There are things about this video I don’t like. Watch his two part documentary. Have him on the pod cast Joe. This kid was not forced to do this. This kid was obsessed with it. Pure nonsense. It was later in life when he wanted to go have fun and get some pussy. That’s when the parents turned….strict.
@@bobbowie9350I reckon they’d have a lot to talk about , it’s tiger woods for gods sake, joe literally says how he finds hitting a golf ball and technique behind it is fascinating , or did you not watch the clip ?
Literally had every shot, he could hit shots that only he could pull off. Tiger in his prime is one of the most dominant athletes in any sport ever, he was unbelievable
@@Dan-zq5wt I’ll never completely write him off until he officially retires, he is Tiger Woods after all. Maybe he’s still got a little magic left in him.
You can't really argue that. Late 90s/ early 2000's Tiger was unstoppable. If he could have kept playing without the drama and injuries, he would've beaten all of Jack Nicholas's records. We really never got to see what exactly he was capable of.
@@reggiesbush9699Quite positive that’s exactly what jsee just said? You can’t argue that he wasn’t better than anyone was at anything, because he was simply the best.
Tiger was as dominant in golf as anyone has ever been at a sport. But even Tiger only finished top 10 in 199 of 374 career events and won 82 times. Name any other sport where the undisputed greatest to ever play has a 20% win percentage. That's how crazy difficult professional golf is.
@@riverhound9649wrong with the PGA tour, all signature events with 20 million dollar purses are limited field events between 68 and 80 golfers and NO CUT
I watched him when he first turned pro in 96 @ the Australian Open. Took a six hour bus ride to go see him, then woke up at 4:30 to be first through the gates to watch him practice on the range @ around 7am. Him in person, the sound off the irons was like a shot gun. There were holes where he was easily 40 past the rest of the field. I was right next to him when he absolutely smoked a 2 iron over the top of the other 2 pros driver. Ball just kept floating until it was about 20 past when it landed. Everyone knew he was the real deal. We followed him for the weekend then followed Greg Norman as he finished. Was lucky that Fluff Cowan, his caddy at the time gave me a Titleist Professional 90 number 2. Still got it at home. Tiger dominated golf like no one has ever done before. He could hit shots from anywhere. The more you doubted him, the more he proved you wrong. He could execute the shot that was needed when he needed it most. His fierce determination on winning is what made him win when others couldn’t. His belief and highlight reel of shots will never be topped
My dad took me to see him play in person a couple times in the late 90s/early 2000s. And you are absolutely right about the sound of his irons! Driver, too… It was like a sonic boom… Immediately followed by the loudest crowd roar I’ve ever heard outside of the Chiefs arrowhead Stadium. So fking cool.
People feared Tiger. That was his biggest strength. He owned everyone’s mindset. Once all the craziness happened with the downward spiral, people don’t fear him anymore.
They thought that until he came back and dominated in early 2010's and won 1st fed ex cup......then more surgery , back fusion. JT said in an interview on the Golf Channel with Duval and Chamblee he wants to face Tiger at his best and blah blah. I think he'd recently just won '17 PGA, said we all do. Duval simply said, "No you don't, trust me you have no idea" he then won the Masters. I dont mind watching golf right now, scotty killing it, but plenty of very good players but there isn't one guy that could hold a candle to what he could do, not even close. Facts, phil is the closest, 9 less majors 35 less tournaments 50 including worldwide, vijay had a great year with 9 Ws. Obtw Tiger was in his first swing change, duval...maybe 1 and 1/2 YRS, Ernie...eh and Phil. It probably is the most dominant era of all sport...'99-'08. I live the 70s-80s guys, Watson is my favorite for ever but jack didn't play against these guys. Maybe top 10 then was better but 10-125 is nowhere near, 125 can win and does. #125 didn't win in Jack's day. Also he was a tweener, caught player and arnie when he was 10 years younger, got Watson and Seve at 10 Yrs older but in prime.
He was forced. Not in a bad way, like in a samari way where he was just destined for greatness. There was going to be no other path, it was just going to be golf
His father trained him to be a killer on the golf course, using military psyops training. That it so bad and his dad, had it worked out from day one. When he played in his first professional tournament as an amateur, he was swearing constantly, during in his rounds, while his father caddied for him and his father would drop him off at the golf course and then went off and had an affair! Seeing any kind of pattern here??
If a 2 year old showcased the hand eye coordination to hit a ball off a tee, then as the father it’s your duty to nurture that ability. That’s incredibly rare. I don’t blame Richard Williams, Jeffery Jordan, or Tiger Woods dad for how they raised their kids. They turned them into something great. Those roads are never easy.
I used to hate golf. Come home late on Sunday to watch the sports review on the news. And we after we would hear about something he accomplished on the golf course like another major or just another tournament. So one day I decided to actually watch him play. And there was just something about watching him dominate the tournament. It was so majestic. I never once watched a golf tournament yet I was a glue to watching him play throughout the day. I watch golf more than any other sport when he plays.
Yo Jo, just get Tiger Woods on your show man!!! It will be 1 epic and long show because Tiger is 1 of the greatest ATHLETES EVER. And you will be stunned at his mental toughness. He is simply incredible.
