Why Sakaja's Feeding Program Is A Joke, Politicians Like Cheap Things- Janet Ouko
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
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CT would give you 100%
Spot on
The argument in this conversation is candid. Woman with 💯 facts
The Lady she armed
As long as Raila is not the president, I think Kenyans are very happy and contented.
Their children may not be going to school, they may be starving because of high cost of living, they may be walking from Kiambu to town because bus fare is out of reach. But as long as Raila is not the president, they are smiling all the way.
That is Kenya for you.
Jaluo. go and heal
@@alexmusumba2408 I guess the truth is too bitter for u to hia.Jinyonge.
No, u need to get ua head checked. In the meantime, kula ujeuri na kiburi yako.
I think it is a very gud thing Raila is not the president.Because leading a people as foolish and as stupid as u, can kill.Literally.
Who told Luos they must oppose everything
😅
@@johngatehi7587Wat have kuos opposed, u idiot?
They are helpingu love the gvt u chose..Enjoy.Stop wishing we can oppose. Because we won't.
Accept mlichezwa, wajinga nyinyi
In my previous university I was surprised yesterday when a student with government sponsorship grade told me that she is paying ksh 137,700 for the course that originally during UHURU time fees was ksh 38,920. Ruto has messed up with education.
😢😢😢😢 ""it's prayer 😊""
But they pay more than that in private highschools..
@@alexkibe4179 Those who afford such fees in High school can afford the same in universities, though some are forced to attend private high schools by circumstances. However, not all kids going to public universities pass through private high schools.
@@raphael8021 kindly check the statistics. Also study the new reforms. For instance how much was an AVG student paying??? Then get your priorities right. Are you fighting for the common man or the rich class.
@alexkibe..... You have kids in school?
Janet Ouko has a lot of practical sense of how to do things. And she shows that we can do things without over-dependence on Government.
Kudos Madam Janet Ouko. Eloquent, realistic, analytical, focused and resolute. The image of a CS that our parents, teachers and students need in that Ministry of Education. Madam through out this video I have not blinked an eye just watching and listening to you. The state of our education system is indeed dire and pathetic but with the potential rational and reasoning that you have resonated here there is still hope. God bless you Madam and thank once again Spice FM. Cheers.
Kenya is Kenya. If she happens to get there, the tune will be a different one. Trust me.
Kenya is Kenya today because of what we have made, entertained accepted it to be. But as you have penned let her get there if she will God willing and let's see what transpires.@@lawrencenjoroge2663
I like that she is about practicality and reality, not just competition politics. That shows she knows what she is talking about, and is passionate about it.
Nice conversation. Janet👏very candid and informed, you have enlightened me.
She's beautiful
Long live the late Proffesor Magoha he was a hero in making schools work and children were going to school
This very good informed analysis 👏
Very well said .
I agree with this lady there should a structure in running counties and governors should stop this pet projects. Eg like in muranga what is KANGATA CARE when we pay NHIF ??? when my old mother is facing terminal issues will I go to muranga or kenyatta national hospital???
I wish we got you as CS Education , the education sector requires an expert but not a politician.
You can say that again. She's more informed on education matters than the CS himself
Very informative
Great discussion
Well articulated and a firm grasp of issues. You've addressed fundamental issues in a simple and practical way. Keep up, Madam. No wonder they had to kick you out of the Sonko's government.
CT my man , am addicted to listening to your wisdom everyday, good combination with madam🙏
Governor Sakaja was actually in the show last week or so and he said that he's expanding the schools capacity to accommodate more pupils while also trying to adding more schools. As for the feeding program, I believe it's beneficial as it actually boosts pupil retention in the schools as they are motivated to stay in schools because hunger becomes a non issue. And it is a big issue in the poor backgrounds.
I tend to think the NGO enterprise is feeling threatened by government programs that work
How does hunger become an issue wen we were told only 'subsidized' fertiliser is needed in this country?Or no harvest has taken place in this country one year since kk came to power?
