Victrix Pro BFG Review (Fighting Games)
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2023
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I personally prefer the DK bongos for SF6, but I’ve been experimenting with the power glove lately.
should try the infinity gauntlet next
Your pad journey was something else lmao :D Glad you find the one!
I know right! thank you
Thanks for the preview! I´m thinking of getting one but first I´d like you or anyone here to answer this question. With the PS5 dpad, I find some combos on SF6 very time tight, for instance with Ryu doing sMP, cMPx, super art. Do you have problems performing this when playing or it is at least easier with Victrix? The problem is that doing with precision double quarter circle with the common PS5d pad is difficult in so little time I think
You literally summarized my journey apart that I haven’t purchased the Victrix !The Hori is inconsistent on long term even if I like the dpad texture which doesn’t hurt me. You really described it well.
Today I’m back on DualShock 4 with a stupid thumb glove as the DS4 dpad is hurting me very hard. Once my skin becomes a bit gripy, the dpad slick texture kind of pulls my skin close to the nail! That’s why the glove helps to slide smoothly. I don’t understand why Sony doesn’t have a smooth granular texture on their dpads like the Hori Octa dpad. It would be the perfect pad.
So I’m considering buying the Victrix even if I know it’s not perfect.
Amazing video. Thanks
Thank you very much, which glove are you using? If you can post a link
Totally agree about the Octa dpad hurting my thumb. It felt like it was burning - I was actually using drops of water from the condensation on my drink to cool off my thumb and get some grip! I think it gets better over time, but I ended up getting the Pro BFG as well and I think I do prefer it. They all seem to have their quirks!
I agree
The octa pad is smaller so once you learn to stay inside the edges it’s a great pad. They also dull quickly for me I don’t even feel it. I think the your pad is sturdier but the octa being 6 button is just too good to pass up imo. I guess with enough practice you can click the RS and LS sticks consistently but the ability to have them as actual trigger buttons gives you a great accessibility for shortcuts. 1 button for Parry, DI, and EX moves for both punch and kick is amazing.
@@gnarrcan108 OD*
I’ve been using the victrix pdp since the launch of sf6. Best fight pad I’ve used & I’ve been using fightpads since sega released that 6 button on back in the 90s
glad you are enjoying it, it is a great controller.
Amazing Review of all Controllers. I own the PS5, the PS4, the Hori Octa and I can attest to all the critique that you said about it. I Regret not returning the Hori Octa.
thank you very much, if you can, get the victrix
nice review!
Glad you enjoyed it
Omg bro I commented on that post where you were talking about how you didn’t like the Hori. The thing about the Dpad being sharp is something I noticed as well but went away after use. I definitely think the shelf life of it isn’t gonna be longer than 9-10 months but rn now I think it’s a great pad. I definitely think your pad is more sturdy but just the option of a 6 button pad is too good to pass up bc of the massive amount of shortcuts you have access to. Having the 2 extra triggers for RS and LS buttons on gives you 2 buttons that you can assign for easy EX moves or anything for your character that requires double button inputs. I guess with practice though you can click the sticks and get the same effect but feel like input errors will happen.
The Hori can be good for some people but for me I really couldn’t use it for long, I like the Victrix it feels natural to use
Great video. I ended up ordering a hit box but it won’t be here until September so I’m just bouncing around pads. All the complaints you have about the victrix is exactly my issues. Those back buttons are literally the worst things. No idea why they don’t make them removable like the elite controllers for the Xbox. Deff a great dpad just wish the backside of the controller was better. As of right now I just use an 8bitdo sn30 pro. Dpad has been great and it’s super cheap. But I’ll prob try to put more time into the victrix.
Good luck with your hitbox it is the best way to play for sure, the victrix pad is great but has issues like you mentioned
Glad to know I'm not the only one that had thumb pain using the hori ocat's pad. It's at its worst when I play charge characters. The part about dropping inputs really hit home, too
You’re definitely not the only one, many others commented the same
Is The victrix more precise when you press back? cause dualsense also trigger the jump sometimes when i press back so I would like to know if victrix is different
It is more precise in every direction
Hey Machoor, in percentage how often do you miss inputs with your current controller?
If I miss something it’s from my error but the dpad is very accurate
Dope review, I've only gone back to pad from giving up trying to learn stick so dualsense feels godlike for speed. Just tiger knee inputs are impossible right now. I could just pick up a new character and save money 😂
i think if you try the victrix you will like the dpad
Hitbox is the way to go for SF. Dual senses D-pad is trash. Gets mushy in a month or so, useless in 6.
