The Contrarians - Episode 62: Black Sabbath Dehumanizer
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Dawn joins and gives Marco a run for his money over his pick for the Dio era of Black Sabbath.
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This lady could not be more wrong. I like all the songs with Time Machine being my favorite.
Time Machine is my least favorite on this album.
"The Devil You Know" is my favorite Black Sabbath album with Dio. I don't care that they changed the name of the band to Heaven & Hell for that album...it's still Black Sabbath.
Agree, it's Black Sabbath!
Absolutely is. It was simply legal issues that prevented them from being able to formally call it Black Sabbath. They used the Black Sabbath winged devil icon in the album artwork too, which tells me what the band truly thought. Should really be considered part of the Sabbath discography
I'm with Marco, Dehumanizer is a masterpiece beginning to end, I, Computer God, Buried Alive and TV Crimes are some of my favorite Sabbath tunes. In fact the song I would be in my top 3. The solos on Computer God are very well done in my opinion and I don't feel like he's copying anybody, sounds like Iommi to me. Not sure where the "poppy" comments come from, there's nothing poppy on Dehumanizer. And I actually prefer the Wayne's World version of Time Machine.
Thank you!! I think I like every song on it actually, and I think it was a step in the right direction after the first Tony Martin era. Im a fan of Tony Martin but I definitely like Dehumanizer better than all the Martin albums.
Masterpiece? No, good album, yes!
Completely agree. It's so criminally underrated. "poppy"??? What in the heck is she talking about??? It's a killer album. Unfortunately released at a time when the music scene was dramatically changing. And yes, we get you are a fan of Megadeth.
Poppy, maybe Dawn the Chaldean meant ‘melodic’.
Dawn definitely justifies her points very well. She’s also a hard fan to please it seems. ‘Sin’s of the Father’ is the unsung hero of this album, due to the middle vocal section build up when Ronnie builds up with -
‘They call it mystery, but any fool can see..’
Anyone?! 🤷🏽…
Fkn amazing 🤩, blows me away every time. Every song rules hard. My fav of their whole catalogue.
YES. Yes yes yes yes yes. I LOVE Dehumanizer! It is not only my favorite Dio Era Sabbath album, it's my favorite Sabbath album overall! It's got some of Ronnie's best singing and lyrics, some of Tony's best riffs and solos, and is SO heavy. Reinhold Mack's production is heavy and metallic and suits the music so perfectly.
Nice! Glad to have you on my side! I think its pretty underrated and I agree with your points, I would say Master of Reality might be my all time fave though
@@thecontrarians2438 I listened to the album again after watching the video and yea, it's great. I'd say Sabbath Bloody Sabbath MIGHT be a very near neck and neck with it if I'm being honest, but I will still always sing the praises of this album. I think it's completely underrated and underappreciated.
I liked this episode. It's my first episode. Dawn takes a critic approach to Dehumanizer that most of us Sabbath fans cannot because of our "condition". Great podcast
thank you Dawn is awesome!
Dehumanizer has also grown on me. In fact, the 2009 Wacken version of "I" is now in my top 20 songs. Just crushing.
Awesome! I'll have to find it!
The studio version of "I" does it no justice,,You have to see the "I" done live to get the full effect and experience what a great song it is,,
Loved Dawn's review! She had me roaring with laughter and she's so spot on.
Dawn is amazing!!
Dawn is right, the beginning of "Sins of the Father" sounds Beatlesque, it reminds me of "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds"...
This is one of my most listened to sabbath albums. I love it
its great!!
Dehumanizer has some great songs on it, but there are also a number of, shall we say, not so strong tracks in the package. Compare that to Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules where virtually every track is top tier and there's no question in my mind that Dehumanizer is simply not as good. Heavy? Yes. As good? No.
i completely agree. i was dissapointed with dehumanizer; heaven and hell and mob rules were 10/10.
Completely disagree. Not a single boring moment on there, and it has aged very well
Nice to see Dawn again in a video, I remember the really cool DIO discussion between her and Pete over at SOT.
I really like Dehumanizer, though I can't put it quite on the template of H&H and Mob Rules.