@@dukakisomondi8552 what politicians say and what's actually happening are usually two different things. While indeed subsidized fertilizers could help increase food production, there are other factors barring any reprieve like higher fuel costs and higher taxes everywhere without rise in wages. That leaves the same pocket overstretched and so issues like hunger continue to manifest.
@@coltraneweir4810 well said. It’s a much more complicated issue. That’s why the governor should be lauded for taking steps to mitigate hunger in children
@@LikizoB Like which ones?Name one fvt program that works.The day School feeding program started in Nairobi, nobody ate, because of the lacklustre manner it is being executed.
In the 21st century, that School feeding is a gvt program that 'works', wen the rest of the world arr heading to mass, is rather a testament to the lack of imagination by the people being governed.
These are are facts
Janet Muthoni -Ouko is a governance and education rights advocacy specialist. She heads the Elimu Yetu Coalition, which represents the national civil society education movement in Kenya. Ms. Muthoni-Ouko also serves on the Board of Directors of the Global Partnership for Education representing the Developing Countries Civil Society constituency.
She has been at the forefront of citizen demand for education reform in Kenya since 2005
And she also doesn't like Sakaja. She is also playing politics with food issues, her credentials notwithstanding.
@@samuelnjuguna6230
Kenyans like you are very ignorant and gullible and the worse part is, you like commenting on things you don't understand or hardly know.
The future and prosperity of this country lies in the hands of unreasonable citizen like you.
Having said that, did you know? That this noble school feeding programme by Sakaja is not his own and has been running even before he was elected?
Do you also know that the same programme is providing FREE MEALS to pupils in Kiambu County. Yes FREE! And the county goverment of Kiambu is not funding the programme?
If you think nakupea story za jaba enda Ruiru primary school ujione and you will understand this so called "noble" dishi na County programme by Sakaja is a conduit for corruption and that explains why Sakaja ensured this programme received the highest allocation of 1.7B, higher than the county health sector.
You feel so entitled to change her name to what you want, when she herself chooses to be recognised as Janet Ouko?
Very on point. Kids in rural areas had no chance. Right now it’s not a rural problem.
That school feeding programme is questionable, campaign money slash fund maybe? sh. 1.7b X 5yrs is a lot of money. That money will be better utilised to build school infrastructure, hire teachers and school facilities. The current public schools are overcrowded. That money needs to be audited.
That is why it was launched by Ruto
Intelligent ladies are soo cute.. she knows way too much about education than i do
💯 the right mindset
Well explained but if we always reason with our ears or stomach and not with brains we will wait until end of times....one thing that will always be the same n will never change is that if one wants to be in the same level as others you have to put yourself in their shoes so as to understand what needs to be done......the only problem with Kenya is corruption
1. I wish the initiative was 100% free.
There are so many families that cannot afford to give their kids 5 bob per day.
2. Accountability. Can we account for all the funds? How much money is being lost to corruption?
True, there's a school in Dandora with over 600 students in class 8.
This lady really knows the facts in our education system. This is a brain we need to make things right.
Muthoni Ouko knows our education field in and out.
She better than Asha Jumwa ?
@@TheEmatioli😂😂😂😂😂 are you comparing sleep and death 🤭
What did she do when she was the County CEC for education?....All talk
She was our strong student leader in Moi university. Future leader
Integrity should prevail in our actions as leaders
Vivi, Janet.
This woman is beautiful
My 2 cent is- the brain-wash society we live in ( on a polite note ) , has reduced sound expert opinion to mediocrity or mediocre/jokes or emotions and replace it with uneducated political or faith-based opinion that mean nothing and have no footing. Just a case of herd mentality and everyone deserved the current state of the country because no one has courage to do anything. i can asure you, am not part of that herd , i have been listening and i have eyes to see. I am explicitly taking action as a Natural Law Sovereign against this joke of a government that you so call Republic of Kenya. NKT!!
