Hey man, great tutorial - having been a Maschine and Ableton user for many many years I've hit many road blocks getting jammed ideas out of Maschine into my DAW so I'm able to refine and finish them in a more capable environment. This tutorial looks like it's got all the tips and tools I'll need to make most things work.
Revealing tutorial man!! Many thanks! I've been looking to this kind of integration and is your video the one that explained all clearelly and without confusing turns. REALLY THANKS!!
This tutorial is everything man, thank you!! Finally got my Maschine all set up and it works wonderfully in my workflow. Wouldn't have been possible without this summary
Nice one, this is by far the most comprehensive guide on how, and most importantly why you would be doing this! thanks for sharing. Most advice on this is seriously lacking in the why
Wow! Really worth to watch this tutorial to the end! Will use this information to make a new setup! Finally I can use my NI Instruments the way I always wanted! Thanks
This is such a helpful video. I have a Maschine Mk1, the very first, and I’ve been frustrated to find the complete lack of support for it and over-saturation of tutorials for the new Mk3 and +. So this is really helpful, but I really just wish that all of the amazing things my Maschine controller can do, I could do in Ableton with it. Being able to swap through kits and see waveforms in the sampler… the hardware does so much in the software it’s made for, and but is completely neutered as a Midi Controller alone.
Thanks for the info mate! Can't find a reason to use the last bit of info though, really fiddly like you mentioned, seems counter intuitive to workflow !
That was very informative and useful for sure as I've been looking to integrate Maschine with Ableton. I am hoping to somewhat bang out my drums in Maschine and switch to Push 2 with layering in my synths cords etc! so hopefully I can figure it out from what you've showed here. Thank you!
+Michael Ford I kinda have the same wish - have maschine as a dedicated drum machine, it feels so good for drums! Thanks for the kind words Michael! If you have any breakthroughs let me know! ✌️️
Very helpful video friend , But just with one external instrument dragged to c1 , u can click all in receive check box instead of c1 note so that u can tigger all the pads from ableton push
Great video, thank you for posting it. (Ableton will probably end up being grateful as well for the number of people like myself who migrate from lite to standard). One quick question.. do you have any insight on whether this overrides the internal routing of Maschine's perform effects? I could definitely see still wanting to use the touch strip from inside Ableton.
Dear friend , just adding a pitch midi effect in front of drum rack and transposing it to -24 solves the c1 c3 issue with ableton and maschine, its very easy
So I've tried to set this up this evening in Ableton, and while step one worked like a charm... the drum rack part is where I got stuck :( Looks like after you made this video, there have been some updates to the Maschine 2 software, and we no longer have the same setup for routing the MIDI output of the groups :( Where you have the option to tick "active" ...we no longer have that option; we only have "Routings" OFF / Manual / Drumkit. Really not sure where to go from here. I know I'm commenting on something ancient lol, but if you had an idea - it would be awesome :D
Hey man this is so useful and detailed, thank you so much! I wonder why anyone would use Maschine for Ableton instead of a push? Especially the new Push 3. I don't own a push, came from Maschine Studio/Logic where it's well integrated. Also as this vid is 7 years old, I guess NI added a drumkit mode for MIDI input since then. Spans drums across pads rather than pitched up the keyboard.
Hi, very nice tutorial. But one question is still open (to me): Can i also use (by following your guide) my maschine hardware to enter drums without changing Maschine into Midi Mode? I am using 2.6.5
HI, very usefull tutorial that explained my biggest issues however I'm stuck on issue where in Maschine i have a group with multiple sounds and one of them I've used in keyboard mode. After all routings to Ableton, midi for particular sound which has been played in keyboard mode triggers different sound from maschine group instead of changing pitch. Any idea how to go around this one?
Thanks for this tutorial. Every time I try to drop the pattern in ableton scene it's split in as many track as the drumkit tracks are, but every track is mapped on C3. I notice a small different in MIDI icon you use to drag&drop MIDI pattern; on my Maschine it lacks the 4 dots above the MIDI icon. It is a MIDI group? Many thanks
great video, very helpful! what screen recorder are you using for this? I've been trying a couple, but none of them are able to record sound coming from Maschine.
Great vid thanks! How do you add automation to the external instrument though to control a parameter in Maschine? I can only add macros into the Maschine midi track not the external instrument one
wow, that was proper in-depth! thank you! do you have a tutorial where you can sequence from maschine 2 stepsequencer into ableton live? same like when you would use your mouse on a midi clip and enter each note but now triggered/played via maschine2
+andy slate you're welcome! If you mean using maschine's step sequencer to dynamically control an actual ableton clip, I don't think that's possible natively... off the top of my head. You can send the midi out of maschine and control an ableton track, but when it comes to recording midi you'll find that it doesn't 'sync', and removing notes from the sequence in maschine doesn't remove them from the live clip...
What happens if inside your drum kit in Maschine you used pad mode to transpose individual notes of an instrument (i.e kick)? What would be the best routing so as to not lose those pitch changes when arranging in Ableton?
