Don't Buy This Pedal...There's Something Better!
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- In this video I'll explain why you SHOULD NOT consider buying a vintage Nobels ODR-1. The Keeley Noble Screamer is the best alternative on the market and I'll compare the Noble Screamer to my vintage Nobels ODR-1!
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Timecodes
0:00 - Intro
2:17 - What is the Nobels Sound?
3:49 - Session Example
4:03- ODR-1 and Keeley Comparison
6:12 - Higher Gain Comparison
7:43 - Add TS Tone to ODR-1 Circuit
9:14 - Outro 
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I'd just get a Nordland ODR-C. That is the boutique take on the vintage ODR1 from the original creator. High-end components, extra mid knob, bass cut and a drive compression control. Hand-built by the man himself.
I have the ODR-CC+ and really dig it
Yup. The Nordland is great.
It doesn’t have the feel of the original.
@helloitsmeAG have you played this noble screamer yet? I dig the nordland but I'm always looking for something new. Does this keeley have the feel of the original
@@helloitsmeAG How so? And even if that's true, having the ability to dial in the amount of bass and mids and the amount of compression, is sure handy.
Thank you so much for posting this. The comparison is fantastic !
Cool video!! Thanks for doing what you do Corey!!
Thanks for the great review Corey! It's so cool to see the Loop Switcher in action. Craighton Hale came up with that to help us get around the less-than-ideal buffer in those old units. Ain't Aaron Pierce the best for dialing in sounds?!?! Not only did we have many of the great 'ears' in Nashville such as yourself listen to the NS during development, but we made heavy use of the APx515B Audio Analyzer to make sure we had the tone and feel right at every stage in the device, in areas you normally can't drop in and listen to... Another great point you made about the older orginials, sometimes they might have component values that are off or swapped, so buying one could be a little bit of a gamble, although they can all be corrected.
Thanks for chiming in Maestro! Congrats on a winner!
I think you hit the nail on the head with this one. It has to be matched by ear, not just knobs. It sounded absolutely identical. At first, I had seen the video with Tom where for some reason the noble screamer sounded grainy and fuzzy, and sadly I didn’t like it. But this one sounds identical to the original when you were ABing. So I’m impressed now. Great and thorough video as always
Buk plays 50 thousand noballs pedals before he finds the one he likes. Maybe he finds the ones out of spec. His ears are dialed in to the nobles sound 100%.
I sold my Klon for $325.
I paid $289.
Nordland makes an ODR-C by the same engineer of the Nobels and it does the TS thing because it has a mid knob. And it makes less noise.
This looks good. I got a Wampler Belle. Its another great take on the ODR1 and more tweakable. Great Pedal
You are absolutely correct that the vintage nobels sound different from one another. I have a vintage one that sounds killer. I decided to spend way too much on Reverb for another one, because I wanted a backup. It sounded nothing like my other one. There was a weird overtone.
You still can't go wrong with the second one, just sell it for 2000.00.
Love this demo!!
Thx!
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The Noble Screamer is awesome. Does the ODR thing as well or better than any of the boutique copies. Running it with the ODR overdrive circuit snd Tubescreamer tone stack is a game changer.
that tone is killer! Thanks for the video.
The more gain you add the more they sound alike imo. That being said I own the new version of the ODR-1 and it’s good enough to me, in fact my favorite drive along with the blues driver.
I'm playing my Jr. with a single Reilander P90 more and more than my SSS Strat and LP lately. I think it's the perfect Pup for a wide range of music. Especially if you work the tone and jump from fingers to pick you can get tele tones to LP grit. I have the LTD Nobels that I leave on and then use an octonaut hyperdrive as a mid-boost for any gritty lead I need to do. Love your SG Jr. Corey.
The OG has that extra bit of magic ! But as you said, no pedal is never worth a crazy price tag making the Keely a great option for that Nobels sound
Hi - I have the Nobels ODR-1 BC as an alternative to the no longer available original - and it sounds damn good too. But for certain sounds you would need a second one with the BassCut activated. That's why the Keeley is a great idea.
