First look at the Tobii Eye Tracker 5 in Microsoft Flight Simulator
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- After being incredibly indecisive about investing in a head tracker for the last few months, Tobii reached out to me last week and offered me the opportunity to take a look at the Tobii Eye Tracker 5 and try it out with Microsoft Flight Simulator.
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Congrats on the upgrade! I switched from VR to the Tobii simply due to convenience. It's absolutely wonderful, IMHO, after some adjustments.
Personally I increased the deadzone a little and independently adjusted the X and Y axis for my own taste.
I'll have a tinker with it later.
I got my Tobii for the same reason, is it as good as VR in terms of immersion? No. Do I use it much more frequently because it's convenient? Yes! Hence I love it, works really well!
Since you seem to be an experienced MSFS user, would you please take the time to read my comment and offer your opinion to my question. Thank-you.
I love my Tobi it dramatically improves situational awareness and as you mentioned is ideal for setting up airliners where you need to look at the EFB, then the MCDU and back to EFB then the OHP etc etc.
I’ve had mine a few months now ! It does make things more immersive for sure ! I did suffer initially with headaches ! I now just use the head tracking instead of the eyes and it works for me ! It’s a nice bit of kit and this is a great video by Jonathan showcasing the pros and cons ! I’m glad I bought it ! 👍🙏🏻❤️👨✈️✈️
I’ve had a Tobii prior to the Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 release (fantastic in Elite Dangerous and ATS). Took me a while to dial in my settings but I have it now so the sensitivity is such my head is the main tracking source but, when I look towards the side window, my head is sufficiently centred that I can then glance to my right or left so the eye tracking takes over and I can comfortably look behind me. I turn the tracker off when I need to interact with the instruments.
PSA you often need to press the key you have bound to Centre view twice when you are initially placed in the cockpit in order to get your correct default view, the double press not usually needed after switching Tobii off/on mid flight.
Great tips - thank you.
Since you seem to be an experienced MSFS user, would you please take the time to read my comment and offer your opinion to my question. Thank-you.
Great to see you finally have head, eye tracking. Its a game changer for sure. I am a trackir user for the last 4 years since MFS 2020 rolled out. I don't think i could ever use it without head tracking. If my trackir gives up, i defiantly will look at Tobii without hesitation. I use the cap so its a lot easier without cables but Tobii is a different ball game. Your videos Johnathan from now on will look even better. Well done to you sir, you fully deserve it. Big thumbs up from me👍
What amazes me is that you can actually fly in msfs. Takes me 15 to 20 minutes to get pass slow loading times and all the errors it has and then ctd when I make a navmap size change. I just reloaded X-Plane 11 just so I can fly.P.S. I like the video and the Tobii!
I rarely have any of those problems!
I have had GREAT luck with mine. I've had it for about 6 months. Once you get the settings right, it needs few or no adjustments. I suspend it when I am doing my complex MSFS startups, and activate it once I am ready to taxi. (There is a Flow Pro widget to turn it on and off) I love it all the time, but especially when doing landings. It makes it so much more realistic. I really like not having to wear a hat or headphones for it to work.
Thanks for sharing
Wow! Thank-you for sharing a demonstration of the Tobii Eye Tracker 5 with us. For me though it was how I will no longer be embarrassed whenever anyone else comes into my office space with all I have managed to stuff in it. I’M JUST JOKING!! My name is Guerry, and I’m from America. When I have managed to view you live streaming, I am “C-990 Buff”.
Truly, this has been a HUGE eye opener when it comes to the availability of equipment for making MSFS a more realistic simulator. I am impressed! Without having read the comments of others, which I normally do first, I have a question not only for you, but for your enlightened audience, since I am relatively new to MSFS. I already have the Logitech yoke, throttle quadrant, and rudder assemblies. When it comes to upgrading my equipment, at what priority would you and/or your audience put purchasing the Tobii Eye Tracker? For a matter of fact, when it comes to upgrading equipment itself, what would be your priority for upgrading the various components? For example, especially if I purchase a multiengine aircraft, I would love to have the Honeycomb yoke and throttle quadrant. Several of the Logitech ancillary components look attractive too. However, I prefer to read the opinion of others rather than spend a great deal of time in research and experimenting for myself.
