When we were stationed at Ingleside, TX, I reported a large group I witnessed huddled around a desk watching child r*pe porn. I had listened to enough of their vile remarks to know they didn't just stumble on it and were going to report it. I was told they would be dealt with. Two years later, I learned two of the men earned promotions to the next rank and the others were either still stationed there or moved to another duty station. The person I reported them to was part of their CP ring. Six years later, we were in Groton, CT. Here we go again ... more underage and child s*xual abuse, including materials and active physical abuse on children and underage girls. The command didn't play games there. Several men and one woman were arrested and everything they touched was taken into evidence. Families were questioned and there was even a sweep of their neighborhoods to question neighbors and children. Big difference between locations.
The sad part is multiple of the marines arrested were demoted and ran through the legal system because their command insisted they knew about everything going on despite zero evidence. One of the marines I knew. He was arrested because his roommate was involved and first sergeant was 100% certain he had to know something. He knew nothing. They wasted his time for years and caused a good marine to leave the corps. EDIT: for those asking, it was released everything that happened after the investigation. Marine Corps was forced to drop many of the charges due to illegal handling of the investigation on the Marine Corps' side. But, those who were actually guilty and participated in the crimes were dealt with by both law enforcement and the Marine Corps and got what they deserved. No, they were not trafficking children for sex slavery. They were trafficking weapons, drugs, and families across the border. And yes, it is possible to have a roommate for an extended period of time and not know wtf they do after work. Everyone has their own personal life.
Oh but forcing everyone in the military to take an untested and experimental government vaccine or else you’re kicked out of the military won’t force good service members to leave? We should be worried about the jarheads who don’t think and just “follow orders”.
@@lg860 it's innocent until proven guilty here in the states and always has been. Not denying that it doesn't go that way always, yet overall that's the rule. If you wanted to experience guilty until proven innocent you should have just gone to Mexico. Not that long ago that's how it was and cops would literally pick up men who were walking on the sidewalk for no reason than to fill arrest quotas set by government officials. I'm an American yet my parents were always nervous when I went out walking that I to would get picked up. After all they dam well could and would threaten you with jail if you didn't cough up some money.
I lost a boot camp buddy in June 1970. He was a grunt in 2nd plt, Fox company, he died from multiple fragmentation wounds. These Pendleton Marines have dishonored themselves, their families and most of all 5th Marines.
The California Globe contacted Camp Pendleton to confirm the administrative and criminal punishments that were handed down. Military spokesperson, Major Kendra Motz made a public statement over the weekend that nine Marines were sent to courts-martial, eight pled guilty, and 15 were charged with lower-level offenses.
I was in the Army, and one morning they called us out for formation then sent the MP's and dogs through the barracks for drugs. They found one soldier with some hash, but the very next morning the dogs went through the MP's barracks and they ended up busting half the company. Poetic justice.
In 1983 at 29 palms Marine Corps air ground combat center 1/4 MPs and Nis came during formation and went through the barracks and gave drug test on the spot, when they were done out of 6 hundred Marines, only a little over 2 hundred of us were left I mean 1st Sgt's staff Sgt 's capt and lieutenants almost all staff nco 's and entire offficer command were arrested !
I appreciate that they kinda just had them march out of formation and stand in a perfect line, like they got the order to get arrested and were just like “alright then fair enough.”
What were they going to do, fight back?. They were in the right place to get a fight, but they were not going to come out on top. For one thing, they wouldn't have been armed, and the MPs are always armed.
Back in the 70s we were called out to formation and you could see the drug dogs going into the barracks. Found nothing but as the went to the company HQ, the dogs stopped at a Marine who was discharged that day and was waiting for his buddy to bring him to the airport. Since discharge day is an active duty day, his “enlistment” was extended for another 3-5 years.
This happened several times when I was a El Toro ..same time area ..used to be in morning formation which usually took only mins ..evertime we stood for a extended period we knew they were searching the barracks
I would have went AWOL and let them drag me to Virgina for a few months while I was processed out when they caught me. And got a OTH discharge. Or just say I'm a drug addict and not quitting drugs. Same way to get a OTH
Military prosecutors dropped human trafficking and drug charges against most of the two dozen Marines recently arrested in front of their Camp Pendleton battalion, days after a court ruled those arrests were an unlawful violation of their rights, Marine Corps officials confirmed Tuesday.Dec 3, 2019. SD union trib.
@@jonathanthink5830 Sure! If there's no proof, then those charges will be dropped. If you have proof, don't uselessly bitch on some RUclips comment like some worthless idiot, go to the FBI. You'll be a hero! So many people believe the President is above the law, and there is a lot of recent proof of this, so I think if you actually believe in your country you should take what you know and go to the authorities. Those imaginary humans that are not being trafficked are depending on you! Go save them! On second thought, it's much more safer for you to post about imaginary human trafficking here on RUclips than to be one of those heavily armed 2A-enabled clowns that make a vigilante-style attempt to rescue non-existent victims of human trafficking, especially the one that shot and killed a baby with this AR15.
I used to be in the USMC working as an F/A-18 maintainer. In the early 2000s I belonged to a joint Marine - Navy Hornet training squadron at MCAS Miramar, at San Diego, CA. In 2000 there was a bunch of busts within one of the work centers that ran a drug ring. They had members of the squadron who were really NCIS that helped root these guys out. The work center that had lost so many members couldn't function anymore, so higher echelon transferred in a bunch of guys from deployable squadrons to staff that shop once again.
They had to pull a whole Hawaii P-3 squadron out of the cycle right as they were getting ready to deploy to Diego Garcia in 2001 because NCIS busted a third of the maintainers for making/dealing meth. The CO was later relieved for sleeping with one of his clerks.
I remember hearing about this which happened the exact year I got out, imagine being told you were getting awarded only to get bamboozled and arrested.
I doubt that's how they felt, all of them standing up there, they knew each other they knew what was going down when all their names.started being called.
@@MrChickensnatcher thinking and feeling aren't the same thing, but regardless as someone who has been to numerous formations especially for reward ceremonies; even when knowing full well that nobody is in trouble - you're still never completely at ease, but I'm sure being told in advance you're getting an award probably made some of the Marines not as nervous as they otherwise would be.
I was stationed there with 2/5. People would be shocked at how much organized crime occurs on Camp Pendleton. This is not the first trafficking ring to get taken down.
I served six years...and wonder WHAT might have been if I served at Pendleton. Glad I didn't reenlist, because incidents like this would destroy unit morale, cause tremendous loss of confidence, and mark the unit as a BAD tour to have.
The unit should look at this as those people lined up let the unit down by getting into something they shouldn't of had. Protecting such people brings the entire unit down in the long run.
Nah. We had a number of idiots in our battalion get dishonorably discharged. Didn't deter the rest of us. Hell, we laughed about how dumb they all are. We knew who the good guys were, and who were the shitbags.
While I was between A schools in Great Lakes NTC, I had a collateral duty where I had to escort people returning from AWOL/UA through their processing (drug tests, admin stuff) I saw many people with disciplinary stuff on their way to getting kicked out or sent to the fleet un designated (Deck Seaman). Watching them go through that was the biggest deterrent for getting in trouble for me.
Everytime there was a search for drugs/contraband in the barracks they always found something. A whole lot of something. Never had anyone arrested that I knew, but a ton of NJP's thrown out like candy 🍬
That's because health and comfort inspections can't lead to criminal charges unless PMO or NCIS is there to conduct the search. NJP is not a criminal charge and doesn't require a criminal investigation.
@@MisterBones223 Same. I got out for a whole host of reasons. Basically boiled down to getting burned out from backing my guys but getting shafted by the E-8/O-4 and up level.
I remember when I was in Sgt's course back in 04 a Sgt always came to class with between $30-50k in his pocket. He was a grunt to from 1/5. He was robbing banks in fallbrook and escaping through the back gate onto base. He and couple other Marines were checking their rifles out of the armory to rob the banks. It wasn't in formation though!
Sadly, this is repeated all too often in the service. Almost exclusively drugs, but I've seen it all during my 25 years in the navy. Currently, standards are being lowered to allow these types to enlist to fill the ranks of a military in distress regarding recruiting and retention. Expect more scenes like this.
Yea 40+ Armed NCIS Agents and a few battalions of Marines would encourage a "peaceful surrender" by almost anyone. Still you can see why they didn't (wisely) arrest them during target practice or a live fire exercise XD
I was a cop for 5 years. The ones who resisted arrest were either a) career criminals who were arrested a lot, or b) completely innocent. These marines knew they committed a crime, and finally got caught! They knew in their heart they were 100% guilty and just disgraced everyone. It happens every every every time!!!!
