Hey guys, since editing the video, I've decided to not include the direct from China links in the video description - as purchases of such items may not be technically legal in some viewer's countries. That being said, I'm almost certain the second watch is a real Daniel Wellington. What do you think about that watch?
I have a possible explanantion for why it looks like a DW but not quite 100%: According to the book "Ghomorra" by Italian writer Roberto Salviano, clothes from Italian luxury brands are made by different factories. Those bid on who can produce cheapest, others can also compete and join that offer, the best products are then bought by the luxury company and sold. Those who do not quite match the standards are usually sold as these "counterfeit" products in dubious places. This might have happened with this 20$ "DW" as well. The factory started to produce for DW, then the dial ended up being slightly off and the holes not punched according to request, likely due to a communication issue. This then results in DW not buing them from the factory and those selling them on Alibaba for a steal just to cover production cost. Likely the batch got sold out or DW forbade them to sell it which is why the offer can not be found anymore.
You had to compare the unbranded Aliexpress original to DW, not a Chinese DW counterfeit, that is, indeed, illegal to import and sell/purchase within the EU and most certainly also in the US and other Western countries. That said, these are identical watches, most certainly manufactured at the same factory. And so will be the unbranded 5-10$ Aliexpress original.
İt’s the same watch 100% they are dropshipping with their brand on it Can you please send me the link of the chinese one Ben ? İt’s not illegal in my country :)
MagnetPull, if they would try that practice in Western hemisphere, they would face legal disputes for trademark infringement, and that won't be cheap at all. They can only do this because they're in China, where no one cares and where the government makes it difficult for Western companies/trademark holders to sue the infringing parties.
@@james-ch Chinese can replicate everything. If all factories use the same tools they can create the same thing. The reason why it looks the same is because its not hard to make it look the same
@@bruhdabones Dude, what are you talking about? Maybe for you, everyone who know anything about watches knew this. There are countless pieces on this EVERYWHERE. The thing is you are probably the market aim of this watch, the social network generation who doesnt care to search about anything beforehand.
Capt Mifune Guess you don’t get the joke? Clearly everyone with any knowledge was well aware that DW, MVMT, etc are overpriced. What made you assume that I don’t do research, or that I’m some millennial?
Capt Mifune I love how the hardcore snobs make so many assumptions, only to fall flat on their faces. DW is OK for people to wear, as long as they’re informed about the lack of quality. I’m not a millennial or Gen Z’er, you’re too blinded by your prejudices.
Demetrios Levi Not really scammers. This is exactly how I run my business as well. It’s all about marketing. Can’t blame the business owners that customers don’t do research
@@SquarePenix. if your business is run by making sure your customers don't research your product because it's a shit product, then that's a shit business. Just because it's working does not make it honourable.
@Selim Sultan Akbar doesn't matter. A shit product is a shit product. A good business is one who not just prioritizes profit, but the prioritizes the product as well. I don't get why people try to justify shady business like this
It's not a scam. It's exactly like how iphone or samsung sells a $300 phone as $1000 retail, and people still buying them left and right. It's a business. They gotta have profit to cover the overhead costs of staffs, advertising, marketing, etc, and still have extras as income. How much the profit is or should be made, well, that's their prerogative. Whether it's 5% or 50000% of profit, is entirely up to them. Just like it's up to us to choose whether or not we want to buy the watch or not. Scamming is, for example, they claim 'made entirely in USA', but in truth it's made in China instead. Or 'best watch in the world, better than Omega, Tag Heuer, Rolex, Patek P, etc', when in truth it's nothing close to those brands. Or 'winner of blablabla awards 6 years in a row', when in truth they have never won those awards, or even better, the awards never existed in the first place....
They rode the wave of instagram "influencers" at the right time. Someone else did that early for makeup. Someone else for clothing. He saw the writing on the wall and got in at the right time. Even recently in the gaming space Apex Legends paid millions of dollars to "influencers", instead of advertisement, to play their game.
his name is Filip Tysander. went to Australia, met a guy named Daniel Wellington, and he thought it would be a nice watch's brand name. Mr Wellington has nothing to do with the company.
Casio watches are so good both in terms of looks and functionality. The stainless steel never rusts, even when worn in summer, which means sweat, or in the rain. It keeps fairly accurate time. And the glass, while gets scratched under heavy impacts, never breaks. I wonder why people these days are so dumb to buy watches that have no heritage except for a huge social image!
I got a Casio WVA-430U, since 2010. Once not used for almost half year, when I put it back and got some sunlight it sprang back to life like nothing happened. and it kept the time too.
I've always been suspicious about the quality of Daniel Wellington watches, cause I dont trust their over-advs on social media. And you just confirm my fears. Thank for your video
I bought a watch on Aliexpress for 80p for everyday use/hiking. Basically a watch I wouldnt cry about if it broke. I didn't really expect it to work, but it works and has been for 1.5 years!
