And so proud over it. Also had momma protect her and stood infront of her and said no. And she didn't fail as a model due to it. And here she did it as payback for something she never did herself
And the sad part is, the ones who were the most nervous and terrified about it, but still did it, don't even make it to the house. What does that tell you? 🙄
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Your videos are HEALING for an entire generation of girls who grew up believing the BS that Tyra and the goof troop told the girls. That you need to accept abuse and go against your feelings to succeed, to "be on top"...you're a rockstar for this series. You are doing something so much more than making entertainment here.
This episode does demonstrate coercion very well; pushing past stated boundaries, offering "compromises", applying public pressure, and dangling the spectre of punishment.
One of the things that always irritated me about the surprise nude shoots was that when a girl objected, the show went out of their way to portray her as hyper-religious, prudish, childish, or overly conservative. In reality, they had boundaries and they had every right to refuse no matter the reason.
Mine was when Eva was terrified of spiders and they had to pose with a tarantula on their hands or face with jewelry… another one was when Chris didn’t want to go in the roller coaster cause she was mortified of being on a roller coaster but she did it while being terrified…
@@Philigirl2 i once saw a interwiev with a girl from that season and they had several spiders there becouse the girls got spoked dropped them and they died from it. They verry sensitive for that type of accident and you never lift them if not nessisary
I remember watching ANTM as a kid dreaming of being a model and these episodes always scared me because i thought that a surprise nude shoot would be expected and normal…
I think I just saw this same behavior on the documentary “Quiet on the Set” it constantly amazes me how society keeps moving the bar lower and lower. Producers, showrunners, higher ups just wanted barely 18 nudes, that’s all. This didn’t have anything to do with modeling, this was purely for some perverts spank bank
Jaslene was very rude to the girl who was really upset. Not everyone is comfortable being nude in front of strangers . And that girl was right, just because she's not comfortable with nude pictures doesn't mean she doesn't want this just as much as anyone else.
@@cocorush7349 You don't need to be religious to be uncomfortable being naked infront of strangers. People have morals and boundries outside of religion too.
@@cocorush7349everyone is different and has different things there comfortable with. Like I would have no problem being topless but fully nude isn’t something I would feel comfortable with. Even when I was younger and would wear bikinis I still always wore shorts over the bottom because even just being in the bottoms wasn’t comfortable for me
@@cocorush7349 it's like going into law school and going to sit in on a first interview with a serial killer on the first day, some are comfortable, some are not, for some it's not beneficial because they plan on not going into criminal law and it's really sad that they are being shamed and even judged for not wanting to sit with a serial killer
You know what I hear when Jay says, "You know it's going to affect your standing in the competition."? I hear, "You wanna be a star, don't you? Then take off your clothes!"
I love how Jay never gets the point. He knows this is not how you do this is the real modeling world, telling them seconds before a shoot they're going to be nude. And I'm sure they do wordplay in small letters in the contract. Even Tyra says she doesn't pose nude! She simulates it and they retouch it.
I’m a boudoir photographer and I work with plenty of models and clients who are comfortable shooting nude, but I would never, ever, ever force or coerce someone into shooting nude that isn’t comfortable doing so. And anyway, the photos probably won’t look great if the client/model is uncomfortable, so what’s the point?? It’s appalling that they got away with this. I used to watch ANTM religiously when I was younger. I can’t believe I never realized how awful the show is. I love your videos, btw!
It's not enough that they're being forced to expose themselves to an entire city landscape and a camera crew, made up of predominantly male camera operators, but having to do it in front of their fellow young female competitors too. We all know how b*tchy girls can be at that age and I have no doubt that there were whispers and giggles on the sidelines whilst some of the girls were doing their shoots. This can even be seen in Jaslene's behaviour towards the shoot, being icy and p*ssed off the girls who feels uncomfortable and saying the exact same thing and the photoshoot shoot directors, just because she doesn't care about shooting naked. All these poor naked and vulnerable young girls must've been feeling judged BEFORE the panel of 'esteemed' judges collaboratively rip into them about how they performed and degrade them on their final photo for thousands to watch on the telly. PLUS, the fact that this was their FIRST photoshoot so a lot of the girls probably hadn't established their confidence with their bodies and in their modelling abilities makes it sooo much worse. This is just wrong all round and I feel for these girls being coerced into this situation being told that they'll never go far and get anywhere in the modelling world if they don't do this. The whole shoot was just a "if Tyra says jump, who says how high?" situation to find out which models will be the easiest to manipulate into whichever bull they're planning to pull this season. Turns out years later it's the judges, creative directors and production being exposed for their disgusting behaviour - got to love these full circle moments.
Yes exactly what you said. This is conditioning them and maybe even grooming them to accept whatever you're told to do in the industry. (And let's be honest, conditioning all the young impressionable viewers as well.)
That Jaeda comment about having "masculine" features just proves that the producers had purposely (and maliciously) cut her hair super short during the makeover scene! The way they preyed on the girls' insecurities for drama and nothing about "high fashion".
The sad thing is, 10 years ago I applied for the show. And the application was lengthy and looong. And I remember pausing at the question for consent for being nude. Me being young and naive I just rushed through the paperwork to submit it in time. I’m glad I didn’t get picked smh
I wish someone used the format of a modelling competition but instead of making the models uncomfortable and talking pictures that they will never use. Instead, they should try to help the models build up their portfolio and grow their modelling skills. It will be very healing and interesting to watch!
There is a series that followed the scouts from IMG trying to find models in Ireland. That was really good. A proper agency and real world experiences and clients but still the knockout format. Also The Face with Naomi Campbell an Erin O’Connor. Both are on RUclips.
it's like tyra is projecting all her trauma and insecurities on the models. Absolutely disgusting and it is sad that she got away with it, totally unfair.
I just realized that the first girl that went up was Brooke and she was a senior in high that missed her graduation for that show. I remember her interview with Oliver Twixt that this photo shoot was intentional for shock factor and to target the young, naive, conservative girls like Becky and Ginger knowing that they wouldn’t cast them on that show to begin with is really effed up. I can’t believe this show was below the radar during those times because it wouldn’t fly today.
