Are You REALLY Lucid Dreaming? (How to Spot Fake Lucid Dreams)
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- Опубликовано: 21 апр 2023
- re you sure you're having REAL lucid dreams? Discover the surprising truth about FAKE lucid dreams and learn how to tell the difference. In today's video, we'll tackle one of the most confusing topics for beginners learning how to lucid dream, answering the question, "Was that a lucid dream?".
Understanding the distinction between false lucidity and a true lucid dream is crucial for beginners, and will help you unlock the incredible world of lucid dreaming.
In this easy-to-follow guide, I'll share practical methods and techniques to overcome this common lucid dream problem. Don't miss this essential beginner's guide for mastering the art of lucid dreaming!
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Excellent vid! I often have dreams where I say to myself "it doesn't matter, this is just a dream" but in a lazy way without becoming lucid, so this vid definitely speaks to me.
I must share a relevant dream from a few weeks ago (in short form!) that nearly ended up a fake. I see this guy sat at the bar on his phone, recognise him from somewhere, yes that youtuber Daniel Love. I want to talk to him about LD but think the approach might be rude and maybe he doesn't want to do shop talk. But then he turns to talk to me, wants my feedback on a video and he shows me on his phone. The vid starts glitching and it reminds me of a vid he did once with a deliberate glitch to check if the audience was paying attention... I must do a nose pinch, that way he'll see me and know I'm an LD'er and I'll pass the test. He sees and says hey you're a dreamer, and I feel proud. But something is off. Do it again, hey I can breathe! Proceed to think, this is perfect the very man himself is here, I can now get some advice on a game plan! (i.e. I'm not 100% "online" yet) Thankfully I catch myself, remind myself he's not real and I must recall my rehearsed goals. Look up and he instantly disappears and off I go and complete my primary goal.
Firstly, thanks so much for the very kind super thanks Aquacruisedb, hugely appreciated.
And also what a dream! I love those crazy dream logic scenarios - btw, for future reference, if you run into me, I will always ask you to perform a reality test! (if I don't you're definitely dreaming!).
Dream me seems to have been busy recently - but I'm so glad you managed to shake of the brain fog and achieve your dream goal
Stay awesome and stay lucid!
I did find myself from time to time, “tuning out”, with my mind wanting to get distracted and “multitask”, but at least I caught myself and backed up the video when I caught myself doing that.
I've had dreams in the past where I only realized in retrospect that they were fake lucids and not real lucids. With some of them, I accepted too easily that I was dreaming, which is already a red flag. When I have a real, fully lucid dream, I question it thoroughly, even if I'm already sure I'm dreaming, and that critical awareness then continues into whatever I'm doing with the dream.
In waking life, retraining my brain to leave the realm of autopilot is an ongoing battle.
It's definitely difficult - the brain wants us to be on autopilot as it conserves resources, so we're essentially battling a natural tendency.
Does DILD methods really efficiently work? I only had success with WILD methods.
I'VE HAD FOUR FALSE LUCID DREAMS!! My first lucid dream, a few days ago, was like a half lucid dream!
I kept having false lucid dreams and I knew they were false because I never did what I kept telling myself I would do if I was lucid
Hopefully this video will help you convert those into true lucidity!
This happen with me couple of time. When something does not make sence. Then a thought hit my mind . then I know I am dreaming. I my dream when I consciously try to move my hand I feel like something is opposing me like require more force to move my hand. Same with speaking when I try
I've been having a lot of fake lucid dreams and in them I would just randomly go "hey, I'm dreaming!!" Out of nowhere, for no reason
Thanks for the clarification you really do clear every person's doubt
I have tried lucid dreaming back in 2021 and I think I might have had one of these, but hopefully I won't have such problems with it now that I got back into it
Don't panic, no not yet. I know I- wait, I got distracted by song lyrics from just a single saying? Darn, I really need to work on that! And I thought I was doing well with noticing when I was getting distracted! Oh well, more reason to test anyway.