From what I’ve gleaned from your video, I would place purchasing the Honeycomb equipment I mentioned ahead of the eye tracker. For their prices are almost similar, but I would get more enjoyment, in my opinion, by my priority.
So, if anyone is able to provide me with their suggestions, I would most appreciate it. There are no right or wrong opinions for me, and by all means, I will not hold anyone’s feet to the fire. All decisions I make when it comes to purchasing equipment, I will hold myself to be 100% responsible.
Thank-you ahead of time.
It's a very subjective question. I would put the controls ahead of the head tracker. Where a head tracker *really* starts to pay off is combat - which most people go nowhere near. The only misgiving I might have with the Honeycomb kit is that you will have all sorts of fun and games getting it to work correctly - which might involve running FSUIPC, SPAD, AaO or other middleware apps. I know more than one person that's sold the Honeycomb yolk and throttles after getting annoyed with the configuration mountain they had to climb with it.
I think I did, yoke, throttle, rudder pedals, in that order. Then a Realsimgear Garmin 530 GPS snuck in somehow, and they I finally took the dive into head/eye tracking.
@@jonbeckett: Thank-you sir!
@@jonbeckett: Thank-you sir! I truly appreciate your response. Have a good evening.
The Tobii was the last thing I purchased I use
CH Eclipse Yoke (PC) and rudder Pedals purchased for X-Plane 11 back in 2016 they work fine and can be fine tuned in MSFS 2020 I also use for helicopter
Logitech G Extreme 3D PRO Joystick, 12 Programmable Buttons, 8-way Hat Switch
Off Ebay for £12 that was purchased 2018
I love my Tobii Eye Tracker 5 ! Was lucky to find a preloved, hardly used for half the price :) It's great (most of the time) I'm not a VR person, so this is close enough for me :)
Jonathan. Thanks for your insights and thoughts on the Tobii5. I’ve followed the development of VR for many years but I don’t believe the technology is yet able to deliver what it promises. It’s certainly not affordable in IMHO. At £230 the Tobii5 promises to deliver the immersion without the need to wear a heavy headset or break the bank. Mines on its way from Netherlands. I’ll let you know how it goes when I have a few flights under my belt.
literally, I’m not playing the MSFS but I love watching your videos you are a ( lovely man ) and I hope you doing great .. i’m playing x plane mobile, and I learned a lot of things from you ❤❤❤❤❤
Cheers :)
Nice job of showing what it can do and is like to use. I do wish it was considerably cheaper.
Thanks for watching!
Congratualtions on your upgrade !. I love my Tobi Eye Tracker. For me personally it is a vast improvement over Track IR. Of course tech advances through the years, and no disfavour to Track IR which is still an excellent product for many users, and certainly it is just as innovative. But step forward a few years and Tobi have brought us a product which is simple and very effective for MSFS. I used Track IR for a while but found it a little unstable in its tracking in some instances. Tobi which has both eye and head tracking is much better for me. But you do have to make sure you adjust your Tobi Sensitivity settings, to suit your own preference, otherwise maybe a a bit of motion sickness or certainly a feeling of uneasiness may creep in on a long flight in the simulator. But actually this can settle down as your brain learns this new device. Just be aware to adjust your sensitivity to be at comfort with the device. It certainly adds to the immersion within the simulator. People often ask about the "flicker" form the Tobi sensors, but no, it does not bother me. Sometimes the flicker was seen, because of camera or mobile phone cameras that You Tube content users use to record the use of this product, and inherent syncing as they record the Tobi. When you actually use it yourself its not an issue that affects me. Overall an excellent and immersive product.
Great feedback - thank you.
I have both also and also not going back to Tracker (hat clip is now thankfully gone as is the cheap infrared camera). There is more for you to cover Jon. The two keyboard/yoke button controls; pause and reset center view. The latter has been problematic for me, but you seemed to have no issue, but I would like your take. Also I would like see your take on the sensitivity adjustments when you have had a chance to get familiar with them. I find the Tobii software be underdeveloped to some extent. The key pitch and yaw are combined in the same control, here are no sensitivity curve adjustments only linear +/-; a couple nits like that. All that said, The Tobii combined head and eye tracker with no headpiece is a whole new level of technology that is, in a word, fantastic!