This is so wrong on so many levels. In a way, I think a nude photoshoot is to be expected when you go on ANTM just because they do it pretty much every cycle to mess up the girls. But that's what's so wrong. The show doesn't do it for any other reason than to mess them up! Back when ANTM first aired, I was convinced that this was how the industry worked, and watching your videos now is like therapy for my soul 💜
At least they could have done it later in the show when the girls have some experience. Most of these girls have never modelled and the first thing they where expected to do was to pose nude, so incredibly cruel. It was just done for the reality show.
It’s not even how the industry worked then. They didn’t require nudity; this show just conditioned people to believe that; myself included. Ken Mock and the production team were all so creepy and shady.
I’m sure like a lot of girls I wanted to be in this show so bad when I was a teen. But now looking back on it it’s really sad how they treated the girls. And most of the girls had a hard time getting a career after this from what I’ve heard
Notice AGAIN what Mr. Jay says, when they get to Amanda's photo. They LIKE her photo and he says "I think SHE would be COMFORTABLE to work with" because she didn't give them a big fuss about being nude....whereas, Ginger did and that's why he said "no, she is too resistant and uncooperative". And honestly, in my humble opinion, Ginger's photo was one of the best in the bunch. Certainly better than Caridees, who just looked like an ugly hank of hair was tumbled over her face....Ginger gave a beautiful photo, even though she only took two frames. Shouldn't THAT say "she has morals and integrity as a model, but can still get a GOOD picture, even with only a limited number of shots? What is it Tyra always says...time is money? If it came down to choosing between the two, I would choose Ginger. It would NOT have been worth it to me, to do a nude photo, with NO GUARANTEE that I would even be in the house, let alone eliminated. And they can't even use these photos for their portfolio, to show other agencies? Absolutely not. I would have said "No thank you. I will find a better place that can show my talent as a model, where I can have both class AND integrity."
When I was younger I was coerced by a photographer...in the name of "building self-confidence". Now, I realise he was just a creep. Now, I would be out of there immediately. I regret that shoot.😞
How do these grown men (and women like Tyra) not feel gross forcing these women, some who barely 18, to pose nude? If you’re someone like Melrose who’s 23 (which is still young but at least she is a few years into her 20s) and she’s confident doing it, that’s great.. but no one should be forced. No one should be forced no matter their age.. but a barely adult 18 year old is crazy. It feels predatory and like coercion to me.
"Be ready to take your clothes off when asked to." "Be ready to do whatever the client wants you to for the shoot." "Work through the pain." "Don't talk back to the photographer." "No, you can't talk to your family for more than 15 minutes today because we have a lot to film." What does this sound like...?
Unstable runway photoshoot, Freezing swimming pool photoshoot and taking photoshoot with real bull were all done this cycle, so it is make sense producers need to looking for the no boundary ones.
The one thing I think gets forgotten is this is a reality tv competition, the girls there were warned about what they could be facing and signed up for it. The later seasons definitely knew what they were going to put up with.
Whats really crazy is that None of the women from any season of this show are successful today. None of the winners. It really makes you wonder what exactly this show was supposed to be for….. especially with all the inappropriate situations they were put through….
And both, Becky and Ginger, didn’t even make the final cut This is reality TV, not a real modeling competition. You can’t look at this like that, even though they wanted to sell the show like that… This show was full of abuse and bs
Sometimes people in these comments are like, "It's a TV show, of course it's extra dramatic" but there was no need for any of this. They didn't need to do this to these girls.
@@6thgraderfriends I‘m not justifying anything. I’m just saying that you really cannot look at this from a modeling point of view. Of course you can pause the screen every minute and find 10 things to criticise if you do so. Obv the show was full of bs and scandals, the treatment of the girls was horrendous
I hear you…it’s just so sad that they really sold these girls a dream. “In the modeling world you have to ____” smh especially since Tyra comes from that world, it’s even more messed up that she went along with the lies
I love your reactions and input about how the industry actually is. I remember when I was growing up watching the series as it was coming out that my mindset at this season was "The girls should be expecting a nude photo shoot. Every season has one, they signed up for this show." But I know way better now. Not all of them have access to television and/or even knew about the show before being on it. And "No" is a full sentence. People can change their mind and take back their consent, especially when it is about their bodies.
I am not by any means justifying what the production did there, but I've always wondered why so many girls agree to take part in the competition and then act surprised and devastated when they are asked to pose naked or cut their hair short. Like, come on, every season has a nude photoshoot of some kind (or close to that) and makeovers. If you are not ready for this, why bother coming at all? As mean as Jaslene might sound here, she's got a point, too - if you want to be a contestant of this particular competition you gotta be prepared to do this controversial stuff. If you know you'll have a breakdown if they make you bald - don't send your application.
Exactly my thoughts! Especially that this is season 7, so I’m sure the girls watched at least one season of this competition and was aware that there will be a nude photoshoot or a makeover. I understand the shock in the very first seasons, where no one really knew what to expect, but here? Come on.
This is actually crazy. In the Polish edition of this show, they finally changed the approach (after 13 seasons) - the models actually had a choice as to whether or not they wanted to pose nude. They could choose to wear a bikini or lingerie or be naked. There was also a consultant on the set so they could talk about this decision. And the atmosphere turned out so nice and welcoming that some models changed their minds during the photoshoot and decided to remove what they were wearing when they discovered they were comfortable doing it.
ANTM cycle 7 was the cycle the production and Tyra Banks really put some audacity for every single photoshoot ideas. Nude photoshoot without telling from beginning then put the girls on a big platform on a top of building for an exposure, Diva treatment for Melrose then gaslight her for being Diva, the problematic model stereotype photoshoot, the unstable runaway photoshoot, the freaky circus photoshoot, the gaslight of Eugena for having dead eyes looking on photoshoot because Eugena looks like Naomi Campbell so Tyra can do whatever she wants to humble Eugena, the audacity of male model who doesn't like Jaeda and make Jaeda to kiss that male model, the using Catalan Spanish language for a perfume / deodorant commercial, the dangerous bullfighting photoshoot, the floating on cold water photoshoot that caused hypothermia on Caridee, the audacity of giving Jaeda a pixie cut hairstyle because Tyra Banks doesn't like pageant girls so she want to ruin the Jaeda's confidence by giving her short hairtcut. So much audacity in cycle 7.
