Can Dutch and German speakers understand Danish?

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @PeterBrookF1
    @PeterBrookF1 Год назад +256

    I can help but think that Tirza speaking Swedish does inform her ability to understand Danish

    • @demi3115
      @demi3115 Год назад +70

      I'm dutch and also understand well enough to get at least a gist.. but i dont get why they picked her because she can use her swedish knowledge.. >->

    • @claudioristagno6460
      @claudioristagno6460 Год назад +47

      I had the same feeling, it would have been more interesting to have a dutch speaker with zero knowledge of a scandinavian language

    • @haelidh
      @haelidh Год назад +20

      I think so too. I'm Dutch and speak basic Swedish and could understand most of what he said, but that's definitely because of my Swedish knowledge

    • @jsb7975
      @jsb7975 Год назад +2

      The lady from the Netherlands has a strong german-like accent.

    • @Tobi-oi3uf
      @Tobi-oi3uf Год назад +13

      @@jsb7975 That's wrong. In the southern part of Netherlands the accent sounds a bit softer, they have the throat "r" and the "g" sounds more like in Belgium or in Polish "ź" but not too much. I'd say this accent is more similar to Flemish so southern Netherlands

  • @prodigy1979
    @prodigy1979 Год назад +67

    Asking a Swedish speaking Dutch woman whether or not the Dutch understand Danish seems a bit funny to me.

    • @scorpioman1964
      @scorpioman1964 16 дней назад

      She doesn't speak Swedish, me neither. But seeing a lot of Swedish detectives you pick up a lot of Swedish words 😊😅

  • @rocykel
    @rocykel Год назад +136

    Well, as a Swedish speaker, this was easy. Danish is pretty much the same as Swedish, so that part wasn't even a challenge. But I also understood all of the Dutch and German. They speak so slowly that you hear everything. In normal, faster speech, it's not as easy.

    • @wyqtor
      @wyqtor Год назад +15

      You also need to filter for the "hot potato in mouth" phenomenon 😅 I think Swedish and Norwegian are easier Scandinavian languages to learn for foreigners, especially their pronunciation.

    • @SaturnineXTS
      @SaturnineXTS Год назад +3

      I think as a Swede the subs probably did most of the work for you, I hear it's much harder to make out spoken Danish than to read it.

    • @rocykel
      @rocykel Год назад +5

      @@SaturnineXTS I had the video scrolled up so I couldn't see the text. I do that for all these videos. Being able to see the text is cheating! (I would actually prefer it if the video came without text, so I didn't have to scroll it away - the relevant text could be added as proper subtitles instead, so people who want them can turn them on.)
      So no, it's just very, very easy.

    • @herrbonk3635
      @herrbonk3635 Год назад

      @@SaturnineXTS But the close relation (or texting) doesn't help against _utmaning_ sounding like _utfordring_ and similar false friends.

    • @doctormixup5388
      @doctormixup5388 Год назад +1

      Oh, I should have scrolled through the comments before, because I commented bascially exactly this. It was fun to understand the questions and reasoning of the "competitors" so easily as well, even the Dutch, which I don't speak at all really.

  • @larsped.7388
    @larsped.7388 Год назад +71

    As a Danish person I can confirm - it is indeed Danish! 😉

  • @hateva_on_bass
    @hateva_on_bass Год назад +38

    Thank you so much for having me on the video, it was great fun! 🙏😊

  • @Pracedru
    @Pracedru Год назад +11

    Thanks @Ecolinguist for being in this show. I fumbled it a bit trying to improvise. I hope i can try it again sometime and see if i can do the show better. :)
    Thanks Tirza and Evelyn also. I was so surprised how much you got, that i forgot to do the texts for most of the words XD.

    • @Ecolinguist
      @Ecolinguist  Год назад +6

      You were a great host! Thanks! 🤗

    • @martelkapo
      @martelkapo Год назад +4

      You did a great job, Magnus! Your speaking voice in Danish is very charming, and I think your improvisation was stellar

  • @tari_runa
    @tari_runa 7 месяцев назад +4

    I'm from switzerland, i just understood the half of the danish, but i understood almost Everything she say'd in dutch (and everythin of the german of course) and even if i didn't got the perfect answer out of the danish, the time she asked questions in dutch, i got the hint to the right answer.

  • @herdisweins943
    @herdisweins943 Год назад +46

    Being Danish with German as a second language, I find Dutch rather easy to understand.

    • @oskich
      @oskich Год назад +2

      Same as a Swedish speaker. Having studied German definitely helps a lot, since you can recognize many words and sentence structure from there.

    • @BobWitlox
      @BobWitlox Год назад +3

      I'm Dutch and I could guess all of the words, but that's mainly because I could read the Danish text and Magnus spoke slow, clear Danish

    • @jaysimoes3705
      @jaysimoes3705 Год назад +1

      @@BobWitlox Normally I need the Danish text but he was talking so slowly that in this case I did not need it.

    • @annahart69
      @annahart69 9 месяцев назад

      I am english (both parents), but was born in Sweden. From there we moved to Germany where we lived for 6 years, then moved to Denmark in 1980. I really like both german and dutch, the latter I find sounds like a mix of the languages I speak🙂

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 8 месяцев назад

      As german who speaks neither danish nor dutch, I find dutch also much easier. But then, I can sort of read it, the hard parts are the words that are complete different.

  • @nt2wandelingen
    @nt2wandelingen Год назад +15

    Thanks Norbert for this video, it was fun to be a part of it. I'm going to Denmark next week and hope that all danes talk as good as Magnus.

