Bul Armory Tac Pro 5” | Fast, Awesome & Affordable!
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- In today’s video we check out the all new Tac Pro 5” from our friends over @BULARMORY! This gun is fast and flat for sure! We’ve also already spoken to Bul Armory regarding our accuracy issues and barrel issues. The gun will be going back to Bul Armory for inspection and hopefully we can get it back soon to show it again on the channel at 25 yards! Thanks for watching as always, hey oh!
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The bur issue made me look up their warranty info. Its only 1 year?!?! For a $2,500 premium gun youre only standing behind your product for 1 year?!?! I get lifetime warranties on guns 1/5 of that cost. Beautiful piece no argument there but in 2024 you can not offer a 1 year warranty on a gun this pricey. Your biggest competitor in this space is Staccato and they have a lifetime warranty. Gotta pass on this one
I didn’t know that thank you! Leaning toward staccato now
@quesokelso5425 if stealth arms didn't have a 24 week lead time I'd just go with a Platypus. A 2011 with glock mags
Bull Armory is not a premium 2011.
More like a budget 2011
@armon8399 sure compared to a custom 2011 for 3 times the price it's budget but to 99% of people in the market for a new gun, a $2500 gun is a premium gun. And as such, buying one with a 1 year warranty is a non starter. Similar price for a staccato and you get a lifetime warranty
@@quesokelso5425 You won’t be disappointed.
Anyone else notice the sounds of occasional richochets off the rocks ?
Hear them frequently on these and 1911 Syndicate videos
Mr. Roger we talked a bit in remarks once when you were testing the Nighthawk comped vs the Staccato XC and i gave my thought on why the difference in the feeling. Thought I would add a few thoughts here.
I do a lot of testing on ports and comps as well. I've learned a few things that are telling. Ports have a habit of causing issues with some types of ammo. Some more than others. Seeing the lead deposits near the crown is telling a story.
Many manufacturers are now selling what they call full metal jackets which are in truth, not full metal jackets but plated jackets. This is usually a very thing coating and it tends to shed some of the jacket when shooting in both ported pistol barrels as well as shedding jacket material in the forcing cone between the cone and front of the cylinder. It is such an issue that Berry's ublletsmade for reloaders plainly say not fo ported or revolvers.
Another issue is in full metal jacket rounds, (Real ones) many times the base is concave. Even without a bur in the bore or ports, the pressure on the base tends to push a little of the outside perimeter up when passing the port and is then extruded back down further down the bore. Issue is, it is extruded back past the base of the bulles No far, but enough to unbalance the bullet at longer ranges.
I learned this by recovering bullets in a softer material in order to examine the effects on the bullets themselves. I have gone so far as to diamond lap the bores with 1 Micron diamond paste to prevent any possibility of burrs. it helps as it stops most shaving but cannot stop the extrusion. but does not totally prevent the issue as the pressure is still an issue.
One more issue is the exposed lead core on actual jacketed round nose bullets is the lead melts and accumulates around the forward part of the ports and smears down the bore. Again, poor accuracy. You Will see the smaer on the top of the inside of the barrel mostly. Further, some companies use a harder lead that others. This is also an issue. Softer, more smearing .
To test this I switched to both actual jacketed HP's and Plated HP" and saw the results. Actual swaged jackets are much less prone to damage and the HP's have a solid base which prevents the melting of the base.
To prove out what was happening, I switched to several brands of solid copper defense ro nds and the gun's became very accurate instantly.
An added benefit of an actual comped gun rather than ported most this if not all is prevented. I went so far as to completely mirror polish the inside of a Genghis style comp and there was no real clean up to be done with Jacketed HP's and or solid copper slugs. Only smoke from power heat. Before with lead bases exposed I had to really work hard to clean the comps. I now fully mirror the interior of the comps and before shooting, wax with a good quality Ceramic Wax. It only takes a few minutes with a bamboo swab soaked with the wax to remove all residue and is back to mirror finished again. Takes less the 3-4 Minutes. Believe it or not, the low cost Turtle Ceramic Hybrid Wax for Autos does a bangup job!
Sorry this is so long winded. Did the best I could to try and make it clear to readers. (Helpful tidbit. Many small ports do less damage ot 3 or 4 larger dia. ports. Less base upset).