I remember when DW contacted me and tried to get me to advertise them on my instagram for their watch....now that I know their watch is actually pretty worthless, I'm even more glad I didn't take the offer loll
So awesome to find you here! I've been following you on IG for a couple of years now, and i absolutely love your drawing style! Keep up the good work :P
@@BengVideo they only offer their watch and you need to make 2 posts and one story. I actually did take it, even though I probably shouldn't. I knew they aren't some high quality watches but it was like a major collab for me at the time (even though I know they send them to literally everyone with over 8 k). I like them though, but the thing you put around your wrist (sorry I forgot how to say it lol) isn't that nice or high quality at least on mine. My boyfriend bought them for full price and his are nicer in my opinion but it's not high quality leather either. They're definitely overpriced and people think they're like high fashion or something which is silly
Only an idiot would buy a daniel wellington. For a $100++ i would prefer a seiko or timex or orient watches. Far more better watches for a better value
Whats value in a watch? Truth is, seiko and orient wont get as much compliments as a dw. And I have seikos...but lets be real..to the avg person, DW has a better cleaner aesthetic. No idea why all the Mvmt/DW dislike, watches are accessories. A rolex isnt worth its price to tell the time.
@@jameeyg87 it not worth for the amount of money you spend. And rolex is a watch and jewelry combine I dont like rolex either cause i dont have that much money lol But if you want an entry level + budget watch just get seiko, they respect your money, end of story
@@jameeyg87 i know what you mean bro. But i dont buy, i dont collect watches to get complimented by people. I buy it for self satisfaction and for the value 👍
I was about to buy a Daniel Wellington during the black Friday sale. My intuition told me to youtube "Daniel Wellington". Your video was the first one that popped up. Now, I've cleared my shopping kart online. NEXT!! Thanks for the amazing content.
Or even a Seiko Quartz, always be careful recommending automatics to people who aren't really 'into watches', it will not do much for them. Make sure they know about well made quartz watches too so they don't think fashion watches and DWs are the way to go when buying a battery powered watch.
I mean i bought a DW watch just because of the style. I know it is overpriced and that it is overhyped but i like simplicity and for me the design on it is just beautiful even if i know i overpaid. Awesome vid tho you earned a sub !
I almost bought a DW as my first watch when I didn't know much about watches, thinking it was a good price and value for money. Goes to show that how well marketing and distribution can work if the consumer is not knowledgeable in an area
Why do you think companies like Timex and Seiko do not do social media marketing to keep up with brands like MVMT and Daniel Wellington? Can't think of any reason.
I think about this all the time. My guess is that the companies are older and run by older people who don't see the importance of these modern marketing means. When you stick to your values and priorities, the competition beating you isn't the first thing you worry about. My 2 cents.
As Felix said, I'm sure the bigwigs at the top of the companies are older people, who don't have much of a clue about digital marketing. As a result they almost give companies like DW and MVMT a free reign to dominate Instagram and RUclips. I've emailed Timex before and they never even respond, which sucks and is proof they're behind the times
I live in Taiwan (I am from Belgium) and I can assure you that Seiko or Citizen do a lot of digital marketing here. They don't do social media influencers though, people wearing their watches in the ads are famous local actors and they also do a bunch of ads in the street ^^ I'd say that they don't want to fall in the "fashion watches" category too, having ads all over social media might give them this kind of image
Btw, if you go on a FB page, you go straight to the "info and ads" section to see any ads the page is currently running, here is for Seiko in TW : facebook.com/pg/Seiko.Taiwan/ads/?ref=page_internal
Ludovic got it right. Reputable brands do both, digital and traditional marketing, but in professional way, with real vip and famous models, spending millions, working together with well known design and marketing studios and focusing on branding and value. You will never see Apple, nor Armani, nor BMW, nor Rolex, nor B&O, nor Seiko advertising through screaming influencers and FB/IG ad spams. Guess why...
My friend has a DW watch and she just "hates" people who buy "copies". 🤣 When she herself is paying 5-10 times for the thing just to pay for the Instagram advertisements. 🤣🤣🤣
The solution to the mystery is very simple. The second "replica" isn't a fake watch at all. It is an original one from exactly the same factory. It isn't even moonshine production, as this is a standard watch that can be ordered with any logo printed on the dial. It is the regular product that has been sorted out for some reason. And you are buying directly from the manufacturing site without DW putting 400% profit on the price.
If DW is going to sell those for such prices, at least they could pay extra for exclusivity to the manufacturer, but they rather pocket all they can. No wonder why manufacturer sells DW shit themselves.
Hello Ben, great video as always! I wanted to ask you something, I'm currently thinking about purchasing my first watch and I'm really lost on how to choose the right one for me and on picking the right brand that delivers quality and timeless pieces, yet, I still want an affordable watch to not break the bank. The two watches in my list are the Tissot Everytime Large model and the Timex Fairfield Slip-Thru model. What are your opinions about those?
I own a Seiko automatic, and would probably not buy a Daniel Wellington watch even for 5$. But I'd be the first to sign up for Daniel Wellington's marketing course. 😄
Don't be, you bought into a watch that looks good and does what it's supposed to do. If the marketers behind DW hadn't shown you the watch then you would have never bought and appreciated the design.
You can do that but you could just leave out the part with the "real" DW's. Just go ahead, buy a lot of those "fake" watches and sell them on eBay. Just say your wife didn't like it or you wanted to give it to your grandma and she passed away.