    • @Ecolinguist
      @Ecolinguist  Год назад +3

      Thank you Tirza!! Have fun in Denmark! 🤗

    • @Stroopwafe1
      @Stroopwafe1 Год назад +5

      If you ask them to talk "langsom" (langzaam) haha. Living in Denmark as a Dutch woman for nearly 10 months I'm able to understand fast spoken Danish 80-90% of the time. The Danish Magnus spoke was definitely fully comprehensible though. Hope you enjoy your time here

    • @christina1764
      @christina1764 29 дней назад +2

      Sorry, we Danes certainly don't speak as slowly as "Magnus" 😏

  • @chantsmantrasandrelaxation5079
    @chantsmantrasandrelaxation5079 Год назад +22

    Native language English, close to fluent in German - I found it fascinating that with watching and listening to the Danish I was able to figure out the answers - sometimes in German, sometimes in English. I certainly found listening to the Dutch useful, when Tirza asked questions for clarification she used many words intelligible to my English ears. Thank you. Danke. Tak. Dank je.

  • @piotrwalkowski2601
    @piotrwalkowski2601 Год назад +51

    Im from Poland. I speak german on daily basis but I used to learn both danish and dutch in the past. What a crazy experience to listen all this (as not native) 😂😂

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 8 месяцев назад +1

      Close to the border with lots of german economic tourism I guess?

    • @piotrwalkowski2601
      @piotrwalkowski2601 8 месяцев назад

      @@HappyBeezerStudios yeah xxactly right. Hit the nail on the head ;)

    • @theteguetty5789
      @theteguetty5789 День назад

      Le danois et le néerlandais sont des langues quasiment similaires😊

  • @superstructure23
    @superstructure23 Год назад +28

    I dont think this is a fair comparison with someone who speaks Swedish. It doesn't say much about intelligibility between Dutch and Danish when someone speaks one of the closest languages to Danish there is already

  • @alexj9603
    @alexj9603 Год назад +38

    I'm a German speaker, and I tried to understand the Danish parts with my eyes closed. It was quite a challenge. In some sentences I couldn't understand a word, although Magnus spoke very slowly. In other sentences I could catch one or two keywords and thus figure out what it was about. And sometimes I even got entire sentences. As Tirza said: Normal spoken Danish is way harder to understand. On the other hand, I have very few problems with written Danish.
    Tirza's Dutch was crystal clear to me. But again, she has a very clear pronunciation. I guess that's her "language teaching mode".

    • @fabiolimadasilva3398
      @fabiolimadasilva3398 Год назад +7

      I am Brazilian. This sensation is like French or Romanian to me. The written forms are more or less similar, in different degrees, to Portuguese. Phonetics is the most complex part of any language.

    • @rtlgrmpf
      @rtlgrmpf Год назад +7

      His slow speech makes it evident how many sounds have just disappeared from spoken Danish. That makes most of the words unrecognizable.

    • @Morderkaj
      @Morderkaj Год назад +2

      Most clear Dutch I have heard spoken, was amazed how easy it was to understand, as a Dane.

    • @christianwitthft7099
      @christianwitthft7099 4 месяца назад

      ​@@rtlgrmpfactually the reason Danish is difficult i s because of the many different vowel sounds

    • @christianwitthft7099
      @christianwitthft7099 4 месяца назад

      ​@@rtlgrmpfno. It s actually because of the many sounds Danish is hard....

  • @martinbulke9588
    @martinbulke9588 Год назад +15

    Me and my girlfriend are taking online classes in Danish, so this is great to watch and to learn something.

  • @lamaglama6231
    @lamaglama6231 Год назад +20

    I'm german and listening to danish i understood barely anything. Written was a bit easier - i could at least get a general feel about what it is about. The dutch conversation I could understand quite well though. This video was very interesting!

    • @010arschloch
      @010arschloch Год назад +1

      Yes Dutch is easier to understand as it is more related to German. Written Danish is by far easier to get a clue of than spoken one

  • @jaysimoes3705
    @jaysimoes3705 Год назад +4

    For me as a Dutch it was supereasy because you talked langzaam!

  • @Hin_Håle
    @Hin_Håle Год назад +4

    I'm swedish and understand danish pretty well so for me, it was interesting to understand what the ladies were saying and to listen to the questions and conversations. Bra jobbat, allesamman!

    • @dan74695
      @dan74695 Год назад

      Eg er norsk og fatar ogso det mesta av det dei segjer.

  • @SaturnineXTS
    @SaturnineXTS Год назад +7

    Swedish "glass" is a borrowing from French "glace", but funnily enough they use it only for ice cream specifically. The native Nordic word for ice is "is" of course, so "ice cream" can be called "iskrem" or just "is" like Magnus said

  • @SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands
    @SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands Год назад +3

    I speak low-Saxon Dutch, that is making it very easy to understand Scandinavian and German.

  • @orthoplanar
    @orthoplanar Год назад +56

    Tirza being able to speak Swedish makes it irrelevant that her mother tongue is Dutch. At least for the purpose of this experiment. You would get the same results with English or Swahili speakers. Can they understand Danish? Yes, if they happen to speak Swedish as well.

    • @robbk1
      @robbk1 Год назад +9

      Yes, Tirza being able to speak Swedish is a good headstart, but just knowing Dutch and some English and some Hochdeutsh is also a very big headstart. As a Dutch speaker, (knowing Frisian fairly well, and English too, I was shocked to see that I could read the headlines on the Danish newspapers, on my first visit to Danmark. I had no training in Scandinavian languages. But, of course, understanding Danish speech is something very different. At normal talking speed I could understand almost nothing. After residing 3-5 months in Danmark for 25 years, I still have trouble understanding people who speak very fast or have thick regional accents. For my first 3-4 years there, after being able to read the printed Danish fairly well, I still understood spoken Norwegian and Swedish better at normal speed, and listened to the news from those countries radio and TV. But, yes, anyone who speaks two or more other Germanic languages can understand much of Danish. For example, when the unknown language one tries to understand uses one main word for a noun or concept, and you know two or three other languages from the language group, you are more likely to have one of your other languages have a version of that word as a cognate.
      My speaking Dutch, English, and knowing Frisian and Plattdeutsch (Low German) helped me to read Danish almost fluently, before I even knew a word of that language. With the slow clear manner in which Magnus spoke, I would have understood some of the words, even before I had learned Danish. But it was, much, much easier to understand the printed words.