Oh my God, yes, I watched the 1st season of GNTM and I was shocked that they made girls who were just 16 pose first in lingerie and then naked 😱 at least the naked photoshoot seemed to be in a more private setting with a female crew, but still sooooo messed up
Yah *Caridee* won this cycle & *Jaslene* came back & won *Cycle 8* There were quite a few girls that tried out multiple times & eventually got on the show 🤷🏼♂️
Whether it's ANTM or GNTM (Germany), these nude shoots and also the half-naked couple shoots with a male model are just wrong on so many levels. And they create a totally distorted image of the modeling world and of the shoots.
Jessica, have you ever reached out to any of the photographers on-set to interview their experience? I know we hear a lot from the models now but I'm sure the photographers have similar feelings. Imagine the contracts they signed too... might be an interesting take. Love your vids as always
Yes you’re reacting to the shoot i thought you should watch! Now that you pointed out how some of the girls are just barely 18 I’m noticing a lot of the girls are that age. Makes the producers of the show seem pretty pervy to me 🤷🏻♀️
@@michelledawn7446she did not defend anything, she stated a fact and I’ll repeat it: 18 is the legal age of majority in the US. It doesn’t matter if you think it’s barely an adult…it’s the law. Is a 2024 18 year old different from a 1950 18 year old as far as emotional maturity? Absolutely. If a 50 year man wants to date an 18 year old, he can with no legal consequences. If an 18 year old gets arrested, the police view and treat them as an adult, even if it’s their 18th birthday. If you really want to get triggered, it’s even lower in other parts of the world
That’s sickening. Some of the girls are barely 18! It’s got that Ick factor to it! I can’t believe they would make them do a nude photo shoot on the FIRST DAY! Appalling!
The hilarious thing about this is, Tyra doesn't pose nude and she told the conservative girl who only took two frames that she should not have done it.
What I would want to know, where are all the raws of this photoshoot? How do you know where they ended up? How do you know they weren’t leaked by anyone on set? Or anyone with any access to them in any way? For all they know multiple nudes of them may have been sold.
21:21 - Tyra looking like the Top Model demon ready to suck the life and souls out of these girls and replace them with the production chosen cookie cutter package they want to portay each of them as 👹
Melrose deserves a side eye, bombastically! Taking smack about other girls feeling uncomfortable pursuing nude... But didn't she have issues in lingerie? That those parts of her are meant for future husband??? Everyone has the right to change their mind, withdrawal their consent, for ANY reason, at ANY time! Just blows for how she acted towards others from the jump. 🤯😱🤯
@@TheNocturnalpheonix lol that’s was Shannon, but now that you mentioned it, Shannon and Melrose do kinda look alike. I can see someone getting them mixed up
I wonder if the contract they signed to be in the show mentioned the possibility of being shot nude. Jaslene came back the next season and made it in the house.
Legally, I imagine they had to. But a lot of people don't read contracts, or if they do, they don't understand the legal jargon - especially young people who are literally just out of high school.
It's slipped into the application form, which is pages long. There's a single line with a checkbox that said something like 'applicant consents to nudity if required'. Or there was when I filled out the application, many many years ago.
I thought these were commonplace theories about ANTM. Who are the people who do not believe Jess/this popular view? ps. I love that you're sticking up for their boundaries, I wish I heard more of this perspective in the late noughties/early tens when I was working in media as a young women, urgh
What bothers me is when every time a girl stepped up and spoke up about an issue that she had with either cutting her hair or being suspended in the air with a tight rope wrapped around her waist.. that model was always put on a guilt trip of if you don’t do this then you will go home .. at least she spoke up and voiced her opinion… but unfortunately that wasn’t good enough for them ..
I had seen reruns of ANTM, but never the nude photo shoot. I got to see this episode when it premiered. This was the episode where I stopped watching ANTM. Changed the channel after it ended. I told my mom about this I was so confused. I told her about the entire episode. Then said, "On The Tyra Show, Tyra Banks was looking at modeling scams. Tyra said that models have to put what they will or won't do in their contract. She never does nudity, she wants to have something in front of her body. That's BS that the women on the show were told they could be nude or wear a drape, but they have to pose nude or they may get kicked off the show. I'm not watching that reality show again." My mom responded, "Sounds like BS to me too. Sounds pretty stupid of the show as well". Love you Mom. You help me put so much into perspective when BS is in the air.
This is very informative and I agree their needs and should be boundaries. I was wondering if the model signed their rights away, did they agree to whatever type of shoot when the signed contracts? Some people don't read contracts for whatever reason.
I just saw an episode in cycle 8 where they had the girls do aboriginal dances to represent their traumatic pasts. And almost every girl had an extremely tragic back story.
People will make the excuse that it was the times. Even back then, they would get consent first for a nude shoot, unless you were like Terry Richardson or something, and he faced legal repercussions for his impromptu racey “photoshoots” this show was so creepy
I remember this episode so vividly. I was SHOCKED the moment I learned they made them all pose with no clothes on. At such a young age. Also how crazy is it they made some of them technically do it for no reason!!!
Not only was this creepy and predatory of a shoot, but since they only used mainly the shoulders up they could've easily similuated it or given a backless top and just photoshop out any fabric showing. Which means they could've had bottoms on the entire time! This shoot was so creepy.
And Caridee almost gets hypothermia in one shoot. Did you cover that one already? And this is the season where they cut Jaeda’s hair super short and make her cry.
Omg yes! And at judging they were like “it’s your responsibility to tell us you’re uncomfortable before it gets to that point.” Even though every other time a model has expressed she’s in physical discomfort or pain during a shoot, they’ve said “well you just need to push through it.”