This was just a first look - I'll do several big jet flights, where it will come into it's own working around the cockpit during start-up, and will do a look-back after a few days too.
I Like your Mug and Im Impressed with the Tobii. Thanks
Cheers :)
Thanks Jon, I bought one and can't imagine flying without it now.
I recommend turning off eye tracking and only using head if you additional screens for maps etc. as I found it jarring jumping between screens using only your eyes. It's a fantastic device though, I much prefer it over TrackIR. As someone else mentioned, the only thing it lacks in MSFS is a pause function so you can lock your view on a specific instrument for example.
Since you seem to be an experienced MSFS user, would you please take the time to read my comment and offer your opinion to my question. Thank-you.
I read your comment and replied - please don't spam other conversations.
@@jonbeckett : Will do sir, and I'm sorry for appearing discourteous, Thank-you for explaining the rules.
If you do use Tobii you will get a much better response from a USB 3 powered hub over a USB2 powered hub. Love mine to bits, though a toggle to disable can be very useful for some more complex aircraft for individual switch operation. I don't want to fly without mine and compared to TrackIR is a much preferable solution for day to day usability and longevity too. No bits to fall off, catch or break. Love it.
I have it plugged into a USB3 port - it's rock solid - very smooth.
Since you seem to be an experienced MSFS user, would you please take the time to read my comment and offer your opinion to my question. Thank-you.
Been using one of these for about 18 months now and I've had no issues whatsoever with Tobii and Microsoft Flight Sim, best £200 I've spent.
I will say this however, with DCS World (which isn't natively supported like MSFS and requires use of the Tobii Gamehub software) I had much better results with FaceTrackNoIR instead of the Tobii software. Only caveat is having to uninstall FacetrackNoIR when I'm using MSFS due to it thinking it's a TrackIR unit.
I use it now for one year and yes it’s worth the money.
One consideration, manipulation of buttons and special turning is not always easy. What i mis is the possibility to frees the possition in thease situations. The frees possibility now resets the view. (Sorry for bad englisch)
With track-IR you geth that possibility
Could you show us more of your set up? Flight controls, throttle, computer? Would love to see a set up video!
I probably have a lot less setup than most - but yes - certainly will think about it. All I have is a stick and throttle quadrant, a streamdeck, and the tobii eye tracker. I use a boom microphone because it's better sound quality than a headset.
Hey Jon ! Not only are you technically talented (among things) but good looking as well :) Can you play some music as well, wouldn't be surprised
I can :)
I like my Tobii for taxi and cruise. It can be a challenge to flip switches with a mouse while looking at the panels. Looks like I need to revisit the settings and try fine tuning.
great device - maybe not a "must have" but absolutely a "hell it would nice to have".
I guess theres a new entry on my "if there ever will come a gratification again"- wishlist.
I got the TrackIR and use it with a baseball cap. Would be nice to have a system where I wouldn't have to put that on anymore. Might look into this later or if my TrackIR suddenly breaks or something.
I think it’s amazing. For $279 I think it’s worth it. Wow, so blown away.
I'm surprised just how good it is.
That price must be in the states?
Whaaaaaat face reveal!! Great video, i think i want a tobii now (:
Well.. my avatar is just a photo of me in the kitchen, so not a surprise :)
I'd really like to see a comparison between the Tobii and the TrackIR with the pro clip. I have some issues with the trackIR like the sensor placement on a thin monitor, wire on the headset which could be easily adapted to battery, and the IR being masked by head turns (specifically left view) but it still works all these years. Sadly TrackIR just hasn't improved anything in the last 15 years, and the alternatives using modern tech could make it obsolete.
Hey look up Grass monkey Head tracker . Thats what I use and love it. Far cheaper than Track IR
I have used both and settled on the TrackIR for its sensitivity and accuracy. I certainly converted my Track IR to battery using a couple of 18650 Lithiums and a small circuit to drop to 5v. It lasts at least 36 hrs continuous before swapping the batteries out of the case (about 10-14 days irl use). I use a high quality wireless headset so I am free to walk away from the controls and get a cuppa without issue. As for the head turn you need to play with your speed and movement settings more, as the masking only occurs if you head goes past where it would in real life and the speed setting adjustment will fix that to the setting which suits your head turn. They don't need to change a thing in my opinion - "if it ain't broke etc". They regularly update the game profiles also. As for placing on a thin monitor Blutack is your friend.