The several false lucids I've had (and that I can remember clearly) have been weird and eye opening to say the least. In normal lucids, I'm a lot like myself in waking life - anxiety, nervousness, and frustration still do get to me, even though I do try to calm myself down. This differs in false lucids to the point where I have almost no anxiety, no negative feelings. While I still struggle with my goals in lucids, the false lucids I have have greater control and goals are accomplished. It's almost like how I would imagine myself to be in a "perfect" lucid dream.
It makes sense that these experiences are similar to daydreams as I do often daydream about dream goals and how I would ideally react in them. It's close to what I thought was happening in these - that my brain was acting with how I would like to and just runs with it. I'm more calm, peaceful, and very clear minded in false lucids but very one track. There's a shell there but nothing inside, even if they are acting like how I would want to act.
This video was awesome and something I would like to revisit/rewatch again while examining my clear false lucids. They've always held a place in my mind of something interesting but I've never had anything scientist to view them through before. Thanks for this great video!
Thanks Stumped, always appreciate your comments. And yes, don't panic, just notice and learn from these things. It's an ongoing battle, but one that is inevitably good for us :)
I’ve had a few of these in the past, but thankfully i had a few lucid dreams before the fake lucids so was able to distinguish the difference.
Many thanks for another video Daniel.
When I was younger I loved the idea of lucid dreaming. But I didn't have any real structure to my life. Now that I'm older and have structer, I'm finding it easier to get invested in lucid dreaming and preform reality checks, and write down my dreams daily. ANd through it all your content has helped me a lot.
Though I'm still probably going to use it for self-indulgent behavior, I'm only human, and I'm no zen master. That may be the wrong attitude, but it's mine. And I wanna do cool stuff and eat tasty food without the calories darn it.
i think you just solved my biggest mistake daniel, thank you SO MUCH. i quit because i thought i was having real lucid dreams and i still couldn't control them as much as i should have controlled them. even tho a long time ago i commented about this problem and u replied 'you wasn't having a real lucid dream' and i was just confused because my definition of lucid dreaming was only knowing that you're dreaming. now i know how to really have a real lucid dream where nothing can restrict you but your mind. the next lucid dream i will have hopefully it becomes a true one and i will come back and edit my comment if it worked.
finally! Someone talking about fake lucid dream!
This is a topic that has made my head spin on more than one occasion. I think it’s hard to articulate what it is (at least it is to me), so thank you for this video. I particularly appreciate the “conversation” analogy.
At least you didn't just hear blah blah blah all the way through and spend the time daydreaming about kittens!
@@LucidDreamPortal Hmm... What? You were saying something, I think.
@@LucidDreamPortal No, definitly not, why would we... Ooooooh. Kitties!
wow the moment you started talking what you mean by autopilot i noticed that i woke up and became much aware of myself.
i went to sleep.....then i was dreaming.....then i went to sleep in the dream......i had a lucid dream in the dream(was aware and doing my dream goal)......i woke up from the lucid dream in the normal dream(false awakening i guess?) then woke up in real life.
preety good experience overall👍
Thanks for the amazing video! I have had a few fake lucid dreams in my life.
Amazingly explained 👏
Thank you for making this video! I actually made a reddit post about this exact phenomenon a few months back. It was when I had my first lucid dream when I started practicing, and to be honest it felt like a letdown, because it so thoroughly didn't feel like I was actually there, and it felt like the lucid aspect was part of the plot of the dream, or "a dream about lucid dreaming". I had had a few lucid dreams in the past before I started practicing and I knew something was off, it didn't feel the same, but I'm so glad to hear from you that it is a real phenomenon. Thanks again!
Really glad you found it helpful. You're definitely on the right track, these are normally the first signs that true lucidity is on its way! :)
Very practical, yet, very insightful. Thank you, Daniel!😊
love the vids it helps me with my lucid dream practice
Im very present when i look your Videos,nice work and thanks !
I’ve actually had one of these before! Thanks for the talk it was interesting to hear.
Has been happening alot recently, great video
I love this video! I have never heard of fake lucid dreams before. I learnt a lot from this video, thank you.
