OP is a great wife, her husband is so lucky to have found such a supportive partner. This is a terrible situation... In the middle of all this, Laura is innocent and she needs therapy ASAP, before she's left destroyed as a person...
This man was basically assaulted, abused, and is deeply traumatized and his mother wants him to play happy families. And they are so right if this had happened to the sister the mother wouldn't be so gung-ho about it. No one should be forced to parent. The wife and husband are NTA and Laura needs help.
he was sexually assaulted and forced to have a child he didn’t want to, and you expect him to want to be a father to Laura? he made this clear to Laura mom and she still brought Laura into the world knowing that he wouldn’t be involved. NTA, to everyone saying yta, just think if this had happened to a woman would u be saying the same thing?
The way they try to make it not a big deal, it’s no different than a man doing it. It’s wrong and he’d be a saint to be fine with the daughter and since she’s turned into a nasty human being she can piss off too
I think there is more going on behind the scene. As for the kid she is probably not in a great place mentally. I mean think about it if she did crazy things to Op's husband imagine what she did to the kid, It's probably not pretty.
She tried to hug them and they all said no? Unfortunate how she was conceived but this is disgusting. That girl is his daughter whether he likes it or not and he is punishing her for her mother’s horrible actions. What a terrible man
@@talora5991 This man was coerced into having a child he never wanted and although he doesn't want to be her father, he's still doing all his legal duties. He made it clear he doesn't want to have a relationship so honestly as far as I'm concerned Laura is just completely delusional
Everyone except Laura is is vile. Her mum… sexual offender Dad and Op…Just cold and taking it out on Laura. Laura needs therapy and regardless what her mum did, nothing should be taken out on Laura.
They are not taking anything out on Laura . Her mother and grandmother are encouraging her behavior. Her mother should be the one to get her therapy and help her accept all of this because it's all the mother's fault
First thing first, I deeply condemn Laura's mother's actions toward OP's husband, and she should've went to jail. However, I still disapprove of how OP's husband treated Laura. I think that he projected all his justified feelings toward her onto Laura, who is innocent in all of this. At the end of the day, he willingly laid in bed with Laura's mother (again, I disapprove of tampering with contraceptives), if he was r*ped into having Laura, it would have been another discussion. And I know for sure that if a woman left her child in the care of an abuser, she would have been heavily judged (and rightfully so)
Technically its reproductive abuse, but either way, he should've been mature enough to put his own feelings aside and think of Laura. It may sound harsh, but Laura retraumatizing him was his own fault for being a deadbeat. You don't abandon your kid over their mom's actions 🤦🏽♂️
@@amyyaku5022he was sexually assaulted and forced to have a child he didn’t want to, and you expect him to want to be a father to Laura? he made this clear to Laura mom and she still brought Laura into the world knowing that he wouldn’t be involved. Also since you mentioned “be mature” the same should be said to women we can’t face their rapist or abuser, they just need to be mature :) because years if trauma and abuse doesn’t matter and all that matter is being mature, knowing that you have to take care of the product of your sexual abuse/assault.
@@amyyaku5022 You are basically saying a man's trauma doesn't matter because he's a man and should be strong? Why? The woman threatened him with a weapon and stuck him with a child he definitely didn't want. It's not his job to get Laura therapy. Her mother is still manipulating her and she's the one to blame in all of this . Men's mental health matters too. Don't you all have a whole month dedicated to this?
@@amyyaku5022 What do you think about women who get pregnant after getting raped? Are they also bad people for doing an abortion or giving their children up for adoption?
Sorry he didn't want a child and fatherhood was forced upon him but that's not the child's fault. Unwanted/unplanned pregnancy happens everyday but talking it out on the child is pretty f***ed up. Now that he does want a child and had one he's being a great father. This unwanted child is now entitled and terribly immature.... He made the decision to have absolutely nothing to do with her and allowed her upbringing to be 100% controlled by his horrible, embittered and angry ex so his opinions and complaints about how she turned out is every bit his fault as it is hers he made that decision, he could have intervened at any point. I get he didn't want children and he was tricked into having her. That was wrong and f**ked up beyond belief but later he did decide to have a child and showed everyone that he IS capable of being a great father and that's horrific for that first child to see. I couldn't imagine being treated so terribly by my father because I was unwanted but then to watch him shower so much love on another child would be killer pain. So it's no wonder she has become immature, angry, bitter and entitled like the mother.