Thank you for this video. Out of the subject, can you tell me what monitor you are using ? Thks.
GIGABYTE Aorus Fi27Q, 1440p, 165 hz, 1 ms input latency.
@@machoortvThank you so much.
i have the Victrix BFG and agree with the points in the video almost 100% except i use the 6 button layout and find the extra 2 face buttons invaluable, but its just personal preference
thats the beauty of this controller
Back buttons on the BFG that adjust R2 L2 keep getting hit by accident...?
My solution.... Electrical Tape... I used black Electrical Tape, feels good and holds those slide buttons in place very well.
I know this is random, but check out at 25:03, after the shinku Hadoken hits, it looks like Ryu touched a Power Mushroom from Mario lol Maybe its my weird brain, but I hope im not crazy for this 🤣🤣🤣 Great video btw bro!!!
are you sure you arent the one on those power mushrooms? hahah
@@machoortv 👀👀👀 lol
Brilliant video mate, I been thrust the same journey, don't bother with the wolverine, I tried it, the d pad is a proper 8 way, and it actually doesn't work well for fighting games, so soft and loose inputs all over place, doesn't make sense but trust me it's a call of duty pad, shame cos al, the buttons and triggers feel great, any way, great video brother, thanks, Chris.
few things. I litterally removed the pieces in the back that cause you to hit the trigger the onces that completely unlock them. It is much better now. its not easy there is a video on it if you want me to post a link. I reduced the sensitivity entirely and now they function normal. the Dpad, u just have to use a little more effort to get it out, i can legit do it with my fingers, you wont break it....
Please post that video I want to see it
Man i just flick the top part super simple ive change tons of tomes to see which works best
Machoor you can get that dpad off. Use that torq drive tool they gave you in the box, and you can push it in slowly and lift it off. Or use a flat head screwdriver. It wont break its quite sturdy
If I ever feel like taking it off I will try that thank you!
Great video,I have the HORI for PS5 with the 6 button layout and its great. You really don't need to play with the claw grip, who does that anyway. I use just my thumb for the 6 button layout and the index finger for the triggers. It takes a little bit of time to get use to extra two buttons on the right. But after that is way better for example in SF6 you can map the additional 2 buttons as you want. I don't need to press the two button parry or map it in the right triggers. Now I don't drop any combos and can also do additional combos which I couldn't do with a normal pad controller.
many people use the claw grip apparently i was also shocked when i first found out
I have the same controller for Xbox and it's definitely a good pad, but you gotta get used to it. I don't use the six buttons, just the main 4 + shoulder buttons. But yeah the shoulder buttons being too close to each other is still a issue for me, even after 6 months playing on it I still hit both by accident sometimes
do u have any problem canceling's luke's light st.kick into OD knuckle?
I’m curious what the polling rate for this controller. On pc you can Overclock any controller to 1000hrz thus reducing input delay to 0.1ms anything under 500hrz your looking at 8-13ms of input delay so about 7 frames of delay.
Look it up this info is available
Fighting games run at 60 frames per second so a controller that has 8ms delay adds about half a frame of delay. A controller with 7 frames delay would be absolutely unusable.
I'm using the 8bitdo pro 2 wired controller for the series X and I love it perfect for Fighters, there's so many great reviews...
But it's target audience is the retro community so there's no reviews coming from the fighting game community
It's only 50 or 60 dollars and the quality is amazing there's even an app for pc and xbox for macros and other settings..
I would love to see someone from the FGC review it..
I just googled it, looks really cool but I’ve never heard of it before
Interesting, thank you, it's a bit (too) long and the background music is a bit too loud ... but great content and advices, thx you again :D
I will keep that in mind for next time
i was hopeing that you knew if you could change the L1 and L2 to the right side when you have the 6 buttons on the front thats kinda of a big deal for me
The face buttons were a major reason why I changed the Hori octa
Subbed, had to
thank you!
Victrx is the best. You not only get a great Dpad, but you get the 6 face buttons and the back paddle’s
it is really good and the pad is consistent I really like it
يا مشهور ..تحس الكبسات الاسهم احسن بما يخص بالتحرك بsf6 يعني احسن من الاتجاهات العادية بيد البلايستيشن العادية ؟
بالأسهم قصدك؟ ايوة طبعا احسن بس الصراحة يختربوا بعد كذا ٥ شهور و صارت لي و لأكثر من شخص اعرفهم و الضمان عند الشركة سيء.