I'm impressed 👍
I use mine for mostly head tracking and a just a touch of eye tracking enabled.
Nice to see you Johnathan 😂 I have a 49in Samsung curved Monitor Tobii eye tracker 5 works great. Tobbi says eye tracking up to 32in monitor but in the cockpit everything working very well saying that for take off and landings I turn it off
My favourite aircraft MSFS - FlightFX Cirrus SF50 Vision Tobii very very good I've just purchased PMDG DC 6 I don't use Tobii eye on dc6 only because the dc 6 is a vast learning curve I use preset instrument views for the time being . Anyone on the fence buy it my VR head sets in the cupboard one final thing it so easy to set up and adjust and I am 75 yr old I hope this helps subscribers
I have both Track IR & the Tobii Eye Tracker and prefer the Tobii. I just wish they had a keyboard shortcut to disable the infrared beams. Every time I switch to VR, I forget to turn the Tobii off with the Tobii software and burn my retinas out as soon as I put the Oculus on and look at the monitor. Then I have to take off the headset, find the Tobii control panel, and disable it. Would be so nice to just have a keyboard shortcut.
Can you not set a hotkey to disable the IR from within the tobii software? If that's the case, this a no go for me and stick to my trackIR.
@@SolRayz You can set a MSFS 2020 keyboard command to "toggle head tracking" but that just gets MSFS to ignore it as a tracking device. It doesn't turn off the infrared eye-tracking LEDs on the front of the Tobii, and they really shine through the Oculus Quest when you look at them. It's fine for temporarily getting rid of head tracking in the sim, when not in VR mode though. I just always forget that Tobii is even there. I need a "prep for VR" checklist" lol..
I have the Tobii and G2. I use the Tobii 90% of the time because its so much easier to deal with. I would rate it at five stars.
I also thought it was a bit pricey at first. Then I tried it! Definitely worth the investment.
Track IR works well for me. . . Except for the need to totally sanitize the work station environment for things like lamps and windows letting sunlight in. The other stuff, calibration and the need to wear reflectors or light sources on your head, are totally manageable.
I'm surprised how well Tobii works without any of that.
Have you had a chance to test it with an airliner model like the PMDG or Fenix? I'm curious how it works with the overhead panels.
Funny you say that - next on my list :)
To look up at overhead panels from default cockpit view means moving your head up so much it becomes uncomfortable. To avoid this, it is necessary to increase the sensitivity, so that small head movements result in larger movement on screen, but the trade off is that for normal viewing around the cockpit, the sensitivity being higher will result in too much movement on screen unless you keep almost still. It is better to hotkey an overhead view first, then continue with the tracker, then reset cockpit view to default via F12 or whatever key you assign.
Great video. What are the final settings that you are currently using?
I left it pretty much stock.
Looks epic on long nose tail dragger warbird taxi runs too. Won't work on Xbox (no USB certification chip?), so I would need to buy a high end PC to get this, I fear... Would enable more hardware and other software integration, but would be a lot of money and getting the attic ready... 🙄
Jonathan, I was Hoping you could do a test and close one eye and see what happen for people who only have one eye
I'll try that on the next video.
@@jonbeckett thanks Mate, from the land down under
Can tell you that it is brilliant and no worries whatsoever.
Hi Jonathon, enjoyed your video on the Tobii 5. I'm using now in preference to my Aero! But how do I configure the keys to start / stop tracking? I've only got Sensitivity settings available. Thanks
Nice looking guy you are, Jon. Teehee!! ;)
Oh shush :)
I bought one about a year ago. It kinda works but I got bad headaches while using it. I couldn't get rid of it quick enough. Perhaps someone is enjoying my 'preloved' tobi...
What's the advantage of eye tracking over just head tracking ? Head tracking is awesome in GA, not so much in tubeliners except on approach and landing, but I do have problems keeping my head still enough to hit small buttons and knobs with the mouse, especially if there's any turbulence.
