This is very helpful thanks . I wish you showed how you ended up running another wire to the fan . This is the only part I still don’t understand considering I have zero experience in this area .
Gosh I should have made a video when I added these lights to my kitchen😂 I added 6 lights in total it turned out great! I had no attic at all, had to use a 6ft flex bit to drill through a lot of studs(I put the light 3ft apart and had to blindly drill 2 studs in between each sometimes 3) it’s an old house so they used plenty of framing. Wish I had your dust bowl, I had to make my holes in plaister😂 Good tip on starting in reverse and as for fishing the wire, I had glow in the dark fish sticks from Klein, they work great but it is really a lot of time and guess work to fish through the blind holes you make with a flex bit
Real quick tip if you see this… first off good use of romex connectors when wiring up your boxes, my only advice would have been to strip out at least 4-5 inches of wire and don’t leave more than a quarter inch of romex in the box, and instead of wire nuts, Wago connectors make it easier and cleaner, other than that it’s a great job!!
Perfect, exactly what I was wondering. We need tobget these installed so bad, our ugly chandlier has horrible lighting. Have to give you a shoutout on our other channel. Thanks!
Great job! I’m glad to see that you have been the only person to use clamp connector at the box to secure the cables after watching a ton of videos! 👊🏽👊🏽 wonder if the lights not being UL rated can be an issue for home insurance in the event of a fire. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the feedback. Yeah I’m not sure about the insurance part but I don’t see how it’s any different from a regular switch box. I mean all the hardware is in that white plastic casing so I think it should be fine. But idk 🤷🏻♂️.
After watching many of these videos, make sure you read the NEC code book. There are rules for every step of the process, including the clamps, how the junction box should be mounted and how the wire should be secured
Bro, those selectable settings you mentioned in those junction boxes are Kelvin temperatures or settings, which causes each luminaire to render different color/light output depending.... The lower values being warmer as you go (more amber) and then it gets cooler (bluer) the higher up. Great push in getting your wiring done with a literal fishing method though; I like that kinda improvison. It's all about getting the job done safely, efficiently and esthetically pleasing with functional/practical results in the wake 💪
Thanks for the information. Never knew that about the temperatures but it makes sense. Yeah fishing pole turned out to work great, except for when it got stuck and I had to find it. Lol otherwise it was good. Thanks for stopping by.
@@Daddicated Thank you for inspiring those of us who believe pro tools are needed for EVERY electrical job....sometimes you just have to work with whatever makes sense and is at hand.
@@kgt9535 Exactly. I mean granted sometimes I feel like I would save so much more time doing something if I had proper tools but when you are in the middle of the project you just do with what you have and learn from it.
I live in Florida so wasn’t too concerned with sealing. The lights have a foam gasket that helps with the sealing. I guess over it’s not bad considering that the attic in Florida can get as hot as 120-150 deg F and we keep the house at 75-76 so that’s a difference of 45-75 degrees difference. Not sure what kind of temperature difference u get in Minnesota. But hopefully this helps.
Can we have the fan or chandelier fixture the same way because the house we move in does not have fan or any point for the chandelier other than the lights and sprinklers.
I don't know why so many people hate their ceiling fan....??? I just dont think THIS particular ceiling fan is ugly... besides that, ceiling fans save you money and promote a comfortable atmosphere... reverse a ceiling fan in winter to suck the warm air upwards if you have forced air vents near the floor... ceiling fans assist your heating/cooling system... only ceiling fans that I dislike are due to cosmetics (the ones that are the same color = light cover, blades, motor housing with the same color).
It takes up ceiling space making the room look smaller vs without the fan the room looks bigger. Plus we never used it in the living room. Also we have our vent from the top here in Florida but good point for the people who live up north about reversing the direction, never thought about it that way.
This seems like an easy enough DIY project to complete. Is the insulation not a hazard for causing the lights to overheat? Watching other videos that was mentioned.
This isn't a "no attic access" installation. You literally went into the attic lop. Do another video where there is a room or bathroom above the livingrrom and then install those lights.
I didn’t physically go into the attic. My hand went into the attic through the hole 🕳. But I can see how it would be harder to do this if there was a second floor.
@Daddicated you did a great job, but the title is a little misleading if someone were to be looking for an example where there is a second floor above. I think I may do that video and give you a shout-out. 🙌🏾
@@Daddicated Yeah, the problem is you actually had an attic. Most 2nd floor have joists that gets in the way for running wires across a ceiling and people here are trying to find the best way to go about it without tearing the whole ceiling down.
