Definitely useful additions, nothing to run out and buy though. I agree with others in the comments. A full number leap in versions should be more compelling and offer a lot more stuff to be excited about.
at this point everybody is reviewing the same feature points.. But i really loved your video bro.. nice and concise.. no unnecessary blah, blah blah & i'm a funk and wah wah head.. so when you got here 2:35 i was feeling it. That beat is tight. Sounds like something i would do. Can you share which Bass sound you're using?? is that from the new library?? (i think you mentioned that your using the new Library sounds). i just got the Maschine 3 update without the sounds.. but maybe i'll go and get the sounds to add to the vault i already have
Thank you, I really appreciate it! Yeah, all sounds used in the video are from Maschine Central. The bass is Icon Bass - New York Club but I added a low pass filter and a saturator to make it fatter, so it doesn't sound like this straight out of the box.
Bounce in place on the controller is accessed by selecting Sound level on the left screen, then press pad mode and Bounce will show as an option on the right screen
Not a lot of new features but for $29 I can't fault it. I also remember paying $99 for maschine 2 with free updates all these years. Having said that I also have Ableton and Serato Sample, I will upgrade only when something more compelling comes out.
Nah. I will ... it should have been free for existing users. Other than the DAW sync that should have been there for ages, there is nothing of substance in this ... nothing that actually wants to make me use it more (or again). The ONE THING most people wanted was a re-sizeable GUI (and thought they might be getting based on NI's "feature list") and no bueno there. If that had been included, it would have been worth it ...
The thing is I've adapted my workflow so much around and away from the limitations of Maschine that even this isn't worth it for me. I just use it as a sampler now.
I have a mk2 controller in excellent conditions..i like it a lot more than mk3 .. and they dropped it, but instead support stupid keyboards? I have supported keyboards tho, but i want ro use step mode etc.. its made for pas controllers.. if they rethink and aupport mk2 maschine, i might buy the update
I just installed the new Maschine 3 but not all of my expansions that I had installed in Maschine 2 are showing up in Maschine 3. I went back to Maschine 2 to see if they are still there and they still are. So I don't know why some of my installed expansions like Rolling Tides are not showing up in the new Maschine 3. Is anybody else having the same problem? What do you do to fix the problem?
Great tutorial. I'm much appreciate what you doing. Is anybody else having problems installing machine 3 ? Machine 3 upgrade doesn't show anywhere once I put in the serial number it says successful look in your library what library I checked everywhere and can't seem to find it can anyone help.
I have an MPC One but I haven't tried MPC 3 yet. I'll surely keep Maschine for it's fast and fun workflow for creating quick ideas. I'm mainly an Ableton Live user anyway, so MPC is redundant for me.
Gonna upgrade for stems, I use Maschine as a sketch pad anyway and do all my production in a real DAW, Ableton. My question is to buy Maschine Central or not.
Has anyone tried the upgrade inside Logic Pro as a plug-in? I am wondering if the audio unit/VST plug-in of Maschine has actually been improved to work with Mac processors and retina displays. The current version forces me to run in Rosetta mode to use all features, there’s no window scaling, and graphics are very pixelated. I wish they would fix this considering it’s been like 10 years.
Hey lowheat do you know if they plan on releasing any updates with more useful features for machine 3.0 or was this just a here we want people to stop screaming at us so we’ll throw something at you for a few minutes?
@@hermianofficial3400 I would always share any resource I know, I'm not hiding anything. But in this case it's just many many years of learning a thing or two about theory here and there and just messing around the keyboard while making beats.
Too little, too late. At this point, I have way more faith in Akai's support of the MPC platform than that of NI's support for the Maschine platform. Which makes MPC (which has improved its workflow A LOT recently) an upgrade for me over Maschine. NI's Maschine for sure has the potential to be at least a sidegrade but for that they really need to step up their development cycles. And that I simply don't see happening. Because the reality is that MPC is Akai's very core product. NI on the other hand is at its core is an audio software developer, Maschine is just another tool for them to sell more Kontakt and Komplete software instruments.
Will we be able to have both Maschine 2 and Maschine 3 installed on a computer at the same time? As a Maschine Plus user, if I cant have projects go back and forth between PC and Standalone then its a not worth it for me.
Yes, they are independent apps, no problem having them both installed. But compatibility for Maschine 3 projects for Maschine Plus will come soon with a free 3.1 update.
one more question ? if i upgrade from 2 do i get to keep my old libraries etc ? dont want to lose all the old stuff ive collected or bought from ni in the past ...
So I got the m32 a few months after the Mk3 keyboard release only to find out the Maschine software update is not gonna work with my m32...if I would have known that I would have just saved my cash and just got the Mk3 keyboard smh😢
Nice, hoping though they implement MPE and more randomization options, like random note triggers, etc. But for $29, it is not a bad start. I'm def upgrading and hoping more new exciting features come.
@@jeromebarbier5295 nope, not akai 4 example. and no, it's not a new version, just a small update without none of the community request after 10 or more years
i already have maschine 2, how do i keep that and install upgrade to 3, but in case i do not like it or my pc craps out how do i still get to use the version 2 ?