Thanks for creating this! I am getting stuck at one point. I have followed everything 100% up to the point (6 minute marker) where you drag the midi clip into ableton, set the Maschine input to external 2 but when I create a new scene and play it, the audio is not playing through ableton. In my external instrument, I am seeing the MIDI bars light up but the Audio From has no metering. Any suggestions? I've been trying to get this working for months, to no avail.
This is a really well put together and delivered video, however it's also the final nail for me and Maschine 2. Too much compromise, not enough benefit and I still can't use the Studio/controller to trigger Live. A regular pad controller and drum racks/Battery would do most of this so much easier. I guess Maschine is cool for actually programming drums and chopping samples, but using it as a standalone is too limited and as a VST is over complex and I still need another pad controller to operate Live itself.
Hi. Thanks fo the video. The way you were setting things up towards the end of the video is the way I would ideally like to have maschine set up. Ideally what I would like to do is have a drum rack in ableton to trigger a drum rack in maschine with each sound on it's own channel as you were doing towards the end of the video. When I do this though does that mean that if all 16 channels are taken up by the drum rack that I'm not able to have any other sounds from maschine routed into ableton?
they are already a template in the file " program .. native .. maschine ressource template ableton ( copy to the file ableton live controler remote etc )
@@kaafaa5944 The template you are talking about is a template for remote-controlling ableton through your maschine (hardware) device. The template described in the video is for routing the maschine (software)-tracks to ableton. Two different things. Or am I missing something?
Hello. Thanks for the tutorial. At around 9:34, on the MIDI input section I can see you have the "Active" toggle, Root note & Thru toggle and channel all - for some reason on my Machine setup, I can only see "Key Mode" which is set to manual, "Source" set to none, "Channel" set to all, "Start note" and "Thru" toggle set to off. Any reason why this is and I can't see the active toggle?
I’ve watched a dozen Maschine/live integration vids and this is best. Any one know how to set a drumRack like this and use the pads to play drums and record midi in live. If no input is selected then only the recorded midi notes play, but you can’t record notes in😢
This is incredibly helpful. However I can't figure out why my app doesn't have the same settings at 12m00s (Group/Input/Midi Routings). Comments below point this out as well. I've got no idea how to get my patterns from Maschine to ableton to have them trigger the hardware.
My biggest hope when i bought live 10 was that i would be able to record midi patterns in machine and arrange/mix them (also to be able to mix individual drum sounds) in my host DAW (while using my control surface mixer). Pretty sure this is what every DAW user wants to be able to do when they spend their hard earned money on a machine regardless of what DAW you're using. Since it proved to be hopeless in FL studio i bought Live 10 Suite (i might add that i'm a broke college student so all of this has been quite the investment). i thought i had it all figured out after i started using this method i was able to get the sounds/chords to work but i ran into trouble when i tried to use his Audio track method to mix the drum sounds, Since im using my el cheapo bcf2000 to try and mix, the drum rack method doesn't work how i want it to i can't use my mixer to control the volume of the drum sounds at all (while using the drum rack method). i was able route the sounds (using the audio track method) but i can't arrange the drums as a clip in the arrangement view. i can only arrange it if i keep all the drum sounds on the same track and this PISSES ME OFF if ANYONE has an idea of what im doing wrong please reply i would be thrilled to figure out how to get my drum pattern midi on to one (or several doesn't matter to me) clip(s) and be able to arrange it while routing the audio to separate audio tracks for mixing. I'll keep trying until i deem this goal of mine to be impossible. im not about to use MACHINE as my main daw when i have ableton live 10 Suite and FL studio 20 producer edition at my disposal.
For some reason my destination & external inputs keep going back to group instead of being locked into the channel I set. Any clue why or what setting I can change?
This was really helpful. Yet, when I trigger a synth, it is also playing my drums... Quite a few weird quirks. Can't seem to have this behave consistently. Anyone else having this issue?
I gave up this way because it's too time consuming. Now i just choose 1 midi channel, and put 8 groups in, and set the midi key range (in maschine midi settings, start note = c-2, next one 16 notes up etc)). We have 128 notes in 1 midi channel so that comes out to 8 groups (8x16). This way if you have a 61 key controller you have acces to almost 4 groups... at once. I use push to sequence, and maschine for editing the sound. this way it's really, really fast. try it you'll be surprised. I discovered this way because i use reason, wich doesn't work with internal sepearate midi channels (no multitimbral vst support). This way you can use it in reason.
This is a great tutorial, thank you for uploading this! I have a question, what is you have the typical side chaining compression bass/kick in Maschine, but you don't want to separate every drum track into several independent tracks, do you loose that compression if you use the drums in Live as a group?
+Gina Monk thank you! Essentially, if you choose to route your audio from maschine into live you'll have to lose your maschine routings and thus redo your effects chains. It's simple in live but a bit of a pain to separate your tracks for things like sidechaining kicks. What you could do is send just your kick to another channel and the rest of the group to a consolidated channel, which should sort things? I'd have to check but I think that'd be fine..? Good luck!