Maybe add an Boss GE-7 in the loop for cutting the bass?
The sleeper OD pedal that few know about is' the Dan electro Daddy-O.
Ssssshhhhhhhh don’t freaking tell anybody about how cool those old Dano pedals actually were… I’m not paying 800 bucks for pedals that went for 30 new 😂
Using the switcher was a brilliant move to compare the two but why not go a step further and run a loop of your playing using the switcher to eliminate any differences in your playing?
I'm waiting on the Karma ODR-10. It's supposed to be a clone of Time Pierce's vintage ODR-1. Hope to receive mine in the next couple weeks.
I’m sure that will be great. His mostortion clone is well done
You are absosutely right mate..No pedal in the world worth this amount of money vintage,old or whatever..Thanks for your infos..
Yes I have 4 original Nobels and they all are a bit different. I never use mine for lots of gain but just to add a bit of crunch and hit the front of the amp harder. There’s a thing about the touch sensitivity that is great. And it sounds great with a KOT stacked on top. I did have a chance to AB with the Keely today and I have to say it’s really close and much closer than the Nordland. Best I’ve heard. If you don’t already have an old ODR-1 save the money as the Keely sounded really good. And I also love the Wampler Belle but for different reasons.
Thanks for sharing that, Chris!
@@coreycongilio you are welcome and thanks for all the great videos!
Try the new Nobels ODR-1 30th Anniversary.......with adjustable Bass Cut! ;-)
Corey, The Keeley is incredible. Bought it day one and it truly an awesome pedal. Great video!!
Nice! Thank you!
👍🏽👍🏽 ... it's great folks: enter the comp !!!!
No love for the Wampler Belle? That thing has been glued to my board ever since it came out!
It's a great pedal, nothing wrong with it at all.
@@RobertKeeleyTV I love the respect you pedal builders have for each other. Nice to see.
I have a Nobels and a Belle. I find myself going to the Belle more often in my set up. Love it.
The Nobels has a tiny bit more in the bass & low mid frequencies… or at least it sounds like it on my iPhone speaker lol
Great video!
Speaking of Bukovac and the Nobles. He did a video a good long while back, now, where he kinda landed on the Nobles Mini in comparing different Nobles, if I remember correctly. In the process he talked about, exactly, the feel. The feel is there in the original, the Mini and the Screamer iteration. No one, not even a Bukovac can sense any sort of difference. Josh from JHS is fighting the same fight, if you will. No difference in these pedals, technically or otherwise. Internet warriors are abound.
Thanks again, man 👍🏻 good stuff
Too many opinionated influencers? There are many great players other than Tom. My 2 cents. Dont yell at me. Respect to all musicians!
What about the full size Nobels ODR-1 reissue that’s currently made? How does that compare with the original and this new Keely?
Bukovac himself did a comparison video even with the new mini version. And there was no difference.
Great! I love any video where these pedals that cost more than the rest of your rig get slammed! Ok. I cleared my mind- on to a great day now!
🤣
Nobels 30th Anniversary ODR-1 in GOLD was just released in the Fall of 2023 too.
Corey i got a bit of a bone to pick with you. I got the nobelscreamer based off your video at launch specifically. Because the first thing you said was it doesnt have to bad low end, the reason why i didnt like the nobels mini. But when i got mine, it has way too much woofy low end, i tried different amps and guitars and same. I got dial it out on the amp by turning the bass low, but then the other drive pedals sound too thing, or the clean tone is too thin. What am i doing wrong is there a secret, ive watched all the videos on the Nobelscreamer and none of them sound too low. Any help is appreciated thank you
Ah, that was the feeling I had in my femur. Without seeing and being in front of your rig it would be difficult to make an assessment. All ODR1's have a bigger low end than most OD pedals. The NS sounds and feels nice and refined in my experience. I would try using the TS circuit with the OD drive
Cool, very cool. Subbed.