KnifeMaker/Retired after over 47+ Years in the Shop
I was going to suggest making a lap and polishing the bore, but you post laid out all the issues with ports much better than I could.
I believe Blazer brass uses the thin brass coating and they specifically say on their box not to use it in ported or comped firearms. I imagine for exactly this reason.
besides all of this...comps look way better/cooler, comps when pre treated clean up super easy and keep the rest of your gun cleanm especially the top of your light and the end of the barrel and around the slide by the muzzle end doesnt turn black. after enough rounds ports make guns looks so dirty. the only way to avoid this is not have ports on the barrel and the slide. -- of which the only solution I can think of is an island barrel. island barrel ports are more like little comp openings further back than ports. porting really isnt a good solution when you can comp or island barrel port and they are way cooler and keep your gun clean not make it dirtier. we def need to see more island barrels. more 2011 manufacturers need to do island barrel. legion and hayes do thats it I think, and old stis. Someone really needs to step up for glock too. Zev hypercomp is ugly and sucks. trinity nevada slides don't even work. God I wish I could have my ideas developed by a machinist who could do what I could design. I feel like gun engineers/manufacturers are very unintelligent. If a smart person would actually start developing stuff it would be awesome.
@@sociopathmercenary Oddly, the Blazer Brass doe use very thinly coated bullets but in testing, the Blazer Alu. apparently has heavier coated bullets. I can't help but wonder if the heavier coating on the cheaper rounds is a Lot Number issue. I can't imagine why they would spend more on the bullets in a cheaper line of products.
Not all that long ago, I was shooting a lot of PSA 9mm with good results. The last case was terrible accuracy. Yep, plated. I tried for days to get an answer from them as to whether this was a temporary step due to shortage of bullets or gong to be an ongoing move. Never could get an answer. Couldn't so much find anyone who knew what they were using. Not on the phone, not by writing, reviews, questions and answers on the site. nada. No response whatsoever.
I no longer order PSA Ammo. A shame as it was great for a while. Then went to carp an none seemed to care or even know about it.
Not exactly what I would consider good customer service
KnifeMaker
Sounds to me like you need to get some patents on paper! Set up an LLC ($50 to create). Talk to a patent lawyer - can be pricey. You can file patents on your own also. Then make us some cool stuff! You, a gunsmith, metal shop guy, should be able to put in on paper. Make templates out of paper. Eventually metal. C'mon man, make some dreams to share with the rest of us who aren't as smart as you, but can appreciate a good thing when they see it! You're smart, now get out there and use it! But don't forget about me when you're famous. I'm the guy who told you not only can you do this, you should, for the rest of us! @@CiciK222
Hey Roger I watched this video again and I received an back in stock email from BUL Armory for the TAC PRO 5" immediately went to their website and purchased one shipping soon bruh... 😎
Nice man! Congrats!
@@RogerBarrera Thanks bruh..! 😎
@@Thomas-vt7cz it's been a month - how do you like it?
@@briangontarski I'm quite impressed man, I said to myself what the hell and decided to get the Prodigy comp 5" also. What do you think about that one??? 😎
@@Thomas-vt7cz- don’t know about it. My other is a PPQ so very different.
You guys make the Bill Drill look so easy. Nice work. I’m new and Bill Drill splits are still a huge challenge. You give me a goal to shoot for
Thanks! I’m going to be filming a video soon on how I shoot my bill drill.
XC can do 1-2” at 25 all day. This is one of the reasons I’m glad I went with it over grabbing a P or XL and porting it.
Check your barrel lock up could be responsible for inconsistent grouping last year I had tac4.25 non-ported model with a shitty lock up and I was all over the place with my groupings totally inconsistent. I replaced that with the 4.25 Pro ported lock up is night and day better much better groupings you shouldn’t be able to move that barrel at all when it’s locked up, I don’t think Bull is paying as good attention as their competition guns other than that I love the ported version. It’s what I could afford. Good luck with yours John.
A 1.48 bill drill. Fuck ya man. Dope. Im a solid second slower still. Training as much as I can afford to get better though.
On the radar, can't wait to own this exact model. Seems like a one off barrel issue. Everything I have ever seen regarding Bul has been positive and people raving about the quality.
For sure same here. This is my first Bul out of several to have an issue. I’m sure it’s a one off issue and we’ll get it back out on the range for an update video.