Thanks Josh! I will have to check out that discussion!
Think Dawn meant the riff from Master of Insanity resembles ZEP'S The Wanton Song. I also think that riff is similar to Lady of the Lake from Rainbow.
Dehumanizer is my favorite Black Sabbath album. The Dio era is my favorite era.
Nice Brian!! glad you're on my side!
I wholeheartedly agree my friend!!!!
Born Again is the Heaviest album.
You know, after watching this video, I went back and listened to this album and man, I get what your saying Marco. I believe this album is extremely underrated. I think the reason why it holds up so well is the production still sounds fresh and current. As well as the social commentary in the lyrics. I totally disagree with Dawn on that solo in Too late. I think it's genius. To me it kind of emulates that sound of an evil spirit or dark forces being unleashed. Excellent album and great episode. Thanks guys. 🤘
wow thanks Robby T! Glad to have you on my side!
This is my favorite album, I didn't understand it in 95 started listening to it again about 10 years ago. It is more and more relevant as time goes by. My son also loves it.
Shut up about Megadeth already.
Deadset! 😊
lol
I find it pretty wild that Geezer himself doesn't like his bass sound on this album! I personally think that this is the best bass sound Geezer has ever had!!
It's pretty good I agree!
I was thinking same thing, Geezer sounds amazing on this album! Great production…
Dehumanizer are heavier than Rust in Peace !
I enjoyed this discussion. While I love Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules more, I am definitely a big fan of Dehumanizer. My views of the album are definitely on the Marco side, though it is great to hear another perspective. Dehumanizer is an album that has grown on me over the years. Every member of the band is crushing it. I imagine that the tension in the band only added to the intensity of the album. I struggle with Tony Martin, so it was great to have Dio back on board, however briefly. My favorite tracks include Master of Insanity, I, Computer God, and After All (The Dead).
Dehumanizer is my favorite Dio era album as well. Has some of iommis best solos and vinnie's best drumming.
Also I would say master of insanity sounds more like the wanton song than trampled under foot but yeah definitely similar to a led Zeppelin song
17:55 he did his drums I'm a glass room, according to Iommi's book
I like Mob Rules best. Love Vinnys drumming and especially the sound. Beefy prodction compared to what I see as a very "thin" sound on H&H As far as Dehumanizer......eh. Bought it when it came out. I knew there was trouble when I saw the album cover. Couldn't get into it. Tried though.
I agree 100%. Every single word!
100% agree
Mob Rules rules. Totally agree about the sound on H&H. Dehumanizer, just plain boring.
Right on. Mob Rules is the best and Dehumanizer's cover art is downright embarassing.
Sorry,
I like Dehumanizer is it H&H or Mob Rules no but it’s a different era and some of Dio’s best vocal work on CD
After listening, I have to say I agree with Marco. While Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules made a bigger impact at a different time, I think this album is every bit as good. I enjoyed every note!
Thanks Bob! I definitely think the Dio albums are almost like children, they're each probably my favorite while im listening to them
Not even close to 'Heaven and Hell' and 'Mob Rules' in my opinion.
Great discussion but Dawn: how can you hate Anthrax??? nooOoOoOoOo :)
Oh the irony, she doesn't like Lady Evil
Another great debate. I have to agree with you on this one, I love Dehumanizer, BUT, it still ranks lower for me than H&H, Mob and Born Again...but higher than any of the Tony Martin, Glen Hughs and last two Ozzy albums. I don't think I could choose a single fave Sabbath album though...maybe Sabotage or Master. Maybe? Lol! I love Dawn and her straight forward attitude though and respect the hell out of her opinion. She made a great counter point, but I like the entire album. Looking forward to the next vid. 🤘🤘
Dawn is amazing! But ya if I had to pick out of all the Sabbath albums total, it would probably be Master of Reality or something like that.
"Master Of Insanity" sounds a lot like Led Zeppelin`s "Wanton Song", and it also reminds me of Judas Priest`s "A Touch Of Evil". I wonder if the latter is the song Dawn was thinking about... there`s a third song the chorus reminds me of, and I can`t quite put my finger on, a Dio song maybe?
