Some weird people online: I WANT THE LOVE LIKE JOKER AND HARLEY Comic Fans and people who know like us: NO YOU REALLY DON'T. Honestly I'm GLAD that Harley is now happy with Ivy considering how Joker treated her.
Abusive relationships don't just apply to couples, it can be with a friend, a parent, a sibling, an aunt, an uncle, a cousin, a teacher, anyone really. There are various degrees of abuse that aren't just physical, there is emotional abuse, mental abuse, manipulation, just to name a few.
Imo this was actually the biggest problem with Suice Squad 2016. It romanticized the relationship between Joker and Harley and made people think it was sweet instead of toxic and abusive
They apparently cut a lot of the abusive elements because it made test audiences uncomfortable...as if that wasn't the point. He wasn't coming for her because he loves her; it was more akin to reclaiming his property. At least the last time we see Harley in the DCEU, she's moved on from him and is now able to see the red flags in a person.
I went to a Halloween party and I saw a couple dressed as Joker and Harley and I was like “After all Joker has done to her, ppl still view them as a romantic couple”? I want to see more couples dress up as Deadpool & Harley or Red Tool & Harley or Poison Ivy & Harley or even Power girl & Harley.
Well let's look at it this way did they say they view them as a couple? Cause if not they probably were just dressing up cause 1. general audiences aren't aware or they just don't care that much And TBF they're just costumes Heck there were people who dressed up as the Mendez brothers and i find that to be a little messed up. Heck I seen cosplayers or fans ship Deku and Bakugo from MHA even though Bokugo never liked nor respected Deku and trust me THOSE kinds of people are just as bad if not worst.
I know this is a serious topic, but i laughed when Batman was spitting facts and practically making Harley jealous and Harley retaliates by by decking him in the face. It's the equivalent of "you gonna let him do you like that? Couldn't be me"
@@fynnthefox9078Below Joker? Or below a writers? There are things a character cannot do on TV obviously (unless its anime.) If something is below Joker all it means is that a localized publisher won't allow that content. But there is no logical way to argue that is beneath Joker. Thats simply something writers can't "sell" Joker's character with.
@@wolfuii4171Joker doesn't have much morals. But fans of the Joker project their own morals onto Joker to say what he wouldn't do. "Joker is plenty of things. But he wouldn't say something anti semetic
Honestly, I hate Harley and Ivy’s relationship. I’m not homophobic or want Joker and Harley to be together but they just don’t work the TV show kind of proves it. I like when Harleys single and has random flings and dips and does more random shit. And Joker does his own crazy shit.
I knew someone who went through abuse throughout their entire childhood, they were a close friend of mine. When they finally snapped and attacked their mother, they say they couldn't remember any of it, and their mother wasn't one of their abusers, their mother said it wasn't them that attack her, their voice, personality, and even the look in their eye was just... wrong. My old friend can't remember anything for three-to-four DAYS, because of their mental break and being sedated during most of that time. They ended up in a mental hospital due to an insanity plea. I haven't talked to them in a while, but I hope they get the help they need. The point of this story, is that humans have limits. Once they hit that limit, no one is safe. They aren't at fault, they weren't in control of themselves and you can't blame anyone for abuse except the abuser, but that's just it. They've taken the fall for something totally out of their control. Humans suck sometimes.
I’ve never been in a relationship before but I’ve heard many stories before from people who suffered in toxic relationships. This goes to show that most people don’t know who they may end up with without realising until it’s too late
I feel bad for Harley because she was so desperate to try and make the Joker proud but of course Joker doesn’t care about her at all since he always abuses her but she keeps going back to him. Also in the Harley Quinn show doesn’t she finally understand how the Joker has been mistreating her or something so she ends up leaving him for good?
In my personal opinion at some point harley deserves some of that her did or helped kill torture traumatized innocent men women and children and I know she was manipulated but she still did it, it doesn’t bring back the lives that where takin
I agree with this take, I genuinely don’t understand the way DC is trying to act as if she never did what she did? Atleast with characters like Zuko there is way more work put in, and everyone doesn’t magically forget
@ exactly it’s just odd to me Her redemption in my opinion is never executed well, it’s not the forgiveness I’m mad at, it’s how damn quickly it happens that frustrates me It’s possible to be a victim AND an abuser
@@RyomenAyeni225 not to mention that there trying to push her as a girl boss when they have better people for that “WW raven cat woman vixen” actual heroes or anti heroes also to add they decided to bring her genocidel girlfriend who i am pretty sure committed warcrimes with her
@ ONG 😭 They’ve basically nerfed tf out of Ivy’s character, she used to be a dangerous villain but now she’s just “Harley’s girlfriend” Remind me why she cares about Harley??? Wasn’t the point of her character that she hated humans and was obsessed with nature??? But tbf I didn’t watch the Harley Quinn show so I dk what’s going on
Why do this? These things damage the Joker's image, he is already a controversial character, and he still abuses his girlfriend, these writers only do shit
She could do so much better it's not even funny, poor girl has no idea. 2 with a 10 and the 2 has the audacity to treat her like that. Fool really is crazy.
