@@laurainathunderstorm 2015 and 2017 is pretty close, they don’t have a generation every 2 years. Svt are late 3rd gen so 3.5. Makes sense. But it’s not exactly an exact measure.
"Seungkwan's ability to communicate the emotions", WOW, I could not have said it better! That is exactly it! His singing has brought me to tears more than once! Highly suggest you watch his cover of "Sorry" as part of his participation in The Masked Singer, incredible!
Please don’t mind all the requesting comments. People literally comment video requests in every video for all reactors and while of course you want to cater for your viewers, just do whatever is manageable and preferable for you as people are bound to watch it either way.
DK was by far the youngest major cast member in Arthur alongside older, veteran musical theater actors. He quickly earned their respect. I can't remember if the guide said but his initial run in 2019 was so successful they asked him to reprise in 2021.
Seungkwan being your boy...i felt that. He quickly became my ult, not just in SvT but in all of kpop. And everytime i hear his vocals on a softer song i literally get chills. His vocals are just as stable and amazing live as well.
From what i remember ...Seungkwans school teacher sent footage of him singing to Pledis as they were recruiting at the time. He is actually from the Island of Jeju, a bit of a backwater, so never expected any opportunity to become a singer. Pledis got lucky, Seungkwan got lucky, and I think its fair to say we all got lucky as a result. I could listen to him sing the phone book his voice is amazing. He has had a rough time this year as his very close friend Moonbin [of Astro] died, he had to drop out from work for months to grieve, so we are all rooting for him atm, it hit him very hard.
42:28 kerry shifting her head and simon saying that's prolly the weirdest thing he's seen anyone done is one of the most relatable things as a carat LOL sometimes the things svt does are so questionable that i'm like "wait did that just happen??!" 🤣 often to the point of secondhand embarrassment HAHA there's also a series on YT called "The s in svt stands for secondhand embarrassment, the v in svt stands for variety kings and the t in svt stands for teasing" which is a great supplement to this super long guide since they dive into their dynamic as a group!!!
Something with Joshua which I think doesn't get apreaciated enough is that because he was born in LA it meant he didn't know Korean. His mum was korean so he went to a Korean church and heard the odd word here and there but it wasn't till he was 18 that he really spoke it. I think because he looks korean and his mum knows korean it's assumed he spoke it growing up but in a recent interview Hoshi talked about how much he admired Shua cause he came to Korea not knowing any korean but worked really hard to overcome that and learn korean. Something I've also noticed is that to this day he still shys a way from reading or writing korean which I think is cause he still lacks confidence in it but doesn't want to be misunderstood.
Seungkwan is also the one whose voice instantly caught my attention when i heard it first and probably the only male singer who is able to bring tears in my eyes. He is just such a precious little guy
19:48 they've moved dorms multiple times that's why the roommates have reshuffled but currently Mingyu and Wonwoo live together 28:29Jeonghan and Seungkwan also live together. they even have a family portrait just the two of them hanging on their wall lol but they're not a ship like MinWon (the rest probably lives on their own now.)
Pretty sure Woozi lives with Hoshi now. Wonwoo and Mingyu and Jeonghan and Seungkwan. And I’m pretty sure Vernon lives with DK and Dino (?) but not 100% on that one
@inzaghiscornsalad7034 Maybe or maybe not(?) but he does have a separate apartment(?) for when his mom does come to korea if i remember correctly. +minghao also lives on his own. he mentioned it's also more convenient this way when his parents come to korea to visit as well.
I have to say, Seungkwan has become my favorite male vocalist of all time. Of any nationality. His technical ability, coupled with the emotional power he puts into his singing is almost peerless. Oh, Joshua and Jeonghan have been referred to as the evil twins, because of their tendency to cheat and their similar looks.
49:38 svt are considered as 3rd gen! and vocally speaking dk got one of the fullest voices in kpop (my personal fav) but vocal wise seungkwan have more control over all^^ especially in his belting (one of the best and healthier belter in all kpop) also against both jongho and seungmin: dk is more experience in general so it’s kinda unfair to put them against him (they’re both VERY good but considering dk is one of the best vocalist in kpop especially in regard of rage and a sunbae to them it’s still kinda unfair). ps: i’m talking technically since ofc tone wise it’s all about preference (also i’m sorry if i explained myself kinda roughly but english is not my first language)
I think they compared DK to Jongho and Seungmin because they thought Seventeen is a 4th gen group like Ateez and Stray Kids and therefore put those three together instead of comparing DK with other 3rd gen vocalists like EXO's vocal line for example, but I totally agree with your comment!
Funfact: Seungkwan and Jeonghan are two of the members that moved in together (Wonwoo and Mingyu live together as well) even after SVT moved out and stopped living together. But you're right their methods of playing games (unless it's sports) do not align 😭 Seungkwan is quickly annoyed and wants to win while Jeonghan is too relaxed and there to have fun even if he has to sabotage the game.
Seventeen are 3rd gen! Although it's easy to be confused, seeing as they are one of, if not the only remaining 3rd gen boy group still active alongside the current 4th/5th gen groups
I know it seems like alot, but I find learning these 13 members is easier than other groups. I think because for me, there is so much of a difference between the 13, that it is easy to tell them apart. Thank you for posting this today. We have been gifted so much content to chill to.
Thank you!! Btw, Seventeen is definitely a 3rd gen group. They debuted in 2015 and the 4th gen started in 2018/late 2017! As for incredible vocal lines in Kpop other than Seventeen, there is EXO, BTOB (as you already know), SHINee and NCT as well, especially Jonghyun, Taeil, Doyoung and Xiaojun! I also think that Monsta X, Kihyun in particular, has great singers as well!
I just finished watching part 3, this was so on time lol. Edit: 21:42 --> Actually with "," and "." you can move back and forward just a frame. For the future.
it was Lee mujin service when Seungkwan sing....i think you should react to it too...carats will love it for sure....lee mujin also praise him in that song and the whole show...
Seungkwan (my bias) was in The Devil's Plan on Netflix. It was like one of those mystery games where a group of ppl have to solve puzzles to stay in the game. You could see a lot of his personality. He was the sweetest, cutest thing. 💗
A note on the svt introverts thing-- Hoshi is a classic introvert IMO. We as fans see a skewed version of him bc we always see him around Seventeen. Seventeen are his family, his people. He's known them since childhood. He's comfortable with them, which means he's more openly himself. So we almost always see this loud, open person, because he's with people he knows well and trusts. But when he's with people he doesn't know, he closes up. He gets quiet. He's not the loud goofy tiger boi, he's uncomfortable and awkward. Hoshi and DK are both like this, as are a lot of the svt introverts to a lesser extent!
You're right Jun Joshua and Jeonghan are very pretty like they're already pretty in their daily life and in MVs but then I see them at fashion events or in photoshoot settings and like their beauty and prettiness is genuinely shocking
1:18:57 about biases in Seventeen... It's always going to be tough. Even after years in this fandom (from 2019 ) its still difficult to have just 1 bias because they all so great. But my ult bias is DK and Wonwoo as i have already mentioned in one of my previous long comment. It's completely ok and more than appreciated if you have multiple biases, because these boys deserve all the love they get ❤
I swear Pledis is really good at recruiting amazing vocalists. Nu’est, the group who came before them also have great vocals. Just last week Pledis debuted a new boygroup called TWS which is the first group they’ve debuted since Seventeen in 2015! TWS are also extremely talented vocally
all of seventeen are so nice and genuine. one of my favorite clips of them is hoshi talking about them being to school and how he admired dk's shoes, but they were expensive and he couldnt afford them. so he asked dk if he could wear his shoes just once to school, and dk very happily and without any doubt said of course. many years later coming to the present, young members of a mew group talking about how hoshi has been buying expensive shoes for them to make sure they can use them to dance properly.
It's true and I super agree that Seungkwan is good at communicate when his singing. Example the Nana Tour ep 5 that I've watched apparently there's no subtitle yet when I watch it,I was laughing at the performance of the members and when Seungkwan's time to sing I started crying nonstop because I just felt his emotions that time, especially when you know that his best friend Moonbin died.