    • @ikbintom
      @ikbintom Год назад +3

      You know both Frisian and Plattdeutsch?! That's cool, where are you from?

    • @orthoplanar
      @orthoplanar Год назад +3

      @robbk1 I agree that knowing more germanic languages increases the chance of finding cognates. But the fact remains that Swedish is so much closer to Danish than any west germanic language that it invalidates the premise of this video. I was interested in seeing how much a fellow Dutch person could understand from spoken and written Danish based on their own language.
      Btw, as a native Low Saxon (achterhoeks) and Dutch speaker I agree that written Scandinavian languages are partly understandable but the spoken versions are a whole other challenge.

    • @robbk1
      @robbk1 Год назад +5

      @@ikbintom Den Haag. But I resided in Huchting, a village between Bremen and Delmenhorst for 6 years, and a few months a year in a village in West Friesland for a few years, and also in a town in southwest Jylland (Jutland) where people spoke Jysk (a dialect of Danish which contains more Plattdeustsch loan words than standard Danish).

    • @ikbintom
      @ikbintom Год назад

      @@robbk1 That is super cool!! 🤩

  • @Nekotaku_TV
    @Nekotaku_TV Год назад +12

    Since she speaks Swedish the Dutch test in this is ruined because of how similar Danish and Swedish is...
    I really want Afrikaans and Dutch people to try understand Swedish, I wanna find out which is closer to Swedish.

    • @Pracedru
      @Pracedru Год назад +4

      This could be very interesting indeed.

  • @michaelcannon7640
    @michaelcannon7640 Год назад +8

    Thank you Ecolinguist for the very interesting video. I'm a native English speaker, but I speak German at a high level, and I know some Dutch, too. I have some familiarity with Danish, but I've never studied it. To my surprise I was able to guess each word. I didn't understand everything that was said, and honestly, being able to read the text probably helped quite a bit.
    I understood all of the Dutch, too. I think it helped that everyone spoke clearly and slowly. I think if the Danish and Dutch speakers were speaking at a normal conversation pace I would not have understood so well.

  • @warislekhpt2-thBNK48fans
    @warislekhpt2-thBNK48fans Год назад +4

    Ich komme aus Thailand. Dieser Video ist Spaß und anspruchsvoll. Ich habe ein paar Schwedische Wörter in Duolingo und 2 Jahren Deutsch Sprache gelernt. Dieser video ist hilfreich für mich wie Dänisch Sprache ähnlich mit Deutsch, deswegen wurde ich gern Dänisch Sprache lernen für meiner Zukunft.

  • @annalaehdesmaeki6533
    @annalaehdesmaeki6533 Год назад +5

    I´m lucky: got all words right: I was born in Finland, but in an area, where we also talk Swedish) and now living in Germany. Easy-peasy. Thanks a lot!

  • @davidkasquare
    @davidkasquare Год назад +35

    I’m a Swedish speaker, and usually, it’s quite hard for me to understand Danish, but because Magnus spoke so slowly I got almost 100% of what he said. I believe if I listened to “slow Danish” a lot, I would start understanding the normal tempo Danish as well.

    • @ikbintom
      @ikbintom Год назад +7

      Maybe you'll enjoy listening to the podcast Norsken, Svensken og Dansken then! The Dane there also talks clearly like this, so I bet if you listen to it for a while, your ears will tune in to Danish very well

    • @peterfireflylund
      @peterfireflylund Год назад +1

      @@ikbintom never heard of it so I just gave it a listen. I loooove the Norwegian lady’s Bergen dialect! I am also grateful that the Swedish lady speaks more or less Stockholm Swedish. I would have understood very little if she had spoken Scanian (skånska), which is sad because it is actually closer to Danish.

    • @Malentor
      @Malentor Год назад +5

      ​@@peterfireflylundScanian isn't easy for danes to understand, in my opinion. Despite Swedes thinking it sounds closer to danish, I find that Stockholm swedish is much easier to understand, especially if you have a vocabulary of many older danish words.

    • @SaturnineXTS
      @SaturnineXTS Год назад

      @@peterfireflylund I wonder why they never do someone speaking standard east Norwegian alongside a standard Swedish speaker and always bring someone who speaks Bergensk instead. Would that have been too easy and not varied enough?

    • @jaysimoes3705
      @jaysimoes3705 Год назад +1

      Same for me as a Dutch.

  • @sandybeach95
    @sandybeach95 Год назад +5

    I'm a native Norwegian who's fluent in English and German, and this was a lot of fun to listen to. Dutch is very intelligible to me

  • @Elendrria
    @Elendrria Год назад +5

    As a danish learner I can tell you that Magnus has been very nice to speak super slow dansk ;). I liked this episode a lot. Will there be more content for germanic languages like this one? Would be awesome!

  • @claimhsolais3466
    @claimhsolais3466 Год назад +4

    Well done, I voted for this comparison some years ago, thank you!

  • @JoaoVitor-bc7pd
    @JoaoVitor-bc7pd Год назад +2

    As a native Portuguese speaker who knows English, I understand the subtitles well but it's good to say that Tirza seems like a joyful and pleasant madam to chat with over a few beers.

  • @dreistein
    @dreistein Год назад +3

    This is my favourite "waste of time". Loved to hear you talk your own language and understanding each other. Like in a pub.