@@prettynoose8497 Thank you for your service to our communities and your insight! I agree and cannot see a perspective where the arrested Marines had their rights violated or ignored as the lawyer claims but hey I never went to law school. As a former police officer do you see any misconduct at all or just a metric ton of BS?
I was stationed there from 05-09. 62 area. I miss San Mateo every day, and I got out 13 years ago. When I got out, I feel like I left part of my soul behind at Pendleton.
I was in that formation watching some of my boys get taken away. They had popped for drugs, and had nothing to do with the guys involved with the smuggling. They were solid grunts who knew their job and never pussied out. It made me sick to watch them get treated like that in front of everyone. Rules are rules, and they got caught, but plenty don’t and go on to pick up rank. This was one of the major moments that made up my mind to not re up.
I served in 1/5 from 2005-2009. This doesn't surprise me. That unit is notorious for charging people. My company once charged 90 percent of the marines for a hazing incident despite evidence few participated. I once had a 1st Sgt who said "Disrespect my ncos and I will make charges up to nail you". I miss pendleton, but not 1/5. Screw that unit. Ps, in that hazing incident I escaped charges because I was in the hospital for blood poisoning. I got lucky
@@Styxswimmer I care, because I work to make money to pay soldiers to defend me. If you were to choose between a soldier who spends his rec time IMPROVING himself mentally, physically, and spiritually or some failure of a soldier who spends his rec time as a pothead, which would you prefer doing the job?
my dad was a combat instructor on Pendleton we all lived there for three years and we moved like a year before this happened. It was crazy to me because i never thought marines would do this but also i knew that Pendleton was the marine version of a small city. Where marines and dependents would rob the gas station and break into homes for a lil extra money for the commisary
This is a more "diverse" marines which resembles something more akin to mercenaries not to mention the lower standards of admittance. No one is seriously joining the U.S. military out of loyalty or duty anymore. It is a gig. Which is a damn shame when compared to our ancestors
I had a marine coworker that told me he smuggled people. I never believed him but after seeing this video he was probably telling the truth. Crazy bastard
Growing up in the Marines. The amout of child abuse and sexual assault towards children I witnessed, and/or experienced is truly astounding as an adult now. The best decision I hope I truly made, was telling my recruiter I wouldn't be going to boot camp as scheduled.
I served in the USMC from 1989 to 2009. Almost all of the child abuse I saw was committed by either the local allied civilian population or enemy combatants. The few times I did see it being committed by our personnel, I reported it. 12 of my 20 years were as an MP and a CSI/CID. Fortunately, most of the crime committed by our people did not involve children.
How did you grow up in the marines if you didn't even go to boot camp? Also I served twice and have lived my entire life and have never seen ANY sexual abuse in or out of the military. Now I am well aware that it is RAMPANT everywhere and a few times I dealt with advances that I escaped. Some guy even attempted to rape me with a butcher knife at age 17 but I fought my way out of there. These things still are not considered normal behavior though, especially in the military. I think a lot of it depends on the kind of people you hang around. I believe any type of rape or child molestation should be a Capitol Offense, no questions asked. We might fry a few innocent men in the process but I would honored to be the first innocent man to die and just consider myself a casualty of war against this heinous crime. This type of offense is worst than murder. It affects that child's entire life and everyone they come into contact with. I could explain further but don't care to. Just like hard drugs it's a cancer and I've seen it ruin generations. Lots of crimes should be considered a CAPITOL OFFENSE and until we start taking the future of mankind seriously we will always have this cancer eroding our society and poisoning the future of humanity as well as mankind. I am sorry for your trauma, it should have never happened.
@@APersonOnRUclipsX used to be. I EAS’ed back in 2013, years before this. So I dunno which battalion is currently residing there or which battalion this is…
I used to live in the end room on the upper deck in 2004, the room I was given after my trip to the sandbox. 18 years later it looks pretty much the same.
This happened to us during Army bootcamp in 1984, the only female Drill Sgt and the captain were arrested together for adultery in front of all of us. Never got them back, entire boot camp run by a badass angry amazing first Sgt and two amazing so respected Drill Sgts that were there day and night... Badass guys. Sgt Mitchell you were unforgettable, respect lifelong. Was intense, still remember every day of bootcamp and those men.
Where is the evidence that the charges were dropped? What specific rights of theirs were violated? Are you aware that military law is NOT the same as civilian law?
I remember being in this formation, it was wild, nobody liked the BC and SGMAJ. But those dudes were actually doing drugs and it was stupid that none of them were discharged dishonorably. But the Battalion Command loved to play stupid games, so they won stupid prizes
While on CQ my team leader smelled weed in a barrack room. He told the private to just give it to him so we could flush it and call his squad leader to keep it internal. He refuses so we had no choice but to call MP. All of a sudden there was CID and MPs and battalion commander. Turns out he had a couple pounds of weed and ecstasy. Edit: this was ft.wainwright, AK at like 1AM. Thank God I had the next day off..... lmfao I never thought to myself until now what was probably said at formation the next day
We had a couple of guys pop hot in my unit years back. At the time, consequences ranged from rehab and/or demotion to discharge depending on rank and if it was the first offense. I had one young Sergeant in my squad who decided to voluntarily take discharge because he wanted to smoke weed. Words got a little heated between us briefly because I thought he was making a bad decision. In hind site, good for him for knowing himself I guess.
Wow! That’s a good lesson. A lot of people go through their whole lives without ever really knowing who they are. My brother (who’s a Marine), would have just called him a shitbag to his face, and then never given him another thought! He’s not one for reflection. 😂
In my early 20's I was eager to join the Marines. I wanted to have that "killer mentality, and reputation". So, I went to the recruiter, talked to him. They found out I had asthma in my medical history, and said I wasn't eligible. They said "Go try the Army." Now that I'm in my 30's, I'm glad they didn't let me join. I don't want to go fight some war for some old fat politicians to line their pockets. And, I also enjoy smoking a J from time to time.
@@jdmbeats Sounds like the right call. I was the same but didn't have asthma so I enlisted in the Army National Guard. 10 years after my discharge, my back is shot, my hips and cervical spine are crooked and at least one of my discs shows minor degradation. The VA won't accept the x-rays I already had so scheduled me for more but they only requested for my cervical spine instead of a full back and hips like I needed. Now I have to figure out why they didn't request anything else and schedule for it. I have to fight to prove that I, a 5'5" 145lb SAW gunner, wearing a 30+lb vest, Kevlar helmet with NVG's, around 15 to 20 lbs of ammo, a 22 lb fully loaded weapon system as well as everything else, has service related back and hip problems and I was told since I was in the National Guard, the VA won't even try to track down my medical records. I weighed myself before putting on my kit and after. It weighed just over 92 lbs. I humped more than half my body weight every single day for a year and I'm in constant pain. Luckily my state legalized weed so that helps. Doesn't fix my body though.
A guy in my OCS class initially came in on the “Judge Program.” Ended up being a damn good Marine, transitioned to Navy EOD and eventually became an officer. It works for some people.
I was in OSUT in 2017, drill asked if anyone joined to avoid going to jail one guy said yea, he got caught with coke and I guess the judge dismissed the case once he knew he enlisted. He was from Tennessee
I have a neighbor who just moved in maybe a year ago. Real nice younger family, super friendly. We’d take them vegetables from our garden and get fresh eggs in return. The husband was an army guy stationed at fort brag. One day I come back home and he’s just gone. Few days go by and I see moving trucks. I ask what happened and evidentially MP came and just scooped him up for an unnamed offense that was a 25-life sentence. The wife and son had to move in with her mother in Charlotte since he was the bread winner, real sad. Well a few months pass and evidentially he was involved in trafficking and underage… content. Never would’ve guessed he was that type of person. This stuff happens more than you’d think. Super spooky. New neighbors moved in about a month ago and they’re a real nice older couple, brought over a flan dish to say hello. I just hope there’s no surprises with these lol
There was a couple accused of being Russian spies and when interviewing neighbors they talked about how kind they were so basically everyone hides behind a mask of their true self these days
I've been in morning formation (71-75) when they would read off courts martial convictions of people, usually murder, rape, child molestation or sodomy. These were Corps-wide convictions, not just within the division or base. But they probably don't do that anymore.
