First look at the Just Flight Black Square TBM 850 in Microsoft Flight Simulator
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- A first look and first flight in the Black Square TBM 850 in Microsoft Flight Simulator - starting the aircraft up from cold and dark, and taking it for a short flight from Wycombe Air Park to Elstree. Lots to learn, and lots to practice. Apologies for the abrupt end to the video - finding time to record at the moment is something of a struggle :)
Here's the checklist I used:
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Here's the checklist I used: ko-fi.com/s/f875ea2036
Your checklist is not good!
@@Sk-tb5ye It's a *functional* checklist - given the default starting condition of the aircraft, it performs the most basic steps to get it flight-ready.
Thanks for doing the flight test looking at getting the TBM.
Wouldn't be nice if when you zoomed into the yoke of faded away so you can see stuff behind it then faded back in when you move back.
Why is everybody previewing aircraft in dark and cloudy wearher, instead in high noon sunny day, so we can see gauges properly?
Already completed two flights with this plane. Definitely going to be one of my favorites.
Update: completed another flight just a bit ago. Man this plane is awesome. They did a fantastic job from top to bottom, and front to back. Unbelievable
Great showcase thank you! Looks like another addition to my hangar based on your videos! Its frustrating in a way as i am still learning how to fly but keep getting addon planes for the future!
Outside of being “study level”, what makes the TBM 850 substantially different from the TBM 930?
Instrumentation. The 930 is glass cockpit.
The reason the autopilot didn't activate right away is because it was going thru its self test when you powered it on
Plane is really fun to fly! Quality add on. Flight dynamics feel real and accurate. I like what justflight is doing with these quality aircraft. I'll keep buying if they keeps making aircraft like this.
Justflight sell it - Black Square developed it.
These Black Square dudes are the CHADS of Flight Sim
Think I've got my hangar sorted. Didn't think I'd enjoy another GA aircraft after the A2A launch of the Comanche 250, but I'm already loving this TBM 850. Think I'll use the TBM 850 for my longer flights, and reserve the Comanche 250 for when I do my local field hoping flights. The TBM feels great though, and it's A/P systems are very comfortable.
Are you going to activate failures like the comanche?
@@Glider324 yes, with the realistic failure rate setting as well. So likely won't see too many, but they can happen.
Same here, but add the F28 using radio nav only. Hoping that Just Flight will update the F28 to include failures.
And only 30 quid.
They are getting good. Beta range too. Is that a first in the sim ?
Hoping they do a Piper Cheyenne 😊
How come BS can model so many things but yet leave out wheel chocks, covers, Gpu and other goodies we get from an EFB? Also how do you set pax and fuel.. Hope not with MS default UI...
No matter how much hard work a developer puts in, people are always going to want more :) Black square is a lone developer :)
Is it kind of "normal", that the 750 doesn't sync the flightplan over to the G530? I noticed that shortly in the analog Bonanza as well.
Yes. It's normal. There are no interconnects between them.
I dont know how you dont get all those tile popping issues that are reported - maybe it just Bing where I am in Australia
It happens from time to time.
I just got the tbm850, but on level flight no wind has the tendency to bank on the left
Yep - that's caused by both torque from the engine, and the slipstream effect - rotating air leaving the propeller, and hitting the tailplane. You can trim it out.
Very interesting... It was so new it smelt like a new car !!!!! ... Seriously great video, remarkably accurate graphics and physics... Roger... Pembrokeshire UK
One disappointing thing i noticed, and I might be wrong but, it seems to me that the engine sounds are exactly the same used on the default TBM...
From the description on our product page: Black Square’s TBM 850 features a highly customised version of the MSFS-native (Wwise) 3D TBM 930 sound package, with many new handmade sounds added for warnings, environmental control systems, electronics and more. The default sounds have been carefully assigned to all interactable cockpit elements for an authentic 3D spatial audio experience and engine sounds have been integrated with Black Square’s turbine engine and propeller simulation.
Oh I see, my bad then. Didn't read it. Solid product tough, just got mine. @@justflight
In comparison look at FSR500.. That feels like a more complete addon in terms of user experience.. All the maintenance features are modeled..
Not quite their first model for MSFS, that's the Velocity XL. I love the Velocity, but it's probably too leftfield for most people (and not everyone likes all glass cockpits). This looks absolutely first rate, and the TBM is a favourite of mine as it has turboprop performance but still feels like general aviation.
Great plane. As you say, hi quality. I made my flight plan from LNM which went into the 750 but mine also did not carry over to the G530 like you experienced. Might be a bug or we may need to wait until WTT gets added to the 750. You forgot to turn on your YD in flight. Great video. Thanks.
You're absolutely right! Completely forgot the yaw damper :)
@@jonbeckett I was able to get the second G530 to show the flight plan by switching the G750 to the G530, wait for the flight plan to enter the second one and then switch back to the GTN750. I temporary workaround until they fix that.
on xbox?! never i guess
You can also touch the button next to the backdoor to have it closed. It's an awsome piece of simulated software. Well done Black Square! (already bought it day one ;) ) I've also noticed that when i fired up the engine to high idle, before turning on the switches the artificial horizon is already on and level on the right side, whilst the left is only starting to wobble.
Usually I don't care about GA, but this plane is some of the best fun I've had on any flight simulator ever. And it's only going to get better, there's apparently going to be a big update this week, with things like flight model improvements and better external lighting.