Same with Paul Valentine watches. They are stainless steel but I can buy the same for $15 instead of $125. I literally have $15 stainless steel mesh watches with the same quality, weight and sleekness from Aliexpress
It's called dropshipping They buy in bulk from Alibaba or AliExpress And have the watch private labeled which means they get the factory to print their logo on the watch
There's no proof of this at all. You can say a lot of things about DW but their watches have specific details about them which are highly unusual for watches, even for generics. The dinnerplate diameter size and the thin case, these were not common for watches at all. Most of all, why in the hell would DW do dropshipping? This is a silly claim. They're not youtubers, they have the means to hire someone who can communicate to Chinese and build their supply chain to get their product manufactured in China. Buying their product on Alibaba or Aliexpress is leaving money on the table. The reality: the genuine Daniel Wellingtons came first, and then the replica blank templates came after and those can be bought in bulk with whatever inscription.
This same exact video format can be applied to a lot of products, BEATS headphones for example. Just order an original BEATS and two replicas. Same conclusion can be made.
I've worked in fashion all my life and I tell people that when you order say 1000 items in a factory they will produce 10000 and sell the difference on parallel markets. Many big brand fakes are made in the same factory as the originals, you can visit a factory and not know that on the assembly line are both products. A Watch will cost about 1 dollar, sneakers the same, sometimes cheaper, jeans of good quality are 6 dollars and a fully lined pure wool up market mens suit is 12 dollars. T-shirts are 20 cts to 50 cts ,,,, basically you can divide the shop product by 18 and get an idea of factory cost which is not production cost. If a store sells an item at 60% off they are still making a profit. The label I worked for at LVMH paid 16 euros for a purse/handbag ! sold in store at 400 euros.
i am in China these days. .. so should i buy the cheap one ?? yesterday i went to downtown i found that DW are too expensive there. ..then i checked the price online from a Chinese shopping app 拼多多 and it was very cheap. . at shop it is around 990 to 1450 Chinese yuan. .but online the same product is on 158 to 388 Chinese yuan. ...
My dad used to tell me that all these branded products - the ones you buy at the store vs on a third party website/ flea market all come from the same factory, same materials used, same workmanship; just that the ones sold at the store are FAR more exorbitantly priced for "authenticity"
You definitely saved my life. I was about to by one of those watches and I seriously thought it was a great investment. I guess I am going to keep my hard earned money for something much more important. Thanks!
Watches aren’t an investment, they are jewelry… And if you are trying to buy them as an investment; you are wasting your money. Maybe buy stock in a watch/timepiece company. That would be investing. By the way, almost everything is much more important than a watch. You have a clock on your phone. Buy your family food. If saving 100-200$ is saving your life, then you shouldn’t be buying any watches. They are a luxury item.
@@blakeannunziato6837 Do I really have to say that I was 19 at the time and I clearly had some money to spend? No family to take care of or any other charges involved, don't worry. You are judging someone you don't even know. The only thing you achieved was coming off as rude. Have a good day man.
Great Vid!! I remember about 6 years ago when DW was a relatively unknown brand that you would only see sold through online stores, and was constantly on special. In fact I actually bought one during a mid year sale, was like 50% off retail price. I also remember some time later I got a promotional email from that store, and was surprised to see the exact same watch had more than doubled in retail price lol. Actually because of this video I just did a quick search on the same online store I bought the watch from all those years ago, and the same watch has now almost tripled it's retail price.
I know this is probably illegal but has anyone found the same dw watch replica ordered from AliExpress anywhere? I tried searching in AliExpress but wasn't able to find any 🤷🏻♂️
Thank you for this video. I only recently bought my first watch (ever. In 23 years. I know, I know) I was looking up Daniel Wellington, but I figured I'd set aside money and invest in one later. Dumb of me to assume that price equals quality, I know. I just assumed they'd be having great watches, since they're a watch-only company as far as I know (as opposed to clothing brands that also make some watches, riding on their brand names)
Very informative video, thank you! I bought my DW around 4 years ago when the hype wasn’t as huge and was convinced they’re great quality. In defence of DW I must say though that I’ve never once had to replace the battery in it since the purchase, unlike my tissot watch that died after less than 2 years :/
well, expose what? overpricing? you could expose rolex as well following this logic, since now you can find rolex daytona replicas with a 4130 clone movement for around 600$
@@BenArthur and which fashion brand is worth the value for u? Imo a lot of watches that watch youtubers like you recommend watches that are very ugly despite the quality, the only watch that I find pretty is the timex fairfield, but it doesn't ship from US to Malaysia in their official website. The Malaysia website of timex doesn't provide as much option as their US website
Ben, it would've been interesting if you could've possibly disassemble them both and taken a look at the movement and the overall insides. Who knows: maybe even THAT is identical :p
There's this store in Germany called "real" and they are like Walmart. They have a website where they sell their products and I went to that website and I was looking for watches and found a Daniel Wellington for 9999€. I hope no one would ever buy one for that price. You could get a brand new Rolex for that amount of money.
Ben, you definitely should stick to the unbranded originals for your comparisons and not to illegal counterfeits. Not only for proving what these wannabe "luxury brands/watches" are in real, but also to prevent possible legal issues.