Hey thx!
Identical. Sounds awesome
@coreycongilio PLEASE do a video for the new golden 30th anniversary limited edition Nobels Odr-1 versus the original. They say it’s the same circuitry as the original. Gold colored, 30th anniversary, limited edition, and supposedly same circuitry as the original. Only 5000 being sold but apparently there’s plenty left still😮😮
imho, the orig Nobles way u got it set up sounds bigger than the Keely, i hear a bigger sonic pic w/orig n im sure the Keely could be dialed in to match 4 sure..
I A/B my original vs a KARMA ODR-10 and its spot on!
I'm strapped for room wondering if belle mini and ts mini would be better tone wise than nobles screamer. I do love keeley pedals, have a halo and it's the only delay I'll ever need. But i already own a wampler belle
have you tried Line 6's Nobels emulation? If so, what do you think?
Corey, any thoughts on the Nobels ODR-1 reissue?
I actually preferred the mini odr1. Not sure why!
Nice one Corey, but doesn't the Boss DS1 do this really?
Thanks. Not to my ears at all. The ODR-1 sound is it's own thing.
Yeah….it took me two seconds of watching the video of all of you at Brett’s house to know that I want this pedal. I ordered it THAT day. It’s so good.
Have you tried to Browne Atom?
Always preferred the sd1 to any screamer. The noble was showing up everywhere so I bought one. Nope , the boss SD1 still beats it. I don’t know why it’s so underrated, maybe because it’s cheap, but the sd1 is the king.
Because no one whose “cool” or “hip” is pushing it. I agree with you and honestly see very little reason to not have 3 or 4 boss pedals on a board and call it a day.
Tone is more pleasing than most distortion pedals.
One is on the road to my house right now.
He Corey - I entered the giveaway and tried to get all the bonus points, but the link to "Watch Corey's Demo of the Keeley Noble Screamer +25" says that the YT video is private and cannot be watched. You may want to fix this! Thanks for the giveaway, I hope I win!
Thanks for letting me know. All fixed!
Man I hope I win. Keeley is impossible to find here in Australia
I own several original Nobels and yup, every one is gonna' have an issue at some point. And while some of the "clones" do sound great, there's something missing. If you own (or can still afford) an original and can have it rehoused with a better switch, etc. - That's the way to go. And even though players are touting these new, improved, "better" pedals, there's a reason the originals remain on their boards.
Another good alternative is the Nobels mini, which costs 79 bucks. I don't hear a difference. Love my mini.
Yep! Mentioned that actually
Now all the tube screamers are in one pedal for 30 to 50$. Various brands but Biyang is a standout.
They are only hyped in Nashville and people that like that music. The world doesn’t know it
You're right.
Try an ODR-C from Nordland Electronics. 👌✨🤟 … from the inventor of the ODR-1 in 1992.
I did buy a odr 1. Power switch crapped out. No replacement. No reply from manufacturer. Threw it in the trash and won't replace it.
Threw in the trash? Not to hard to replace the power switch.
@@Prettynoise
Not your typical power switch. I couldn't find a replacement.
What about the 30th anniversary one?
Has the Nobels ODR-1 Reached Klon Status?
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Really nice video!
Glad you liked it!
Corey: Tom defined the sound with an ODR-1, and you bought your ODR-1 from Tom. 🤔 Is the pedal in this video THAT pedal?
Keeley: This video sold me on getting this pedal - and to step up and get one of your compressors, too.
Tom was so smart to buy a surplus of these pedals at one point. I was lucky enough to get one that passed through his hands and it is the one I’m using in this video.
Thank you!!!
I had a silver Nobels ODR-1 from the 2000's and then suffered through a house fire and lost many things including that pedal. I was extremely dissapointed sad to see how outrageous the things are pricing. I just want my pedal back.