Wow, that was a very informative video and has re-sparked my interest for lucidity. I always suspected something of this notion, but had never seen it laid out so clearly. Because I noticed that there was an inconsistency with such a sacred, high level of consciousness, present, awareness practice such as Lucid dreaming. There were too many people claiming they could do it or they would say there dreams were lucid, when they themselves really did not seem to fit the bill of what one would expect from a person who could actually Lucid Dream. When everyone can do it so easily it loses its value. Hard work is what separates the true seekers from most people.
Basically you highlighted the hard work part and for that I am very thankful 🙏 🙌 Doing things the right way and appreciating the effort is what life is about, in my opinion.
Thank you so much this was my main pro for over 2 months
Great Video, so many lucid dreaming you tubers get this wrong. NO wonder why people may get disappointed about lucid dreaming when they thing a fake lucid dream is a real one.
Thank you so much, this is amazing! This is easily one of my favorite lessons - it's really about our attitude towards life. Thank you!
Super thanks 👍
Does anyone else get like a weird sense of awareness when finding out ur dreaming
Ok, now *THIS* is helpful
Utterly excellent! 🔥🔥🐉
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I've had several really interesting false lucid dreams! Can't wait to see if what I've thought of them have been true or twaddle!
Ah yes the phone, I've been playing with my phone non stop for YEARS. Only a week ago I refused to scroll down my phone mindlessly because I've heard about something like 'dopamine addiction' and how it screws up my whole life in general. And now I'm watching a video about you talking about being on autopilot with the cursed phone lol! Synchronicity much?! 😆🤪🤪
One thing I’ve noticed is I’ve never picked up my phone in any of my dreams? I went back to this video because I woke up this morning and had a lucid dream which I couldn’t tell if it was fake or not. However it’s pretty interesting how I’ve never dreamed about my phone and I’m sure most of us don’t - I’ll be researching into that. As always, thanks for the video! 🎉
I had a lucid dream last night thx to a video u made that really helped❤
I have, yes... I think I should perform a reality test right now, before watching any further.
9:46 im learning to, but at the time you asked the question i was present, but i find myself either wandering alot or focusing alot. If i don't understand anything i rewind the video. But you cant rewind reality, so yeah.
This is a nice video I have a lot of false lucid dreams like I low-key know it's a dream but I still follow the plot of the dream
I had alot of fake lucid dreams, if I never watched this video I couldve still have put "LD" in my fake lucid dreams thank you!!
Thanks 🎉 ive recently have been having fake lucid dreams this video helped out alot but even if i do a reality check in the dream i dont fully relize its a dream once i did my whole plan for when im lucid in fake lucid dream 😂
Great vid
Very interesting video Daniel ;) i have had fake lucid dreams before but i was not exactly in the dream as myself or anyone else, i was more like spectating my dream from a third person perspective. I was seeing was was going on but i did not felt it as real as a normal non-lucid dream because i was just spectating it. The feeling was weird when i woked up from it though.
I even haven't had a fake lucid dream it seems...
I had a false lucid dream a few weeks ago. I’m excited to see what that means 😅
Thanks.
I'm here because I had to prove that I was conscious and paying attention.
I had a dream about what it is like to lucid dream, so I was trying to do crazy things to achieve flight and looking rubbing my hands together because those are things that I've heard people do in lucid dreams. Very annoying lol
I had a fake lucid last night where I realized I was dreaming and then I proceeded to kneel on the grass and take a big bite out of it. 100% lucid and rational lol
Was the grass greener on the other side?
I recognise that voice in the outro!
This whole lucid dreaming lark is bonkers!
I have been taking the things said in this video into consideration when it comes to a dream i had tonight, but i can't figure out if I were lucid or not.
In case someone can tell me if the dream was lucid or not I'm going to write my dream down:
I woke up in my bed early this morning and immediately did a reality check. I had approximately 10 fingers on each hand and understood that I was not actually awake. I was in a dream. One of my dream goals were looking at my reflection in the mirror because I've heard that you see a different version of yourself. So I stood up from by bed and started to walk towards the bathroom. In the doorway into the bathroom stood my mom. I talked a little with here before I went straight into a new, non-lucid dream. I never even got into the bathroom to look at my reflection. But I did do multiple reality checks before fading into the new dream. The new dream was about me going on a trip to a strange school.