Yep - I've learned very quickly that moving your head closer to the panels is the trick. Eye tracking makes the camera centre on where you're looking with your eyes.
Excuse my ignorance but is the Tobi compatible with Xbox and/or PC. Looks like a great piece of equipment. I have Xbox and am planning on getting it soon.
As far as I'm aware, it only works on PC.
It would be a massive benefit if one could pause the view at any point like one can with trackir. This it’s it’s only downfall imo. However I do use it most of the time, but when setting up a mcdu etc I use fixed views via hot keys as any movement makes it very difficult to input flight plans details etc.
He literally does this exact thing in this video. 5:00
That is a big plus of Track IR as you have pointed out when switching to fixed views, I do that combined with a Stream Deck to switch views and then button the command makes flying so enjoyable in DCS and FS20.
@@joyceracing99interesting, I saw that, but when I’m looking at say the mcdu, and need to pause the view for programming, if I then switch off tobii as in the video via a hot key on my yoke, the view returns to default cockpit view, meaning I have to use the mouse etc to return to the view I was using before turning it off, trackir pauses the view at the very point the pause is requested. Am I doing something wrong then?
@@peterellis49 Must be the using the wrong method/keybind to pause the tracking, because when he paused it stayed exactly where he was looking. He used the Scroll Lock key, but it's possible he rebound it to a different function in the MSFS controls page.
@@joyceracing99 yes I saw that, but there is no way to be able to freeze the view, it’s either on or off, when it’s off it defaults to centre, there are lots of comments about this on msfs forums, simmers crying out for a freeze function as is trackir. There is no freeze function built into the tobii software, therefore it’s impossible to bind a key.
Hi there. Thank you for the video. Quick question. I work on PCs all day every day my hands are killing me since I use them all the time, I am thinking of using this device to control the mouse with just my eyes. Is this a good option to do it? Can I click with the eyes as well, if can only move the mouse it will be good help. I do need to move the mouse with precision though. I do engineering design. Thanks!
I am sooooo tired of the issues I have with my trackIR. This device keeps popping into my feed as if the Simulation Gods are smiling down on me saying "here friend take it, its good"
3:40 the trackIR does not allow one to use the keyboard so this is a huge plus. Also you are moving so much and the view stays steady. With trackIR you are stuck in this little window of movement you are allowed or the sensors lose connection and the view goes swinging wildly making the whole experience feel so constricted with trackIR on your head.
Hi Jonathan, could I ask what resolution your monitor is please?.
I bought mine on a 20% sale, they do have those sales from time to time. I had the TrackIR before this, and it works well. But I found it annoying to have to put something on my head, as I usually don't use headset but rather speakers for my sound. It also is affected by sunlight, where in certain times in the day the sun would hit my window in just the right place where even curtains couldn't block it, and then the trackIR went stupid and was unable to track anything regardless of filter settings. It is also worth noting that there are still issues with TrackIR, especially with drifting requiring frequent recentering, but it seems Naturalpoint has pretty much abandoned all development on the product as there haven't been any updates in years, v5.4.2 was released in 2016.... The Tobii is way better in this regard, holds center quite well, doesn't require you to use anything on your head, it's almost immune to sunlight, it's a way better solution.
You mentioned it is on sale occasionally. How often does that happen because it is too pricey.
@@j_london9791 I dont know specifically how often, but it's usually around common sale days like Black Friday, Christmas, etc. Sometimes its 10% off, sometimes its 20% off.
Bought this more than a year ago for a lot less money from Tobii direct so not sure what the £279 is about. It also works a lot better if you turn off eye tracking in FS, and just use it as a head tracker.
My understanding is that Tobii is limited to the size of the monitor. My monitor is a 45 inch curved. Tobii say I believe is limited to a 27 inch. My question is will it work on my 45 inch?
Good question. I have about a 34" screen I think ? It works fine.
When you look up, down, left, right, back, surely you will be actually doing just that and no longer looking at the screen. How does that work out if you are now staring at your ceiling, walls or your feet ?? I don't get it.
You can calibrate it, so looking 20 degrees in reality = 90 in the aircraft. It's surprising how quickly you adjust to it.