Looking at a couple other reviews for the gun it looks like you may have got one with a barrel that slipped through that shouldn’t have. I have no doubt Bul Armory will make it right. Still ordering mine as soon as they drop.
Agreed looking forward to getting this back out on the range. Thank you for taking the time to check out the video.
Nice review and well done on that Bill Drill! I like the clean looks on this pistol w/the integrated comp & the full length rail! 👍👍
Thanks man! Yeah this thing is a smooth shooter for sure!
She's definitely a looker.
I almost don't want to see any content on Bul Armory stuff from anyone until the stuff is available to buy... the 10 people that actually have been able to find stock always tend to show up to say that "they" got one... honestly, there is stuff going on over there that may be affecting production, but I can't help but feel teased in my first world problem. Lol... people just lining up to give them money, aaaaaaand out of stock... again.
ive got a love/hate with Bul! got a 3.25 to carry, WILL NOT CARRY IT because you never know when the red dot is gonna fall off!! I had it V6 ported, no help, im on my fourth piece of crap plate, (the fifth is on the way). the solution is to buy one of their new plate designed guns. I thought it was me, do i work for a gun shop, mount MANY red dots, with no issues (other than Holosun issues! )
I only wish their guns were available!
Send it to Dave at DSC Gunworks. He can DPO cut the 3.25 ULs...so you can run any Dawson Precision staccato plate you want, with backup irons. He's the best 2011 smith in the biz...and turnaround time is usually very reasonable. On another note, I've had four separate Bul 3.25ULs, three of them being the comped versions. I EDCd my first one with the stock plate and a Holosun 507K for more than 3 years and put about 4,000 rounds through it and didn't have my optic come off or lose zero one time. That sucks that you're having such issues with yours!!! Dave can fix it for way less than buying the new version with their optic cut... Whenever those start showing in stock.
You should see the patented mounting plate that BUL has for the new 2024 models. It has unreal support now with that integrated post.
@@ThePotandVineCo. Yes sir, I've seen it and it's very nice. But that isn't going to help out anyone having issues with gen 1 or Gen 2 Bul 3.25ULs with optic plate integrity issues unfortunately. Mine has been great, and I have thousands of rounds through it with zero POI shift, etc. But many others haven't been so lucky unfortunately. But there is a solution for those folks, DSC Gun works.
"6 inches is pretty big." Marco 13:46
I keep saying this to my wife but she just rolls her eyes...
Well considering 90% of dudes are out here walking around with 5 inches or less I’m happy to have 6” in my pants with me everyday 😂😂😂 👍🏼
not gonna lie man...like your old format reviews...the editing, cutting from your desk or whatnot to outdoor drills, etc... regardless, thanks for the content.
I appreciate that. Filming this way allows us to get more videos done. Going back and forth between the studio and range just made the production process two to three times longer.
Appreciate ya still watching 👍🏼👊🏻
Thank you for the video! God bless! Be safe! 🤙🪖👮🙏🇺🇸
Same to you! Thanks for watching.
This is the way!
At least for me, this has been at the top of my list for a while.
Yeah man digging the gun for sure.
Excellent as always, thanks Rodger
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!
Hey oh! Those Bul ported offerings look great glad you liked it. Hope the figure out that scrapping issue and you can get it to group. Guessing you haven't had this issue with any monsoon or vulcan services before?
Thanks! Bul took a look at the video footage and they think it is a small burr as well. Also, correct. In my other videos on ported guns, I show groupings at both distances with no issues. That’s what they think that there’s probably a burr in the barrel.
Dude, where are you shooting? I need to upgrade myself from clark county shooting range.
Still carrying my sas II 4.25 comp
Love it, although my grip has faded away by now to no texture
How do you like the sas ii 4.25 comp? Can it play both rolls effectively as a competition/duty pistol?
@@dominickcentineo6990 my opinion is yes , it’s light and shoots flat, the comp eats the carbon and it doesn’t fog up my x300. Slap on it a good optic and your set
You earned a new subscriber. I like your style. You explain things in a soothing way. I like the fact you are factual. Also, I've become a huge fan of Bul Armory in the past few months. Also love the Holosun 507 Comp, in green. I'm caught between the 2024 5" TAC PRO and the new Blaze. I'm leaning towards the Blaze. I was sold on the TAC PRO in 5", but the Blaze might be a better bet. Not sold on porting just yet. I do believe it works. But mainly shorter distances. Also my concern is the lack of quality in factory ammo. Affordable brand as well as more costly ammo manufacturers. Softer, cheaper leads. "Plated" FMJ... The short cornering of quality for increased profit can impact my ports more than the quality of the best ported barrel available. After watching your video, I'm definitely thinking Blaze is better for me. I'd love to see you get your hands on one & do a video! Any initial thoughts of the new Blaze?
