Those guys who ate when they weren't supposed to had NOT lost the ability to behave rationally. They were doing the most rational thing they could have possibly done. Anyway, this study shows us one reason that the thinking of anorexics is so crazy.
Another thing that happened in this study was that the men found that healthy looking bodies looked fat to them. It’s the brains coping mechanism with being malnourished, which is why anorexics tend to judge others bodies a lot. It’s not because they are dumb, or wrong, it’s because their brains are literally showing themselves and other people as fatter than they are to psychologically protect them from the distress.
As a wrestler that cuts weight five months out of the year the thoughts and feelings they were having is definitely real. The dinner story where they would be mad at people who didn’t eat hit so close.
I didn’t grow up with a disorder just a mom who didn’t feed me and my brothers. We ate maybe once or twice a week. There’s a feeling indescribable when you find out people get three meals a day. To this day I can easily go a day without eating. I don’t now. I saw people at school complain about the food. I couldn’t get enough of it. I used to watch cartoons and just gaze at the big chicken drums they had.
@@darpan2161 oh yea I’m 19 years old eating very good now that I have my own job. The problem is I walk into stores now and don’t know what to get since I didn’t have that choice as a kid. But yea I’m all good now I’m grateful for the hard times I had I wouldn’t be who I am today.
As a person who suffered with disordered eating I can relate to so many things that reminded me of what I felt when I was at my lowest. I'm so glad I recovered 💌
this literally describes what it feels like to have an eating disorder, but in an eating disorder you can't just "stop the experiment" cuz if you eat you'll feel so guilty and anxious and worried, it's exhausting.
@anasdomain9994yea I feel really terrible for her. But also, I still think she knows what she's doing lol. she can profit off of people who fetishize her. Not to mention tons of young girls envying her body, which she posts in revealing clothes often. Recovering from anorexia isn't something that can happen easily, but glamorizing it on the internet so publicly could probably stop whenever she wanted it to. (Honestly blame her mom for it all tho, enabling her and not protecting her from herself. She should've gotten her daughter help sooner. Breaks my heart for Eugenia
I had anorexia and thankfully I did stop. It was the year 2004 and I did MDMA and on the come down I looked in the mirror and saw how skinny I actually was. It was like a filter was lifted and I could see what I actually looked like and that day forth I was no longer anorexic. It was the only time I’ve done MDMA and it might of saved my life.
I just wanna add that I felt no guilt nor anxiety. I was glowing and felt renewed. I’m sure it wouldn’t work for everyone but it was pretty damn amazing.
I had a major ED. I’m talking 93lbs, 12 bmi, less than 6% body fat. The starvation wasn’t the worst part, because of ketosis. It was the healing, just as this study showed. I developed severe anxiety, OCD, and BPD. Had to go to occupational therapy for three years, and am still on medication. While I’m reaching a normal weight now, I still have to deal with the after effects of Anorexia.
When my eating disorder was at peak, I limited myself just a measly 450 calories a day. I felt exactly like these men did. All I thought about was food, every second of the day. Thats no exaggeration, every moment I was awake, and even in dreams, food consumed all my thoughts, desires, hopes, fears and excitements. It was a nightmarish way to live. I got down to 95 pounds and would lose control like some of these men did and couldn't stop myself from eating, though it stayed mostly anorexia and not a binge eating disorder. It made me lose my sanity as well. One of the few videos on this channel in which I can unfortunately understand the pain.
It reminds me during the days my eating disorders were at peak. I would limit myself eating only around 1200 calories a day, no sugar, just greens a small morsels of lean meat + a boiled egg. It reached a point I was so obsessed with food I would have so much conflicting thoughts and I would spend hours daydreaming about food and how to get rid of calories by exercising just to insert a few morsels. It became exhausting, I feel lost and disconnected and what I think all the time is food. During that time I was also doing intermittent fasting, sometimes one meal only in a day. Each minute I would stare at the clock and can’t wait for the time to finally eat my meal since I felt really hungry and deprived. In time, the tolls of hunger hit me and I went on a binge eating a tub of ice cream, 2 large burgers and a box of pizza with 1L of soda. Feeling guilty afterwards, I purged everything out by forcing myself to vomit it. It then went to a cycle of purging and binging until I decided to get help since I know Im really fucking myself not only physically but mentally.
This was me too, a few years ago I’m 5’2” and went from 172 to115lbs in a very sickly way. 900 calories a day, watched sugars/calories. Paced around my house (I was 17-18 at the time) to burn calories. Now I’m 150 and weightlift three times a week Now it’s protein counting and I’ve gotten over my eating disorder but the struggle continues.
woah. it's interesting how differently people act when having an eating disorder. i have anorexia nervosa and i usually i just drink milk tea or lattes multiple times (as meals i guess?), but sometimes i'd eat solid foods like toast or fruit. abut i never felt that daydreaming of food and going crazy of hunger, instead i'd go crazy whenever i ate more than i feel comfortable with, like for example a whole burger etc, that i'd end up purging it (forcing myself to puke it out). food never gives me a happy feeling, more like regret and feeling pathetic after a meal. most extreme case i ate 3 whole pizza slices and the guilt i felt was so overwhelming that i didn't eat and drink anything other than water for 10 days (starved). i'm doing better now though thankfully :)
@@bingbong6323same... My limit was 300-500 calories a week for nearly a year consistently, and then on n off for the next 6 years but only now at 25 i kinda developed binge eating (i'd eat till i gag/puke in my mouth, and sometimes i even start blacking out if i skipped ONE meal in a day) however if i end up broke or was able to avoid sweet food for quite some time then i can eat normally for a while. But still, it took years for that to happen whereas this experiment only took weeks n not exactly with "starving" amounts of food...
A lot survivors of the Holocaust died like this when they were finally given lots of food after they were freed from the concentration camps. Such an awful way to die.
As someone who suffers from an ED i can personally tell you that starvation is a type of hell I wouldn’t wish on the most deplorable of society. I am absolutely terrified of the recovery process as I’ve heard the horror stories of re-eating but I hope to be on the road to recovery soon here.
As a person with an ED,this really hits close to home. I usually eat under 500calories a day or intermittent fast. The cookbook thing is so true. I bake and cook for my whole family everyday,and i watch them eat the food. I count the amount of calories other people from my class eat everyday and then compare myself (especially my body) to them. I learned the exact amount of calories in each and every single type of food,from fruits,to veggies to sweets and even breads... I went from a girl who was often described as calm and patient to a person who was easily irritated and angry at people. I've lost my period and my teen horniness in the span of 2-3 months i think? I used to do lots of extreme stuff just so that i can burn the extra calories that i may have eaten (or when i see the number on the scale not going down everyday). I once carried a 6kg(15lbs) watermelon after me for 8km(5 miles) in the middle of a summer day so that i could lose weight faster and understand what 6kg means. My taste in food has changed too: i went from a general foodie to an absolute food devourer whenever i'm having an OMAD. I even went at some point to fantasize about getting locked up and beaten so that i could starve and get all skinny and boney. I sometimes look at small kids on the streets and become envious of their legs (i have the fattest fucking thighs ever). I sh and let the blood drain out so that the i can feel lighter. I've even formed a small tic of touching my ribs just to feel the bones protrude through me. i fantasize about being all skin and bones,of no longer having a body;a physical self. I genuinely don''t want to be percieved anymore.
I have anorexia. I've gone through periods of loosing and gaining weight for years now. I've gone days without eating, I've given myself severe vitamin deficiencies. My body is ruined and will never be the same. Binging can last from one episode to months. I've had times I've binged until the scale was 10-20lbs heavier than I was in the morning. Putting on 22lbs within 3 weeks kinda bullshit. You cant control yourself during a binge, I would fight anyone who tried to stop me from clearing the pantry. I didnt choose to have this, anorexia is a result of you trying to cope with trauma by gaining control over food.
I did a month’s worth of this during aircrew survival course, first two weeks in a semi jungle setting, we got food for 3 times a day, starting the second week they gradually put us to a 2 times a day eat schedule, on the 3rd week swamp setting, just once a day and we eat snails (belitong) , and for the fourth week jungle setting, no food, i just drink river water for 7 days whilst making a rower and wove rope from dried tree bark, during the third week all we think was food, our conversation revolves around the restaurants we’d like to go, after the fourth week is done we got a day for isolation training, they left us in a designated area alone and we have to keep lighting the fire using whatever in our surroundings, the day they gave us porridge and magically all our thoughts of food disappear, can’t eat spicy food for three days, but we ate spicy chicken and collectively have diarrhea 😂. 10/10, would never do again 😅.
i also stopped eating spicy food for two weeks when i went to a country with non-spicy cuisine. after coming home and eating spicy skewers, i had the worst stomachache of my life 🤣
this comment was so needed and it randomly answered something for me. (the spicy food part) thanks for leaving this comment. You did well on that. creditz
I was a starved orphan in 90s Romania and even as an adult I’m protective of my food, and take a bunch at a time. It’s not active, my mom pointed it out over the years. I eventually got adopted, but for the first mb 5-10 years, in elementary school, I’d still eat out of trash n off the floor. Hell the other kids threw stuff on the floor to watch me eat it. I realized that part as I got older. Of course it stays with you. If I didn’t get adopted I would’ve died I was that bad off. To this day I fucking hate when people waste food or eat a ridiculous amount. When I first came to America, I loved watching Julia Child’s cooking show. Mb that’s why? I used to steal food too. When I got adopted I never stopped eating, mom asked my dr and he said keep feeding her, she is catching up.
I've had eating disorders; anorexia, bulimia, binge eating. But NOTHING compared to when I was violently ill while pregnant. I didn't eat anything for 7 weeks and I couldn't keep water down either. I was so malnourished and loosing my mind I dreamt of my Greek family shoving food down my throat, and I would eat green grapes and watermelon they were the best to throw up. I was the worst. I can't imagine going 6 months without any food 😢
I had hyperemesis gravidarium during pregnancy. It was hell. I know of a few women who’s organs started shutting down because they couldn’t keep food down.
