@@ddinoboy it makes the tradmark “sight whistle” sound on my boosted Honda but on my DSM at 30psi I feel like I’m pushing it to it’s limits, most of the people on RUclips you hear are running around 15psi, making it “whistle”, I feel like at 30psi it’s forcing the air out so fast it doesn’t have the airflow needed to make the typical type s sound
It's definitely not tuned for the whistle. You have to loosten the top screw, let it out and it will whistle. There are several big turbo builds which the iconic whistle present. You eliminate the whistle by screwing too far down.
@@AndesCandies86 literally can’t unscrew it any more than it is, look how far out the screws are at the beginning of the video, trust me, it’s adjusted properly
It's not about the sound, it's about what it does or what it's supposed to do. A proper blow off valve takes the load (excess energy) from the turbo and dumps it so it doesn't damage and put too much pressure on the turbo. It also makes it sound awesome 🔥 The fake one just makes it sound awesome, but your turbo won't last long.. probably 🤷🏾♂️
Probably performance difference under high boost. I did tial knockoffs like 5 years ago and it was good on low boost but on high boost, they were bad. Boost spikes, inconsistencies in opening and closing etc
I believe NGR bought the rights from Greddy and made it more durable with a silicone diaphragm and adjustment screw that doesn't strip like the original .I have the NGR Type S and love it. It will whoosh and whistle or just whoosh depending on how its adjusted. Bought mine used for $80 and zero problems in 3 years running up to 20 lbs boost.
the fake is engaging too slowly and is not flowing enough air to keep up with the boost in this build. that is why you can hear more of a hiss on the second one and more of a “pish” type sound on the first. to be fair even the name brand valve is underpowered but much less so than the knockoff.
@@dylanjamesryan9432 I had an electronic boost controller. Way more consistent than just relying on springs. Not sure how you can gauge how much psi a car is running from the sound of its hood exit exhaust 🥴
Hey that’s the blow off valve I use (cheap one) It’s claimed two turbos but thats cuz I was too lazy to see what was wrong. It was completely blocked off since I got it and I had to take it apart and reconstruct it. Works perfect now
Gotta be more specific bc technically they're both "Real" BOVs . One is a name brand Greddy valve and the other is a "Knockoff" brand that basically sounds the same, but what is t discussed is the performance and THATS what is more important. If you think a BOV is for making a sound then you deserve to get ripped off. BOVs serve a purpose. They prevent compressor surge, and when you're making power, it's important to make sure the turbo is flowing good.
All of em work the same in my opinion, some are designed to be super loud but this is the style most people use, as long as they dont break its fine no need for a super expensive one. Pretty hard to break a blow off valve.
Ugh.. the fart can on the back definitely steals the show 🤣 Reminds me of when I go to my great great great Grandparents after there Bean and Cheese Macaroni Lmao
Its not about how it sounds. It's about how it performs. Most of the Ebay stuff is junk but every one in awhile some absolute gem shines through and takes the win. Like the GT45 Turbocharger which they no longer sell die to companies changing hands.....
I’m gonna have to agree with the people in these comments that yours isn’t adjusted properly, I have a 2g 4g63t with a real type s and my still has the whistle
Don’t disrespect the eclipse my man they are great cars. They came With one of the best 4cyl turbo engine ever developed. Could use some paint but it’s a over 20 year old car the paint won’t be perfect.
🙋🏻♂️ Hum.....for someone like myself is a huge fan of the Greddy Type S and still currently running the same BOV after all these years, hum.... sir something wrong with those BOVs and they look beat AF. My Type S still sounds like you're breaking glass and loud AF 😉 I did experiment a Knock Off and it's close but not as loud as the real deal.
Right? The cheaper prob isn't as efficient, so you may want to go bigger than you'd think, and it may not last as long, but when you can get 8 of them with change instead of a brand name decal, there's really only one choice
Sounds low and deep like 10-15 psi in the first clips. The last clips sound like 25 psi. I could be wrong though. I could see it being that he just spooked harder for the "fake" videos or I could see it being that the real one has larger vents allowing the pressure to escape more freely into the atmosphere resulting in a lower, softer tone. I'll be the internet anomaly and admit I genuinely don't know.
30 dollar one sounds fine to me
That’s what I’m sayin!