Tigers’ course management and mental game was so far beyond his time and even beyond today’s time that it allowed the skill he had to come out more commonly than other competitors. The skill level is very similar but how you handle pressure is what determines how much of that skill comes out in competition. A word of advice to any extremely competitive golfers out there; meditate every day, give 110% effort to every shot and play conservatively on your approach shots
Tiger did something no other golfer has ever done other than his professional accomplishments. He won three straight US Jr Amateur’s and three straight US Amateur’s. Six years in a row undefeated as an amateur.
It’s not even that, it’s the fact that Scottie Scheffler has been ranked #1 for like 75 total weeks. To catch Tiger's record of total weeks at #1... ...Scheffler would need to hold the top spot, CONTINOUSLY, until October 21, 2035.
As a guy who worked in the golf industry and is a huge nerd, I really really want tiger in this podcast. Joe has no idea the extent of crazy that Tiger is. Tiger is Kobe. The two craziest competitors I’ve witnessed in my 35 years. Crazier than Jordan. And I’m not Fn around, Kobe and tiger took what Jordan did and went even harder. Brady is possibly in this category as well. Pure Psychopaths
@@newnoggin2 I think a lot of people just don't know that. His knee and back injuries are largely self inflicted from things other than golf, which is a shame. Apparently, he got obsessed with Navy Seal style training. His dad was a Green Beret, so that type of mindset was obviously passed down to him. I'm sure he thought it would make him "tougher", but I think it only succeeded in screwing up his body. If he hadn't gotten sidetracked with that stuff and of course his 2010 "domestic issues", he would have won 100 tournaments and over 20 majors without breaking a sweat. He's the best of all time, better than Nicklaus, I don't care if Nickalus has 3 more majors.
Jaimie puts a video up of Tiger making an ace on 16 at the WM, Joe: eh Jaimie then shows a modern day video of 16 at the WM. Joe: would ya look at it?? Jaimie (as Pam on the office): they're the same picture 😅
Glad I didn't have to be the one to type that comment... Any golf fan was looking at that moment like, um that's the same exact hole, just like 20 years apart lol
@@stuartstogdill2406 sure, but the atmosphere has always been the same. drinking, yelling, just not following the normal etiquette of golf. it's just on a larger more grand scale now...
I would say he was guided. There becomes a point where it doesn’t matter how much your father makes you golf if you don’t have that love and passion for it you would never make it to that elite level. You truly have to desire it and love the process of achieving that level
What most people don’t understand is how incredibly difficult golf is to do at a high level for so long is amazing, it’s has to be one of the most challenging activities to do well nothing comes close
People always talk about how far etc he would hit the ball. It's his short game that is pretty legendary! I don't ever remember him missing a clutch putt when he had to make it.
I saw a stat recently - and I could be wrong but the sentiment is true - in one year, Tiger shot a combined 125-under in tournaments. The next best score was something like 125-over for the year.
Yeah the stat is that his combined score under par in majors from 1997-2013 was -126 and the closest person to him was +125 so he was 251 strokes better than the next person. It makes it more impressive because anyone can be hot for 1 year but to be locked in like that over a 17 year stretch is ridiculous🤯
Check out how Pete marraviches dad started him playing basketball, it's wild, he played basketball a little every day like he was having the most fun in the world and wouldn't allow Pete to touch the ball or play so he would sneak in some playing
They did a study and when Tiger entered an event, the other players shot a stroke worse than what they averaged on the same courses without him. He wasn’t only dominant, he affected his opponents because they had to be perfect to beat him and they still might not.
Casual fans just can't grasp his putting gift, it's unheard of for a ballstriker like Tiger to also be the best putter in the game. It will never happen again
@@poocrayon4588even if Jack is the goat he was never BOTH the best ball striker and putter at the same time. It will never ever happen again on any tour
@@Kevin-qy9wf During the 70's he was the best long driver, long iron player and best putter. Watch some winning tounaments, you'll see. Tiger is great too, perhaps golfs most mecurial talent ever (at least since the TV era) had he won more Majors he would be the goat - but as he didn't and as they're both so great, that makes Jack the best (especially as it was Tigers goal to pass him).
@@poocrayon4588 not sure what you’re trying to argue, my point is unequivocally true that nobody will ever lead the tour in ball-striking and putting the way Tiger did. Nothing to do with total majors
I could be wrong, but I believe Tiger brought Physical Conditioning development into the forefront in the sport. I remember how his body changed from a teen to a physically defined athlete. This led to increased distance to his game, this added to his natural ability to shape shots and be consistently accurate made him the GOAT on his era. Thanks to his conditioning he has been able to continue playing even after his vehicle accident. Even today, when you compare the numbers to great players of the current era like Scottie Scheffler, Rory, Brooks, Hovland, and so many others, you realize what an amazing player Tiger Woods was.
Golf is such a mental gauntlet even when you play alone, and when you add people to the mix it just multiplies. Even just a few people standing around the first tee can be stressful for the average golfer. Tiger’s ability to mentally lock it in when he gets on the course is why he holds so many ridiculous records that will probably never be broken. 🐐
Tiger hitting a ball in the early 2000's sounded like a car accident. It was incredible. One of my favourite things it looking through Tiger stats, like the # of weeks at world #1. 281 weeks consecutive... 5.5 years at #1, and 683 weeks total... thats just over 13 years ranked #1 in a highly competetive individual sport. It doesn't even seem real.