@@jupiterwillow9618 I’m sorry I was in California… The MMJ community definitely helped with those symptoms during the first trimester… There’s an extract in honey that’s used in the Jamaican islands and a whole medical study that was done on it. I pray the best for you
As a person who has had (and is currently recovering) from a restrictive eating disorder (anorexia nervous), I find this highly unsettlingly relatable. In refeeding, the mere craving if food drives me insane and the constant ravenous sensation devours me. I'm not able to go a couple of days without self harm or feeling so weak that I could bare get out of bed. May god bless everyone suffering from an eating disorder or in famine ❤
The participants were very selfless and brave. They chose to do this for others despite the war being a hard time for them as well. I could never throw myself into such a kind of suffering. Too bad they didn't receive the proper treatment from the government. Their physical and mental health were scarred for life.
I don't have a speck of sympathy for them, even less from knowing the details of the front line troops. And even FAR worse was the treatment of Allied prisoners by the Japanese. No.. these "conscientious objectors" are cowards and their so-called "ordeal" was NOTHING compared to what the real heroes and non-cowards had to endure. Minus 100 below zero sympathy for them.
@@daneaxe6465 So, what? Some small percentage of dudes didn't want to die for their country just so others could survive. Not a bad trade IMO, I'd rather stick it out with my family at this point in life, especially with the way the government is now.
@@daneaxe6465 You try starving and stop taking your privilege for granted. A. You'll likely die for some reason or another because you did try. B. You'll likely pussy out on day four because you're more talk than action and you think it's cowardly to starve yourself, when in reality, it's cowardly to have fed yourself through immoral means, such as theft. Do not call it cowardly when 'observers' still experienced what's tantamount to a LOT of people's entire lives, including childhood, where kids never even made it to teens, let alone adulthood. You still being alive is not a blessing, it's not a right, it's simply your circumstances stacked against stronger people, who would do your entire life twice as well and twice as intellectually, having endured what you cannot. C. You definitely didn't starve, nearly die, nor were you chained in some basement to become a mere progeny for bastard children. You had a good life in relation to so many others. No, it's not cowardly what these people did... it's taken for granted, but it's not cowardly. They demonstrated and nobody learned. People still struggle and the experiment ultimately advanced a small part of science that goes untouched. You were spanked? That's cute. You have nine hours of sleep... and they get three. Only.
i used to severely restrict my eating and always thought about food - in the morning, trying to convince myself to not eat; in the afternoon, about whether i should have my single meal of the day (usually like a bowl of cereal, oatmeal, or just an egg or banana); and at night, what i would do the next day and when i would eat. still recovering from this mindset and i still think obsessively about food and tbh i miss when i didn't think so much about what i was eating
I'm on a bit of a fast but worst part is stress that actually makes me more hungry. As I can admit is a bit of a comfort after stress. When that happens I just have something to eat and that's me for the day.
Cannibalism becomes more acceptable to people starving because the body starts to shut down not only organs, but also the part of the brain that generates rational thought
In China, the government forced many farmers to work on factories to expedite the process of becoming a power house of production. All in the name of growth to become something other than a third world country. Unfortunately the country suffered from millions of deaths due to a lack of food production. It became common for families to sell their children for food, or to even cannibalized their loved ones. Those in power concluded that the country doesn’t need that many people to succeed anyways. So they did little to change the system.
Humans are barely capable of rational thought, mostly rational thoughts are those thoughts that our personal masters will accept which is mere politics, not rationality.
I'm at the end of a 14 day fast (no food, just water). I do think constantly about food, and i can confirm that while my mood is even, its like theres no more joy...i dont laugh at the usual things i would..and things just seem so much more tedious than before. Though,i am able to be with people and chat with them while they eat. I dont get angry at them for leaving food behind or anything like that, afterall, in my case, i am the one that choose to do this to myself and I can eat whenever I want. It sucks that there's people that don't have a choice to eat whenever they want and the proper amount.
As someone who has competed in a couple of bodybuilding shows, I absolutely agree with the information on the refeeding process. When I am prepping for a show, my caloric intake drops tremendously over time as I get closer to the day I step on the stage. In fact truth is, the day before the show I eat the least amount of food I will ever eat, literally sitting at roughly 1240 calories. The few days after the competition I undergo a refeeding process, which is some of the hardest things to do. My body got so used to not eating, that eating decent amounts of meals becomes almost impossible. Literally eating like a big Buffet meal after a competition is highly not recommended.
this is so sad they preyed on altruism and caring about other ppl and wanting to help them and literally weren’t even compensated for their struggles. some of these people may have irreparable permanent brain damage from all that deficiency. it’s sad how so many after discovering how bad it got fell into the sunken cost fallacy even after all that. my heart weeps for all brave and compassionate souls who decided to involve themselves for the betterment of others.
When I was basic training for the Marine Corps i noticed some of these symptoms, albeit on a much milder level then the subjects in the study. Being naturally very skinny I had never cared much for fatty meats such as bacon or ribeye steak and if I would eat something like bacon it was always crispy and I would wipe off the grease. But around a month in basic I started craving things like I never had before, the fat and grease from bacon especially and I found myself dreaming about going to chow and getting served fatty bacon. I also craved foods like candy and cakes and ice cream and when we finally got liberty after the crucible I gorged myself on a whole pizza and two energy drinks and a nauseating amount of candy😂. I felt so sick but overwhelming content and once I got out of boot camp I gorged myself on any and all food(even foods that I had never liked before) for about two months and gained around 20ibs. As an American who never had to worry about starving I can’t imagine having to starve for such a long period of time and really makes you think about people that starve against their will during times of war or famine.
As someone with an ed i know that food changes the way you see life i feel so disconnected and moody i cant imagine how bad it must be for poor starving people 😟
During the worst and longest depressive episode in my life (which is still kinda ongoing but I’ve taken some baby steps forward) I could not eat. I was starving because I just couldn’t stomach any food. I survived on a couple bites of whatever non filling foods every day, literally only a couple bites a day. The thing is that after some time, when I had been starving for a while, food consumed my every thought. I wanted to eat so bad, I fantasized binging the most yummy foods. The problem was that my body wouldn’t let me. Every single bite I took resulted in the despair intensifying greatly, I even had to be careful with drinking water since too much would also send me spiraling down really fast, no matter how thirsty or hungry I was. And now, even though I’m eating somewhat normally, I still have some leftover effects of the starvation. Whenever I eat too late, instead of kind of accumulating over some time, the signs of starvation appear almost immediately. I learned to be thankful for my appetite and ability to eat. If I want to eat something then I eat it, because I can. I want everyone to realize how amazing it is not to have to worry about appetite and food and such. Enjoy your meals, happy eating😊
It was a similar story for me for some reason since childhood I didn't eat as much as I should've. I ate 3 meals s day and looks of snacks etc growing up, but I was always so thin I had a starving belly like the starving kids in Africa had, but not as big. As a child to 17, I ate 3 meals on time going to school. I don't start eating late meals or even skipping meals once or twice until college nd I was warned. But I was always skinny with a starving belly fat before I started eating late meals. I heard I was so skinny because my dad was a heavy smoker, who heartbreakingly passed away 5 years ago. But it never explained me being so skinny to the point of belly fat before I started eating late meals, I continued eating meals late in my early 20s and now mid 30s. I started eating meals on time in my mid 20s but the belly fat more thinness never went v away. I also ate lots of snacks. Now I try to eat my meals on time but I slipped again during work, where i move around a lot. I'm 5' and 80lb. I have been since Fishkill. I have less access to snacks, but I'm trying to intake more calories and nutrient v rich foods like nuts, fruits, bananas. I'm going to find a lot of snacks too. This vid explains why I liked cooking stuff a lot, nd thought I'd like being an Event specialist. I was obsessed with food. But I'd still only binge on cookies after watching cooking stuff or writing as an Event Specialist for 5 hours.
I had my jaw wired shut for 6 weeks from a broken jaw. I was starving, lost 50 lbs. I remember watching my family eat and I felt like a dog just wanting that food so bad 😂 I dreamt about food and thought about it a lot. Starvation is terrible.
Yeah that’s maybe the saddest part: the brochures made these grand moral pronouncements. But all that happened was, a bunch of very conscientious people were crushed for the ‘insight’ that starvation is debilitating , which science knew already
As someone who has been semi starving my entire life to the benefit of nobody I can honestly say I would participate in a study like this if it would help people
unfortunately they need people who are quote unquote normal at baseline We, psychological outliers, don't provide an accurate approximation of what happens to a "normal" person. Some of us maintain semi-starvation for a decade or more. Many would have been throwing rocks at sparrows by that point; our "adaptation" is valuable for study but your mental health comes first. In the '40s the Forces routinely destroyed their servicemen and disposed of em, we still do it today.
I’m sad to say that you probably couldn’t enter a study like that because it could be you just have a low metabolism or some other physical of mental issue and they are studying what happens when they have people that are involuntarily starving thus having a voluntary participant wouldn’t give them the results needed if that makes sense??
you either are biologically capable of eating less or you have a mental condition that makes you eat less, they need people who are Statistically normal everyday. People with no mental or physical problems as a baseline experiment. Control
I have chronic pancreatitis. I couldn’t eat anything for a long while. After close to a month I could have a spoonful of plain yogurt. I dreamt about whoppers and other food. It was intense. I think I needed the Percocet at the time more for the hunger pains than the pancreatitis.
Oh I should mention. I had a ritz cracker when I could finally start eating food again, just tiny amounts. The ritz was the first solid thing I’d eaten in a long while. It was the saltiest, butteriest, best thing I’d ever had. It was so flavorful I could’ve sworn it was given to me by God himself.