  • @DaisyG33
    @DaisyG33 Год назад +3

    I studied German many decades ago, so I could follow much of the German. But the funny thing is, with glancing at the supertitles and listening I not so much understood words or sentences, but got pictures in my head. Never experienced anything like it before. What a treat! Incidentally, I guessed 2, 3 & 4 pretty quickly. All I got out of 1 was a plant (naturally) of some kind, and early on I thought maybe 5 was a rainforest. Thank you all!
    Someone commented finding out how an English speaker fares with Afrikaans (intriguing); I would suggest also exposing English speaker to Flemish. Love this channel! ❤

  • @brtcone
    @brtcone 10 месяцев назад +2

    As a Serb speaking German it's way easier to understand Dutch. But Danish? hell no, maybe just a few words but they are also written in another way. Very interessting video ❤

  • @kodekadkodekad4380
    @kodekadkodekad4380 Год назад +21

    I don't quite understand the logic of including a Dutch participant who also speaks Swedish. It's rather a "can Swedish and German speakers understand Danish" challenge than Dutch and German.

    • @rafox66
      @rafox66 Год назад +3

      I'm Dutch, from the northern parts, judging from the Dutch woman's accent she is from the south. I can't speak any Swedish, just Dutch, English and a little German. I could pretty easily translate it with the added help of the text on screen. Dutch and Danish are quite similar, they share a lot of the same roots.

  • @omenoid
    @omenoid Год назад +1

    This was very easy as I read the written Danish. Without the subtitles I'd probably wouldn't have
    had much success. :D

  • @RobbeSeolh
    @RobbeSeolh Год назад +6

    Danish is not understandable as a native German speaker , neither spoken nor written.
    Tirza has an interesting accent, it isn't the typical Hollandic accent all the other Dutch people had on this channel.
    I guess she is from the southern Netherlands? Sounds a bit like a German accent sometimes.

  • @Lillith.
    @Lillith. Год назад +3

    I found it surprising how much I understood as a Dutchie. Reading Danish, Swedish, and Norwegian is very doable, but I got a lot of the sentences just by ear.

  • @demi3115
    @demi3115 Год назад +14

    Why pick a dutch person who also understands Swedish..... ..........

    • @Nekotaku_TV
      @Nekotaku_TV Год назад +4

      Yeah that ruins it and makes it so unfair to the Austrian.

  • @Westermann15
    @Westermann15 Год назад +5

    Fun fact: Danish people are the best students of Dutch in the world, probably the only ones capable of fully mastering the language. Players like Christian Eriksen and Lasse Schöne speak Dutch like a native speaker.

    • @jaysimoes3705
      @jaysimoes3705 Год назад +1

      I know a couple of Danes living here in NL and NO ONE can tell they are not Dutch. They become accentless in weeks to months. It happened more than once to me. The also have the same appearance, the same humor, are pretty direct too so it is very difficult to recognise them as being not Dutch.

  • @norbertohess4477
    @norbertohess4477 Год назад +6

    Ich spreche auch deutsch, neben Portugiesisch, und bin erfreut wie viel ich verstanden habe.
    Viele Grüße aus Brasilien 🇧🇷

  • @bamereg
    @bamereg Год назад +5

    I am Dutch and I speak Norwegian quite well. I would've LOVED to be in this video!
    Glass in Swedish is actually a loan from French.

    • @oskich
      @oskich Год назад +1

      It even used to be spelled "Glace" in older Swedish.

    • @peterfireflylund
      @peterfireflylund Год назад

      The official theory is that the French word comes from Latin but given the many(!) similar Germanic words that are derived from proto-Germanic, I doubt that is the whole story. It seems too random that proto-Germanic --> modern Germanic and Latin --> French should end up with the same word (just spelled differently).

    • @bamereg
      @bamereg Год назад +1

      @@peterfireflylund are you aware of the role of French in Europe in the past few centuries?

    • @peterfireflylund
      @peterfireflylund Год назад

      @@bamereg errr… yes? Did anything I wrote imply that I am not?

  • @jameskirton3168
    @jameskirton3168 Год назад +4

    I speak a dialect of English with alpt of Danish and got 5/5. I'd say I understood 25-30% of the words he said.

  • @JD-kf3bw
    @JD-kf3bw Год назад +4

    Native English speaker who has dabbled with German and Swedish. My comprehension of the spoken language is severely lacking, however reading the text along with the oral pronunciation is fairly easy, with only a few words that were not moderately familiar. I live for this stuff. My focus is more in line with Ibero-romance languages.

  • @juno3254
    @juno3254 Год назад +4

    Personally I've always found the Dutch language to be the coolest sounding Germanic language and I find it beautiful.
    I think specifically it's because a combination of it pronouncing 'r' sounds similar to American English ----- having the alveolar approximant and also pronouncing 'r' sounds out loud; pronouncing voiceless consonants as unaspirated ones(k, p, t); pronouncing the letter 'g' as a hard 'x' sound; and also the way that Germanic cognate words have been inherited into Dutch have become so elegantly short and has a cool and direct kind of mannerism to it --- for example in the video the cognate Dutch word for "white" is "wit" --- I just find Dutch words to be so brisk and cool, making a Dutch speaking person feels like a hybrid of an American, English, and German.
    The reasons I've provided might've been random and very subjective, but it's some of the reasons why I find Dutch to be my favourite Germanic language and people who speak it sound very appealing to me!

    • @d.v.t
      @d.v.t Год назад +2

      I think Dutch is a funny language. I can understand more written Dutch than German 😂 maybe Dutch should be a intergermanic language

    • @dan74695
      @dan74695 Год назад +1

      Many North Germanic tongues sound cool, like Dalecarlian, Bothnian and Jutish.

  • @L-mo
    @L-mo Год назад +2

    As an English native with medium Romance languages but no knowledge of Danish, German or Dutch, I followed this pretty well!

  • @haeleth7218
    @haeleth7218 Год назад +4

    Fascinating how two west germanics can still generally understand a north germanic speaker.