YTA (OP's Husband)... While you were tricked into this childbirth, you are still Laura's father. You don't have to give any financial support what-so-ever, but the fact that you shut down every attempt for this poor child to have even an opening of a relationship with her biological father is just horrible... The worst victim in this whole situation is Laura simply for the fact that she was born, and she has no way to find a positive outcome in this situation, nor a control over it and that's just so tragic and sad. She is so innocent yet she gets all the blame and punishment. This damn story makes me cry tbh.
he was sexually assaulted and forced to have a child he didn’t want to, and you expect him to want to be a father to Laura? he made this clear to Laura mom and she still brought Laura into the world knowing that he wouldn’t be involved. Also since you mentioned “be mature” the same should be said to women we can’t face their rapist or abuser, they just need to be mature :) because years if trauma and abuse doesn’t matter and all that matter is being mature, knowing that you have to take care of the product of your sexual abuse/assault.
YTA. Laura's mother is awful for what she did, but OP and her husband caused Laura to have these issues and think some therapy will help her. If they separated what Laura's mom did from Laura herself and given her the love and support she needed, none of this would've happened. What frustrates me the most is how it's all about the husband. Yes, he was a victim, but Laura was too and he should've been there for her as a father.
The guy was a victim of sexual assault and you want him to be around the living reminder of his trauma? Would you say the same wkrh a woman who gave up a child for adoption that was conceived through rape?
he was sexually assaulted and forced to have a child he didn’t want to, and you expect him to want to be a father to Laura? he made this clear to Laura mom and she still brought Laura into the world knowing that he wouldn’t be involved. Also since you mentioned “be mature” the same should be said to women we can’t face their rapist or abuser, they just need to be mature :) because years if trauma and abuse doesn’t matter and all that matter is being mature, knowing that you have to take care of the product of your sexual abuse/assault.
@@dogguy8603but what if that woman let her child grow up with the father, knowing he is mentally deranged, abusive and willing to do extreme things to get his way? Yes. Ops husband is a victim. But he is also a big perpetrator in the reason his own daughter ended up being the way that she is - clearly she’s very troubled and deeply hurt. I feel really bad for what happened to him, but at the same time I think he did his daughter very wrong.
@VoglioLaLuna he did nothing, he is not her father nor should he be forced to be simply because he was sexually assaulted, what happened to him is considered in many countries as rape. I feel bad for the girl but the fact is he is under no obligation to raise a rape baby
OP is a great wife, her husband is so lucky to have found such a supportive partner.
This is a terrible situation... In the middle of all this, Laura is innocent and she needs therapy ASAP, before she's left destroyed as a person...
This man was basically assaulted, abused, and is deeply traumatized and his mother wants him to play happy families. And they are so right if this had happened to the sister the mother wouldn't be so gung-ho about it. No one should be forced to parent. The wife and husband are NTA and Laura needs help.
he was sexually assaulted and forced to have a child he didn’t want to, and you expect him to want to be a father to Laura? he made this clear to Laura mom and she still brought Laura into the world knowing that he wouldn’t be involved. NTA, to everyone saying yta, just think if this had happened to a woman would u be saying the same thing?
If her mom wanted her do badly. Why wouldn't she say you can sign over rights. Then allow step daddy to adopt her. My god
The way they try to make it not a big deal, it’s no different than a man doing it. It’s wrong and he’d be a saint to be fine with the daughter and since she’s turned into a nasty human being she can piss off too
I think there is more going on behind the scene. As for the kid she is probably not in a great place mentally. I mean think about it if she did crazy things to Op's husband imagine what she did to the kid, It's probably not pretty.
She tried to hug them and they all said no? Unfortunate how she was conceived but this is disgusting. That girl is his daughter whether he likes it or not and he is punishing her for her mother’s horrible actions. What a terrible man
I don't think he's terrible but to each their own
@@ColdTRex I respect your wrong opinion
@@talora5991 This man was coerced into having a child he never wanted and although he doesn't want to be her father, he's still doing all his legal duties.
He made it clear he doesn't want to have a relationship so honestly as far as I'm concerned Laura is just completely delusional
@@ColdTRex Even if she did not tamper with the condom, the pregnancy still could have happened. I think he is in the wrong here
@@smsff7 Still she was recieved by sexual assault and not by chance. Her mum was abusive towards her dad and you seem not to care about any of that.
Everyone except Laura is is vile.
Her mum… sexual offender
Dad and Op…Just cold and taking it out on Laura.
Laura needs therapy and regardless what her mum did, nothing should be taken out on Laura.
They are not taking anything out on Laura . Her mother and grandmother are encouraging her behavior. Her mother should be the one to get her therapy and help her accept all of this because it's all the mother's fault
First thing first, I deeply condemn Laura's mother's actions toward OP's husband, and she should've went to jail.