In my experience, a fashion brand watch can still offer value. I bought a tommy hilfiger with an automatic eta for 100USD. It was on 50 percent discount though.
I agree that they're overpriced. Obviously marketing costs play a factor in the cost of watches, but that only goes so far. Many people can request a brand name printed on a watch, or their own image printed on the dial for MUCH cheaper than the DW watches.
Hey guys, since editing the video, I've decided to not include the direct from China links in the video description - as purchases of such items may not be technically legal in some viewer's countries. That being said, I'm almost certain the second watch is a real Daniel Wellington. What do you think about that watch?
I have a possible explanantion for why it looks like a DW but not quite 100%:
According to the book "Ghomorra" by Italian writer Roberto Salviano, clothes from Italian luxury brands are made by different factories. Those bid on who can produce cheapest, others can also compete and join that offer, the best products are then bought by the luxury company and sold. Those who do not quite match the standards are usually sold as these "counterfeit" products in dubious places.
This might have happened with this 20$ "DW" as well. The factory started to produce for DW, then the dial ended up being slightly off and the holes not punched according to request, likely due to a communication issue. This then results in DW not buing them from the factory and those selling them on Alibaba for a steal just to cover production cost. Likely the batch got sold out or DW forbade them to sell it which is why the offer can not be found anymore.
You had to compare the unbranded Aliexpress original to DW, not a Chinese DW counterfeit, that is, indeed, illegal to import and sell/purchase within the EU and most certainly also in the US and other Western countries. That said, these are identical watches, most certainly manufactured at the same factory. And so will be the unbranded 5-10$ Aliexpress original.
İt’s the same watch 100% they are dropshipping with their brand on it
Can you please send me the link of the chinese one Ben ? İt’s not illegal in my country :)
I will forever buy seiko/ citizen around 200€ . Tissot around 600. Rolex around 7k
MagnetPull, if they would try that practice in Western hemisphere, they would face legal disputes for trademark infringement, and that won't be cheap at all. They can only do this because they're in China, where no one cares and where the government makes it difficult for Western companies/trademark holders to sue the infringing parties.
Mad respect for spending your own money to do this. I feel like you had a lot of journalistic integrity on this one. Subscribed.
They're definitely made in the same factory
No they're not. Try to research before ypu say dumb stuff
@@eliransabak1447 prove me wrong here, then. Where are they made?
@@james-ch Chinese can replicate everything. If all factories use the same tools they can create the same thing. The reason why it looks the same is because its not hard to make it look the same
@@eliransabak1447 You do know how Daniel Wellington was set up don't you?
Not in a factory, how about a family?
Thats crazy. Love how you are exposing the truth about all these overpriced watches
I guess it's not really 'exposing' as such, more confirming what many people have suspected for a long time
Ben Arthur ‘Twas no more than a theory until you came along
@@bruhdabones Dude, what are you talking about? Maybe for you, everyone who know anything about watches knew this. There are countless pieces on this EVERYWHERE. The thing is you are probably the market aim of this watch, the social network generation who doesnt care to search about anything beforehand.
Capt Mifune Guess you don’t get the joke? Clearly everyone with any knowledge was well aware that DW, MVMT, etc are overpriced. What made you assume that I don’t do research, or that I’m some millennial?
Capt Mifune I love how the hardcore snobs make so many assumptions, only to fall flat on their faces. DW is OK for people to wear, as long as they’re informed about the lack of quality. I’m not a millennial or Gen Z’er, you’re too blinded by your prejudices.
This is it, Chief. Exposing these scammers left and right. Absolutely brilliant.
Demetrios Levi Not really scammers. This is exactly how I run my business as well. It’s all about marketing. Can’t blame the business owners that customers don’t do research
Shawn Shukla Maybe shady is a better word
@@SquarePenix. if your business is run by making sure your customers don't research your product because it's a shit product, then that's a shit business. Just because it's working does not make it honourable.
@Selim Sultan Akbar doesn't matter. A shit product is a shit product. A good business is one who not just prioritizes profit, but the prioritizes the product as well. I don't get why people try to justify shady business like this
It's not a scam. It's exactly like how iphone or samsung sells a $300 phone as $1000 retail, and people still buying them left and right. It's a business. They gotta have profit to cover the overhead costs of staffs, advertising, marketing, etc, and still have extras as income. How much the profit is or should be made, well, that's their prerogative. Whether it's 5% or 50000% of profit, is entirely up to them. Just like it's up to us to choose whether or not we want to buy the watch or not.
Scamming is, for example, they claim 'made entirely in USA', but in truth it's made in China instead. Or 'best watch in the world, better than Omega, Tag Heuer, Rolex, Patek P, etc', when in truth it's nothing close to those brands. Or 'winner of blablabla awards 6 years in a row', when in truth they have never won those awards, or even better, the awards never existed in the first place....
Daniel Wellington, great business model, cheap watches. Wish I had thought of it.
Michael Johnson watch brand. Just flip the M, rotate it to 270 degreess 😂
Amir Izzat you’re not wrong. Basically all the western stuff you buy is made in China plus all the marketing fees included
Beats headphones are a classic example I guess?
