy my first truck, after driving mack trucks with eaton fuller (18s) I have to say I fell in love with it, the looks, the ride, the dash and now I am experiencing a change of heart. Absolutely stunning truck.
They're pretty good trucks!
Mack is really stepping up there game all around. Very comfortable now and soooo quiet.
I had a 2015 Pinnacle with the auto,, hated it! But it looks like they made some changes , like the quick downshift. I found it took forever to downshift on it's own so I would push the buttons on mjne. but the seats look nice, I drove CH for quite a few tears they were always good trucks, the Pinnacle is just a CH with a new name.
We have Mack Anthems with the mDrive and MP8 engines, and them things are power houses! I myself like a manual stick, but I’ll give credit where it’s due, and the mDrive works rather well compared to other automated manual transmissions.
I've been pulling flatbed, hauling sod in a 2022 Mack Pinnacle PI64T with 505 HP MP8 and mDrive for about 18 months. Sod farm owner asked me "if money was no object, what truck would I buy?" I've driven just about every make and I told him a Mack. I'm 72 and it's the best I've driven compared to everything from Autocar through Peterbilts. In another 20 years you'll appreciate the option of an automated transmission and the quietness!
I love the look of the set forward axle 👍
Mack’s always had the most satisfying door slam. I know that’s weird but every Mack I drove had the best shutting doors lol
Because it's a quality truck.
yes! that and the 99 to 16 ford super duty door slam. so satisfying.
The new macks I drove were junk no power !
I really enjoy seeing the trucks from that area. The drivers/owners really dress them up with pin stripes and super chrome and stainless. Just don't see much of that anymore. Those guys doing the pin striping are incredible.
Us New Englanders love our pinstripes!
Pinnacle is a fitting name for that truck. I drive a 2020 Mack Anthem and so far I love it.
For those that don't know Volvo owns Mack now so the Mack truck and engine are just volvos with a Mack name on it so everything has changed
There still running m8 mack engine. But. I agree. Anything volvo. Is about junk
@@toddreynolds8875 - The Mack M8 engine is nothing more than a Volvo D13 painted red with slightly different ecm programming. Same as the M-drive, nothing but an I-shift.
MackRD is the only way to go with a Mack
Volkswagen owns NAVISTAR
International trucks now have Volkswagen diesel engines from their MAN Trucks subsidiary (A26 diesel engine) and MAN Trucks diesel engines (Maxxforce Advanced EGR diesel fiasco)
Daimler (Mercedes Benz) owns Freightliner Trucks, Western-Star Trucks, Thomas Built Buses and Detroit Diesel...All them powered by Mercedes Benz diesel engines badged as "Detroit Diesel", except for light duty models and school buses using diesel engines from Cummins.
Paccar PX diesel engines are rebadged Cummins diesel engines and their MX engine series is from European DAF Trucks....yet no-one bitches about those, just about MACK and VOLVO doing trucks together.....
@@EM6285 Yeah, IH really shot themselves in the foot with their junk Maxxforce engines
I run a 2017 mack granite with an mp6 engine with the mdrive what an absolute amazing truck love it.
I’ve been watching your videos since 2014 and I love every video since I subscribed in 2014 😊😊😊🙏🙏
Thank you very much for your time and support!
Looks like a nice truck, Mike! Enjoy!
Dad and I almost bought a new Mack triaxle. It was setup the same. I thought it was a really nice truck but decided not to because we didn’t want a payment. I like my loud, rattling, black smoke blowing 99 Ch 600. Paid 10 grand for it 2 years ago and she’s rolls out every day. Thanks for the “tutorial “. Lol.
Reminds me of an old Mack Superliner mixes with a little Mack Model R
Pretty sweet truck
Awesome stuff man! Keep them coming. Thanks
Thank you
Nice, glad to see a new MACK in the barn, I had a new CH back in 2006 long hood pulling for Quick Crete & it was pleasure. My last truck was a 2015 Pinnacle set back axle.
Hate the auto,, My 2015 sucked , my 2006 had a 10 speed & it was fine, I like down shifting to slow down the truck especially in snow. But the MACK is a nice truck,, went in my friends Anthem last week, that;s nice also
Love your companies color scheme NICE truck
I'm 3 days into it, starting to get use to it but it's not my thing, I'll be back shifting the Kdub next week. Color scheme since 1948.
I drove for 2 different dump truck companies both were Red with black fenders & P stripes
We have a couple of these where I work part-time...and I had a heck of a time figuring out the jake brake my first shift...lol
...and I couldn't figure out how to release the hood prop latch for about 10mins doing my 1st pretrip as well
I've been driving a 2018 Pinnacle with the M Drive, that's just how they run. It takes some getting used to, but let it do its thing and it'll get you where you need to go
It's a good truck. but I prefer manual transmission 13 or 18 speed and. All gauges on the dash.