Well it looks like my mini-essay is getting pushed to the bottom. Here's the summary: Per your point at 8:12, unfortunately, yes these girls were told, should have been expecting it, and yes they did legally give consent. The form they filled out in that time period in order to audition does state that there was going to be at least one nude shoot, and by signing that document you agreed that you not only read and understood but were willing to do it. However, even with that consent, it certainly does not excuse ANTMs exploitation and inexcusable behavior.
So, they had that terrible hair, and just plopped it on their heads? And where did that awful make up come from? So confused. And they needed to be completely nude, on a box, with that raggedy hair?! Oh, this is the episode where Jasline doesn’t make it in the house, but wins the next cycle. Ginger seemed so sweet.
7:54 I agree that there is nothing wrong with having boundaries and refusing to do something that your not comfortable with and no one should feel pressured into doing something they don’t want to but also this is not season 1 of this show. They have a nude photo shoot every season. The girls no at some point they will be asked to get naked ON THIS show. If there not comfortable doing it they shouldn’t go on the show. Like I have no problem being topless but fully nude no. And I watched this show so I know they would be asked and I would have never went on the show because I no I wouldn’t want to do it
What's odd is that wouldn't they want models who do it even when it's completely against what their boundary was? But the girls who were incredibly uncomfortable still got screwed just because they let producers know they were uncomfortable. I've always hated the episodes that do this. It's just creepy.
They were always trying to get these girls to pose nude and then shaming them when they didn’t want to do it. All the way back to cycle 1. It’s really disgusting.
Ive seen so many of your videos reviewing antm but im still always so blown away at how mean tyra and the other judges are. Theyre just bullies and they want to manipulate young vulnerable women. It's insane how obvious it is in retrospect but growing up as a kid i would watch this and believe them
Great video! If you want to see controversy, you should try Janice Dickinson Modeling agency. Just grounds for a lawsuit. And there are free videos on RUclips 😊
Keep in mind, this was photo shoot was only to choose the official contestants 😔 I never liked how they surprise the models with these n*des photos, and they didn’t even bother to offer other options and alternatives…
I remember when I saw this episode on TV back In the days, I was like 10 years old and I was quite scared by the idea that I would have to undress if I want to become a model which it was my dream.
As much as what was shown of Jaslene during the footage girls struggling with the nudity wasn’t great, I do absolutely love the scene where she tells Tyra she is coming back is just beautiful. Because she maybe wouldn’t have won this season but it gave her the fire in that moment to win the next season
I had SUCH a hard time watching this episode the first time. They made these girls strip completely naked & pose in front of a man. I don't blame some of them for not wanting to do this shoot.
I hate that they put the girls in the position where they felt like they couldn't say no to anything. They *could* but if they did they knew they would be facing elimination. This was hard to watch them justify it when some of them were SUPER uncomfortable. I hope that this is a moment that Ginger doesn't still think about 😥
Watching these episodes again….one realizes just how cringy they are and how manipulative everyone on set was. Worst part is…none of those people lost any sleep over it.
havent you guys seen the documentary about underage/max 18 yrs old models in Europe/Italy?where the talent scout partied with the models every weekend in Torino I believe!throwing the models in night clubs lots of nights and shaming them for Not wanting to go since they got paid a pretty penny and got good photographers to work with!
@@manonvo8615 one that had Brunel in it, watching a new one since then... Scouting for Models, 3 part docu series with plenty of Supermodels and other known models abused by the industry!
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Tyra herself said she doesn’t pose nude, she only did “simulated” nude! It’s crazy that she’d expect when she herself won’t don’t do it. Crazy!
And these girls where almost children.
And so proud over it. Also had momma protect her and stood infront of her and said no. And she didn't fail as a model due to it. And here she did it as payback for something she never did herself
And the sad part is, the ones who were the most nervous and terrified about it, but still did it, don't even make it to the house. What does that tell you? 🙄
@@Jalil-wx7rh Good point.
That they forced people to do stuff just for drama
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Your videos are HEALING for an entire generation of girls who grew up believing the BS that Tyra and the goof troop told the girls. That you need to accept abuse and go against your feelings to succeed, to "be on top"...you're a rockstar for this series. You are doing something so much more than making entertainment here.
Beautiful comment. And I fully agree.
It's not b.s it's the truth.. it shodnt be.. but it is
Yeah this show definitely manipulated young people to accept abuse and humiliation to have a chance on a career.
@@jadebel7006 it isn't the truth. accepting abuse is one path that may or may not lead to success, but it isn't the only path to success at all.
I love that you called them the goof troop haha
This episode does demonstrate coercion very well; pushing past stated boundaries, offering "compromises", applying public pressure, and dangling the spectre of punishment.
It felt like they were training the girls for a sleezy casting couch.
One of the things that always irritated me about the surprise nude shoots was that when a girl objected, the show went out of their way to portray her as hyper-religious, prudish, childish, or overly conservative. In reality, they had boundaries and they had every right to refuse no matter the reason.
My favorite is the All-Star season when they one hundred percent knew Shannon didn't pose in underwear and then acted confused every time she refused.
Mine was when Eva was terrified of spiders and they had to pose with a tarantula on their hands or face with jewelry… another one was when Chris didn’t want to go in the roller coaster cause she was mortified of being on a roller coaster but she did it while being terrified…
Me a nudist and I would refuse nude photoshoot
@@Philigirl2 i once saw a interwiev with a girl from that season and they had several spiders there becouse the girls got spoked dropped them and they died from it. They verry sensitive for that type of accident and you never lift them if not nessisary
1st of all ginger is so pretty, a regal beauty. fun fact she got signed with major agency right after she filmed in antm
she looks like Regina George from mean girls aka Rachel Mcadams
Good ending
I remember watching ANTM as a kid dreaming of being a model and these episodes always scared me because i thought that a surprise nude shoot would be expected and normal…
They just get off on humiliating the girls and making them uncomfortable. It’s not okay and I never wanted to do it because it just feels like hazing.
