Willard battle! Rdunae Vs. SteelDive | Looks over value? | Watch comparison | The Watcher
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- Опубликовано: 16 фев 2022
- Check out the comparison between the Rdunae & Steeldive Willard homages. Both are stunning but the Steeldive offers so much value for money. But is it all about value or refinement?
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Rdunae Cap't Willard
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Steeldive SD1970 T (PT5000)
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Overall the Rdunae is better in every single way than the Steeldive. If you compare both with the original , the Rdunae is closer because the measurements, bezel, crystal, finishing and dial markers. I own the original Willard from Seiko and I own as well the Steeldive and this new Rdunae (black version) and in my opinion, I prefer by far the Rdunae over the Steeldive. Thanks for this great review.
I agree, the Rdunae is more accurate. I had the Steeldive and I sold it to get the Rdunae once I saw it and this review. I also got the black one because it was more like the original. Someday I plan on snagging an original, but still too expensive for my wallet now, maybe when I am better paid. lol
Good video mate. I was one of the first to preorder the Rdunae when they showed. As a bit of a Seikopath myself, I could instantly tell the differences between this and the Steeldive and Heimdallr versions. It sorta annoyed me to see some people writing off the Rdunae and pointing towards the cheaper Steeldive. Because there are a lot of details and design choices that Rdunae have gone to the expense of doing in an effort to really evoke the original Seiko 6105.
I think the Steeldive is great if you want an inexpensive beater and/or you like the general look of the 6105 Willard. Because as you said, the value is undeniably superb. But the Rdunae really is one for the Seiko enthusiasts, for someone who can appreciate all the details on the Rdunae. I wonder if Rdunae will continue to make faithful homages of other vintage Seiko divers.
Yeh i totally agree and I'm one to follow what you said. I can appreciate the extent that Rdunae went to and the costs associated with it. Its not always about value but this only comes into realisation as you mature through the hobby. When you first start off in the affordable/homage game, specs are all that matters but after you realise its not just specs. We're agreed in what you said, be well mate and thanks for watching and messaging 👍🏼🤝🏼🤜🏽
The Rdunae has the exact specifications of the Seiko 6105-8110: 19mm lug width, crown at 4, domed Glass, aluminium insert and so on. The even copied the "lock" on the crown.
If you want a good watch for a price that can't be beaten, get the Steeldive.
If you want to get as close as possible to the original Seiko Willard without spending thousands of Dollars, get the Rdunae. It's a real hommage to a real watch.
I agree, its the closest copy
I was hoping someone would comment on how accurately they followed seikos design. On spencer Kleins channel he even put a genuine 6105 movement dial stream into the 6105-8000.
100% agree.
I orded mine yesterday in gray. 😁
Sd is insane value for money. I ended up purchasing 5 of them in 1 year, 2 for myself, 1 for the wife, 1 for the daughter and 1 for a cousin...all willards and all make them happy...
Let’s not kid ourselves we all know the Rdunae pound for pound is just a better watch. And what I mean better it’s just the best homage out in the market of the Captain Willard.
Better than San Martin?
Nice video. Been putting off buying a Willard homage for a while but just picked one up in the AliExpress sale for £47 delivered - and that's on the bracelet (which I understand, now has a milled clasp). I hope I'm not disappointed.
With a Willard homage, it shouldn't be about value - it should be about how close it looks to the original, otherwise why bother with an homage at all?
I have a Heimdallr and I've never been happy with the look. It just doesn't look right. I also have the Willard reissue, which is a fantastic watch, but again, doesn't feel/look like the Willard (a dropped ball by Seiko - they shouldn't have messed around with a 5 thousand dollar limited edition, or the Frankenstein reissue and should have instead just given us a fully accurate reissue at tool watch prices, like the Turtle).
This Rdunae has really caught my eye with that case shape...
Absolutely great video. You are terrific at these comparisons. So much appreciated.
I have the steeldive and it's insane value for money. Great quality watch and there's nothing I've seen from other Willard's to convince me to spend more than twice the price.
And i dont think there will be something to beat the steeldive
Then why are you watching this?
Evidently RD pays a lot of attention to details. Just look at the "Lock" sign on the crown. Arguably this is a more faithful re-creation of the Willard than the Seiko re-edition. This is what the RD should be compared to.
I've got two Steeldive "Willards" The black, and the green. To be fair, bang for buck I don't think they can be beaten. Totally happy with them both !!
Excellent vid mate, proper rate these comparisons. Keep up the awesome work
Thanks my bro, glad you like them, more coming!!
For those complaining about the 19mm lug width on the Rdunae, I guarantee you can squeeze a 20mm strap on it. Their earlier release of the 6105-8000 was this way also, and it looks just fine. It actually comes with a 20mm tropic strap on it. Keeping the 19mm lug width goes along with printing 150m Water PROOF on the dial (which is not allowed anymore), ↪️ LOCK on the crown (when it's a screw down crown), and retaining the shape of the original watch it's meant to homage/replicate. The 8000 was almost a one to one replica of the original, and I'm betting this one is, also.