I did really like this video - especially your use of painter's tape to mark the studs and using the dust catcher when cutting the holes. I am about to install same lights in my living room. I was a bit disappointed, though, because the video title is "... WITHOUT attic access" but you then go into your attic when fishing rod doesn't reach :( Also, you've apparently fished the wire 'over' the studs rather than drilling through the studs which is the biggest hurdle faced with no access to ceiling from overhead - I am doing this install in a ceiling covered by a finished 2nd floor. I respectfully suggest that you consider renaming your video because it is a bit misleading. Thanks!
Thank you so much for your feedback. Just to clarify, I actually did not go into my attic to get the fishing pole. I used my cell phone camera and light and recorded to see where the fishing pole was through the light holes. Then I would stick my hand in the light hole and reached for it. It was a struggle but I eventually go it. That part of the house is a bit hard to reach from the attic so I had no choice but to get it from the bottom. Otherwise I probably would of just left the fishing pole there. Lol. As far as your issue with the second floor, yeah that’s a tough one not sure how you would go around that.
The 3000k or 5000k is color of the bulb, not brightness. 3000k is almost Yellow, higher colors are more blue. Yellow, white, almost blue. Search for light fixture color temperature chart for examples.
I know what you mean about color but it also affects the brightness. They kind of go hand in hand. Meaning the more yellow one is less bright and the more blue one is much brighter.
Don't splice into your existing wiring, it's not code compliant and its not safe. That wire could also have gone to anything in his own house including into another room never trust that a wire you see above your area goes to the existing light. It could lead to way more problems. Instead get someone that knows what they are doing to do the job. You don't want to deal with a house fire from improper wiring. Also boxes in these areas should always be secured otherwise they can cause issues.
I didn’t physically go into attic, I just stuck my hand in there through the hole with my phone camera. Everything was done from the inside of the house with no attic access.
@@Daddicated Google it. But to start their union busters. Just saying we need to stand with our brothers and sisters when there is not health care or retirement or safe working conditions or pollution created by a company the consumers should shop somewhere else. Thanks for asking. And good luck 👍
@@Daddicated I was trying to do an installation the other day and had trouble cause I couldn’t get to the other side and I even had a long extension bit. I also didn’t want to cut holes 🕳️
@@FeelBadForTheFuture Gotcha. I was able to use the fishing pool to get from one hole to the next and that worked for me. Not sure what you can do if you can't reach that far. You may have to cut another hole. Good luck and let me know what you ended up doing.
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This is very helpful thanks . I wish you showed how you ended up running another wire to the fan . This is the only part I still don’t understand considering I have zero experience in this area .
Great video! I can’t wait to show my husband his next project!
Lol I’m sure he will be excited
Gosh I should have made a video when I added these lights to my kitchen😂 I added 6 lights in total it turned out great! I had no attic at all, had to use a 6ft flex bit to drill through a lot of studs(I put the light 3ft apart and had to blindly drill 2 studs in between each sometimes 3) it’s an old house so they used plenty of framing. Wish I had your dust bowl, I had to make my holes in plaister😂 Good tip on starting in reverse and as for fishing the wire, I had glow in the dark fish sticks from Klein, they work great but it is really a lot of time and guess work to fish through the blind holes you make with a flex bit
Real quick tip if you see this… first off good use of romex connectors when wiring up your boxes, my only advice would have been to strip out at least 4-5 inches of wire and don’t leave more than a quarter inch of romex in the box, and instead of wire nuts, Wago connectors make it easier and cleaner, other than that it’s a
great job!!
Hey thanks for sharing. Also thanks for all the tips. Self taught here so any future tips are always helpful.
Perfect video for what we need. Thank you!
Glad I could help.
Easiest video to understand
Thank you!
I appreciate the feedback. Thanks.
Thanks for the hot tip. My project is coming up somewhere in September or October.....
Anytime. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Perfect, exactly what I was wondering. We need tobget these installed so bad, our ugly chandlier has horrible lighting. Have to give you a shoutout on our other channel. Thanks!
Glad I could help.
thank for this video!
My pleasure!
Great job! I’m glad to see that you have been the only person to use clamp connector at the box to secure the cables after watching a ton of videos! 👊🏽👊🏽 wonder if the lights not being UL rated can be an issue for home insurance in the event of a fire. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the feedback. Yeah I’m not sure about the insurance part but I don’t see how it’s any different from a regular switch box. I mean all the hardware is in that white plastic casing so I think it should be fine. But idk 🤷🏻♂️.