When you start an engine, don't just look at your NG. The most important indication is your ITT.Good luck virtual pilot.
I talked about the NG because the pilot operating handbook procedures use the NG as the trigger points for fuel - with NG percentages. Obviously a real pilot will be scanning all of the guages to ascertain engine behaviour :)
I just got the TBM850, just had to have it ! Thx for sharing Jon ! :)
Jonathan your tutorials are the best 👏👏👏
You're welcome :) Not the best - just useful :)
Thanks Jonathan for another great video. I really enjoy your reviews.
Johnathan. Thanks for your videos and information. Just got the TBM 850, awesome plane, just as described by you.. I have taken it on a few flights and have noticed that the EFIS Pilot compass at times gets descalibrated, as well as the heading bug. I don’t know if I am doing something wrong or is a problem with the way they operate. Would appreciate your opinion on this. Thanks
No - that's just the way they are in the real world :) Good to see it being simulated. The compass on the instrument panel is driven by a gyro - turns will cause it to drift. That's why there is a knob to adjust it - you check the whisky compass to correct it (or press D in the simulator)
Picked this up after seeing streams using it. It’s excellent
Jonathan please you can insert subtitles thanks 😀
RUclips does that itself.
Sounds are default but is really good
Hey Jon! Another great video thanks a lot!!
Need your help, can't get my GTN 750 to work. When selecting Radio Master to ON only the GNS530 and the KX155 work. Am I missing something?
I'll take a look when I get a chance - I don't typically use the GTN 750.
@@jonbeckett found it, my bad, did't knew I had to install it..That's what happens when you don't read the manual lol
Black square are smashing it with these planes. Wonder what’s next on there hit list.
The Duke :)
My larger center screen is not coming on. The small garmin to the right is on, but the one you are typing into isnt on. I followed all of the initial checklist. Did I miss something?
Radio power switch ? (at the bottom of the co-pilot instrument panel)
@@jonbeckett So that caused the 530 to come on in the middle, but the 750 wont come on. So now both of the units are the 530 and lit up.
@@jay-rus4437 Might be a stupid question, but have you got either the PMS50 or TDS product installed? (The TBM doesn't come with a GTN 750 included, it just lets you use one if you have it.)
@@richavery66 …..gotcha. No, I didnt realize that. No wonder it wasnt working. I went and installed the PMS50
if you have your flight plan saved in the world map it appears in the two garmins
I very rarely use the world map - but that makes sense.
do you know to get the GTN750 from PMS50 properly integrated, especially Working Title Technology? If that doesn't work, it would be a total failure, at least for me
Thanks for Tips
Is the version built into the aircraft not the PMS GTN 750 ?
The literature from Just Flight says it works with both the PMS50 and TDS GTN 750s. (just like the other Black Square airplanes)
PMS50 WTT coming soon according to their discord site.
@@GumperVanLier thanks fot the Ínfo
My center display doesn’t come on automatically like yours did how do i turn it on?
I might have left it on last time I was in the plane - I think this one "remembers". By centre display, do you mean the weather radar ?
@@jonbeckett no the screen above it where you program the flight plane with touch screen
@@jonbeckett i just got the plane and I’m having all kinds of problems haha i can’t get the ap to follow the rout to save my life i have to fly in heading mode
@@jonbeckett i figured it out i had to download the garmin 750 mod. Now im loving the plane haha. I’m about to hit 200 hours on virtual flight 😃. Thanks for all your videos if it wasn’t for you i would have never figured out how to fly none of these planes haha
Thanx
I couldnt open the marketplace ? but the plane looks cool
It's not in the marketplace YET.
Is there a way you could Make this video less dark?
It was just the cloudy conditions on the day - there is a subsequent live stream where it's much brighter :)
Cant wait to get my hands on it
first time long time. love your videos.
how is stall recovery on this plane for you?
Good first landing. Well done.
A bit heavy, but didn't anticipate quite such bumpy conditions :)
what do you do about reverse propellers.
Configure your controller appropriately :)
Waooow!
love your reviews mate! way to go!
Glad you like them!
Nice landing !!!
A bit heavy, but not bad given the conditions, and a first landing! lol (Why do I keep doing these videos unrehearsed ? lol)
@@jonbeckett Why, why!?? Lol.... I was shocked to find out that you have over 600+ freaking videos!! And you have a full-time job? And kids? And you exercise? Really? Me thinks you have a twin mister.
Great plane and great tutorial! Mine is not activating the HDG in Autopilot. Why might be happening? Thanks!
Same..it's strange because i followed the instructions
@@arkoh4809 me too… let’s wait and see if there’s a clue.
There are a few odd things going on with the Autopilot. The documentation talks a lot about the guidance systems - worth a read.
@@jonbeckett AP working well now. I updated the latest patch of "WT GNS530 Compatibility". I read in the manual that the AP can be affected by both GTN 750 and GNS 530 if they are not properly updated. Thanks for your help!
@@jonbeckett Now I’m facing another difficulty. The VOR set in PMS GTN 750 is not being recognized for course (the HSI shows distance, but the bearing doesn’t work. :(
All of their planes have the same generic feel.
Try to use clear day next time and not such a dark day so I can hardly see the interior. That should be automatic if doing a review.
I almost always go with live weather.
@@jonbeckett I get it, but for a review, the focus should be on the plane, not on the weather. The video of cockpit is extremely dark