It’s funny that Jamie pulled up a video of tiger hitting a hole in one on hole 16 at the Waste Management when Joe was asking for that exact thing (albeit years later when the stadium was built$
"to get that good at anything is so rare" ESPECIALYL IN GOLF. A single player sport that is so technical that if you're off by a fraction of an angle on your club. You could be in so much trouble. The focus, the pressure, the composure you need.
In terms of difficulty, golf is right up there. So many elements are out of your control. Its not like Tennis where the No1 player on most tournaments will mostly breeze through the early rounds, in a vastly more controlled environment. Holding all 4 major championships at the same time in modern golf, is something that I would bet money on will never happen again. Thats how hard it is. and thats how good Tiger was at his peak.
As with most prodigies, they surely sacrifice their childhood for their craft, but because of their age, they don't truly understand why, they didn't really have a choice in the matter.. but tiger has done a great job with his son Charlie by letting HIM choose what he wants to do and he supports Charlie's decision 1000%
Phil Mickelson was one of the greatest players of all time. Would have been the number one player in many other Eras. Hes an afterthought thats how good Tiger was.
There are some misnomers here. Tiger has always said that he was the one that wanted to golf. He has constantly shut down any allegations of his dad pushing golf on him. Tiger did make a decision at a fairly young age that he wanted to be the best and his dad helped him be accountable as far as understanding the magnitude of work that it would take. He never forced tiger to do that work against his will.
Tiger's back issues, while his swing have a lot to do with it, he was playing weekend solider with the Navy Seals in San Diego back in the mid 2000s. The log hauling fucked his back up.
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Speaking of rowdy crowds and cutting off the alcohol, I was watching the WM tournament and during the coverage you could hear the crowd in the distance chanting FJB, FJB FJB!!! It was awesome...i was really surprised the network didn't catch it and dub it out
Tiger actually became obsessed with lifting weights and navy seal training. Golf is more about extreme flexibility than growing big muscles. He ruined his body by becoming too strong and then expecting tight huge muscles to still be able to flex for the golf swing. If you watch any golfers exercise routine now it's more about flexibility and using your body weight. Not bench pressing 450 pounds and squatting 750 pounds.
Didn't Bryson take that approach and become one of the fastest players in the world and shoot 58 a couple weeks ago? Seems like heavy weights still work...
@@bornontilt748 Nope, he did an interview recently saying that was a dumb experiment. He injured himself lifting too much weight. He has lost about 40 pounds and when he did that and worked on flexibility is when he game came back and shot 58. If you notice since his win at the US open he didn't win anything else cause that's when he started bulking and hitting the weights like crazy.
@@Micker375 Yes you are right. Absolutely the best golfer ever. If he didn't have all his injuries though he could have dominated for many years more and beat Jack's record. He hasn't been healthy since 2008 when his knee went bad and then needed his back fused. His body was done by the age of 32 because of his workout routine.
I don't care what anyone says about major championship counts, Tiger Woods is the greatest golfer in history. Jack was a greater golfer than everyone in his time... by a small margin. Tiger was playing an entirely different game in his prime, and even not in his prime, he still won a U.S. Open on a completely busted knee through five rounds. Then he came back and won another major after a dozen surgeries and injuries, plus a playoff title. At his best, Tiger was the most talented and dominant golfer ever. As a heavily injured and carved up player, he still won multiple majors and other tournaments. Golf is the hardest game ever devised, and Tiger at his peak destroyed the best players in the game as a regular habit. He dominated at every venue, every setting of golf, from harsh U.S. Opens, sun-dried British Opens, record-setting Masters performances, and a slew of records in between. He is the most clutch putter to ever live. He had a magician's short game, an assassin's iron play, and, on his good days, elite driving. He was the best at nearly everything every day... for years.
The Phoenix Open 16th hole has about 15-20k on that hole alone which is like an NBA arena and the “fans” are mostly drunken a-holes. For years the Thunderbirds who manage the tournament have played up this rowdy atmosphere until this year when it got out of hand more than other years, but it’s always been a freak show that is anathema to golf.
I once heard Bobby Orr say he didn’t believe in forcing kids into sports. Coming from him, I’d say it’s worth listening to! Also Tiger has said his Father didn’t force him. If anything his Mother was the tough one
There are rumors or indications that Tiger and Michael Jackson had the same level of push from their dad. While I have never heard anywhere that Earl would get physical or demean Tiger, the level of pacing or pro-activeness in getting him better and ready for the world stage was about the same albeit they went about it differently, but similarly they both focused on making their child into the best and biggest star in their field. And they did... so too with Mozart. His dad also did everything he could to facilitate Wolfgang becoming arguably the greatest composer ever. Mozart might have had genius level intellect which would help, but composing full music at age 5 takes a crazy amount of practice, education and training and Mozart had that through his dad and others... So there are similarities between them! Chief among them being that they all rose unparalleled to the very pinnacle of their chosen profession!!
The dude reinvented himself several times. Changed his swing completely like 3x. Most of us can't perfect 1 swing. They're will never be another tiger. Ever.
In his prime 2000-05 Tiger almost always came through with the pressure shot or putt. Lots of good pro golfers were maybe 40% successful with a pressure shot. In his prime he had something like 35% winning percentage. Crazy, will never be done again.