Being called out of formation like that and then straight into the hands of NCIS/CID and ultimately to the brig/stockade. Your heart gotta fking sink like the titanic right in that moment.
The first few that got called out probably had no idea. After five or six guys everyone in that ring knew what was going on... and yet they stood in formation and reported when called. but then, where could they go? They had to know they were being arrested and were surrounded by law enforcement.
Just because someone wears the uniform, does not mean their character is in line with the honor that comes with the uniform worn in service. There are, truly, some serious scumbags who somehow get in and ruin the perception of the whole because of their sole actions. And they're the reason why we get safety briefs about drugs, rape, human trafficking, and other seriously criminal issues.
Military citizens are held to high standards, I often feel the same standards should be applied to government officials who misrepresent intelligence data in order to initiate military action against sovereign nations, often getting many people killed in the process.
I worked in the fire service for years, I was shocked at some of the conduct that these men and women had who wear the uniform, the same people who swore to protect and serve the community. So seeing this in the armed forces does not shock me. So I agree with your opening comment...
We were in the middle of a field op at the mech assault course. All of a sudden they told us to pack our stuff and we tucked all the way back to those same barracks in Sant Mateo. Those were the 1/5 barracks back from 99-01. Anyway, when we got back ncis pulled about 10 people from formation and busted them for trafficking drugs.
damn this must have been on a friday night when the platoon was getting their "dont be stupid, dont get a DUI and dont get arrested" speech before weekend leave.
Being in that formation was the day I knew I was either moving branches or EAS'ing after my contract. I chose to EAS. Would not recommend being under the command of (then) Lt. Col Olsen or SgtMaj Dorsey, absolute poor leadership and understanding of an INFANTY battalion.
Sorry you had such poor leadership Devil Dog. I was down the road from you with 3/1 India before I EAS years ago. I do know how a bad Marine leader can make life hard though, especially in combat ops in Iraq.
Since being out of the Marines for a few years I can say the worst supervisors or leaders ive ever had were marines and as a civilian the worse supervisors to have are prior marines.. sad but true.
@@bhoff82 I'm very much happier now since I got out. Glad we didn't go into actual combat under their command or it would've been a bad day to be a grunt.
@@TJ-zz4lr yeah I know what you mean. Got a Supervisor who's been out since the 80's who's got a serious attitude problem when things aren't happening his way 😂.
@M Y T H I C A L N O V A Is that okay with you buddy? I saved time and now here I am wasting more on your little cringe emojis. This river goes both ways brother.
This is why you shouldn’t just give people automatic respect for being in the military. There are some horrible people in the military just like every other job.
What is embarrassing is how the Command handled that arrest so poorly. If NCIS would have been called, then the Command would have been given instructions on how to handle it. Instead the senior enlisted Marine & Commanding Officer wanted to violate the rights of the accused in formation & all charges were dropped.
that honeslty was a stupid way to do it. bet that captain, wanna be high speed, thought it was a good idea to make "an example" out of them in front of everyone. while im all for smoking someone infront of their peers or in front of a formation, a freaking mass arrest because of pretty heinous crimes such as human trafficking and drug smuggle... nah. thats just flat out stupid
When I was in the Canadian forces we had a guy busted in a pedo ring. We were tasked one day to clean the basement of our barracks because of a field mice infestation. We got to his locker and it was stuffed with Lego building sets. They were all the same set, some Star Wars thing. We thought it was really weird and we asked him about it, to which he told us he was collecting them because they were rare and would be worth a lot of money in a few years. Turns out he was using them to bribe little boys to keep quiet after he took perverted pictures of them. He was busted a couple months later, spent the max time in military prison which in Canada is 2 years less a day, plus a DD and another 8 years in federal prison
A DD is a terrible thing to have on one's record. Some feel this is worse than a felony. At least a felony may be expunged. Consider the case of my brother in law. He got a DD for drug use and going AWOL. He died recently. The drugs took a terrible toll on his body. His sisters were upset that he couldn't get the normal VA burial benefits. I hated explaining how the bull ate the cabbage if you will. A sad story for my brother in law and these young marines.
Highly unlikely that any of them got Dishonorable Discharges. Some might end up with Bad Conduct Dishcharges. There's a big difference. Very few Dishonorable Discharges are given out. Most will probably end up with a "General Discharge, under other than honorable conditions. Most discharges received at court martials are upgraded during the review/appeal process.
I am not sure I follow you here. As I understand your comment, the DD is so bad that, something something bad that was not a result of the DD, he couldn't get a burial. I am not going to argue about a DD here, but you didn't really illustrate how bad one was for someone being discharged aside from not getting a VA burial when they are dead and no longer care. Or maybe I am nitpicking. That said, I am only talking about your comment and have no doubts that there are other details that would not be best to air out on a YT comment string.
@@CharlieUlivarri A DD will absolutely ruin your life, much less your time after death. You lose your right to vote, your second amendment right, you lose all rights to military veteran benefits including medical care (I believe this even applies if your injuries and disabilities are service related), you will never work a government job again, you will never receive a federal benefit like financial aid for college, you will find similar difficulty in finding employment after discharge as if you were a convicted felon (in so many words you are). A DD is catastrophic.
@@CharlieUlivarri DD is worse than a felony in most circumstances. You have the same rights as a felon afterward and whatever you do you have to disclose that you were DD which inhibits you greatly. Also you get no entitled benefits of being a service member. So anything you may have been compensated for is unattainable and veteran and active duty service programs are also unavailable to you. Lastly most DDs come along with a Stint in a federal prison and because your military you end up in a military prison which arguably is worse than normal prison, so there's that.
I was once at Keesler AFB in Biloxi, MS on TDY for training. There was this creeper of a guy named Matt in my training class - had a mustache, glasses, told a lot of dirty jokes, etc. One day, he's called out of class... and he never comes back. All my instructor says is "Matt won't be rejoining us." I get back to lodging and I see Matt's car cordoned off by caution tape with what I presume we're OSI inspecting it. We all knew what it was: Child pr0n. Weeks later, an on-base PSA was released about Matt and what happened with him. As it turns out, his crime was... pirating music and movies? 🤔 I kid you not, that was what they said. We all just presumed it the other thing because he was a creeper. Was piracy really what happened? I have no idea. 😅
@@Executiveinvestments- I was referring to the early retirements of the commander and sergeant major for the way they handled this, not of the accused marines.
When I was in back in the 80’s, approximately 4 or 5 Marines were caught with heroin and syringes in their foot lockers. Back then we lived in squad bays still. So the command had the entire platoon arrested even those who lived off base with their spouses because for sure everyone was involved or knew something and failed to speak up.
@@HateTheIRS It's a great pollitical tool. Fluff abunch of inflated numbers to make yourself look liked you cracked a ring, but most people wont challenge the brass and 20ppl get the shaft for 3 people.
When i was in the service i was a seabee, I served with the third marines in nam. In my squad almost everyone used drugs. The battalion waited until our tour of duty was within a week of going home then general discharged all that they could , I served in the Arizona terriority, hill 65. liberty bridge 67/68
@@mokooh3280 I have no idea. I'm just a civilian. I know he was on 2 ships in his Navy career. The first one and the one he always boasts about is the John King. I think he was a Seabee after serving on the ships. (But don't quote me on that.) I only ever knew about him being a Seabee because it was the 2nd most thing he was proud of besides the Navy in general and the cartoony looking Seabee patch on his BDUs when I was a little kid. I know he was stationed in a few places so maybe that explains it. Idk to be completely honest. I'm fairly ignorant to a lot of things about the military. I'll be straight up with you.
That’s what I thought but it sounds like to me according to these comments that we have a lot of young men addicted and or selling dope for business in our military especially the corp! And on base! I guess you need them drugged up and on the front lines so they won’t be scared! That’s scary in itself!
I lived in a few barracks that were condemned. That trash happens all the time. I hated being in Garrison. Bunch of piss tests and uniform inspections, room inspections 😆.
Bro don't live in the FANTASY WORLD of the U.S. Military is Crime Free or Trouble Free. Many People join, from all types of backgrounds & temptation is real. Military Life is very similar to Civilian Life in the aspect that you're there to preform a Job. You get paid, you go home, you have free time etc. etc. A BIG PROBLEM is that many in Active Duty feel as if they are UNTOUCHABLE or they know everything or all the rules & ultimately they believe they are SLICKER than the SYSTEM. Know this though, no matter what or how long something goes on EVENTUALLY it'll be brought to LIGHT & those who are/we're involved will have to face their wrongdoings!! Just some REAL ADVICE from a former ENLISTED.