Thank you very much! I have taken note of your comments. I have a few projects to work on using your advice, let's see if something else comes up. Cheers!
+BeatDistrict hi! Yes, it should be - as long as you're set up right and that may involve setting up a separate midi channel that accepts push inputs and sends it to your expected channel, just to make sure you don't end up with unexpected things on multiple channels. You might have to go 'off script' from the video depending on your needs, I'll look into the feasibility and use cases - what would your workflow be? ✌️️
Thank you for your fast response. Well. At home I only use my Ableton Push 2. But when I go to my studio, I want to be able to use the rest of the features of the Push 2 AND use my Maschine to control the drums. In addition to this, it's good to know that I use the presets of audiomodder.com. Maybe you're familiar with them. As far as I understand these presets are built up the same as you guys show in this video.
Can you tell me if there's a way to run standalone maschine 2 into pro tools onto seperate tracks and not in midi mode? I'd like to retain the functionality of maschine mk3 micro.. Thanks
Nice video, however I'm having issues with configuring it like you have. Perhaps its lack of technical understanding and am missing something or maybe there has been an update to the software since releasing this tutorial. Using Maschine software 2 and Ableton 10. One of the issues I'm having is when I'm lifting the midi form Maschine it lifts each sounds midi as a separate scene in Ableton. Any advice would be great. Also wondering if you do remote access support as I have little patience for setting up these configurations when they start to not work so Chris if you are open to helping set this up let me know how to get in touch with you. Thanks
Maschine 2.8/2.10 now has different GROUP OUTPUT MIDI routing settings "DrumKit or Manual or Off". Also inside Maschine, right clicking Groups up at the top (A1, B1, etc) allows you to adjust "Group MIDI Batch Setup", and has choices of either "Sounds to Midi Notes" or "Sounds to Midi Channels". The reason I'm poking around is this set-up in the video isn't working for me, with all the latest stuff Aug2020. When I arm a track in Ableton, Maschine isn't following, always playing whatever group is highlighted inside Maschine. driving me crazy. I really wanted the promiseland: [One Ableton track per Maschine group], with volume control as you try to do here. And ideally, as a drumkit or as an instrument with midi note chromatic playing capability.
After several hours and searching in the manual of maschine I finally found it. In the group settings of maschine you have to select manual, then select the midi channel you want to reseve your midi notes from. After that you have to change the start note until it matches your drums. But at first to extract your whole midi clip into one track in ableton it has to be set to drumkick. Quit stupid.... Why is Maschine like that. Here is the link of the manual where it is desciped(in German) support.native-instruments.com/hc/de/articles/115005813489-MASCHINE-2-Drum-Kits-mit-MIDI-Noten-in-Ableton-Live-ansteuern
@@ariankonig5815 well that is pretty brilliant. That is the one piece I have not figured out yet. Which took some work. After much torture, I do have multiple Maschine kits easy-to program Midi in Ableton and using Maschine Studio Controller template. But this missing piece will finally make it easier to move MIDI clips from Maschine into ABL. THANK YOU
Hey. Does anyone happen to have an example file of how to get this working now? I’m still trying to figure out. Lots of tutorials on setup as external device but I still can’t figure out what I’m doing wrong. Thank you.
Great tutorial. It was a bit tough to follow at times and now I have even more questions. In the end you ended up routing to channels 14, 15, and 16 mainly because I think those channels were not taken up. So what do you do if you want say 3 maschine drum groups that each fill up all 16 channels?
Sorry I never replied to this before! 16 channels is quite a lot for mixing purposes. Maybe best to think of each channel as a bus and do some basic mixing into the bus from maschine’s mixer to start with. If you really, really need every channel you can get, perhaps try loading multiple Maschine plugins. I’d caution against it though, because you’re creating a lot of work by micromanaging your sounds in that way…
Great video. Thanks for showing us how you can achieve a very interesting integration between Live and Maschine but I agree that it is a very tedious process, with all the manual mapping for each group. Either NI or Ableton should invest into a better solution as these two products complement each other in a very interesting way. By the way, what are your thoughts on Maschine Jam? Would it be an easier controller for handling both Ableton and Maschine, or is Push 2 and Maschine still the best combination for music production?
+André Pinto good question! I think maschine jam looks great, but I haven't yet used it... it looks like it would shine in maschine rather than as an extra ableton controller, and for me the things that push does really well are the simple integrations with Live like browsing, converting on the fly, slicing samples and so on. If maschine had real time timestretching, linear sequencer, and audio tracks, I'd perhaps use it over live more - but as it stands I use Live instead of Maschine rather than in conjunction lately.
I don't use maschine's scene sequencer. All the arrangement is done in Live. I use the pattern sequencer though. Maschine's libraries are so good. Are you sampling directly in Live then?