They rode the wave of instagram "influencers" at the right time. Someone else did that early for makeup. Someone else for clothing. He saw the writing on the wall and got in at the right time. Even recently in the gaming space Apex Legends paid millions of dollars to "influencers", instead of advertisement, to play their game.
Daniel Wellington didn't graduate 3rd grade. He still writes his D backward. Someone should really tell him.
@Miller Hailiffe its actually Daniel Mellington.
@Wilbur Hillary ha, good one. I am sure he accidentally made the same mistake with the price as well $200 instead of $0.20.
@@Error_404. hahaha, good one
Still he lives in Stockholms most expensive apartment. Unfair world, huh?
his name is Filip Tysander. went to Australia, met a guy named Daniel Wellington, and he thought it would be a nice watch's brand name. Mr Wellington has nothing to do with the company.
Thanks for being one of the few who actually compares these Chinese Daniel Wellingtons to the actual thing.
Why would there be any differences between two $20 watches? lol
Exactly both are trash
production value of both watches is $2 max.
LordArioh spot on... its china quartz not even japanese miyota
Savage
Oof
I have a Casio since 2006 and the only thing I have done is change the battery in 2017. For me is the best brand in terms of price and quality.
the ak47 of watches. it never let you down.
Casio watches are so good both in terms of looks and functionality. The stainless steel never rusts, even when worn in summer, which means sweat, or in the rain. It keeps fairly accurate time. And the glass, while gets scratched under heavy impacts, never breaks.
I wonder why people these days are so dumb to buy watches that have no heritage except for a huge social image!
I got a Casio WVA-430U, since 2010. Once not used for almost half year, when I put it back and got some sunlight it sprang back to life like nothing happened. and it kept the time too.
if you still interested, you can see the name of brand from aliexpress, just pause video at 1:43
Could you please post a comment of the link
For everyone wondering: brands like Orient, Seiko and Casio are worth your money.
My favorite dress watch from these brands is the Orient Bambino
Timex as well
they're really not.
@@GraveUypo wich one isn't?
@@Makul-rt4sz orient
@@dedeyadventwo my orient ray 2 has been 2 years so far with no problems
I've always been suspicious about the quality of Daniel Wellington watches, cause I dont trust their over-advs on social media. And you just confirm my fears. Thank for your video
the only wellington i buy are beef wellingtons
And it is actually more expensive to make
NQ dude you had be laughing for a good while.
Rubber wellies?
Nothing but truth! Lmfao!! 😂👌
*You know it’s bad when the original also looks like a knock off. Lol*
😂
You're the investigative-journalist of our watch world!
Great vid Ben
I bought a watch on Aliexpress for 80p for everyday use/hiking. Basically a watch I wouldnt cry about if it broke. I didn't really expect it to work, but it works and has been for 1.5 years!
I remember when DW contacted me and tried to get me to advertise them on my instagram for their watch....now that I know their watch is actually pretty worthless, I'm even more glad I didn't take the offer loll
So awesome to find you here! I've been following you on IG for a couple of years now, and i absolutely love your drawing style! Keep up the good work :P
How much did they offer you? :D
@@BengVideo they only offer their watch and you need to make 2 posts and one story. I actually did take it, even though I probably shouldn't. I knew they aren't some high quality watches but it was like a major collab for me at the time (even though I know they send them to literally everyone with over 8 k). I like them though, but the thing you put around your wrist (sorry I forgot how to say it lol) isn't that nice or high quality at least on mine. My boyfriend bought them for full price and his are nicer in my opinion but it's not high quality leather either. They're definitely overpriced and people think they're like high fashion or something which is silly
radka slebodnikova okay
Be careful of what you say... a Chinese artist might just copy your artwork and sell it for half of the price.
Only an idiot would buy a daniel wellington. For a $100++ i would prefer a seiko or timex or orient watches. Far more better watches for a better value
And they think they know everything about watch. Mind blow ⌚
Ignorance and Idiocy are two different things.
Whats value in a watch? Truth is, seiko and orient wont get as much compliments as a dw. And I have seikos...but lets be real..to the avg person, DW has a better cleaner aesthetic. No idea why all the Mvmt/DW dislike, watches are accessories. A rolex isnt worth its price to tell the time.
@@jameeyg87 it not worth for the amount of money you spend. And rolex is a watch and jewelry combine
I dont like rolex either cause i dont have that much money lol
But if you want an entry level + budget watch just get seiko, they respect your money, end of story
@@jameeyg87 i know what you mean bro. But i dont buy, i dont collect watches to get complimented by people. I buy it for self satisfaction and for the value 👍
I was about to buy a Daniel Wellington during the black Friday sale. My intuition told me to youtube "Daniel Wellington". Your video was the first one that popped up. Now, I've cleared my shopping kart online. NEXT!! Thanks for the amazing content.
The factory could be selling them by themselves without telling Deniel Wellington.
Chinese factory love profit
Why am i not surprised? Buy a seiko automatic instead. DW is not worth the webpages it’s written on.
Or even a Seiko Quartz, always be careful recommending automatics to people who aren't really 'into watches', it will not do much for them. Make sure they know about well made quartz watches too so they don't think fashion watches and DWs are the way to go when buying a battery powered watch.