You should watch seventeen hit the road next... It's the show where the members interview showed in the guid... It's emotional rollercoaster.. you will love it...vit contains episodes for each member
48:36 LOL Seventeen is 3rd gen! From what I’ve seen, most vocal analysis that I’ve seen consider Seungkwan to be the 4th best male vocalist in K-POP (respectively after D.O., Chen, and Baekhyun of EXO) and DK to be the 7th (after Taeil and Doyoung of NCT). From what I’ve heard, his ranking is because although DK can effortlessly hit high notes, he often strains his voice while going into upper registers. His belting voice is also fairly on the weaker side, however he has wonderfully control and can seamlessly transitions to his head voice. He has such a great tone as well that can send shivers down anyone’s spine. I could listen to his voice all day.
Thank you for finishing all parts of the guide. We truly appreciate it. I hope you’ll continue your journey with Carats and Seventeen. There are so much more you can watch especially the dance practices, live performances, their reality shows In the Soop and their variety show, Going Seventeen. You won’t regret it especially their mafia games. They are all smart, funny and competitive. In terms of the light stick, i personally love version 2. Its brighter and still have their group color serenity and rose quartz. Thank you again.
1:17:03 sadly ver 2 is actually phased out but you can purchase a 2nd hand or old stocks from 3rd party resellers. official stores dont sell it anymore. ver 3 is very customizable though.
OMG. I was about to take a shower after watching the previous part of the guide reaction LOL. I didn’t expect thisss. Thank you! Congrats for finishing the guide!
I also wanna add that you can pronounce Woozi’s name with the Z sound or with the J sound (Wooji/Uji). But in Korean, it is pronounced as Uji. I think they just made it with Z sound for his English name to make it sound cooler.
For light sticks, version 2 is the prettiest one of them all (but i love version 1 too). Sadly, the company made it so now it won't connect to the bluetooth concerts. Only version 3 will connect. Most fans hate version 3 😅with some fans fully customizing it. So i would say get 2 for the cuteness or get 3 if you ever plan to see them in concert 😅😊. SVT Is middle of 3rd gen. They are actually part of the top 3 of the generation, aka EBS (EXO, BTS, and Seventeen 😊) I know you are all busy but when you get a chance in the future i would recommend checking out TVXQ killing voice. There is only 2 members currently (used to be 5 but the rest sued SM in 2009 and left) and they debuted in 2003 at a Brittany Spears and Boa showcase. Changmin's vocals are out of this world. Also, they started 2nd generation and just celebrated their 20th anniversary. Anyways, I love your videos and your tangents 😂❤
As an aside, if you haven't seen the video Woozi uploaded during the NANA tour of him doing pull-ups shirtless, it's worth a watch. *cough* Also he was 26 when he won that producing award. 26. He's a straight up genius and Seventeen is so lucky to have him (and they know it).
As a DK biased carat (and Wonwoo based as well ☺️) i understand where the thought oh he looks mature comes from. He is one handsome and beautiful human. It's kinda funny because he is so hilarious that people often overlook the fact that he is absolutely gorgeous... The first ever Seventeen song i heard was funnily enough was through a fancam of DK for the song - Good To Me ..... And that was life changing. I am DEVOTED to DK because of that. So anyways, that was a bit too much info .. but DK has one of the best, if not THE best vocals , in the entirety of k-pop. Seungkwan ofcourse is whole power house vocalist and i do love him. DK just happes to have a very very special place in my heart. And as fellow Wonwoo biased carat it is my duty to tell you that 24 Hour Wonwoo fancam exists and you should know about that 😂 I am sorry for the unnecessarily long comment, which I don't if you will even read amongst the many many others, but I am so thankful for all the content you guys put out and it also brings me joy to watch you enjoy with us. ❤
Thank you simon and kerry ☹️ i have no idea how you do 16 videos a week on top of having a real LIFE to live!!!! So thank you please know i appreciate you both sooo much 💕💕💕 PS: I'd love for you guys to get v2 of the Carat lightstick but unfortunately they're only selling v3 now as the latest. You'd probably need to find a v2 in a secondhand market!
I said this on the community post but if you would be willing to make a patreon i’m sure many of us would definitely pay a monthly subscription for reactions that don’t manage to get through the copyright stuff (e.g. japanese mvs, some variety shows if you guys start that)
Thank you for uploading this! I know that you guys have a lot of songs to get through, but I definitely recommend reacting to Cheers, which is the song made by the leaders of the units (Scoups, Hoshi, Woozi)!!
Hi! Thank you sm for the reaction, I always look forward for your Seventeen reactions, I haven't finished yet but iI couldn't help but to point out that Jeonghan really doesn't like being called mom of the group, or you could call it, he doesn't follow that agenda nor the members, that's why Caratline17 put it as the Counselor of the group that's how he always calls himself
Yes!!! Agreed! ❤😇❤ Same thing goes for the Hoshi hamster thing... He's already made it VERY CLEAR, so many times over the years, that it really bothers & hurts him (stemming from worries about his looks when he was younger, and the constant comparison of his cheeks to a hamster's), yet for some reason, a lot of "fans" still don't show him enough respect or care to just stop doing it. Even though he is always good-natured about it, it really is seriously mean and just not a very nice thing to do, especially when you know you could really be hurting someone's feelings by unsuccessfully trying to be "funny" by calling other people names. 😥😥😥 ❤🐯❤
it can be pronounced wooji, uji, woozi etc. he says all variations of them although it does stem from the nickname uri (our) jihoon which they called him predebut
also seungkwan was asking how he'd buy it because they were currently on tour in the US.. lol. he knows how to purchase it, his concern was getting it back to south korea
oof two hours, that's tough man, I'm sad that it happened, but I'm so glad you guys decided to do this today after all, I got so surprised when I saw the notif, I thought I was seeing things lol
Like Seventeen is my Ult group but when Kerry said Suga is her bias and Jin can’t decide I was like hs, Same! Every seventeen video I watch with yous I relate more and more always sing left and right, also shout WET 🙈😂 Personally I’m a multi fan on many Kpop groups and yes jonho from ateez and jk bts and so on have such amazing voices but personally I think DK has one of the best in the entire industry, the clearness, he doesn’t struggle or move or lean down to give it his all to push out to hit those notes he just stands up straight clear and it’s just overall well rounded altogether. He sings with such passion and emotion it’s scary you feel what he sings! It’s the same as you said for Seungkwan about the communication and emotions. Also the crying easily that one clip was not enough honestly DK and Seungkwan and pure emotional boys at it is so gorgeous to see! But they are comedians them two, they are hilarious. DK is known as the sunshine of the group because of how loving caring and pure he is. DK could honestly sing those notes in his sleep honestly with the amount of singing he does it would not surprise me but yet again got to love him for it. I have both versions 2 and 3 lightsticks but still prefer version 2 version 3 became very Hybe 😂 more simplistic. If it is for display purposes definitely version 2 but if will use in near future then version 3 Seventeen is a very difficult group to have a bias mine always alternates in order with Jeonghan Joshua Jun Wonwoo and woozi but dk always remain top or very highhhhh up But then of course all the over members like it’s just soo Difficult they all have their time to shine and steal the spotlight so there is never a set order. So don’t get me wrong I LOVE ALL THE MEMBERS there’s none better than the other of course people just have preferences.
while jun and jeonghan are my favorite vocalists in svt (tho jun is my favorite period across all music), seokmin and seungkwan i think truly are THE best. chen really is the only other person i can think of that has a more impressive voice than them and even he's complimented seungkwan's vocals before!
Oh, and Boo Seungkwan is a vocal master....one of the best in the game! He may even be better than DK. Ugggh. Give em both a good listen and dont forget to check out Hui's voice in Pentagon.
Loved your reaction! Just to clarify your question about what Gen they are, they are 3rd gen (2012-2017) as they debuted in 2015 and I love DK's vocals he's definitely in the top vocals in kpop for me and it's completely up to preferences but there are many groups who came after that also have incredible vocals.
Thank you guys. I'm really enjoying being on this journey with you. Btw, have you watched 24H dance practise? Because at least that won't be blocked. 😊 China Line is definitely something special. Also, it's so difficult to have a bias in Seventeen. They literally all get you in different ways. You can't help but just love them all.