Dehumanizer is my favorite ALL-TIME heavy metal record. I also picked up all the DIo Sabbath (and solo) records at the same time when I was in high school 20 years ago. The album sounds like it was recorded in the computer factory from the end of Terminator.
woah! Cool comparison to Terminator! I agree, one of my favorites as well!
Thank you Dawn!! So glad to hear someone say 'I' is the best song on the record. Easily sits among my top 20 Sabbath songs. It is in fact the only song I like on an album which pails in comparison to Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules.
Thanks!! I love "I"!
Ralph Viera from the Almost Human channel contends that “I” is the best song Sabbath ever did with Dio. High praise indeed.
@@steelerfreak1977 It is certainly the most cathartic song Dio ever sang with Black Sabbath. Vocals sound like soul purging, so Ralph must have good taste. 😁
@@dawnthechaldean5377 It’s a great song for sure. My personal favorite Dio Sabbath song is “Die Young”
@@steelerfreak1977 Excellent choice! Any song that begins with Dio singing "gather the wind" makes you want to raise your hands to the sky and get ready to feel the power! Good taste! 😁
I agree witb Marco. Underrated heavy album. If they released that in the mid to late 80s it would have huge. I laughed when she said they stole the riff from trampled under foot , but she sang the riff from Wanton Song. Its behind Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules, but excellent album.
Yes, I misspoke and said the wrong title. Since you hear the Led Zeppelin steal, do you happen to hear the other one during the chorus and know what it is? I would be very thankful if you could identify it.
I just listened again. It does familiar. Its gonna bug me till i get it. Gonna listen a couple more times. Lol. Wanton song is a definite. That other riff is another band
Master of Insanity borrows the riff from Wanton Song not Trampled Underfoot.
You are correct. I said the wrong title. Do you happen to know the other song they stole for the guitar part during the chorus? It might be a vocal melody that Iommi changed into a guitar part? Just listen again and see if you can solve this riddle for me.
@@dawnthechaldean5377 I don't know what it is, but it does sound familiar
Wait wait wait wait wait wait….. it is impossible to HATE Anthrax!!!!
sadly, it's almost a fad to bash them.
Dehumanizer was the first Black Sabbath album I ever bought. I wanted to get into their music. I knew nothing about the band. I had only heard 'Iron Man' on the radio. I was in the music store and it was the most recent album and the coolest looking cover, so that's why I bought it. haha This was around 1993, a couple of years before Blockbuster music where you could listen to the album before you bought it. It had some cool songs though.
My favourites are ‘Buried Alive’ ‘I’ ‘Time Machine’ & ‘TV Crimes’.Ronnie’s vocals are particularly abrasive on ‘Buried Alive’. ‘After All’ comes across as trying too hard to be ‘classic Sabbath, and I think Dio’s lyrics are specifically trying too hard, less so the band. The cymbal sound on ‘TV Crimes’ always sounded too bright, but that’s curable with a good graphic equalizer! I must re-listen to the album. It’s a pity Cozy Powell didn’t get through the fraught album rehearsals to drum on the album. To see Cozy & Dio onstage with Geezer & Tony Iommi would have been a moment to cherish. I hope Tony will sanction an improved audio of the rehearsals with Cozy & Dio, for a future release.
Oh she's not annoying at all............im taking a guess here....... she's a megadeth fan??????
overly "criticy" presentation of her review,and as someone who HATES Megadeth all the mentions of them makes me cringe.
The bashing is real in this video. If I was puttting words in Dawn's mouth I would say she believes Iommi is overrated.
The one thing I totally agree with her on is that weird chord-progression in the pre-chorus to After All (top 5 Dio-era song for me) as it did take me a while to get used to that major-key section in an otherwise super dark song
I tried identifying the Mustaine lick in "Master of Insanity" and the closest I can come up with would be "The Doctor is Calling" (great deep cut from Risk), but that's several years after Dehumanizer. The aforementioned lick is also similar to one found in "Children of the Sea".
I do agree that the album as a whole is not a masterpiece or all that great but I feel the same about all the Dio-era albums. They all contain at least 2-3 songs that I always skip when I try to listen to the albums in full.