The old school pinnacles had way better pulling power if you ask me. And I liked the old school cruise o matic.
That paint job 👌🏽
New always looks nice but ,no thanks. I want a truck to do what I tell it to . I don't want it to shut off because it idled too long. I don't want it to decide when to shift or not to shift. I don't want it to apply brakes because it was programmed to be "safer". I don't want DEF , down around 13°F that garbage turns into blue slushy. I don't want to be anti progress but is all the high tech nonsense on trucks gaining anything besides higher repair bills and more breakdowns because of all the useless integrated systems?
I look at all this regulation crap now just on the emission side of things and I don't think I'm going to even try and get into this industry now. I got a feeling a lot of drivers are going to quit anyway when they need a new truck and all they can find are ones with the EPA junk.
@David Hotaling I really don't blame ya for leaving and I'm damn sure you're not the only one to walk away either. And California is stupid with their shit anyway. I don't have to drive a truck to see that. Guess I'll just have to keep playing American Truck Simulator...
I'm with you bro. @Matt Berg My last truck was a 2015 Pinnacle, nice truck but hated the auto. I found out that if you're hooked to a trailer, or can back into a curb, place wheel chocks in front. You can push the brake button in & the truck will stay running, Helpful in the winter.
Those Mack stereo are bad ass for a Mack 😊
We have a 2018 pinnacle at work with an 18 speed Eaton fuller. It pulls pretty hard for just 505 horsepower
You need to get the Minimizer floor mats . I have them in my 19 granite.
You know me Matt, I love MACKS & that is an awesome truck.
Thank you, it's Mike though. ☺️
Sorry like a Matt. LOL!!!
Great video!! Could any Mack driver share if you please how to engage the power divider and lock differential on a 2019 Mack Pinnacle? When you press on the bottoms to engage these functions nothing is illuminated on the instrument pannel to let you know they are engaged. Any information will be greatly appreciated, thank you so much!!! By the way, I am the driver for this vehicle, I am thinking there is a malfunction with the power divider & diff lock, but I feel we don't know how to use it. By the way Mack are amazing work horses!! Thank you for this great video!!!
I love to drive my mdrive...... off a cliff, but the 13 liter motors got a really really low torque curve, anything past 1500 is just more fuel and noise
I have hardly any automatic experience, but that is a beautiful truck and I would love to drive it.
Automatic experience? What's that? Lol
Very nice truck
Good to know about the transmission modes. I'm used to trucks taking a bit to get up to speed so I plan my speed based on my experience. Will tuck this nugget of info away so I can be respectful on the road to you guys.
Thank you from all of us truckers for your respect!
Hey Boston Trucker, love the videos keep them coming. Like the new Mack, love the kenworth. I drove a few Mack trucks in my days, they were like the dog on the hood, no ball's, what's the newer truck like especially with an automatic in it? I am with you, I like a clutch and 18 gears.
Thanks Mark! The new truck is nice but I'll stick with the Kenworth.
nice truck
During the winter I've been delivering new Macks from the plant, in fact I took a Pinnacle to Ballard in Rhode Island and a really nice black one to McDevitt up in Manchester. Even though the cabs on the Pinnacles are the same as on the Anthems and Granites, The PIs are definitely my favorites. It's amazing how quiet they are (at least when they're new), generally they're really comfortable to drive. And, I do agree that the indicator lights on the dash switches aren't easy to spot. Maybe after a while you know what to look for. As for automatics, might as well get used to them. I've delivered maybe 60 or so trucks since December 2018, and only 4 or 5 have had standards. In fact, I heard from more than one service guy that Mack has stopped installing them altogether. I like the Mdrive much more than the Allisons that are common in the Granites. They shift way smoother, at least when you're bobtailing!Keep these videos coming, but find a way to mount your phone so you don't get busted for distracted driving!
How do you like seats in them? I find this one, the lumbar is constantly applied and won't depress.
They were not really a problem for me, I always found them comfortable. But as I think about it, maybe it's harder to get the air out of the lumbar because there's no good way to push against it with your lower back. The seat air would exhaust by your weight or the weight of the seat, and you can press against the upper seat with your shoulders. Or maybe it's just that the valve's no good on yours. I've had a few breakdowns in new units, too, sometimes weird little things.
Give me a kenworth with a Cummins any day
Cheers from Connecticut
Thanks Mike
Thank you
Gotta love that dogg
closing the door reminds me of the pete I drove....it was like air tight and sealed!