+André Pinto lately yes, I like the realtime timestretch options and the 64 pads on push. There's swings and roundabouts always though, maschine has a much better library browse imo!
It still works, but the latest updates have made it possible to save some of the routings in the plugin to make it simpler if you have a rock solid workflow...
Definitely a great video, but holy moley is it just the most backwards way to integrate maschine into ableton. at this point you might as well export the individual clips and load them into ableton 1 by 1. i love maschine, but every time i want to really polish a track, i end up becoming frustrated by this shit and just dont bring it into ableton at all. this is the opposite of quick, and i cant imagine doing this every single time i have a new idea.
its just completely ridiculous. I love Maschine but I will never buy another item until they give us the freedom to work seamlessly in our Daw or at least a midi clock sync to every major daw that works without delay
Thank you. You just saved me from having to watch a 30 minute video only to probably come to the same conclusion. Efficiency and speed are everything for my workflow and personality. That's why I literally barely touch my Ableton Push, but still use it for specific purposes. I just got the Maschine and it makes me realize I am going have to design my own custom template or find my own custom way to integrate Ableton and Maschine.
I totally agree also, it ruins the work flow. No one can seriously solely work in Maschine to finish a track. Does anyone know of any other ways to easily integrate Maschine into Ableton? Maschine could be great, if it allowed easier integration. Surely that would be the point of a great midi controller / drum / mpc, or any instrument, is for versatility in order to make great music.
Kudos for breaking that down so concisely! Interesting but IMHO just bounce audio... this shit is ridiculous.. I have been using maschine as a VST within ableton for years and I also love it as a stand-alone on a second computer. I have midi synced it to and from everything at one point or another, but I have come to the painfully obvious conclusion that as always; less is more.. Keep it simple. sync or vst maschine to ableton, bounce audio out of maschine for arrangement within ableton. Sounds good?.. print it.. move on. $.02
I recall there should be a midi effect in Ableton Live that you could just drop in front of the Drum Rack to shift the midi notes down by 2 octaves and before all the External Instruments on the "Pads" to shift them up again? Then just save that as an Instrument Rack and reuse it without needing any tweaking in the midi clips or in Maschine ever again. EDIT: In your setup only one midi device would be needed, as you already tell the Drum Rack to shift the notes.
+Noxoreos I'll have to go back to my notepad because I'm pretty sure that I tried and abandoned using midi utilities to achieve this but I can't remember why... you might well be right though! I'll look into it when I get back off my holiday - the latest maschine update allows setting project defaults of midi routing so this tutorial could probably be made easier ✌️️
Hey man, great tutorial - having been a Maschine and Ableton user for many many years I've hit many road blocks getting jammed ideas out of Maschine into my DAW so I'm able to refine and finish them in a more capable environment. This tutorial looks like it's got all the tips and tools I'll need to make most things work.
Really good tutorial, this was the one that brought Maschine back into the groove with ableton for me, thanks.
Beautiful man, you're the only one who could help me, I watched 8 videos and yours was the only one that saved me
Revealing tutorial man!! Many thanks! I've been looking to this kind of integration and is your video the one that explained all clearelly and without confusing turns. REALLY THANKS!!
This tutorial is everything man, thank you!! Finally got my Maschine all set up and it works wonderfully in my workflow. Wouldn't have been possible without this summary
Thank you, I will try it. I've just got Live today and all my arrangements are on my Maschines.
Very nice well done tutorial, very thought out and clear I actually love you
definitely the most useful ableton/maschine integration tutorial i have seen! thank you very much! :)
+iam_DMT ✌️️
This is extremely helpful... it is going to drastically change my workflow in such a great way
Nice one, this is by far the most comprehensive guide on how, and most importantly why you would be doing this! thanks for sharing. Most advice on this is seriously lacking in the why
+ross winter thanks! glad you found it useful ✌️
that first beat played was crazy
Great tutorial, man! Thank you so much, really helped a lot! Cheers
Brilliant tutorial very professional &informative👏👏
BROTHER, YOU ARE THE BEST!!! You oooh really helped me!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
Wow, this is the SUCH a helpful video. Thank you! Only thing that would be a helpful add is some timestamp chapters.
Great job
I didn't know this video existed! Thanks bro! Really grateful.
Awesome Dude! You cracked it! Thanks
Thank you so much this helped a lot!!!! You saved my life
Wow! Really worth to watch this tutorial to the end! Will use this information to make a new setup! Finally I can use my NI Instruments the way I always wanted! Thanks
+Tom Solid you’re welcome!
This is such a helpful video. I have a Maschine Mk1, the very first, and I’ve been frustrated to find the complete lack of support for it and over-saturation of tutorials for the new Mk3 and +. So this is really helpful, but I really just wish that all of the amazing things my Maschine controller can do, I could do in Ableton with it. Being able to swap through kits and see waveforms in the sampler… the hardware does so much in the software it’s made for, and but is completely neutered as a Midi Controller alone.