I met a couple who had matching Joker and Harley tattoos that they were proudly showing off and asked, "what the hell is wrong with you two?" before I could stop myself.
Looking at Joker and Harley's abusive relationships, how he treats her and how she always falls into his traps. It really makes you wonder how Harley (somebody who has a PhD in psychology, mind you) can somehow be so easily manipulated 🤨
Ever since harley's first appearance in mad love I have nothing but empathy for her she's just a broken naive girl who's trying so hard to please the joker no matter how many people she killed which I'm not condoning so don't attack me on that she never got any of his love or attention but his abusive manipulative behavior and I feel sorry for her which is why I'm glad her character has evolved from being jokers lapdog to being a deadpool like anti hero which a lot of fans seem to hate but I don't care
After Harley Quinn left Joker we got the Harley Quinn wannabe punch line who just tries to be a replacement for Harley so it is not all good that she left we still got someone who wants to replace her but punch line will never be like Harley Harley Quinn will always be the best
Also people, Harley kills and kisses @ss of Joker. Stop talking her up. It's both ways a toxic relationship, and oh yes...m IT'S FICTION. It's a fk story stop trashing something that's just written for people's amusement. Not for trying to stop.
Trivia: The animated version of The Killing Joke is also set in the same world as JLU, as well as perhaps a few more of the recent animated films. Yes, Barbara Gordon really did have sex with Bruce Wayne. And it went on for a while because they had a baby together (Barbara lost them in a miscarriage). This is referenced in Return of the Joker and is the reason for the falling out between Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson. Bruce Timm has always shopped Barbara and Bruce for some reason.
You forgot injustice ground zero where injustice harley finally has enough and beats the shit out of joker that joker literally is crawling back to prime Earth Batman begging him to take him back
Eh, she gives as good as she gets so I genuinely don’t care. They are BOTH at fault for the relationship, mainly i blame Harley for being in the relationship knowing what will happen.
@ uh no, harley has hit him, joker has hit harley. Harley chose the relationship and goes back to it so i blame her for the entire situation because she has the ability to just NOT go back but always did.
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Some weird people online: I WANT THE LOVE LIKE JOKER AND HARLEY
Comic Fans and people who know like us: NO YOU REALLY DON'T.
Honestly I'm GLAD that Harley is now happy with Ivy considering how Joker treated her.
Yay
She swapped one horrible psychopath for another
@@seansmith6255 Compared to The Joker, Ivy is just mean girl in your class
@@thehedgehognerd I guess
She's still an borderline rapey omnicide megalomaniac
@@thehedgehognerd I guess
She's still an borderline rapey omnicide megalomaniac
@@thehedgehognerdI guess
She's still an borderline rapey omnicide megalomaniac
Important Reminder:Joker and Harley Quinn should never be romanticised.
Literally the point of the couple
@@Sticwick yep everyone knows that besides David Ayer and people who romanticise Jared Leto Joker and Margot Robbie Harley Quinn.
No it shouldn't
Why not?? they're so cute together ❤️
There are alternate universes for a reason; the two characters don't always have to be like this.
Abusive relationships don't just apply to couples, it can be with a friend, a parent, a sibling, an aunt, an uncle, a cousin, a teacher, anyone really. There are various degrees of abuse that aren't just physical, there is emotional abuse, mental abuse, manipulation, just to name a few.
Imo this was actually the biggest problem with Suice Squad 2016. It romanticized the relationship between Joker and Harley and made people think it was sweet instead of toxic and abusive
They apparently cut a lot of the abusive elements because it made test audiences uncomfortable...as if that wasn't the point. He wasn't coming for her because he loves her; it was more akin to reclaiming his property.
At least the last time we see Harley in the DCEU, she's moved on from him and is now able to see the red flags in a person.
I know right
I went to a Halloween party and I saw a couple dressed as Joker and Harley and I was like “After all Joker has done to her, ppl still view them as a romantic couple”?