It's well documented that Tiger gravitated to golf by watching his dad who would take him to the course (and his dad is rumored to have had affairs at the golf course - so not dad of the year for sure). As a young child, all Tiger wanted to do was play golf, but as he moved into his teens, there were times he wanted to just be a kid. By this stage in his development, so much had been invested, and he was winning big amateur events, that he likely also felt pressured to please his father (and mother). The question I suppose is did he devote so much of his time to golf for himself or for his family - a bit of both perhaps.
Tiger Woods was better at golf than any athlete was at their sport, ever. He easily came the closest to perfecting golf than any human that has ever walked Earth. One has to understand how difficult golf is to "master" to fathom how good he was. I feel safe saying his peak is the highest anyone will ever reach in golf for eternity. and that sounds crazy but its actually not a wild statement
Tiger has amazing athleticism and is a great inspiration to me but tbh as a scratch golfer stopping a swing isn’t that difficult and lots of other good golfers agree
Tiger would wake up run 5 miles, workout, then driving range for 2 to 3 hours play 18-36 holes run 5 miles rinse and repeat for 10 years.. not only was he a natural athlete but he was bred for it and he loved it
Think of it like this. He has a streak of 281 weeks at #1 in the world with 683 weeks at #1 total. Out of all the stats Tiger has, I don't think anyone will EVER beat that. Insane stat. Number #2 on that list has half that. #3 has half of #2. The greatest golfer to ever live.
Tiger did not mess up his body playing golf, he messed up his body doing mock Navy Seal training. He would have crushed all the records if that didn't happen.
I think tiger on Joe Rogan would break the internet.
It would be a 10 min podcast with joe. Not a joetopic
There are things about this video I don’t like.
Watch his two part documentary. Have him on the pod cast Joe. This kid was not forced to do this. This kid was obsessed with it. Pure nonsense. It was later in life when he wanted to go have fun and get some pussy. That’s when the parents turned….strict.
Fuck yes!!! Can someone tell Jamie and Joe the tiger woods hole in one was actually 16 at the waste management before the stadium
I’d rather see Tiger on Club Shay Shay.
@@bobbowie9350I reckon they’d have a lot to talk about , it’s tiger woods for gods sake, joe literally says how he finds hitting a golf ball and technique behind it is fascinating , or did you not watch the clip ?
It’s not just his power - lots of guys have that - it’s his pinpoint iron accuracy, creativity, touch, short game etc. Tiger had it all
Literally had every shot, he could hit shots that only he could pull off. Tiger in his prime is one of the most dominant athletes in any sport ever, he was unbelievable
@@Whatdoyouwant904 we still all hope he can come back, but clearly it’s over.
@@Dan-zq5wt I’ll never completely write him off until he officially retires, he is Tiger Woods after all. Maybe he’s still got a little magic left in him.
@@Whatdoyouwant904 I hope so!
Up and down from literally everywhere
At one point Tiger woods with a golf club in his hand was better than anyone was at anything.
You can't really argue that. Late 90s/ early 2000's Tiger was unstoppable. If he could have kept playing without the drama and injuries, he would've beaten all of Jack Nicholas's records. We really never got to see what exactly he was capable of.
@@jsee2385you can absolutely argue it. Tiger was more dominant than jack in their peaks
@@reggiesbush9699Quite positive that’s exactly what jsee just said? You can’t argue that he wasn’t better than anyone was at anything, because he was simply the best.
Tiger was as dominant in golf as anyone has ever been at a sport. But even Tiger only finished top 10 in 199 of 374 career events and won 82 times. Name any other sport where the undisputed greatest to ever play has a 20% win percentage. That's how crazy difficult professional golf is.
@@zaycomage6888 my bad I misunderstood you tbh
Tigers cuts made record will never be broken
Gonna be pretty hard when half the events don't have cuts anymore
@@state1724 with LIV you mean
@@riverhound9649wrong with the PGA tour, all signature events with 20 million dollar purses are limited field events between 68 and 80 golfers and NO CUT
@@anthonyr3800 damn I didn't know
@@anthonyr3800lol that’s only for senior cuts u know nothing about golf.
I love how they are talking about the WM and the first video of Tiger's hole-in-one is on 16 of the WM.
And i dont think they realized it
Isnt that hole in one his first year pro too
I watched him when he first turned pro in 96 @ the Australian Open. Took a six hour bus ride to go see him, then woke up at 4:30 to be first through the gates to watch him practice on the range @ around 7am. Him in person, the sound off the irons was like a shot gun. There were holes where he was easily 40 past the rest of the field. I was right next to him when he absolutely smoked a 2 iron over the top of the other 2 pros driver. Ball just kept floating until it was about 20 past when it landed. Everyone knew he was the real deal. We followed him for the weekend then followed Greg Norman as he finished. Was lucky that Fluff Cowan, his caddy at the time gave me a Titleist Professional 90 number 2. Still got it at home. Tiger dominated golf like no one has ever done before. He could hit shots from anywhere. The more you doubted him, the more he proved you wrong. He could execute the shot that was needed when he needed it most. His fierce determination on winning is what made him win when others couldn’t. His belief and highlight reel of shots will never be topped
My dad took me to see him play in person a couple times in the late 90s/early 2000s. And you are absolutely right about the sound of his irons! Driver, too… It was like a sonic boom… Immediately followed by the loudest crowd roar I’ve ever heard outside of the Chiefs arrowhead Stadium. So fking cool.
Awesome!