Absolutely... and I appreciate Retangula's attempt to offer something different; A little more fidelity which probably comes from a genuine appreciation of the original 8110.
At this point I have to add ... if you can't fit a 20 mm strap on this then you don't deserve owning this watch. Because brother you're just not man enough.
I have the SteelDive SD1970 "version 2" and I love it. You're right, it is incredible value. That said, the RDUNAE is looking very tempting as an "upgrade". I appreciate the case finishing between the lugs, which with a rubber strap is very visibly lacking on the SD1970 and has always bothered me a little.
I really like the Retangula attention to detail and the fact they've been a lot more faithful to the iconic watch from 1970.
The Steeldive all day long. Gold on a “semi-military tool watch”? Nah.
The only thing I wish they’d get more right in the reflection of the minute markers by the beveled glass. On the Seiko 6105 the reflection of the minute markers makes it look like there are two rows of minute markers right next to each other. The Steeldive does the reflection thing but with a bigger gap between the rows than on the Seiko Willards. The other watch doesn’t even attempt what is really a signature look of the Willard.
You must think thats the only version they make. Kind of weird he chose that version for the video. But that implies hes not too concerned with homaging, more just comparing fit and finish etc of homages.
Interesting. I think when looking at a homage watch, you have to factor in accuracy to the original. So, to me, the Rdunae is worth the extra money as it is a closer replica to the original.
So my Rdunae Willard arrived and it's fantastic!!!
Just feels so much more like the original Willard than any of the other homages did/do.
Couple nitpicks:
- Numbers on the bezel ring could use some adjustment in size and thickness to bring them closer to the original.
- Domed crystal, while better than a flat one, still need a bit more doming to it (at least that's what I'm seeing in comparison with the original)
Also makes me realize that the other current homages seem more like an homage to the re-issued Seiko SPB151.
I loved your review. It helped me make the decision between the two. I've gone for the Rdunae/ Retangula because those differences make the watch worth the extra money, in my opinion. The Retangula is definitely the more accurate homage to the original Seiko 6105 8110. I thought the Steeldive looks flatter and less aesthetically pleasing with the flat crystal. Also, the engraving on the crown mimics the original 'Captain Willard', since it has the word 'Lock' engraved on the crown, exactly like the original. The ceramic, lumed bezel on the Steeldive is a nice feature for those who aren't bothered about homaging accuracy. It's good value for money, but in my opinion makes the watch look too new and a bit cheap.
Thanks for the excellent review and keep up the good work.
Your Reviews are so good and it's really got me into Homage watches. I have ordered a few including the Steeldive. The question I have is are the Steeldive water resistant so you can wear swimming. My previous watches were Vostok which had the look but so rugged you could wear them anywhere including the pool
With chinese watches I am sceptical with WR. While they well maybe and it is possible they can perform to the claimed WR, they are not tested for the most part. They do however have all the seals and gaskets in the right places.
Thanks man, appreciate the kind words!
A little light emery cloth action between the lugs on the Sd1970 dulls it down nicely!
Tough choice but can't beat that steeldive for raw value. I prefer the little accent and quality of the rdunae but the value of the steel is hard to beat.
Rdunae for me.
Great comparo! 2 watches I'm definitely looking at seriously (but I only need one). I have to say, I'm just no a fan of ceramic bezels. Or rather, I'm not a fan of the shiny finish they usually have on watches at this price point. So, if all other things were equal, I'd probably go with the Rdunae. But I wish it had a 20mm lug width (even if the original it's homaging also had a 19). Overall, I prefer the Rdunae (case shape, hands, bezel), but the value of the Steeldive is hard to beat. Especially with that movement.
Would like to see RDUNAE VS HEIMDALLR on the captain willard
I'd pony up the extra for Rdunae. I like how the bezel profile has a step and is raised. Looks a lot better on the profile side, plus don't like the Steeldive logo, looks a bit childish.
I've got two versions of the steel dive, date and the day/date model but I think I might sell one to go toward the Rdunae. It looks just a bit more quality for me. That double dome crystal for a start looks really good. Did I notice right on the crown they've even put the word lock and a direction arrow just like the original? Excellent review.
Yes u did they have put the word lock on it
Yes, but the lock arrow is backwards compared to the real deal.
Personally, I quite like the blue coating on the Rdunae, if that was on my Steeldive it would get a lot more wrist time!
Hullo mate.
Long time. I’ve been out of the room for a while, on watches.
I have to say, I like the gold effects on that one but I think the Steeldive looks more like what’s it’s suppose to be copying.( homaging, if that’s a word).
All the best👍🏾🇬🇧
I prefer the SD, even in point the Rt seems to be the winner.
100% the steeldive
@@watch-boxAnd the branding Rdunae. Reminds me of Only Fools and Horses. Del Boy and Rdunea!😂
I can't go without saying you're the Gold standard in watch reviews I rarely check the community post not that I was surprised but Congrats on so many views Awesome to say the least With enough Willard's in my collection I am seriously considering SD's 1977 very nice especially since I've never had problems with Steeldive Thanks again my friend 👍
Alwaya appreciate ur comms Mike, a pleasure to read them and thank you for the very kind comments!