@@jonbeckett Thanks Jon, I was just curious about that. It looks awesome though. I have a Quest 2 but never use it as it's such a pain to setup, cable, uncomfortable etc.
This looks amazing. How much is the impact on your computer system?
I have used the Tobii for about a year and I can detect zero impact on performance. 👍
It's all done in hardware on the tobii - it doesn't stress the computer at all.
What happens on the outside cam views??..is tracker off?..can you move cam view by where you are looking?
Yes - you can look around on the outside views too. I'll show more in the days ahead.
I’ve got a massive TV as a monitor & I sit fairly close to it. Would I have to sit a fair way back for the eye tracker to work? Or can the tracker be mounted at the base of the monitor?
The eye tracker mounts at the base of the monitor. I have a 32" monitor, which is about on the limit, as far as I am aware.
@@jonbeckett that’s good to know, thanks. Final Q I promise - do you prefer VR or the Tobii?
@@ArrRoh VR is much better - but requires twice the hardware + a headset that costs half as much as the hardware.
Given the cost, would you rather have rudder pedals or the eye tracker for experiencing more immersion?
I still don't have rudder pedals, so that's difficult for me to answer :)
As a TrackIr user, I'd go with head/eye tracking all the way.
Please help me to understand the concept. Let’s say you have a single screen in front of your joystick and flight controls. You then add the eye tracker. When you look left, right, up, down, etc, the eye tracker senses those eye movements and moves the view on the screen correspondingly. But the screen is still sitting in the same place in front of you! So although the view moves when you look in another direction, you still have to look back at the screen to see anything. When you move your vision back to the screen in front of you, doesn’t the view move back to facing forwards?
Broadly speaking, the position of your head controls the camera direction. You can calibrate it, so 30 degrees of lateral rotation (for example) results in 180 degrees of camera rotation - so you can still look at the screen with your eyes, but see behind you in the simulator. It takes some time to adjust to, but works well. The eye tracking can be thought of as a refinement - and you can adjust the bias - so the tracking will follow your head for gross positioning, but your eyes for fine tuning.
Many thanks, @@jonbeckett , that's very clear. I think we'd better give one of these devices a go!
Stop talking and take my money Tobii....🤣🤣. thanks for the video review
Nice one Jon. Now go amd try a loose formation flight. 'tis heavenly...
How does it work when you're turning base/final and you can't see the airport because the wing's in the way? Can you lean forward and look to the left to see around?
Yep - it tracks your head position as well as direction of view. If you really want to, you can lean out of the window :)
Does it work in external view?
They need to do this with real planes and pilots wearing head cameras and compare where their eyes are to simulator pilots.
Love my Tobii... replaced my TrackIR and not going back.
Fantastic.
It's the best head tracker for MSFS, I turned off eye tracking and just use head tracking, yeah its expensive but I bought it while it was on sale for 220gpb, user of led style of head tracker for years, tobii is much better.
Great feedback - thank you.
What i want to know is do they sell your ' eye data ' to third parties?
If I start seeing adverts from contact lens companies, I'll let you know.
How well does it work if you only have vision in one eye?
Apparently it's fine - I will test that though.
Do you use the Steam version or the Microsoft store version of MSFS?
Because I bought it on the microsoft store and no matter what I try MSFS just does not recognize my tobii ;-;
Microsoft Store. Did you ever have Opentrack installed? or any other head tracker? You need to completely remove them - check the registry, program files, etc. I previously had Opentrack installed, and it caused Flight Simulator to not see it. I removed opentrack, checked all the files were gone, rebooted, re-installed the drivers for Tobii, and then MSFS worked immediately. Worth noting - totally caused by OpenTrack, and the trail of destruction it left in the file system and registry.
Also worth noting - once working, to get it to do head tracking translation (moving around), I had to revert to the default keyboard template, and configure toggle keys for enable head tracker, and reset home cockpit view. Once done, it worked flawlessly.
I have it but I'm still trying to "turn it off" while tunning in frequencies for example. I'm not able to do it while the view keeps moving. While the centering button stops the movement while in the default view, I want to be able to freeze the view while looking at a side or overhead panel, click on something and turn it back on.
Can someone enlighten me on how to do this?
Unfortunately it isn’t possible, like it is in trackir, this is my only gripe. It’s either on, and therefore reacting to your head/eye movement or off, in which case it reverts to default cockpit view.