Regardless of the who, what, when, where, or why this seriously degrades our armed forces, and the worst part is that these are Marines, some of the toughest we have to offer.
The USMC tries to instill their core values and 14 leadership traits into recruits in boot camp and in the ongoing development of Marines. I believe you should learn those values and traits as a child by your parents long before you ever join the USMC. If someone is a scuzzbag entering the USMC, they will, most of the time stay a scuzzbag. In today's popular culture and society, being a scuzzbag is accepted and even encouraged.
We should hold our armed forces to the highest moral standards when it comes to protecting human life. If you can't keep that many men from becoming criminals ofc you should be degraded for the world to see
Yes, Marines who take part in an illegal activity like human trafficking degrade the Corps. Their arrests are like cutting out a cancer, leaving the United States Marine Corps a healthier body without them.
@@gt131970 Now they can continue to smuggle in peace. If the way someone is arrested is enough to allow human Smugglers go free. Then the system is broken. I guess it's not called "Criminal" Justice for no reason.
That is why we have rights. You can’t pick and choose who gets those rights. Like it or not the smugglers had rights and they were violated. In the eyes of the UCMJ that is the bigger issue. It’s on the command’s fault for being ignorant and blowing on arresting the smugglers
@@Cptn201 If the manner they are arrested breaks their rights (like presumption of innocence), then they should absolutely be let free of the accused crimes for which they were arrested for. Its the system working as intended to uphold rights written into the constitution that cannot be bended because you were sure of the fact (pre-trial) that they are guilty
When we were stationed at Ingleside, TX, I reported a large group I witnessed huddled around a desk watching child r*pe porn. I had listened to enough of their vile remarks to know they didn't just stumble on it and were going to report it. I was told they would be dealt with. Two years later, I learned two of the men earned promotions to the next rank and the others were either still stationed there or moved to another duty station. The person I reported them to was part of their CP ring. Six years later, we were in Groton, CT. Here we go again ... more underage and child s*xual abuse, including materials and active physical abuse on children and underage girls. The command didn't play games there. Several men and one woman were arrested and everything they touched was taken into evidence. Families were questioned and there was even a sweep of their neighborhoods to question neighbors and children. Big difference between locations.
There’s a chaos factor some people don’t even commit crimes get yanked into something
That’s horrible, I’m glad they got arrested
So is the status the same in Inglewood TX you think?
Are you seriously mad at people for watching porn? Also, you can say “rape”… I think.
@@IsaiahRichards692 “child”
The sad part is multiple of the marines arrested were demoted and ran through the legal system because their command insisted they knew about everything going on despite zero evidence. One of the marines I knew. He was arrested because his roommate was involved and first sergeant was 100% certain he had to know something. He knew nothing. They wasted his time for years and caused a good marine to leave the corps.
EDIT: for those asking, it was released everything that happened after the investigation. Marine Corps was forced to drop many of the charges due to illegal handling of the investigation on the Marine Corps' side. But, those who were actually guilty and participated in the crimes were dealt with by both law enforcement and the Marine Corps and got what they deserved. No, they were not trafficking children for sex slavery. They were trafficking weapons, drugs, and families across the border. And yes, it is possible to have a roommate for an extended period of time and not know wtf they do after work. Everyone has their own personal life.
Oh but forcing everyone in the military to take an untested and experimental government vaccine or else you’re kicked out of the military won’t force good service members to leave? We should be worried about the jarheads who don’t think and just “follow orders”.
Guilty until proven innocent nowadays I guess
@@poetlygaming1566 you are correct, always has been. There is no such thing as innocent until proven guilty.
@Youngplague_ exactly.
@@lg860 it's innocent until proven guilty here in the states and always has been. Not denying that it doesn't go that way always, yet overall that's the rule.
If you wanted to experience guilty until proven innocent you should have just gone to Mexico. Not that long ago that's how it was and cops would literally pick up men who were walking on the sidewalk for no reason than to fill arrest quotas set by government officials.
I'm an American yet my parents were always nervous when I went out walking that I to would get picked up. After all they dam well could and would threaten you with jail if you didn't cough up some money.
I lost a boot camp buddy in June 1970. He was a grunt in 2nd plt, Fox company, he died from multiple fragmentation wounds. These Pendleton Marines have dishonored themselves, their families and most of all 5th Marines.
Wow our Marines doing disservice to our country. Not good at all.
They all got let free😂
The California Globe contacted Camp Pendleton to confirm the administrative and criminal punishments that were handed down. Military spokesperson, Major Kendra Motz made a public statement over the weekend that nine Marines were sent to courts-martial, eight pled guilty, and 15 were charged with lower-level offenses.
nobody asked
The CO dishonored the marine corps by making their arrest a public event and because of it they all got off scott free
I was in the Army, and one morning they called us out for formation then sent the MP's and dogs through the barracks for drugs. They found one soldier with some hash, but the very next morning the dogs went through the MP's barracks and they ended up busting half the company. Poetic justice.
In 1983 at 29 palms Marine Corps air ground combat center 1/4 MPs and Nis came during formation and went through the barracks and gave drug test on the spot, when they were done out of 6 hundred Marines, only a little over 2 hundred of us were left I mean 1st Sgt's staff Sgt 's capt and lieutenants almost all staff nco 's and entire offficer command were arrested !
You call it poetic. I call it embarrassing for the Army.
@@pasques This was in the 1970's... It was an embarrassing time for many - for many reasons.
@nicholastv5543 How's everything going Jay ?
Nowadays......MPs would have to give them back the hash if they are of age
I appreciate that they kinda just had them march out of formation and stand in a perfect line, like they got the order to get arrested and were just like “alright then fair enough.”
That's not what happened really. Some other people in here saying they were told they were getting awarded with something and then all got arrested
@@mutilatedpopsicles they did get rewarded. Stupid people who play stupid games win stupid prizes.
@FatevsFate 🤣🤣🍻
What were they going to do, fight back?. They were in the right place to get a fight, but they were not going to come out on top.
For one thing, they wouldn't have been armed, and the MPs are always armed.
@FatevsFate They got awarded with matching shiny bracelets. Good riddance.
Back in the 70s we were called out to formation and you could see the drug dogs going into the barracks. Found nothing but as the went to the company HQ, the dogs stopped at a Marine who was discharged that day and was waiting for his buddy to bring him to the airport. Since discharge day is an active duty day, his “enlistment” was extended for another 3-5 years.
This happened several times when I was a El Toro ..same time area ..used to be in morning formation which usually took only mins ..evertime we stood for a extended period we knew they were searching the barracks
I would have went AWOL and let them drag me to Virgina for a few months while I was processed out when they caught me. And got a OTH discharge. Or just say I'm a drug addict and not quitting drugs. Same way to get a OTH
@@BxCortez2050 that's why you keep your drugs or steroids or whatever in gym lockers across town.
These days they kick you out, back then they made you stay. Man that's something.
That’s just petty. Could’ve let him go since he was pretty much out already. Us taxpayers ended up paying for his “reenlistment.”
Military prosecutors dropped human trafficking and drug charges against most of the two dozen Marines recently arrested in front of their Camp Pendleton battalion, days after a court ruled those arrests were an unlawful violation of their rights, Marine Corps officials confirmed Tuesday.Dec 3, 2019. SD union trib.
if only we use the same human trafficking standards on joe biden.......
@@jonathanthink5830 Sure! If there's no proof, then those charges will be dropped. If you have proof, don't uselessly bitch on some RUclips comment like some worthless idiot, go to the FBI. You'll be a hero! So many people believe the President is above the law, and there is a lot of recent proof of this, so I think if you actually believe in your country you should take what you know and go to the authorities. Those imaginary humans that are not being trafficked are depending on you! Go save them!
On second thought, it's much more safer for you to post about imaginary human trafficking here on RUclips than to be one of those heavily armed 2A-enabled clowns that make a vigilante-style attempt to rescue non-existent victims of human trafficking, especially the one that shot and killed a baby with this AR15.
@@jonathanthink5830 don’t forget about Matt Gaetz.
@@jonathanthink5830 don't forget Trump illegal undocumented labors on his golf courses.
@@jonathanthink5830 you missed Gaetz
I used to be in the USMC working as an F/A-18 maintainer. In the early 2000s I belonged to a joint Marine - Navy Hornet training squadron at MCAS Miramar, at San Diego, CA. In 2000 there was a bunch of busts within one of the work centers that ran a drug ring. They had members of the squadron who were really NCIS that helped root these guys out. The work center that had lost so many members couldn't function anymore, so higher echelon transferred in a bunch of guys from deployable squadrons to staff that shop once again.