Thabks bud, I appreciate it. I’ll always have pancreas problems and be a diabetic due to it but it could be worse. I’m thankful to be alive after it happened. 👍
@@joshuawesteros5345 That's actually a good way to listen to our body what it needs. It can tell us through taste. It is naturally expressed by what we are in the mood for and what we cannot stand anymore after having had it for too long, since diversification lowers risk of deficiencies. As for your various ailments, the channel "Dr. Eric Berg DC" has tons of helpful healthy diet info you can browse for whatever topic you like and while it might not be the ultimate truth, it can help understand how to empower the body to become the most healthy. Maybe you can even transfer the tips to your special situation. Sometimes not eating, whether coerced or out of lack of appetite, can actually be helpful for boosting healing, provided that the body has all the necessary micronutrients.
I hate how people treat the homeless , theyre often told that they dont deserve anything because of the choices they make but go as long as then without food or shelter and tell me you’re still a rational thinking person i bet you cant
After knowing I can't do certain things. I can sympathize with some of them. As it is hard unless you go to gym or train. Some of these things aren't easy.
Well not all homeless people have the same personalities, same with non-homeless people. Some are twats and rude, some are nice. Out of those options who would you rather help? Does rational thinking constitute being a crappy person or a decent one?
I was born to poverty and difficulty. Not much has changed really. Starvation was ever prevalent and its effects are terrible on both mind and body. The perpetuate splitting headaches, the depression, the rage. Every single day. My joints screamed, I was fatigued and starved for sleep. I felt different from all those around me. I was different. They could laugh, they could play. They could leave uneaten food on their pig ridden plates. I still feel rage when I see uneaten food. I have nothing and appreciate everything. Others take everything for granted. Almost like seeing a garage filled with junk and the car sits outside. Imbeciles. The effects of starvation have likely ruined me. I have no interest in dating. Only working, making money, snowboarding, and cooking. I have a cabinet full of cook books from video game universes like Skyrim to fallout. My parties are making elaborate dinners from video game universes and serving them to guests. I will finish by saying I once went 3 days without food. My first meal that time was an apple. I ate it, core, seeds and all.
If you can find a healthy balance, that would be ideal. Brief fasting phases can be very beneficial to health, so if you can remember that, maybe that eases on the urge a bit. Several times in recent years I fasted for 4-5 days while doing performance sports daily and felt great and not hungry. It cleaned any messed up baggage from the body, like misformed proteins and all that. Memory improved noticeably. Currently after a phase of eating more than I probably needed, I naturally went into a phase of interval fasting where I eat (as always) not before hunger occurs and then in a 3-5 hours window and that's it for the day. That leaves the body with the maximum daily time of not having to digest food but go into elevated self-repair. Remember that fear traumas rule and dominate our life until we find purpose in life through defying them by gently finding back to a serene balance. We send what we are into the world, so when we heal ourselves, we also heal the world. And lately it has become particularly obvious how much humankind needs healing from fear traumas.
I had ED that led me to periods when i starved myself just to know if i can handle it. One of these episodes i decided to eat nothing for approximately a week, only allowing myself to drink one sweet coffee a day and of course water. I knew i should stop this when i went to drink water and couldn't stop, all i was thinking about was water cure torture, i thought if i felt pain because of how much water is inside of me i wouldn't feel hunger anymore Ended up wiping the floors because i accidentally threw up all that water while walking
If you hadn't vomited, you'd probably shit it out within the hour. I once worked a long hot day without drinking much of anything. Came home absolutely parched and drank about 2/3 of a gallon of water in just a couple minutes. Felt nauseous but did not vomit. However, about 40 minutes later I suddenly felt like I was going to crap my pants, made it to the toilet, and promptly evacuated about 2/3 gallon of faintly shit tinted water.
They deserve to have "COWARD" tattooed on their faces. The women who volunteered for service are FAR more deserving of recognition than a bunch of cowards using religion to weasel out of service. While millions suffered FAR worse food and conditions these clowns got to ride out in comfort in Minneapolis. Stow the medal BS...please...its nauseating.
I've been practicing intermittent fasting for a few years now, using it as a way to challenge myself mentally and manage my weight. I've tried week-long water fasts (only water, no other food) and gone through months of daily 24-hour fasts (just one meal a day), creating a calorie deficit of around 1000 calories per day. I can totally relate to what's being discussed here - the constant thoughts about food that never seem to fade away. It's like your mind is always fixated on your next meal, and it can even lead to doubting yourself and coming up with excuses to give up, the amount of suffering these men went through cannot be undertated.
I remember when i deprived my eating in order to lose weight. I lost like 20kgs and it was also the results of heavy workouts because it was my primary goal at that moment. I remember eating even a chocolate was a huge guilt for me. Now a year after i work in stressful job and my sleep patterns are broke down, and i gained back 12kg however i eat whatever i want ofcourse without exaggerating it and i can tell that, eating whatever you like is one of the most undervalued things in the life.
I've done this before just to save money, it didn't drive me over the edge but I could definitely see the edge. I haven't been that hard up for cash for about 10 years now but when I'd finally had enough of it after almost a year I only weighed 125 lbs. My healthy weight is 150 to 160, I think these guys went harder though. I wouldn't do it again, I think I'm perma-phuked now because a lot of phantom nerve pain and stomach issues are still cropping up even though I eat well and stay in shape. Oh well, I bought a house with that hustle so it was a fair enough trade.
As an ex pre professional ballet dancer in training, with anorexia. I had gone through that, I am currently still coming back to my senses. My hunger levels are slowly decreasing, and I no longer restrict my calories. I try eating as healthy as possible though.
Anybody who has struggled with an eating disorder related to these symptoms on a personal level. I can’t believe I ever put myself through this willingly - there is so much more to live for.
I once went about two days barely eating with a lot of activity. During the end I noticed that my sense of smell intensified like 10 times out of nowhere .It was trippy. I was about a mile away from a chinese restaurant and I could just smell their fryer that far away.
I know what you mean. I’m struggling with an eating disorder. I try to get better and never go longer than 3 days without eating. Still my sense of smell is incredible.
(ED trigger warning for anyone who cares to read) This is eerily similar to my experience with anorexia nervosa in the past. Monotonous meals become easier to enjoy and food is all your mind can think of. The part about the men binge eating, or “cheating”, is very common and hard to deal with especially in recovery period. To think these willing participants were given two meals a day to eat and experienced such psychological horrors is terrifying, as I consumed a lot less. I can’t imagine what damage that’s done to my body over time
Hey! The video was great (as always) and I really appreciate you speaking about this subject, as it's extremely interesting. Moreover, I unfortunately have my own experience with starvation as I was diagnosed with anorexia 2 years ago and I can surerly say that not only the starvation but the refeeding faze as well as just horrible, but I still cannot imagine what these men went through just for the sake of an experiment.
Surprised to see a guy with as much talent as you getting such low recognition. Haven't watched the video yet, but I just wanted to say that your videos in general cover very interesting topics and you have a great narrator voice! Keep up the good work, man!
I still remember back when i was around 14/15 i could go two weeks on single toast with a bit of meat, a slice of tomato and a bit of mozzarella. Its not because i was anorexic or anything like this. I was just hella suicidal, to the point that i stoped feeling hunger (i know that sounds wrong, but like for real, i would eat single toast, and for next two weeks i could not feel hunger. I was eating when i was feeling hungry and not based om some schedule.). My sleep schedule was also quite fucked then, i could go with about 14 hours sleep per week, at some point i started to wonder "how im still alive? I dont eat, i dont sleep, i just drink water.". To be honest i dont think i could be able to do it nowdays, nowdays the longest i can go on a single toast is about two days, and when it comes to sleep i need at least 4 hours, not 2 hours like i did back in the day. (But then back in the day i got 2 hours sleep per day, but not all at once, i had a polyphasic sleep schedule, meaning i didint sleep 2h at once, but something like 30 minutes 4 times per day. Polyphasic sleep is also knows as davincis naps.)
I also would like to mention that at that time i had so little "active time" as possible, i just walked to the bus, from bus to school, then from school to bus and then from bus home. I had headphones with music on like 20h per day, and i was "in my head" all the time. To be honest, now when i look back at that time, even tho that mentally that was one of the lowest points in my life, i would love to go back to that time. If i could relive that time with my current knowledge, i would still do it the same way.
And before anyone asks, 185cm and about 55-65kg. Now days i walk about 15k steps per day (sometimes more), and i try to exercise daily. Still i dont eat on a schedule, rather on the feeling of hunger, sometimes it can occur once per day and other times multiple times per day. I dont have any health problems because of it, but i still wouldnt recommend it to any one (im no nutritionist, nor i have any deeper knowledge regarding that topic, i just know what works good for me.)
I water-fast for 10 days straight every 3 months, and never had any of the symptoms mentioned here. In fact I feel so much better after the 3rd day, your "need" for food dies out as your digestive system shuts down and goes in a survival/maintenance mode.
When I was younger, I used to live with my alcoholic father who never really cared about us. As a result, I would always feel hungry and to this day, I tend to steal food and eat excessively, fearing that I might not have another chance to eat. Although it's not rational, I still have this urge to binge eat because I feel like I need to hoard food for later. Even though I know that food won't disappear, I am always in a state of anxiety and fear when it comes to food.