What do you think? Was I ever lucid?
Good to know my fake lucid dreams mean something.
I actually had a dream this morning (after trying your breaking the circle tecnique) where I was aware that I was dreaming. However, I ended up in a loop of returning to my bedroom. A sort of false awakening loop. Could this have anything to do with lucidity? Also, I've had dreams where I still have what I like to call "dream brain" after realizing that it was a dream. Sometimes, I'm even aware of this in the dream, but I can't seem to figure out how to leave this state.
Very interesting! I tend to peak and then drop like a heart monitor graph. I remember falling to the ground (from the result of a failed attemp of flying). I fell flat on my face on the ground bit didn't flinch ij the slightest. I found this really interesting that I knew that I could not hurt myself at all.
I seem to be a lazy lucid dreamer, even knowing I'm dreaming I like to engage in whatever is happening. I'm assuming this could be a bad practise in the long run mayb? Thanks again xx
This doesn’t happen to me too often, but it is annoying.
i just realized i had a fake lucid dream lol thanks!
Ive been “lucid” a few times but my sight is VERY vague and I barely see anything or I just can’t do anything. Last night I literally had such a clear dream and when I became “lucid” everything became vague and stabilization techniques made it worse
Nice video! btw what is your thought on wrild technique ?
It's just another of the somewhat idiotic endless made up ILDs out there. Basic rule that will save you headaches, if it ends with ILD and isn't something by LaBerge (and he only created one ILD technique, MILD), it's almost certainly 100% half-baked nonsense 🤣
No reasonable or professional lucid dreaming teacher would use ILD as a suffix, it's kind of the "tramp stamp" of lucid dreaming techniques and a good sign that the person who created it is only interested in borrowing LaBerge's credibility (in other words, they're starting from a point of deception)
I love you Daniel Love.
I’m aware 👍
I had a true lucid dream and tried to stablize it and woke up in a false awakening for my fist lucid dream, i know it was real but it was such a cool experince
nice vid
I had a fake lucid dream that I was in my house and didn't want to go fly outside because I was in my underpants
Until Now, I had countless times the conjunction of both (Lucid Dream + False Awakening). I totally enjoyed my lucid Dream as it gave me control over what I wanted to do, but after, it started irritating me as I tried to go back to my life as I didn't want to sleep so long, but what happened is I woke up on the same bed I check that yes this is really but again I get to know that it is false Dream, I have all the control my Dream except how to get out of it I have gone through 9 to 20 times the process of lucid Dream and false awakening starting my day with the same bed every time after realizing I am in Dream I do different stuff. Still, no matter how hard I try, I cannot escape it until my real-world friend wakes me up. Even then, I get confused about whether I am in a Dream or this is the real world.
nice
I had 2 fake lucid dreams 1 year ago or 2 and I got so frustrated I stopped trying. Now I want to start again but all of my progress is gone. Wish me luck.
You can do it, good luck!
I've had 5 lucid dreams so far and I'm pretty sure all of them were fake
You'll definitely know for certain when they're not. Generally, if in doubt, it's probably not a true lucid dream. But... the fake and pre-lucid dreams are a sign you're moving in the right direction :)
I'm having quite a few of these at the moment! And while I don't mind having dreams in which I talk about lucid dreaming, I get quite put off by those like the one I had last night. In the dream, I was walking on a street and started to notice some clear dream signs. So, I performed the nose pinch test. I could breathe and I told myself I was dreaming. Still, I wasn't convinced. It was almost as though I didn't "trust" myself. And this is the second dream of this kind I've had in the past two months. Why can't I just accept that I'm dreaming, and really become lucid? It's confusing and frustrating!
It will come with time, it's quite a major shift for the mind to accept the reality of lucid dreaming - even when we're right in the middle of one. We've had a lifetime of only accepting our experiences as reality, so give it time, soon you'll look back on this phase with fondness. For now, see it as a sign you're on the right track!