DW used Seiko Movt.
hasnat rbm what? You mean a Miyota movement perhaps?
@@asotomayor hmm
@@-10 At this point you can get them a quartz Tissot for less than the DW. Gorgeous watches, quite a few models, some with sapphire.
I’d never waste my money on something like this. I’m glad I watched this video.
I mean i bought a DW watch just because of the style. I know it is overpriced and that it is overhyped but i like simplicity and for me the design on it is just beautiful even if i know i overpaid. Awesome vid tho you earned a sub !
I’ve got a friend in Hong Kong that knows someone who runs the factory, the cost is less than 5 dollar apparently
Hey man can you give me the link
I saw that HK also supplying Marshall headphones. Can u give me the link please.
I need a link
yc ppp link me
Can your friend be my friend, too? And you also.
Just found your channel not that many weeks ago. And I'm absolutely loving your videos. High-quality stuff, keep it up!
Thanks Sebastian!
One word
Dropshipping
I almost bought a DW as my first watch when I didn't know much about watches, thinking it was a good price and value for money. Goes to show that how well marketing and distribution can work if the consumer is not knowledgeable in an area
Why do you think companies like Timex and Seiko do not do social media marketing to keep up with brands like MVMT and Daniel Wellington? Can't think of any reason.
I think about this all the time. My guess is that the companies are older and run by older people who don't see the importance of these modern marketing means. When you stick to your values and priorities, the competition beating you isn't the first thing you worry about. My 2 cents.
As Felix said, I'm sure the bigwigs at the top of the companies are older people, who don't have much of a clue about digital marketing. As a result they almost give companies like DW and MVMT a free reign to dominate Instagram and RUclips. I've emailed Timex before and they never even respond, which sucks and is proof they're behind the times
I live in Taiwan (I am from Belgium) and I can assure you that Seiko or Citizen do a lot of digital marketing here. They don't do social media influencers though, people wearing their watches in the ads are famous local actors and they also do a bunch of ads in the street ^^ I'd say that they don't want to fall in the "fashion watches" category too, having ads all over social media might give them this kind of image
Btw, if you go on a FB page, you go straight to the "info and ads" section to see any ads the page is currently running, here is for Seiko in TW : facebook.com/pg/Seiko.Taiwan/ads/?ref=page_internal
Ludovic got it right. Reputable brands do both, digital and traditional marketing, but in professional way, with real vip and famous models, spending millions, working together with well known design and marketing studios and focusing on branding and value. You will never see Apple, nor Armani, nor BMW, nor Rolex, nor B&O, nor Seiko advertising through screaming influencers and FB/IG ad spams. Guess why...
My friend has a DW watch and she just "hates" people who buy "copies". 🤣 When she herself is paying 5-10 times for the thing just to pay for the Instagram advertisements. 🤣🤣🤣
The solution to the mystery is very simple. The second "replica" isn't a fake watch at all. It is an original one from exactly the same factory. It isn't even moonshine production, as this is a standard watch that can be ordered with any logo printed on the dial. It is the regular product that has been sorted out for some reason. And you are buying directly from the manufacturing site without DW putting 400% profit on the price.
If DW is going to sell those for such prices, at least they could pay extra for exclusivity to the manufacturer, but they rather pocket all they can. No wonder why manufacturer sells DW shit themselves.
Mate, this blew my socks off!
I almost bought this watch! But then i realized I'm broke. So i just settled to 40$ Timex watch... Has not disappointed me up to this date.
Hello Ben, great video as always! I wanted to ask you something, I'm currently thinking about purchasing my first watch and I'm really lost on how to choose the right one for me and on picking the right brand that delivers quality and timeless pieces, yet, I still want an affordable watch to not break the bank. The two watches in my list are the Tissot Everytime Large model and the Timex Fairfield Slip-Thru model. What are your opinions about those?
I own a Seiko automatic, and would probably not buy a Daniel Wellington watch even for 5$. But I'd be the first to sign up for Daniel Wellington's marketing course. 😄
I bought what I think is a Daniel wellington watch in pearl market China for about 30usd. That was 5 years ago. It still works and I still love it
I bought one in my country a year ago for like $80 - I thought I had a great deal and now I feel so ripped off lmao
Don't be, you bought into a watch that looks good and does what it's supposed to do.
If the marketers behind DW hadn't shown you the watch then you would have never bought and appreciated the design.
So you could buy a bunch of real and fake DW watches and then refund the fake ones to DW and then sell the real ones
Both watches are real in this video.
You can just resell them for $100 each, because “my wife didn’t like it.”
@@22Sangre I think you're missing the point
You can do that but you could just leave out the part with the "real" DW's. Just go ahead, buy a lot of those "fake" watches and sell them on eBay. Just say your wife didn't like it or you wanted to give it to your grandma and she passed away.
@@Brainman_2331 She passed away because your tried giving her a Daniel Wellington lmao
The 20GBP one was probably excess stock after slight changes in manufacturing.