I think I just saw this same behavior on the documentary “Quiet on the Set” it constantly amazes me how society keeps moving the bar lower and lower. Producers, showrunners, higher ups just wanted barely 18 nudes, that’s all. This didn’t have anything to do with modeling, this was purely for some perverts spank bank
Jaslene was very rude to the girl who was really upset. Not everyone is comfortable being nude in front of strangers . And that girl was right, just because she's not comfortable with nude pictures doesn't mean she doesn't want this just as much as anyone else.
it's a modeling competition not a church show
@@cocorush7349 absolutely 💯
@@cocorush7349 You don't need to be religious to be uncomfortable being naked infront of strangers. People have morals and boundries outside of religion too.
@@cocorush7349everyone is different and has different things there comfortable with. Like I would have no problem being topless but fully nude isn’t something I would feel comfortable with. Even when I was younger and would wear bikinis I still always wore shorts over the bottom because even just being in the bottoms wasn’t comfortable for me
@@cocorush7349 it's like going into law school and going to sit in on a first interview with a serial killer on the first day, some are comfortable, some are not, for some it's not beneficial because they plan on not going into criminal law and it's really sad that they are being shamed and even judged for not wanting to sit with a serial killer
You know what I hear when Jay says, "You know it's going to affect your standing in the competition."? I hear, "You wanna be a star, don't you? Then take off your clothes!"
I love how Jay never gets the point. He knows this is not how you do this is the real modeling world, telling them seconds before a shoot they're going to be nude. And I'm sure they do wordplay in small letters in the contract. Even Tyra says she doesn't pose nude! She simulates it and they retouch it.
I appreciate Jaeda for covering up Ginger during the shoot, and Evita for calling the BS.
I’m a boudoir photographer and I work with plenty of models and clients who are comfortable shooting nude, but I would never, ever, ever force or coerce someone into shooting nude that isn’t comfortable doing so. And anyway, the photos probably won’t look great if the client/model is uncomfortable, so what’s the point?? It’s appalling that they got away with this. I used to watch ANTM religiously when I was younger. I can’t believe I never realized how awful the show is. I love your videos, btw!
It's not enough that they're being forced to expose themselves to an entire city landscape and a camera crew, made up of predominantly male camera operators, but having to do it in front of their fellow young female competitors too. We all know how b*tchy girls can be at that age and I have no doubt that there were whispers and giggles on the sidelines whilst some of the girls were doing their shoots.
This can even be seen in Jaslene's behaviour towards the shoot, being icy and p*ssed off the girls who feels uncomfortable and saying the exact same thing and the photoshoot shoot directors, just because she doesn't care about shooting naked.
All these poor naked and vulnerable young girls must've been feeling judged BEFORE the panel of 'esteemed' judges collaboratively rip into them about how they performed and degrade them on their final photo for thousands to watch on the telly.
PLUS, the fact that this was their FIRST photoshoot so a lot of the girls probably hadn't established their confidence with their bodies and in their modelling abilities makes it sooo much worse.
This is just wrong all round and I feel for these girls being coerced into this situation being told that they'll never go far and get anywhere in the modelling world if they don't do this.
The whole shoot was just a "if Tyra says jump, who says how high?" situation to find out which models will be the easiest to manipulate into whichever bull they're planning to pull this season.
Turns out years later it's the judges, creative directors and production being exposed for their disgusting behaviour - got to love these full circle moments.
Yes exactly what you said. This is conditioning them and maybe even grooming them to accept whatever you're told to do in the industry. (And let's be honest, conditioning all the young impressionable viewers as well.)
"How Did ANTM Get Away With This?"
this can describe almost every episode
That Jaeda comment about having "masculine" features just proves that the producers had purposely (and maliciously) cut her hair super short during the makeover scene! The way they preyed on the girls' insecurities for drama and nothing about "high fashion".
The sad thing is, 10 years ago I applied for the show. And the application was lengthy and looong. And I remember pausing at the question for consent for being nude. Me being young and naive I just rushed through the paperwork to submit it in time. I’m glad I didn’t get picked smh
Friendly reminder that Tyra has never posed nude. NEVER. She “simulates” nude but has never model nude like these girls.
I don’t understand this.
I wish someone used the format of a modelling competition but instead of making the models uncomfortable and talking pictures that they will never use. Instead, they should try to help the models build up their portfolio and grow their modelling skills. It will be very healing and interesting to watch!
You should try and find the latest seasons of Hollands Next Topmodel. They're really good, positive and inclusive. Yolanda Hadid is a judge.
@@manonvo8615 thank you for the recommendation!
No it doesn't.. it sounds incredibly boring lol
@@jadebel7006if u are interested in actual modeling it should be boring..
There is a series that followed the scouts from IMG trying to find models in Ireland. That was really good. A proper agency and real world experiences and clients but still the knockout format. Also The Face with Naomi Campbell an Erin O’Connor. Both are on RUclips.
it's like tyra is projecting all her trauma and insecurities on the models. Absolutely disgusting and it is sad that she got away with it, totally unfair.
It's disgusting that Tyra would allow young models to be subjected to this.
You know she never done it herself. She refuses to do a nude photosoot and allways have. She did fake one with small bikinis taken away after
This is season 7. Caridee wins. Jaslene didn’t pass a screening test because she was in an abusive relationship and she goes back and wins season 8.
I just realized that the first girl that went up was Brooke and she was a senior in high that missed her graduation for that show. I remember her interview with Oliver Twixt that this photo shoot was intentional for shock factor and to target the young, naive, conservative girls like Becky and Ginger knowing that they wouldn’t cast them on that show to begin with is really effed up. I can’t believe this show was below the radar during those times because it wouldn’t fly today.
I’m so glad the comments section passes the vibe check. ☺️❤️
It was a team full of creeps, abusive creeps. Ugh.
All of Hollywood is....
This is so wrong on so many levels. In a way, I think a nude photoshoot is to be expected when you go on ANTM just because they do it pretty much every cycle to mess up the girls. But that's what's so wrong. The show doesn't do it for any other reason than to mess them up!