Hope to see a follow up after
Bul Armory, looks at it. Thanks
EDM vs Drilling... no burrs!
Still sharp edges that have to be broken by lapping. Virtually no one seems to know this in the industry. A burr will eventually be removed by shooting. The crisp edges of the ports wheatear milled oor edm never go away. They have to be further finished for true accuracy.
KnifeMaker
Very impressive! Question - which is a better overall shooting experience, this or the Atlas Apollo? I want to get a premium ported 2011 to compete with my STI DVC P. Love the content!
If only they were available for purchase.
I mean like EVER!!!
Is this available to order? I've seen a couple of reviews for this gun but don't know where to try finding it. Unless I"m on another "Bul" armory site this isn't up yet.
For that cast that pistol, there should not be any excuse for parts not being fully deburr. The mark on the inside of the barrel will affect accuracy.
Rodger, I think the 25-yard mark is cursed 😂 good shooting, though. Would love to see u do a video on the glock store glock 19 with the speed rail slide 😎
Haha agreed! 25 yards is no bueno haha. I’ll have to check out the g19 speed rail. Haven’t heard of it yet.
Roger , did Bul Armory get back to you in regards to accuracy issue ? and if so will this issue be corrected for further production sales ? I would not want to buy a 2500 dollar gun with a 7 inch grouping at 25 yards
Looks like it was just a one off issue with my barrel. Other people have been filming their reviews with no issues. Bul is taking care of it by inspecting the barrel and either correcting the burr or fitting a new barrel. We will make a part two video showing the accuracy and also testing velocity and showing recoil with different grains of ammunition.
@@RogerBarrera Thanks for up date great to hear the issue is going to be resloved
Looking forward to the video as I was lucky enough to pick one up before it was sold out, hopefully yours is the only one with that issue.
It looks like the bending of the table might be causing it to shoot high. Maybe put the stand to the edge of the table and use a chair instead of leaning on a plastic table. It looks like the tisas is actually sitting a little flatter in the rest. The bul looks like its slightly pointed upwards
I adjust the bench rest to line the gun up with target. Even if it was higher the grouping should still be there. We have a new barrel coming which should solve the problem. We did find burrs with a micro camera we put inside the barrel
Beautiful gun bro 👍🏻💪
Is that Super Vel ammo "plated". If so, it's not a true metal jacket and will cause the shearing effect described in your video. This topic seems to be gaining momentum now that more folks are buying ported barrels. Lots of ported barrels getting fouled up by plated bullets.
I would group these pistols with decent self defense ammo whenever I have issues with a pistol grouping at 25yds ill go to some hst or Speer gold dot to completely rule out ammo but that's crazy with the deposits in the barrel
I'm shaking my computer looking at this model screaming "WHY CAN'T I BUY YOU?!?!?!?!" 😅
I was lucky. I have the 5" SAS2 Pro, but last years model. Great gun for the money!!!!
@AraAshjian777 I currently use a SAS TAC II ultra light that milled for a 509T at work, so I'm ready to upgrade 😎
Cool!!
get the new UL Pro and compare the recoil with this model! It has only 6 ports.
Love it!! 👍,, Any idea where I can buy one? 😅
My opinion….I don’t think it’s the porting…I think bul might be making the barrel too tight or it’s ammo issues=match the ammo with the gun…I typically get 3” groups at 25 yards from a bench with hand loads or some factory that I’ve found works best…if I saw lead coming out of the barrel I’d be worried one would get stuck in the barrel and a second shot=gun blows up…definitely wouldn’t be running speed drills out of it/immediately send it back
This is why I want the un-ported version
And to be fair, groups tend to open up when you port a barrel. No company is immune to this. But they do make an un-ported, non-“Pro” version that I will be getting. Best looking 2011 out there!
Nice video Rodjer. Was wondering how this would comparr to a Grandpower
What's the difference between the Tac Pro 5" and the Tac 5"? I see both on their site and they look the exact same, lol.