No. I have an MPC One, that's basically the same thing in a different form factor and I find it convoluted and clunky compared to Maschine. Amazing features on paper but I just don't like working with it. Just my 2c.
@ all you have to do in logic 11 is create a new audio track, right click the audio you place, go to processing, and then click on stem splitter, then it pretty much does everything for you.
@ Not at all. It’s mentioned in the release notes but nowhere else. People are getting frustrated on the NI forums that they bought the update and weren’t aware that the Kontrol integration is standalone app only. I was surprised no RUclipsrs seemed to mention it when Maschine 3 was released. I was so annoyed by it in the beta cycle, I assumed it would be one of the bigger complaints in the upgrade videos…but no one mentioned it. I guess everyone is like you and not using it as a plugin. 😁
I would have liked to have seen stem separation inside the sampler, like Serato. This would not only work with chops/slices but also not force us to make 4 stems when we might just need to turn off drums for example... With always 4 I am forced to slice things 3 times, or resample 3 stems into another Pad, ya-da-ya-da.... The Sampler should really be #1 prio imo.😅
I m not sure why, but when I try to use external libraries native on kontakt 7 (as action strings 2 and more) in Maschine mk3 are not working.... maybe I need to reinstall maschine software or this happens even to others?
Just make sure to install every update for Kontakt, Maschine and the particular libraries that you see in Native Access. Most of the time this solves the problem.
Initially I feared you still needed a microscope to edit midi in the piano roll. Thank god they added vertical zoom. Cost saving hack when you want to buy both products if you still have a 25€ NI voucher laying around: don't apply the voucher on the bundle. Instead buy Machine Central, apply the voucher. Now buy Machine 3. This way you've only spent 53€, instead of the 69€ promo price for the bundle.
@ you can use it on the bundle, but then it applies to the 99€ price, instead of the 69€ promo price you get as a Maschine 2 user. A bit weird, but the way I did it worked.
Thanks! Worked like a charm. Added Maschine Cneteral to cart, checked out, paid $25.68 including tax. Added Maschine v3.0, checked out, paid $31.03. Gand total: $56.71 for Maschine v3.0 and Maschine Central.Normal price $73.83, savings of $17.12. I owe you a beer or three ;)
it should have been free for existing users. Other than the DAW sync that should have been there for ages, there is nothing of substance (for me) in this ... nothing that actually wants to make me use it more (or again). The ONE THING most people wanted was a re-sizeable GUI (and thought they might be getting based on NI's "feature list") and no bueno there. If that had been included and implemented well, it would have been worth it ...
Not a big update but the update price is great if they keep updating features which they have hinted they are working on. I’m updating later tonight !!! 👍😁
Thank you for the video, it confirms that for me maschine is finished. Ableton push with well chosen sample banks , I waste less time. But it will remain a maschine on which I had a lot of fun. peace
Here is another point. The old Komplete Kontrol MK2 has 2 screens, The new S Series has one screen.I don't think NI would release a Maschine Mk4 if it didn't have one screen.
Gutted as I was hoping that the aftertouch would finally work. Does not make sense that the keyboards they sell have aftertouch and the software does not support. I just bought to see if it would work and I am very disapointed
This is a modest update and the price is not extortionate in my view. I don’t really care for stem separation. It seems a bit of a gimmick. The new midi editing features seem limited to the computer GUI so won’t be available on M+…. As someone who composes with vocals and real instruments, I would have liked NI to address Maschine’s shortcomings for the recording and arrangement of real instruments and vocals on audio tracks. The lack of Maschine integration on the Mk3 keyboards remains a bizarre decision by NI and even in this update there still isn’t much. So the Mk3 keyboard is never going to be for me. Maschine is really great, but for what I do, the MPC platform seems increasingly attractive, now that MPC 3 is on the horizon…
@ Yes. I have Ableton, and it certainly would be better for instruments but having to use a mouse and computer keyboard just totally kills the vibe for me. Every time I want to adjust a sound, create a clip/pattern, add a track, I need to move my focus to a mouse, screen and computer keyboard and I just hate it :-) That’s why I love Maschine so much. It’s really the most frictionless platform on the planet. Just a pity that I can’t find a fluid way to integrate “normal” audio tracks.