I had a dream where I noticed I was dreaming, did the tests. Decided I was in control, but then also decided that the dream was being pretty awesome before so let myself be taken with it. I do remember controling certain parts of it, just overall let the dream characters lead me. Or does it not count as a lucid dream if I don't try to control it.. 🤔 interesting.
i was thinking about fake lucid dreams and now i don't know if any dreams are truly lucid
I hope i will get a lucid dream tonight
When you have already experienced a real lucid dream, you can very much tell the difference between a fake and real
i will question if i am dreaming
I’m not 100% sure. I had a dream in front of my chicken coop and I did a reality check in I knew I was lucid dreaming. It felt a little weird and then reality stopped. I imagined it going normal again and it did. I walked a little forward when out of know where I was flung into the sky kind fast. I really want an explanation for this. Plz someone comment
Hi, I'm really trying to achieve my goal with the lucid dream for a very long time but my sleep schedule is not healthy. Do you think that this is the reason why I can't achieve my goal? Also yes sometimes I faced fake lucid dreams.
Yes, an unhealthy sleep schedule is one of the single worst things you can do for lucid dreaming. I'd highly recommend fixing that
Recently I have not been able to focus on MILD like I used to, I either drift off to other thoughts or don't put enough thought into it. Im not really sure why this is happening, I used to be able to do mild really effectively but now every time I've done it this week I drift off to other thoughts and fall asleep pretty fast even after staying up for a bit. Any advice would be appreciated
Normally this would suggest one of the following: stress or anxiety in waking life, poor quality sleep, a packed schedule, dietary or changes in exercise during the day, or potentially hormonal changes. Generally these things will pass, but if any of those ring true, that's likely your answer.
@@LucidDreamPortal Thanks, I definitely forgot about waking life and have been assuming it's something going on at night. But yea some things in my everyday schedule have changed recently which could totally be the problem, As for sleep schedule I fall asleep at the same time every night but I often sometimes sleep longer some nights because I sleep further into the morning, I usually thought all it would do would improve that specific night for lucid dreaming because I'm having more dreams, but could this be more of a negative?
Hey Daniel I was just wondering if you made the podcast member only? Because I have been looking for it and can’t find it. If it is member exclusive that’s fine just wanted to know if I missing something
Hi Ten,
Yes the podcast is now a member exclusive perk. But is also available for a small monthly subscription on Spotify.
You can find details here: www.thelucidguide.com/lucid-dream-podcast
As the podcast covers deeper content, closer to my books, and will be going even deeper in the future, its something that I do need to charge for (the joys of paying the bills!).
This will also allow me to explore topics in a more candid and frank way.
Season 2 starts next week, so hopefully that's inspiration to become a member 🙂
@@LucidDreamPortal thank you yeah I love you podcast
As I watch this video I notice you had a lot of zombies 🧟♂️ in it. Is there a connection because I've constantly dreamt about zombies since I was a teenager. 🤔
I have had fake lucid dreams before but the one i had this morning was confusing to me. I did a technique after wich i tried falling asleep. It took a while but when i did i started to see an agressive white flash en sharp noice. I was kinda scared for what was happening and then suddenly evrything started quikly looking like a random place in a dream. But i never checked if i was dreaning by reality check and i feel like i accepted evrything to quik. Also in the dream i was never verry aware and didnt control things. Im just confused as ive never really entered a dream and then it happens while im awake followed by a fake lucid dream
How many times you lucid dream every week 🤔
Number 4 will answer your question: www.thelucidguide.com/post/lucid-dreaming-frequently-asked-questions
God loves you
Which God? There are just so many to choose from.
Hey Daniel,
I just wanted your opinion on this.
If I became lucid in a dream, used my senses to stabilise and followed my own actions of what I wanted to do, but the dream feels fuzzy, do you think this is a lucid dream?
Yes, a lucid dream is not defined by how vivid the dream is, although most lucid dreams are incredibly vivid. Rather they are defined by mental clarity and the knowledge one is dreaming. It sounds like you became lucid as the dream itself was fading, which would account for the fuzzy aspect. Hope that helps.