What did you go with? I feel the same. This isnt going to work great with my plugins and workflow. It’s a huge effort to use it.
Wow..This helps a lot..Thank you.
Wow! This video is so helpful, thanks a lot🙏
This tutorial was well detailed. Earned a sub. I can confirm this is legit.
Thanks for the info mate! Can't find a reason to use the last bit of info though, really fiddly like you mentioned, seems counter intuitive to workflow !
Love your stuff! Big help!
my fav and tysvm for this tutorial it was helpful❤️
That was very informative and useful for sure as I've been looking to integrate Maschine with Ableton. I am hoping to somewhat bang out my drums in Maschine and switch to Push 2 with layering in my synths cords etc! so hopefully I can figure it out from what you've showed here. Thank you!
+Michael Ford I kinda have the same wish - have maschine as a dedicated drum machine, it feels so good for drums! Thanks for the kind words Michael! If you have any breakthroughs let me know! ✌️️
Thank you soo much for making this video it has finally increased my happiness with using this software haha
Thanks! Very helpful for me..
THIS is a very cool way of doing things. Midi & audio on the same Ableton Channel!! Thanks!
+Damien Bouyou you’re welcome!
Hi! Great video...
With maschine mk3 the routing seams easyer.
Can you do another tutorial with thw new version and Ableton 10?
Thanks
Very useful. Thanks very much!!
Very helpful video friend , But just with one external instrument dragged to c1 , u can click all in receive check box instead of c1 note so that u can tigger all the pads from ableton push
Great video, thank you for posting it. (Ableton will probably end up being grateful as well for the number of people like myself who migrate from lite to standard). One quick question.. do you have any insight on whether this overrides the internal routing of Maschine's perform effects? I could definitely see still wanting to use the touch strip from inside Ableton.
Thanks for this great video - very happy with the explanations...;-) - Johan
Thank you very much mate :D your video helped me a lot :D
thank you so much! this tutorial is the best by far!
+snoopyoverthehills you're welcome, glad it was useful! 👍
boss!
ITS REALLY WORKED LOL THANK YOU DUDE
still the best ableton/maschine integration tutorial in 2021
Dear friend , just adding a pitch midi effect in front of drum rack and transposing it to -24 solves the c1 c3 issue with ableton and maschine, its very easy
todo funciona, eres el mejor
Very thorough ! thx :)
So I've tried to set this up this evening in Ableton, and while step one worked like a charm... the drum rack part is where I got stuck :(
Looks like after you made this video, there have been some updates to the Maschine 2 software, and we no longer have the same setup for routing the MIDI output of the groups :(
Where you have the option to tick "active" ...we no longer have that option; we only have "Routings" OFF / Manual / Drumkit.
Really not sure where to go from here. I know I'm commenting on something ancient lol, but if you had an idea - it would be awesome :D
Hey man this is so useful and detailed, thank you so much! I wonder why anyone would use Maschine for Ableton instead of a push? Especially the new Push 3. I don't own a push, came from Maschine Studio/Logic where it's well integrated. Also as this vid is 7 years old, I guess NI added a drumkit mode for MIDI input since then. Spans drums across pads rather than pitched up the keyboard.
Very nice man! Anyway I just wished that Maschine would once and for all allow for recording without previously setting the pattern length.
Hi, very nice tutorial. But one question is still open (to me): Can i also use (by following your guide) my maschine hardware to enter drums without changing Maschine into Midi Mode? I am using 2.6.5
HI, very usefull tutorial that explained my biggest issues however I'm stuck on issue where in Maschine i have a group with multiple sounds and one of them I've used in keyboard mode. After all routings to Ableton, midi for particular sound which has been played in keyboard mode triggers different sound from maschine group instead of changing pitch.
Any idea how to go around this one?
Thanks a lot! My maschine started collecting dust because of the stupid arrangement logic. This video made me to use my maschine studio more often.
+Anton P you're welcome - glad you found it useful!
Likewise.
simply awesome.. :) thanx a lot..
You’re welcome! Glad you enjoyed - more coming soon, I have something in the works!
Id like to see a video on Machine Scene automation in Abelton. How you would set it up and how to record it in arrangement view.
Ace content 🔥
dude thanks for helping
Thanks for this tutorial. Every time I try to drop the pattern in ableton scene it's split in as many track as the drumkit tracks are, but every track is mapped on C3. I notice a small different in MIDI icon you use to drag&drop MIDI pattern; on my Maschine it lacks the 4 dots above the MIDI icon. It is a MIDI group? Many thanks
great video, very helpful!
what screen recorder are you using for this? I've been trying a couple, but none of them are able to record sound coming from Maschine.