Its unfortunate. While this is a great update, it still misses on the mark. The arrangement still feels very restrictive. I wish the arrangement view allows users to load samples directly into the window and click and drag the sounds or samples freely in any timeframe of the song. (similarly to ableton or fl studio arrangement view). Another thing is having a group within groups...being able to group certain pads and affect those pads within the same group without having to route the audio to another pad or new group would be game changer. Thirdly, the automation feature would be better if it had clickable nodes that lets you control the shape of the automation...rather than drawing it in or recording the performance. All these are easily attainable and I dont understand why NI keeps falling behind to other DAWS when it has the capacity to be competitive as a viable well rounded software.Its
Not impressed, sadly. I wish they would just say they don’t care about Maschine and just make it open source or something that way people with more passion can drive it further
I think Maschine 4 is around the corner. The basic integration for the new S Series tells the whole story. Think about it, they released Machine 3 software but there's no hardware to fully use it's full capabilities with. Why? Imagine Windows 11 without a PC .🤷🏾♂
What cant Maschine MK3 do to fully use its capabilities? Stem separation is done by your PC, its not going to ported over to Maschine Plus, it simply does not have the processing power. Also yes, NI reps over at the Maschine forum have confirmed repeatedly that there is no new Maschine hardware on the horizon. They havent fully maxed out the use of the MK3 yet with those glorious screens, theres a ton they could do buuut they wont cause they are NI and we still dont even have automation editing or a sampler with timestretch lmao
@ unfortunately my 2015 iMac won’t update past Monterey so I’d have to upgrade my whole rig, I’m not as serious about producing these days so I can’t justify it, bummer
It's not a feature packed upgrade, but its ok. Stem separation is awesome to have - even if purely to shut the mouths of boastful MPC bros 😊 I'll wait for the M+ compatibility, and upgrade with the new Maschine Central pack. I think the price is actually very reasonable, much cheaper than I was expecting! Anyway, it's great to finally see some advancement of Maschine - its still one of the best grooveboxes on the market. I can't complain 😁
10 yuears for a gui update and literally just ripping the stems function off Izotope RX11, of which they own now. It's only 29 dollars, so there's that, but it should never have been called Maschine 3.0. this is 2.5 at best. No automation fixes, no better daw integration. IMPORT MP3!? wow 2010 is calling. This is embarassing in my opinion. Where is full randomization of kits and/or parameters, it's 2024. This is why I use XLN Audio XO exclusively, Maschine is now behind.
Nothing really compelling if you already have a DAW. I use Logic 11 which has Stems and a load of other options. For $29 it’s not bad but realistically they shouldn't be charging for this. I’ll probably wait.
Dont get why they didnt update the maschine + on standalone. Cause they promised a update for maschine + for a long time and now they come with a maschine 3.0software and 0 use case.... and dont get why as a maschine + user on the standalone side that i should pay for the 3.0... just give the damn software for the plus users... and some features you can go back and forth with project on from stand alone to controller mode with your projects... there are soo many things they should have added... software disappointing.. no maschine+update disappointing... paying for this is really disappointing...
It doesn't matter how good NI products are; customer support CAN NOT BE CONTACTED! No EMAIL, NO PHONE, and Chat is hardly managed. So if you have a problem like I do what the hell do you do?
I'm sorry but the stem separation was trash 😂 might as well just use fadr and just sample from there. Feel like they just added it there without any science behind it just to shut us up since every other Daw has the function.. I really need to do some thinking b4 I put any money into this when it should’ve been free
They're going to do new hardware. Everything's discounted now. Kind of want to pick up a mikro if the pads are as good as on my studio. I'll hold out for the next generation hardware and get back into maschine if they put actual effort into 3.0. They really are focused on making trash plugins that are easy to churn out that I guess normies can't stop eating up.
Matthew from the Maschine product team has stated that no new Maschine hardware is coming soon. I covered this in my last video. They do this sale every year for the past 2-3 years. Can you recommend me some "non-normie plugins"?
I knew this was gonna happen in the comments. This was one of the reasons I was waiting to see what the community would say. Great vid as usual LH. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
It is what it is. I wouldn't go as far as calling it trash, especially for the modest price, but it's understandable that people were expecting more from a 3.0.
@@LowHeatBeatsyo low heat….I downloaded 3.0 today and my kits won’t load….can audition sounds and see all my expansions in the tabs etc…but they won’t load? Any insight
For $30 just to get native stem separation is nice but then again it’s probably depending on what kind of device your using and how fast it will take etc but I think it’s worth it then using a free internet stem app
Not worth it at all. I’ve lost features. And all the “new” features have had work arounds for 10 years. Kontrol s mk1 is nothing more than a lit up keybed and the lights don’t indicate anything at all. 😂 NI is cooked. Akai has lapped them.
missing daw-intagration sucks since 9 years...internal daw sucks to...havn`t find a way to use that maschine in any song i have made (in cubase)...just sitting on the table and look nice is not enought...since 2023 my two keyboards (komplete kontrol s61 and s25 mk1) have no support from native instruments, so they don`t work with komplete kontrol any more...spent hundrets of euros for nothing...native instruments sucks...never again!
Hell yeah I'm gonna upgrade! You my Brother and NI have made my day! With the election and the future of our country I wasn't too sure. But after doing my assessment of life I'm more optimistic that will be alright will see thank you. Maybe it's time for a new way of thinking is the way I'm looking at it!😂 And your right about the console Wars being really stupid! If your an Artist your weapon of choice doesn't matter just make good music. I've been with NI since the first Maschine and then I had a MPC 1000 Now I have a Maschine Plus, MPC One Plus a SP404MK2 and a Ableton Move. Each piece of gear gives me a different way to groove. Just do what's good for you. We also have content creators that hate on specific brands because of there personnel preference. Don't believe the hype especially when you see what they use and probably get free gear or get paid to hype. Music is the key to life enjoy it and only subscribe to positive people like this Brother! Have a great day Fam!😎
How can one call it "major" or even "update"... It's a marketing lie! The gui is almost the same just black, the midi function just for the mouse should have been there since day one, stem separation a late gimmic, real integration with Ni keyboards missing and at the end death for "older" hardware from ni. And all of that after asking the community for around half a year.. Maschine misses so many things meanwhile, that a real major update should have a serious long list of added features but we see.... this. No honesty left.