I had a dream about lucid dreaming for instance i sayed to myself "I will lucid dream when i fall out of my bed." WHILE IN THE DREAM WHY! Not clear minded i guess...
i have a problem with my Lucid Dreams. i know when i got fake lucid dreams, thats when i realize i'm dreaming but going on autopilot so not doing much about it or sometimes thinking i change the dream by doing crazy stuff but my mind is a haze and i wake up very fast and its all fragmented lucid dream so maybe Thats a Fake Lucid dream. but my regular Lucid Dreams (wich is till this day still rare, but i'm getting there) have the problem that i waking up panicking because i dont know what to do when i'm lucid. its like, i am dreaming and then realizing i dont like the scene and its a nightmare and knowing its just a dream i panic and dont know how to change anything, but sometimes its just that i get way too excited over the dream and wake up in another dream. its so annoying to get lucid but then having zero controll over the dream because of panicking or excitement.
maybe, panicking in the dream is an indicator that it was infact NOT a Lucid Dream?!
anyhow, this video is good and got me thinking about it more.
also, i'm a cellphone zombie, i look at my phone the whole day and not beeing present in the moment at all. this video got my attention left and right but my mind is always wondering about stuff. i cant focus. maybe thats why i have zero control over my lucid dreams.
Meditation might help
@@OccasionallySmart i had a Lucid Dream last night. it was vivid and i did all the tips i remembered. doing multiple reality checks, and when the dream started to get fuzzy due to excitement or anxiety i rubbed my hands together and the dream became stable again. one test did not work wich never works (finger through palm) i also did the clockwork test (seeing how the time changes too fast) and also did the nose pinch test, thats when i realize it was all a dream. did not much interesting but talked to the dream characters and told them they were a part of my dream and it was hilarious but the dream felt very real but at the other hand Dreamlike (yeah, you know, because i knew it was not real it felt like the reality was off). it was fun to talk to my dreamcharacters and said they were all part of my subconcious lol. Before i was Lucid i could fly, so it was weird to try flying yet again after i flew the whole dream already. it was an intense dream, very vivid. i was also a bit scared or had a weird Uncanny feeling, i cant realy describe it very well. it was weird. its funny how the flying part was Before the Lucid Dream but then i got lucid and just talking to the characters lol
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first it was semi and now fake?
I cant give a donation. Google not work with donation🤕I'll give it when it works again
Don't worry too much about the wording, it's the concept that matters more :)
And no worries, I appreciate you wanting to donate, and thank you in advance!
@@LucidDreamPortalah i have 30 pre/fake lucid dreams in 5 months😵💫. I hope i get a full lucid dream soon
I'm sleeping somewhere else tonight so I'm going to sleep lighter and more likely to have a lucid dream. which technique do you recommend? would I be more likely to have a maintended awareness lucid dream? I have 1 more question: I used to have a semi lucid dream every other night. I now always have gaps in my lucidity. is this a beginner phase?
You'll probably find any focused awareness technique effective - so something like IMP would be a good starting point.
It sounds to me like you need to increase the awareness in your daytime practice - as outlined in the video, it's likely they've become a little autopilot.
But yes, it's very much a common theme for beginners. So don't panic
@@LucidDreamPortalthanks yes i am sometimes a panic bird sorry. google is not cooperating. i will send you a donation on patreon
I understand Jim, it's easy to panic with this stuff. But relax and remember this is a marathon and not a sprint, and take time to enjoy the journey.
And thanks again, just for future reference, here's the support page on the website (PayPal is the most efficient) www.thelucidguide.com/support
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Thanks.. i want to send you money but I don't have any online money or bank account
Well I appreciate the thought!
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Really appreciate you explaining things and putting my problems into words for me so I'm not just laying there confused in my bed.
Now I just need to deal with my breath holding automatically while focusing thats been carrying over to when I'm questioning if I'm dreaming and causing me to wake up.
Nice editing btw ☝
this is awesome, i mean i really thought i had multiple lucid dreams but now i know i had fake lucid dreams, thats why it felt like i had no control at all and just going with the flow of the Storyline, AMAZING recognition for myself, very important step of improving of course
I so often getting into autopilot at work. A lot of opportunities to get lucid in my waking life. 😂
On second place, videogames