Same with Paul Valentine watches. They are stainless steel but I can buy the same for $15 instead of $125. I literally have $15 stainless steel mesh watches with the same quality, weight and sleekness from Aliexpress
It's called dropshipping
They buy in bulk from Alibaba or AliExpress
And have the watch private labeled which means they get the factory to print their logo on the watch
There's no proof of this at all. You can say a lot of things about DW but their watches have specific details about them which are highly unusual for watches, even for generics. The dinnerplate diameter size and the thin case, these were not common for watches at all. Most of all, why in the hell would DW do dropshipping? This is a silly claim. They're not youtubers, they have the means to hire someone who can communicate to Chinese and build their supply chain to get their product manufactured in China. Buying their product on Alibaba or Aliexpress is leaving money on the table. The reality: the genuine Daniel Wellingtons came first, and then the replica blank templates came after and those can be bought in bulk with whatever inscription.
Hey man what you doing here haha I watch your videos good job just wondering what park of the uk are you from ?
This same exact video format can be applied to a lot of products, BEATS headphones for example. Just order an original BEATS and two replicas. Same conclusion can be made.
I’d buy a Dan Henry rather than the Daniel Wellington
**Watches the video**
**Looks down at the Daniel Wellington on my wrist**
"At this moment Snow knew, he fucked up"😂
Aquatic Flow f
Hats off to your research. Make more content such this.
I've worked in fashion all my life and I tell people that when you order say 1000 items in a factory they will produce 10000 and sell the difference on parallel markets. Many big brand fakes are made in the same factory as the originals, you can visit a factory and not know that on the assembly line are both products. A Watch will cost about 1 dollar, sneakers the same, sometimes cheaper, jeans of good quality are 6 dollars and a fully lined pure wool up market mens suit is 12 dollars. T-shirts are 20 cts to 50 cts ,,,, basically you can divide the shop product by 18 and get an idea of factory cost which is not production cost. If a store sells an item at 60% off they are still making a profit. The label I worked for at LVMH paid 16 euros for a purse/handbag ! sold in store at 400 euros.
Daniel Wellington is the 'Beats' of Watches
I like the way you gave credit to other youtubers for using their images 🤣
OMG That's insane! I promoted that brand and now really regret it
Miklashe there is nothing to regret lol all your other highly priced products come from China too
*daniel wellington left the chat*
i am in China these days. ..
so should i buy the cheap one ??
yesterday i went to downtown i found that DW are too expensive there. ..then i checked the price online from a Chinese shopping app 拼多多 and it was very cheap. .
at shop it is around 990 to 1450 Chinese yuan. .but online the same product is on 158 to 388 Chinese yuan. ...
I have never been disappointed since I became a customer of gussl. Their timepieces are of exceptional quality.
You should do an argos watch grab, love my leather strap ben sherman and it only cost around £30
My dad used to tell me that all these branded products - the ones you buy at the store vs on a third party website/ flea market all come from the same factory, same materials used, same workmanship; just that the ones sold at the store are FAR more exorbitantly priced for "authenticity"
You definitely saved my life. I was about to by one of those watches and I seriously thought it was a great investment. I guess I am going to keep my hard earned money for something much more important. Thanks!
Watches aren’t an investment, they are jewelry… And if you are trying to buy them as an investment; you are wasting your money. Maybe buy stock in a watch/timepiece company. That would be investing. By the way, almost everything is much more important than a watch. You have a clock on your phone.
Buy your family food. If saving 100-200$ is saving your life, then you shouldn’t be buying any watches. They are a luxury item.
@@blakeannunziato6837
Do I really have to say that I was 19 at the time and I clearly had some money to spend? No family to take care of or any other charges involved, don't worry. You are judging someone you don't even know. The only thing you achieved was coming off as rude. Have a good day man.
Great Vid!! I remember about 6 years ago when DW was a relatively unknown brand that you would only see sold through online stores, and was constantly on special. In fact I actually bought one during a mid year sale, was like 50% off retail price.
I also remember some time later I got a promotional email from that store, and was surprised to see the exact same watch had more than doubled in retail price lol.
Actually because of this video I just did a quick search on the same online store I bought the watch from all those years ago, and the same watch has now almost tripled it's retail price.
Daniel Wellington is a rip-off fashion watch out of China. You likely bought the replica from the same company that makes the Daniel Wellington.
Fairfield is more accurate. Check it out. I own one Fairfield myself. It's great.
I know this is probably illegal but has anyone found the same dw watch replica ordered from AliExpress anywhere?
I tried searching in AliExpress but wasn't able to find any 🤷🏻♂️
Can you make a video on how to find good watches from Ali express or wherever?
I would suggest that the £20 watch may be from a batch that failed qc and therefore was sold cheaply in the surrounding community.
Thank you for this video. I only recently bought my first watch (ever. In 23 years. I know, I know) I was looking up Daniel Wellington, but I figured I'd set aside money and invest in one later. Dumb of me to assume that price equals quality, I know. I just assumed they'd be having great watches, since they're a watch-only company as far as I know (as opposed to clothing brands that also make some watches, riding on their brand names)
OMG I am so grateful to have come across this video, thank you!