1. Woozi comes from Uji it‘s the shortform of what everyone at pledis called him „Uri Jihoon/-ie“ (Our Jihoon) [A/N: which is surprisingly only the second biggest uri inside joke because a male fan yelled Uri Boo at Seungkwan so loudly that it‘s forever in uri hearts lol] 2. Yes Seungkwan likes the way Jeonghan just brings plain chaos into the games as much as I do lol I mean I love hime, but it frustrates the hell out of me! Even tho they are a unit and get along very much, as evident by both of them still dorming together while everyone else split up into living alone (+ Meanie= Mingyu and Wonwoo) They are known as the eternal roommates of the group (even tho they didn‘t room together from the start as Seungkwan roomed with Chan(Dino) a lot in their early days I think. 3. The show Joshua and DK were on is called My alkohol Diary in ghe earlyer days there was no alkohol involved and it was just like an interview with something to eat and Seungkwan was on it(afterwards him and host Youngji released a cover of Juice so watch that right afte please). When alk came on the table Hoshi was on it (also had dance practice afterwards which we have a hilarious video of) and then DK and Josh went on it(which was after BooSeokSoon collabed with Youngji on their comeback song! so that is a must watch too!). I would recommend watching in that order^^ 4. 4th gen starts in 2018, Seventeen is late 3rd gen 5. Yes Seventeen has two of the top ten male vocalists of the 3rd generation (and both were on The King of Masked singer + Hoshi). Chen being Nr 1 and Seungkwan about 3rd to 5th place and Dk around 8th place (Chen said Seungkwan is a fellow singer that he respects after seeing his cover of WiFi on the same show he said it on like a few weeks later) 6. YES Seungkwan was on Lee Mujin Service! Please please please react to it, it has so little view compared to the masterpiece that this episode is! It‘s literally my favorite singing video on the internet! His way of captivating his audience is astonishing! (Also 3/4th of the performance unit was on Lee Mujin after him, first Hoshi, then Jun, then Dino)
Thank you, love seventeen, Thai pop also has started making waves. Jeff Satur’s Ghost dropped last week, other reactors have reacted to it so it won’t be blocked.
I've been a fan of KPOP for a long time but just started to follow Seventeen and NCT closely last year and I just can't deal with all their talent . They are just amazing ❤
for the lightstick i think most carats really love version 2 bc it's so pretty but im not sure if it's still available for purchase, and it doesnt sync during concerts anymore svt has been hinting on another tour maybe at the 2nd half of the year so maybe you can wait until then? if they would release another lightstick version???
Apart from awesome SVT vocals, BTOB are famous powerful vocalists. You can start from their Killing Voice and then check out their live stages ❤ I really love svt vocal unit, they always make me cry, especially uri boo
More comments from me! They're late 3rd Gen. I just watched a video ranking Top 10 boy band vocals. Seungmin from Stray Kids and Jung Ho of ATeez were in there, but our own DK was 4th and Boo (Seungkwan - sorry if that's misspelled) was 1st. I think DK should've been higher (SVT is my ult group), but I console myself that both of our main vocalists finished in the top 5.
IMHO Dokyeom and Seungkwan remain two of the best vocalists in Kpop even compared to 4th and 5th gen, especially given that they were trained in the 3rd gen. I think the focus in training new groups is currently dance > vocals which means newer kpop groups just can't hold a candle to these two vocally. Also-- when comparing groups I think it is important to note that Seungmin was not meant to be the main vocalist of skz, he just got stuck with it when Woojin was booted. I love skz but their focus is rap and their vocalists don't hold a candle to svt's vocalists IMO. Technically I believe Seungkwan is the stronger vocalist over Dokyeom but they're both so good. Seungkwan historically has been better, but Dokyeom has the more recent musical training, which gives him a boost. Either way, they are both so strong, and I love both of their voices so much.
YAYYYYY we made it to my bias's unit!!!!!! You are such liars. I was ready to wait. But today is ACTUALLY my birthday so.... you did it for my birthday. Thank you. My day and Boo Seungkwan day! (yeah the Japanese MVs can be... real blocktastic. I'm not sure if I've ever seen a reaction to 24H?) There's a cat! You both look soft and cozy. I mean your clothing. It's nice. SIMON SWEATER PAWS cause Woozi is too talented! Seungkwan and Jeonghan roommates - I see someone already mentioned their portrait wall to you as well hahaha they are so funny. Joshua Jeonghan fun funny charismatic sides of a coin. DK the most precious, a literal sunshine. And SEUNGKWAN!!!! The most skilled and brilliant vocalist. My biases - Wendy and Seungkwan. Something they absolutely have in common - their emotive ability. They communicate so clearly through their vocals. Definitely check out both LMJ. SEUNGKWAN SEXY! heyyyyyyy Thank youuuuu P.S. - China line for some reason :D That's what I've heard
To answer your question about DK's vocals: KIHYUN from MONSTA X has very similar vocals to DK in terms of ability, and they came around a year or so after Seventeen!
Just so you know for future videos! If you want to micro rewind or fast forward so you can see things that go by fast like Woozi's pool photo. If you pause and click the () key is fast forward!
30:51 jeonghan and seungkwan live together, after some members went to live alone or in other places, Mingyu and wonwoo also live together if I remember correctly, they must be together🥹.
Btw I'm an Introvert like Hoshi myself... I am loud and annoying and bright and leaderlike but I really am just nervous and stressed inside and wanna go home. Psychology says that introversion vs extroversion is literally ONLY about how we PROCESS the energy we've received from others... if it drains us and we need to recharge, then it's introversion. If it energizes us and being alone is what drains us, then it's extroversion. That simple. =) And Hoshi does show his introvert side when he is around strangers or if he goes by himself to somewhere as a challenge.
Hi, i am back. Good reaction, ty. Ok i subbed. U both are lovely and so funny. And i really love how much u love the guys. Love the scarf i have a soft spot for purple being army and all. =0} I am learning about Seventeen so finding this was fun. Though i have seen the full 3 hr long guide multiple times my memory is not great so i need to rewatch. Rock with U is my fav song from them. =0} I like Wonwoo. He cute. Was Hoshi bias because of Suchwita a drinking show on here from Suga of BTS. =0p Woozie was on it too. I am still pretty new fan. So lots to learn. Jeonghan biased now and Joshua wrecker. Jeonghan was a problem in Super and so was Joshua. 0.o Hoshi be wilden often. o.o I am bad with tech too, lol. I love that he agrees with Taemin's (maknae of Shinee) mentality. Aww, he a Shawol(Shinee's fandom). Cute. He adores Key (rapper from Shinee) well that explains a lot, lol. I like this groups dynamic too. Very interesting. Woozi has slowly impressed me more and more after Suchwita. But i still protest he does not look like Yoongi at all!!! Humph. lol.Kerry surprised u did not notice them playing BTS fire during Seungkwan part. =0p They all so talented. I am taking notes. This was fun. Hugs. -NY USA 2019 Army💜 Very few mixed race individuals make it in Kpop the two most popular to do so are Vernon and Somi. @El-vq8tx said on 10/8/23 Vernon was bullied by other kids because he was mixed and he actually dropped out of middle school when he was accepted as a trainee. It’s very sad that he had to stop his education and couldn’t grow up like everyone else, he actually talks about it in the first performance clip in his section in the hiphop unit song “Trauma”. They all talk about their own struggles and his part is about how he had no friends and had to drop out of 8th grade. It seems that his younger sister attended an international school, so she didn’t experience the same prejudice. It’s just devastating that their family had to go through that experience and realize their children can’t mingle with the other kids safely bcs society “others” them. @just_meow1279 said on 6/15/22 Other facts about them: -SCOUPS is the youngest in the Choi family but the oldest in Seventeen. -Dino is the oldest in his family but the youngest in Seventeen. -Woozi is an only child in his family but he sits in the middle (7) so that makes him the middle of Seventeen. -Woozi has low tolerance in alcohol so he doesn't drink and he has a sort of allergy reaction (reddish skin) when he drinks alcohol -their ages form a diamond 95 95 95 96 96 96 96 97 97 97 98 98 99 -Hoshi once watched Dino perform and he said that Dino will be a good dancer and they ended up on the same group. -The8 saw the 17 project on tv and now he is one of the members💗 -their bestfriends with monsta x (carats and monbebes are married couple) @animals14life said on 6/15/22 ‘It’s insane they have so many talented people’ and when you know that only 3 of them actually auditioned, and that the other 10 were street casted/scouted???? Makes it even more insane istg 🤯 @El-vq8tx said on 8/5/32 Cute fact: S.coups is the oldest in SVT but the youngest in his family, Woozi is