Back when ANTM first aired, I was convinced that this was how the industry worked, and watching your videos now is like therapy for my soul 💜
At least they could have done it later in the show when the girls have some experience. Most of these girls have never modelled and the first thing they where expected to do was to pose nude, so incredibly cruel. It was just done for the reality show.
It’s not even how the industry worked then. They didn’t require nudity; this show just conditioned people to believe that; myself included. Ken Mock and the production team were all so creepy and shady.
Girl, your theories are always true, that's why we keep watching. Keep doing those casting episodes, you have soo many more to go through :)
This is why as a Photographer I hate AMTM, treat models with respect and always listen to them. 😡
Always cringe-worthy watching men criticize women for their morals, their looks and health care choices!
I love Ginger for that, standing up for her principles 🙌
I’m sure like a lot of girls I wanted to be in this show so bad when I was a teen. But now looking back on it it’s really sad how they treated the girls. And most of the girls had a hard time getting a career after this from what I’ve heard
Notice AGAIN what Mr. Jay says, when they get to Amanda's photo. They LIKE her photo and he says "I think SHE would be COMFORTABLE to work with" because she didn't give them a big fuss about being nude....whereas, Ginger did and that's why he said "no, she is too resistant and uncooperative". And honestly, in my humble opinion, Ginger's photo was one of the best in the bunch. Certainly better than Caridees, who just looked like an ugly hank of hair was tumbled over her face....Ginger gave a beautiful photo, even though she only took two frames. Shouldn't THAT say "she has morals and integrity as a model, but can still get a GOOD picture, even with only a limited number of shots? What is it Tyra always says...time is money? If it came down to choosing between the two, I would choose Ginger. It would NOT have been worth it to me, to do a nude photo, with NO GUARANTEE that I would even be in the house, let alone eliminated. And they can't even use these photos for their portfolio, to show other agencies? Absolutely not. I would have said "No thank you. I will find a better place that can show my talent as a model, where I can have both class AND integrity."
Heaven forbid these girls have convictions that they have the resolve to stand up for in the face of intimidation. Kudos to them.
When I was younger I was coerced by a photographer...in the name of "building self-confidence". Now, I realise he was just a creep. Now, I would be out of there immediately. I regret that shoot.😞
That's disgusting. I'm sorry that happened to you.
How do these grown men (and women like Tyra) not feel gross forcing these women, some who barely 18, to pose nude? If you’re someone like Melrose who’s 23 (which is still young but at least she is a few years into her 20s) and she’s confident doing it, that’s great.. but no one should be forced. No one should be forced no matter their age.. but a barely adult 18 year old is crazy. It feels predatory and like coercion to me.
"Be ready to take your clothes off when asked to."
"Be ready to do whatever the client wants you to for the shoot."
"Work through the pain."
"Don't talk back to the photographer."
"No, you can't talk to your family for more than 15 minutes today because we have a lot to film."
What does this sound like...?
All of Hollywood...
Unstable runway photoshoot, Freezing swimming pool photoshoot and taking photoshoot with real bull were all done this cycle, so it is make sense producers need to looking for the no boundary ones.
The one thing I think gets forgotten is this is a reality tv competition, the girls there were warned about what they could be facing and signed up for it. The later seasons definitely knew what they were going to put up with.
Whats really crazy is that None of the women from any season of this show are successful today. None of the winners. It really makes you wonder what exactly this show was supposed to be for….. especially with all the inappropriate situations they were put through….
Plenty of women from the show were successful. They just weren't made successful by the show.
And both, Becky and Ginger, didn’t even make the final cut
This is reality TV, not a real modeling competition. You can’t look at this like that, even though they wanted to sell the show like that… This show was full of abuse and bs
Sometimes people in these comments are like, "It's a TV show, of course it's extra dramatic" but there was no need for any of this. They didn't need to do this to these girls.
@@6thgraderfriends I‘m not justifying anything. I’m just saying that you really cannot look at this from a modeling point of view. Of course you can pause the screen every minute and find 10 things to criticise if you do so. Obv the show was full of bs and scandals, the treatment of the girls was horrendous
I hear you…it’s just so sad that they really sold these girls a dream. “In the modeling world you have to ____” smh especially since Tyra comes from that world, it’s even more messed up that she went along with the lies
I love your reactions and input about how the industry actually is. I remember when I was growing up watching the series as it was coming out that my mindset at this season was "The girls should be expecting a nude photo shoot. Every season has one, they signed up for this show." But I know way better now. Not all of them have access to television and/or even knew about the show before being on it. And "No" is a full sentence. People can change their mind and take back their consent, especially when it is about their bodies.
Your theory is 100% exactly right.
I am not by any means justifying what the production did there, but I've always wondered why so many girls agree to take part in the competition and then act surprised and devastated when they are asked to pose naked or cut their hair short. Like, come on, every season has a nude photoshoot of some kind (or close to that) and makeovers. If you are not ready for this, why bother coming at all? As mean as Jaslene might sound here, she's got a point, too - if you want to be a contestant of this particular competition you gotta be prepared to do this controversial stuff. If you know you'll have a breakdown if they make you bald - don't send your application.
Exactly my thoughts! Especially that this is season 7, so I’m sure the girls watched at least one season of this competition and was aware that there will be a nude photoshoot or a makeover. I understand the shock in the very first seasons, where no one really knew what to expect, but here? Come on.
From the perspective of what's currently being exposed in the entertainment industry, this looks like grooming.
What's up with those Spirit Halloween wigs?... they did them dirty
*This is season 7 and won CareDee, in season 8 won Jaslene.*
This is actually crazy. In the Polish edition of this show, they finally changed the approach (after 13 seasons) - the models actually had a choice as to whether or not they wanted to pose nude. They could choose to wear a bikini or lingerie or be naked. There was also a consultant on the set so they could talk about this decision. And the atmosphere turned out so nice and welcoming that some models changed their minds during the photoshoot and decided to remove what they were wearing when they discovered they were comfortable doing it.
ANTM cycle 7 was the cycle the production and Tyra Banks really put some audacity for every single photoshoot ideas.