  • @NurIchSelbst.
    @NurIchSelbst. Год назад +4

    With some practice in Duolingo quite easy. Written Danish is more understandable. Spoken Danish is a task, but also fun to learn.

  • @SpiderSplash_
    @SpiderSplash_ 7 месяцев назад +2

    As a Norwegian, this is insanely clear and easy to understand, he's basically speaking norwegian at this point

    • @oskich
      @oskich 21 день назад

      Yeah, it's rare to find Danes in the wild speaking this clearly ;-)

  • @lestry7878
    @lestry7878 Год назад +7

    I live in Heerlen, The Netherlands and I noticed that Tirza's accent sounds really Limburgish. I wonder if she's from Limburg as well. Her accent is amazing to listen to.

    • @peterfireflylund
      @peterfireflylund Год назад +3

      Oh, that’s what’s going on? I noticed that her pronunciation was a bit different. She was easy to understand, though.

    • @lestry7878
      @lestry7878 Год назад +2

      @@peterfireflylund I checked out her YT channel and she indeed records videos from Heerlen - the city where I live! That's a cool coincidence. But yeah. She speaks very clearly but her accent is Limburgish. I love it though because I try to speak with a Limburgish accent as well but my only reference are my coworkers. It's nice to have a YT channel where I can listen to some slow pronounced Dutch with a Limburgish accent :D

    • @Ama94947
      @Ama94947 Год назад +2

      Yes she sounds limburgish for sure

    • @LotoTheHero
      @LotoTheHero Год назад +1

      Interesting! As an American that doesn't speak Dutch, I thought her pronunciation on some words sounded a bit different from what I've heard from a more standard dutch. Like, some of the sound inventory used almost reminded me a bit of the French sound inventory. I thought it must just be my imagination. Interesting to know that my brain picked up on the accent sounding somehow a bit different even not knowing the language.

    • @BobWitlox
      @BobWitlox Год назад +2

      She sounds extremely Limburgish :) She spoke slow, over-articulated Dutch too. That makes it easier to understand

  • @Floorman7285
    @Floorman7285 Год назад +1

    This is really interesting!!! I can understand a lot mostly from German and Dutch. Still working on understanding Danish

  • @wingedhussar1117
    @wingedhussar1117 Год назад +6

    German native speaker here... I need to say: Danish is superhard to understand for Germans, but not so hard to read if you know some basics. I have some basic knowledge of Swedish (below A1) and I understood almost everything of the written text, but almost nothing of the spoken text.

    • @010arschloch
      @010arschloch Год назад

      Yea the pronounciation and stød makes it harder to understand

  • @andurk
    @andurk Год назад +13

    Magnus, if all danes spoke as clear as you we would have zero lingual barriers here in Scandinavia. Dette er den tydeligste formen for dansk jeg har hørt i mitt liv. Og jeg har hørt mye dansk😂😂 greetings from Norway

    • @Pracedru
      @Pracedru Год назад +7

      Mange Tak Andurk. Jeg talte også langsomt og tydeligt med vilje.

    • @oskich
      @oskich Год назад +2

      @@Pracedru Mycket lättförståelig danska, i klass med drottning Margrethe ;-)

    • @d.v.t
      @d.v.t Год назад +2

      Oh you're the Norwegian speaker on a similar video right? I think I recognize you

    • @andurk
      @andurk Год назад +1

      @@d.v.t that would be right 😊

  • @melsmith5833
    @melsmith5833 Год назад +2

    I am a English speaker, learning Dutch so I was able to get a good amount of that, but German and Danish seemed to have some easy words to pick up. I really appreciate the slower pronunciation as it aids in working to understand what is being said.

  • @carlinberg
    @carlinberg Год назад +7

    If Danes spoke like this Scandinavia would be one country 😂

    • @Pracedru
      @Pracedru Год назад +3

      Det er ret. Men vi skal egentlig bare lytte en smule til hinandens TV og radio, så går det .

    • @carlinberg
      @carlinberg Год назад

      @@Pracedru ja helt klart, jag skojar bara 😊

  • @aaronmarks9366
    @aaronmarks9366 Год назад +2

    My first language is English, and I can speak/understand German and Dutch fairly well. But without the text to help, all I could get from the Danish in this video was approximants and glottal stops.

  • @danielmeier7256
    @danielmeier7256 Год назад +1

    I honestly have no idea how that landed in my recommended videos, I’m however not at all disappointed! Plus the Danish guy is cute! 😍😂

  • @ehmzed
    @ehmzed Год назад +14

    Danish spoken by Magnus sounds so lovely and soothing, as opposed to other instances where I've heard the language. And I know it's notoriously made fun of for not sounding exactly pretty 🥔💀, so it's nice to hear the wide scale that a language can be spoken in.
    I love Magnus, he's always so soft spoken and seems like such a genuine and curious person, and his smile is the cutest, with those bright eyes 😫❤

    • @dutchdykefinger
      @dutchdykefinger Год назад +3

      so i'm not weird for thinking danish usually sounds WAY faster spoken, and danish speakers tend to swallow consonants all the time which makes it a bit challenging?
      because that was the idea i had about danish, and it being completely impossible because of that (as a ductchman)
      this guy was surprisingly strongly articulated from what i thought was danish, and the lower tempo makes it barely managable for even me to start working with.
      it sounds closer to say common german to me the way he speaks compared to my idea of how danish sounded
      then again, my spoken dutch is far faster and harsher than the dutch spoken by the speaker in this video too,
      where i'm from the tempo is fast, and the consonants way, way harsher to make the faster tempo still distinguished, also,
      saying the same word with a different letter/syllable stress to infer a stricter definition of that word is very common in dutch
      especially with the dutch word "er", which is a rabbit hole in and by itself for how much application it has and how we use it 3 times every sentecne without even realising it, the best english equivalent would be "it" .
      when you read back this paragraph to see how often i had to use the word "it" to convey that in english, you get a good idea of how "er" functions in dutch.
      in use cases than its default standalone translation "there", it is a reference to whatever mentioned before, so can mean virtually anything, similar to "it". but used in and by itself and every literal conrtext it means "there" rather than the english it which would be more like "that", but that's the way we use "there" as a glue, very similar really when you see it for it rather than strictly there... it all makes sense real quick.