directly in the middle in SVT but is an only child in his own family, and Dino is the Maknae in SVT but the oldest in his family. It's a really cute dynamic because you get Coups who's a very affectionate and playful oldest member, Woozi who grew up alone being showered with love by having 6 people older than him and 6 people younger than him, and Dino who's a mature maknae and tends to be the emotional backbone for his members. @VaniACarat said on 8/5/32 💎An important/interesting fact: Universe Factory (우주공장) is the name of Woozi's & Bumzu's studio. Is a combination of both of their names, with the (우)지 from Woozi and the 범(주) from Bumzu 💖 Both are the main composers/producers of seventeen and they have their own personal studios under universe factory, Woozi's room (from Woozi) and Prism Filter (from Bumzu). Bumzu used to be Seventeen's singing teacher when they were trainees but they became close because there wasn't that much of an age difference. He was the one who taught Woozi how to produce professionally. And all of us carats love him so much ❤ He is known as the 14th member. + If at any time you review the lyrics of the songs, the 'seventeenlyrics' channel is the most recommended because it offers correct translations and detailed credits. @0becalp325 said on 89/30/23 Woozi solo song: Ruby (all in english) 11:33 Smile Flower 12:00 Hug 13:04 and 22:47 Falling for U 22:55 2 minus 1 36:30 DK cover of Yang Da Il 'she didn't love me' ruclips.net/video/v3UW6oTw_ks/видео.html&pp=ygUIZGsgY292ZXI%3D 37:27 Seventeen performing Tell Me on Immortal Songs 38:30 We gonna make it shine 2017 version 38:37 Kidult 49:47 idk the name of the song but that's the video ruclips.net/video/apcP6iaZUCk/видео.html&pp=ygUPc2V1bmdrd2FuIGRpbmdv 50:20 cover of an ost ruclips.net/video/vEcJ9Up32ag/видео.html&pp=ygUcc2V1bmt3YW5nIGJlYXV0aWZ1bCB0b21vcnJvdw%3D%3D for the other songs,i think they were written on the video while they were singing,like 'Don't Listen In Secret' @laurenstendel9111 said on 10/4/22 Fun fact about Jun as you were wondering about his dance background, he is actually the only member of the Performance Unit that didn't have any dance background coming into Pledis. However, he did wushu and kung fu (I'm pretty sure it was specifically those) since he was young, and some of the movements probably transferred over well. @lapillity said on 10/4/22 The show with all the Pepsi logos that showed up in jun and Minghao's parts is CYZJ! you can find the episodes on CYZJ subs RUclips channel. honestly it's a show i recommend all carats watch, i think it was sort of a turning point/growth moment for both of them, but jun especially. there are sides of jun on that show that to this day i haven't seen in any of their contents, you really get to know him through the course of the show ;-;
Wow!! Thank you so much for this. We really, really appreciate you for all the time you took to gather and share this with us. We are thoroughly enjoying our journey into the diamond life. We've got a long way to go but every step so far has been incredible. Jun doing kung fu wasn't on my radar at all 🤯
Yvw. =0} They are really fun. They give of to me BTS energy, lol. Jun was not on my radar period. But now he a wrecker sometimes. =0p @@alongfortheridereacts
1:18:28 Don't worry guys you are already doing a lot and we've been enjoying the videos and will continue to enjoy just don't feel stressfull for uploading videos
6:02 It's alright to refer to him as Woozi with a Z as you guys usually pronounced it. The reason being that the Korean language does not have the Z sound, so they say it as J. In English interviews, Woozi even introduces himself as Woozi with Z. Therefore, it is simply the Korean pronunciation of his name.
I love the v2 lightstick but currently it's out of production. I recently got a second hand v2 from a second hand website tho. The price was similar or a tad bit more than the original price since v2 is so much loved and in demand. I also have the v3, new, but that's cuz I recently went to Follow to Bangkok concert and got it from the concert merch store. Btw v3 only connects in concert venues. Also I got my secondhand v2 after v3. If I had gotten my v2 before v3, I think i would have just carried my v2 to the concert even if it doesnt connect cuz its so prettyyy! But I did have a good time with v3 getting sync in the concert. Me and few other carats nearby me and in other sections did had a bit of sync issue in Day2 of the concert tho idk why. Not sure if thats a normal thing to happen, cuz its my first ever concert ever. We kept trying but it wast syncing. I was with to other carats, one's got synced like 15min before the show started, mine got synced 10min before and the 3rd girls like 2-3 min before. I heard few others also had a bit issue in other sections and one carats v3 disconnected midway apparently. she was telling me later on. But yea i did enjoy a lot. I decorated my v3 with ribbons and whatever was being sold outside concert venue. There were many who covered their v3 with skins or rhinestones. Hehe. Hope you get the lightstick you wish to get and sorry for the longgg comment.
Simon, Kerry HAD to show the cat! What if Wonwoo watches this video? He loves cats. Seventeen is, in fact, 3rd gen. My favorite 4th gen male idol vocalist is probably Keeho from P1Harmony. Different type of singer than DK. Not so much a power belter. Think R&B with a sprinkling of jazz. Honestly, if you manage to get a Version 2 lightstick, please let me know where you bought it. Pronounce it "N-Citizens". Also, I never realized there was a BST. I've only ever known GMT.
I feel like at one point everyone mistook jeonghan and Joshua For each other or thought they look alike it part of becoming a carat lol, it's been probably 4 months since I became a carat and when I tell you I struggled I mean it I'm pretty good with names and faces I got them down in 3 day but i struggled sm with hannie and shua like i could tell them apart if their separate but when their together I got so confused and it didn't make it better that their like known for basically being each others first bestie in svt and also them being the same age same height and sometimes same hair color or hair styles, and getting their verses back to back both being vocalists so it was so hard for me but after a week I finally made it lmao fun fact when jeonghan joined pledis joshua was the first to come up to hom and talk and they joined around the same time I believe only a month apart so they became really close they would do everything together and jeonghan said people would think he's Joshua multiple times lol, also a cute fact is once one of them wanted to give up training and leave I think is Joshua and jeonghan said if your leaving I'll leave with you and if you stay ill stay with you it's so cute I LOVE THEM ❤️
Also a 3rd Gen performer, Yoo Hweseung from N.Flying is a singer who has the power and range of DK. Though two years older he debuted two years later than did DK. Lots of examples of his power vocals on RUclips including his many appearances on KBS's Immortal Songs programme in addition to covers, collaborations and live N.Flying shows.
Seventeen debuted in 2015 so they are 3rd gen alongside BTS, Exo, BlackPink, Twice, and many many others.
yep yep
Arguably 3.5 gen, but definitely not 4th
I don't think 3.5 is close either, I'd consider groups that debuted in early 2017 to be 3.5
@@laurainathunderstorm 2015 and 2017 is pretty close, they don’t have a generation every 2 years. Svt are late 3rd gen so 3.5. Makes sense. But it’s not exactly an exact measure.
"Seungkwan's ability to communicate the emotions", WOW, I could not have said it better! That is exactly it! His singing has brought me to tears more than once! Highly suggest you watch his cover of "Sorry" as part of his participation in The Masked Singer, incredible!
34:51 You are right, Joshua speaks english in ✨cursive✨
I heard this said once about Sammy from The Rose, and I think it also applies to NIve. They sing in cursive.
@@tea_jayy i never thought about sammy but now that i do, i think youre right lol
Please don’t mind all the requesting comments. People literally comment video requests in every video for all reactors and while of course you want to cater for your viewers, just do whatever is manageable and preferable for you as people are bound to watch it either way.
Type shit
DK was by far the youngest major cast member in Arthur alongside older, veteran musical theater actors. He quickly earned their respect. I can't remember if the guide said but his initial run in 2019 was so successful they asked him to reprise in 2021.
Seungkwan being your boy...i felt that. He quickly became my ult, not just in SvT but in all of kpop. And everytime i hear his vocals on a softer song i literally get chills. His vocals are just as stable and amazing live as well.
From what i remember ...Seungkwans school teacher sent footage of him singing to Pledis as they were recruiting at the time. He is actually from the Island of Jeju, a bit of a backwater, so never expected any opportunity to become a singer. Pledis got lucky, Seungkwan got lucky, and I think its fair to say we all got lucky as a result. I could listen to him sing the phone book his voice is amazing. He has had a rough time this year as his very close friend Moonbin [of Astro] died, he had to drop out from work for months to grieve, so we are all rooting for him atm, it hit him very hard.