This upgrade is a joke.... Sorry.. But probably the worst software version since.... Arturia Spark2... But that's Ok .. I wasn't expecting anything good from NI... I had to wait year for my Kontrol MK3 to have a the ability to create midi templates...
It should be free...it's cheap because it is terrible...lazy effort by NI....they are the absolute worst...they should be ashamed of themselves...shut down the entire company and stop ripping people off...every other company in the world has NI beat by miles and miles and miles...I can't stress enough that no serious musician should ever invest in NI...terrible sound quality compared to akai, roland, etc.....NOT EVEN CLOSE..DO NOT BUY...DO NOT BUY...I just saved your life and your music
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Stems separation blows my mind every time
Do feel this is them testing if people will pay for updates rather than except free updates though. Vote with the wallets!
@@soulsynthesiscreations Maschine 2 wasn't a free update either, but it's has been out there for 10 years.
Those BEATS man. I love how you are reigniting my love for Maschine like this, hahah
Hey, I appreciate the supportive comments, thank you!
Definitely useful additions, nothing to run out and buy though. I agree with others in the comments. A full number leap in versions should be more compelling and offer a lot more stuff to be excited about.
True
at this point everybody is reviewing the same feature points.. But i really loved your video bro.. nice and concise.. no unnecessary blah, blah blah & i'm a funk and wah wah head.. so when you got here 2:35 i was feeling it. That beat is tight. Sounds like something i would do. Can you share which Bass sound you're using?? is that from the new library?? (i think you mentioned that your using the new Library sounds). i just got the Maschine 3 update without the sounds.. but maybe i'll go and get the sounds to add to the vault i already have
Thank you, I really appreciate it! Yeah, all sounds used in the video are from Maschine Central. The bass is Icon Bass - New York Club but I added a low pass filter and a saturator to make it fatter, so it doesn't sound like this straight out of the box.
@@LowHeatBeats ok, coolness.. thanks for the feedback and your secret sauce ingredients 😏
Loving your last beat on this video. Thanks for the review too - you always break things down in an informative way.
Hey man, thanks a lot, I appreciate it!
Bounce in place on the controller is accessed by selecting Sound level on the left screen, then press pad mode and Bounce will show as an option on the right screen
So that's where it is. Thanks!
Not a lot of new features but for $29 I can't fault it. I also remember paying $99 for maschine 2 with free updates all these years. Having said that I also have Ableton and Serato Sample, I will upgrade only when something more compelling comes out.
I'm with you on this - it's OK for the price, but not a must-buy.
Nah. I will ... it should have been free for existing users. Other than the DAW sync that should have been there for ages, there is nothing of substance in this ... nothing that actually wants to make me use it more (or again). The ONE THING most people wanted was a re-sizeable GUI (and thought they might be getting based on NI's "feature list") and no bueno there. If that had been included, it would have been worth it ...
i update only when real time stretching is available
Learn how to use your products better
i want live time stretching/warping. mpc and sp404mk2 have it, why not maschine?? in 2024???
We didn’t get everything we wanted, but at $29, the update is worth it to me.
Me too. Mpc is 10 but sounds like sh..
The thing is I've adapted my workflow so much around and away from the limitations of Maschine that even this isn't worth it for me. I just use it as a sampler now.
Excelente video y muy buena explicación , amo Native Instruments y mucho mas Maschine mk3 es mi cerebro en cada obra que hago paz hermanos
Thank you, glad you enjoyed the video!
@@LowHeatBeats You are a lighthouse for what you know and I learned a lot from you, I thank you brother, peace and much light.
This new features should be done years ago. Nothing ground breaking. I updated Cubase to version 14 now and I'm more then happy.
Same. The drum track is beast, basically how I was using maschine anyway.
I have a mk2 controller in excellent conditions..i like it a lot more than mk3 .. and they dropped it, but instead support stupid keyboards? I have supported keyboards tho, but i want ro use step mode etc.. its made for pas controllers.. if they rethink and aupport mk2 maschine, i might buy the update
I just installed the new Maschine 3 but not all of my expansions that I had installed in Maschine 2 are showing up in Maschine 3. I went back to Maschine 2 to see if they are still there and they still are. So I don't know why some of my installed expansions like Rolling Tides are not showing up in the new Maschine 3. Is anybody else having the same problem? What do you do to fix the problem?
Thanks for the great info
My pleasure!
Great tutorial. I'm much appreciate what you doing. Is anybody else having problems installing machine 3 ? Machine 3 upgrade doesn't show anywhere once I put in the serial number it says successful look in your library what library I checked everywhere and can't seem to find it can anyone help.
Glad you enjoyed the video! Did you look in the applications tab in your library?