It's unreal!
@@TheBostonTrucker I just finished watching...I was blown away when you opened the door, then closed it again....im not or never will be used to a MACK like this...
Nice truck, I hesitate to say this but, I used to film while driving until one of my friends pointed out that if I ever had a accident a good lawyer would go perusing my social media and show that I was unsafe because I was holding a camera, so needless to say I use my camera mounts now, that way I can say I am now a responsible and safe person LOL
This is a good point, I was wondering about this too. Sounds like good advice.
WoW! What size are those fuel tanks. Never seen such big tanks on a local run tractor.
Very nice Mike 👍. Half the time to clean interior lol but solid looking truck. They are tough looking when dressed out. Your truck is in shop ?
Yes it is.
NICE TUTORIAL OF YOUR TWO STACK MACK WITH A WINDOW IN THE BACK!!
Thank you
How reliable are these trucks? Looking to get one maybe 2015 and up but want to know how the emissions are.
I'd take the super liner over the new one any day, it is a pretty nice truck though.
Looks much better than the Anthem. Still miss the models before Volvo involving tho.
I hate everything about Mack’s but they do make the quietest cab. I used to drive a granite tri axle and I could sit in the truck next to a crew jackhammering and not even hear them. I had to always drive with the window cracked so I could hear fire truck sirens and whatnot when driving.
Yep, and have to hear the loader operator beeping before he throws a bucket load on your walkway!
My company got 3 brand new pinnacles in 2015 with 13 speeds. (They get 3 to 4 a year. Now getting anthems.) all 3 of those trucks the cb didn’t work. One truck was in a different location. My partners had a disconnected antenna wire in the dash and I and our mechanics could never figure out my antenna on my truck. So I added a third antenna on the back. I think the next years trucks had cb antenna problems as well.
Crazy how Mack can't get this together!
Ya betta get with the times DPF DOC DEF, peak torque @1,000 RPM,down sped engines cruise at 1200 RPM.
I want a kenworth w900 in the ultrashift or allison!
this is a cool way of making it look old
So weird seeing this pop up and watching it realizing it wasn’t my ride at the time haha
They put a leg blocker in so you can't move over due to crash standards. Depending on the options you got the engine will try to learn how you drive to compensate for your load for max mileage.
I drove one of the first automatics in a Freightliner day cab (around 2001 or so I think), that our company had as a demo. Drove into NYC from NJ, was actually surprised how well it did. The salesman told me the computer would start to program/optimize itself based on the regular work it did, and driver practices (if it usually had the same driver), to max out its efficiency. So this has been going on for a while.
My cabover FH16 Volvo had mirrors like that
Oh nice
this color scheme looks great! hows the automatic in this?
The driver who drives it daily says it's good.
These American day-cabs look very short. I am 6 feet 3, could I sit comfortably in it? Greetings from Germany and thx alot for your efforts.
They're a little short backed so it might be a little tight but tall drivers make do. I don't have that problem.
I'm 6'2", I've driven a bunch of these, and there's plenty of room in them. Way more than the Pete I drive regularly. Pinnacles, Granites and Anthems all use essentially the same cab, btw.
Why did they choose the MACK as opposed to another Kenworth? Why the automatic? Are you retiring any trucks, or adding drivers? Just curious.
The boss wanted to try a new Mack with an M Drive. I think he'll be going back to Kenworth next. I'm still in my W900 just borrowing this.
The little slot is supposed to be a phone holder and the long narrow channel is supposed to be for the cord I never used them in the Anthems at my last company. I never used them because they didn’t work that well with an otter box and I don’t like my phone sideways
I love the mack door slam. An old driver once told me when he closes a truck door he wants it to close. He was taking about the mack doors 👍check out my new pinnacle at chris frane. Or mack truck. Thanks for your great videos Boston trucker
You're exactly right! The Superliner shuts tight like this.
Can't find your page. Send me a link.
@@TheBostonTrucker sorry I don't know how to send a link lol I'm not very good with the internet. But if you search mack truck I'm the one with the 2 old r models behind my pole barn and the new silver pinnacle with the mac aluminum dump
ruclips.net/video/s9iX5SLiuss/видео.html
Just missing a stick in the middle
Call of the truck didn’t come with LED headlights and LED marker lights and tail lights as well?
I misspoke, they did come with them.
I like it im sure its a pleasure to operate but I am old school too I would prefer a maxitorque manual but your employer is looking at his annual fuel cost the mack salesmen must have been mighty convincing on that M-drive option
george wilson everyone’s going to autos. It’s sickening. For the dumbasses that can’t drive.