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42:28 kerry shifting her head and simon saying that's prolly the weirdest thing he's seen anyone done is one of the most relatable things as a carat LOL sometimes the things svt does are so questionable that i'm like "wait did that just happen??!" 🤣 often to the point of secondhand embarrassment HAHA there's also a series on YT called "The s in svt stands for secondhand embarrassment, the v in svt stands for variety kings and the t in svt stands for teasing" which is a great supplement to this super long guide since they dive into their dynamic as a group!!!
Something with Joshua which I think doesn't get apreaciated enough is that because he was born in LA it meant he didn't know Korean. His mum was korean so he went to a Korean church and heard the odd word here and there but it wasn't till he was 18 that he really spoke it. I think because he looks korean and his mum knows korean it's assumed he spoke it growing up but in a recent interview Hoshi talked about how much he admired Shua cause he came to Korea not knowing any korean but worked really hard to overcome that and learn korean. Something I've also noticed is that to this day he still shys a way from reading or writing korean which I think is cause he still lacks confidence in it but doesn't want to be misunderstood.
Seungkwan is also the one whose voice instantly caught my attention when i heard it first and probably the only male singer who is able to bring tears in my eyes. He is just such a precious little guy
19:48 they've moved dorms multiple times that's why the roommates have reshuffled but currently Mingyu and Wonwoo live together
28:29Jeonghan and Seungkwan also live together. they even have a family portrait just the two of them hanging on their wall lol but they're not a ship like MinWon (the rest probably lives on their own now.)
scoups lives with his elder brother but i'm not sure about the rest
Pretty sure Woozi lives with Hoshi now. Wonwoo and Mingyu and Jeonghan and Seungkwan. And I’m pretty sure Vernon lives with DK and Dino (?) but not 100% on that one
@@95Emink Does joshua live with his mom?
@inzaghiscornsalad7034 Maybe or maybe not(?) but he does have a separate apartment(?) for when his mom does come to korea if i remember correctly.
+minghao also lives on his own. he mentioned it's also more convenient this way when his parents come to korea to visit as well.
I have to say, Seungkwan has become my favorite male vocalist of all time. Of any nationality. His technical ability, coupled with the emotional power he puts into his singing is almost peerless. Oh, Joshua and Jeonghan have been referred to as the evil twins, because of their tendency to cheat and their similar looks.
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49:38 svt are considered as 3rd gen! and vocally speaking dk got one of the fullest voices in kpop (my personal fav) but vocal wise seungkwan have more control over all^^ especially in his belting (one of the best and healthier belter in all kpop) also against both jongho and seungmin: dk is more experience in general so it’s kinda unfair to put them against him (they’re both VERY good but considering dk is one of the best vocalist in kpop especially in regard of rage and a sunbae to them it’s still kinda unfair).
ps: i’m talking technically since ofc tone wise it’s all about preference
(also i’m sorry if i explained myself kinda roughly but english is not my first language)
I think they compared DK to Jongho and Seungmin because they thought Seventeen is a 4th gen group like Ateez and Stray Kids and therefore put those three together instead of comparing DK with other 3rd gen vocalists like EXO's vocal line for example, but I totally agree with your comment!
they (DK & Seungkwan) got the nickname "2 vocal powerhouses"....
Thats why svt is the best. From having a great vocalist to performance and hip hop team. Total package.
Funfact: Seungkwan and Jeonghan are two of the members that moved in together (Wonwoo and Mingyu live together as well) even after SVT moved out and stopped living together.
But you're right their methods of playing games (unless it's sports) do not align 😭 Seungkwan is quickly annoyed and wants to win while Jeonghan is too relaxed and there to have fun even if he has to sabotage the game.
WAS NOT EXPECTING THIS TODAY OMG
Seventeen are 3rd gen! Although it's easy to be confused, seeing as they are one of, if not the only remaining 3rd gen boy group still active alongside the current 4th/5th gen groups
One of, definitely not the only.
@@Singingtater24one of the only largely popular 3rd gen boy groups is a better way to put it.
I know it seems like alot, but I find learning these 13 members is easier than other groups. I think because for me, there is so much of a difference between the 13, that it is easy to tell them apart.
Thank you for posting this today. We have been gifted so much content to chill to.
fr they just so different like i learned them in 2 days but Twice kept me confused for a week
omg same. ive never learned a group as quickly and easily as seventeen and i stan a LOT of groups with most of them having way less members
nah bc wonwoo and dk literally look alike. you can tell them easily bc yk them well now but when u try to overlap their photos they look so similar 😭
Thank you!!
Btw, Seventeen is definitely a 3rd gen group. They debuted in 2015 and the 4th gen started in 2018/late 2017!
As for incredible vocal lines in Kpop other than Seventeen, there is EXO, BTOB (as you already know), SHINee and NCT as well, especially Jonghyun, Taeil, Doyoung and Xiaojun! I also think that Monsta X, Kihyun in particular, has great singers as well!
I just finished watching part 3, this was so on time lol. Edit: 21:42 --> Actually with "," and "." you can move back and forward just a frame. For the future.
THANK YOU!!!!!
it was Lee mujin service when Seungkwan sing....i think you should react to it too...carats will love it for sure....lee mujin also praise him in that song and the whole show...
Seungkwan (my bias) was in The Devil's Plan on Netflix. It was like one of those mystery games where a group of ppl have to solve puzzles to stay in the game. You could see a lot of his personality. He was the sweetest, cutest thing. 💗
1:19:00 there's a reason why ot13 is a genuine bias and its this conversation as to how do you choose.
A note on the svt introverts thing-- Hoshi is a classic introvert IMO. We as fans see a skewed version of him bc we always see him around Seventeen. Seventeen are his family, his people. He's known them since childhood. He's comfortable with them, which means he's more openly himself. So we almost always see this loud, open person, because he's with people he knows well and trusts. But when he's with people he doesn't know, he closes up. He gets quiet. He's not the loud goofy tiger boi, he's uncomfortable and awkward. Hoshi and DK are both like this, as are a lot of the svt introverts to a lesser extent!
Well put! 🤗
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yeah, jun is also known to be quite shy and a little anxious/awkward outside of group activities according to many fans who've met him in the wild.
You're right Jun Joshua and Jeonghan are very pretty like they're already pretty in their daily life and in MVs but then I see them at fashion events or in photoshoot settings and like their beauty and prettiness is genuinely shocking
1:18:57 about biases in Seventeen... It's always going to be tough. Even after years in this fandom (from 2019 ) its still difficult to have just 1 bias because they all so great. But my ult bias is DK and Wonwoo as i have already mentioned in one of my previous long comment. It's completely ok and more than appreciated if you have multiple biases, because these boys deserve all the love they get ❤
I swear Pledis is really good at recruiting amazing vocalists. Nu’est, the group who came before them also have great vocals. Just last week Pledis debuted a new boygroup called TWS which is the first group they’ve debuted since Seventeen in 2015! TWS are also extremely talented vocally
maybe not in the same ways as DK but Taeil from NCT is a phenomenal singer, he also hits some insane notes
all of seventeen are so nice and genuine. one of my favorite clips of them is hoshi talking about them being to school and how he admired dk's shoes, but they were expensive and he couldnt afford them. so he asked dk if he could wear his shoes just once to school, and dk very happily and without any doubt said of course. many years later coming to the present, young members of a mew group talking about how hoshi has been buying expensive shoes for them to make sure they can use them to dance properly.
It's true and I super agree that Seungkwan is good at communicate when his singing. Example the Nana Tour ep 5 that I've watched apparently there's no subtitle yet when I watch it,I was laughing at the performance of the members and when Seungkwan's time to sing I started crying nonstop because I just felt his emotions that time, especially when you know that his best friend Moonbin died.
You should watch seventeen hit the road next... It's the show where the members interview showed in the guid... It's emotional rollercoaster.. you will love it...vit contains episodes for each member
“joshua looks like the big brother [of jeonghan]” he’s not gonna like to hear that 😭😂
😭not a single 95 liner would be happy to hear that
thank you so much for the effort to know more about seventeen and delve deeper into the diamond life! welcome to caratland 🎉🎉
48:36 LOL Seventeen is 3rd gen! From what I’ve seen, most vocal analysis that I’ve seen consider Seungkwan to be the 4th best male vocalist in K-POP (respectively after D.O., Chen, and Baekhyun of EXO) and DK to be the 7th (after Taeil and Doyoung of NCT). From what I’ve heard, his ranking is because although DK can effortlessly hit high notes, he often strains his voice while going into upper registers. His belting voice is also fairly on the weaker side, however he has wonderfully control and can seamlessly transitions to his head voice. He has such a great tone as well that can send shivers down anyone’s spine. I could listen to his voice all day.