I would say she is right that some of the riffage and production kinda have that "heavy for the sake of heavy" feel that veterans were doing in the nineties. Jugulator (Judas Priest) and Demonic (Testament) also come to mind in that category.
Master of insanity is actually a track from the GZR band. There are clips of it on RUclips. Iommi pretty much plays the riff note for note. I would call that song a "filler"
@@elinino5275 Agreed. Very "pedestrian", to use Professor Popoff's vocabulary. Not unlike several songs from the Martin-era.
I agree this an overlooked great Sabbath album. Sins Of The Father I think is an absolute killer track though it apparently impressed you less. Great album, and did not get the love it deserved.
Thanks Jeff!!
I remember getting this album shortly after my 13th birthday in '92 and it started me on my metal journey. Still my favorite metal album. Just so heavy with a certain dark atmosphere.
Dehumanizer is my favorite of the Dio albums. It has been since it came out. I'll comment again after I've watched this whole video.
Great! Can't wait to hear your opinion!
I love this album...production is great. Every bit as strong as the first two Dio-era Sabbath albums. People ignored it only because of what else was going on in music, which was (mostly) nowhere near this good.
Dehumaniser completes the Holy Trinity of Dio era Black Sabbath & is a great album, Too Late is the best song on this album for me, Great lyrics great riff & lommi's solo is one of his best.
Computer God is a classic anthem, and should of been the single rather than the boring tv crimes, 'I' is also a great track.
Master Of Insanity wasn't a ripoff of Zeppelin's Trampled Under Foot. It was lifted from The Wanton Song and it was a song Geezer brought from the Geezer Butler Band. I get it, but it's a cool song never the less. This was a return to form for Dio, Iommi and Butler and I think it fits right in with music being released at the time. Iommi's guitar tone is back and his riffing is back. I don't hear Tony trying to be Dave Mustaine at all. The guitar leads are all pure Iommi. The bass tone is menacing and fits the album perfectly. Dio is pure gold. The cymbals do sound saturated but if you listen to any other Mack produced albums, they sound pretty much the same. Max Norman was slatted to produce but didn't work out. Wish he did...I think the record would've been even stronger.
I think this album stands eye-to-eye with Mob Rules as the best Dio-era album, although I listen to this a lot more nowadays. Everyone references "I" as an underrated song, but I think "Too Late" is the crown jewel. Listening on headphones, I actually teared up by the pure emotion of Dio's singing on "Too Late" last weekend.
Good job Dawn, very entertaining and a marketing masterclass!!😆
Heaven & Hell is my favourite Sabbath album of any era, but do find myself tending more towards Mob Rules in recent times
The Heaven n Hell. concert ad was for the concert held in Singapore which I attended. Great gig though the setlist was rather short. Less than 90 min.
So my contrarian voice is i love live evil is my favorite. Its a mixture of the best studio work with dio. It was my first black sabbath album, in the ozzy years i like master of reality best. Dehyminizer is way to thin sounding i don't care for the production by mack. There are some ok songs but I agreeits half a good album.Dawn is a bit critical but over all i agree with her.
Didn't think I'd hear Megadeth fangirling and shit talking about death metal and Slayer in a video like this. Terrible guest.
agreed
I don’t like how everyone glazes over Sins of the Father. I think it’s top 3 or 4 on this album. The second half of the song has an awesome groove and great solos and vocals. Nobody talks about this song and it’s high time they do!!!
Heaven And Hell is my favorite Dio era Black Sabbath album. It's an almost perfect album (I totally agree with Dawn about Lady Evil) and definitely in my top 5 all time favorite Sabbath albums. All Dio era Black Sabbath albums are great though. Mob Rules and Dehumanizer are awesome. I also love Live Evil. All 4 albums have great album covers as well. Love all the various figures representing different songs on the Live Evil cover. Always thought that was cool. Dehumanizer as an album is an easy 9/10 for me. Love how heavy the songs are and Dio sounds great as always. Killer album cover with the robot. It's a shame the reunion with Dio didn't last longer. The 3 studio albums are so consistently great it's almost like you can't be contrarian by picking any one of them as your favorite imo. I think picking Live Evil would be the most contrarian but it's a live album. I get it though, Dehumanizer is contrarian as the popular choice would be Heaven And Hell. Great video! 🤘
Yes! I agree about that assessment, i totally dont think Dehumanizer is blown out of the water by the first two, and I totally get that the live album gets some hate. Thanks!