However, I still disapprove of how OP's husband treated Laura. I think that he projected all his justified feelings toward her onto Laura, who is innocent in all of this. At the end of the day, he willingly laid in bed with Laura's mother (again, I disapprove of tampering with contraceptives), if he was r*ped into having Laura, it would have been another discussion. And I know for sure that if a woman left her child in the care of an abuser, she would have been heavily judged (and rightfully so)
Tampering with condoms or birth control is considered SA and sometimes rape so he was assaulted/raped
Technically its reproductive abuse, but either way, he should've been mature enough to put his own feelings aside and think of Laura. It may sound harsh, but Laura retraumatizing him was his own fault for being a deadbeat. You don't abandon your kid over their mom's actions 🤦🏽♂️
@@amyyaku5022he was sexually assaulted and forced to have a child he didn’t want to, and you expect him to want to be a father to Laura? he made this clear to Laura mom and she still brought Laura into the world knowing that he wouldn’t be involved. Also since you mentioned “be mature” the same should be said to women we can’t face their rapist or abuser, they just need to be mature :) because years if trauma and abuse doesn’t matter and all that matter is being mature, knowing that you have to take care of the product of your sexual abuse/assault.
@@amyyaku5022 You are basically saying a man's trauma doesn't matter because he's a man and should be strong? Why? The woman threatened him with a weapon and stuck him with a child he definitely didn't want. It's not his job to get Laura therapy. Her mother is still manipulating her and she's the one to blame in all of this . Men's mental health matters too. Don't you all have a whole month dedicated to this?
@@amyyaku5022 What do you think about women who get pregnant after getting raped? Are they also bad people for doing an abortion or giving their children up for adoption?
I could never have a baby with a guy like that, why would you put yourself on that position?
Sorry he didn't want a child and fatherhood was forced upon him but that's not the child's fault. Unwanted/unplanned pregnancy happens everyday but talking it out on the child is pretty f***ed up.
Now that he does want a child and had one he's being a great father.
This unwanted child is now entitled and terribly immature.... He made the decision to have absolutely nothing to do with her and allowed her upbringing to be 100% controlled by his horrible, embittered and angry ex so his opinions and complaints about how she turned out is every bit his fault as it is hers he made that decision, he could have intervened at any point.
I get he didn't want children and he was tricked into having her. That was wrong and f**ked up beyond belief but later he did decide to have a child and showed everyone that he IS capable of being a great father and that's horrific for that first child to see. I couldn't imagine being treated so terribly by my father because I was unwanted but then to watch him shower so much love on another child would be killer pain. So it's no wonder she has become immature, angry, bitter and entitled like the mother.
He is no father and never wanted to. He is a great uncle. That is different.
YTA (OP's Husband)... While you were tricked into this childbirth, you are still Laura's father. You don't have to give any financial support what-so-ever, but the fact that you shut down every attempt for this poor child to have even an opening of a relationship with her biological father is just horrible... The worst victim in this whole situation is Laura simply for the fact that she was born, and she has no way to find a positive outcome in this situation, nor a control over it and that's just so tragic and sad. She is so innocent yet she gets all the blame and punishment. This damn story makes me cry tbh.
he was sexually assaulted and forced to have a child he didn’t want to, and you expect him to want to be a father to Laura? he made this clear to Laura mom and she still brought Laura into the world knowing that he wouldn’t be involved. Also since you mentioned “be mature” the same should be said to women we can’t face their rapist or abuser, they just need to be mature :) because years if trauma and abuse doesn’t matter and all that matter is being mature, knowing that you have to take care of the product of your sexual abuse/assault.
True @@LolsIssajoke
Girl he did not want a child and he was forced to it..tf u expect him to act?
YTA. Laura's mother is awful for what she did, but OP and her husband caused Laura to have these issues and think some therapy will help her. If they separated what Laura's mom did from Laura herself and given her the love and support she needed, none of this would've happened.
What frustrates me the most is how it's all about the husband. Yes, he was a victim, but Laura was too and he should've been there for her as a father.
The guy was a victim of sexual assault and you want him to be around the living reminder of his trauma? Would you say the same wkrh a woman who gave up a child for adoption that was conceived through rape?
he was sexually assaulted and forced to have a child he didn’t want to, and you expect him to want to be a father to Laura? he made this clear to Laura mom and she still brought Laura into the world knowing that he wouldn’t be involved. Also since you mentioned “be mature” the same should be said to women we can’t face their rapist or abuser, they just need to be mature :) because years if trauma and abuse doesn’t matter and all that matter is being mature, knowing that you have to take care of the product of your sexual abuse/assault.
@@dogguy8603but what if that woman let her child grow up with the father, knowing he is mentally deranged, abusive and willing to do extreme things to get his way? Yes. Ops husband is a victim. But he is also a big perpetrator in the reason his own daughter ended up being the way that she is - clearly she’s very troubled and deeply hurt. I feel really bad for what happened to him, but at the same time I think he did his daughter very wrong.
@VoglioLaLuna he did nothing, he is not her father nor should he be forced to be simply because he was sexually assaulted, what happened to him is considered in many countries as rape. I feel bad for the girl but the fact is he is under no obligation to raise a rape baby
100% yes....