Seventeen are 3rd gen, they debuted in 2015. 4th gen started in 2017.
4th generation It's in 2018 🌿
Thank you for finishing all parts of the guide. We truly appreciate it. I hope you’ll continue your journey with Carats and Seventeen. There are so much more you can watch especially the dance practices, live performances, their reality shows In the Soop and their variety show, Going Seventeen. You won’t regret it especially their mafia games. They are all smart, funny and competitive. In terms of the light stick, i personally love version 2. Its brighter and still have their group color serenity and rose quartz. Thank you again.
1:17:03 sadly ver 2 is actually phased out but you can purchase a 2nd hand or old stocks from 3rd party resellers. official stores dont sell it anymore. ver 3 is very customizable though.
OMG. I was about to take a shower after watching the previous part of the guide reaction LOL. I didn’t expect thisss. Thank you! Congrats for finishing the guide!
I also wanna add that you can pronounce Woozi’s name with the Z sound or with the J sound (Wooji/Uji). But in Korean, it is pronounced as Uji. I think they just made it with Z sound for his English name to make it sound cooler.
I know I've commented it in every reaction but please react to SEVENTEEN x Game Caterers- it's a good way to learn more about their personalities
For light sticks, version 2 is the prettiest one of them all (but i love version 1 too). Sadly, the company made it so now it won't connect to the bluetooth concerts. Only version 3 will connect. Most fans hate version 3 😅with some fans fully customizing it. So i would say get 2 for the cuteness or get 3 if you ever plan to see them in concert 😅😊. SVT Is middle of 3rd gen. They are actually part of the top 3 of the generation, aka EBS (EXO, BTS, and Seventeen 😊)
I know you are all busy but when you get a chance in the future i would recommend checking out TVXQ killing voice. There is only 2 members currently (used to be 5 but the rest sued SM in 2009 and left) and they debuted in 2003 at a Brittany Spears and Boa showcase. Changmin's vocals are out of this world. Also, they started 2nd generation and just celebrated their 20th anniversary.
Anyways, I love your videos and your tangents 😂❤
As an aside, if you haven't seen the video Woozi uploaded during the NANA tour of him doing pull-ups shirtless, it's worth a watch. *cough* Also he was 26 when he won that producing award. 26. He's a straight up genius and Seventeen is so lucky to have him (and they know it).
You guys need to start on going seventeen asap!!!! It’s so so so good and addictive - remember to start from the beginning!
WOYY KETAWANYAA NULARR , MOODBOSTERR😭
As a DK biased carat (and Wonwoo based as well ☺️) i understand where the thought oh he looks mature comes from. He is one handsome and beautiful human. It's kinda funny because he is so hilarious that people often overlook the fact that he is absolutely gorgeous... The first ever Seventeen song i heard was funnily enough was through a fancam of DK for the song - Good To Me ..... And that was life changing. I am DEVOTED to DK because of that. So anyways, that was a bit too much info .. but DK has one of the best, if not THE best vocals , in the entirety of k-pop. Seungkwan ofcourse is whole power house vocalist and i do love him. DK just happes to have a very very special place in my heart.
And as fellow Wonwoo biased carat it is my duty to tell you that 24 Hour Wonwoo fancam exists and you should know about that 😂
I am sorry for the unnecessarily long comment, which I don't if you will even read amongst the many many others, but I am so thankful for all the content you guys put out and it also brings me joy to watch you enjoy with us. ❤
Thank you simon and kerry ☹️ i have no idea how you do 16 videos a week on top of having a real LIFE to live!!!! So thank you please know i appreciate you both sooo much 💕💕💕
PS: I'd love for you guys to get v2 of the Carat lightstick but unfortunately they're only selling v3 now as the latest. You'd probably need to find a v2 in a secondhand market!
Thank you!! You made us both smile 💜💚🧡
I said this on the community post but if you would be willing to make a patreon i’m sure many of us would definitely pay a monthly subscription for reactions that don’t manage to get through the copyright stuff (e.g. japanese mvs, some variety shows if you guys start that)
Truly. Some of the few reactors I would try and pay for.
Thank you for uploading this! I know that you guys have a lot of songs to get through, but I definitely recommend reacting to Cheers, which is the song made by the leaders of the units (Scoups, Hoshi, Woozi)!!
Hi! Thank you sm for the reaction, I always look forward for your Seventeen reactions, I haven't finished yet but iI couldn't help but to point out that Jeonghan really doesn't like being called mom of the group, or you could call it, he doesn't follow that agenda nor the members, that's why Caratline17 put it as the Counselor of the group that's how he always calls himself
Yes!!! Agreed! ❤😇❤
Same thing goes for the Hoshi hamster thing... He's already made it VERY CLEAR, so many times over the years, that it really bothers & hurts him (stemming from worries about his looks when he was younger, and the constant comparison of his cheeks to a hamster's), yet for some reason, a lot of "fans" still don't show him enough respect or care to just stop doing it. Even though he is always good-natured about it, it really is seriously mean and just not a very nice thing to do, especially when you know you could really be hurting someone's feelings by unsuccessfully trying to be "funny" by calling other people names. 😥😥😥
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it can be pronounced wooji, uji, woozi etc. he says all variations of them although it does stem from the nickname uri (our) jihoon which they called him predebut
3:35 omg that makes it even more pretty 💖
also seungkwan was asking how he'd buy it because they were currently on tour in the US.. lol. he knows how to purchase it, his concern was getting it back to south korea
That little kitten makes the scarf 10x better 😭💕
oof two hours, that's tough man, I'm sad that it happened, but I'm so glad you guys decided to do this today after all, I got so surprised when I saw the notif, I thought I was seeing things lol
Like Seventeen is my Ult group but when Kerry said Suga is her bias and Jin can’t decide I was like hs, Same! Every seventeen video I watch with yous I relate more and more always sing left and right, also shout WET 🙈😂
Personally I’m a multi fan on many Kpop groups and yes jonho from ateez and jk bts and so on have such amazing voices but personally I think DK has one of the best in the entire industry, the clearness, he doesn’t struggle or move or lean down to give it his all to push out to hit those notes he just stands up straight clear and it’s just overall well rounded altogether. He sings with such passion and emotion it’s scary you feel what he sings! It’s the same as you said for Seungkwan about the communication and emotions. Also the crying easily that one clip was not enough honestly DK and Seungkwan and pure emotional boys at it is so gorgeous to see! But they are comedians them two, they are hilarious. DK is known as the sunshine of the group because of how loving caring and pure he is. DK could honestly sing those notes in his sleep honestly with the amount of singing he does it would not surprise me but yet again got to love him for it.
I have both versions 2 and 3 lightsticks but still prefer version 2 version 3 became very Hybe 😂 more simplistic. If it is for display purposes definitely version 2 but if will use in near future then version 3
Seventeen is a very difficult group to have a bias mine always alternates in order with Jeonghan Joshua Jun Wonwoo and woozi but dk always remain top or very highhhhh up
But then of course all the over members like it’s just soo
Difficult they all have their time to shine and steal the spotlight so there is never a set order. So don’t get me wrong I LOVE ALL THE MEMBERS there’s none better than the other of course people just have preferences.
while jun and jeonghan are my favorite vocalists in svt (tho jun is my favorite period across all music), seokmin and seungkwan i think truly are THE best. chen really is the only other person i can think of that has a more impressive voice than them and even he's complimented seungkwan's vocals before!
24:54 HAHAHAHHAHA that pause just to mention Jun, love it😂
Oh my! Thank you!
Oh, and Boo Seungkwan is a vocal master....one of the best in the game! He may even be better than DK. Ugggh. Give em both a good listen and dont forget to check out Hui's voice in Pentagon.
Loved your reaction! Just to clarify your question about what Gen they are, they are 3rd gen (2012-2017) as they debuted in 2015 and I love DK's vocals he's definitely in the top vocals in kpop for me and it's completely up to preferences but there are many groups who came after that also have incredible vocals.