Loudness 1992 S/T album was a real heavy album for traditional metal at the time.
I was lucky enough to see Sabbath on this tour. Love the RJD stuff. My favorite is Mob Rules. Heaven and Hell second and Dehumanizer third. Love them all.
I've been a fan of "Dehumanizer" since I first heard it back in the 90's when it came out. Is it the best Sabbath album? Not really. But it is an amazing album that is crushingly heavy in its own right, and it's seriously underrated. I can't tell you how many times I've been in the mood for some Black Sabbath and dove straight for that album.
This record passed me by at the time so I came to it in the mid 00's. I think it's really good record and is very consistent and rewards on listens. I still prefer HAH and MB but it can take it's place along side those quite happily.
Sorry, I had to shut this off when she said Tony Iommi can't play fast. You seriously have got to be kidding me. That's not a difference of opinion, that's ignorance of the entire history of metal guitar.
I absolutely love the album, but I might be a little biased because I enjoy 99% of Black Sabbath’s discography.
Oh cool, what else doesn't she know!
18:55 no class comment! The father of heavy metal can't "shred" like your heartthrob Dave Mustaine because ....wait for it....he's missing two fucking finger tips!!!
I remember being so excited when hearing that Sabbath was getting back with Dio. When album came out the first disappointment was the cover art. After Heaven and Hell, Mob Rules and Live Evil's artwork this was total crap. The music itself was...eh...I was disappointed and underwhelmed. Over time I've grown to like it more but it is just not on par with Heaven and Hell/Mob Rules in my opinion.
One of the best non-Ozzy Sabbath albums. I pretty much gave up on them after The Mob Rules and then this. Time Machine even made it into Wayne's World !
thanks I agree! I had waynes world in my notes but i over looked it!
Dehumanizer was easily the best Sabbath album since Mob Rules. It however is simply not as good as H&H and Mob Rules. Mob Rules is a perfect album, my favorite of the Dio era. Heaven and Hell has a couple of weak tracks, but everything else is exceptional.
Ya i agree, Dehumanizer was probably the best since Mob rules... I used to really like Born Again and still do but I think it's gone down a bit in my estimation and Dehuamanizer has gone up a bit (over the years)
The guitar solo in computer God is one of his best sounds mean tony is one of the best when it comes to mean solos In for the kill another example mean awesome solo
I have 'Dehumanizer' on CD, but I haven't fully appreciated it yet. However, "Letters from Earth" is my favorite song from the album!
Ya Letters is incredible, so many good moments in just that one song!
@@thecontrarians2438 Yeah, I can't explain it. I just love how doomy it sounds!
I have to agree about dehumanizer. To me it is THE best Dio sabbath album, I is actually probably my favorite sabbth Dio song of all.
Thanks! Great minds think alike!
I think Dehumanizer is better than Heaven And Hell. Both top 10 records of all time though.
I'm with Marco here, and not just because our first names are so similar 😀 I've discussed this point privately before with Popoff, but in 2022, Heaven & Hell and Mob Rules sound a bit quaint. I'm older than Dawn and Marco, born in 1970, I've lived with Sabbath and Dio since 1981, when I first started listening to music for adults. In 1992, Dehumanizer wasn't what the Sabbath fans were looking for. But in the years since, there's been a deluge of Death and Black Metal. What qualifies as heavy music has gotten heavier and heavier, while production has gotten more basic and pro-tooled. These days, I listen mostly to underground Black Metal, and so now, 30 years on, Dehumanizer sounds great, and so does its follow-up, Strange Highways (and the predecessor, Lock Up the Wolves, I'm with you on those, Marco) . But to someone who doesn't have a background in extreme Metal, Dehumaizer sounds unnecessarily harsh, and lacking compared to the previous Dio Sabbath albums (Holy Diver is a bit quaint compared to Strange Highways in the same way). For me, it's all good, but I definitely don't see the less-regarded albums as actually lesser.