Yup. Saw him at the PGA championship in like 2010 and will never forget it. Nobody hits the ball like prime tiger
Tiger gave Golf some much needed swag.
Golf already had swag you couldn’t see it!🫢 shark, walrus, 🐻, etc
People feared Tiger. That was his biggest strength. He owned everyone’s mindset. Once all the craziness happened with the downward spiral, people don’t fear him anymore.
What about the 2019 masters win?
You’re a fool😂❤ golf 2024 hasn’t caught up with tiger woods !
They thought that until he came back and dominated in early 2010's and won 1st fed ex cup......then more surgery , back fusion. JT said in an interview on the Golf Channel with Duval and Chamblee he wants to face Tiger at his best and blah blah. I think he'd recently just won '17 PGA, said we all do. Duval simply said, "No you don't, trust me you have no idea" he then won the Masters. I dont mind watching golf right now, scotty killing it, but plenty of very good players but there isn't one guy that could hold a candle to what he could do, not even close. Facts, phil is the closest, 9 less majors 35 less tournaments 50 including worldwide, vijay had a great year with 9 Ws. Obtw Tiger was in his first swing change, duval...maybe 1 and 1/2 YRS, Ernie...eh and Phil. It probably is the most dominant era of all sport...'99-'08. I live the 70s-80s guys, Watson is my favorite for ever but jack didn't play against these guys. Maybe top 10 then was better but 10-125 is nowhere near, 125 can win and does. #125 didn't win in Jack's day. Also he was a tweener, caught player and arnie when he was 10 years younger, got Watson and Seve at 10
Yrs older but in prime.
@@micahwood1999 He only won because the eye talian guy crapped the bed
I love how much Young Jamie loves the game. He can really play too.
No way was Tiger forced. The addiction to that game is real, I started chasing it at 12 and I’m still loving it at 56.
He was forced. Not in a bad way, like in a samari way where he was just destined for greatness. There was going to be no other path, it was just going to be golf
Bro, 3 year olds aren’t addicted to golf. He was absolutely forced by his dad, but I suppose it all worked out in the end.
His father trained him to be a killer on the golf course, using military psyops training. That it so bad and his dad, had it worked out from day one. When he played in his first professional tournament as an amateur, he was swearing constantly, during in his rounds, while his father caddied for him and his father would drop him off at the golf course and then went off and had an affair! Seeing any kind of pattern here??
@golfinguru11 Little boys want to do what their Dad is doing. He chose the game. He was not forced.
Watch the documentary and you'll see how it happened
If a 2 year old showcased the hand eye coordination to hit a ball off a tee, then as the father it’s your duty to nurture that ability. That’s incredibly rare. I don’t blame Richard Williams, Jeffery Jordan, or Tiger Woods dad for how they raised their kids. They turned them into something great. Those roads are never easy.
wish my dad pushed me harder when I was younger,he got me into golf at 18 months old
Tiger wanted to swing those, clubs. He loved playing with his dad as a child, he's said it hundreds of times.
@@zxclify silly it’s not a push it’s a natural unnatural ability unlike waking or taking 🤣🤔🫢🥰
I used to hate golf. Come home late on Sunday to watch the sports review on the news. And we after we would hear about something he accomplished on the golf course like another major or just another tournament. So one day I decided to actually watch him play. And there was just something about watching him dominate the tournament. It was so majestic. I never once watched a golf tournament yet I was a glue to watching him play throughout the day. I watch golf more than any other sport when he plays.
Petition to have tiger woods on the podcast
Yo Jo, just get Tiger Woods on your show man!!! It will be 1 epic and long show because Tiger is 1 of the greatest ATHLETES EVER. And you will be stunned at his mental toughness. He is simply incredible.
This is why I love JR. His animation trying to explained something lol.
They should've showed Tiger doing the long drive vs John Daly.
WHY? TIGERS WON 82 AND 15 COMPARED TO DALYS HOW MANY?
He means to display the power of Tigers swing on the podcast. Not to compare Tiger & Johns achievements..@@AlastairBarker
Tigers’ course management and mental game was so far beyond his time and even beyond today’s time that it allowed the skill he had to come out more commonly than other competitors. The skill level is very similar but how you handle pressure is what determines how much of that skill comes out in competition. A word of advice to any extremely competitive golfers out there; meditate every day, give 110% effort to every shot and play conservatively on your approach shots
Id have better course management if I could hit it wherever I wanted 😄
It was a gift to be alive at the same time as Tigers dominance.
Tiger did something no other golfer has ever done other than his professional accomplishments. He won three straight US Jr Amateur’s and three straight US Amateur’s. Six years in a row undefeated as an amateur.
It’s not even that, it’s the fact that Scottie Scheffler has been ranked #1 for like 75 total weeks.
To catch Tiger's record of total weeks at #1...
...Scheffler would need to hold the top spot, CONTINOUSLY, until October 21, 2035.
And he shagged his way round the world
I remember a betting line where Tiger was an even money bet against the field at a Major! That's how good Tiger was!
❤💯
During the height of his career, most bets placed were Tiger or the field in every event he played.
As a guy who worked in the golf industry and is a huge nerd, I really really want tiger in this podcast.