The most vivid hallucinations I ever experienced where from my eating disorder. It literally got to where I was blurring reality with things that where not happening. The mind is quite scary
I went psychotic after starving for months, lost all feelings. After awhile i lost all thoughts and urge to eat. My mental state mostly recoverd. Getting back the feeling back to eat or stomach food was the longest and intense effort. I dont mind eating and drinking now but i have to remind myself most times. It permanently messes with you. Regardless of unintentionally or not
The mental problems caused by starvation are part of what make eating disorder recovery so difficult. By the time the patient is at a low weight, not only are they suffering from the eating disorder but also mental disturbance from being so thin. They don't have the mental strength to get better alone, and they don't believe that eating will make them feel better. It's really a touch situation. Then refeeding syndrome starts and causes all sorts of problems
As someone who went through some bad disordered eating habits throughout my late junior high to early high school years, these study results hit differently. Obsessing over food is no joke; every thought I had that didn't pertain to school simply revolved around food and how I could be in control of not only it, but myself too. Watching other people eat their food, looking up recipes online, waiting for specific times to eat just a tiny portion of food and even installing coloring apps on my phone just to color pictures of food took up a lot of my time. My personality changed so much too; it only took something small to make my temper rocket out of control. People picking apart my eating habits ESPECIALLY made me snappy and furious. I'm so thankful that time of my life is done and through now, but I'll never forget it or the effects it left on my mentality and body. It's absolutely terrifying to see what starvation does to a person and it makes me so sad to think that there are still many people out there who go through even a fraction of this horror. The Minnesota Starvation experiment taught us many important lessons about us and our bodies, and what these men went through was absolutely horrifying
As a recovering anorexic, I can confirm that there's a certain point of malnutrition where you just start having full-blown psychotic breaks. For me, it's always been casual, mundane interactions - physical proximity, long conversations, trading quips + humour, etc. - with _hallucinations_ of ppl I'm close to, during times when I would later learn they'd been _verifiably_ present somewhere else. And even though those particular episodes had been non-threatening - _even dull_ - the dawning comprehension that I was losing the ability to distinguish between reality + illusion would always make my blood run cold. That chilling horror that I was quantifiably losing my mind has usually been a major mental turning point for me to acknowledge I've needed to start trying to get better, again. (If anyone has any questions about the intricacies of experiencing starvation that aren't answered in the vid, I'm happy to answer.)
I once did a 500 kcal per day diet for 4 weeks while working in a bakery. I dont know what drove me to do that, it was utterly insane, i lost 17 kilos in 4 weeks before collapsing, mind you i didn't have a car license yet so i drove the 16 km to work on a bicycle.
@@Anthracite_coal might wanna check on that , one cooked egg has 56-90 kcal depending on size (source google). so if you can live almost a year on 5-7 cooked eggs, you probably could solve world hunger my dude :)
@@kdraw7178 ah I was just making fun of kilocalories, a 90 kcal egg would have some kind of quantum efficiency magic shit going on there. Imagine the sheer density of that egg, 90,000 cal there.
My stomach is paralyzed. I cannot eat food or drink most liquids without medication. It took a year for me to learn how to consume calories without throwing up. I was overweight when i got sick. I lost over 100 pounds. It was a hellish nightmare. Being in starvation mode for that has permanently scarred me and something im still working through in therapy. I am glad i lost that weight, but not like that. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy
I had a hard time as a kid. My family and I were not able to eat all the time. I have an eating disorder now. The psychological effects of food in relation to the body should be studied more. Starving isn’t the only instigator of the madness, clearly.
This reminds me of one of the most ironic historical twists I have ever heard of (and one not widely known). I'm sure you have all heard of the Donner Party (if so, skip this paragraph) they were American pioneers (led by the Donner family and consisting of about a dozen families, 87 in total, half children) who migrated west to California from the Midwest. After leaving late for their journey, they took a less traveled shortcut that was actually a longer route and ended up snowbound in the extremely harsh winter of 1846-1847, in the Sierra Nevada mountain range. They were stranded for five months in heIIish, abominable conditions (one of the coldest winters on record, w/ an 18 ft. peak snowfall!) When their food ran out, survival kicked in and a pact was made among the 45 survivors to cannibaIize those who perished, with a rule of not consuming one's own kin. Half did so, the others continued eating boiled bark. Out of the 81 members stranded, 47 survived, the oldest and youngest perished. *One can only imagine the pain and suffering they endured stranded for 5 months in some of the harshest conditions imaginable, so, it is not just tragic but ironic asf that an 18 y.o. boy named William Hook survived the starvation, only to die from eating too much a day after getting rescued!!* No, he didn't burst. Eating too quickly (too much food too fast) can cause what's known as "Refeeding Syndrome" where the swift reintroduction of food back to the body will cause severe electrolyte disturbances that can have myriad effects on the body, such as seizures, heart failure, coma and death. When William was brought to the camp erected to house and rehabilitate the survivors, he broke into a locked shed housing food supplies. When the woman running the camp saw him sitting on the ground outside the shed eating the stolen food, she called out his name and told him to stop, at that point William stopped, turned around while still seated on the floor and collapsed dead before saying a word. How this isn't more well known, is beyond me. If curious...out of almost a dozen families, only two made it without losing any members...the Reeds and the Breens (the Reeds never resorted to cannibaIism). All corpses died naturally, except for two Miwok Indian guides (Luis and Salvador) murdered by hunger-crazed William Foster who sh0t them in the head (with a few others butchered the bodies). *If the numbers don't add up: 87 started the journey, 81 got stranded. 45 survivors at the camp during the pact, but 15 left prior to get help (out of which 7 survived).*
I had a period of time where I lived on my own and got very sick. I was in bed for 4-6 days that I couldn't get up to. Hard to tell because I was kind of in and out of it. I only sipped on water here and there. When I finally was able to start walking around I was so hungry I bought a case of ramen pack at the store. A pack I had never eaten before. When I ate it, it was so good. It was like the best thing I've ever had. I ate multiple packs in a row. As time went by and I was able to eat again I forgot about the case of ramen on top of my fridge. Several months later, I was moving out of my apartment and came across the case of ramen. I remember how delicious it was and so I made myself a pack. No sooner had I taken a bite of my bowl of ramen I gaged. It was so horrible tasting. So bad I couldn't stomach it and threw out the entire leftover case.
I put myself through a water diet for a month (made it to 2 and a half weeks) day 3 was a brutal hurdle because my brain was only focusing on where I could find food and I grew immensely irritable because food was there but I was willingly not eating. After week one I noticed some improvement and it was actually really easy to get through the days without thinking about food. Start of week 2 I started to notice I could smell everyone’s food and that started to mess with me a bit I won’t lie. Still things were easy and I could still keep going. What got me was that Wednesday of week 3………we had a company celebration for a good month (ironic as we went bankrupt a few months later) but the delivery was late and I remember smelling the food from the place we catered and I could feel myself slipping. What got me was going to the break room to fill my water jug and seeing the spread and HR handing me a loaded plate. I ate but quickly realized as good as it tasted eating again felt weird. I was actually supposed to ease my way back into eating with fruit but instead I had a full meal. A couple weeks of eating I almost convinced myself to stop because I didn’t like the way eating felt. But I pushed those thoughts back and kept going because I didn’t want to end up with an eating disorder or something like that. It was interesting to go through though for sure. I’d probably do it again but at least this time I would be better prepared and understand a bit more.
The most humane US government study in the 50s-70s
😂😂😂
I wouldn't assume they have become any better since.
Having Kinsey's experiments and some others, true...
@@robdixson196They're not running psyop information war campaigns aimed at black Americans.
Those guys who ate when they weren't supposed to had NOT lost the ability to behave rationally. They were doing the most rational thing they could have possibly done.
Anyway, this study shows us one reason that the thinking of anorexics is so crazy.
Another thing that happened in this study was that the men found that healthy looking bodies looked fat to them. It’s the brains coping mechanism with being malnourished, which is why anorexics tend to judge others bodies a lot. It’s not because they are dumb, or wrong, it’s because their brains are literally showing themselves and other people as fatter than they are to psychologically protect them from the distress.
As an anorexic this comment is funny af
@@zeynepkullebi4034I hope you're getting help. I used to be anorexic. If you really try and stay strong I promise you can beat this.
@@zeynepkullebi4034 as a skeleton this entire video was hilar, no cap fr
omg they didn’t get paid that’s INSANE…
Still in the money hamster wheel, eh?
@@kaptainkabul9499uhh what?
It was for the war effort
@@kaptainkabul9499🤡
As a wrestler that cuts weight five months out of the year the thoughts and feelings they were having is definitely real. The dinner story where they would be mad at people who didn’t eat hit so close.
Calm down Gordon Ryan, don't throw a temper tantrum
@@Justbecause7777It is true
Growing up in a rather poor household. I, too, get a little mad at people *wasting* food, to this day.
I didn’t grow up with a disorder just a mom who didn’t feed me and my brothers. We ate maybe once or twice a week. There’s a feeling indescribable when you find out people get three meals a day. To this day I can easily go a day without eating. I don’t now. I saw people at school complain about the food. I couldn’t get enough of it. I used to watch cartoons and just gaze at the big chicken drums they had.
Damn thats sad but are u good now?
@@darpan2161 oh yea I’m 19 years old eating very good now that I have my own job. The problem is I walk into stores now and don’t know what to get since I didn’t have that choice as a kid. But yea I’m all good now I’m grateful for the hard times I had I wouldn’t be who I am today.
I feel you sometimes I only eat once a day or not at all at time glade I just started my new job
… really fucking wild… sorry…
This breaks my heart knowing there are people who starve in life while I stuff my face not being completely grateful for what I have.
Ikr! This kinda stuff breaks my heart too, so much so that I will even eat again but not for myself - for those starving. Bless them
@BlackoPl21 So sad 😭.
Yeah I should fell bad for every thing bad on earth alone
as a person who has suffered from prolonged starvation. it is one of the worst experiences fathomable.
As a person who suffered with disordered eating I can relate to so many things that reminded me of what I felt when I was at my lowest. I'm so glad I recovered 💌
You deserve to be very proud of yourself! I'm happy for you
I'm so gad you recovered too.
this literally describes what it feels like to have an eating disorder, but in an eating disorder you can't just "stop the experiment" cuz if you eat you'll feel so guilty and anxious and worried, it's exhausting.
real
@anasdomain9994yea I feel really terrible for her. But also, I still think she knows what she's doing lol. she can profit off of people who fetishize her. Not to mention tons of young girls envying her body, which she posts in revealing clothes often. Recovering from anorexia isn't something that can happen easily, but glamorizing it on the internet so publicly could probably stop whenever she wanted it to. (Honestly blame her mom for it all tho, enabling her and not protecting her from herself. She should've gotten her daughter help sooner. Breaks my heart for Eugenia
I had anorexia and thankfully I did stop. It was the year 2004 and I did MDMA and on the come down I looked in the mirror and saw how skinny I actually was. It was like a filter was lifted and I could see what I actually looked like and that day forth I was no longer anorexic. It was the only time I’ve done MDMA and it might of saved my life.