I want to see more couples dress up as Deadpool & Harley or Red Tool & Harley or Poison Ivy & Harley or even Power girl & Harley.
That seems like it was healthy relationship then the og
@@blueraccoon1088 yeah but a healthy couple dressing up as a toxic couple doesn’t feel right.
Well let's look at it this way did they say they view them as a couple? Cause if not they probably were just dressing up cause 1. general audiences aren't aware or they just don't care that much
And TBF they're just costumes
Heck there were people who dressed up as the Mendez brothers and i find that to be a little messed up.
Heck I seen cosplayers or fans ship Deku and Bakugo from MHA even though Bokugo never liked nor respected Deku and trust me THOSE kinds of people are just as bad if not worst.
@@blueraccoon1088hey dude I didn't expect you here
It’s a Halloween party, people dress up as mass murderers & monsters, and you’re offended by this couple 😂
I know this is a serious topic, but i laughed when Batman was spitting facts and practically making Harley jealous and Harley retaliates by by decking him in the face. It's the equivalent of "you gonna let him do you like that? Couldn't be me"
If Joker can get a girlfriend and I can't, I need to step my game up.
Don't chase and simp, let the chicks like Quinn chase you.
I don't believe Joker’s a pedophile, he was just using Ace for her power. Similar to Harley as a henchmen/tool but NOT in a sexaul way like Quinn.
Yeah, Joker's twisted but that's below him. He'd probably be creepy towards Batman tho.
@@fynnthefox9078your saying that he he isn’t already doing that?
@@fynnthefox9078Below Joker? Or below a writers? There are things a character cannot do on TV obviously (unless its anime.)
If something is below Joker all it means is that a localized publisher won't allow that content. But there is no logical way to argue that is beneath Joker. Thats simply something writers can't "sell" Joker's character with.
@@wolfuii4171Joker doesn't have much morals. But fans of the Joker project their own morals onto Joker to say what he wouldn't do.
"Joker is plenty of things. But he wouldn't say something anti semetic
@@sumnahlennon5449😂 i see what you did there
You forgot to talk about The batman Telltale series the roles switch, harley quinn, became the abuser and Joker became the victim
Honestly, I hate Harley and Ivy’s relationship. I’m not homophobic or want Joker and Harley to be together but they just don’t work the TV show kind of proves it. I like when Harleys single and has random flings and dips and does more random shit. And Joker does his own crazy shit.
I knew someone who went through abuse throughout their entire childhood, they were a close friend of mine. When they finally snapped and attacked their mother, they say they couldn't remember any of it, and their mother wasn't one of their abusers, their mother said it wasn't them that attack her, their voice, personality, and even the look in their eye was just... wrong. My old friend can't remember anything for three-to-four DAYS, because of their mental break and being sedated during most of that time. They ended up in a mental hospital due to an insanity plea. I haven't talked to them in a while, but I hope they get the help they need. The point of this story, is that humans have limits. Once they hit that limit, no one is safe. They aren't at fault, they weren't in control of themselves and you can't blame anyone for abuse except the abuser, but that's just it. They've taken the fall for something totally out of their control. Humans suck sometimes.
Her show also has a moment of relapse that quickly made her open her eyes again and had pretty bad consequences for her.
Can you do a video on the best superhero and villain couples? Or superheroes fall for the villain and vice versa.
You should try top 10 nerd my favorite superhero creators besides NeedleMouse
Can’t believe Batman in the animated character animated series created Harley Quinn, such an infamous character
I think it's amazing that no version has been as good or harrowing as the 90s kids show
I’ve never been in a relationship before but I’ve heard many stories before from people who suffered in toxic relationships. This goes to show that most people don’t know who they may end up with without realising until it’s too late
I feel bad for Harley because she was so desperate to try and make the Joker proud but of course Joker doesn’t care about her at all since he always abuses her but she keeps going back to him. Also in the Harley Quinn show doesn’t she finally understand how the Joker has been mistreating her or something so she ends up leaving him for good?
10:23. It’s funny when Killer Croc and ManBat says it. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
So yeah, this is the reason why I changed My Dachshund OC’s Name to Marley instead of Harley, great video by the way.
Dang, this was a good video. Thanks for doing this one!!
Love uour vids
In my personal opinion at some point harley deserves some of that her did or helped kill torture traumatized innocent men women and children and I know she was manipulated but she still did it, it doesn’t bring back the lives that where takin
I agree with this take, I genuinely don’t understand the way DC is trying to act as if she never did what she did?