Its affordable because they didn't do much. Still a good update, priced just right. I remember paying 99 for the Maschine 2 update
Yup
Not heard the stem separation as yet but for anyone who uses it I can't see by FL Studio for both quality, price, efficiency, workflow and speed.
For sure, but we mainly use Maschine for the super fast hardware workflow and FL can't replace that.
mannnn, dem beats are fireeee
Thanks man, I appreciate it!
Wish they add that one can have the option to see keyboard notes on all keys
Did you rip that song from youtube for stems? I saw another Promo vid in stem separation and it was clean. This bleeds heavily.
You probably skipped over the part where I explained it.
Great video, what do you think about the new mpc 3 version?, you will consider? or keep on maschine ?
I have an MPC One but I haven't tried MPC 3 yet. I'll surely keep Maschine for it's fast and fun workflow for creating quick ideas. I'm mainly an Ableton Live user anyway, so MPC is redundant for me.
Gonna upgrade for stems, I use Maschine as a sketch pad anyway and do all my production in a real DAW, Ableton. My question is to buy Maschine Central or not.
Hard to say. If you have a bunch of specific expansions and Komplete instruments for the sounds you like, it may not be necessary.
Has anyone tried the upgrade inside Logic Pro as a plug-in? I am wondering if the audio unit/VST plug-in of Maschine has actually been improved to work with Mac processors and retina displays. The current version forces me to run in Rosetta mode to use all features, there’s no window scaling, and graphics are very pixelated. I wish they would fix this considering it’s been like 10 years.
Hey lowheat do you know if they plan on releasing any updates with more useful features for machine 3.0 or was this just a here we want people to stop screaming at us so we’ll throw something at you for a few minutes?
Yeah, they will be adding more free updates, check out my video from last week. 3.1 is coming soon and they've hinted at new features.
GOOD REVIEW! GOOD WORK!!!
Much appreciated fam!
Bro, did you study at a music school in the past? You play really great on your midi keyboard!
Hey, thank you! But no, entirely self-taught.
@@LowHeatBeats YOU KILLED IT BRO!
That is so cool. Could you share some resources you used?@@LowHeatBeats
@@hermianofficial3400 I would always share any resource I know, I'm not hiding anything. But in this case it's just many many years of learning a thing or two about theory here and there and just messing around the keyboard while making beats.
Too little, too late. At this point, I have way more faith in Akai's support of the MPC platform than that of NI's support for the Maschine platform. Which makes MPC (which has improved its workflow A LOT recently) an upgrade for me over Maschine. NI's Maschine for sure has the potential to be at least a sidegrade but for that they really need to step up their development cycles. And that I simply don't see happening. Because the reality is that MPC is Akai's very core product. NI on the other hand is at its core is an audio software developer, Maschine is just another tool for them to sell more Kontakt and Komplete software instruments.
Very true
Agreed
Any improved workflows with pulling stuff into Live?
No, these are all the new features, if there was anything else, I would have mentioned it.
Will we be able to have both Maschine 2 and Maschine 3 installed on a computer at the same time? As a Maschine Plus user, if I cant have projects go back and forth between PC and Standalone then its a not worth it for me.
Yes, they are independent apps, no problem having them both installed. But compatibility for Maschine 3 projects for Maschine Plus will come soon with a free 3.1 update.
@@LowHeatBeatsI think he means will I be able to play my 2.x songs in 3.0. Now
up graded!!! I love and use both!! and reason and Able;}
That's the spirit!
one more question ? if i upgrade from 2 do i get to keep my old libraries etc ? dont want to lose all the old stuff ive collected or bought from ni in the past ...
Of course, you keep everything you have.
So I got the m32 a few months after the Mk3 keyboard release only to find out the Maschine software update is not gonna work with my m32...if I would have known that I would have just saved my cash and just got the Mk3 keyboard smh😢
M32 is supported in Maschine 3, I think I mentioned it in the video.
Nice, hoping though they implement MPE and more randomization options, like random note triggers, etc. But for $29, it is not a bad start. I'm def upgrading and hoping more new exciting features come.
Yeah, there's more stuff coming for sure, but Idk if these exact features will be implemented.
the question is why do i have to pay for update?
That's what I'm trying to know. Crazy
Not to defend NI but it's not an update. It's a new version. All softwares do this.
@@jeromebarbier5295 akai doesn't
@@jeromebarbier5295 nope, not akai 4 example. and no, it's not a new version, just a small update without none of the community request after 10 or more years
@@jeromebarbier5295 low heat keep deleting my answer, these payed reviews... very sad
i already have maschine 2, how do i keep that and install upgrade to 3, but in case i do not like it or my pc craps out how do i still get to use the version 2 ?
It's a separate application, Maschine 2 should be unaffected when you install v3.
Would you recommend the mpc live 2 over the maschine 3?
No. I have an MPC One, that's basically the same thing in a different form factor and I find it convoluted and clunky compared to Maschine. Amazing features on paper but I just don't like working with it. Just my 2c.
Can you please make a video about Maschine 3.0 Stem Separation vs the native Logic Pro 11 Stem Splitter?
I don’t have Logic but maybe I can try the demo? The problem is I’m not really familiar with Logic, I use Ableton Live. But I will look into it.