Very informative video, thank you! I bought my DW around 4 years ago when the hype wasn’t as huge and was convinced they’re great quality. In defence of DW I must say though that I’ve never once had to replace the battery in it since the purchase, unlike my tissot watch that died after less than 2 years :/
You showed this, I got baffled and I'm never going to waste time and money on a real Daniel Wellington watch. Thank you!
If you spent $230 on a Daniel Wellington.. well you just played yourself
Can you please me link of AliExpress watch
scroll down and click on the link for the 40mm model, the 40mm one has more reviews
Link for the replica pls (or the name of the watch on AliExpress) pls
Search BORONG
So basically... They're the Beats of watches
@Sorry not sorry Yikes this one bought beats
You basically exposed DW. What an amazing video! absolutely brilliant. This proves that you can sell anything on social media!
well, expose what? overpricing? you could expose rolex as well following this logic, since now you can find rolex daytona replicas with a 4130 clone movement for around 600$
i wonder, the article you showed us on aliexpress doesn't have any brand logo on it, but you got one with a logo?
I know haha, I ordered one without a logo but it arrived with Daniel Wellington on it!
Someone post a link. I can hardly find any dw watches on AliExpress.
sam here, all i find are straps
Links will only be online for 30 minutes
Lenalin Aegyo why?
unsicheresgangbild Western w worldd companies are quick to sue. Sames goes for most replicas on AliExpress on these days
"Brand is latin for irrational markup" - Prof. Scott Galloway.
I still wonder why Daniel Wellington is considered a brand instead of the scam it actually is
Thank you so much for making this video! I purchased the womens watch from the same store as you, and it is literally the exact same as a DW!!
Buy link please
Hi Ben, I think all fashion watches companies hate you... 😂
Haha possibly! The thing is there are some fashion watch brands that offer quite good value, unfortunately DW isn't one of them in my opinion
@@BenArthur and which fashion brand is worth the value for u? Imo a lot of watches that watch youtubers like you recommend watches that are very ugly despite the quality, the only watch that I find pretty is the timex fairfield, but it doesn't ship from US to Malaysia in their official website. The Malaysia website of timex doesn't provide as much option as their US website
Ice!! I was eyeing one of these. That’s settled.
I got mine for 1.5$ on Aliexpress, and the quality is perfect, By that i mean, an exact replica...
link
link
pls send me the link..I have to buy one
Got mine for 35 pound and loving it😍.
Imagine to buy a fake one on Ebay... for around 100$😂
great video, just came back from switzerland with a swatch and a mondaine :D
Ben, it would've been interesting if you could've possibly disassemble them both and taken a look at the movement and the overall insides. Who knows: maybe even THAT is identical :p
Hi VL T, I show the movement comparison later in the video!
@@BenArthur Love the fact that you took the time to respond to my stupidity :)
😂 no worries haha
Hello, have you tried changing the movement,or glass.?
randomly recommended video. thanks! going to check out more videos because i like watches. at least to see them.
Great job man!!❤️ I just bought two of the original watches and i got anxiety now😭
Maybe you could do a follow-up video a couple of months later and let us know how the £20 watch is holding up.
Hi Kenny, I may do so. I'll be doing a dedicated review of the Daniel Wellington in a while, so I mention it in that video at the end 👍
Can you share that website from where you bought that replica
Imagine how much the profit of the company if a reseller only sell it for $20
I just bought Daniel Wellington for SGD249,I like Daniel Wellington brand.No complain
There's this store in Germany called "real" and they are like Walmart. They have a website where they sell their products and I went to that website and I was looking for watches and found a Daniel Wellington for 9999€. I hope no one would ever buy one for that price. You could get a brand new Rolex for that amount of money.
Another great video! Awesome work Ben
You should have also bought the unbranded versions on ali express
I wanted to keep it as close as possible for this comparison. Should I in a future video?
@@BenArthur Yes!
@@xXRealXx then it wouldn't be an illegal forgery
Ben, you definitely should stick to the unbranded originals for your comparisons and not to illegal counterfeits. Not only for proving what these wannabe "luxury brands/watches" are in real, but also to prevent possible legal issues.
@@JustARandomFio It is completely legal to buy counterfeit items for personal use.
In my experience, a fashion brand watch can still offer value. I bought a tommy hilfiger with an automatic eta for 100USD. It was on 50 percent discount though.
Guys, if you have a link to the £20 DW. Please send me the link. Asking for a friend.
U got it yet?
Wow great video very surprising. I know you said the ad was taken off the website but do you by chance remember the manufacturers name?
im a bit late, but can anyone find the link to the replica 25£ watch? cheers
It's gone mate. but you can research on AliExpress.
I can't find any Miyota movement watches for anywhere near that price on AliExpress.
search borong
The Daniel wellington watches we buy from the official website are original or not???
Could please someone send me the link where I could buy this watch ?😁
@Lysol Brother , Can You Send me the link to access her profile in Ali Express ?
Good video Ben, top quality content mate. Do you know if you can knock off Holzkern's or Vincero's from China?
I agree that they're overpriced. Obviously marketing costs play a factor in the cost of watches, but that only goes so far. Many people can request a brand name printed on a watch, or their own image printed on the dial for MUCH cheaper than the DW watches.
Tq i like ur research skills this is very helpful for me 👍🏻❤️