@@mr7badass ya I know when I started in 87 I was intimidated with it but my coach really pressed me stuck by me after 2 weeks you could not differentiate me from any one that had 10 or more years in the saddle
Real men start on an Auto Car with a quad box. No frills. Plenty of gears.
Mike, you would love the Allison automatic, that's what i have in my mack
During the winter I deliver new Macks from the plant, and all but a very few are automatics. For my money, Allisons can't touch an Mdrive. The Mdrives shift much smoother. Granted, that's from driving bobtail tractors and chassis. But during construction season I drive a 2005 Granite with an Allison, and it shifts more or less the same.
What’s the MPG difference with it in the power mode vs CAT and Cummins you drive if any?
They all get 4 to 5 mpg
Probably a lot more expensive for repairs
New mack. My buddies got. Pulling 6.7 mpg with. 455. And 12 spd auto shift. Hauling gravel
M drive is a automated manual still has clutch and gearbox. Automatic has a torque converter like a school bus and garbage truck.
Thanks Bruce
They must be pretty good trucks , most of the loggers around here are switching over to them with the Mdrive .
Ours is decent, we've just had a bunch of sensor issues is all.
Does it seem to pull well compared to a Cat6NZ ?
We have a few CH Mack's, set back axle. I was in a 15 and got moved to a 16 I think. Last year before the Anthem. It's JUNK compared to the 15. The door seals are garbage, don't stick to the door jamb. The headliner in the sleeper is already falling down. The exhaust has like nothing supporting it and breaks off. The cabinets in the sleeper are cheap junk, doors won't latch good and flop open. I'm about 6ft3 and not enough leg room. The dash has this clip piece and it gets loose in the dash rattling around. Sorry VoMack, I'm not impressed. Check engine light. Hate the stability control. Atleast it's a 10sp Eaton I guess.
Bizarre exhaust piping. It looks like it favors the right side exhaust pipe. Left one is going for the ride.
Like how the center gauge cluster shows what gear your in.
If the back up light is like mine, it shuts off at 20 or so mph.
Also I think if you drive with the air suspension dumped, it will put an alarm on.
I see so many drivers that need auto shut off on the work light
It doesn't have a clutch?
Nice automatic
The rear suspension looks like a version of the old Kenworth Neway system, when you have to replace the bushings in those trailing arms, your mechanic isn't gonna like it lol
She looks nice but i still like my Superliner with a good old 350-12 speed,cant teach an old dog new tricks i guess.!
I drive a Superliner too! My boss asked me to run this while my trucks in the shop.
Looks like CH bonnet from australia
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Hey mike how does this pull compared to your KW?
It pulls pretty good in performance mode but not as good as the Kenworth.
@@TheBostonTrucker Yeah but, your KW doesn't have a little 13 Liter like the Pinnacle...
Nice looking truck, hate to say this but under the hood looks exactly the same as the d13 in the Volvo i drive every day. And it sucks. Hate the engine in my truck. Couldnt imagine mine with an auto, 0 to 60 in 3 and a half weeks. Hope yours has a little more power than mine does.
Other than that, sweet looking ride. Too quiet tho
It's a nice truck but the automatic killed it for me!..I drive an 06 Mack with 13 speed manual shift..
I'll be back with my 18 speed soon!
If you leave the pto on , it will not shift out of first .
See? I'm no rookie because I haven't learned that yet! Good info
That DEF is horrible. I had a Pinnacle it was 2016 I loved the truck but the DEF system was always screwing up , it would clog up exhaust system and basically would compact in exhaust system shutting me down on numerous occasions.I talked to a head mechanic at Mack and he told me the system wasn't ready to be put into public use. I use to call Mack Headquarters and they couldn't even tell me how to fix it. Well my boss and I finally got tired of all the breakdowns and we found a place that removed those systems from the truck. As long as your not going to California you don't need it. After th3y did what they did that truck was the best truck I ever had. Good luck with the DEF system items pos at best.
Thanks for the information I'll pass it on to the driver who drives it and the owners.
The new phone takes great videos.
I love my new Google Pixel 4
@@TheBostonTrucker I'm an iPhone guy, but i do like the Pixel phones a lot.
🙌🙌 Automatics is the way to go. Makes u less tired after a long day
Definitely feel well rested at the end of the day.
It is nice in traffic, like in Boston & New York.. that's the only thing I liked about it. Plus I kept reaching for the stick to change gears. LOL
Reaching for the phantom stick and stomping my left foot on the floor! Lol
I'll keep my pre emission Pete. Your new rig is nice until it's time to pay repair bills.