I just wanna add that I felt no guilt nor anxiety. I was glowing and felt renewed. I’m sure it wouldn’t work for everyone but it was pretty damn amazing.
I had a major ED. I’m talking 93lbs, 12 bmi, less than 6% body fat. The starvation wasn’t the worst part, because of ketosis. It was the healing, just as this study showed. I developed severe anxiety, OCD, and BPD. Had to go to occupational therapy for three years, and am still on medication. While I’m reaching a normal weight now, I still have to deal with the after effects of Anorexia.
My bet is your teeth will be the biggest problem and most expensive
When my eating disorder was at peak, I limited myself just a measly 450 calories a day. I felt exactly like these men did. All I thought about was food, every second of the day. Thats no exaggeration, every moment I was awake, and even in dreams, food consumed all my thoughts, desires, hopes, fears and excitements. It was a nightmarish way to live. I got down to 95 pounds and would lose control like some of these men did and couldn't stop myself from eating, though it stayed mostly anorexia and not a binge eating disorder. It made me lose my sanity as well. One of the few videos on this channel in which I can unfortunately understand the pain.
It reminds me during the days my eating disorders were at peak. I would limit myself eating only around 1200 calories a day, no sugar, just greens a small morsels of lean meat + a boiled egg. It reached a point I was so obsessed with food I would have so much conflicting thoughts and I would spend hours daydreaming about food and how to get rid of calories by exercising just to insert a few morsels. It became exhausting, I feel lost and disconnected and what I think all the time is food. During that time I was also doing intermittent fasting, sometimes one meal only in a day. Each minute I would stare at the clock and can’t wait for the time to finally eat my meal since I felt really hungry and deprived. In time, the tolls of hunger hit me and I went on a binge eating a tub of ice cream, 2 large burgers and a box of pizza with 1L of soda. Feeling guilty afterwards, I purged everything out by forcing myself to vomit it. It then went to a cycle of purging and binging until I decided to get help since I know Im really fucking myself not only physically but mentally.
That sounds like a horrible situation. I hope you are doing better now 🙏
This was me too, a few years ago
I’m 5’2” and went from 172 to115lbs in a very sickly way. 900 calories a day, watched sugars/calories. Paced around my house (I was 17-18 at the time) to burn calories. Now I’m 150 and weightlift three times a week
Now it’s protein counting and I’ve gotten over my eating disorder but the struggle continues.
woah. it's interesting how differently people act when having an eating disorder. i have anorexia nervosa and i usually i just drink milk tea or lattes multiple times (as meals i guess?), but sometimes i'd eat solid foods like toast or fruit. abut i never felt that daydreaming of food and going crazy of hunger, instead i'd go crazy whenever i ate more than i feel comfortable with, like for example a whole burger etc, that i'd end up purging it (forcing myself to puke it out). food never gives me a happy feeling, more like regret and feeling pathetic after a meal. most extreme case i ate 3 whole pizza slices and the guilt i felt was so overwhelming that i didn't eat and drink anything other than water for 10 days (starved). i'm doing better now though thankfully :)
@@bingbong6323same... My limit was 300-500 calories a week for nearly a year consistently, and then on n off for the next 6 years but only now at 25 i kinda developed binge eating (i'd eat till i gag/puke in my mouth, and sometimes i even start blacking out if i skipped ONE meal in a day) however if i end up broke or was able to avoid sweet food for quite some time then i can eat normally for a while. But still, it took years for that to happen whereas this experiment only took weeks n not exactly with "starving" amounts of food...
Me too 😢
If you give a starving person 4000 calories, they may actually die in some severe cases of re-feeding syndrome.
@@anshlalwanilol
A lot survivors of the Holocaust died like this when they were finally given lots of food after they were freed from the concentration camps. Such an awful way to die.
It depends on the amount of salt, fluid and electrolytes they are depleted of.
As someone who suffers from an ED i can personally tell you that starvation is a type of hell I wouldn’t wish on the most deplorable of society. I am absolutely terrified of the recovery process as I’ve heard the horror stories of re-eating but I hope to be on the road to recovery soon here.
@NeoStefwhat and how often do you eat to do thath?
I promise you recovery is worth it
Whats ur sex performance have to do with this?
As a person with an ED,this really hits close to home. I usually eat under 500calories a day or intermittent fast. The cookbook thing is so true. I bake and cook for my whole family everyday,and i watch them eat the food. I count the amount of calories other people from my class eat everyday and then compare myself (especially my body) to them. I learned the exact amount of calories in each and every single type of food,from fruits,to veggies to sweets and even breads... I went from a girl who was often described as calm and patient to a person who was easily irritated and angry at people. I've lost my period and my teen horniness in the span of 2-3 months i think? I used to do lots of extreme stuff just so that i can burn the extra calories that i may have eaten (or when i see the number on the scale not going down everyday). I once carried a 6kg(15lbs) watermelon after me for 8km(5 miles) in the middle of a summer day so that i could lose weight faster and understand what 6kg means. My taste in food has changed too: i went from a general foodie to an absolute food devourer whenever i'm having an OMAD. I even went at some point to fantasize about getting locked up and beaten so that i could starve and get all skinny and boney. I sometimes look at small kids on the streets and become envious of their legs (i have the fattest fucking thighs ever). I sh and let the blood drain out so that the i can feel lighter. I've even formed a small tic of touching my ribs just to feel the bones protrude through me. i fantasize about being all skin and bones,of no longer having a body;a physical self. I genuinely don''t want to be percieved anymore.
sounds deeply disturbing, please reach out for help.
Please get some help the way you torturing yourself is brutal
What?!!! This is definitely not normal and very worrying and disturbing. Seek help immediately 😭
I would eat i think
I have anorexia. I've gone through periods of loosing and gaining weight for years now. I've gone days without eating, I've given myself severe vitamin deficiencies. My body is ruined and will never be the same.
Binging can last from one episode to months. I've had times I've binged until the scale was 10-20lbs heavier than I was in the morning. Putting on 22lbs within 3 weeks kinda bullshit. You cant control yourself during a binge, I would fight anyone who tried to stop me from clearing the pantry.
I didnt choose to have this, anorexia is a result of you trying to cope with trauma by gaining control over food.
I did a month’s worth of this during aircrew survival course, first two weeks in a semi jungle setting, we got food for 3 times a day, starting the second week they gradually put us to a 2 times a day eat schedule, on the 3rd week swamp setting, just once a day and we eat snails (belitong) , and for the fourth week jungle setting, no food, i just drink river water for 7 days whilst making a rower and wove rope from dried tree bark, during the third week all we think was food, our conversation revolves around the restaurants we’d like to go, after the fourth week is done we got a day for isolation training, they left us in a designated area alone and we have to keep lighting the fire using whatever in our surroundings, the day they gave us porridge and magically all our thoughts of food disappear, can’t eat spicy food for three days, but we ate spicy chicken and collectively have diarrhea 😂. 10/10, would never do again 😅.
i also stopped eating spicy food for two weeks when i went to a country with non-spicy cuisine. after coming home and eating spicy skewers, i had the worst stomachache of my life 🤣
this comment was so needed and it randomly answered something for me. (the spicy food part) thanks for leaving this comment. You did well on that. creditz
do you mind if I put it on LinkedIn (ill explain)
@@emuejevoke5760 Sure buddy 👍🏼.
I was a starved orphan in 90s Romania and even as an adult I’m protective of my food, and take a bunch at a time. It’s not active, my mom pointed it out over the years. I eventually got adopted, but for the first mb 5-10 years, in elementary school, I’d still eat out of trash n off the floor. Hell the other kids threw stuff on the floor to watch me eat it. I realized that part as I got older. Of course it stays with you. If I didn’t get adopted I would’ve died I was that bad off. To this day I fucking hate when people waste food or eat a ridiculous amount. When I first came to America, I loved watching Julia Child’s cooking show. Mb that’s why? I used to steal food too. When I got adopted I never stopped eating, mom asked my dr and he said keep feeding her, she is catching up.
@cincin4515least USA hating non American luhmao
Ceausescu's horde of tigani reproducing uncontrollably - the result of terrible natality incentives Sorry you had to go through it. .
I still have a temptation to go into trash cans for food when i get hungry
I've had eating disorders; anorexia, bulimia, binge eating. But NOTHING compared to when I was violently ill while pregnant. I didn't eat anything for 7 weeks and I couldn't keep water down either. I was so malnourished and loosing my mind I dreamt of my Greek family shoving food down my throat, and I would eat green grapes and watermelon they were the best to throw up. I was the worst. I can't imagine going 6 months without any food 😢
I had an abortion and I'm still feeling shitty as fuck like 5 years later
I had hyperemesis gravidarium during pregnancy. It was hell. I know of a few women who’s organs started shutting down because they couldn’t keep food down.
@@jupiterwillow9618 I’m sorry I was in California… The MMJ community definitely helped with those symptoms during the first trimester… There’s an extract in honey that’s used in the Jamaican islands and a whole medical study that was done on it. I pray the best for you
this just shows how grateful we should be when it comes to food
As a person who has had (and is currently recovering) from a restrictive eating disorder (anorexia nervous), I find this highly unsettlingly relatable. In refeeding, the mere craving if food drives me insane and the constant ravenous sensation devours me. I'm not able to go a couple of days without self harm or feeling so weak that I could bare get out of bed. May god bless everyone suffering from an eating disorder or in famine ❤
Im struggling the same way
The participants were very selfless and brave. They chose to do this for others despite the war being a hard time for them as well. I could never throw myself into such a kind of suffering. Too bad they didn't receive the proper treatment from the government. Their physical and mental health were scarred for life.