Joe has no idea the extent of crazy that Tiger is. Tiger is Kobe. The two craziest competitors I’ve witnessed in my 35 years. Crazier than Jordan. And I’m not Fn around, Kobe and tiger took what Jordan did and went even harder. Brady is possibly in this category as well. Pure Psychopaths
Both of them paid for it with their bodies too.
Peds
I want Joe to pick up golf, and then have him on.
hes too jacked for golf@tubopedia
There is no such thing as too jacked for amateur golf@@zxclify . If you can benchpress and squat you can play golf with your friends.
Arguably one of the few humans in history who was better at his thing more than anyone else was good at anything lol
The stat that he won more majors in one year than the amount of people that beat him in all the tournaments he played that year, is fucking insane.
Tiger didn’t mess up his body because of torque he messed up his body because he did navy seal training and ran like 20 miles a day.
Great point! People forget that.
Probably a combination
Partly
His shitty swing did a lot
@@newnoggin2 I think a lot of people just don't know that. His knee and back injuries are largely self inflicted from things other than golf, which is a shame. Apparently, he got obsessed with Navy Seal style training. His dad was a Green Beret, so that type of mindset was obviously passed down to him. I'm sure he thought it would make him "tougher", but I think it only succeeded in screwing up his body. If he hadn't gotten sidetracked with that stuff and of course his 2010 "domestic issues", he would have won 100 tournaments and over 20 majors without breaking a sweat. He's the best of all time, better than Nicklaus, I don't care if Nickalus has 3 more majors.
Jaimie puts a video up of Tiger making an ace on 16 at the WM, Joe: eh
Jaimie then shows a modern day video of 16 at the WM. Joe: would ya look at it??
Jaimie (as Pam on the office): they're the same picture 😅
Glad I didn't have to be the one to type that comment... Any golf fan was looking at that moment like, um that's the same exact hole, just like 20 years apart lol
They currently have far more seats and larger grandstands at the WM than when Tiger hit that ace.
@@stuartstogdill2406 sure, but the atmosphere has always been the same. drinking, yelling, just not following the normal etiquette of golf. it's just on a larger more grand scale now...
I would say he was guided. There becomes a point where it doesn’t matter how much your father makes you golf if you don’t have that love and passion for it you would never make it to that elite level. You truly have to desire it and love the process of achieving that level
What most people don’t understand is how incredibly difficult golf is to do at a high level for so long is amazing, it’s has to be one of the most challenging activities to do well nothing comes close
I highly recommend the HBO 2 part show on Tiger. It's excellent!!!
Joe you gotta watch the one where he outdrives a guy on his knees
I don’t typically say this in sports as I know anything is possible but I don’t think golf will ever see anything like him again.
Ronnie O'Sullivan. The greatest snooker player of all time. He's still winning tournaments after 30 years of competing
And? What does that have to do with Tiger?
People always talk about how far etc he would hit the ball. It's his short game that is pretty legendary! I don't ever remember him missing a clutch putt when he had to make it.
I saw a stat recently - and I could be wrong but the sentiment is true - in one year, Tiger shot a combined 125-under in tournaments. The next best score was something like 125-over for the year.
Yeah the stat is that his combined score under par in majors from 1997-2013 was -126 and the closest person to him was +125 so he was 251 strokes better than the next person. It makes it more impressive because anyone can be hot for 1 year but to be locked in like that over a 17 year stretch is ridiculous🤯
@@garydepena2332 Thanks very much for that! I couldn’t find that anywhere after hearing it. Brilliant stuff. It is a mind boggling stat.
Check out how Pete marraviches dad started him playing basketball, it's wild, he played basketball a little every day like he was having the most fun in the world and wouldn't allow Pete to touch the ball or play so he would sneak in some playing
Tiger was so good, i knew him as a kid even though i didnt know a single thing about golf, unprecedented kind of impact.
They did a study and when Tiger entered an event, the other players shot a stroke worse than what they averaged on the same courses without him. He wasn’t only dominant, he affected his opponents because they had to be perfect to beat him and they still might not.
Casual fans just can't grasp his putting gift, it's unheard of for a ballstriker like Tiger to also be the best putter in the game. It will never happen again
Yeah except Nicklaus was the best Putter and one of the best long ball hitters of his day as well so actually it's not.
@@poocrayon4588even if Jack is the goat he was never BOTH the best ball striker and putter at the same time. It will never ever happen again on any tour
@@Kevin-qy9wf During the 70's he was the best long driver, long iron player and best putter. Watch some winning tounaments, you'll see. Tiger is great too, perhaps golfs most mecurial talent ever (at least since the TV era) had he won more Majors he would be the goat - but as he didn't and as they're both so great, that makes Jack the best (especially as it was Tigers goal to pass him).
@@poocrayon4588 not sure what you’re trying to argue, my point is unequivocally true that nobody will ever lead the tour in ball-striking and putting the way Tiger did. Nothing to do with total majors
Still waiting for Jamie to show Joe a swing of Tiger hitting a big drive.
While sitting on a grizzly bear
I could be wrong, but I believe Tiger brought Physical Conditioning development into the forefront in the sport. I remember how his body changed from a teen to a physically defined athlete. This led to increased distance to his game, this added to his natural ability to shape shots and be consistently accurate made him the GOAT on his era. Thanks to his conditioning he has been able to continue playing even after his vehicle accident.
Even today, when you compare the numbers to great players of the current era like Scottie Scheffler, Rory, Brooks, Hovland, and so many others, you realize what an amazing player Tiger Woods was.