It's not mine I was just using it while my pre emmision Kenworth was in the shop.
Is not an automatic, it is an AUTOMATED MANUAL TRANSMISSION , still operates like the typical multi-gear standard transmission, just that now clutch actuation and gear selection is done by computers. It has the same clutch-pack structure as a regular manual transmission. It is not an automatic because it has no torque-converter and no wet clutches.
Automatic (Torque Converter) transmissions are built by:
ALLISON Transmissions
CATERPILLAR Transmissions
ZF Transmissions (Powerline Series)
Automated-Manual Transmissions are built by:
Mack-M-Drive / M-Drive HD.
Volvo- I-Shift.
Eaton- Ultrashift / Ultrashift Plus
Detroit Diesel- DT-12 (Mercedes Benz)
Thanks for explaining it.
You can see the Volvo relationship. Yeah, there’s a clock in the accelerator & if you tap the jake down a notch, it gives max jake power. It’s the new wave, these are the new standards & you have to opt for the old school not the other way around. 🤷🏾♂️ you think that shifts low, the KW T680 shifts just over idle just about. 🤦🏾♂️
I didn't know that about the 680.
The lumbar is like that in our new Pinnacle. I think thats just a poor design on their part. I thought ours was defective lol
It's miserable!
My 2015 had the same problem, always a lump there.
What’s the tractor weigh by itself
I'm not really sure. My guess 16k.
O that’s not bad at all I was looking at buying one but I was hesitant cuz they look heavy
Radio will blow you out the door
Great
That’s the difference between a mack and a Cummins if that’s the big 6 it’s really a Volvo engine. They operate at a lower engine speed some run all the way down to 900 rpms
Out of curiosity are you Sicilian?
Nope
Not Automatic, Automated. computer is shifting a standard gearbox. also the performance mode in Europe ( Mack is Volvo) is good for roundabouts, so you you don't tortoise away and block the circle.
Seeing this video, it's makes it understandable that Macks don't sell in Europe 😏
Abenog Cyklen totally. As beautiful as those trucks are they’re light years behind some of the Euro wagons from Scania and Volvo in technology, power and efficiency.
It is just a Volvo
Mack or Volvo nowadays its the same thing.the engine that you have on that truck its a Volvo.even the noise on iddle its 100%volvo 🤣🤣🤣but its a good truck 👍
Aren't we fancy?
Beautiful truck but it needs a clutch the 12 spd manual Mack tranny would be great in that pinnacle I drove the Mack 5 spd 6 spd mud stick 12 spd and 18 spd I prefer a clutch more control over the truck
The big problem is that is not manual
Say what you want about autos, I prefer a stick. You can't downshift an auto to slow the truck down in bad weather I always used the tranny in bad weather and stay off the brakes,
That's crazy quiet
Right!
Clutch pedal or no clutch pedal. It's not an automatic. It is a manual transmission that is electronically and/or air double clutched and shifted therefore called "AUTOMATED". Which is different from an automatic transmission. It is an automated manual transmission, which these days they have figured out how to get rid of the clutch pedal. So your salesman is right in that regard.
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Would be nice if you could order a Mack as a Glider.
What exactly do you mean by take?
@David Hotaling Sounds illegal as hell to me. Next they'll be staking out places like Fitzgerald and snatching them the moment they leave the lot probably.
@David Hotaling I thought Europe had emissions regulations for their trucks and tractors. Anyway regardless I'm thinking hard about changing my mind and not getting into the trucking industry.
@David Hotaling Yeah I actually figured that out after the fact. Wish they would put something on their website that says so too. Their website left the impression on me that the EPA had relaxed on the gliders.
@David Hotaling I'd imagine ones even older than that have gone up in value too probably. Maybe I'll get lucky and find an Argosy G-K floating around. Know some Freightliner dealers had them even up to around 2015 or 16 as a you-know-what kit. Sure cabovers are a niche item now but I fell in love with that European style front end on it when I saw one.
I don't do the automatic thing. Sorcery.
The spot mirror is garbage. I went out and bought the other style mirrors for my pinnacle so I could see going around corners
Hey I’m first
What else is new? Thanks pal!
TheBostonTrucker nothing just wishing that the Mack was a manual instead of a auto
I would take an automatic any day, I’m sick of shifting. The only way I can see a stick being better is no electronics to leave you stranded a stick will always get you home
matthew riordan-solid axles are the only way to go
Yeah, without a def system. Emissions leave you stranded more than anything nowadays.
mr7badass that’s true I forgot about that
Nice buts it's not a W900
No it's not! I'll be back in it soon.