You finished it ❤ the best surprise~
I bet this feels like a load off your shoulders though now it’s finally out the way 😭 I hope you learned alot
I feel enlightened and exhausted! 🤣 They are so impressive ❤️
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squealed a little bit. so excited to see this today. so excited that you guys are enjoying them so much that you'd do the rest of the guide.
seungkwan is everyone's boo. HE IS MY BOO
AYYY BOO RECOGNITION!!!
Thank you guys. I'm really enjoying being on this journey with you.
Btw, have you watched 24H dance practise? Because at least that won't be blocked. 😊
China Line is definitely something special. Also, it's so difficult to have a bias in Seventeen. They literally all get you in different ways. You can't help but just love them all.
You should def get the 2nd version of the light stick.
1. Woozi comes from Uji it‘s the shortform of what everyone at pledis called him „Uri Jihoon/-ie“ (Our Jihoon) [A/N: which is surprisingly only the second biggest uri inside joke because a male fan yelled Uri Boo at Seungkwan so loudly that it‘s forever in uri hearts lol]
2. Yes Seungkwan likes the way Jeonghan just brings plain chaos into the games as much as I do lol I mean I love hime, but it frustrates the hell out of me! Even tho they are a unit and get along very much, as evident by both of them still dorming together while everyone else split up into living alone (+ Meanie= Mingyu and Wonwoo) They are known as the eternal roommates of the group (even tho they didn‘t room together from the start as Seungkwan roomed with Chan(Dino) a lot in their early days I think.
3. The show Joshua and DK were on is called My alkohol Diary in ghe earlyer days there was no alkohol involved and it was just like an interview with something to eat and Seungkwan was on it(afterwards him and host Youngji released a cover of Juice so watch that right afte please). When alk came on the table Hoshi was on it (also had dance practice afterwards which we have a hilarious video of) and then DK and Josh went on it(which was after BooSeokSoon collabed with Youngji on their comeback song! so that is a must watch too!). I would recommend watching in that order^^
4. 4th gen starts in 2018, Seventeen is late 3rd gen
5. Yes Seventeen has two of the top ten male vocalists of the 3rd generation (and both were on The King of Masked singer + Hoshi). Chen being Nr 1 and Seungkwan about 3rd to 5th place and Dk around 8th place (Chen said Seungkwan is a fellow singer that he respects after seeing his cover of WiFi on the same show he said it on like a few weeks later)
6. YES Seungkwan was on Lee Mujin Service! Please please please react to it, it has so little view compared to the masterpiece that this episode is! It‘s literally my favorite singing video on the internet! His way of captivating his audience is astonishing! (Also 3/4th of the performance unit was on Lee Mujin after him, first Hoshi, then Jun, then Dino)
i loved going on this journey with you guys 🥺🥺 i watched your first svt reaction videos and i love yall sm
Thank you, love seventeen, Thai pop also has started making waves. Jeff Satur’s Ghost dropped last week, other reactors have reacted to it so it won’t be blocked.
Although i prefer light stick ver2, i recommend ver3 to syncing in the concert😂 thank you for reaction🎉
I've been a fan of KPOP for a long time but just started to follow Seventeen and NCT closely last year and I just can't deal with all their talent . They are just amazing ❤
for the lightstick i think most carats really love version 2 bc it's so pretty but im not sure if it's still available for purchase, and it doesnt sync during concerts anymore
svt has been hinting on another tour maybe at the 2nd half of the year so maybe you can wait until then? if they would release another lightstick version???
I love your videos guys!!
Apart from awesome SVT vocals, BTOB are famous powerful vocalists. You can start from their Killing Voice and then check out their live stages ❤
I really love svt vocal unit, they always make me cry, especially uri boo
Thank you guys you really made my day ❤
For me one of the most talented Kpop vocalist apart DK is Kihyun from Monstax
His voice is just so beautiful
More comments from me! They're late 3rd Gen. I just watched a video ranking Top 10 boy band vocals. Seungmin from Stray Kids and Jung Ho of ATeez were in there, but our own DK was 4th and Boo (Seungkwan - sorry if that's misspelled) was 1st. I think DK should've been higher (SVT is my ult group), but I console myself that both of our main vocalists finished in the top 5.
IMHO Dokyeom and Seungkwan remain two of the best vocalists in Kpop even compared to 4th and 5th gen, especially given that they were trained in the 3rd gen. I think the focus in training new groups is currently dance > vocals which means newer kpop groups just can't hold a candle to these two vocally.
Also-- when comparing groups I think it is important to note that Seungmin was not meant to be the main vocalist of skz, he just got stuck with it when Woojin was booted. I love skz but their focus is rap and their vocalists don't hold a candle to svt's vocalists IMO.
Technically I believe Seungkwan is the stronger vocalist over Dokyeom but they're both so good. Seungkwan historically has been better, but Dokyeom has the more recent musical training, which gives him a boost. Either way, they are both so strong, and I love both of their voices so much.
YAYYYYY we made it to my bias's unit!!!!!! You are such liars. I was ready to wait. But today is ACTUALLY my birthday so.... you did it for my birthday. Thank you. My day and Boo Seungkwan day!
(yeah the Japanese MVs can be... real blocktastic. I'm not sure if I've ever seen a reaction to 24H?) There's a cat! You both look soft and cozy. I mean your clothing. It's nice. SIMON SWEATER PAWS cause Woozi is too talented!
Seungkwan and Jeonghan roommates - I see someone already mentioned their portrait wall to you as well hahaha they are so funny. Joshua Jeonghan fun funny charismatic sides of a coin. DK the most precious, a literal sunshine.
And SEUNGKWAN!!!! The most skilled and brilliant vocalist. My biases - Wendy and Seungkwan. Something they absolutely have in common - their emotive ability. They communicate so clearly through their vocals. Definitely check out both LMJ. SEUNGKWAN SEXY! heyyyyyyy Thank youuuuu
P.S. - China line for some reason :D That's what I've heard
wow that was fast, wasn't expecting to see the last part so soon 🤣
To answer your question about DK's vocals: KIHYUN from MONSTA X has very similar vocals to DK in terms of ability, and they came around a year or so after Seventeen!
Just so you know for future videos! If you want to micro rewind or fast forward so you can see things that go by fast like Woozi's pool photo. If you pause and click the () key is fast forward!
30:51 jeonghan and seungkwan live together, after some members went to live alone or in other places, Mingyu and wonwoo also live together if I remember correctly, they must be together🥹.
Yaaaaay
1:02:11 wow you described seungkwan so well
Btw I'm an Introvert like Hoshi myself... I am loud and annoying and bright and leaderlike but I really am just nervous and stressed inside and wanna go home. Psychology says that introversion vs extroversion is literally ONLY about how we PROCESS the energy we've received from others... if it drains us and we need to recharge, then it's introversion. If it energizes us and being alone is what drains us, then it's extroversion. That simple. =) And Hoshi does show his introvert side when he is around strangers or if he goes by himself to somewhere as a challenge.
Hi, i am back. Good reaction, ty. Ok i subbed. U both are lovely and so funny. And i really love how much u love the guys. Love the scarf i have a soft spot for purple being army and all. =0} I am learning about Seventeen so finding this was fun. Though i have seen the full 3 hr long guide multiple times my memory is not great so i need to rewatch. Rock with U is my fav song from them. =0} I like Wonwoo. He cute. Was Hoshi bias because of Suchwita a drinking show on here from Suga of BTS. =0p Woozie was on it too. I am still pretty new fan. So lots to learn. Jeonghan biased now and Joshua wrecker. Jeonghan was a problem in Super and so was Joshua. 0.o Hoshi be wilden often. o.o I am bad with tech too, lol. I love that he agrees with Taemin's (maknae of Shinee) mentality. Aww, he a Shawol(Shinee's fandom). Cute. He adores Key (rapper from Shinee) well that explains a lot, lol. I like this groups dynamic too. Very interesting. Woozi has slowly impressed me more and more after Suchwita. But i still protest he does not look like Yoongi at all!!! Humph. lol.Kerry surprised u did not notice them playing BTS fire during Seungkwan part. =0p They all so talented. I am taking notes. This was fun. Hugs. -NY USA 2019 Army💜
Very few mixed race individuals make it in Kpop the two most popular to do so are Vernon and Somi.