By taking 'action' what do you mean ?
My 2 cents, a brainwashed society is equally prone to being deceived by anyone who calls themselves an expert.
english is a bad language or ambiguous but because of comment-stereotype-sake, you are right, everyone has to learn everything, no excuse - Quote " Know everything, to know nothing" as the divine creator works with only nothing.@@Beatrichay Don`t reduce Bio- intelligence into Humor -its what you called karma. Hope you feel better soon. my best regards. for i am, explicitly -not a said expert or brain-reader, just a seeker of a correct frame of mind and like-minded people. The correct earth date is 0/950 or Gregorian time ( 28-09-2023 ), that reset at 1000 days- just like your good book has always told you
I get her point, despite it being controversial.. whats the point of spending billions of food, when even the school structures are non-existant?
Education sector in kenya is a scam. We are in creative economy. Your creativity will create a job for you . Worthless papers will never get you a job.
Creativity is pointless in a small economy.
Mombasa has had feeding program for more than 5yrs. What's wrong with Nairobi trying to give children a chance. J Ouko dear
WFP reports India now feeds more than 100 million children; Brazil 48 million; China 44 million; South Africa and Nigeria each more than 9 million. For Kenya let the kids get the food atleast it will boost their immunity but it should be every child in primary schools period. They are all Kenyans
Did you hear what she was saying???
Kenya have very many stupid people. In a conversation like this, you missed her point.
Comprehension, it’s like you did not understand what she’s saying. Rewind, you may be a slow learner
Poverty is self generated in kenya by the government. Kenyans must remain impoverished and poorer for the polktirickians class remain in power. Easy rule over poorer citizenry.
Machogu and Janet Muthoni.
Is like darkness and Light.
Im compiling a petition against the Kenya kwisha regime for inordinate delays and failure to release capitation funds for 22/21 20%.
School feeding program. Hiyo ni scam ya sakaja loot pesa get from donations from foreign investors. Hawezi work. .Sakaja is stooges ya state house.
My next education cs, but with which president😢
When education was first introduced to us by the missionaries, the aim was to produce, nurture and populate our communities with enough reasonable, learned, accountable and ethical individuals. There was also the objective of raising solid, holistic and accountable leaders. When education became a politics, democracy & rights battleground, we lost it. Indeed, what the government is doing currently is very unreasonable. But also, Muthoni and other global activists are themselves not being honest. Ultimately, their AGENDA is to make education another rights issue whose end product is something that's known as "open societies." Until we can get an education system that gives us value in form of solidly established leaders and communities, we need to continue praying.
I disagree. Education was one of the tools of colonialism. The aim was to generate a social African elite to propagate the interests of the British. Together with Christianity, it was also used to destroy African social structures and to integrate Africans into European work ethics with the overall aim of producing goods for metropole markets. Let us not imply that colonialists were here to help us in any way
Sounds like the education system is facing many challenges.
am just following how long the feeding program will last. it will not be too long
Kila mtu siku hizi is throwing around "capitation" as if it's synonymous with funding anything, or worse, providing capital🤣. First time I've heard someone use it correctly is Janet here in reference to how gava is (or not) adequately allocating capitation to schools.
This is why development and politics should not be in the same office. Bash NMS all you want but they showed us how separating the two can work. Yes, it was not 100%, but it was an idea that should have been fine-tuned.
The feeding program is just a Moi type program which makes it so easy to steal.
Were can we take our views
Janet is very woke matters education why do we have the wrong leaders at the wrong places my heart bleeds for children they get bogus education cos the system is designed to fail them theres no single public school in my ward 100yrs later
The problem in our education is money and corruption how much more are parents paying in schools named tuition,project ,school buses etc nobody accounts for these money
Who questions the Uncle Judges in Kenya?
Thomas Sowell argues the actual consequences of Public Policy are more important than the intentions of policy makers.
We all know Sakaja's intentions are noble but we all know what good intentions lead us too.