    • @Pracedru
      @Pracedru Год назад +3

      Thanks @ehmzed.

    • @JD-kf3bw
      @JD-kf3bw Год назад +1

      I've always found the Scandanavian languages a pleasure to listen to, including Danish. I also quite enjoy listening to Dutch; it has a very English feeling to it even though I can rarely understand most of what is being spoken without the written sentence in front of me.

    • @AnvilOfDoom
      @AnvilOfDoom Год назад +2

      @@dutchdykefinger as a Dane, I am as sure as I can be without actually knowing Magnus, that he was being super nice. He spoke very slowly, enunciated very carefully in a way very few Danes would do in normal speech. And I also suspect he was careful about using some sentence structures that might be more familiar to German/Dutch speakers, actually. That last part is definitely speculation on my part. But I did think some of it sounded a little... maybe formal? Or just slightly awkward? Not wrong, but also not like the most common way to phrase things? Not that it was completely "unnatural" Danish by any means. Not at all.

    • @Malentor
      @Malentor Год назад +1

      Yes, you can speak danish like this, but it would take an eternity to get a point across. It's only done in instances like this, where you're speaking slowly for non-native speakers to have an easier time.
      It's also strange that danish is often taught in the way that it's spoken slowly, when no native speaker speaks in this way.

  • @JohanMynhardt
    @JohanMynhardt Год назад +8

    Very interesting! With Afrikaans as native language, English 2nd and some interest in German, I could make out something here and there, or rather, make out words but not sentences.
    Very cool! ❤

    • @Arries00
      @Arries00 Год назад +3

      Ja ek ook. Het maar gesukkel lol

  • @darkknight8139
    @darkknight8139 Год назад +2

    I am a native Dutch speaker, and I can also understand and speak German. I returned from a vacation in Denmark just the other day, and realised that I can hardly understand spoken Danish. When I read the text above the video: no problem, I understand about 80% of it. Reading the ingredients list on some product in Danish: also no problem. It actually has quite some similarities with German. The problem is the pronunciation, it is very different from what I would expect. For example, the a becomes e in the word "Dansk", an e becomes an a in "du havde rat". And there are incredibly many silent or almost silent letters. Magnus speaks Danish here at half tempo as Danes do in practice. That, combined with the different pronunciation makes it really hard to understand.

  • @citroen143
    @citroen143 Год назад +1

    Dear Magnus the way you spoke Danish ( very slowly) changed the perception of your language. Seen as a sort of Martian dialect 🙂you did justice to it. It is really very nice!!!!! On the other hand the country that invented Lego and Danish pastries super stereo racks and super cars, was bound to have a very nice and intriguing language. Thanks for your videos. Very interesting indeed. Cheers 😀🙂😊

  • @jorgeharrisonn8325
    @jorgeharrisonn8325 10 месяцев назад +1

    It's funny that i speak a bit of swedish and i managed to undestand most of the danish subtitles but not the danish speaking

  • @gumachad
    @gumachad Год назад +1

    I'm intermediate in Swedish and German and beginner in Dutch, but somehow I could handle. I got the keywords for each challenge.

  • @Labroidas
    @Labroidas Год назад +2

    I'm an Austrian also. I think a northern german or someone who knows northern dialects well will have a MUCH easier time with Danish. But there are many typically Scandinavian things (like "ikke" meaning "not") that no German speaker would understand I think, but which would in turn be very easy for Swedish or Norwegians to understand.

  • @patrickhenniger9861
    @patrickhenniger9861 Год назад +2

    Someone has already written that if all Danes would speak as slowly and clearly as he does, then there would be no difficulties in communication with Norwegians and Swedes. I as a German native speaker can continue this thought.
    If all Danes would speak as slowly and clearly as he does, then the transition from the North Germanic to the West Germanic languages would be less harsh. Of course, I also have a much better idea: All Scandinavian native speakers (North Germanic) in the future please pronounce the words as they are written as they are spelled, and stop using the majority of certain consonants and endings.😂 I think this would help Germans and Dutch people.

  • @schredflsd
    @schredflsd Год назад +7

    Ich lerne deutsch schon fast 2 Jahre. Ich verstehe auch niederländisch, aber dänisch…. Gar nicht😅 aber das ist eine sehr interessante und schöne Sprache

  • @aaronmarks9366
    @aaronmarks9366 Год назад +2

    I want to see a video on German, Dutch, and Nordic speakers listening to very broad Scots. Like, a Scots variety that is as un-English-like as possible.

  • @palantir135
    @palantir135 Год назад +1

    If I’m right, Tirza comes from the province of Limburg.
    I’m Dutch but I also speak English and German. When only hearing it, I can’t understand much but when reading it combined with you speaking I can understand more or less an idea what you mean. Speaking dialects from Limburg helps a lot.
    I thought a plant for the first. I got snow, pencil, bridge, forest.

  • @katarinawikholm5873
    @katarinawikholm5873 Год назад +9

    I never understood why Danish & Dutch were supposed to be intelligable … but I’m approaching this from being Swedish

    • @Robjay1795
      @Robjay1795 Год назад +2

      A danish trold me once, that swedish is a throat desease and I was like "wth? have you ever heard your language?" Hälsningar fran en tysk med svensk familje

    • @mimimimek3488
      @mimimimek3488 Год назад +1

      ​@@Robjay1795 i agree with the dane, swedish has an unpleasant sound

    • @superstructure23
      @superstructure23 Год назад +3

      As a Dutch speaker, I don't understand this either. I can't understand a word of spoken Danish

    • @katarinawikholm5873
      @katarinawikholm5873 Год назад

      @@mimimimek3488 Just out of curiosity, what are the unpleasant sounds of Swedish?