Nude photoshoot without telling from beginning then put the girls on a big platform on a top of building for an exposure, Diva treatment for Melrose then gaslight her for being Diva, the problematic model stereotype photoshoot, the unstable runaway photoshoot, the freaky circus photoshoot, the gaslight of Eugena for having dead eyes looking on photoshoot because Eugena looks like Naomi Campbell so Tyra can do whatever she wants to humble Eugena, the audacity of male model who doesn't like Jaeda and make Jaeda to kiss that male model, the using Catalan Spanish language for a perfume / deodorant commercial, the dangerous bullfighting photoshoot, the floating on cold water photoshoot that caused hypothermia on Caridee, the audacity of giving Jaeda a pixie cut hairstyle because Tyra Banks doesn't like pageant girls so she want to ruin the Jaeda's confidence by giving her short hairtcut.
So much audacity in cycle 7.
I hope more people speak up on how they were actually treated behind the scenes 🤞
I just realized Brooke was still in high school when this was filmed 😳
If you are surprised by them being 18 in other international next top model shows like GNTM there are girls underage that had to pose nude.
Oh my God, yes, I watched the 1st season of GNTM and I was shocked that they made girls who were just 16 pose first in lingerie and then naked 😱 at least the naked photoshoot seemed to be in a more private setting with a female crew, but still sooooo messed up
Yah *Caridee* won this cycle & *Jaslene* came back & won *Cycle 8* There were quite a few girls that tried out multiple times & eventually got on the show 🤷🏼♂️
Whether it's ANTM or GNTM (Germany), these nude shoots and also the half-naked couple shoots with a male model are just wrong on so many levels. And they create a totally distorted image of the modeling world and of the shoots.
Jessica, have you ever reached out to any of the photographers on-set to interview their experience? I know we hear a lot from the models now but I'm sure the photographers have similar feelings. Imagine the contracts they signed too... might be an interesting take. Love your vids as always
Yes you’re reacting to the shoot i thought you should watch!
Now that you pointed out how some of the girls are just barely 18 I’m noticing a lot of the girls are that age. Makes the producers of the show seem pretty pervy to me 🤷🏻♀️
18 is a legal adult, stop treating 18-21 Yr old like they're 12 lol
@@jadebel7006 18 is barely an adult. And Ginger was pressured into it. Stop defending creepy behavior.
@@michelledawn7446 14 year old girls are basically wearing lingerie to school now and have you been on TikTok lately? Makes ANTM look tame.
@@michelledawn7446she did not defend anything, she stated a fact and I’ll repeat it: 18 is the legal age of majority in the US. It doesn’t matter if you think it’s barely an adult…it’s the law. Is a 2024 18 year old different from a 1950 18 year old as far as emotional maturity? Absolutely. If a 50 year man wants to date an 18 year old, he can with no legal consequences. If an 18 year old gets arrested, the police view and treat them as an adult, even if it’s their 18th birthday. If you really want to get triggered, it’s even lower in other parts of the world
That’s sickening. Some of the girls are barely 18! It’s got that Ick factor to it! I can’t believe they would make them do a nude photo shoot on the FIRST DAY! Appalling!
The hilarious thing about this is, Tyra doesn't pose nude and she told the conservative girl who only took two frames that she should not have done it.
What I would want to know, where are all the raws of this photoshoot? How do you know where they ended up? How do you know they weren’t leaked by anyone on set? Or anyone with any access to them in any way? For all they know multiple nudes of them may have been sold.
21:21 - Tyra looking like the Top Model demon ready to suck the life and souls out of these girls and replace them with the production chosen cookie cutter package they want to portay each of them as 👹
As always you are spot on about this hideous show. Thank you for your videos Jessica 🙏
Melrose deserves a side eye, bombastically! Taking smack about other girls feeling uncomfortable pursuing nude... But didn't she have issues in lingerie? That those parts of her are meant for future husband???
Everyone has the right to change their mind, withdrawal their consent, for ANY reason, at ANY time! Just blows for how she acted towards others from the jump. 🤯😱🤯
Yeah. She was at least low-key a pick-me...
Are you thinking of Shannon?
That was Shannon, not Melrose
@@TheNocturnalpheonix lol that’s was Shannon, but now that you mentioned it, Shannon and Melrose do kinda look alike.
I can see someone getting them mixed up
Mr Jay gives me the ick. Urgh. I'm so sorry for all the models who had to endure his ridiculousness.
Jaslene came back the next season..this was Caridee's season
I wonder if the contract they signed to be in the show mentioned the possibility of being shot nude.
Jaslene came back the next season and made it in the house.
Legally, I imagine they had to. But a lot of people don't read contracts, or if they do, they don't understand the legal jargon - especially young people who are literally just out of high school.
It's slipped into the application form, which is pages long. There's a single line with a checkbox that said something like 'applicant consents to nudity if required'. Or there was when I filled out the application, many many years ago.
I thought these were commonplace theories about ANTM. Who are the people who do not believe Jess/this popular view? ps. I love that you're sticking up for their boundaries, I wish I heard more of this perspective in the late noughties/early tens when I was working in media as a young women, urgh
What bothers me is when every time a girl stepped up and spoke up about an issue that she had with either cutting her hair or being suspended in the air with a tight rope wrapped around her waist.. that model was always put on a guilt trip of if you don’t do this then you will go home .. at least she spoke up and voiced her opinion… but unfortunately that wasn’t good enough for them ..
The power dynamic makes this so sick 💔
I had seen reruns of ANTM, but never the nude photo shoot.
I got to see this episode when it premiered.
This was the episode where I stopped watching ANTM. Changed the channel after it ended. I told my mom about this I was so confused.
I told her about the entire episode. Then said, "On The Tyra Show, Tyra Banks was looking at modeling scams. Tyra said that models have to put what they will or won't do in their contract. She never does nudity, she wants to have something in front of her body. That's BS that the women on the show were told they could be nude or wear a drape, but they have to pose nude or they may get kicked off the show. I'm not watching that reality show again."