I think janet lives in a different country than Kenya 🇰🇪.
Many people go without a meal in this City. You need to go to those schools and get to understand how the teachers has been struggling to teach a child with an empty stomach
Exactly. She is overlooking such a basic truth - humans, especially young humans, need food to function.
Is feeding children at the core of county government function? The hospitals are in terrible state, yet feeding program is the main concern? Are you able to isolate which kids can afford food at home vs who cannot?
@@calvoh9715 The two are not mutually exclusive. I can't claim to be up to date with all the going ons of county governments but it can't be assumed that the hospital issue isn't being dealt with because a school feeding program exists.
@@BeatrichayChildren going hungry in schools is it not an indictment to Ministry of Education?….am not saying feeding children is the issue here but at this day and era we are still having hunger issues as a nation then there is something seriously wrong with this country.
Whether the kids go to school or not, they will still eat. When they stay at home all day, do they not eat? The lady is not saying that a feeding program is bad. We would all like kids to eat well. She is just saying that it is not the priority and is not the best way to use 1.7 billion. We have more pressing needs that will make kids not get proper learning and those should be addressed first.
I like Janet..I have worked with her and I will I’ve such great knowledge should be utilized in kenya. I f I was the president Janet could be me CS Education and support her 100%..
Kabisa
Others not amenable to accountability and rigorous scrutiny includes the Kenyan president, judged and priests/imams/sheikh
CBC issues cannot just be reduced to merely underfunding. There are other issues like watered down curriculums, the inability of the new system to foster a culture of critical thinking. I mean what working system was it modelled after? Is it a cruel experiment on future generations to dumb them down? Look at India and what they are achieving at the global stage, their system emphasis is to develop a pool of scientifically inclined manpower, they are reaping dividends from this. Reducing CBC to funding issues is NOT the issue. Even Kenyan workers previously have flourished in technical capacities, a result of 8-4-4.
Janet should be and has the capacity to propel education in Kenya to reach the Seychelles level instead of the Machogu politisizing education 😂😂 Yawa Janet ouko tell them that truth will need to know
She is hitting the nail on the head. "You cannot unknow, what you know!"
This education system is rotten. Needs sober minds only.
Sakaja is a clown. Let him clean the city.
The problem in Kenya is that everybody knows everything and has an opinion.
Good conversations but I wish the interviewers would talk less and ask clear concise questions.
Sakaja should be a one term governor
he should serve two terms. one in office and another in jail
1.7B to feed 250 learners.
Boarding schools are easier for both parents and students.
On school feeding, the fact that we don't have enough schools is a problem, but so is the fact that some kids aren't getting food. Considering the hierarchy of needs, I would go with feeding children. To prove my point, flip the situation: say a politician ensured that schools were built and/or expanded but it was discovered that the kids had no food? There would be an uproar. "Mheshimiwa, mtoto wangu atakula hio desk??!" People would make the same complaint, that the politician wanted to do something shiny instead of doing the right thing. I agree, though, that any intervention, especially those requiring huge amounts of taxpayer money, should be backed by evidence. Still, calling school feeding a joke is a slap in the face to those who need the help.
I also find it curious that she doesn't recognise that school feeding is both an education issue AND a health issue. Let your food be your medicine and your medicine be your food. Proper nutrition is vital for the mental and physical development of growing children and is clearly overlooked by this education expert. It would be interesting to know how stunted growth due to poor nutrition affects the learning capabilities of students. Might it be a mistake to have them seated in state-of-the-art labs but unable to understand what they are being taught? She should look up the devastating effects that starvation has on a person's mental health.
She is not against school feeding. She is against it being prioritized by the Nairobi City County Government. School feeding is of course a noble course but it should be handled by the concerned ministry at the national level. Otherwise, what's the reason for having a Constitution? It's shameful for the Nairobi City County Government that only 11% of children of ECDE age can attend formal ECDE schooling in Nairobi. They ought to focus on fixing this
Your argument dose not stand a chance in the education conceptual realm
@@teddymurigi7064 It's not how she came off to me. My summary of her statements - "parents can feed their own children". Also, is it ethical to prioritise desks over food? She implies that would be the hard decision. I say it's the hard-hearted one. 🙏🏾
@@cleavlandbrown1615 Please apply yourself a bit more to explain your position.