@@machoortv احيييه يا ولد حقها ٧٠٠ ريال والكبسات تخرب !!! اجل بلا منها
I map button assistance input to one of the back buttons, and mirror the parry macro on another back button.
if you dont hit them accidentally that would be great for you
I mean I use my Qanba Drone which is PS4 licensed (even has a PS3 & PC option as well) and I’ve played the PS5 versions of both SFVI & KoFXV. Kinda weird it doesn’t work with Pads though.
I think maybe the stick companies updated their sticks software or soemthing im not sure
Man, say no more about that PS5 pad. It has me out here thinking I forgot how to crouch block!
Does this controller feel like it will last? How's it holding up nowadays?
It’s holding up great and looks like it will last long
@@machoortvare you still using this controller and is it working still?
Honestly could have worked as a paddle controller. Would feel a lot better for fighting games if you could remove the back buttons when playing fighting games and put them in for Shooters. Would also like if there was an extra pair of rear buttons
For those who want to play with a PS4 controller, like the HORI Fighting commander, or the Madcatz fighting pad, with no input lag, I would check BESAVIOR. I think is the only way
glad it works well for you
@@machoortv Sorry to ask, but you haven’t tried it ? For PS4 controllers there’s nothing like this
Machoor in latest tournament where menard won, there was players using ps4 controllers
yeah you can use it on pc, or on ps5 with a converter, they add latency too
I got a hori octa and get get past the button timing in SF6. I need my hitboxes big buttons for that game 😂
The Razer Wolverine for PS5 is the best option.
Best D-pad(8 way microswitch)
Lowest input lag.
Every button, including triggers is a microswitch.
Much higher build quality than the victrix...
Only downside is price...but it can be found for about $170.
On paper yes, top spec, but the dpad doesn't work well with fighting games, I returned it, shame coz everything else was great
Everyone is saying the ps5 wolverine dpad is trash but the Xbox one is good idk if I want to get either one of those or the victrix
I don't play with the d-pad I use the joystick to do the 360 and 720, and hadoukens
Very interesting, I can’t get used to that
@@machoortv I thought the same, but I gave it a good try, and got accustomed to it in about 1~2 days. I don't fail my hadokens of shryoukens, well, whatever to avoid destroying my controller out of frustration when the d-pad fails me.
the circle with the dpad directional is actually the best one.. you need the full 360 degrees of inputs when doing quarter or half circle motions.. its a very sensitive setting which IMO is what you wont get from just a regular dpad
I'm on Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog, myself.
Seriously, though. I just use my good old Xbox One controller, I'm not willing to bet too much money on controllers.
if it works well for you then thats perfect
I don't get why it's so hard for these guys to make an ideal controller now don't get me wrong there's millions of gamers out there each with their own preferences so that's near impossible
But simply take the ps5 controller design and change the dpad.. That's all that's it no 6 buttons no dpad placement in an odd angle or bad triggers.. like for example the Razer Wolverine..guys guys.. Just shift the dpad up that's it.. That's all..
Now the victrix does give u that but it's alil pricey I wish I cud try it before buying
I totally agree, also the back sliders in the Victrix are annoying
These controllers like victrix i think only are good for games like call of duty or battlefield. Because the extra buttons can all be assigned to help you. For SF6 you paying for just the dpad which makes no sense unless its helping you massivly which tbf it doesnt
it does make sense, the dpad issues are real and this controller helps with them
@@machoortv i dont think you needed it machoor. You got to 40,000 on a ps5 pad. And paladin is on 150,000 with a ps5 pad
@@eatdahl it’s not about the league points
@@machoortv machoor you beat jimmy 5-0 and paladin first set with a ps5 controller that shows its good enuf for me. Victrix is way to pricey if your just buying it for the dpad section. Your not going to see a major improvement. Even a ps5 controller won ceo
@eatdahl it's about comfort not a competitive edge
Meanwhile lots of the best SF6 players are playing on the PS5 Pad. I'm searching for other options too, but when I see pro players like Menard or Nuckleduu use PS4/PS5 controller... i think mabye it's not the controller who needs to be better.
maybe it is a cost related issue
Habibi I've been playing on Xbox racing wheel for the past few weeks, I'm pretty sure it's better than a hitbox
hahah I have one I should stream playing with it
Absolutely love my Victrix BFG, it is so clear of the PS Dualsense for fighting games and personally I think it’s THE best fighting game pad on the market period.