After watching many of these videos, make sure you read the NEC code book. There are rules for every step of the process, including the clamps, how the junction box should be mounted and how the wire should be secured
Thanks for the tip.
Bro, those selectable settings you mentioned in those junction boxes are Kelvin temperatures or settings, which causes each luminaire to render different color/light output depending....
The lower values being warmer as you go (more amber) and then it gets cooler (bluer) the higher up.
Great push in getting your wiring done with a literal fishing method though; I like that kinda improvison.
It's all about getting the job done safely, efficiently and esthetically pleasing with functional/practical results in the wake 💪
Thanks for the information. Never knew that about the temperatures but it makes sense. Yeah fishing pole turned out to work great, except for when it got stuck and I had to find it. Lol otherwise it was good. Thanks for stopping by.
@@Daddicated Thank you for inspiring those of us who believe pro tools are needed for EVERY electrical job....sometimes you just have to work with whatever makes sense and is at hand.
@@kgt9535 Exactly. I mean granted sometimes I feel like I would save so much more time doing something if I had proper tools but when you are in the middle of the project you just do with what you have and learn from it.
This is awesome !! I have a crawl space but I’m a giant human and have a thing about small spaces 😂
Glad I can help. 😊
Thanks for the video!
You’re welcome. Glad you enjoyed it.
😂😂😂.. He had a bobber, weights, hook… and if I’m not mistaken even a warm to catch fish … 🤣😅😂😂😂😂 Excellent!!! 😂😂
Glad u enjoyed it. 😅
Yo u my hero B. For real.
Lol glad I could help.
lol gettin a like just for the fishing pole!
Lol thanks. 😀
how did you connect the lights to the power source without tapping into the fan?
No I actually connected to the wire that was originally going to the fan.
On your next project, use Wago connectors instead of wire-nuts. They are much easier to use and safer.
Hey thanks for suggestion will definitely need to get some and try them out.
Wagos SUCK….. coming from a certified journeyman….
@@FeelBadForTheFuture What do you recommend instead?
Appreciate it. ✊
Thanks
How did seal them so you don't lose heat into the attic? I live in Minnesota
I live in Florida so wasn’t too concerned with sealing. The lights have a foam gasket that helps with the sealing. I guess over it’s not bad considering that the attic in Florida can get as hot as 120-150 deg F and we keep the house at 75-76 so that’s a difference of 45-75 degrees difference. Not sure what kind of temperature difference u get in Minnesota. But hopefully this helps.
How do you put them up using the wire you have up there that was on the old lights
What do you mean? I’m not sure I understand your question.
How about not having any electrical fan or light in the ceiling. How do you connect it to a switch?
You would have to run another wire to the switch.
Can we have the fan or chandelier fixture the same way because the house we move in does not have fan or any point for the chandelier other than the lights and sprinklers.
Yeah you should be able to as long as it’s not too much amps on your circuit breaker.
How did you connect to the power?
I connected power to the existing light in the middle.
Did you wire the last recessed light to the power from the existing ceiling fan? Or how did you get the power to the lights? Thanks!
Yes, I ran a wire to the ceiling fan from the last light.
What if there's nothing electrical in the ceiling?
So u wire the light in series or parallel?
I believe its a series so technically if he loses one he would lose all of them. Might be a good Idea to run emm parallel?
Parallel
I don't know why so many people hate their ceiling fan....??? I just dont think THIS particular ceiling fan is ugly... besides that, ceiling fans save you money and promote a comfortable atmosphere... reverse a ceiling fan in winter to suck the warm air upwards if you have forced air vents near the floor... ceiling fans assist your heating/cooling system... only ceiling fans that I dislike are due to cosmetics (the ones that are the same color = light cover, blades, motor housing with the same color).
It takes up ceiling space making the room look smaller vs without the fan the room looks bigger. Plus we never used it in the living room. Also we have our vent from the top here in Florida but good point for the people who live up north about reversing the direction, never thought about it that way.
What software are you using to figure out the where the lights go
I used Solidworks, but you can use any software where you have a sketching feature.
This seems like an easy enough DIY project to complete.
Is the insulation not a hazard for causing the lights to overheat? Watching other videos that was mentioned.
That’s a good concern. I honestly don’t know. Typically the led lights don’t emit much heat at all so I think it will be fine.
If the lights are rated for direct-contact it's no issue.
This isn't a "no attic access" installation. You literally went into the attic lop. Do another video where there is a room or bathroom above the livingrrom and then install those lights.
I didn’t physically go into the attic. My hand went into the attic through the hole 🕳. But I can see how it would be harder to do this if there was a second floor.