Yes! Great you have you in my corner Marc! Great Marc's think alike! I'm not a big black or death metal aficionado, though i did go to the blackest of the black tour cant remember what year, but I certainly agree the album holds up really well, to get all three dio sabbath albums at once, i definitely paid more attention to the first two, but ive grown much more attached to he latter now a days. Thanks for the comment.
I can't disagree with Dawn more; I love this album. It's only second to Heaven And Hell for me, regarding the 4 Dio-Sabbath albums (I count The Devil You Know).
I am exactly the same age as she, but I believe people say it's heavy by comparison to the previous BS offerings from the 80s. I am a Death Metal fan through and through and nothing could be heavier than the early Entombed, Carcass, Immolation or Incantation.
I won’t give it my favorite album…but it was the best album in 92
I'm not a big Dio fan, but Dehumanizer is my favorite Dio era Sabbath album.
Heaven & Hell, it has my favorite Dio era songs on it but Mob Rules is good too. I have Dehumanizer and I really like a few songs on it, I guess it will just never stack up to the two earlier Ronnie albums for me. The song writing wasn't awful by any means, just not an album where I enjoy every song like the first two. Good video!
Too Late is the best song off Dehumanizer. Dehumanizer is my least favorite album by Dio Sabbath including The Devil You Know. I like the less sludgy Sabbath w/Dio & it was a mistake to limit Dio's writing style.
If i have one criticism of Dehumanizer, it’s the mix/master. The overall sound is kind of thin, and i think it lacks that crazy, deep bottom end Sabbath has pioneered throughout the decades.
But with this Sid, Dehumanizer is an incredible album.
To me, martin birch produced sabbath sounds the best, but I like dehumanizer better than mob rules, heaven and hell is just killer
Falling Off The Edge Of The World is my fav Sabbath song but Heaven And Hell is the best album with Dio.
Dead set!! 'Falling' is so heavy, such a good riff. And Dio in full flight...
Geezer wrote the lyrics to Computer God. Also, Master of Insanity is a track from the GZR band.
Jimi Bell could be the writer of Computer God with Carl Sentence on vocals for the Geezer Butler Band. The lyrics and some of the guitar parts were changed by Ronnie and Tony for the Dehumanizer album. I don't think Geezer will ever tell the story of that song 🤔 .
@@richardhincemon I hope he does in his new book🤞
There are some good tracks on Dehumanizer, but I find the sound very cold and distant, and it drags some of the songs down. I'd say that the 3 things that drag it to the bottom of my BS albums ranking are the production and the art cover, but also a certain lack of genius from an otherwise perfect line-up. I'd say that Dehumanizer is one of my least fav Sabbath album along Forbidden, 13 and Eternal Idol. Now, bare in mind that i enjoy EVERY Sabbath album and that I don't think there's a bad BS record. But when put against Master of Reality, Sabotage, Paranoid , Heaven and Hell or Born Again, Dehumanizer fails to deliver the goods imho. Cheers!
Dehumanizer is the best dio sabbath record and your guest with all due respect should never be allowed on the show again because she doesn’t know what the hell she is talking about.
The hating Slayer and Anthrax part is what did it for me. And there is nothing "poppy" on Dehumanizer.
@@Skycladatdusk78 the megadeth fan girl stuff got annoying
And she's scared of death metal and thinks normal people can't like it, wtf.
@@neuroisis85 shit she’d be terrified of my technical death metal collection
@@quantumparadox2518 Same here, I'm a big tech Death fan too. I remember when Dehumanizer came out Dio, Iommi and Geezer all said they wanted it to be heavier and darker than their past albums and boy did they ever succeed on Dehumanizer. Glad I saw that tour in the summer of 92!
The last really good through and through Black Sabbath album imo. To me the last Sabbath Classic was Mob Rules.
Sure, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath had a heavy riff. Id definitely agree that Dehumanizer is the most aggressive Black Sabbath album overall.