I don't have a speck of sympathy for them, even less from knowing the details of the front line troops. And even FAR worse was the treatment of Allied prisoners by the Japanese. No.. these "conscientious objectors" are cowards and their so-called "ordeal" was NOTHING compared to what the real heroes and non-cowards had to endure. Minus 100 below zero sympathy for them.
@@daneaxe6465 So, what? Some small percentage of dudes didn't want to die for their country just so others could survive. Not a bad trade IMO, I'd rather stick it out with my family at this point in life, especially with the way the government is now.
@@daneaxe6465 You try starving and stop taking your privilege for granted.
A. You'll likely die for some reason or another because you did try.
B. You'll likely pussy out on day four because you're more talk than action and you think it's cowardly to starve yourself, when in reality, it's cowardly to have fed yourself through immoral means, such as theft. Do not call it cowardly when 'observers' still experienced what's tantamount to a LOT of people's entire lives, including childhood, where kids never even made it to teens, let alone adulthood. You still being alive is not a blessing, it's not a right, it's simply your circumstances stacked against stronger people, who would do your entire life twice as well and twice as intellectually, having endured what you cannot.
C. You definitely didn't starve, nearly die, nor were you chained in some basement to become a mere progeny for bastard children. You had a good life in relation to so many others. No, it's not cowardly what these people did... it's taken for granted, but it's not cowardly. They demonstrated and nobody learned. People still struggle and the experiment ultimately advanced a small part of science that goes untouched.
You were spanked? That's cute. You have nine hours of sleep... and they get three. Only.
Ancel Keys was a nutjob, I wouldn't expect they were serving any purpose other than giving him a boner about their ribs and scrawny thighs.
i used to severely restrict my eating and always thought about food - in the morning, trying to convince myself to not eat; in the afternoon, about whether i should have my single meal of the day (usually like a bowl of cereal, oatmeal, or just an egg or banana); and at night, what i would do the next day and when i would eat. still recovering from this mindset and i still think obsessively about food and tbh i miss when i didn't think so much about what i was eating
I hate that I'm thinking of food so much while trying not to eat so much of it. Most annoying contradiction
I'm on a bit of a fast but worst part is stress that actually makes me more hungry. As I can admit is a bit of a comfort after stress. When that happens I just have something to eat and that's me for the day.
Cannibalism becomes more acceptable to people starving because the body starts to shut down not only organs, but also the part of the brain that generates rational thought
In China, the government forced many farmers to work on factories to expedite the process of becoming a power house of production. All in the name of growth to become something other than a third world country.
Unfortunately the country suffered from millions of deaths due to a lack of food production. It became common for families to sell their children for food, or to even cannibalized their loved ones.
Those in power concluded that the country doesn’t need that many people to succeed anyways. So they did little to change the system.
Humans are barely capable of rational thought, mostly rational thoughts are those thoughts that our personal masters will accept which is mere politics, not rationality.
I'm at the end of a 14 day fast (no food, just water). I do think constantly about food, and i can confirm that while my mood is even, its like theres no more joy...i dont laugh at the usual things i would..and things just seem so much more tedious than before. Though,i am able to be with people and chat with them while they eat. I dont get angry at them for leaving food behind or anything like that, afterall, in my case, i am the one that choose to do this to myself and I can eat whenever I want. It sucks that there's people that don't have a choice to eat whenever they want and the proper amount.
As someone who has competed in a couple of bodybuilding shows, I absolutely agree with the information on the refeeding process. When I am prepping for a show, my caloric intake drops tremendously over time as I get closer to the day I step on the stage. In fact truth is, the day before the show I eat the least amount of food I will ever eat, literally sitting at roughly 1240 calories. The few days after the competition I undergo a refeeding process, which is some of the hardest things to do. My body got so used to not eating, that eating decent amounts of meals becomes almost impossible. Literally eating like a big Buffet meal after a competition is highly not recommended.
this is so sad they preyed on altruism and caring about other ppl and wanting to help them and literally weren’t even compensated for their struggles. some of these people may have irreparable permanent brain damage from all that deficiency. it’s sad how so many after discovering how bad it got fell into the sunken cost fallacy even after all that. my heart weeps for all brave and compassionate souls who decided to involve themselves for the betterment of others.
This is such a serious matter but ngl I learned what altruist means from the last song in Hazbin 💀
well hey they were basically traitors because they opposed the war duh!
Compensated by not going to war, seems fair to me
God is great god is good thank you for creating the human that learned to season food
14:04 Average US government moment
When I was basic training for the Marine Corps i noticed some of these symptoms, albeit on a much milder level then the subjects in the study. Being naturally very skinny I had never cared much for fatty meats such as bacon or ribeye steak and if I would eat something like bacon it was always crispy and I would wipe off the grease. But around a month in basic I started craving things like I never had before, the fat and grease from bacon especially and I found myself dreaming about going to chow and getting served fatty bacon. I also craved foods like candy and cakes and ice cream and when we finally got liberty after the crucible I gorged myself on a whole pizza and two energy drinks and a nauseating amount of candy😂. I felt so sick but overwhelming content and once I got out of boot camp I gorged myself on any and all food(even foods that I had never liked before) for about two months and gained around 20ibs. As an American who never had to worry about starving I can’t imagine having to starve for such a long period of time and really makes you think about people that starve against their will during times of war or famine.
As someone with an ed i know that food changes the way you see life i feel so disconnected and moody i cant imagine how bad it must be for poor starving people 😟
During the worst and longest depressive episode in my life (which is still kinda ongoing but I’ve taken some baby steps forward) I could not eat. I was starving because I just couldn’t stomach any food. I survived on a couple bites of whatever non filling foods every day, literally only a couple bites a day.
The thing is that after some time, when I had been starving for a while, food consumed my every thought. I wanted to eat so bad, I fantasized binging the most yummy foods. The problem was that my body wouldn’t let me. Every single bite I took resulted in the despair intensifying greatly, I even had to be careful with drinking water since too much would also send me spiraling down really fast, no matter how thirsty or hungry I was.
And now, even though I’m eating somewhat normally, I still have some leftover effects of the starvation. Whenever I eat too late, instead of kind of accumulating over some time, the signs of starvation appear almost immediately.
I learned to be thankful for my appetite and ability to eat. If I want to eat something then I eat it, because I can. I want everyone to realize how amazing it is not to have to worry about appetite and food and such.
Enjoy your meals, happy eating😊
Tysm🥰
It was a similar story for me for some reason since childhood I didn't eat as much as I should've. I ate 3 meals s day and looks of snacks etc growing up, but I was always so thin I had a starving belly like the starving kids in Africa had, but not as big. As a child to 17, I ate 3 meals on time going to school. I don't start eating late meals or even skipping meals once or twice until college nd I was warned.
But I was always skinny with a starving belly fat before I started eating late meals. I heard I was so skinny because my dad was a heavy smoker, who heartbreakingly passed away 5 years ago.
But it never explained me being so skinny to the point of belly fat before I started eating late meals, I continued eating meals late in my early 20s and now mid 30s. I started eating meals on time in my mid 20s but the belly fat more thinness never went v away. I also ate lots of snacks.
Now I try to eat my meals on time but I slipped again during work, where i move around a lot. I'm 5' and 80lb. I have been since Fishkill. I have less access to snacks, but I'm trying to intake more calories and nutrient v rich foods like nuts, fruits, bananas. I'm going to find a lot of snacks too.
This vid explains why I liked cooking stuff a lot, nd thought I'd like being an Event specialist. I was obsessed with food. But I'd still only binge on cookies after watching cooking stuff or writing as an Event Specialist for 5 hours.
I had my jaw wired shut for 6 weeks from a broken jaw. I was starving, lost 50 lbs. I remember watching my family eat and I felt like a dog just wanting that food so bad 😂 I dreamt about food and thought about it a lot. Starvation is terrible.
That must have been awful... I am sorry you went through that experience
@@angelika77st Thanks 🙏🏻 but in the end it was only a short time and I’m blessed that I can eat normal once again.
As a scientist, I can safely say that these results were absolutely insignificant compared to the conditions those men endured.
Yeah that’s maybe the saddest part: the brochures made these grand moral pronouncements. But all that happened was, a bunch of very conscientious people were crushed for the ‘insight’ that starvation is debilitating , which science knew already
As someone who has been semi starving my entire life to the benefit of nobody I can honestly say I would participate in a study like this if it would help people
Same
unfortunately they need people who are quote unquote normal at baseline
We, psychological outliers, don't provide an accurate approximation of what happens to a "normal" person.
Some of us maintain semi-starvation for a decade or more. Many would have been throwing rocks at sparrows by that point; our "adaptation" is valuable for study but your mental health comes first.
In the '40s the Forces routinely destroyed their servicemen and disposed of em, we still do it today.
I’m sad to say that you probably couldn’t enter a study like that because it could be you just have a low metabolism or some other physical of mental issue and they are studying what happens when they have people that are involuntarily starving thus having a voluntary participant wouldn’t give them the results needed if that makes sense??
you either are biologically capable of eating less or you have a mental condition that makes you eat less, they need people who are Statistically normal everyday. People with no mental or physical problems as a baseline experiment. Control
@@laracross1672 😆
I have chronic pancreatitis. I couldn’t eat anything for a long while. After close to a month I could have a spoonful of plain yogurt. I dreamt about whoppers and other food. It was intense. I think I needed the Percocet at the time more for the hunger pains than the pancreatitis.
Oh I should mention. I had a ritz cracker when I could finally start eating food again, just tiny amounts. The ritz was the first solid thing I’d eaten in a long while. It was the saltiest, butteriest, best thing I’d ever had. It was so flavorful I could’ve sworn it was given to me by God himself.