Lies again? Marine Soldier
They had to pull a whole Hawaii P-3 squadron out of the cycle right as they were getting ready to deploy to Diego Garcia in 2001 because NCIS busted a third of the maintainers for making/dealing meth. The CO was later relieved for sleeping with one of his clerks.
Hold up, they send in Gibbs?
@@PeterMuskrat6968 Unfortunately they are not all Gibbs by any stretch. Not even close
Sounds like stolen valor to me
I remember hearing about this which happened the exact year I got out, imagine being told you were getting awarded only to get bamboozled and arrested.
Yahtzee
I think they got recognition for all their hard work.
I doubt that's how they felt, all of them standing up there, they knew each other they knew what was going down when all their names.started being called.
@@MrChickensnatcher thinking and feeling aren't the same thing, but regardless as someone who has been to numerous formations especially for reward ceremonies; even when knowing full well that nobody is in trouble - you're still never completely at ease, but I'm sure being told in advance you're getting an award probably made some of the Marines not as nervous as they otherwise would be.
Awarded with a pair of chrome handcuffs (limited edition!)
I was stationed there with 2/5. People would be shocked at how much organized crime occurs on Camp Pendleton. This is not the first trafficking ring to get taken down.
@Fallout Entertainment Industries that’s wild
My son was in 2/5. Last name Schatz.
Military bring lots of cocaine,pills,and meth we've even seen a punching bag full of cocaine
Been going on for years. Too close to the boarder.
@Fallout Entertainment Industries its been known about gang infiltration since the 80s. This is widespread knowledge
I served six years...and wonder WHAT might have been if I served at Pendleton. Glad I didn't reenlist, because incidents like this would destroy unit morale, cause tremendous loss of confidence, and mark the unit as a BAD tour to have.
I have no experience in the Marine Corps but those negatives sound pretty justified to me.
The unit should look at this as those people lined up let the unit down by getting into something they shouldn't of had. Protecting such people brings the entire unit down in the long run.
Uhh don't commit crimes?
Nah. We had a number of idiots in our battalion get dishonorably discharged. Didn't deter the rest of us. Hell, we laughed about how dumb they all are. We knew who the good guys were, and who were the shitbags.
And of course the victims...
While I was between A schools in Great Lakes NTC, I had a collateral duty where I had to escort people returning from AWOL/UA through their processing (drug tests, admin stuff) I saw many people with disciplinary stuff on their way to getting kicked out or sent to the fleet un designated (Deck Seaman). Watching them go through that was the biggest deterrent for getting in trouble for me.
Fellow Chaser. I saw a lot in that collateral duty as well.
Marines to be arrested! Center! March!
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Hahahahaha
🤣🤣🤣🤣
When you receive the command you will place your hands on the back of you head and interlock your fingers.
And we would do it to ..
Everytime there was a search for drugs/contraband in the barracks they always found something. A whole lot of something. Never had anyone arrested that I knew, but a ton of NJP's thrown out like candy 🍬
That's why you keep the drugs in a gym locker across town.
That's because health and comfort inspections can't lead to criminal charges unless PMO or NCIS is there to conduct the search. NJP is not a criminal charge and doesn't require a criminal investigation.
@@sasquatchIRL Cool. I didn't know that. Fortunately I don't have to deal with that nonsense anymore.
We had his called out of formation after post leave pi$$ tests
@@MisterBones223 Same. I got out for a whole host of reasons. Basically boiled down to getting burned out from backing my guys but getting shafted by the E-8/O-4 and up level.
I remember when I was in Sgt's course back in 04 a Sgt always came to class with between $30-50k in his pocket. He was a grunt to from 1/5. He was robbing banks in fallbrook and escaping through the back gate onto base. He and couple other Marines were checking their rifles out of the armory to rob the banks. It wasn't in formation though!
Sadly, this is repeated all too often in the service. Almost exclusively drugs, but I've seen it all during my 25 years in the navy. Currently, standards are being lowered to allow these types to enlist to fill the ranks of a military in distress regarding recruiting and retention. Expect more scenes like this.
a military in distress? It is by far the most BLOATED military on planet earth. Grow up.
I was there that day. I was the guy walking through the parking lot wondering why was there so many cop cars and NCIs
We're you like "I only downloaded like 5 songs for free over the internet."
Me and my guys were walking back from pt and saw the entire battalion marching and were like wtf?
Wait so theyre command knew they were going to be arrested and made a formation how did this give them a case for being innocent
@@starhunter3502 They didn't so their lawyers deemed it as defamation and they got out of any legal charges.
@@matthewtopete1678 I was thinking the same thing. Thx
Those are the most disciplined criminal suspects I’ve ever seen. No resisting arrest, no asking what happening. Just follow orders and get arrested.
Yea 40+ Armed NCIS Agents and a few battalions of Marines would encourage a "peaceful surrender" by almost anyone.
Still you can see why they didn't (wisely) arrest them during target practice or a live fire exercise XD
I was a cop for 5 years. The ones who resisted arrest were either a) career criminals who were arrested a lot, or b) completely innocent.
These marines knew they committed a crime, and finally got caught! They knew in their heart they were 100% guilty and just disgraced everyone. It happens every every every time!!!!
@@prettynoose8497 Thank you for your service to our communities and your insight! I agree and cannot see a perspective where the arrested Marines had their rights violated or ignored as the lawyer claims but hey I never went to law school. As a former police officer do you see any misconduct at all or just a metric ton of BS?
Bootlicking criminals.. Yall done hit a new low
Why they get arrested thoe????
I was stationed there from 05-09. 62 area. I miss San Mateo every day, and I got out 13 years ago. When I got out, I feel like I left part of my soul behind at Pendleton.
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I was in that formation watching some of my boys get taken away. They had popped for drugs, and had nothing to do with the guys involved with the smuggling. They were solid grunts who knew their job and never pussied out. It made me sick to watch them get treated like that in front of everyone. Rules are rules, and they got caught, but plenty don’t and go on to pick up rank. This was one of the major moments that made up my mind to not re up.
I served in 1/5 from 2005-2009. This doesn't surprise me. That unit is notorious for charging people. My company once charged 90 percent of the marines for a hazing incident despite evidence few participated. I once had a 1st Sgt who said "Disrespect my ncos and I will make charges up to nail you". I miss pendleton, but not 1/5. Screw that unit. Ps, in that hazing incident I escaped charges because I was in the hospital for blood poisoning. I got lucky
Did you just say that seeing your criminal friends getting busted scared you out of the Corp? What's the matter, worried you'd be next?
@@smarterthanyou9090 using drugs shouldn't be a criminal offense. Why does anyone care what you do with your body on your own time?
@@Styxswimmer I care, because I work to make money to pay soldiers to defend me. If you were to choose between a soldier who spends his rec time IMPROVING himself mentally, physically, and spiritually or some failure of a soldier who spends his rec time as a pothead, which would you prefer doing the job?
@@smarterthanyou9090 tell me, what's the difference between a soldier getting wasted on alcohol and using pot? The difference is, alcohol is worse.
my dad was a combat instructor on Pendleton we all lived there for three years and we moved like a year before this happened. It was crazy to me because i never thought marines would do this but also i knew that Pendleton was the marine version of a small city. Where marines and dependents would rob the gas station and break into homes for a lil extra money for the commisary
Money dude
This is a more "diverse" marines which resembles something more akin to mercenaries not to mention the lower standards of admittance. No one is seriously joining the U.S. military out of loyalty or duty anymore. It is a gig. Which is a damn shame when compared to our ancestors
@@thegadflygang5381 I agree. No one joins for the love of their country which I don’t blame them for. It’s all about that free college baby’
yeah also there was a Pendleton-Cartell with marines!
Spartans did the same thing.
Nikko Ortiz Marine character wouldn’t let himself get arrested lol he’d hit them with a “ra-ra-ooh-ra-ra” 😂😂
His channel is awesome 👌
Rah-Rah 😂
His navy character would lol
HooAh!!!
That guys got one joke and has coasted off of it for years
I had a marine coworker that told me he smuggled people. I never believed him but after seeing this video he was probably telling the truth. Crazy bastard
Growing up in the Marines. The amout of child abuse and sexual assault towards children I witnessed, and/or experienced is truly astounding as an adult now.