EDIT: Found them. I put them side-by-side in different tabs (they really should have a compare feature on the website, lol) and found the following differences:
1. Sights: The "Tac 5" has a serrated rear and fiber optic front sight, whereas the "Tac Pro 5" has serrated black front and rear sights. That's weird, I would think it would be the reverse (the standard model having the blacked-out sights, and the "Pro" model having the fiber optic front sight), but that's just me and I'm weird. Lol.
2. Barrel/slide: The "Tac 5" has the same slide cutouts for the V8 porting, but has no ports in the actual barrel, whereas the Tac Pro obviously has the cutouts AND the V8 porting. Why would they have the cutouts on the non-ported gun if they're not gonna port that model? That's just lazy manufacturing, lol. For mass-production guns like Bul Armory, they should have separate tooling that doesn't cut the slide for the non-ported model.
Man, those are pretty disappointing groups at 25y. I currently carry the previous version sas ii tac 5" and it'll print 1" groups at 25y all day. Infact it just crossed the 6k rnd mark on my last range session, so I decided to reconfirm my zero, and it threw down 1" 5 rnd groups with HST 124gr, federal AE 124gr, and blazer brass 124gr (with a POI shift for each of course).
I'm not the best 25y b8 shooter ever, but I spend at least 50-100 rnds practicing them every range session, so if the ported version can only manage 6" groups, that would be a no go for me. Sucks b/c I was pretty sweet on this thing.
Yeah, we’ll be doing part 2 when the gun comes back from Bul with a fixed or new barrel. Should be soon hopefully. Thanks for watching.
@@RogerBarrera awesome, I'll be looking forward to seeing the result!
Pistol performs well, good video Roger 👍
They just dropped and got my order in, can’t wait.
And they're gone again lol. Guess it stopped me from dropping some cash but I'm sad
Same here - snagged a Tac Pro 5”! I’m so pumped!
@@Copenhagen848 lm going to order as soon as they are back in stock. I found out that they offer a discount for veterans which is great
I definitely think you need to try some different ammo. Thinly plated ammo isn't reliable in some ported or comped barrels.
Blazer brass specifically states on their box not to use with ported or comped firearms.
Possibly, Bul took a look at the footage and said they think it’s definitely a burr. They’re gonna take a look so we can get it back on the range for testing.
How much does the standard barrel cost ? These new v8 Port jobs aren't that tested yet . Bore camera that barrel asap . It is very fast though, nice work.❤ I think those ports are losing too much velocity, test with your Chrono next time you come out see what you get. Its not stabilizing in flight.
AWwwwwwwww damn Roger just when I made up my mind on a affordable project pistol you review this pistol Aww damn! What is the MSRP on it? I think I saw around $1800? 😎
2,450
The BUL EDC that comes out later this year is 1850 and the EDC PRO is 2050 I believe. But after watching this if all there ported guns are opening up that bad at 25 I’m most likely just gonna go for the standard EDC instead of the pro version
@@andymola3911 Yeah I went to their site and saw it $2450 is coreect. Thank you, bruh 😎
@@2A-J.MAY94 Yeah its $2450... There goes that being a project pistol. Lol... 😎
I’ve got a 10 hole ported Glock 19 that I managed to group at about 3 inches at 25 yards rested.
Thats a shorter barrel and much less nice trigger too.
Very concerning grouping with this gun
Hey Rog, I am looking for a Level 2 Holster in Multicam for a TAC PRO 5... Ideally Safariland, but looking for some input.
Funny Pew-Wee just shoot the same gun the video before this on. and no problem with his groups with 115 gr
For sure, things happen. I have a preproduction sample and it probably just got missed in the QC process. BUL will get it squared away and we will bring it back out on the range.
I appreciate your transparency in your videos with the good and bad. I'm sure they will get it fixed up. I also appreciate BUL for not hand picking guns even when they know they'll be in the public spotlight.
@@stanlucas1932
Thank you, I appreciate you checking out the video and leaving some kind words. It means a lot to us.
I am on the waiting list for the new 2024 up dated 5 inch pro tac model , really like what they up dated on this all black gun , but not like the accuracy of this gun ?
Did Bul ever get back to you about this barrel issue? I kinda want to know before making this purchase.