I came to the comments to make sure i wasn’t crazy
Not really…it doesn’t have the fluttering sound.
@@gregb11385are you deaf?😂
I agree
That exhaust sounds like a datsun pickup with rusted out exhaust pipes. 😂
720 or 620
@@Make.nuggets26273i got a couple 720s
Haha it really does I can picture it now
@@Make.nuggets26273sounds just like my 74 720
It has a hood dump straight off the turbo outlet so I’m not surprised
That awkward moment when you realize you have two fakes in your hands
or a "real" one with fake replaced spring
I’m dead af lmfao
I was thinking the same thing lol I've only had two turbo engines and both sounded better than that crap
Sick, is it hot pink or oxidized red?
I don't care about the sound, i care that it operates exactly the way the tune demands.
Under rated comment!!!
Lol ... How does the tune demand the bov??
@@street954depending on how the BOV opens will play a factor in how the power comes on when you back on throttle
Well that's the $30 gamble isn't it. However that $30 gamble could end up a $3000 fail.
@@vickramos9234 what does that have to do with the tune?? (Hint, it doesnt)
Sounds like some people got fleeced for $220 roughly😂
I don't think they are adjusted properly. I'm not hearing the type-s schwing sound on even the genuine..
they are indeed adjusted properly, the screw is loose enough to let the BOV open but not too tight to where it cant open and cause flutter
@@Austinarchu I don't know, just doesn't make the trademark sound. What do you think when you hear the other loud Type-S BOVs on RUclips?
@@ddinoboy it makes the tradmark “sight whistle” sound on my boosted Honda but on my DSM at 30psi I feel like I’m pushing it to it’s limits, most of the people on RUclips you hear are running around 15psi, making it “whistle”, I feel like at 30psi it’s forcing the air out so fast it doesn’t have the airflow needed to make the typical type s sound
It's definitely not tuned for the whistle. You have to loosten the top screw, let it out and it will whistle. There are several big turbo builds which the iconic whistle present. You eliminate the whistle by screwing too far down.
@@AndesCandies86 literally can’t unscrew it any more than it is, look how far out the screws are at the beginning of the video, trust me, it’s adjusted properly
That engine is about to explode
Sound pretty much the same to me
yup ripping us off when can go with the $30 one hahahaha
It's not about the sound, it's about what it does or what it's supposed to do.
A proper blow off valve takes the load (excess energy) from the turbo and dumps it so it doesn't damage and put too much pressure on the turbo.
It also makes it sound awesome 🔥
The fake one just makes it sound awesome, but your turbo won't last long.. probably 🤷🏾♂️
@@iz2904but this is a sound comparison video
I thought I was going crazy glad I’m not the only one
@@iz2904the work just as well
All I hear is the pain of the exhaust
Fr though
That’s the engine clapped out
So the only difference is cost?
Probably performance difference under high boost. I did tial knockoffs like 5 years ago and it was good on low boost but on high boost, they were bad. Boost spikes, inconsistencies in opening and closing etc
exactly
@@ReignRegime you're thinking about wastegates not BOV's my brother
@@DeckoTDNo, there are fake Tial BOVS man. Its the Tial Q & 50mm. Look it up...
@@retiredtidepodeater3339 I more meant a BOV can’t cause boost spikes, they aren’t even required at all, most of the time
Sounds the same to me
I don't think that's how they're supposed to sound.
I believe NGR bought the rights from Greddy and made it more durable with a silicone diaphragm and adjustment screw that doesn't strip like the original .I have the NGR Type S and love it. It will whoosh and whistle or just whoosh depending on how its adjusted. Bought mine used for $80 and zero problems in 3 years running up to 20 lbs boost.
The “fake” sounds better
eh
the fake is engaging too slowly and is not flowing enough air to keep up with the boost in this build. that is why you can hear more of a hiss on the second one and more of a “pish” type sound on the first. to be fair even the name brand valve is underpowered but much less so than the knockoff.
They're probably both fake
Logos are expensive, they sound very similar ,if you put an hks decal on the fake one id believe you
I dont think this guy understands he can rev while stationary
It’s much harder to create boost when under load
@@robertclucas7119 this is true
@@robertclucas7119wrong way around
Anti-lag
you can’t build boost by just revving it 🤦♂️
Still waiting to hear the fake one 😅
Had a HKS SSQV on my Evo 5. The turbo sounds were insane.