The best decision I hope I truly made, was telling my recruiter I wouldn't be going to boot camp as scheduled.
you grew up IN the marines, but weren't a marine?
hes making up internet stories again @@Six_One_Six
@@Six_One_Six my mom was in the Marines up until I graduated high school
I served in the USMC from 1989 to 2009. Almost all of the child abuse I saw was committed by either the local allied civilian population or enemy combatants. The few times I did see it being committed by our personnel, I reported it. 12 of my 20 years were as an MP and a CSI/CID. Fortunately, most of the crime committed by our people did not involve children.
How did you grow up in the marines if you didn't even go to boot camp? Also I served twice and have lived my entire life and have never seen ANY sexual abuse in or out of the military. Now I am well aware that it is RAMPANT everywhere and a few times I dealt with advances that I escaped. Some guy even attempted to rape me with a butcher knife at age 17 but I fought my way out of there. These things still are not considered normal behavior though, especially in the military. I think a lot of it depends on the kind of people you hang around. I believe any type of rape or child molestation should be a Capitol Offense, no questions asked. We might fry a few innocent men in the process but I would honored to be the first innocent man to die and just consider myself a casualty of war against this heinous crime. This type of offense is worst than murder. It affects that child's entire life and everyone they come into contact with. I could explain further but don't care to. Just like hard drugs it's a cancer and I've seen it ruin generations. Lots of crimes should be considered a CAPITOL OFFENSE and until we start taking the future of mankind seriously we will always have this cancer eroding our society and poisoning the future of humanity as well as mankind. I am sorry for your trauma, it should have never happened.
The fact that I know EXACTLY what area on Pendleton and more specifically which barracks those are… makes this very sad to me.
You'll be strong
Ur barracks?
@@APersonOnRUclipsX used to be. I EAS’ed back in 2013, years before this. So I dunno which battalion is currently residing there or which battalion this is…
Oh wait… says in the description 1/5.
I used to live in the end room on the upper deck in 2004, the room I was given after my trip to the sandbox. 18 years later it looks pretty much the same.
A lot of people complaining about privacy. I say, these guys who commuted human trafficking should be exposed for the scum bags they are
Military, police, government it doesn’t matter….nobody is above the law
At that time they were only accused of it they hadn't been through court yet
@@johnphifer5923 “Theoretically”
Innocent until proven guilty.
@@danh1060 not how it works in the military, buddy
Thanks a lot for not letting us know what the hell was going on!
This happened to us during Army bootcamp in 1984, the only female Drill Sgt and the captain were arrested together for adultery in front of all of us. Never got them back, entire boot camp run by a badass angry amazing first Sgt and two amazing so respected Drill Sgts that were there day and night... Badass guys. Sgt Mitchell you were unforgettable, respect lifelong. Was intense, still remember every day of bootcamp and those men.
Most of them had the charges dropped because of the manner of the arrest. And the clear violation of their rights.
What was wrong with how they were arrested?
@@genesmolko8113 I believe it was public humiliation
@@genesmolko8113 it's also collective punishment , (ironic since that's a war crime)
@@err_4044 Collective punishment is totally okay in the military. Happens all the time
Where is the evidence that the charges were dropped? What specific rights of theirs were violated? Are you aware that military law is NOT the same as civilian law?
My old barracks . Nostalgic.
Mine too!
Mine too
Just a hop skip and a jump for them breakfast burritos
Mine too literally during that day those were my barracks
This also looks like mine. ‘83-‘84 Wpns Co. 3/9 Camp San Mateo, just below the hill south of the chow hall.
Looks just like them, if it’s not them.
I remember being in this formation, it was wild, nobody liked the BC and SGMAJ. But those dudes were actually doing drugs and it was stupid that none of them were discharged dishonorably. But the Battalion Command loved to play stupid games, so they won stupid prizes
Was that Mainside? I don't recognize the buildings but the area has likely changed since I spent time there.
While on CQ my team leader smelled weed in a barrack room. He told the private to just give it to him so we could flush it and call his squad leader to keep it internal. He refuses so we had no choice but to call MP. All of a sudden there was CID and MPs and battalion commander. Turns out he had a couple pounds of weed and ecstasy.
Edit: this was ft.wainwright, AK at like 1AM. Thank God I had the next day off..... lmfao I never thought to myself until now what was probably said at formation the next day
"Deal with it at the lowest possible level" they say. Get fked they do
@@KaiserCS “yo I can try keeping h safe, gimme”
“No”
Entire military police appears behind him
Lol
@@gracchus7782 Welp, let a private do anything and you know the results 😂
We had a couple of guys pop hot in my unit years back. At the time, consequences ranged from rehab and/or demotion to discharge depending on rank and if it was the first offense. I had one young Sergeant in my squad who decided to voluntarily take discharge because he wanted to smoke weed. Words got a little heated between us briefly because I thought he was making a bad decision. In hind site, good for him for knowing himself I guess.
Were you mad that your guys in your unit couldn’t keep themselves disciplined? Do you smoke weed now too? 😂 (Canadian civilian questions)
@@JphoenixK Yes to #1. No to #2.
Wow! That’s a good lesson. A lot of people go through their whole lives without ever really knowing who they are. My brother (who’s a Marine), would have just called him a shitbag to his face, and then never given him another thought! He’s not one for reflection. 😂
In my early 20's I was eager to join the Marines. I wanted to have that "killer mentality, and reputation". So, I went to the recruiter, talked to him. They found out I had asthma in my medical history, and said I wasn't eligible. They said "Go try the Army."
Now that I'm in my 30's, I'm glad they didn't let me join. I don't want to go fight some war for some old fat politicians to line their pockets. And, I also enjoy smoking a J from time to time.
@@jdmbeats Sounds like the right call. I was the same but didn't have asthma so I enlisted in the Army National Guard. 10 years after my discharge, my back is shot, my hips and cervical spine are crooked and at least one of my discs shows minor degradation. The VA won't accept the x-rays I already had so scheduled me for more but they only requested for my cervical spine instead of a full back and hips like I needed. Now I have to figure out why they didn't request anything else and schedule for it.
I have to fight to prove that I, a 5'5" 145lb SAW gunner, wearing a 30+lb vest, Kevlar helmet with NVG's, around 15 to 20 lbs of ammo, a 22 lb fully loaded weapon system as well as everything else, has service related back and hip problems and I was told since I was in the National Guard, the VA won't even try to track down my medical records. I weighed myself before putting on my kit and after. It weighed just over 92 lbs. I humped more than half my body weight every single day for a year and I'm in constant pain. Luckily my state legalized weed so that helps. Doesn't fix my body though.
Never knew about this...what a tragedy
Can someone fill me in? I have no idea what's going on. What's the backstory?
When I went to Boot camp several recruits were criminals who were allowed to join the MC instead of jail. The ones I knew regretted their choice lol
I didn't know that was actually a thing
The MC will not knowingly accept a known convicted criminal as a recruit.
A guy in my OCS class initially came in on the “Judge Program.” Ended up being a damn good Marine, transitioned to Navy EOD and eventually became an officer.
It works for some people.
Lol when was this World war II? Vietnam? I was a recruiter in 2006 and we would never offer such thing.
I was in OSUT in 2017, drill asked if anyone joined to avoid going to jail one guy said yea, he got caught with coke and I guess the judge dismissed the case once he knew he enlisted. He was from Tennessee
I have a neighbor who just moved in maybe a year ago. Real nice younger family, super friendly. We’d take them vegetables from our garden and get fresh eggs in return.
The husband was an army guy stationed at fort brag.
One day I come back home and he’s just gone. Few days go by and I see moving trucks. I ask what happened and evidentially MP came and just scooped him up for an unnamed offense that was a 25-life sentence.
The wife and son had to move in with her mother in Charlotte since he was the bread winner, real sad.
Well a few months pass and evidentially he was involved in trafficking and underage… content. Never would’ve guessed he was that type of person.
This stuff happens more than you’d think. Super spooky.
New neighbors moved in about a month ago and they’re a real nice older couple, brought over a flan dish to say hello. I just hope there’s no surprises with these lol
Lmao,.... Im sure the old couple are into bondage and eating human flesh. You sound like a great neighbor. I wish you were my neighbor.
@@o_ocanttellifseriousordumb803 😅😂😂
There was a couple accused of being Russian spies and when interviewing neighbors they talked about how kind they were so basically everyone hides behind a mask of their true self these days
Cartell worker everywhere!