@ all you have to do in logic 11 is create a new audio track, right click the audio you place, go to processing, and then click on stem splitter, then it pretty much does everything for you.
What about ״auto grow״ pattern .works well ?
Yup, but that was already in v2, it's not a new feature.
Is the Maschine 3 just a software update? Or do you get any new new kits and sounds with it?
Watch the video
I’m frustrated that the Kontrol Mk3 doesn’t seem to work at all when Maschine is running as a plugin.
It doesn’t? I totally missed that as I never use Maschine as a plugin. But thanks for the heads up.
@ Not at all. It’s mentioned in the release notes but nowhere else. People are getting frustrated on the NI forums that they bought the update and weren’t aware that the Kontrol integration is standalone app only. I was surprised no RUclipsrs seemed to mention it when Maschine 3 was released. I was so annoyed by it in the beta cycle, I assumed it would be one of the bigger complaints in the upgrade videos…but no one mentioned it. I guess everyone is like you and not using it as a plugin. 😁
can you use an external conroller with v 3?
You can.
I would have liked to have seen stem separation inside the sampler, like Serato. This would not only work with chops/slices but also not force us to make 4 stems when we might just need to turn off drums for example... With always 4 I am forced to slice things 3 times, or resample 3 stems into another Pad, ya-da-ya-da.... The Sampler should really be #1 prio imo.😅
I m not sure why, but when I try to use external libraries native on kontakt 7 (as action strings 2 and more) in Maschine mk3 are not working.... maybe I need to reinstall maschine software or this happens even to others?
Just make sure to install every update for Kontakt, Maschine and the particular libraries that you see in Native Access. Most of the time this solves the problem.
@@LowHeatBeats Many thanks bro !
So underwhelming for a version upgrade. Looking forward to a few updates from now when there’s more improvements
Initially I feared you still needed a microscope to edit midi in the piano roll. Thank god they added vertical zoom. Cost saving hack when you want to buy both products if you still have a 25€ NI voucher laying around: don't apply the voucher on the bundle. Instead buy Machine Central, apply the voucher. Now buy Machine 3. This way you've only spent 53€, instead of the 69€ promo price for the bundle.
Is that because you can't apply the voucher to the bundle? Because it's already discounted?
@ you can use it on the bundle, but then it applies to the 99€ price, instead of the 69€ promo price you get as a Maschine 2 user. A bit weird, but the way I did it worked.
@@ed_ms Aaah, makes sense, good advice Ed!
Thanks! Worked like a charm. Added Maschine Cneteral to cart, checked out, paid $25.68 including tax. Added Maschine v3.0, checked out, paid $31.03. Gand total: $56.71 for Maschine v3.0 and Maschine Central.Normal price $73.83, savings of $17.12. I owe you a beer or three ;)
@@preamble466 you're welcome
it should have been free for existing users. Other than the DAW sync that should have been there for ages, there is nothing of substance (for me) in this ... nothing that actually wants to make me use it more (or again). The ONE THING most people wanted was a re-sizeable GUI (and thought they might be getting based on NI's "feature list") and no bueno there. If that had been included and implemented well, it would have been worth it ...
Not a big update but the update price is great if they keep updating features which they have hinted they are working on. I’m updating later tonight !!! 👍😁
For sure!
Can you confirm if you can chop samples with a keyboard without the Maschine hardware?
You can do it with the mouse for sure.
@ I wish there was a demo I can try before I buy, but I’ll rather get serato sample.
It’s a slap in the face to Maschine owners to require them to pay for this . This should be an update .
Thank you for the video, it confirms that for me maschine is finished. Ableton push with well chosen sample banks , I waste less time.
But it will remain a maschine on which I had a lot of fun. peace
Here is another point. The old Komplete Kontrol MK2 has 2 screens, The new S Series has one screen.I don't think NI would release a Maschine Mk4 if it didn't have one screen.
No QoL changes afaics
is it work with old mk2 ?
Nope, if you use an MK2, just stay on Maschine 2 for now.
@LowHeatBeats Thanks for replying, I'm using serato sampel anyway, I was hoping for more, I'm not really impressed with this update.
Gutted as I was hoping that the aftertouch would finally work. Does not make sense that the keyboards they sell have aftertouch and the software does not support. I just bought to see if it would work and I am very disapointed
This is a modest update and the price is not extortionate in my view. I don’t really care for stem separation. It seems a bit of a gimmick. The new midi editing features seem limited to the computer GUI so won’t be available on M+….
As someone who composes with vocals and real instruments, I would have liked NI to address Maschine’s shortcomings for the recording and arrangement of real instruments and vocals on audio tracks. The lack of Maschine integration on the Mk3 keyboards remains a bizarre decision by NI and even in this update there still isn’t much. So the Mk3 keyboard is never going to be for me.
Maschine is really great, but for what I do, the MPC platform seems increasingly attractive, now that MPC 3 is on the horizon…
That's totally fair. Have you considered a DAW like Ableton Live though? It would be way better than MPC for recording instruments.