Great vid thanks! How do you add automation to the external instrument though to control a parameter in Maschine? I can only add macros into the Maschine midi track not the external instrument one
I followed these steps and I get the hack thanks for sharing this vide
Thanks bro so much😀
Omg was considering buying maschine mk3 to use with ableton live 10 don't think I'll bother now getting push 2 instead
wow, that was proper in-depth! thank you!
do you have a tutorial where you can sequence from maschine 2 stepsequencer into ableton live? same like when you would use your mouse on a midi clip and enter each note but now triggered/played via maschine2
+andy slate you're welcome! If you mean using maschine's step sequencer to dynamically control an actual ableton clip, I don't think that's possible natively... off the top of my head. You can send the midi out of maschine and control an ableton track, but when it comes to recording midi you'll find that it doesn't 'sync', and removing notes from the sequence in maschine doesn't remove them from the live clip...
i love u so much bro, thanks very much
What happens if inside your drum kit in Maschine you used pad mode to transpose individual notes of an instrument (i.e kick)? What would be the best routing so as to not lose those pitch changes when arranging in Ableton?
Drag the octave slider up and down featured on the left side of the pads in the Drum Rack instrument.
Thanks for creating this! I am getting stuck at one point. I have followed everything 100% up to the point (6 minute marker) where you drag the midi clip into ableton, set the Maschine input to external 2 but when I create a new scene and play it, the audio is not playing through ableton. In my external instrument, I am seeing the MIDI bars light up but the Audio From has no metering. Any suggestions? I've been trying to get this working for months, to no avail.
This is a really well put together and delivered video, however it's also the final nail for me and Maschine 2. Too much compromise, not enough benefit and I still can't use the Studio/controller to trigger Live. A regular pad controller and drum racks/Battery would do most of this so much easier. I guess Maschine is cool for actually programming drums and chopping samples, but using it as a standalone is too limited and as a VST is over complex and I still need another pad controller to operate Live itself.
Thanks for the reply by the way.
Hi. Thanks fo the video. The way you were setting things up towards the end of the video is the way I would ideally like to have maschine set up. Ideally what I would like to do is have a drum rack in ableton to trigger a drum rack in maschine with each sound on it's own channel as you were doing towards the end of the video. When I do this though does that mean that if all 16 channels are taken up by the drum rack that I'm not able to have any other sounds from maschine routed into ableton?
I wish this was answered. I'm wondering the same thing.
This is ridiculous. Why aren't there Maschine templates for all major DAWs with auto routing already set up in the most efficient way possible?
you only have to do it once just make a machine template
they are already a template in the file " program .. native .. maschine ressource template ableton ( copy to the file ableton live controler remote etc )
@@kaafaa5944
The template you are talking about is a template for remote-controlling ableton through your maschine (hardware) device.
The template described in the video is for routing the maschine (software)-tracks to ableton.
Two different things.
Or am I missing something?
@@pw6002 you are not missing anything. the maschine resource template ableton released by NI has nothing to do with this
i agree... this is doing too much.. smh
I cannot get the audio through with an external instrument to work. I am using your exact settings, so I'm wondering what might be missing in steps?
My first midi triggers other Midi's, even when I specify channels for each group. How can I fix this?
nice tuto, I had the sa issue
Hello. Thanks for the tutorial. At around 9:34, on the MIDI input section I can see you have the "Active" toggle, Root note & Thru toggle and channel all - for some reason on my Machine setup, I can only see "Key Mode" which is set to manual, "Source" set to none, "Channel" set to all, "Start note" and "Thru" toggle set to off. Any reason why this is and I can't see the active toggle?
One question: ¿does your method work to MIDI control a hardware synth hosted in Maschine from Ableton?
I’ve watched a dozen Maschine/live integration vids and this is best. Any one know how to set a drumRack like this and use the pads to play drums and record midi in live. If no input is selected then only the recorded midi notes play, but you can’t record notes in😢
This is incredibly helpful. However I can't figure out why my app doesn't have the same settings at 12m00s (Group/Input/Midi Routings). Comments below point this out as well. I've got no idea how to get my patterns from Maschine to ableton to have them trigger the hardware.
My biggest hope when i bought live 10 was that i would be able to record midi patterns in machine and arrange/mix them (also to be able to mix individual drum sounds) in my host DAW (while using my control surface mixer). Pretty sure this is what every DAW user wants to be able to do when they spend their hard earned money on a machine regardless of what DAW you're using. Since it proved to be hopeless in FL studio i bought Live 10 Suite (i might add that i'm a broke college student so all of this has been quite the investment). i thought i had it all figured out after i started using this method i was able to get the sounds/chords to work but i ran into trouble when i tried to use his Audio track method to mix the drum sounds, Since im using my el cheapo bcf2000 to try and mix, the drum rack method doesn't work how i want it to i can't use my mixer to control the volume of the drum sounds at all (while using the drum rack method). i was able route the sounds (using the audio track method) but i can't arrange the drums as a clip in the arrangement view. i can only arrange it if i keep all the drum sounds on the same track and this PISSES ME OFF if ANYONE has an idea of what im doing wrong please reply i would be thrilled to figure out how to get my drum pattern midi on to one (or several doesn't matter to me) clip(s) and be able to arrange it while routing the audio to separate audio tracks for mixing. I'll keep trying until i deem this goal of mine to be impossible. im not about to use MACHINE as my main daw when i have ableton live 10 Suite and FL studio 20 producer edition at my disposal.