Crazy story, and sad for that young wife who will probably divorce his arse
I've been in morning formation (71-75) when they would read off courts martial convictions of people, usually murder, rape, child molestation or sodomy. These were Corps-wide convictions, not just within the division or base. But they probably don't do that anymore.
It was a much saner time as far as laws and regulations
I got out 12 years ago. They still called out shitbags during company or battalion formations back then, so I'm sure it's still a thing now.
Although this video is 3 YEARS old, it's still disgusting to see or know of something as bad as this coming from Marines. Definitely NOT on my watch!
Being called out of formation like that and then straight into the hands of NCIS/CID and ultimately to the brig/stockade.
Your heart gotta fking sink like the titanic right in that moment.
Yeah but the brig is kind of a fuckin joke these days or maybe it always has been
Full-on dishonorable. Stays with you forever.
All charges were dropped because of this video lol
The first few that got called out probably had no idea. After five or six guys everyone in that ring knew what was going on... and yet they stood in formation and reported when called. but then, where could they go? They had to know they were being arrested and were surrounded by law enforcement.
@@waynecoulter6761 Hence the Kafkaesque horror aspect of the whole thing.
I just want to hear what they said
WOW! What great reporting by the San Diego Union-Tribune! Absolutely no audio really explains what was going on!
Pretty sad indeed, you hope someone in the comment section fills us in, horrible reporting.
Thank you for your service. :)
Just because someone wears the uniform, does not mean their character is in line with the honor that comes with the uniform worn in service.
There are, truly, some serious scumbags who somehow get in and ruin the perception of the whole because of their sole actions. And they're the reason why we get safety briefs about drugs, rape, human trafficking, and other seriously criminal issues.
Yeah sometimes they wear badges too
A uniform isn't a source of honor and it doesn't give you honor.
Military citizens are held to high standards, I often feel the same standards should be applied to government officials who misrepresent intelligence data in order to initiate military action against sovereign nations, often getting many people killed in the process.
I worked in the fire service for years, I was shocked at some of the conduct that these men and women had who wear the uniform, the same people who swore to protect and serve the community. So seeing this in the armed forces does not shock me. So I agree with your opening comment...
You are correct.
We were in the middle of a field op at the mech assault course. All of a sudden they told us to pack our stuff and we tucked all the way back to those same barracks in Sant Mateo. Those were the 1/5 barracks back from 99-01. Anyway, when we got back ncis pulled about 10 people from formation and busted them for trafficking drugs.
damn this must have been on a friday night when the platoon was getting their "dont be stupid, dont get a DUI and dont get arrested" speech before weekend leave.
Is there any context as to why this is happening
Being in that formation was the day I knew I was either moving branches or EAS'ing after my contract. I chose to EAS. Would not recommend being under the command of (then) Lt. Col Olsen or SgtMaj Dorsey, absolute poor leadership and understanding of an INFANTY battalion.
every officer a idiot usuallt in the military they go through college to learn war instead of go through war to learn war
Sorry you had such poor leadership Devil Dog. I was down the road from you with 3/1 India before I EAS years ago. I do know how a bad Marine leader can make life hard though, especially in combat ops in Iraq.
Since being out of the Marines for a few years I can say the worst supervisors or leaders ive ever had were marines and as a civilian the worse supervisors to have are prior marines.. sad but true.
@@bhoff82 I'm very much happier now since I got out. Glad we didn't go into actual combat under their command or it would've been a bad day to be a grunt.
@@TJ-zz4lr yeah I know what you mean. Got a Supervisor who's been out since the 80's who's got a serious attitude problem when things aren't happening his way 😂.
That’s my old barracks! Good times!
Is that a schoolhouse? Why they got a guidon?
@@MichaelJames-lr6lt Every company has a guidon
@@MichaelJames-lr6lt What lol?
@M Y T H I C A L N O V A Is that okay with you buddy? I saved time and now here I am wasting more on your little cringe emojis. This river goes both ways brother.
These barracks are shitholes
What did they get arrested for?
On what charges they got arrested ..... Please any one
This is why you shouldn’t just give people automatic respect for being in the military. There are some horrible people in the military just like every other job.
If they didn't sell that. Nobody would join. It pays very little compared to other dangerous and demanding jobs.
@@BobthePointer In a better world I would agree. But it can be a way to get out of poverty.
This was hard to watch. I was never what we used to refer to as a Marine’s Marine, but man I hate to see this.
Wait, can someone explain what is going on?! What is the backstory?
Can someone tell me what they did????
Embarrassment 100%
What is embarrassing is how the Command handled that arrest so poorly. If NCIS would have been called, then the Command would have been given instructions on how to handle it. Instead the senior enlisted Marine & Commanding Officer wanted to violate the rights of the accused in formation & all charges were dropped.
The command that allowed this to happen were relieved of duty. Because of the manner of the arrest
Seriously?
Supposed to be in private?
Yep and the Battalion CO was given a BCD and now works at Taco Bell as night shift manager.
They weren’t supposed to be ready for formation than arrest should’ve been done off site
that honeslty was a stupid way to do it. bet that captain, wanna be high speed, thought it was a good idea to make "an example" out of them in front of everyone. while im all for smoking someone infront of their peers or in front of a formation, a freaking mass arrest because of pretty heinous crimes such as human trafficking and drug smuggle... nah. thats just flat out stupid
Any updates? It’s been 4 years.
can someone tell me why they were arrested
To bad our Politicians arent held to the same standard as these guys. More criminals in Politics than there are here!
They just resign from congress and get a nice retirement package. Pathetic.
“Do you have any weapons on you I should know about?”
“S I R N O S I R!”
Do I !!!!!
Is that a gun in your waistband?
*YES SIR!*
_Fix yourself._
*AYE SIR!*
What was the follow up to this?
What was that about?
When I was in the Canadian forces we had a guy busted in a pedo ring. We were tasked one day to clean the basement of our barracks because of a field mice infestation. We got to his locker and it was stuffed with Lego building sets. They were all the same set, some Star Wars thing. We thought it was really weird and we asked him about it, to which he told us he was collecting them because they were rare and would be worth a lot of money in a few years. Turns out he was using them to bribe little boys to keep quiet after he took perverted pictures of them. He was busted a couple months later, spent the max time in military prison which in Canada is 2 years less a day, plus a DD and another 8 years in federal prison
but did they sell the sets?
@@JohnSmith-zk8xp I bought one, 75316 mandalorian starfighter.
It's an awesome set.
@@BesoffenerIslamist lucky bastard
A DD is a terrible thing to have on one's record. Some feel this is worse than a felony. At least a felony may be expunged. Consider the case of my brother in law. He got a DD for drug use and going AWOL. He died recently. The drugs took a terrible toll on his body. His sisters were upset that he couldn't get the normal VA burial benefits. I hated explaining how the bull ate the cabbage if you will. A sad story for my brother in law and these young marines.
Highly unlikely that any of them got Dishonorable Discharges. Some might end up with Bad Conduct Dishcharges. There's a big difference. Very few Dishonorable Discharges are given out. Most will probably end up with a "General Discharge, under other than honorable conditions. Most discharges received at court martials are upgraded during the review/appeal process.
I am not sure I follow you here. As I understand your comment, the DD is so bad that, something something bad that was not a result of the DD, he couldn't get a burial. I am not going to argue about a DD here, but you didn't really illustrate how bad one was for someone being discharged aside from not getting a VA burial when they are dead and no longer care. Or maybe I am nitpicking. That said, I am only talking about your comment and have no doubts that there are other details that would not be best to air out on a YT comment string.
@@CharlieUlivarri A DD will absolutely ruin your life, much less your time after death. You lose your right to vote, your second amendment right, you lose all rights to military veteran benefits including medical care (I believe this even applies if your injuries and disabilities are service related), you will never work a government job again, you will never receive a federal benefit like financial aid for college, you will find similar difficulty in finding employment after discharge as if you were a convicted felon (in so many words you are). A DD is catastrophic.
@@pxatm Great. I'm glad you missed the topic of my reply.
@@CharlieUlivarri DD is worse than a felony in most circumstances. You have the same rights as a felon afterward and whatever you do you have to disclose that you were DD which inhibits you greatly. Also you get no entitled benefits of being a service member. So anything you may have been compensated for is unattainable and veteran and active duty service programs are also unavailable to you. Lastly most DDs come along with a Stint in a federal prison and because your military you end up in a military prison which arguably is worse than normal prison, so there's that.