    • @mimimimek3488
      @mimimimek3488 Год назад +1

      @@katarinawikholm5873 the flow is really annoying

  • @gertstraatenvander4684
    @gertstraatenvander4684 Год назад +1

    In het Nederlands dialect waar ik mee opgroeide (Oost Brabant), was er verschil tussen ies waar je op schaatste en ijs wat je at.

  • @doctormixup5388
    @doctormixup5388 Год назад +2

    This one is easy mode for a Swede with some German. It's not even a guessing game. I just understand what they're saying.
    EDIT: of course they are making an effort to speak slowly and clearly, I can fail to understand all of these languages when spoken at the normal pace

    • @oskich
      @oskich 21 день назад

      Knowing some German really helps with understanding Dutch. The big problem is their pronunciation of some letters which can differ a lot from Swedish/German.

  • @peterfireflylund
    @peterfireflylund Год назад +3

    Funny how the Dane got confused by Dutch words - words that Tirana didn’t seem to expect to be confusing!
    “Kleur” = colour, for example. I don’t think the Dutch get how confusing it is when random unstressed vowels get dropped. “Klante” = client, costumer, guest is another word of that type.

    • @lindavangestel6707
      @lindavangestel6707 Год назад +3

      Kleur actually comes from French "couleur". The Germanic word is different (Farbe in German, farve in Danish).

    • @oskich
      @oskich Год назад +1

      "Klant" or "Klantskalle" means Clumsy/Clumsy head in Swedish. Always funny to see signs in Dutch which reads "Klanten service" 😂

    • @Pracedru
      @Pracedru Год назад

      Yeah, I wasn't really on my feet there. "Kleur" (Color) should be easy enough to get since i speak french and english.. but green and yellow threw me off, and so i thought we where talking about shapes and usage of snow. I got it when she mentioned orange. :D

    • @peterfireflylund
      @peterfireflylund Год назад

      @@Pracedru I am not blaming you at all! The fun thing (for me) is that she clearly didn’t expect those words to be confusing - and yet I think they are, not just for other Germanic speakers but for practically everybody.

    • @RobbeSeolh
      @RobbeSeolh Год назад

      Duwt was the only word I didn't understand. the only word she used which doesn't have a cognate in English nor German.

  • @matthudson8599
    @matthudson8599 2 месяца назад +1

    Having an understanding of Swedish gives an unnatural advantage, especially if you know the concept of the passive impersonal verb form +s, and the definite article as a suffix. Two head starts that are uniquely characteristic of the Scandinavian languages.

  • @eefaaf
    @eefaaf Год назад +1

    A 'bos' can also be called 'woud' that is closer to German Wald. Same sound change as kalt and koud.

  • @Peacefrogg
    @Peacefrogg Год назад +1

    I am dutch i don’t speak danish or swedish but i got all of them correct. I love hearing that soft danish d that’s kind of not an l and not a d but something in between. I don’t think i will ever be able to pronounce it right, but somehow it sounds really festive to my ears.
    This is the language i would imagine havfruer would speak, if they existed.

  • @ЮлияСачек-з9я
    @ЮлияСачек-з9я Год назад +2

    Как русскоговорящая, могу только сказать, что все красавчики!)

  • @fabiolimadasilva3398
    @fabiolimadasilva3398 Год назад +1

    I am a native speaker of Portuguese (Brazilian). By context related to Ecolinguist channel, I can understand some words: "Ord nummer to" (word number two) and so on.

  • @PetraStaal
    @PetraStaal Год назад +2

    I couldnt understand a thing of the Danish being spoken. Or as we say in Dutch: " I couldn't make chocolate out of it"

  • @Martin..v
    @Martin..v Год назад +2

    Magnus speaks very clear "tydligt" and slow in this. So I understood almost everyting except for some compleatly different words from Swedish. Normaly I would hardly understand anything at all, very difficult for me at least

  • @brietje2621
    @brietje2621 Год назад +1

    Dutch people use also Der wald (Dutch: het woud) for Forrest.

  • @WolfgangSourdeau
    @WolfgangSourdeau Год назад +3

    I am surprised Tirza used the word "bos" (wood) for the 5th word. It seemed to be that "forest" would translate to "woud", which I believe is cognate with "wald" (and probably with "wood" as well).

    • @peterfireflylund
      @peterfireflylund Год назад +1

      Isn’t “woud” = wood (the material), “bos” = forest, and “bom” = tree (the big plant)?
      (Danish: træ, skov, træ - yes, we use the same word for the whole plant and for the material.)

    • @Arcopole
      @Arcopole Год назад +2

      @@peterfireflylund No, "hout" = wood and both "woud" and "bos" can mean forest, and "boom" = tree

    • @WolfgangSourdeau
      @WolfgangSourdeau Год назад +1

      @@Arcopole so a "bos" is not a small "woud"?

    • @Stroopwafe1
      @Stroopwafe1 Год назад +2

      @@WolfgangSourdeau Not really, "bos" is the more used term by far, maybe flemish speakers would use "woud" idk. "Bos" is cognate to the English "bush". Whereas "bush" in English means "struik" in Dutch, which doesn't seem to have cognates.

    • @felixschneidenbach2422
      @felixschneidenbach2422 Год назад +2

      @@Stroopwafe1 Busch and Strauch in German (they can be used interchangeably for shrub) . There's also "Forst" which is a commercially used forest.