Can you turn it on and off? If you do a long flight, and sit back with the legs on the tabel and just Watch on you screen and se the flight go will? Beacus say if you sit back with the legs on the tablel and chill, and you body directon is to left, then you will see to left in the aircraft also, and then cant you see the panels and see that the flight go well! So then then i Ask again hahaha can you turn off and on the eye tracker when you want! Sorry for bad english haha
Yes. You can turn it off with a key press.
@@jonbeckett yes okei, thank you:)
Any suggestions for good settings?
I think it's best to stick with it for a few days - get used to it. I struggled at first. You need to give yourself time to adapt before you start fiddling with it.
@@jonbeckett Yeah it is a bit getting used to but it is worh it :)
The only reason i don't have it because i'm running a 49inch curved screen. And it is limited to certain screensizes, if i'm correctly informed
Otherwise a no brainer
I'm super impressed with it.
I'd like to add I use the tobii tracker on my 49" super ultrawide Odyssey G9 without any issues :) I don't know if this helps you decide or not. Cheers
That is good news ! I really thought it did not work then…I also have the G9
The reason I did not yet take the plunge to replace my TrackIR with Tobii is: several user reports mention that you can actually "feel" the IR emission in your eyes after a longer session. What is your experience here? Did you notice anything comparable?
This was my only experience so far - over the coming days and weeks I'll let you know :)
No you can not feel IR light
Do you have to wear anything as with Track IR ?
No.
This is a fail because it must be mounted on the BOTTOM of the screen. (Blocked by yoke) Only works on small monitors. Will not work on triple screens. Can’t wait till they develop this further.
They do state that it only works for a given range of screen sizes. I have a 34" screen, and it works fine.
Santa, are you reading this?
So, let me see if I have this right. If I buy a tobi I have to have you on my screen and i have to buy sunglasses and close the blinds and I can only see what your looking at :)
I have seen a number of demonstrations regarding this product. I'm happy with what I have seen
Would happily put aside money for its purchase. However for reasons not disclosed by retailers in New Zealand, Here, no-one stocks this product. Maybe its illegal here?
I could purchase through amzonon or the like however the freight cost lifts the unit price to almost double.
Thanks for posting the demo. Is it the same without eye track, just using head track?
i cant get tobbii to work with dcs
what screen size are using it on?
32" - which is the biggest they recommend - but I've seen people use bigger screens.
@@jonbeckett thanks
I bought a tobii 5,while it does give some immersion, awesome framerates, and superb visual on a 55" OLED and flexibility, it does NOT compare to VR, It's twitchy and the depth perception will have you porpoising down the runway until you crash using visual approaches.... i use it when the sim is updated and nobody else was informed and VR will make you sick
Yeah, but if you’re looking up, you can’t see the screen so there’s no point
You calibrate it, so a few degrees of head movement = many times more degrees in the sim. It's interesting how quickly your brain learns to use it.
А на xbox можно подключить?
No
No need for a hat clip? Hmm might have to retire my trackir.
I was surprised too - I had only used opentrack and smoothtrack previously - it's much better.
@@jonbeckett Critical question. Can you set a hotkey to pause the IR, and if so does the viewpoint revert back to center point, or stay put. In the position you paused it. . Essential for my purposes. .
@TheOccasionalPilotGB trackIR would do this in P3D, but does not in MSFS.
Neither, get a second hand VR reverb V2 headset for $300. Game changer, you will realize that head trackers etc are rubbish.
I've played with a V2 headset - my Dad has one. It's great, but not if you're using Navigraph, LNM, referring to checklists, or whatever else.
Gosh..you are a real figgit!
Great tool, but as always too expensive.
Horrendously expensive. Unless you get it for free.
I will admit - I would have found it hard to justify. If you compare it against the cost of VR though (and the requisite hardware to run VR), it's a good alternative.
It is cheaper than my rudder and probably would add more immersion than that. Everything is relative.
I have difficulty showing the very bottom of my cockpit.What am I doing wrong?
Nothing - it's one of the failings of all head-trackers.
Stop talking and take my money Tobii....🤣🤣. thanks for the video review
Cheers :)