I was once at Keesler AFB in Biloxi, MS on TDY for training. There was this creeper of a guy named Matt in my training class - had a mustache, glasses, told a lot of dirty jokes, etc. One day, he's called out of class... and he never comes back. All my instructor says is "Matt won't be rejoining us." I get back to lodging and I see Matt's car cordoned off by caution tape with what I presume we're OSI inspecting it. We all knew what it was: Child pr0n. Weeks later, an on-base PSA was released about Matt and what happened with him. As it turns out, his crime was... pirating music and movies? 🤔 I kid you not, that was what they said. We all just presumed it the other thing because he was a creeper. Was piracy really what happened? I have no idea. 😅
I'm not up to date on the backstory. Why is it they were arrested?
Well that's surely going to cause some early retirements.
oh yeah really? The case has been thrown out already.
@@Executiveinvestments- I was referring to the early retirements of the commander and sergeant major for the way they handled this, not of the accused marines.
@@likeggs6465 I'm extremely bemused as to how this was mishandled by the command staff, would you care to elaborate?
,@WINNING,
where is your proof?
Ya there in court already most likely gonna get posted...thank god
When I was in back in the 80’s, approximately 4 or 5 Marines were caught with heroin and syringes in their foot lockers. Back then we lived in squad bays still. So the command had the entire platoon arrested even those who lived off base with their spouses because for sure everyone was involved or knew something and failed to speak up.
I hate collective punishment
@@HateTheIRS One of the biggest flaws of the military, at least the american one, although that behavior is universal in every country
@@HateTheIRS And a reason for which joining when it is not wartime is just a terrible idea
Yeah. I'm calling bullshit. Arresting other members who don't even live on base with no evidence or probable cause?
@@HateTheIRS It's a great pollitical tool. Fluff abunch of inflated numbers to make yourself look liked you cracked a ring, but most people wont challenge the brass and 20ppl get the shaft for 3 people.
Anyone know what they are charged with?
why were the arrested though?
Seems like a lot of people don't know the difference between smuggling and trafficking
I swear the average person is so dumb.
I have forgotten about this but I guess if my memory serves me correctly this was a group that were bring illegals into America or am I wrong?
Their both something marines shouldn't be doing
Yeah, trafficking is sex related, smuggling is like Han Solo or Malcolm Reynolds. ;p
When i was in the service i was a seabee, I served with the third marines in nam. In my squad almost everyone used drugs. The battalion waited until our tour of duty was within a week of going home then general discharged all that they could , I served in the Arizona terriority, hill 65. liberty bridge 67/68
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Thank you for your service, Myself was a corporal in The Marines back in mid 90’s!!!
My dad was a Seabee in the late 70s and early 80s. He served on the USS John King. Go Seabees!
@@therevolutionwillnotbeyoutubed just a question what was a seabee on a ship for?
@@mokooh3280 I have no idea. I'm just a civilian. I know he was on 2 ships in his Navy career. The first one and the one he always boasts about is the John King. I think he was a Seabee after serving on the ships. (But don't quote me on that.) I only ever knew about him being a Seabee because it was the 2nd most thing he was proud of besides the Navy in general and the cartoony looking Seabee patch on his BDUs when I was a little kid. I know he was stationed in a few places so maybe that explains it. Idk to be completely honest. I'm fairly ignorant to a lot of things about the military. I'll be straight up with you.
What was the reason for the arrests?
Never dishonor the corps, may the truth come to light
That’s what I thought but it sounds like to me according to these comments that we have a lot of young men addicted and or selling dope for business in our military especially the corp! And on base! I guess you need them drugged up and on the front lines so they won’t be scared! That’s scary in itself!
Sure, only the corps is allowed to wrong you.
@@coolbuddydude1 Well somebody is butt hurt. Take it easy
The "Corps" will knowingly send you out into an IED minefield if it means an officer getting a star on his evals. Keep drinking the Motoade.
@@andewfusthe3rd stop simping.
“Undue command influence ruins investigation” is a more appropriate title.
What did they do to get arrested?
how many cops did it take to arrest him?
Just the fact that they're still breathing means that law enforcement got to them before the Gunnery Seargent. Lol
lmao
That's me in the very back of formation. Pretty much everyone came back to the unit.
Were they solid and squared away as marines or slackers?
Straight back to running humans for cartels to enslave 🤣
This was 3 years ago. Why am i getting this, again, now?
Because they knew you would click on it and clicks mean money.
Wow! What is this about?! I'd love to know!
Same thing happened back in 82' at Camp Margarita when I was with 1/5. It was 4 shitbirds as I recall. :-)
The remainder of the unit had to watch as a warning while his commander had to set a sample about the consequences if you commit a crime.
Wait so what's the story here?
Why did you chop out the arest part
Damn better barracks than lejeune that’s for sure
FC 304 & 305 were condemned barracks... I lived there for a year! At least field day was easy.
I was in Wallace creek. Wasn’t bad at all.
Hp512 With the N st Hooligans
I lived in a few barracks that were condemned. That trash happens all the time. I hated being in Garrison. Bunch of piss tests and uniform inspections, room inspections 😆.
L street barracks Weapons
Dang, this is sad and bad. I had just enlisted, and this was the last thing I expected to see happen from any military branch.
Bruh we have Seals and GBs ODing from coke every year.
Sad and bad, ah the vocabulary of a crayon-eater.
Don’t look up what’s happening in fort hood
This is just the tip of the iceberg buddy
Bro don't live in the FANTASY WORLD of the U.S. Military is Crime Free or Trouble Free. Many People join, from all types of backgrounds & temptation is real. Military Life is very similar to Civilian Life in the aspect that you're there to preform a Job. You get paid, you go home, you have free time etc. etc. A BIG PROBLEM is that many in Active Duty feel as if they are UNTOUCHABLE or they know everything or all the rules & ultimately they believe they are SLICKER than the SYSTEM. Know this though, no matter what or how long something goes on EVENTUALLY it'll be brought to LIGHT & those who are/we're involved will have to face their wrongdoings!! Just some REAL ADVICE from a former ENLISTED.
Can someone fill me in on to why they got arrested.
What did they do to get arrested
Something similar happened with the Seabees in Cali early 2000s, apparently a group of guys in the barracks had a major meth opperation.
Regardless of the who, what, when, where, or why this seriously degrades our armed forces, and the worst part is that these are Marines, some of the toughest we have to offer.
The USMC tries to instill their core values and 14 leadership traits into recruits in boot camp and in the ongoing development of Marines. I believe you should learn those values and traits as a child by your parents long before you ever join the USMC. If someone is a scuzzbag entering the USMC, they will, most of the time stay a scuzzbag. In today's popular culture and society, being a scuzzbag is accepted and even encouraged.
We should hold our armed forces to the highest moral standards when it comes to protecting human life. If you can't keep that many men from becoming criminals ofc you should be degraded for the world to see
Yes, Marines who take part in an illegal activity like human trafficking degrade the Corps. Their arrests are like cutting out a cancer, leaving the United States Marine Corps a healthier body without them.
@@hermocrasbreadlord9557 The military is run by politics, shiite rolls down the hill.
Some of the toughest? Were they MARSOC or Raiders?
Oh dam. The recent 14 yr old girl proves it didnt end.
What was the arrest about?
There is nothing wrong with the way this was done. Honestly
Aside from the fact charges were dropped due to the way the arrest was conducted.
@@gt131970 Now they can continue to smuggle in peace. If the way someone is arrested is enough to allow human Smugglers go free. Then the system is broken. I guess it's not called "Criminal" Justice for no reason.
That is why we have rights. You can’t pick and choose who gets those rights. Like it or not the smugglers had rights and they were violated. In the eyes of the UCMJ that is the bigger issue.
It’s on the command’s fault for being ignorant and blowing on arresting the smugglers
@@Cptn201 If the manner they are arrested breaks their rights (like presumption of innocence), then they should absolutely be let free of the accused crimes for which they were arrested for.
Its the system working as intended to uphold rights written into the constitution that cannot be bended because you were sure of the fact (pre-trial) that they are guilty
@@Cptn201 There are rights for a damn reason. You err on the side of presumed innocence rather than presumed guilt. Think about that.
If I was up to no good with a bunch of guys and all of us were called up to the front I’d be more than a little paranoid
I’m sure they were shitting themselves lol
What did they do?
All the criminal case were dropped because of this video. the Navy, which the Marines are part of, ruled they could not get a fair trial
Why can't they arrest congress?
they couldnt convict most of these guys even if they were guilty