Tiger woods had a very violent swing, it's just one of those things.
Golf is such a mental gauntlet even when you play alone, and when you add people to the mix it just multiplies. Even just a few people standing around the first tee can be stressful for the average golfer. Tiger’s ability to mentally lock it in when he gets on the course is why he holds so many ridiculous records that will probably never be broken. 🐐
Tiger hitting a ball in the early 2000's sounded like a car accident. It was incredible. One of my favourite things it looking through Tiger stats, like the # of weeks at world #1. 281 weeks consecutive... 5.5 years at #1, and 683 weeks total... thats just over 13 years ranked #1 in a highly competetive individual sport. It doesn't even seem real.
He putted lights out
Someone in the podcast said it's Augusta where people are following Tiger down the fairway. It was not Augusta lol
East Lake - Atlanta. Tour Championship.
He also said “This is the last time he won a big event or something” lol. Then goes on to win the Masters a few months later.
It’s funny that Jamie pulled up a video of tiger hitting a hole in one on hole 16 at the Waste Management when Joe was asking for that exact thing (albeit years later when the stadium was built$
Jamie pull up the video of that Bear and Tiger Woods playing a 2 man scramble.
that one hole in one they showed from like the 96' phoenix open was the impetus for the 16th hole arena they construct every year there
"to get that good at anything is so rare" ESPECIALYL IN GOLF. A single player sport that is so technical that if you're off by a fraction of an angle on your club. You could be in so much trouble. The focus, the pressure, the composure you need.
It’s been over 15 years since prime Tiger and I’m still convinced we may never see anything like it or if we do we still have many years.
In terms of difficulty, golf is right up there. So many elements are out of your control. Its not like Tennis where the No1 player on most tournaments will mostly breeze through the early rounds, in a vastly more controlled environment. Holding all 4 major championships at the same time in modern golf, is something that I would bet money on will never happen again. Thats how hard it is. and thats how good Tiger was at his peak.
Tiger was getting jacked for the 🐱 not the ⛳️ different holes. 😂
If he didn't get caught with everything...wouldve easily won more Majors.
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@@benlopez9595but he did so he blew it
A hour interview with tiger would net you another million subscribers easy!
As with most prodigies, they surely sacrifice their childhood for their craft, but because of their age, they don't truly understand why, they didn't really have a choice in the matter.. but tiger has done a great job with his son Charlie by letting HIM choose what he wants to do and he supports Charlie's decision 1000%
Phil Mickelson was one of the greatest players of all time. Would have been the number one player in many other Eras. Hes an afterthought thats how good Tiger was.
He’s the best of alll time
Tiger needs to be on Rogan!
Another good example of repetitive torque is MLB pitchers. Throwing the ball as hard as you can 100+ times an outing. Insane.
There are some misnomers here. Tiger has always said that he was the one that wanted to golf. He has constantly shut down any allegations of his dad pushing golf on him. Tiger did make a decision at a fairly young age that he wanted to be the best and his dad helped him be accountable as far as understanding the magnitude of work that it would take. He never forced tiger to do that work against his will.
They say when he was playing. They were playing for second. Once he gets the lead. It’s over.
As a lifelong tennis player who has heard soooo many people shit on tennis players as athletes, I’m glad he gave us some flowers
Sam talking out of his ass, Tiger wanted it.
Tiger Woods dominance is hard to explain, he has records that cannot be broken. His dominance in every aspect of the game was crazy.
Nicklaus has the most important record and the one Woods wanted most. And he'll never break it.
How has Tiger NOT been on the Joe Rogan show??
Golf is hard as hell, thats why you see people slamming their clubs all the time 😂😂
Jamie knows his golf. Props.
Well he said it was Augusta but it wasn’t.
@@justinbarraza7322 ye and made a few other mistakes too
Tiger's back issues, while his swing have a lot to do with it, he was playing weekend solider with the Navy Seals in San Diego back in the mid 2000s. The log hauling fucked his back up.
Speaking of rowdy crowds and cutting off the alcohol, I was watching the WM tournament and during the coverage you could hear the crowd in the distance chanting FJB, FJB FJB!!!
It was awesome...i was really surprised the network didn't catch it and dub it out
Tiger actually became obsessed with lifting weights and navy seal training. Golf is more about extreme flexibility than growing big muscles. He ruined his body by becoming too strong and then expecting tight huge muscles to still be able to flex for the golf swing. If you watch any golfers exercise routine now it's more about flexibility and using your body weight. Not bench pressing 450 pounds and squatting 750 pounds.
Didn't Bryson take that approach and become one of the fastest players in the world and shoot 58 a couple weeks ago? Seems like heavy weights still work...
@@bornontilt748 Nope, he did an interview recently saying that was a dumb experiment. He injured himself lifting too much weight. He has lost about 40 pounds and when he did that and worked on flexibility is when he game came back and shot 58. If you notice since his win at the US open he didn't win anything else cause that's when he started bulking and hitting the weights like crazy.
The dude won 15 majors… and has played the best golf ever. Can’t say he did it wrong.
@@Micker375 Yes you are right. Absolutely the best golfer ever. If he didn't have all his injuries though he could have dominated for many years more and beat Jack's record. He hasn't been healthy since 2008 when his knee went bad and then needed his back fused. His body was done by the age of 32 because of his workout routine.