  • @carstenmller813
    @carstenmller813 12 дней назад

    As a former truckdriver..I speak German and English and off course danish...Never had any problems in NL.. Had to custom close a container in Rotterdam... The custom officer saw my number plates.. Talk to me in danish!!!!! Danish wife.. We had a laugh...

  • @VeryClearLanguages
    @VeryClearLanguages Год назад +2

    Excellent challenge! The Danish language derives from Old Norse, the language of the Vikings. German and Dutch belong to the West Germanic branch.

  • @Ama94947
    @Ama94947 Год назад +4

    As a Dutch, I did not understood a word of Danish LOL

    • @robbk1
      @robbk1 Год назад

      At least you could understand the printing.

  • @NightwatchRebel
    @NightwatchRebel 3 месяца назад

    He was being VERY generous with his pronunciation 😅 In normal conversational Danish he would have skipped half of every word

  • @_kukaracha_
    @_kukaracha_ Год назад +1

    Дякую за відео! 💙💛
    Вдачі та всього найкращого!

  • @RomanticLanguages
    @RomanticLanguages 8 месяцев назад

    Thank you! it could also be great to see Elsasserditsch or Alsatian German in one of the videos of the Germanic series...

  • @jameskirton3168
    @jameskirton3168 Год назад +2

    Alot got to taje into account mental ability, intuitives will grasp it.

  • @woesmaro
    @woesmaro Год назад +1

    As a Dutch person, I think I can confirm that Tirza has a huge advantage speaking both German and Swedish too. To think that a Dutch person could understand all that on just Dutch and English alone would be a lie.

    • @jaysimoes3705
      @jaysimoes3705 9 месяцев назад

      I don't see how the German is actually a lot of help. To me it seems further off than our own Dutch language is. Swedish of course is an advantage. All words that made little sense in Dutch did make a lot of sense in Swedish from what I gathered. But then again I do not speak Swedish either. But big (groot in Dutch, stor in Danish is also Stor in Swedish). Otot: we have a consonant with the word "stoer" (pronounced as the Swedish stor I think?). That means impressive, someone who is stoer makes him/herslef look bigger, more impressive so I think it is surely not the same but has something in common.

  • @ronhoover5490
    @ronhoover5490 Год назад +2

    Magnus has a nice Danish style.

  • @kosmicheskiprah
    @kosmicheskiprah Год назад +6

    As a Bulgarian and language lover and huge fan of this channel, just came to randomly see the video and reactions. Danish sounds so soft and cool 🤗 Still, similar to Slavic languages you can see the closeness of Germanic languages. Enjoyable video! 😎

    • @СергКарт
      @СергКарт Год назад +1

      Но немало слов как русские: манге (много), сне (снег), колер, холд (холод). Удивило, что совсем непохоже "зерно" или "семя" (хотя эти слова у нас схожи с романскими). Интересно: часть славянских слов похожа на германские, а часть - на романские. Ну, сталь, бетон, это понятно, это заимствования. Как и экосистемы и климат (но надо вслушаться в произношение). Но первые три слова я угадал, хоть германских и не знаю (правда, знаю слово "Винтер", по-м., из "Трёх мушкетёров"))

  • @YeetyboisEmpire
    @YeetyboisEmpire 10 дней назад

    As a native English Speaker I could understand the initial introductions in German and Dutch pretty well (reading helped) but couldn't make sense of the Danish

  • @TheAlkochef
    @TheAlkochef Год назад

    I would at least expect some kind of backup for this type of stuff (for the participants)... as a dane im impressed of how much he actually understood in general, but when the contestants have questions about stuff, and the host cant make out a certain word, it can just make it all a whole lot more cringe. xDDDD If its just 3 ppl, from 3 different countries speaking their native tounge, without help when its needed to just understand wtf we're talking about, then it ruins it a bit... Ive been a sub for a while, i got hyped when i saw something about Denmark D: Im not saying u should spoil anything, it would probably just make the vids a bit shorter in general, and also u wouldnt clench your toes when people dont understand each other lol. Either supervise it or be like a backup in an earbud or something, or make the conversations between each phrase in english, so everyone understands better (it also levels the plainfield a bit) ... u know what i mean. Still a good vid tho, just some constructive critisism. :)

  • @WodanArsa
    @WodanArsa Год назад +4

    also Dänisch ist schwer zu verstehen, da verstehe ich nur 1\4 bis 1\3 aber das Holländisch der Dame versehe ich gut.

  • @BigSirZebras
    @BigSirZebras 6 месяцев назад

    When they were asking about if ice on the ground is the same as ice you can eat they were referring to ice cream or popsicles, right? not ice like you would put in your drink

  • @manometras
    @manometras Год назад

    I didn’t expect that, but I guessed all of the things right.

  • @annahart69
    @annahart69 9 месяцев назад +1

    Jeg tænker at Tirza har en klar fordel idét hun taler/forstår svensk😉

  • @recarsion
    @recarsion 2 месяца назад

    Speaking both English and German (though neither natively) I can easily understand Dutch when spoken slow and clear like Tirza did, but barely a word of Danish.

  • @montanus777
    @montanus777 Год назад +1

    as a 'mid-west german' i could guess most of the words looking at the _written_ explanations (but thought the last word is a 'nature park'). _spoken_ danish on the other hand is almost completely unintelligible for me. understanding the dutch lady was quite easy ... and the austrian lady as well. ;P

  • @geminijune2878
    @geminijune2878 Год назад

    Malayo-Polynesian languages next Nobert please. I want see Tagalog, Indonesian, and the various dialects trying to understand one another.

  • @KaruMedve
    @KaruMedve 3 месяца назад

    Magnus, tú eres una joya!!! Todavía estás aprendiendo español?

  • @maximiliano8540
    @maximiliano8540 Год назад

    For Tirza it was easy as she is a native Dutch speaker and knows Swedish :)