@El-vq8tx said on 10/8/23
Vernon was bullied by other kids because he was mixed and he actually dropped out of middle school when he was accepted as a trainee. It’s very sad that he had to stop his education and couldn’t grow up like everyone else, he actually talks about it in the first performance clip in his section in the hiphop unit song “Trauma”. They all talk about their own struggles and his part is about how he had no friends and had to drop out of 8th grade.
It seems that his younger sister attended an international school, so she didn’t experience the same prejudice. It’s just devastating that their family had to go through that experience and realize their children can’t mingle with the other kids safely bcs society “others” them.
@just_meow1279 said on 6/15/22
Other facts about them:
-SCOUPS is the youngest in the Choi family but the oldest in Seventeen.
-Dino is the oldest in his family but the youngest in Seventeen.
-Woozi is an only child in his family but he sits in the middle (7) so that makes him the middle of Seventeen.
-Woozi has low tolerance in alcohol so he doesn't drink and he has a sort of allergy reaction (reddish skin) when he drinks alcohol
-their ages form a diamond
95 95 95
96 96 96 96
97 97 97
98 98
99
-Hoshi once watched Dino perform and he said that Dino will be a good dancer and they ended up on the same group.
-The8 saw the 17 project on tv and now he is one of the members💗
-their bestfriends with monsta x (carats and monbebes are married couple)
@animals14life said on 6/15/22
‘It’s insane they have so many talented people’ and when you know that only 3 of them actually auditioned, and that the other 10 were street casted/scouted???? Makes it even more insane istg 🤯
@El-vq8tx said on 8/5/32
Cute fact:
S.coups is the oldest in SVT but the youngest in his family, Woozi is directly in the middle in SVT but is an only child in his own family, and Dino is the Maknae in SVT but the oldest in his family.
It's a really cute dynamic because you get Coups who's a very affectionate and playful oldest member, Woozi who grew up alone being showered with love by having 6 people older than him and 6 people younger than him, and Dino who's a mature maknae and tends to be the emotional backbone for his members.
@VaniACarat said on 8/5/32
💎An important/interesting fact: Universe Factory (우주공장) is the name of Woozi's & Bumzu's studio. Is a combination of both of their names, with the (우)지 from Woozi and the 범(주) from Bumzu 💖 Both are the main composers/producers of seventeen and they have their own personal studios under universe factory, Woozi's room (from Woozi) and Prism Filter (from Bumzu).
Bumzu used to be Seventeen's singing teacher when they were trainees but they became close because there wasn't that much of an age difference. He was the one who taught Woozi how to produce professionally. And all of us carats love him so much ❤ He is known as the 14th member.
+ If at any time you review the lyrics of the songs, the 'seventeenlyrics' channel is the most recommended because it offers correct translations and detailed credits.
@0becalp325 said on 89/30/23
Woozi solo song: Ruby (all in english)
11:33 Smile Flower
12:00 Hug
13:04 and 22:47 Falling for U
22:55 2 minus 1
36:30 DK cover of Yang Da Il 'she didn't love me' ruclips.net/video/v3UW6oTw_ks/видео.html&pp=ygUIZGsgY292ZXI%3D
37:27 Seventeen performing Tell Me on Immortal Songs
38:30 We gonna make it shine 2017 version
38:37 Kidult
49:47 idk the name of the song but that's the video ruclips.net/video/apcP6iaZUCk/видео.html&pp=ygUPc2V1bmdrd2FuIGRpbmdv
50:20 cover of an ost ruclips.net/video/vEcJ9Up32ag/видео.html&pp=ygUcc2V1bmt3YW5nIGJlYXV0aWZ1bCB0b21vcnJvdw%3D%3D
for the other songs,i think they were written on the video while they were singing,like 'Don't Listen In Secret'
@laurenstendel9111 said on 10/4/22
Fun fact about Jun as you were wondering about his dance background, he is actually the only member of the Performance Unit that didn't have any dance background coming into Pledis. However, he did wushu and kung fu (I'm pretty sure it was specifically those) since he was young, and some of the movements probably transferred over well.
@lapillity said on 10/4/22
The show with all the Pepsi logos that showed up in jun and Minghao's parts is CYZJ! you can find the episodes on CYZJ subs RUclips channel. honestly it's a show i recommend all carats watch, i think it was sort of a turning point/growth moment for both of them, but jun especially. there are sides of jun on that show that to this day i haven't seen in any of their contents, you really get to know him through the course of the show ;-;
Wow!! Thank you so much for this. We really, really appreciate you for all the time you took to gather and share this with us. We are thoroughly enjoying our journey into the diamond life. We've got a long way to go but every step so far has been incredible.
Jun doing kung fu wasn't on my radar at all 🤯
Yvw. =0} They are really fun. They give of to me BTS energy, lol. Jun was not on my radar period. But now he a wrecker sometimes. =0p @@alongfortheridereacts
16:05 that was brilliant 😂😂😂👍🏻
1:18:28 Don't worry guys you are already doing a lot and we've been enjoying the videos and will continue to enjoy just don't feel stressfull for uploading videos
Seventeen ❤❤❤
LMAOO I FELT THE "JUN." in 24:54
Couldn't go unsaid!
6:02 It's alright to refer to him as Woozi with a Z as you guys usually pronounced it. The reason being that the Korean language does not have the Z sound, so they say it as J. In English interviews, Woozi even introduces himself as Woozi with Z. Therefore, it is simply the Korean pronunciation of his name.
I love the v2 lightstick but currently it's out of production. I recently got a second hand v2 from a second hand website tho. The price was similar or a tad bit more than the original price since v2 is so much loved and in demand. I also have the v3, new, but that's cuz I recently went to Follow to Bangkok concert and got it from the concert merch store. Btw v3 only connects in concert venues. Also I got my secondhand v2 after v3. If I had gotten my v2 before v3, I think i would have just carried my v2 to the concert even if it doesnt connect cuz its so prettyyy! But I did have a good time with v3 getting sync in the concert. Me and few other carats nearby me and in other sections did had a bit of sync issue in Day2 of the concert tho idk why. Not sure if thats a normal thing to happen, cuz its my first ever concert ever. We kept trying but it wast syncing. I was with to other carats, one's got synced like 15min before the show started, mine got synced 10min before and the 3rd girls like 2-3 min before. I heard few others also had a bit issue in other sections and one carats v3 disconnected midway apparently. she was telling me later on. But yea i did enjoy a lot. I decorated my v3 with ribbons and whatever was being sold outside concert venue. There were many who covered their v3 with skins or rhinestones. Hehe. Hope you get the lightstick you wish to get and sorry for the longgg comment.
Simon, Kerry HAD to show the cat! What if Wonwoo watches this video? He loves cats.
Seventeen is, in fact, 3rd gen. My favorite 4th gen male idol vocalist is probably Keeho from P1Harmony. Different type of singer than DK. Not so much a power belter. Think R&B with a sprinkling of jazz.
Honestly, if you manage to get a Version 2 lightstick, please let me know where you bought it.
Pronounce it "N-Citizens".
Also, I never realized there was a BST. I've only ever known GMT.
I feel like at one point everyone mistook jeonghan and Joshua For each other or thought they look alike it part of becoming a carat lol, it's been probably 4 months since I became a carat and when I tell you I struggled I mean it I'm pretty good with names and faces I got them down in 3 day but i struggled sm with hannie and shua like i could tell them apart if their separate but when their together I got so confused and it didn't make it better that their like known for basically being each others first bestie in svt and also them being the same age same height and sometimes same hair color or hair styles, and getting their verses back to back both being vocalists so it was so hard for me but after a week I finally made it lmao fun fact when jeonghan joined pledis joshua was the first to come up to hom and talk and they joined around the same time I believe only a month apart so they became really close they would do everything together and jeonghan said people would think he's Joshua multiple times lol, also a cute fact is once one of them wanted to give up training and leave I think is Joshua and jeonghan said if your leaving I'll leave with you and if you stay ill stay with you it's so cute I LOVE THEM ❤️
Japanese songs usually always get blocked but hey you get to react to the Vocal Unit and i'm so happy! lol
Speaking of vocalists, I don't know them very well, but I've heard that some of the DKZ members are insanely good.
Also a 3rd Gen performer, Yoo Hweseung from N.Flying is a singer who has the power and range of DK. Though two years older he debuted two years later than did DK. Lots of examples of his power vocals on RUclips including his many appearances on KBS's Immortal Songs programme in addition to covers, collaborations and live N.Flying shows.
as far as the blocked content...im just saying --- i would sub to a patreon.