All due to boost psi. This eclipse sounds like 5lb spring
@@dylanjamesryan9432 I had an electronic boost controller. Way more consistent than just relying on springs. Not sure how you can gauge how much psi a car is running from the sound of its hood exit exhaust 🥴
turbo flutter on an ssqv? a bovs entire purpose is to prevent flutter, so somethings wrong there.
Both sound shit 😂
Hey that’s the blow off valve I use (cheap one) It’s claimed two turbos but thats cuz I was too lazy to see what was wrong. It was completely blocked off since I got it and I had to take it apart and reconstruct it. Works perfect now
Wym like clogged or a cap from the factory?
U paid for 2 turbos, but then ran them through a $30 BOV? lol
@@501Labs 5 turbos
@@jonek473110 turbos
Fake sounds better
They definitely both sounds pretty close!
Sounds set very soft. Mine doesnt sound anything like these 😅
Bet your dick is massive bro 😂
For 30 dollars?!?! What more can you ask for sounds good
Bypass valves and blowoff valves are two of the same but different obv you can like tune blowoffs
I have a hks one and that one sounds amazing. Always loud even at low boost or barely boost you can stil hear it very nicely
Hey man if its a sound contest and im broke you know which one im picking
Not me immediately recognizing the knock off as I just put it in my eclipse…. I got mine in some kit so I can’t even complain sound for sound
They don’t sound different, reliability/longevity is the difference
Both sounds cool as long as both are doing the same job. It shouldn’t matter. It’s a matter daddy thing.
I have a real one on my gsx and it sounds nothing like this lol wtf
Same. Mine whistles loud as hell.
Had the type S for about 7 years and 100k miles. I missed that sound so much. Man was I disappointed when it wasn’t there.
That full throttle demo was impressive
The flutter is compressor surge. My k04 gti makes it because it doesn’t have a bov. They use a diverter valve instead
Gotta be more specific bc technically they're both "Real" BOVs . One is a name brand Greddy valve and the other is a "Knockoff" brand that basically sounds the same, but what is t discussed is the performance and THATS what is more important. If you think a BOV is for making a sound then you deserve to get ripped off. BOVs serve a purpose. They prevent compressor surge, and when you're making power, it's important to make sure the turbo is flowing good.
the fake sounds horrible but the real sounds pretty good
The 250 sounds more in tone to the car but the 30$ still did a pretty decent job
I miss my ol 98 Spyder GST now..
Red like yours
They sound roughly similar to each other, but I can definitely tell which one is the fake one versus the real one when you show them together
Here's the thing though BOVs aren't a cosmetic to most people which is why the $30 one is better for most as it's works the same
I haven't seen an eclipse for some years, last one I saw was at a junkyard and I went back to buy it and somebody was already loading it up
Cool car.
All of em work the same in my opinion, some are designed to be super loud but this is the style most people use, as long as they dont break its fine no need for a super expensive one. Pretty hard to break a blow off valve.
One of the best sports cars ever made right there.
They sound pretty freaking close in fact the cheaper one is louder and more clear
Scenery, sounds, car, all make me want to play Juiced, need for speed and srs and other racing games…good times smh
Ugh.. the fart can on the back definitely steals the show 🤣 Reminds me of when I go to my great great great Grandparents after there Bean and Cheese Macaroni Lmao
GUYS, HE'S DRIVING A MODDED ECLIPSE IN A PARKING LOT!!!!! What a movie reference!!!!
Either your car makes fuck all boost or they both sound the same
Oh I haven't seen one of those greddys in awhile. My friend had a talon with one me
If you adjust that real one right, it will whistle like the eclipse in the fast and the furious.
2g with the evo 8 wheels is fucking ELITE
I had a greddy type S on my mr2 years ago and I remember it be louder and higher pitched. I might’ve had more boost pressure tho
Ahh eclipse (:
Miss mine
Locked up in the garage.
Are you running speed density then? Or is it a recirculating setup? Also do you tune it yourself?
All I hear is compressor surge. The BOVs never actually made a sound.
So you’re comparing the hole shape and acoustics. Not quality. Quality would define its operation and responsiveness.
They both sound good. Take it apart and show us the spring inside it thats the important part.