I use the diamond shaped D-Pad, but I do notice missing some of those half circle inputs on it. I love the feel of it but I’ve been testing with that one and the one you’re using.
And yes that D-Pad is so hard to take off, what I do is use the edge of a box cutter, push one side of the d-pad down, then on the other side where it’s lifted you just slide the edge of box cutter or exacto knife to pop it out.
glad you are enjoing your very expensive controller haha honestly that method for removing the dpad seems like it will eventually damage the controller, im not removing it tbh
I think PS5 controller is not very good for fighting game. But for now I just have to use it.
yeah that is true
the d pad on the ps4 is way better I was playing on ps5 and bought it pc just so I could use the ps4 controller
yeah the ps4 pad is much better than ps5
This victrix being priced at £180 is a joke. You can buy almost 3 ps5 controllers for that much. The benefits are very minimal and no way does it justify the price
I agree it is very pricy but it solved a problem for me
I have the Razer wolverine/Raoin/Octa/Edge. but the Victrix is the one that worked best for SF the 6face and xbox dpad style best combination by far. its been most accurate with super minimal drops in combo than the raoin which i use as a second.
so the victrix dpad is better than the wolverine? interesting
@machoortv yes i bought wolverine since i was using raoin for the dpad but the victrix works well you drop your moves usung the dpad especially when standing right aide and doing hadouken moves in between combos
@@machoortv also the wolverine have nice feels but seems like there is s pressure to press the face buttons.
No way.
The Wolverine is a smooth 8 way D-pad with microswitches. Feels like a pro arcade stick.
Every button uses microswitches.
Victrix hurts your thumb and is cheeply made.
@888YouCantHandle i dont know which dpad you are usujg on the victric but im using the xbox style. And i never had miss input now
Who is going to tell him?... you can use a PS4 controller on a ps5
Just plug it in and press the PlayStation button lmao
@@zantaeonigamingworks for ps4 games on ps5. Wont work with ps5 games on ps5.
@@dabrab6324 nah I played 2k23 ps5 with a ps4 controller
@@zantaeonigaming hmm you must be a special exception because thats not how it works. Perhaps you thought you were playing ps5 version of 2k but you were really on ps4 version.
Or.. get some fightstick....
not everybody likes fightsticks
Dude, I’m 13 minutes into this video and you still haven’t started talking about the Victrix 🤷♂️
The video is longer than 13 minutes for a reason
I play on ps5 and hate the controller! Im using the anolog bcus the DPad is nothing like the SuperNES which wrkd 4me evrytime. When i do DP i almost always hit the stupid black P option button smfh🤦..Y dafuk cudn they put it on the bottom or devise sumn to block pushing it during gameplay??! My nephew gt me a mayflash f500 stick bt its still nt the same..plus not a fan of wires anymor lol..I'm now hearing about those leverless ones..fastest DragonPunch apparently..ps5 DPad sucksBallz cus it's DRY af n gives u blisters😒
I hear you brother I know your pain trust me, if you switch to leverless that would be the best move
@@machoortvi think I'll try your controller cus it seems 2 b wrkn 4 u and I'm dusting off my sf6 Ryu with ur tips that help me ALOT bro, appreciate you man, keep up your awesome works🤙🏽
Lol I be whooping people with the regular Xbox control
Paladin is the number 1 ryu and hes using a ps5 controller. Tbf its personal preference. I find controller so in consistant.
I was using the Series X due to D pad but then realize if tournies comes in you cant use that except on pc
if it works for you thats great
SF6 does NOT run at 120HZ on PS5. I know you dunces still think it does but it doesn't. That option is there solely to turn of V-sync thus lowering input delay. WT will run at higher frames but it isn't touching 120 on PS5. I know, you console gamers are a little behind the curve on how these things actually work. So, you're welcome.
😂I’m a PC gamer and seems like you really don’t know the difference between refresh rate and frames per second. They are not the same. I suggest you educate yourself before insulting others like that. And oh yes it does run at 120hz 60 fps on PS5.
It DOES run in a 120fps container.
Aww PCMR is salty that the best version, the PS5 is what the Pro tournaments are using hahaha
It runs man 😅