@@joshuawesteros5345Wow dude.. This is absolutely nuts. Hopefully you feel better and I'm sorry you had to go through that. 💜
Thabks bud, I appreciate it. I’ll always have pancreas problems and be a diabetic due to it but it could be worse. I’m thankful to be alive after it happened. 👍
@@joshuawesteros5345 That's actually a good way to listen to our body what it needs. It can tell us through taste. It is naturally expressed by what we are in the mood for and what we cannot stand anymore after having had it for too long, since diversification lowers risk of deficiencies.
As for your various ailments, the channel "Dr. Eric Berg DC" has tons of helpful healthy diet info you can browse for whatever topic you like and while it might not be the ultimate truth, it can help understand how to empower the body to become the most healthy. Maybe you can even transfer the tips to your special situation.
Sometimes not eating, whether coerced or out of lack of appetite, can actually be helpful for boosting healing, provided that the body has all the necessary micronutrients.
I have exiting news for you Eniqma! I skipped the ad read.
I hate how people treat the homeless , theyre often told that they dont deserve anything because of the choices they make but go as long as then without food or shelter and tell me you’re still a rational thinking person i bet you cant
A lot of them are frauds
After knowing I can't do certain things. I can sympathize with some of them. As it is hard unless you go to gym or train. Some of these things aren't easy.
❤ your comment..You are a beautiful soul!!!!
Well not all homeless people have the same personalities, same with non-homeless people.
Some are twats and rude, some are nice. Out of those options who would you rather help? Does rational thinking constitute being a crappy person or a decent one?
I was born to poverty and difficulty. Not much has changed really. Starvation was ever prevalent and its effects are terrible on both mind and body. The perpetuate splitting headaches, the depression, the rage. Every single day. My joints screamed, I was fatigued and starved for sleep.
I felt different from all those around me. I was different. They could laugh, they could play. They could leave uneaten food on their pig ridden plates. I still feel rage when I see uneaten food. I have nothing and appreciate everything. Others take everything for granted. Almost like seeing a garage filled with junk and the car sits outside. Imbeciles.
The effects of starvation have likely ruined me. I have no interest in dating. Only working, making money, snowboarding, and cooking. I have a cabinet full of cook books from video game universes like Skyrim to fallout. My parties are making elaborate dinners from video game universes and serving them to guests.
I will finish by saying I once went 3 days without food. My first meal that time was an apple. I ate it, core, seeds and all.
If you can afford Skyrim you can afford to nourish yourself back to health and happiness now
If you can find a healthy balance, that would be ideal. Brief fasting phases can be very beneficial to health, so if you can remember that, maybe that eases on the urge a bit.
Several times in recent years I fasted for 4-5 days while doing performance sports daily and felt great and not hungry. It cleaned any messed up baggage from the body, like misformed proteins and all that. Memory improved noticeably.
Currently after a phase of eating more than I probably needed, I naturally went into a phase of interval fasting where I eat (as always) not before hunger occurs and then in a 3-5 hours window and that's it for the day. That leaves the body with the maximum daily time of not having to digest food but go into elevated self-repair.
Remember that fear traumas rule and dominate our life until we find purpose in life through defying them by gently finding back to a serene balance. We send what we are into the world, so when we heal ourselves, we also heal the world. And lately it has become particularly obvious how much humankind needs healing from fear traumas.
I had ED that led me to periods when i starved myself just to know if i can handle it. One of these episodes i decided to eat nothing for approximately a week, only allowing myself to drink one sweet coffee a day and of course water.
I knew i should stop this when i went to drink water and couldn't stop, all i was thinking about was water cure torture, i thought if i felt pain because of how much water is inside of me i wouldn't feel hunger anymore
Ended up wiping the floors because i accidentally threw up all that water while walking
Crazy how erectile dysfunction does that
@@jakass huh? I don't have a dick
If you hadn't vomited, you'd probably shit it out within the hour. I once worked a long hot day without drinking much of anything. Came home absolutely parched and drank about 2/3 of a gallon of water in just a couple minutes. Felt nauseous but did not vomit. However, about 40 minutes later I suddenly felt like I was going to crap my pants, made it to the toilet, and promptly evacuated about 2/3 gallon of faintly shit tinted water.
Sometimes I want to do this ,is this an ED ?
Be careful. Some people have died drinking too much water. I Don’t know the whole story.
Damn, these guys deserve a medal, I run out of energy and become extremely grumpy if i get hungry.
They deserve to have "COWARD" tattooed on their faces. The women who volunteered for service are FAR more deserving of recognition than a bunch of cowards using religion to weasel out of service. While millions suffered FAR worse food and conditions these clowns got to ride out in comfort in Minneapolis. Stow the medal BS...please...its nauseating.
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back then people where hard af
I love starving it gives me mental clarity
And to think I can barely last two days without giving in makes me realise their struggle is far worse than I imagined
Dang man that is crazy. Starvation is a universal feeling and pain, its messed up they didn't get paid for the expirement.
Volunteers don't usually get paid.
they starved that they might eat.
I've been practicing intermittent fasting for a few years now, using it as a way to challenge myself mentally and manage my weight. I've tried week-long water fasts (only water, no other food) and gone through months of daily 24-hour fasts (just one meal a day), creating a calorie deficit of around 1000 calories per day. I can totally relate to what's being discussed here - the constant thoughts about food that never seem to fade away. It's like your mind is always fixated on your next meal, and it can even lead to doubting yourself and coming up with excuses to give up, the amount of suffering these men went through cannot be undertated.
For a serious subject when the drum beat hit at 1:00 minute I chuckled a little
I remember when i deprived my eating in order to lose weight. I lost like 20kgs and it was also the results of heavy workouts because it was my primary goal at that moment. I remember eating even a chocolate was a huge guilt for me. Now a year after i work in stressful job and my sleep patterns are broke down, and i gained back 12kg however i eat whatever i want ofcourse without exaggerating it and i can tell that, eating whatever you like is one of the most undervalued things in the life.
I've done this before just to save money, it didn't drive me over the edge but I could definitely see the edge. I haven't been that hard up for cash for about 10 years now but when I'd finally had enough of it after almost a year I only weighed 125 lbs. My healthy weight is 150 to 160, I think these guys went harder though. I wouldn't do it again, I think I'm perma-phuked now because a lot of phantom nerve pain and stomach issues are still cropping up even though I eat well and stay in shape. Oh well, I bought a house with that hustle so it was a fair enough trade.
Give me the sauce I'm willing to make that trade
you know its not good when pain and starvation is worth the money to get a house
@@jabriellee7573😂
@@drintrovert4564 its definitely good. it isn't good when you starve in a hole.
As an ex pre professional ballet dancer in training, with anorexia. I had gone through that, I am currently still coming back to my senses. My hunger levels are slowly decreasing, and I no longer restrict my calories. I try eating as healthy as possible though.
Anybody who has struggled with an eating disorder related to these symptoms on a personal level. I can’t believe I ever put myself through this willingly - there is so much more to live for.
I once went about two days barely eating with a lot of activity. During the end I noticed that my sense of smell intensified like 10 times out of nowhere .It was trippy. I was about a mile away from a chinese restaurant and I could just smell their fryer that far away.
I know what you mean. I’m struggling with an eating disorder. I try to get better and never go longer than 3 days without eating. Still my sense of smell is incredible.
(ED trigger warning for anyone who cares to read) This is eerily similar to my experience with anorexia nervosa in the past. Monotonous meals become easier to enjoy and food is all your mind can think of. The part about the men binge eating, or “cheating”, is very common and hard to deal with especially in recovery period.
To think these willing participants were given two meals a day to eat and experienced such psychological horrors is terrifying, as I consumed a lot less. I can’t imagine what damage that’s done to my body over time
I hope and pray that you will have a good recovery.
@@lorierush6561 thank you, you’re an incredibly kind soul 💖
@@col5186 Thank you. I mean what I said. I have been broke . Hardly any money for food. That's the past. I still remember how I was acting.
Hey! The video was great (as always) and I really appreciate you speaking about this subject, as it's extremely interesting.
Moreover, I unfortunately have my own experience with starvation as I was diagnosed with anorexia 2 years ago and I can surerly say that not only the starvation but the refeeding faze as well as just horrible, but I still cannot imagine what these men went through just for the sake of an experiment.
1560 Calories is famine?? And I'm seeing entire reddit communities dedicated to eating 1200-1500 calories
For a few weeks it’s fine. Not recommended for months and months.
Surprised to see a guy with as much talent as you getting such low recognition. Haven't watched the video yet, but I just wanted to say that your videos in general cover very interesting topics and you have a great narrator voice! Keep up the good work, man!
@TheEniqma You're welcome
There are so many great content creators it’s a very saturated industry
@@jjoedirtt That is the absolute truth.
I still remember back when i was around 14/15 i could go two weeks on single toast with a bit of meat, a slice of tomato and a bit of mozzarella. Its not because i was anorexic or anything like this. I was just hella suicidal, to the point that i stoped feeling hunger (i know that sounds wrong, but like for real, i would eat single toast, and for next two weeks i could not feel hunger. I was eating when i was feeling hungry and not based om some schedule.). My sleep schedule was also quite fucked then, i could go with about 14 hours sleep per week, at some point i started to wonder "how im still alive? I dont eat, i dont sleep, i just drink water.". To be honest i dont think i could be able to do it nowdays, nowdays the longest i can go on a single toast is about two days, and when it comes to sleep i need at least 4 hours, not 2 hours like i did back in the day. (But then back in the day i got 2 hours sleep per day, but not all at once, i had a polyphasic sleep schedule, meaning i didint sleep 2h at once, but something like 30 minutes 4 times per day. Polyphasic sleep is also knows as davincis naps.)
I also would like to mention that at that time i had so little "active time" as possible, i just walked to the bus, from bus to school, then from school to bus and then from bus home. I had headphones with music on like 20h per day, and i was "in my head" all the time. To be honest, now when i look back at that time, even tho that mentally that was one of the lowest points in my life, i would love to go back to that time. If i could relive that time with my current knowledge, i would still do it the same way.