@ Yes. I have Ableton, and it certainly would be better for instruments but having to use a mouse and computer keyboard just totally kills the vibe for me. Every time I want to adjust a sound, create a clip/pattern, add a track, I need to move my focus to a mouse, screen and computer keyboard and I just hate it :-)
That’s why I love Maschine so much. It’s really the most frictionless platform on the planet. Just a pity that I can’t find a fluid way to integrate “normal” audio tracks.
Its unfortunate. While this is a great update, it still misses on the mark. The arrangement still feels very restrictive. I wish the arrangement view allows users to load samples directly into the window and click and drag the sounds or samples freely in any timeframe of the song. (similarly to ableton or fl studio arrangement view). Another thing is having a group within groups...being able to group certain pads and affect those pads within the same group without having to route the audio to another pad or new group would be game changer. Thirdly, the automation feature would be better if it had clickable nodes that lets you control the shape of the automation...rather than drawing it in or recording the performance. All these are easily attainable and I dont understand why NI keeps falling behind to other DAWS when it has the capacity to be competitive as a viable well rounded software.Its
Not impressed, sadly. I wish they would just say they don’t care about Maschine and just make it open source or something that way people with more passion can drive it further
$29 is a no-brainer upgrade even if the new features are underwhelming but again not trying to be a DAW and NEVER will
And still you cannot Change Patterns in a synced way! =O
Yeah, I'd just Ableton Live if I wanted to do this.
A 29 dollar upgrade ain’t bad 👀
Not even Fullscreen mode? And they advertise it as standalone/mouse-friendly 🤦
I vaguely remember seeing something about a problem with full screen on Windows. For me on Mac full screen works fine.
I think Maschine 4 is around the corner. The basic integration for the new S Series tells the whole story. Think about it, they released Machine 3 software but there's no hardware to fully use it's full capabilities with. Why? Imagine Windows 11 without a PC .🤷🏾♂
Not sure if you saw my last video but according to one of the devs from the Maschine team, no new Maschine hardware is coming any time soon.
What cant Maschine MK3 do to fully use its capabilities? Stem separation is done by your PC, its not going to ported over to Maschine Plus, it simply does not have the processing power. Also yes, NI reps over at the Maschine forum have confirmed repeatedly that there is no new Maschine hardware on the horizon. They havent fully maxed out the use of the MK3 yet with those glorious screens, theres a ton they could do buuut they wont cause they are NI and we still dont even have automation editing or a sampler with timestretch lmao
May I ask what Screen you are using in your studio :-)
Asus ProArt 27 inch 1440p
@@LowHeatBeats thanks :-) damn just saw that I cannot run the new software in Big sur
Great video, hermano! Hey man so I'm having an issues with a "Download Fail" when trying to install Maschine Central. Mac M1 mamOS15.1. Any thoughts?
Thank you! I think I had the same problem, just tried again later and it worked 🤷♂️
Ok I tried it and indeed it makes no difference, anything except whats mentioned is exactly the same
no workflow improvements
Yup
Ventura and later?? Waaaaackkk
Yeah, I wanted to stay on Monterey as long as possible but had to upgrade to run Maschine 3.
@ unfortunately my 2015 iMac won’t update past Monterey so I’d have to upgrade my whole rig, I’m not as serious about producing these days so I can’t justify it, bummer
It's not a feature packed upgrade, but its ok. Stem separation is awesome to have - even if purely to shut the mouths of boastful MPC bros 😊
I'll wait for the M+ compatibility, and upgrade with the new Maschine Central pack.
I think the price is actually very reasonable, much cheaper than I was expecting!
Anyway, it's great to finally see some advancement of Maschine - its still one of the best grooveboxes on the market. I can't complain 😁
Rip n.i
Basically you get a new expansion for £25... Good deal. But certainly I would not call this Maschine 3...
its such a small, underwhelming update, why would you want to ask for more money?
Because it’s garbage?? Because it shouldn’t even be a paid “update”?
right? glad I just switched to akai. bye NI
10 yuears for a gui update and literally just ripping the stems function off Izotope RX11, of which they own now. It's only 29 dollars, so there's that, but it should never have been called Maschine 3.0. this is 2.5 at best. No automation fixes, no better daw integration. IMPORT MP3!? wow 2010 is calling. This is embarassing in my opinion. Where is full randomization of kits and/or parameters, it's 2024. This is why I use XLN Audio XO exclusively, Maschine is now behind.
well said
Big trash!! What’s going on with NI ??
Nothing really compelling if you already have a DAW. I use Logic 11 which has Stems and a load of other options. For $29 it’s not bad but realistically they shouldn't be charging for this. I’ll probably wait.
This update is so wack it should've been a free update.
Bruh this is why I packed up my Maschine and put it in the storage drawer a long time ago. I figured this update would be buns.
Facts
Dont get why they didnt update the maschine + on standalone. Cause they promised a update for maschine + for a long time and now they come with a maschine 3.0software and 0 use case.... and dont get why as a maschine + user on the standalone side that i should pay for the 3.0... just give the damn software for the plus users... and some features you can go back and forth with project on from stand alone to controller mode with your projects... there are soo many things they should have added... software disappointing.. no maschine+update disappointing... paying for this is really disappointing...