Agree like Trevino once said did you ever see a fat player have back problems
I don't care what anyone says about major championship counts, Tiger Woods is the greatest golfer in history. Jack was a greater golfer than everyone in his time... by a small margin. Tiger was playing an entirely different game in his prime, and even not in his prime, he still won a U.S. Open on a completely busted knee through five rounds. Then he came back and won another major after a dozen surgeries and injuries, plus a playoff title. At his best, Tiger was the most talented and dominant golfer ever. As a heavily injured and carved up player, he still won multiple majors and other tournaments.
Golf is the hardest game ever devised, and Tiger at his peak destroyed the best players in the game as a regular habit. He dominated at every venue, every setting of golf, from harsh U.S. Opens, sun-dried British Opens, record-setting Masters performances, and a slew of records in between. He is the most clutch putter to ever live. He had a magician's short game, an assassin's iron play, and, on his good days, elite driving. He was the best at nearly everything every day... for years.
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Johnnie Miller said it the first time he saw Tiger swing... he said his back isn't going to last with such a violent swing
Comments from his opponents and people who don't play golf ⛳ are so different. Hate and love
Need a tiger woods joe rogan pod asap
The Phoenix Open 16th hole has about 15-20k on that hole alone which is like an NBA arena and the “fans” are mostly drunken a-holes. For years the Thunderbirds who manage the tournament have played up this rowdy atmosphere until this year when it got out of hand more than other years, but it’s always been a freak show that is anathema to golf.
Tiger had a swing that definitely effected his back.
Tiger woods was the Mike tyson MJ 23 of Golf 😅 that dude us a crazy competition
I once heard Bobby Orr say he didn’t believe in forcing kids into sports. Coming from him, I’d say it’s worth listening to! Also Tiger has said his Father didn’t force him. If anything his Mother was the tough one
Jamie, bring up that clip of Tiger out driving a grizzly bear
There are rumors or indications that Tiger and Michael Jackson had the same level of push from their dad. While I have never heard anywhere that Earl would get physical or demean Tiger, the level of pacing or pro-activeness in getting him better and ready for the world stage was about the same albeit they went about it differently, but similarly they both focused on making their child into the best and biggest star in their field. And they did... so too with Mozart. His dad also did everything he could to facilitate Wolfgang becoming arguably the greatest composer ever. Mozart might have had genius level intellect which would help, but composing full music at age 5 takes a crazy amount of practice, education and training and Mozart had that through his dad and others... So there are similarities between them! Chief among them being that they all rose unparalleled to the very pinnacle of their chosen profession!!
I hope that tournament that they stopped selling alcohol wasn't the Phoenix Open lol.
The best we will ever see
You’d think the fact that tiger would win by huge margins in some of the biggest tournaments would’ve come up
Jaime thinks that footage from the '18 Tour Championship was from The Masters?
The dude reinvented himself several times. Changed his swing completely like 3x. Most of us can't perfect 1 swing. They're will never be another tiger. Ever.
Possibly the greatest athlete of all time
Tiger’s the top athlete of all time in any field and his dominance was something insurmountable to anything else, that’s a fact!
Dang it I had stuff to do today I wasn’t planning on watching the Tiger HBO doc for the 4 time. Oh well. Let’s do this
In his prime 2000-05 Tiger almost always came through with the pressure shot or putt. Lots of good pro golfers were maybe 40% successful with a pressure shot. In his prime he had something like 35% winning percentage. Crazy, will never be done again.
It's well documented that Tiger gravitated to golf by watching his dad who would take him to the course (and his dad is rumored to have had affairs at the golf course - so not dad of the year for sure). As a young child, all Tiger wanted to do was play golf, but as he moved into his teens, there were times he wanted to just be a kid. By this stage in his development, so much had been invested, and he was winning big amateur events, that he likely also felt pressured to please his father (and mother). The question I suppose is did he devote so much of his time to golf for himself or for his family - a bit of both perhaps.
Tiger Woods was better at golf than any athlete was at their sport, ever. He easily came the closest to perfecting golf than any human that has ever walked Earth. One has to understand how difficult golf is to "master" to fathom how good he was. I feel safe saying his peak is the highest anyone will ever reach in golf for eternity. and that sounds crazy but its actually not a wild statement
I wish my dad made me practice my golf swing when I was 2
It’s been shown over and over that most dominant athletes didn’t have their sport jammed down their throats
Tiger has amazing athleticism and is a great inspiration to me but tbh as a scratch golfer stopping a swing isn’t that difficult and lots of other good golfers agree
Tiger would wake up run 5 miles, workout, then driving range for 2 to 3 hours play 18-36 holes run 5 miles rinse and repeat for 10 years.. not only was he a natural athlete but he was bred for it and he loved it
I like how people don’t think golfers get chirped
Ricky Carmichael was another athlete on a whole other level. 15 AMA championships.
Think of it like this. He has a streak of 281 weeks at #1 in the world with 683 weeks at #1 total. Out of all the stats Tiger has, I don't think anyone will EVER beat that. Insane stat. Number #2 on that list has half that. #3 has half of #2. The greatest golfer to ever live.
Plz have Tiger on your show
Tiger did not mess up his body playing golf, he messed up his body doing mock Navy Seal training. He would have crushed all the records if that didn't happen.
Very good. Next question.