Marco said that Sins of the Father is where the album starts getting weak…LOL! That’s my favorite song of the Album,, heavy AF. TV Crimes I always skip. The same for Time Machine. I think Wayne’s World ruined that song for me. Master of Insanity is a bit boring to me. The rest of the album is heavy AF. It doesn’t have to be death or thrash metal to be heavy.
I caught Sabbath on this tour with Exodus as the opening band. One of my favorite concerts to date…
I think that one is Martin Popoff's favorite song on the album, I dont dislike it, really i had to nitpick something because i like the whole album, when there's albums i like i usually rotate between which are my favorite songs and ya I'll probably come around on Sins of the Father the same way I came around to the whole album after years of preferring Mob Rules and Heaven and Hell, Thanks for the comment!
Certainly the best Dio Sabbath album. Also the heaviest Sabbath album period. Not the best Sabbath on the whole, but it's up there with the first 6 for me.
That riff is from Zeppelin, right album, but it's not "Trampled Under Foot", can't remember which song at the moment...
The Wanton Song.
@@jimmycampbell78 Yup!
Who cares about the level of heaviness on it? The songs are excellent from beginning to end!
Yes yes yes!
Master of Reality is a much better album than Paranoid, strange Paranoid was ranked no 1, sure it was iconic but not their best. Sabotage & Sabbath Bloody Sabbath also better than Paranoid.
I do agree with her that after all sucks. I hate the chorus very very much
Mob Rules is the best.
I love the album. Lots of great songs. Her comments on Computer God made no sense to me. There's nothing that stands out as off or wrong on the guitars. She makes it sound like he failed to "shred" or something. Just weird.
I only say this don't play like the other guys your Tony iomi you invented music play your way you're better for it
Agreed 👍
I hate to say this, but Dehumanizer is my least favorite Black Sabbath album. I have just never gotten into it and could never understand it. I want to like it and have tried many times to listen to it and find something to make me change my mind but it hasn’t happened yet.
wow! I definitely prefer the Ozzy era, but I also love the Dio era, and I love Born Again, I might not put Dehumanizer above any of my favorite Ozzy albums but I definitely like it best of the post Ozzy/Dio/Ian Gillan era, and i like the Tony Martin albums
@@thecontrarians2438 The Ozzy era is where I started and I will always love those albums the best, but I also really like the initial Dio era and even Born Again, which I think is their silliest album! Seventh Star was okay but no songs from it would never make a Sabbath best of compilation of mine. Not too big on the Tony Martin albums, especially Tyr and Cross Purposes, though I think the Eternal Idol is quite good and like some of the songs on the second half of Headless Cross. And I seem to be one of the few that actually likes Forbidden! I really do hope that I will change my mind about Dehumanizer.
Agreed. Awful record.
Badmotorfinger is heavier than Dehumanizer.
Pffftt
Hi, I like all the dio bs albums and the devil you know. Dehumanizer is a great album. Massive comeback musically after mob rules they got worse with every album and hit the bottom with tyr. Heaven and hell is probably my favourite one but dehumanizer is almost as good and so heavy. Could have used a bit more production but sound pretty good.
Thanks Ian! I like the Martin albums but I definitely would put this as my number 1 post Ozzy/Dio/Ian Gillan and I might even put it above Born again at this point.. but I have a lot of nostalgic love for Born Again... the Dio albums are almost tied for me
@@thecontrarians2438 yes I feel the same about born again. I really like it but it is not quite as good as mob rules. Would be good to get a remix, that won’t be for a long time as the masters were just located. Put up with the strange and thin mix haha. I like some of the Martin era albums but not all. I believe dio and birch had massive influence. Listen to long live rock n roll, it sound so similar to heaven and hell. Even the guitaring is similar on both albums.
There's a bloke on RUclips that ranks albums, he has TYR at #3, ahead of every Ozzy era album! 😱
@@husq48 haha, that’s an amazing ranking. The Martin era is wildly inconsistent. I like headless cross and cross purposes. My top 10 black sabbath would be ozzy, Dio and Gillan albums.
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