@@Beatrichay Her point is; the argument that the high levels of truancy in Nairobi public schools can be attributed to hunger amongst the learners, is not backed up by any data. On the contrary, countless research reports indicate parents shy away from registering their kids in schools because of the levies charged. So between the 5/ required for lunch, and the 3000/ required to buy the desk so the learner can actually be enrolled in the school, which one is the government's role?
Jumping from complaining one topic to another does not solve any problem and you have no answers. Feeding school children is not bad because there could some come hungry.
You didn't seems to hear when she said that there have already been 13 reports on what needs to be done as a solution to the Ministry of Education. So if you're asking for a solution the GovKe has all these recommendations at hand and are just unwilling to implement/fund the shared discourse...(cause they're no two ways about it)
Populist things offer kickbacks to cronies and tenderpreneurs. Being a leader in Kenya is like being an influential Director of the company(region) you lead
One could argue that there exist more lucrative kickbacks in what this lady is proposing than in a school feeding program.
So at the end of it all what do we need for our education system because we cant accept to say all is well!
@@Beatrichay
@@raphael8021 As you well know need all of it. The school feeding, the classrooms, more schools... But most importantly, as implied by your comment, we need to trust that the money for these projects will be used well.
The elephant in the room is KE has a population bomb problem not a climate change issue. There's a minority of cat spinsters on the fringes of society.
What Sakaja said is that he went in a public school and asked the children what they want and the children did not say they want a school bus or a football but the children said they want food and that's why Sakaja decided all children in Nairobi will get food as long as he's in power which for me i think it's a good idea. Building of classes and equipping of those schools should go hand in hand with the feeding program bcoz in Nairobi especially slums children are starving.
So the Governor of Nairobi is acting based on what the children in a public school told him? And that would suit all other public schools in Nairobi?
My friend if you've lived in Nairobi slums children are suffering and the slums occupies a large geographical part of Nairobi
Fair. The trouble with living in a third-world country is that we have many high-priority needs 😭.
Hahaha because you are an insulator to knowledge
How easy is it for a blind person to lead sighted people?
A very big crisis very many kids about to be wasted
You not only brag how educated you are, also you are killing education system.
You can tell the people who make their money by criticizing government without offering solutions. What a waste of our time
@@oscarrobin5462 This is the challenge we have with our elites.
yani wewe ulitoka bure😂😂😂
She critiques because she has the solutions.
You mean you've watched bure tu
I think Kenya is just a poor country with poor leaders
I believe this lady missed the mark as well with regards to quality education
This is a commentator on the education sector not an education expert
She just another joker in studio
she is making some sense but i have detected some azimio components in her conversation
Such issues are neither about Kenya Kwanza or Azimio...they're about Kenyans!
@@juliusrandich9726
Spot on
Azimionated
I checked out on minute 12. Your guest adds nothing in terms of a constructive interrogation of the issues in the education sector. She takes a mallet to government but doesn't note the externalities like the debt and other commitments such as healthcare. Funding issues were also true under president Park Chung Hee in the 60s-70s as he built South Korea. Guess what.... they got there. No push back from the presenters because they themselves don't have the facts on education.
debt the government has been stealing and we pay for non-existent project. the taxes collected or event the so called debt was enough to fund our education system even the healthcare you are talking about. Any debt borrowed should be for development as per the constitution. and what has the government been doing with the huge debts beside expensive infrastructure. the current government has borrowed and not shown the development projects it has funded. The problem is theft in the government so should check those facts first before coming to call out others on fact checking while you are giving arguments that dont hold water!
My childens. lavington primary scĥool has never gotten that food