@Daddicated you did a great job, but the title is a little misleading if someone were to be looking for an example where there is a second floor above. I think I may do that video and give you a shout-out. 🙌🏾
@@Daddicated Yeah, the problem is you actually had an attic. Most 2nd floor have joists that gets in the way for running wires across a ceiling and people here are trying to find the best way to go about it without tearing the whole ceiling down.
😅😂😂
I think he was referring to the part where you don't have to actually crawl into the attic....
Dude took fish sticks too literal
😂
I thought there was no attic access.
There wasn’t everything was done from the inside of the house.
I did really like this video - especially your use of painter's tape to mark the studs and using the dust catcher when cutting the holes. I am about to install same lights in my living room. I was a bit disappointed, though, because the video title is "... WITHOUT attic access" but you then go into your attic when fishing rod doesn't reach :( Also, you've apparently fished the wire 'over' the studs rather than drilling through the studs which is the biggest hurdle faced with no access to ceiling from overhead - I am doing this install in a ceiling covered by a finished 2nd floor. I respectfully suggest that you consider renaming your video because it is a bit misleading. Thanks!
Thank you so much for your feedback. Just to clarify, I actually did not go into my attic to get the fishing pole. I used my cell phone camera and light and recorded to see where the fishing pole was through the light holes. Then I would stick my hand in the light hole and reached for it. It was a struggle but I eventually go it. That part of the house is a bit hard to reach from the attic so I had no choice but to get it from the bottom. Otherwise I probably would of just left the fishing pole there. Lol. As far as your issue with the second floor, yeah that’s a tough one not sure how you would go around that.
Agreed
The 3000k or 5000k is color of the bulb, not brightness. 3000k is almost Yellow, higher colors are more blue. Yellow, white, almost blue. Search for light fixture color temperature chart for examples.
I know what you mean about color but it also affects the brightness. They kind of go hand in hand. Meaning the more yellow one is less bright and the more blue one is much brighter.
Brightness is lumens not the hue.
Whats the name of the software ?
So I used Solidworks but there are free softwares you can find for this. Try sketch up or Onshape they should have free versions you can use.
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The title says no attic access you did have that
But I physically didn't have to go to the attic.
Dude, when they said fish rod, they didn't mean a literal fishing pole, dude.
Lol. Yeah I know I had to improvise. Plus it makes a great thumbnail. Lol
Don't splice into your existing wiring, it's not code compliant and its not safe. That wire could also have gone to anything in his own house including into another room never trust that a wire you see above your area goes to the existing light. It could lead to way more problems. Instead get someone that knows what they are doing to do the job. You don't want to deal with a house fire from improper wiring. Also boxes in these areas should always be secured otherwise they can cause issues.
The title literally says with no attic access yet you go into the attic? I'm a little confused
I didn’t physically go into attic, I just stuck my hand in there through the hole with my phone camera. Everything was done from the inside of the house with no attic access.
Next time use pex pipe to phish your line through.
That's a really good idea. I'll have to try that next time.
I'm looking for no attic access. Not helpful.
Sorry to hear that. I didn’t access my attic tho.
your abandoned your fan
Yeah it looks nice with out it.
You could have taken off the reel to make it a bit easier for yourself.
@@jkim5682 good point. Didn’t think of that at that time.
The product it’s already $104.99 ok Amazon. Damn
Yeah amazon prices tend to go up and down demanding on demand and season.
Evil Amazon sucks.
What do you mean?
@@Daddicated Google it. But to start their union busters. Just saying we need to stand with our brothers and sisters when there is not health care or retirement or safe working conditions or pollution created by a company the consumers should shop somewhere else. Thanks for asking. And good luck 👍
You will void any kind of home insurance with this kind of electric work.
Why?
@@OmarRodriguez-vl2tq Why?
The splicing you made inside the box is not at all to code. Buddy, you're not an electrician.
What did I miss that was not to code? Curious to learn.
Joist
Uh?
How did you get it over the other bays??? Never showed that part
What you other bays?
@@Daddicated I was trying to do an installation the other day and had trouble cause I couldn’t get to the other side and I even had a long extension bit. I also didn’t want to cut holes 🕳️
@@FeelBadForTheFuture Gotcha. I was able to use the fishing pool to get from one hole to the next and that worked for me. Not sure what you can do if you can't reach that far. You may have to cut another hole. Good luck and let me know what you ended up doing.
@@Daddicated Thank you brother I appreciate you
Such a bait video. There is attic space access
Yes but I didn’t have to access it.