It doesn't matter how good NI products are; customer support CAN NOT BE CONTACTED! No EMAIL, NO PHONE, and Chat is hardly managed. So if you have a problem like I do what the hell do you do?
I'm sorry but the stem separation was trash 😂 might as well just use fadr and just sample from there. Feel like they just added it there without any science behind it just to shut us up since every other Daw has the function.. I really need to do some thinking b4 I put any money into this when it should’ve been free
Damn as a xbox fan I feel offended at the end lol ( jk)
lmaooooo
They're going to do new hardware. Everything's discounted now. Kind of want to pick up a mikro if the pads are as good as on my studio. I'll hold out for the next generation hardware and get back into maschine if they put actual effort into 3.0. They really are focused on making trash plugins that are easy to churn out that I guess normies can't stop eating up.
Matthew from the Maschine product team has stated that no new Maschine hardware is coming soon. I covered this in my last video. They do this sale every year for the past 2-3 years. Can you recommend me some "non-normie plugins"?
@LowHeatBeats yeah anything that's not kumplete output and anything else shilltubers dickride
You can’t export mp3 🤷🏾♂️🤣
Not yet, but now that we can import them, I guess export might come soon.
Not worth it when NI stops making drivers for their hardware even soundcards that work perfectly fine, no thanks for forced upgrades.
I hate to say it but this update is TRASH bro!
I knew this was gonna happen in the comments. This was one of the reasons I was waiting to see what the community would say. Great vid as usual LH. Blessings! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽💯
It is what it is. I wouldn't go as far as calling it trash, especially for the modest price, but it's understandable that people were expecting more from a 3.0.
@@PULSEMusicGroup Thanks man, appreciate you stopping by!
@@LowHeatBeatsyo low heat….I downloaded 3.0 today and my kits won’t load….can audition sounds and see all my expansions in the tabs etc…but they won’t load? Any insight
For $30 just to get native stem separation is nice but then again it’s probably depending on what kind of device your using and how fast it will take etc but I think it’s worth it then using a free internet stem app
Not worth it at all. I’ve lost features. And all the “new” features have had work arounds for 10 years. Kontrol s mk1 is nothing more than a lit up keybed and the lights don’t indicate anything at all. 😂 NI is cooked. Akai has lapped them.
…because they added almost nothing
missing daw-intagration sucks since 9 years...internal daw sucks to...havn`t find a way to use that maschine in any song i have made (in cubase)...just sitting on the table and look nice is not enought...since 2023 my two keyboards (komplete kontrol s61 and s25 mk1) have no support from native instruments, so they don`t work with komplete kontrol any more...spent hundrets of euros for nothing...native instruments sucks...never again!
Hell yeah I'm gonna upgrade!
You my Brother and NI have made my day! With the election and the future of our country I wasn't too sure. But after doing my assessment of life I'm more optimistic that will be alright will see thank you.
Maybe it's time for a new way of thinking is the way I'm looking at it!😂
And your right about the console Wars being really stupid! If your an Artist your weapon of choice doesn't matter just make good music.
I've been with NI since the first Maschine and then I had a MPC 1000
Now I have a Maschine Plus, MPC One Plus a SP404MK2 and a Ableton Move.
Each piece of gear gives me a different way to groove. Just do what's good for you.
We also have content creators that hate on specific brands because of there personnel preference.
Don't believe the hype especially when you see what they use and probably get free gear or get paid to hype.
Music is the key to life enjoy it and only subscribe to positive people like this Brother!
Have a great day Fam!😎
Thanks fam, appreciate your positivity and kind words!
How can one call it "major" or even "update"... It's a marketing lie! The gui is almost the same just black, the midi function just for the mouse should have been there since day one, stem separation a late gimmic, real integration with Ni keyboards missing and at the end death for "older" hardware from ni.
And all of that after asking the community for around half a year..
Maschine misses so many things meanwhile, that a real major update should have a serious long list of added features but we see.... this. No honesty left.
Oh i forgot to say bounce in place was almost there with drag n drop..
This upgrade is a joke.... Sorry.. But probably the worst software version since.... Arturia Spark2... But that's Ok .. I wasn't expecting anything good from NI... I had to wait year for my Kontrol MK3 to have a the ability to create midi templates...
It should be free...it's cheap because it is terrible...lazy effort by NI....they are the absolute worst...they should be ashamed of themselves...shut down the entire company and stop ripping people off...every other company in the world has NI beat by miles and miles and miles...I can't stress enough that no serious musician should ever invest in NI...terrible sound quality compared to akai, roland, etc.....NOT EVEN CLOSE..DO NOT BUY...DO NOT BUY...I just saved your life and your music
Cause its trash. That's why.
Damn those stems sound kinda wack AF
Not great sounding but we have to compare the exact same sample on other platforms to be able to judge.
@@LowHeatBeats Yeah , agreed . i'm deffo happy to have the tech available in Maschine regardless !
@@LowHeatBeats vocal sounded ok to me , not so sure about the ' other parts' though, stem sep may be good for dj edits though of old dance tracks ?