Yep, just waiting on the new barrel
I'm hoping to get my first 2011 pistol soon and was strongly leaning toward the Bul Armory. However, having seen this grouping issue and reading that they only have a one year warrantee, I'm thinking I will widen my options. Am I reading too much in to this?
I’m sure ours was a one off. A new barrel has been installed and we are waiting for the gun to get back to us this week so we can take it back out.
@@RogerBarrera I will look forward to seeing that. Thank you.
I follow you but everytime RUclips does it’s algorithm and I watch you stuff I just want to buy your gear not what you’re showing. lol do you sell the holder for Zeroing your hand gun?
Any plans to make aAIWB for 4.25 and 5 Tac Pro’s. Maybe even with the Holosun PID HC light
We do under the “Other 2011” section on our website. PID fits our TLR1 holster perfectly
What are your thoughts on the sas ii 4.25 comp? Is it comparable to this or is this way better?
This feels a lot smoother for sure. Both are still great options.
How do you get on their wait list for this?
I’m not seeing it as an option on the website
I still think it's a ammunition issue with those remanufactured rounds. Ported barrels are very sensitive to rounds especially if they are plated and are not truly jacketed. Try a different type of ammunition and ill almost bet you'll get the accuracy you are expecting.
We have part two coming up. We tried factory new different brand ammunition, and still got the same results. I put a micro camera down the barrel and we could clearly see some small burrs. New barrel should be coming soon for part 2.
@@RogerBarrera ouch, hopefully they get it straightened out for you then. It's surprising how little it takes to mess it up at distance.
I know you're not done with the reviews because of the barrel issue, but would you say this is better or on par with a Staccato XC?
Very similar to the XC at a great price. Not as flat though.
@@RogerBarrera thanks for the reply. What would you say is the best flattest 2011 right under the XC price? It's really hard to find the right one without shooting them all to know lol
With a threaded barrel it would be perfect.
Shouldve bought 2 of these instead of an xc
Why 2?
Are those qvo tactical hoodies ???
Yessir! UPF to keep the sun off of us! Qvotactical.com
@@RogerBarrera Are you and your buddy wearing medium or large hoodies?
@@davidau112709 I’m wearing a large. I’m 5’8” 200, they fit the same as T-shirts. If you want it to be a little baggy, get one size up from your normal T-shirt.
@rogerbarrera y'all going to make holsters specifically for this and the 4.25 models?
Yes they fit our 2011s in 4.25 and 5” on the site
If porting is done right it doesn't effect accuracy. As long as gas pressure is applied equally on the bullet, there will not be an effect on accuracy. A barrel that is poorly comped will most defiantly effect accuracy.
Yeah that’s kinda what we were getting at in the video and why we think there is probably a burr in the barrel at one of the ports.
@@RogerBarrera Yes sir. I made that comment before finishing the video. Thank you for the reply.
hows the recoil without tactical light?
I mean is it a bill drill if it's outside the A-zone..😂 , for real nice shooting and nice gun.
Hi! Do you use the same screws that come with the holosun 507 comp to mount it?
I believe so
I’m all about it until I get those groupings at only 25 yards. Please do a follow up if possible
Yep! Follow up video we’ll be coming for sure!
How did Bul resolve the barrel issue?
I believe they replaced the barrel. I am waiting for it to get back through customs right now.
@@RogerBarrera wow they sent it back to Israel? Another guy in reddit is having the same issue with the barrel.
@@EDnesss no I think it’s a new barrel coming
My dot doest leave the window on my glock either. Its all about that grip not the gun.
Get the gun off the mag at 25, it's hopping off the mag under recoil and killing your accuracy, try resting it on the rail, dust cover, light, etc only
2500 and a high point groups better. No thanks
Great Vid 👍🏾 / I have seen so RUclipsrs come up with these idiotic test with flawed hypothesis and they’re trying to prove or disprove their suspicions or thoughts by using none identical materials such as poor ammo, or ammo that is not an apples to apples comparison so to say without a control to compare their findings against.
Thanks for trying to problem solve and use a methodical scientific approach instead of BS explanations and terrible rationalizations.
guns $2450 on there website this is far from affordable a staccato is almost the same price.
It is when you compare to the staccato xc.
@@Bergara65 if you almost 2500 you should just save and buy a staccato affordable is a tisas 9mm double stack
I think that they really hit a home run with this i just wish they would have dropped it in a 4.6 in slide
Anyone know who that target base is made by at 1:43?