For some reason my destination & external inputs keep going back to group instead of being locked into the channel I set. Any clue why or what setting I can change?
This was really helpful. Yet, when I trigger a synth, it is also playing my drums... Quite a few weird quirks. Can't seem to have this behave consistently. Anyone else having this issue?
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I gave up this way because it's too time consuming. Now i just choose 1 midi channel, and put 8 groups in, and set the midi key range (in maschine midi settings, start note = c-2, next one 16 notes up etc)). We have 128 notes in 1 midi channel so that comes out to 8 groups (8x16). This way if you have a 61 key controller you have acces to almost 4 groups... at once. I use push to sequence, and maschine for editing the sound. this way it's really, really fast. try it you'll be surprised. I discovered this way because i use reason, wich doesn't work with internal sepearate midi channels (no multitimbral vst support). This way you can use it in reason.
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is there a way to use Maschine as a keyboard to record synths and bass's and use automation swell like filters straight into Ableton? thanks
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This is a great tutorial, thank you for uploading this! I have a question, what is you have the typical side chaining compression bass/kick in Maschine, but you don't want to separate every drum track into several independent tracks, do you loose that compression if you use the drums in Live as a group?
+Gina Monk thank you! Essentially, if you choose to route your audio from maschine into live you'll have to lose your maschine routings and thus redo your effects chains. It's simple in live but a bit of a pain to separate your tracks for things like sidechaining kicks. What you could do is send just your kick to another channel and the rest of the group to a consolidated channel, which should sort things? I'd have to check but I think that'd be fine..? Good luck!
Thank you very much! I have taken note of your comments. I have a few projects to work on using your advice, let's see if something else comes up. Cheers!
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Thanks for the great video. In this set-up, is it possible tot record from push AND simultaniously from maschine hardware into Ableton midi-clips?
+BeatDistrict hi! Yes, it should be - as long as you're set up right and that may involve setting up a separate midi channel that accepts push inputs and sends it to your expected channel, just to make sure you don't end up with unexpected things on multiple channels. You might have to go 'off script' from the video depending on your needs, I'll look into the feasibility and use cases - what would your workflow be? ✌️️
Thank you for your fast response. Well. At home I only use my Ableton Push 2. But when I go to my studio, I want to be able to use the rest of the features of the Push 2 AND use my Maschine to control the drums. In addition to this, it's good to know that I use the presets of audiomodder.com. Maybe you're familiar with them. As far as I understand these presets are built up the same as you guys show in this video.
Can you tell me if there's a way to run standalone maschine 2 into pro tools onto seperate tracks and not in midi mode? I'd like to retain the functionality of maschine mk3 micro.. Thanks
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Nice video, however I'm having issues with configuring it like you have. Perhaps its lack of technical understanding and am missing something or maybe there has been an update to the software since releasing this tutorial. Using Maschine software 2 and Ableton 10. One of the issues I'm having is when I'm lifting the midi form Maschine it lifts each sounds midi as a separate scene in Ableton. Any advice would be great. Also wondering if you do remote access support as I have little patience for setting up these configurations when they start to not work so Chris if you are open to helping set this up let me know how to get in touch with you. Thanks
he covered this in the video at 9:20
16:21 using machine with drum rack in Ableton if I don't find video on youtube I will make one.
Maschine 2.8/2.10 now has different GROUP OUTPUT MIDI routing settings "DrumKit or Manual or Off". Also inside Maschine, right clicking Groups up at the top (A1, B1, etc) allows you to adjust "Group MIDI Batch Setup", and has choices of either "Sounds to Midi Notes" or "Sounds to Midi Channels". The reason I'm poking around is this set-up in the video isn't working for me, with all the latest stuff Aug2020. When I arm a track in Ableton, Maschine isn't following, always playing whatever group is highlighted inside Maschine. driving me crazy. I really wanted the promiseland: [One Ableton track per Maschine group], with volume control as you try to do here. And ideally, as a drumkit or as an instrument with midi note chromatic playing capability.
Has anyone found a solution for this to work in the most recent maschine software?
After several hours and searching in the manual of maschine I finally found it.
In the group settings of maschine you have to select manual, then select the midi channel you want to reseve your midi notes from. After that you have to change the start note until it matches your drums.
But at first to extract your whole midi clip into one track in ableton it has to be set to drumkick.
Quit stupid.... Why is Maschine like that.