Atleast with characters like Zuko there is way more work put in, and everyone doesn’t magically forget
@ and at least he had personal episodes where he helped the team in unique ways
@ exactly it’s just odd to me
Her redemption in my opinion is never executed well, it’s not the forgiveness I’m mad at, it’s how damn quickly it happens that frustrates me
It’s possible to be a victim AND an abuser
@@RyomenAyeni225 not to mention that there trying to push her as a girl boss when they have better people for that “WW raven cat woman vixen” actual heroes or anti heroes also to add they decided to bring her genocidel girlfriend who i am pretty sure committed warcrimes with her
@ ONG 😭
They’ve basically nerfed tf out of Ivy’s character, she used to be a dangerous villain but now she’s just “Harley’s girlfriend”
Remind me why she cares about Harley??? Wasn’t the point of her character that she hated humans and was obsessed with nature???
But tbf I didn’t watch the Harley Quinn show so I dk what’s going on
I wish we had a Peace of media that has joker loves harley
White Knight comics
The lego games
Thank you I still want more tho
Never thought I’d be here this early
10:48-11:16 doesn't that prove that Joker ALWAYS knows exactly which buttons to push?
Why do this? These things damage the Joker's image, he is already a controversial character, and he still abuses his girlfriend, these writers only do shit
She could do so much better it's not even funny, poor girl has no idea. 2 with a 10 and the 2 has the audacity to treat her like that. Fool really is crazy.
I met a couple who had matching Joker and Harley tattoos that they were proudly showing off and asked, "what the hell is wrong with you two?" before I could stop myself.
Looking at Joker and Harley's abusive relationships, how he treats her and how she always falls into his traps.
It really makes you wonder how Harley (somebody who has a PhD in psychology, mind you) can somehow be so easily manipulated 🤨
Ever since harley's first appearance in mad love I have nothing but empathy for her she's just a broken naive girl who's trying so hard to please the joker no matter how many people she killed which I'm not condoning so don't attack me on that she never got any of his love or attention but his abusive manipulative behavior and I feel sorry for her which is why I'm glad her character has evolved from being jokers lapdog to being a deadpool like anti hero which a lot of fans seem to hate but I don't care
Batman Begins: Return of the Joker? Still a great Video.
Did you say batman begins return of the joker ?😂
Maybe you should think about doing a video on this really old TV show Street Sharks
After Harley Quinn left Joker we got the Harley Quinn wannabe punch line who just tries to be a replacement for Harley so it is not all good that she left we still got someone who wants to replace her but punch line will never be like Harley Harley Quinn will always be the best
Joker is in love with Batman
Harley left Joker for ivy
8:48 - 8:52 It was a murder but not a crime.
You should talk about the abusive relationship between lex luthor and mercy graves
Also people, Harley kills and kisses @ss of Joker. Stop talking her up. It's both ways a toxic relationship, and oh yes...m IT'S FICTION. It's a fk story stop trashing something that's just written for people's amusement. Not for trying to stop.
This at 8:16 to 9:08 cutscene has russian subtittles
Is there at least one universe where they're in a both sided relationship?
12:28-12:32 me too.
Joker is chris brown
Ike Turner
Batman and Harley Quinn was a weird movie😂😂😂,and it supposedly takes place during JLU
Trivia: The animated version of The Killing Joke is also set in the same world as JLU, as well as perhaps a few more of the recent animated films. Yes, Barbara Gordon really did have sex with Bruce Wayne. And it went on for a while because they had a baby together (Barbara lost them in a miscarriage). This is referenced in Return of the Joker and is the reason for the falling out between Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson. Bruce Timm has always shopped Barbara and Bruce for some reason.
would you cuntinue arkham shadows soon?
Harley was better as Joker’s henchwoman/girlfriend
Wow
You forgot injustice ground zero where injustice harley finally has enough and beats the shit out of joker that joker literally is crawling back to prime Earth Batman begging him to take him back
Eh, she gives as good as she gets so I genuinely don’t care.
They are BOTH at fault for the relationship, mainly i blame Harley for being in the relationship knowing what will happen.
That's really more Punchline. Harley was always portrayed as being obsessive, but not cruel. Punchline is just as evil and sadistic as Joker.
@ uh no, harley has hit him, joker has hit harley. Harley chose the relationship and goes back to it so i blame her for the entire situation because she has the ability to just NOT go back but always did.
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