Sorry to hear that. I just did a video with the 30th Anniversary Nobels and it was very good!
@@coreycongilio which is closest to the Original ODR1?
Ah I just listed one on eBay - hope it sells before anyone sees this 😂
Check out the Nobels 30th Anniversary ;-)
or you could just crank the amp
I didn't think I would see a video title like that... I thought the mentality of the pedal industry was more encouraging and helping other companies, than telling people not to buy another brand. I will buy whatever I want. Good luck!
How about watching the videos before making a judgmental comment.
@coreycongilio Ok, I want to clean my karma here :) I didn't watch the video, true. I didn't like the judgemental title, even if I had a doubt that it was just a teaser, something to catch the attention. I posted my comment too fast. A catchy RUclips video title is not important for me; the important thing is that everyone express themselves with respect and without fear. My scream at you wasn't noble at all.
I want that SG, actually. SG Junior, RED.. is number one on my next guitar list. It will be the last guitar I purchase......
The price of the original Nobels is so (SO) ridiculous.
You buy 3 or 4 Vemuram that put Nobels in a slipper! 😂
The Keeley Nobel Screamer (of which I have played) doesn't quite have the "depth" of an old original Nobels, but my experience is that pedals often sound "better" the more they are played. When I look for used pedals, it seems to me that the beat-up ones just sound more broken-in and responsive than the clean ones. I just bought a beat-up Japan-made Boss DS-1 that sounds way better than the near-mint Japan one I used to have, which sounded much stiffer by comparison. One of my biggest pedal-regrets was selling a beat-to-hell Ibanez TS-808 that had a Texas Instruments 4558 chip...it was sheer magic, but I felt uncomfortable carting around a pedal (then) worth $375. Anyway, in the future, should I ever run into a battered and bruised Keeley NS, it will likely go home with me.
Yeah the protein is pretty great ngl
Nobels odr anniversary is the best choice
Keeley is a genius
there are people who buy pedals for the sound and there are people who buy pedals for other reasons, if sound is what you are after, don't buy either, there are cheaper clones that are just as good, if you buy pedals for other reasons, absolutely buy the OG, they are gonna only go up in price. I really like Keeley effects but I'd rather see people buy tons of Halo delays than noble screamers. Just my 2 cents, pedal people and especially boutique guys need to come up with something new fresh and amazing, we have enough eastern companies who clone the living bananas off existing circuits, no need to have top guys do that too
@@Dr.Garlic. Look at all the people who care (poins to an empty corner in the room)
Power jack is hangin' on by a thread? Oh NO! Better take it to a scientist for diagnosis.
Well done… Keeley wins again
Wampler Belle ftw
Original ODR-1 wins every time. Definitely worth the $
Wampler belle
Nobles pedal look like they should be $50 pedals and have like $10 worth of parts. Looks like a joyo or Behringer plastic job.
Leave it to drama club guitar players to hype up something so much that they’d pay $2k - logic circuit not included. Get a soldering iron and build your own for $50 including the iron. Then make a klon and a king of tone and you just saved all kinds of money.
Nobles is the best period
Buy a Nobels ODR-1 30th Anniversary pedal.....the real deal!
The Nobles still has that little something special to it. But at this point, the Keeley is the way to go.
Agreed. Like those comparos of the UAX Dream 65 vs a real vintage Deluxe Reverb amp. The amp has some special quality that the Dream 65 doesn't, but the pedal is very, very good.
Mainstream Nashville music now is ...
Dude, after listening to hundreds of overdrives I finally realized they all sound the same. Just sayin
So long nobels market lol good they are soooo overpriced anyway
Funny how guitar guys are religious about pedals. They are *all* a bunch of 0.01$ simple parts. A bit more mid, more bass, etc.
Look into "where tone come from" serie on youtube to see the insanity of it.
So much hype about an insignificant pedal.