Here is the link of the manual where it is desciped(in German)
support.native-instruments.com/hc/de/articles/115005813489-MASCHINE-2-Drum-Kits-mit-MIDI-Noten-in-Ableton-Live-ansteuern
@@ariankonig5815 well that is pretty brilliant. That is the one piece I have not figured out yet. Which took some work. After much torture, I do have multiple Maschine kits easy-to program Midi in Ableton and using Maschine Studio Controller template. But this missing piece will finally make it easier to move MIDI clips from Maschine into ABL. THANK YOU
Hey. Does anyone happen to have an example file of how to get this working now? I’m still trying to figure out. Lots of tutorials on setup as external device but I still can’t figure out what I’m doing wrong. Thank you.
Thank you a lot. This is really helpful
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Please tell me there's an easier way to get this all setup.
Great tutorial. It was a bit tough to follow at times and now I have even more questions. In the end you ended up routing to channels 14, 15, and 16 mainly because I think those channels were not taken up. So what do you do if you want say 3 maschine drum groups that each fill up all 16 channels?
This is the question I have been searching the net for and still no answers, it looks like we are limited to 16 channels which is crap!
Sorry I never replied to this before! 16 channels is quite a lot for mixing purposes. Maybe best to think of each channel as a bus and do some basic mixing into the bus from maschine’s mixer to start with. If you really, really need every channel you can get, perhaps try loading multiple Maschine plugins. I’d caution against it though, because you’re creating a lot of work by micromanaging your sounds in that way…
Great video. Thanks for showing us how you can achieve a very interesting integration between Live and Maschine but I agree that it is a very tedious process, with all the manual mapping for each group. Either NI or Ableton should invest into a better solution as these two products complement each other in a very interesting way. By the way, what are your thoughts on Maschine Jam? Would it be an easier controller for handling both Ableton and Maschine, or is Push 2 and Maschine still the best combination for music production?
+André Pinto good question! I think maschine jam looks great, but I haven't yet used it... it looks like it would shine in maschine rather than as an extra ableton controller, and for me the things that push does really well are the simple integrations with Live like browsing, converting on the fly, slicing samples and so on. If maschine had real time timestretching, linear sequencer, and audio tracks, I'd perhaps use it over live more - but as it stands I use Live instead of Maschine rather than in conjunction lately.
I don't use maschine's scene sequencer. All the arrangement is done in Live. I use the pattern sequencer though. Maschine's libraries are so good. Are you sampling directly in Live then?
+André Pinto lately yes, I like the realtime timestretch options and the 64 pads on push. There's swings and roundabouts always though, maschine has a much better library browse imo!
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Man, how you do it in 2.7 or 2.6.9 version. They changed some Group MIDI input page and it seems it doesn't work correct.
It still works, but the latest updates have made it possible to save some of the routings in the plugin to make it simpler if you have a rock solid workflow...
I received my Maschine+ few days ago and am looking for the Maschine software, its not in Native Acces. Where can I find it?
Definitely a great video, but holy moley is it just the most backwards way to integrate maschine into ableton. at this point you might as well export the individual clips and load them into ableton 1 by 1. i love maschine, but every time i want to really polish a track, i end up becoming frustrated by this shit and just dont bring it into ableton at all. this is the opposite of quick, and i cant imagine doing this every single time i have a new idea.
its just completely ridiculous. I love Maschine but I will never buy another item until they give us the freedom to work seamlessly in our Daw or at least a midi clock sync to every major daw that works without delay
Agreed.
Thank you. You just saved me from having to watch a 30 minute video only to probably come to the same conclusion. Efficiency and speed are everything for my workflow and personality. That's why I literally barely touch my Ableton Push, but still use it for specific purposes. I just got the Maschine and it makes me realize I am going have to design my own custom template or find my own custom way to integrate Ableton and Maschine.
I totally agree also, it ruins the work flow. No one can seriously solely work in Maschine to finish a track. Does anyone know of any other ways to easily integrate Maschine into Ableton? Maschine could be great, if it allowed easier integration. Surely that would be the point of a great midi controller / drum / mpc, or any instrument, is for versatility in order to make great music.
Kudos for breaking that down so concisely! Interesting but IMHO just bounce audio... this shit is ridiculous.. I have been using maschine as a VST within ableton for years and I also love it as a stand-alone on a second computer. I have midi synced it to and from everything at one point or another, but I have come to the painfully obvious conclusion that as always; less is more.. Keep it simple. sync or vst maschine to ableton, bounce audio out of maschine for arrangement within ableton. Sounds good?.. print it.. move on. $.02
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I recall there should be a midi effect in Ableton Live that you could just drop in front of the Drum Rack to shift the midi notes down by 2 octaves and before all the External Instruments on the "Pads" to shift them up again? Then just save that as an Instrument Rack and reuse it without needing any tweaking in the midi clips or in Maschine ever again.
EDIT: In your setup only one midi device would be needed, as you already tell the Drum Rack to shift the notes.
+Noxoreos I'll have to go back to my notepad because I'm pretty sure that I tried and abandoned using midi utilities to achieve this but I can't remember why... you might well be right though! I'll look into it when I get back off my holiday - the latest maschine update allows setting project defaults of midi routing so this tutorial could probably be made easier ✌️️