And before anyone asks, 185cm and about 55-65kg. Now days i walk about 15k steps per day (sometimes more), and i try to exercise daily. Still i dont eat on a schedule, rather on the feeling of hunger, sometimes it can occur once per day and other times multiple times per day. I dont have any health problems because of it, but i still wouldnt recommend it to any one (im no nutritionist, nor i have any deeper knowledge regarding that topic, i just know what works good for me.)
My god...
@@b1tenare u okay mate
I know it's fucked up but I kinda wish I was you
Dude your style of narration is amazing, love the topics
I water-fast for 10 days straight every 3 months, and never had any of the symptoms mentioned here. In fact I feel so much better after the 3rd day, your "need" for food dies out as your digestive system shuts down and goes in a survival/maintenance mode.
When I was younger, I used to live with my alcoholic father who never really cared about us. As a result, I would always feel hungry and to this day, I tend to steal food and eat excessively, fearing that I might not have another chance to eat. Although it's not rational, I still have this urge to binge eat because I feel like I need to hoard food for later. Even though I know that food won't disappear, I am always in a state of anxiety and fear when it comes to food.
The most vivid hallucinations I ever experienced where from my eating disorder. It literally got to where I was blurring reality with things that where not happening. The mind is quite scary
I went psychotic after starving for months, lost all feelings. After awhile i lost all thoughts and urge to eat. My mental state mostly recoverd. Getting back the feeling back to eat or stomach food was the longest and intense effort.
I dont mind eating and drinking now but i have to remind myself most times.
It permanently messes with you. Regardless of unintentionally or not
The mental problems caused by starvation are part of what make eating disorder recovery so difficult. By the time the patient is at a low weight, not only are they suffering from the eating disorder but also mental disturbance from being so thin. They don't have the mental strength to get better alone, and they don't believe that eating will make them feel better. It's really a touch situation. Then refeeding syndrome starts and causes all sorts of problems
I was on semi-starvation my whole life and I didn't know that.
As someone who went through some bad disordered eating habits throughout my late junior high to early high school years, these study results hit differently. Obsessing over food is no joke; every thought I had that didn't pertain to school simply revolved around food and how I could be in control of not only it, but myself too. Watching other people eat their food, looking up recipes online, waiting for specific times to eat just a tiny portion of food and even installing coloring apps on my phone just to color pictures of food took up a lot of my time. My personality changed so much too; it only took something small to make my temper rocket out of control. People picking apart my eating habits ESPECIALLY made me snappy and furious. I'm so thankful that time of my life is done and through now, but I'll never forget it or the effects it left on my mentality and body.
It's absolutely terrifying to see what starvation does to a person and it makes me so sad to think that there are still many people out there who go through even a fraction of this horror. The Minnesota Starvation experiment taught us many important lessons about us and our bodies, and what these men went through was absolutely horrifying
"You're not you when you're hungry" 💀
literally.
Such a hypocritical way to help starving people. Meanwhile the ones they say they are doing it for are still starving to death waiting.
The government absolutely should have paid them they went through absolute hell they deserved money for everything they went through
At the end: starvation bad
The fact that I related to few of their mental symptoms, has got me disturbed
Starvation reveals our primal animalistic nature beneath civility's mask.
As a recovering anorexic, I can confirm that there's a certain point of malnutrition where you just start having full-blown psychotic breaks. For me, it's always been casual, mundane interactions - physical proximity, long conversations, trading quips + humour, etc. - with _hallucinations_ of ppl I'm close to, during times when I would later learn they'd been _verifiably_ present somewhere else. And even though those particular episodes had been non-threatening - _even dull_ - the dawning comprehension that I was losing the ability to distinguish between reality + illusion would always make my blood run cold.
That chilling horror that I was quantifiably losing my mind has usually been a major mental turning point for me to acknowledge I've needed to start trying to get better, again.
(If anyone has any questions about the intricacies of experiencing starvation that aren't answered in the vid, I'm happy to answer.)
I once did a 500 kcal per day diet for 4 weeks while working in a bakery. I dont know what drove me to do that, it was utterly insane, i lost 17 kilos in 4 weeks before collapsing, mind you i didn't have a car license yet so i drove the 16 km to work on a bicycle.
eating 500,000 calories per day is insane, that's enough food for most of the year. Don't know how you survived that without exploding or something
@@Anthracite_coal might wanna check on that , one cooked egg has 56-90 kcal depending on size (source google). so if you can live almost a year on 5-7 cooked eggs, you probably could solve world hunger my dude :)
@@kdraw7178 ah I was just making fun of kilocalories, a 90 kcal egg would have some kind of quantum efficiency magic shit going on there. Imagine the sheer density of that egg, 90,000 cal there.
It's terrible that these men went through this w/o any kind of compensation for it whatsoever. Another time government acted shamefully. Immoral.
They were volunteers.
@@possummagic3571 Still immoral
i think this experiment also really helps in understanding some elements of disordered eating
My stomach is paralyzed. I cannot eat food or drink most liquids without medication. It took a year for me to learn how to consume calories without throwing up. I was overweight when i got sick. I lost over 100 pounds. It was a hellish nightmare. Being in starvation mode for that has permanently scarred me and something im still working through in therapy.
I am glad i lost that weight, but not like that. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy
Ofc they didn’t get paid, that’s insane
TF YOU'RE SO UNDERRATED! THE NARRATION AND EDITING IS UPTO THE MARK
I had a hard time as a kid. My family and I were not able to eat all the time. I have an eating disorder now. The psychological effects of food in relation to the body should be studied more. Starving isn’t the only instigator of the madness, clearly.
Idk how they did this😭 I can barely fast in Ramadan
This reminds me of one of the most ironic historical twists I have ever heard of (and one not widely known).
I'm sure you have all heard of the Donner Party (if so, skip this paragraph) they were American pioneers (led by the Donner family and consisting of about a dozen families, 87 in total, half children) who migrated west to California from the Midwest. After leaving late for their journey, they took a less traveled shortcut that was actually a longer route and ended up snowbound in the extremely harsh winter of 1846-1847, in the Sierra Nevada mountain range. They were stranded for five months in heIIish, abominable conditions (one of the coldest winters on record, w/ an 18 ft. peak snowfall!) When their food ran out, survival kicked in and a pact was made among the 45 survivors to cannibaIize those who perished, with a rule of not consuming one's own kin. Half did so, the others continued eating boiled bark. Out of the 81 members stranded, 47 survived, the oldest and youngest perished.
*One can only imagine the pain and suffering they endured stranded for 5 months in some of the harshest conditions imaginable, so, it is not just tragic but ironic asf that an 18 y.o. boy named William Hook survived the starvation, only to die from eating too much a day after getting rescued!!*
No, he didn't burst. Eating too quickly (too much food too fast) can cause what's known as "Refeeding Syndrome" where the swift reintroduction of food back to the body will cause severe electrolyte disturbances that can have myriad effects on the body, such as seizures, heart failure, coma and death. When William was brought to the camp erected to house and rehabilitate the survivors, he broke into a locked shed housing food supplies. When the woman running the camp saw him sitting on the ground outside the shed eating the stolen food, she called out his name and told him to stop, at that point William stopped, turned around while still seated on the floor and collapsed dead before saying a word. How this isn't more well known, is beyond me.
If curious...out of almost a dozen families, only two made it without losing any members...the Reeds and the Breens (the Reeds never resorted to cannibaIism). All corpses died naturally, except for two Miwok Indian guides (Luis and Salvador) murdered by hunger-crazed William Foster who sh0t them in the head (with a few others butchered the bodies). *If the numbers don't add up: 87 started the journey, 81 got stranded. 45 survivors at the camp during the pact, but 15 left prior to get help (out of which 7 survived).*
I remember learning about the Donner Party, and yeah it's pretty incredible what they went through.
I had a period of time where I lived on my own and got very sick. I was in bed for 4-6 days that I couldn't get up to. Hard to tell because I was kind of in and out of it. I only sipped on water here and there. When I finally was able to start walking around I was so hungry I bought a case of ramen pack at the store. A pack I had never eaten before. When I ate it, it was so good. It was like the best thing I've ever had. I ate multiple packs in a row. As time went by and I was able to eat again I forgot about the case of ramen on top of my fridge. Several months later, I was moving out of my apartment and came across the case of ramen. I remember how delicious it was and so I made myself a pack. No sooner had I taken a bite of my bowl of ramen I gaged. It was so horrible tasting. So bad I couldn't stomach it and threw out the entire leftover case.
I put myself through a water diet for a month (made it to 2 and a half weeks) day 3 was a brutal hurdle because my brain was only focusing on where I could find food and I grew immensely irritable because food was there but I was willingly not eating. After week one I noticed some improvement and it was actually really easy to get through the days without thinking about food. Start of week 2 I started to notice I could smell everyone’s food and that started to mess with me a bit I won’t lie. Still things were easy and I could still keep going. What got me was that Wednesday of week 3………we had a company celebration for a good month (ironic as we went bankrupt a few months later) but the delivery was late and I remember smelling the food from the place we catered and I could feel myself slipping. What got me was going to the break room to fill my water jug and seeing the spread and HR handing me a loaded plate. I ate but quickly realized as good as it tasted eating again felt weird. I was actually supposed to ease my way back into eating with fruit but instead I had a full meal. A couple weeks of eating I almost convinced myself to stop because I didn’t like the way eating felt. But I pushed those thoughts back and kept going because I didn’t want to end up with an eating disorder or something like that. It was interesting to go through though for sure. I’d probably do it again but at least this time I would be better prepared and understand a bit more.
Are you sure that isn't already an ED??
@@Ichigo29ify nope because he could control it and it didn't continue. He did it willingly
I threw up most meals for a year, my body and psyche will probably never recover