@@TheWatcherReviews I also have to tell ya My daughter and I took a couple old beaters down range and had a blast putting some shots down range and completely destroying 3 Sorry to say she won our little wager that we had agreed on she nailed 3 out of 5 shots Me not so much ps, they were old quartz beaters
Not even close, the Rdunae wins with just looking at the two watches side by side.
Much better looking watch 4 Sure
I find it very hard to wind and set the Steeldive PT5000 - you are right about the crown. Mine also has quite a loud rotor - am I right to assume it is unidirectional winding?
Yes its unidirectional winding. Some are quite loud and stiffer than others
Same here reference winding my steeldive
You had me @ „20mm lug width instead of 19“…
damm . . . this review in a way makes the choice harder, unless i get both . . cheers R
I’ve got steeldive and for 58 euros there is no watch matching the quality
Have you seen the Steeldive 1970W Turtle Day/date?
Rdunae vs San Martin is the question.
I prefer the Steeldive even if it was their NH35 version as the prices are so low. The brand Rdunea reminds me of 'Del Boy and Rodney' too much also. They should rethink that for sure.
Please please please do rdunae Willard vs heimdallr willard for the championship
You mean San Martin vs Rdunae.
@@SrJonAnthony san Martin not in the tournament :)
I loved my SD1970 but that Rdunae with the gold elements is gorgeous. Shame about the 19mm lug width & that crazy price.
180$ is crazy?
@@SrJonAnthony it is when the steeldive is so good for so much less
Quartz or solar quartz please.
I have the Steeldive. The only let down for me was the hands. So I replaced them with better quality matching hands with a brushed mid & polished bevel edges.
Perfect change, they used to have the better hands with the polish and chamfer and brushed centres, but they downgraded, but what can you expect when they went down so cheap!
Nice video, i love your content! I have a steedive tuna (looks fantastic) and I intend to buy the sd1972 model, have you already take a look at this model?
My guy! Yes i think i have! Check my other vids
Awsome
Hey Watcher, are you reviewing a Retangula or a Rdunae? Or are they both the same?
Same thing bud, company is called rdunae and this is retangula
Oh right! Makes sense. I was so confused the whole way! 😆🤦♂️
I've had a Steeldive, and it's certainly brilliant value for money, I think the Captain Willard is my favourite watch, I splashed out on the Swiss movement (ETA 2824-2) "Custom Made" Heimdallr, which I think is also excellent value given the movement and higher standard of finish. I've just ordered a champagne dial, titanium version, again from Heimdallr. The Rdunae models are also pretty decent. There's plenty of choice, personally I think they look better with aluminium bezel inserts, but a ceramic bezel wouldn't put me off given how easy it is to change them. It's a good time for fans of the Chinese watch makers, I hope the industry continues to thrive in the face of the American trade war against China. They certainly offer fantastic value compared to the established brands. Great video, thanks for posting!
The Steeldive is a sensational watch for the money, but I sold mine on as the watch face seems a little small for my tastes.
I thing a Steeldive plus an upgrade milled clasp from AliExpress is just about the best watch out there for the money.
overall i prefer the steeldive more.
I've been trying to decide between the Steeldive or Heimdallr Willard ? 🤔
Steeldive runs 50% cheaper
The Rdunae wins by a mile on the dial logo alone let alone the rest.
Heimdallr Willard is the best in my opinion, but i might get the rdaunae after seeing this review.
Steeldive looks more authentic as they were no gold on the original Willard
You can get it without gold. That’s not really the point here.
I didn't want to say lol
Can't understand the 19mm lug width it's just something that will put people off buying it. Another good review mate.
They've stuck to the OG dimensions which had the 19mm lug width, it makes strap changes a nightmare
Ok, now i'll tease you... all these Willard cases can be seen something between a fried egg on a pan or a squeezed burger, either way i feel full!!! Let's change the meal, it's late for breakfast! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤪
Thanks mate, just not my cup of tea... for breakfast, always! 😋😁
Lmao Stavvy, i dont know if this comment was a riddle or something else...anyway always love reading your comments bro, keep them coming!
Dumb comment.
Cheap replicas that lack the real deal feel.
Not at all
@@TheWatcherReviews
You're opinion is bias as you have a financial self interest in promoting these knock off watches. You get paid youtube money and review watches you don't even pay for. Get real.
Not at all bro, u don't even know me or my videos.
@@TheWatcherReviews
Liar
😂
You started mispronouncing Rdunae about half way through the video.. kind of distracting. Good video otherwise though. Steeldive is still on my list
Mate i got sick of saying it, you havent seen the edited stuff i took out. An awkward word indeed!
@@TheWatcherReviews oh I'm sure 🤣🤣
A little more effort my friend would be appreciated. Simply talking and flicking the wrist is a little boring. Not a great effort.
What would you like me to do friend? Dance around?
Seems to work fine for Random Rob and other alike but I am open for suggestions 🤣
@@TheWatcherReviews No need to dance but I think a follow up video needs to add new points of interest visually.
@@dazzlerjohnwatchman8215 but its a comparison...im all for constructive criticism but give me some point to consider. Its a bit vague buddy.