Its not about how it sounds. It's about how it performs. Most of the Ebay stuff is junk but every one in awhile some absolute gem shines through and takes the win. Like the GT45 Turbocharger which they no longer sell die to companies changing hands.....
The fake sounds pretty good honestly
The greedy I had would whistle so loud. It was the classic wwwwiissshhh that you here on fast and furious 1
I know the flutter is compressor surge and is terrible for the turbo, but the sound of a crushed greddy knockoff is unbeatable 😂
Sound should be the last thing you consider when building, Performance and reliability come first.
I hate to be a dick but the knock-off sounds crisp as fuck
I’m gonna have to agree with the people in these comments that yours isn’t adjusted properly, I have a 2g 4g63t with a real type s and my still has the whistle
As long as it works the same. Save money. Now for important things like brakes don't cheap out on some Flintstone heel rotors and pads
I mean its about function, but i think the knock off could be a temp fix if you dont have $250 on the spot or a spare one on hand
The one that does the same job for less is more intriguing in my opinion it doesn’t sound like a difference much
With a car like that, the $30 one seems to work fine.
Don’t disrespect the eclipse my man they are great cars. They came With one of the best 4cyl turbo engine ever developed. Could use some paint but it’s a over 20 year old car the paint won’t be perfect.
Welp sound dont mean jack but when you get a boost leak and cant figure it out you know where to look
Both sound good
That car sounds like hell. What did you do dump the exhaust out the bottom into a 6 inch cannon?
Literally sounded the same but real is better than fake only because the retail price when u sell.
Sounds almost identical 😂
When you find out you just have a bad spring or vacuum leak and they don’t change sounds regardless
They sound the same on that diamond star motor vehicle.
🙋🏻♂️ Hum.....for someone like myself is a huge fan of the Greddy Type S and still currently running the same BOV after all these years, hum.... sir something wrong with those BOVs and they look beat AF. My Type S still sounds like you're breaking glass and loud AF 😉 I did experiment a Knock Off and it's close but not as loud as the real deal.
They cheaper version wins hands down sounds the same or maybe a little better. The noise that thing makes is why those cars have been junked already
It blows off intake pressure. Its doing its job. Fucking bargain if you ask me
Right? The cheaper prob isn't as efficient, so you may want to go bigger than you'd think, and it may not last as long, but when you can get 8 of them with change instead of a brand name decal, there's really only one choice
@philbert006 that's what I'm saying, and honestly most "junk" parts are fixable so there's that as awll
Ummmm the “fake” sounded better. But it’s hard to tell on that unit of a testing rig.
Fake sounds legit to me 🤷♂️ helps my pockets too.
They just tend to leak sooner than the real ones. Causing your car to run like 💩
No headlight 🫨😧😮😱😱😱😱 lol
Lookat that beautiful eclipse 😍😍😍
I would rock the fake one for the price sounds just as good but if it adds power and shit add the real one
So, no one going to point out that these are not BOVs but recirculation valves?! You can tell be the bevel on the ends...
You can adjust the sound by tuning the vacumn
It's very close but the Greddy sounds better imo.
Sounds low and deep like 10-15 psi in the first clips. The last clips sound like 25 psi. I could be wrong though. I could see it being that he just spooked harder for the "fake" videos or I could see it being that the real one has larger vents allowing the pressure to escape more freely into the atmosphere resulting in a lower, softer tone. I'll be the internet anomaly and admit I genuinely don't know.
Man I miss my GST :(
What if I told you they weren't just for making the sound 😂
That muffler sounds like pooo
They sound exactly the same lol 😂😂
So your point is that we can just go ahead and buy the cheap knock off
Sure! Your car, do what’s make YOU happy 😊 who cares what others think
Yeah sounds good either way not the most wanted car but deff a tuner classic and a sweet ride love man don't see enough of then
Exhaust sounds like it's about to fall off
Never once in my life heard of a "fake blow off valve"... it either is or isnt a blow off valve.
Didn't need to drive it to hear the difference 😂😂
So you're saying you have 2 different profiles? That releases the built up Turbo pressure into the atmosphere and sound the same???😂😂
When you say fake does that mean it don’t work
Who cares what it sounds like….does it work is what matters.
Just put the spring from the good one in the 30 dollar one and they'll sound identical