My mom responded, "Sounds like BS to me too. Sounds pretty stupid of the show as well".
Love you Mom. You help me put so much into perspective when BS is in the air.
This is very informative and I agree their needs and should be boundaries. I was wondering if the model signed their rights away, did they agree to whatever type of shoot when the signed contracts? Some people don't read contracts for whatever reason.
I just saw an episode in cycle 8 where they had the girls do aboriginal dances to represent their traumatic pasts. And almost every girl had an extremely tragic back story.
People will make the excuse that it was the times. Even back then, they would get consent first for a nude shoot, unless you were like Terry Richardson or something, and he faced legal repercussions for his impromptu racey “photoshoots” this show was so creepy
I remember this episode so vividly. I was SHOCKED the moment I learned they made them all pose with no clothes on. At such a young age.
Also how crazy is it they made some of them technically do it for no reason!!!
Not only was this creepy and predatory of a shoot, but since they only used mainly the shoulders up they could've easily similuated it or given a backless top and just photoshop out any fabric showing. Which means they could've had bottoms on the entire time! This shoot was so creepy.
And Caridee almost gets hypothermia in one shoot. Did you cover that one already? And this is the season where they cut Jaeda’s hair super short and make her cry.
Omg yes! And at judging they were like “it’s your responsibility to tell us you’re uncomfortable before it gets to that point.” Even though every other time a model has expressed she’s in physical discomfort or pain during a shoot, they’ve said “well you just need to push through it.”
The the girl who got literal frostbite from holding ice cream 🤦🏼♀️
The first shoot and they have these women pose nude? That is so awful! This isn’t playboy, it’s supposed to be a model competition!
Was diddy involved in this episode 😭 I see the usage of baby oil. That era of tv was insanity
Well it looks like my mini-essay is getting pushed to the bottom. Here's the summary:
Per your point at 8:12, unfortunately, yes these girls were told, should have been expecting it, and yes they did legally give consent. The form they filled out in that time period in order to audition does state that there was going to be at least one nude shoot, and by signing that document you agreed that you not only read and understood but were willing to do it. However, even with that consent, it certainly does not excuse ANTMs exploitation and inexcusable behavior.
So, they had that terrible hair, and just plopped it on their heads? And where did that awful make up come from? So confused. And they needed to be completely nude, on a box, with that raggedy hair?! Oh, this is the episode where Jasline doesn’t make it in the house, but wins the next cycle. Ginger seemed so sweet.
I had to skip through the photo shoot. It's sad these ladies had to go through this. So glad you called them out! 💁🏽
Most Antm contestants were teenagers
7:54 I agree that there is nothing wrong with having boundaries and refusing to do something that your not comfortable with and no one should feel pressured into doing something they don’t want to but also this is not season 1 of this show. They have a nude photo shoot every season. The girls no at some point they will be asked to get naked ON THIS show. If there not comfortable doing it they shouldn’t go on the show. Like I have no problem being topless but fully nude no. And I watched this show so I know they would be asked and I would have never went on the show because I no I wouldn’t want to do it
What's odd is that wouldn't they want models who do it even when it's completely against what their boundary was? But the girls who were incredibly uncomfortable still got screwed just because they let producers know they were uncomfortable. I've always hated the episodes that do this. It's just creepy.
They were always trying to get these girls to pose nude and then shaming them when they didn’t want to do it. All the way back to cycle 1. It’s really disgusting.
Ive seen so many of your videos reviewing antm but im still always so blown away at how mean tyra and the other judges are. Theyre just bullies and they want to manipulate young vulnerable women. It's insane how obvious it is in retrospect but growing up as a kid i would watch this and believe them
I believe your theory
Great video! If you want to see controversy, you should try Janice Dickinson Modeling agency. Just grounds for a lawsuit. And there are free videos on RUclips 😊
Loved meeting you at the matcha spot! 😊 Eric & Martin ❤ (big fans)
Keep in mind, this was photo shoot was only to choose the official contestants 😔 I never liked how they surprise the models with these n*des photos, and they didn’t even bother to offer other options and alternatives…
I remember when I saw this episode on TV back In the days, I was like 10 years old and I was quite scared by the idea that I would have to undress if I want to become a model which it was my dream.
As much as what was shown of Jaslene during the footage girls struggling with the nudity wasn’t great, I do absolutely love the scene where she tells Tyra she is coming back is just beautiful. Because she maybe wouldn’t have won this season but it gave her the fire in that moment to win the next season
Jaslene came back for the next cycle and that's the one she won. Her cycle had Jael, Renee, and Dionne, to name a few others.
I’d characterize it more as an ‘accurate analysis’ then I would a ‘theory’ lol, because you’re 100% right
I had SUCH a hard time watching this episode the first time. They made these girls strip completely naked & pose in front of a man.
I don't blame some of them for not wanting to do this shoot.
I hate that they put the girls in the position where they felt like they couldn't say no to anything. They *could* but if they did they knew they would be facing elimination. This was hard to watch them justify it when some of them were SUPER uncomfortable. I hope that this is a moment that Ginger doesn't still think about 😥
Watching these episodes again….one realizes just how cringy they are and how manipulative everyone on set was. Worst part is…none of those people lost any sleep over it.
I don’t understand what these unscrupulous photographers are getting out of this. At least Tyra et. al. are making a name for themselves off the show.
havent you guys seen the documentary about underage/max 18 yrs old models in Europe/Italy?where the talent scout partied with the models every weekend in Torino I believe!throwing the models in night clubs lots of nights and shaming them for Not wanting to go since they got paid a pretty penny and got good photographers to work with!
What documentary is this?
@@manonvo8615 one that had Brunel in it, watching a new one since then... Scouting for Models, 3 part docu series with plenty of Supermodels and other known models abused by the industry!
That sounds disturbing.
@@manonvo8615 tried to write about Linda Evangelistas husband is in it, yt deleted it!
Yes, Jaslene didn't make it onto THIS season. She was a finalist next season.
Why did they need to be nude though..they could have skin tone undies and bra on .. at the least