TATargets
@@RogerBarrera Thanks
Does it have a firing pin block safety?
Your shooting reman ammo.. what did you expect... fire some new ammo and get the results
We tried factory new stuff as well. Same result. We’ll have part 2 coming when we get the new barrel in from Bul.
Some of the most accurate ammo I have shot was reman!!!
Rodger, you hit 6 shots on C-zone steel in 1:48 not a Bill Drill. Bill Drills are A-zone hits only. #KeepItReal
Yes we said it was Czone steel. 1:48 is still quick. I’m around 1.6-1.7 for all A-Zone. It’s also Roger not Rodger #GetItRight #SaySomethingNice
"Affordable" in this economy?! Ha! More like Tisas DS.
He's shooting way to close to the road. Lol
Get a new barrel.
why is everything compared to the xc i dont get references that poor
boo ports. comps look way better/cooler, comps when pre treated clean up super easy and keep the rest of your gun cleanm especially the top of your light and the end of the barrel and around the slide by the muzzle end doesnt turn black. after enough rounds ports make guns looks so dirty. the only way to avoid this is not have ports on the barrel and the slide. -- of which the only solution I can think of is an island barrel. island barrel ports are more like little comp openings further back than ports. porting really isnt a good solution when you can comp or island barrel port and they are way cooler and keep your gun clean not make it dirtier. we def need to see more island barrels. more 2011 manufacturers need to do island barrel. legion and hayes do thats it I think, and old stis. Someone really needs to step up for glock too. Zev hypercomp is ugly and sucks. trinity nevada slides don't even work. God I wish I could have my ideas developed by a machinist who could do what I could design. I feel like gun engineers/manufacturers are very unintelligent. If a smart person would actually start developing stuff it would be awesome.
Every time Marco talks my BS meter goes off.
Care to elaborate? Marco is pretty knowledgeable as he’s in the top 20 for ranked shooters in USPSA. He also works in manufacturing as a consultant. I think he brings a lot to the channel especially from the technical/comp side of things.
Yup sounds like a bs hater complaint! Carry on Marco‼️🤣
Tell that pop star quit hiding
The dot doesn't leave the window with a Glock 34. No doubt the Tac Pro 5 is a much better shooting gun than a Glock. Im just saying the dot not leaving the window is nothing special.
It’s definitely something I want in a handgun. I’ve got other guns where the recoil def has the dot leave my line of sight. It comes right back to zero with good grip and fundamentals but with this gun I notice a lot less recoil with the ports and it makes it much easier to track the dot. Especially when shooting through the iPhone camera to give you the POV. It’s a lot more difficult than people think to get that angle.
@@RogerBarrera Yes sir. Im sure getting it through an iphone is difficult. I was just talking about shooting the gun.
With prober connection to the gun keeping the dot in the window with any full size handgun with a Holosun 507 comp or SRO in 9mm shouldn't be a problem.
That gun would have grouped significantly better, with better ammo. That ammo was dog water.
And yet for part two we tried factory new stuff from different manufacturers and still got the same results. Maybe it’s the visible burr issue 🤷🏻♂️
Dont get ported guns. This is what they all do
Too many what ifs, next time dont publish the video until you find the actual problem. Certainly not helping Bul sell pistols. Super fast Bill Drills mean zip if you cant hit C Zone at 25. I love your videos but this one is a fail ...
I appreciate the feedback, however we follow a filming schedule. We’ll do a part 2 when the gun is fixed. I disagree that this is a fail. We film our videos with transparency and this is a great example of that.
It’s not my job to sell the Bul guns. I take the guns out and share my experience with them on the range. You may not agree but I’m not going to spend 5-6 hours filming on the range to wait another couple of weeks for the barrel issue to be fixed in order to publish our experience on the range.
Once we get the issue resolved we’ll produce another video on that. I think one might also argue that a little more QC should have been done before sending a gun out for review. 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks Roger for airing this video and not waiting. This could be the experience of any customer that dropped $2300. Take it from me because my Tac Pro has been sent back for a 3rd time.
@@MrPin1head thank you for the kind words and sorry to hear that. Hopefully they get you squared away.
2,500 and you put the word "affordable" 😂😂😂😂 WTF is wrong with you gun tubers
Bro we have the same name
There can only be one! Hahahah!